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- 0:00OK, good morning. We are continuing Simon Kuftzadi
- 0:04Hokasnida. We are topic of Samim Kasim and
- 0:10we are starting si EF khet. OK, Kuftzadi si EF khet Emain
- 0:16the Ketem, the Malcolm Ekhad K Greece, the ode, right?
- 0:21We didn't do this right. If there is you don't have one.
- 0:25The whole the whole spot. The stain is not in one area
- 0:30that's right large enough the Greece Oh alpha P she yay champ
- 0:35teeping harvest, smooching Zelaze, Even though you have
- 0:40many spots close together, they're not touching, but
- 0:42they're close together as a matter.
- 0:46OK, what do I mean? Even It'sar from Ishbaham, you
- 0:49know theremic Greece, even though if you would combine all
- 0:55the spots that are nearby, it would be more than a Greece.
- 1:00I'm just going to keep saying Greece.
- 1:01But even though it's Greece Oh, then we already right.
- 1:04My clock is let's say 2cm, maybe a drop less.
- 1:09Anyways, so we're saying even though it's been starive to be
- 1:12Kagreece, it is Tejora, Shanu Talin Kotipa, Vettipa Burkina,
- 1:18because since they're not touching right there, we say
- 1:22that each spot comes from a different a different louse.
- 1:27Each one. It's so there's more than one
- 1:29lice in the room and that's why it that's why it's not touching.
- 1:33So that's that's what we say Achi Habilk and Greece Veloda,
- 1:38Malcolm Echad until you have the entire until it's all in one
- 1:43spot, it's all touching. And what's ever touching is the
- 1:47size of a Greece Veloda, the Yeesh Omrim, the Hani emili
- 1:51Kishinim SU al Khaluka. Now when do we say this?
- 1:57This is a Yeesh Omrim. Now obviously I'll just point
- 1:59out, as we right now, the the halakhah is like the Yeesh
- 2:04Omrim. There are Sabias quotes, the
- 2:06beast of it who points out that you have to be careful whenever
- 2:10you read a stomm, the Yeesh Omrim.
- 2:13Sometimes the stomm is just a quote from the Gemara and it's
- 2:19not really a Mahoka Rishonim and it's the Yesh Omrim is coming is
- 2:26the Rishonim on the Gemara. So this Yesh omrim is just a
- 2:30perush on what we previously read from the Gemara.
- 2:33The first part was the Gemara. This is the rishonim.
- 2:36And so therefore everyone agrees Allah has K yesh omrim.
- 2:39In this case, it's it's not really a mahokas.
- 2:42The yesh omrim dahani Miley kishinim tsua kaluka.
- 2:44That's only the only time we say that.
- 2:49Yeah, each one individual that you they're, they're not
- 2:52touching. So you don't combine them.
- 2:54That's if you find it on a baguette.
- 2:59But if she finds it on her skin or on her leg or whatever.
- 3:04So then I mean Starfin grease the ode.
- 3:08So then if there are multiple spots, then you do combine them
- 3:14because normally we say ketam, it's not a, it's not the actual
- 3:19period and it's not, there was no Bidika Pinem.
- 3:23You'll find it on your skin. So normally we do say for that.
- 3:26So if you do a Bidikas Pinem or there's Hargasha, then even
- 3:31Amasha who have done. But if there is no Hargasha, no
- 3:34Bidikas Pinem and she sees a spot on her leg.
- 3:38So then we assume it's so then that's the din of ketem.
- 3:42So normally it's still all DNA Ketem need to be Kagrise, but
- 3:47here you could be Monstarev, individual teeping of ketamine
- 3:54that are small ones that are nearby but not touching.
- 3:57OK, so tet tet ketam. My name's Al Basara.
- 4:04Now she finds a ketam on her skin, Right?
- 4:07I was just going to point out that's what it was.
- 4:09Again, just keep in mind that nowadays, because women usually
- 4:12wear tight undergarments, changes the practical halacha a
- 4:17little bit all around. But anyway, that's just
- 4:21something to keep in mind. Tet, right?
- 4:23We're here. We're talking about the normal
- 4:25cases in Khaza where they did not wear tight undergarments.
- 4:28Tet ketem hanimsa al bisara. Now if she finds a stain on her
- 4:35on her leg shuu arukiritsua or agul or it's whether it's long
- 4:41or round oshiyu tipping, tipping or they are drops oshiya ore
- 4:47heketem aroja vireja or it's long compared to the width of
- 4:53the leg Oshiya nira kiyu ku nimata lamala.
- 4:59Who can I get bait? Even though it looks like it's
- 5:01coming from below upward. I know I guess the shape kilo
- 5:06it's a splash that's going upwards or running upwards.
- 5:08It doesn't matter as long as it's it's The Who can I get bait
- 5:13turpa since or it's bait turpa is basically a, it's a Lushan
- 5:19ganai for the ma klama Erva. That's what it says here.
- 5:23Parish kanaga Tamaya. So as long as it's anywhere
- 5:28opposite that place, the Malcolm of the Arava basically down on
- 5:33the inside of her legs versus the outside of her legs anywhere
- 5:36there, then we say Tamaya. She's going to be Tamaya.
- 5:40The Ain Omrim Ilunatov minaguf Gloria Kaza.
- 5:45We don't say, well, if it came from her, it wouldn't look like
- 5:48this. In other words, any shape we, if
- 5:52it's anywhere, can I get the the Malcolm and the inside the inner
- 5:58part of her legs as opposed to the very outside.
- 6:01Then we say it's we assume it's from it's from her.
- 6:06And therefore if it's Greece. Oh, so then it's she's too male.
- 6:11OK, let's do good khat to mention neemsa al dovar Sheena
- 6:18macabre tuma. OK, so we learned one major kula
- 6:22from Khazal on the Denek Tamim major category is it needs to be
- 6:26its minimum sheer size. OK, what about here's another
- 6:32one. It has to be in order for the
- 6:35woman to be macabre tuma. Sorry, in order for a woman to
- 6:39be tamaya from the blood, the item that she finds the ketum on
- 6:45the halacha is this right? This dinder abundant of ketum.
- 6:48It must be that it's macabo tuma.
- 6:51It has to be an item that's really the macabo tuma.
- 6:54OK, if it's something that cannot be macabo tuma, they were
- 6:57lo gazru Allah. OK, so that's alaka and and and
- 7:05Torah teslami. We just points out there are
- 7:08some that we're not going to go through all Hilfas taros over
- 7:13here regarding what's macabre tuma or not, That's for another
- 7:17time. But Torres Shalom interesting
- 7:19points out there are different levels of the calium or begadium
- 7:25that can be macabre tuma. For example, there are some
- 7:28things that are macabre tuma for Nagayim but not for other stuff.
- 7:31So therefore he just points out tosvos and the rush point out as
- 7:36long as it's good enough to be macabre tuma for Nagayim, so
- 7:40then it is good enough to be macabre tuma to reach this
- 7:44category to be ketam and to make her tamea.
- 7:48OK, so this doesn't apply to Vidika.
- 7:54Again, ketam is when you find the blood on the skin or her
- 7:59garments when you do a Vidika. So inserting A tampon that's
- 8:04also same category, we assume it's Dom temea de Arisa.
- 8:09So it has nothing to do with the din of Ketan in order to if a
- 8:13woman has bleeding with Hargasha, she's she's temea de
- 8:18Arisa. Even if there's no for one tiny
- 8:22drop doesn't there's no minimum. It doesn't matter if it's lands
- 8:25on something that's macabre tuma.
- 8:28And if you do a Bedika, then we assume you found a drop of blood
- 8:32with Hargasha, but you didn't feel the Hargasha and the the
- 8:36tuma vadai tuma Suffolk. But we treat it like vadai
- 8:39tumaya even though even if it's not macabo tum, because for
- 8:44hargasha and for dini daraisa, this this whole halakh has
- 8:48nothing to do with the dim daraisa.
- 8:51So in order for a woman to become a nidar as Zava, all you
- 8:55know during the year has nothing to do with Kagreece had nothing
- 9:01to do with macabre tuma, nothing to do with colored clothing that
- 9:05we're going to see going on. OK, now llama logo, why didn't
- 9:10they work goes there on something that's not macabre
- 9:14tuma. Otherwise, they built into this
- 9:17to this dinder Abanan of Ketchum, but they said they're
- 9:20going to retract and minimize the Dinder abanan and so they're
- 9:25going to leave out anything that is not macabre tuma.
- 9:29So a couple reasons are given most simple to to put to
- 9:35understand or to explain rather is from the Rashbab is he says
- 9:39it wasn't it wasn't common a little Matsui anything that's
- 9:44not common. Usually we're talking about a
- 9:48regular garment that you find it on and therefore it's and it's
- 9:52macabre tuma. So on these things they were
- 9:54goes there, but on it wasn't so common that she would find the
- 10:00ketamine something that's not the cobble tuma.
- 10:03And so therefore, lo Gaza, right?
- 10:05Many time we have a lo plague, lo shriya, lo matzo, whatever it
- 10:09is there, no one goes there. That's one of the calling.
- 10:12When they made their Xeras, right, they chose 1-2 and one,
- 10:15not 2. So obviously there's probably
- 10:19another feature that's 'cause all we're looking, we're going
- 10:23to see this by clothing, colored clothing that sometimes they
- 10:28didn't want to overburden claw Israel.
- 10:31And so therefore they looked for certain times where they can
- 10:33make it. Not always to me, what doesn't,
- 10:36what doesn't always apply. OK, Tosos and Ron, so they're
- 10:41similar, slightly different wording, but basically along the
- 10:44same lines. They both say because the why
- 10:48were Khazal Gozar Khatami in general, We know that the woman
- 10:52who's Anita or Zava, she sees bleeding Hagasha.
- 10:56We have to choose Tamaya and then you can that's that's the
- 10:58din, Tara. Why did they add this extra din
- 11:01of you find blood? There is for sure no Hagasha.
- 11:05So for sure there's no there's no worry of her being Tamaya
- 11:10whatsoever. There's no Kashash.
- 11:11What's the Siagua Tara, what's going on?
- 11:14They were a mahmir for the sake of taharas.
- 11:16That's all. We're very Mahmir.
- 11:18That's why we wash hands all year long for eating bread for
- 11:21the Kohanim when they get back to the to worrying about Juma
- 11:26Taras. So then anyways, back then they
- 11:29were but anyways, the whole we know there's a lot of DNA
- 11:33Darabana that has to do with Tumantara.
- 11:37So thank you. So the only time try again.
- 11:41So the only time that we were so the whole reason to make the din
- 11:45of Ketan is because of Kaleem and Taras.
- 11:51So therefore, if it's landing on an object that's anyway not
- 11:56Macabo tuma and anyway it's stay it's gonna stay taller.
- 12:00Why are we gonna bother the women or the the the people and
- 12:03make them make her tummy? Because the main issue was for
- 12:07the Kaleem, not for her. So if the main issue is gonna
- 12:10stay to her, then we're not gonna be goes there and make her
- 12:13to male. OK, let's go on Kate sod.
- 12:19So the Gemara gives an example of what's not Makabel tuma vadka
- 12:24karka olam. So she sees blood on the ground
- 12:30underneath her right where she was sitting.
- 12:32She was sitting on the floor. Whatever, it's on the floor.
- 12:35Oh, beta kise. She ain't no makabel tuma.
- 12:39I'm not sure exactly what he's referring to, but our toilets,
- 12:42these are, yeah, some kind of, I don't know exactly what they
- 12:46look like, but some kind of of a toilet in those days that was on
- 12:49the floor or just a hole in the ground.
- 12:52Maybe they had some kind of, I don't know what, I don't know
- 12:55what they put around the hole. But anyways, Lemisa for our
- 12:59toilets are also considered carca olam and it's not macabel
- 13:04tuma, OK, Even if you were to say it, a chair could be macabel
- 13:08tuma. Again, depends on what material
- 13:11it's made out of, but it's that's a whole nother.
- 13:14So yeah, not all materials are macabo tuma.
- 13:18But if it's a chair, sorry, if it's a beta kiss, it's attached
- 13:21to the ground. That's Karka Olam and therefore
- 13:24it's for sure not Macabo tuma. So it's she's remains Tahira.
- 13:29Oh, cold of our Shana Macabo tuma.
- 13:32Anything that's not macabo tuma, right, cannot be macabo tuma,
- 13:37the yashva Allah. And she sits on it and now
- 13:40there's a little drop of blood the size of the grease.
- 13:45Otherwise it wouldn't even be an issue.
- 13:46But hey, ketem shinimza al begit savua tahara Also on a any
- 13:55garment that has color, that's a colored garment and therefore
- 14:00it's tahara. All right, if it's OK, vilifita
- 14:04tilba sha isha big dates sivanim kadela hatsila mea katami.
- 14:09So therefore it is wise for women when shistahara to wear
- 14:16colored clothing, don't wear white so that if there's any
- 14:19blood there or you don't have to worry about katami, right?
- 14:24If it's the regular flow, obviously that's another story.
- 14:26But anytime you just see some spotting, even if it's a a big
- 14:32enough, a bigger than a grease again, right, We discussed
- 14:34what's the maximum? I don't know, but basically, but
- 14:38as long as it's OK. So then you don't it helps a lot
- 14:41to save problems of tummy. Also, if you're not sure, maybe
- 14:45it's paint, maybe it's this, maybe it was blood.
- 14:47You're not sure where it came from something else.
- 14:50You don't have to worry about it if she's wearing colored
- 14:53clothing. So here.
- 14:55So I'll just mention why is colored clothing.
- 14:58I think we're gonna, I'm not sure I'll mention it now 'cause
- 15:01we just mentioned if it's colored clothing, then it
- 15:06doesn't matter how big it is. But like I mentioned, there is
- 15:10it's discussed somewhat in the post game and I guess different
- 15:14masaras and how to pass on what to do Lamisa because if you have
- 15:18a big flow of bleeding, we assume that that's even if it's
- 15:25not a din of ketam, we assume it's Tamia Doraisa at some
- 15:28point. That's the.
- 15:30So where do you go? I saw somewhere say it as
- 15:34minimal as the size of three Grecian, but that could be an
- 15:37absolute Dasyaki. I'm just throwing that out
- 15:41there. I don't know what's what point
- 15:43do you say? It's enough blood that you say,
- 15:45OK, now it's not an issue of ketam anymore.
- 15:48Now it turns into the realm of Damnida Doraisa.
- 15:52So that's, I don't know, it's beyond me, but that's right.
- 15:58But any time it's colored or anal macabo tuma, it doesn't
- 16:02matter even if it's more than a grease and if it's less than a
- 16:06grease, all this, then if it's on white or it is macabo tuma
- 16:10also it's going to be not a problem of ketam.
- 16:12Again, we're going to see some exceptions to the rule.
- 16:16Let me just mention when it comes to colored clothing, I
- 16:18don't know if it's in the Shah Khanarak.
- 16:20So I'll just say that Gumara points out and neither Samhala
- 16:23happens to be a discussion over there.
- 16:25If there goes there by big date Sivanian by colored clothing.
- 16:29But the halakhah is clear. Anytime it's colored, then she's
- 16:33not it's she stays Tahara. It could be macabre tuma, but
- 16:38since it's colored clothing, then she's not.
- 16:41And the the Gemara says basically the wording is more or
- 16:44less to make it Lahaka for to make it easier for Kaliuso.
- 16:49Again, it looks like they were looking for ways not to be goes
- 16:51there all the time. So we're going to get there.
- 16:55And Rashi adds again, I don't know if I think he's coming to
- 17:00explain the Gemara, but he says if it's if it's one of the, the
- 17:06the reason why they were also not goes there by color clothing
- 17:09is because it's too hard to know if it has the, the color of
- 17:12blood or not. Especially in those days, they
- 17:15used to make distinctions between red and red and they
- 17:18would say, oh, you know, you can have 10 different Reds and
- 17:20they'd say this one is Tower and this one is Tamme.
- 17:22Nowadays we all say it red is red and we don't know and
- 17:25everything's Tamaya. Make sure it's a man.
- 17:30But anyways, because once it's colored, it changes the red or
- 17:33it changes the color and therefore and it's hard to know
- 17:36what's red. So therefore they or may go for
- 17:38that reason. I will just point out on very
- 17:43light colored clothing, that's a Machlocus.
- 17:47You know if very light colored is considered white for the
- 17:52Salaha or not, if there could be ketam or not, And then how you
- 17:56define what's very light? I'll just that's that.
- 17:58And I'll just also point out something interesting.
- 18:00Let's say you have a 2 sided baguette.
- 18:02One side is white and one side is colored right or like 2 the
- 18:06Godzilla sewn together, 2 fabrics sewn together.
- 18:09So even though it enters on one side, the colored side and then
- 18:14on the other side, you see a clear stain on the white side.
- 18:18So Wagya and Tara Sabais mentioned Piscay Tara that it's
- 18:21considered Timaea. She is Timaea because it's
- 18:25always you look at what you see, you look at what you get.
- 18:28And when you look at it, you have to look at both sides and
- 18:31one side has the ketem and one side doesn't.
- 18:33Both sides have the ketem and the one that has and, and one of
- 18:37them is white. So because of the white side,
- 18:39even though it goes through that doesn't matter.
- 18:41We don't look at, you know, the travelling patterns, we look at
- 18:46at the item itself. Assuming that was colored on the
- 18:49other side. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:53Taken right. Taken to any other issues?
- 18:56Yeah. If it's a running colour, if
- 18:58it's if it runs and OK, what else did I want to point out
- 19:03before we move on? The shock has an interesting
- 19:09point, he says. So again, we're not going to get
- 19:12into we're going to I'm going to mention a few different
- 19:14materials, but we're not going to get into it's not going to be
- 19:17rather in a full, full share on different materials.
- 19:20But what I will point out also in the well, we'll go over some
- 19:24in the shock in Ted Zion. So he points out that I mean,
- 19:28it's it's not the shocks tradition.
- 19:31But anyways, he just points out that in even if the material is
- 19:38macabre tuma, but it's a piece of clothing that's smaller than
- 19:42three by three three what espa 3 Expos by three Expos is the
- 19:49minimum shear in general 4. Then there's different
- 19:54materials, different rules, but in general, the minimum shear is
- 19:57going to be minimum possible shear for a begged to be called
- 20:01a begged to be macabre tuma is 3 by three.
- 20:05It's about one second. And if it's smaller than three
- 20:11by three, then also even if it's white, even if it's a grease,
- 20:17even if it's one second. Yeah.
- 20:25And also it's not going to be macabre.
- 20:27It's also not going to be and it's it wouldn't the material
- 20:31would be macabre tuma, but this baguette is not macabre tuma.
- 20:34So therefore she would stay Tahara even if it's OK, even if
- 20:38it's a Maradon, what is 3 by 3? So we've we've had this before
- 20:43each at spots Amahocus if it's 2cm and the Khazanish if it's
- 20:492.5. A motion is in between, but
- 20:52closer to the khazanish. So that comes out to 6 by 6
- 20:57centimeters or 2.3 inches, 7 by 7.5 by 7.5 or 3 inches by three
- 21:05inches. It is noted that Khazanish
- 21:08generally held his opinions Khumra, but I saw someone to say
- 21:15that since Ketam's Darabanan, even the Khazanish would
- 21:19probably agree. You could go by his the the
- 21:22bigger sheer versus Rab Haimna for this Halafa and fans.
- 21:28If you always whole barrel climb now or or not.
- 21:31OK, just a couple quick things on materials that are macabre
- 21:35tuma. So most posts can point out, if
- 21:38not all plastic in general is not macabre tuma.
- 21:42There is a discussion about it, but in general, we assume
- 21:45plastic is not one of the materials in the Tara that's
- 21:48macabre tuma. Rubber cannot be a macabre tuma
- 21:52paper. Most posts can say it's not
- 21:56macabre Tuma hassam sulfur says it's not no W who that says it
- 22:00is. But again, depends how you
- 22:05define or what kind of paper you're looking at.
- 22:07There's there's paper and there's paper.
- 22:09You can have very thin paper, very thick paper, different
- 22:12materials. And you can and and it could be
- 22:16it's called disposable. Igor Smoshe writes that
- 22:21according to everybody, our toilet paper or tissue paper,
- 22:24even the no deal. But Uhuda would agree.
- 22:26It's it's not macabre tuma. It's it's too doesn't last too
- 22:32thin. It dissolves and it's and
- 22:35anyway, so it's it's not macabre tuma.
- 22:37So that's so Lomi said. We generally say paper and
- 22:40toilet paper is not macabre tuma.
- 22:45Synthetic clothing. So that's a Maclocas.
- 22:49I'll just say men. Kasitak says it is Tamay Sheva.
- 22:51Halevi says it's tahor, synthetic clothing, nylon and
- 22:58other stuff like that. This is all regarding kasan.
- 23:01If you take a synthetic cloth and do a vedico with it, you're
- 23:05gonna be the woman's gonna be Tahar, it's gonna be Tamaya.
- 23:08She's gonna be Tamaya Doraisa. That's the assumption.
- 23:11We assume Tamaya Doraisa again, Vada, Suffolk, whatever, but
- 23:14that's the assumption. Igor Moshe says it depends if
- 23:17with nylon, if it's made from vegetables, then it's then it's
- 23:22since the vegetables can be so therefore the nylon is macabo
- 23:26tuma. But if it's made from oil, it's
- 23:28tahar. I know it's different opinions
- 23:30how to deal with synthetic, maybe I'll save.
- 23:35I'm gonna let me point this out 'cause I don't know if I'm gonna
- 23:38get there. Anything.
- 23:40That's some mood Lagoev. We might have to do this
- 23:43tomorrow. Anything that's attached or like
- 23:45compresses tightly against the skin.
- 23:48That's a separate category. So under garments that that we
- 23:52wear, that's attached to the to to the to the place or pads,
- 23:56synthetic napkins, things like that.
- 23:58So that's all. It may or may not be macabre
- 24:03tuma, we're going to get there. But regardless that happens to
- 24:07be on the hocus, which we'll explain that's separate
- 24:10category. Even if it's not macabre tuma,
- 24:13it still might be a problem or it might be macabre tuma.
- 24:17Let me, I just want to point out something here.
- 24:20Yeah, this is Virginia tuma tar. It's the same thing for tubular
- 24:27skin. So there the question is by
- 24:30tubular scalene, it's the question is if, if it needs, if
- 24:36it needs, it's just actually this has nothing to do with to
- 24:38be it's very different than to be less scaling.
- 24:40There's a little overlap, but it's certainly very different
- 24:43when we go through the principles over there which we
- 24:48discussed before here. I just want to point out if a
- 24:50person, since we mentioned paper, if a person, a woman
- 24:54wipes herself with toilet paper, so and there is a blood stain,
- 25:01it's white, it's a blood stain more than a grease.
- 25:03Is that a problem? So most say we mentioned that
- 25:07it's not a macabre tumor, however, it's a Mochocus.
- 25:13Why? Because we know that blood that
- 25:17you find on your skin, it can be a ketam.
- 25:21You don't need a, you know, a body's macabre tumor too, but
- 25:23that's, that's not a clear separate, separate category.
- 25:27And so since blood that's found on one's skin can make her
- 25:32tamaya by a ketam if it's the size of a grease, So so too
- 25:36anything that's you wipe yourself with in that space or
- 25:40we're going to see if it's touch if it's tightly pressed against
- 25:44that area. So then I don't mean more tight
- 25:47than normal. Just you know, it's just it's
- 25:49it's against the body. So then it's a mahogas.
- 25:54So there that some said that can Yashi are Mahmar because we
- 25:58consider it. It's as if she found it beef
- 26:00syrup because it's like it's on your skin.
- 26:03You know, you wiped it from your skin and you wiped it and it
- 26:06started out on the skin and now it ended up on your cloth.
- 26:08It's not like you found it on the cloth.
- 26:11That's the normal den of Ketten. You find it for the first time
- 26:14on a beggar. So that's however, the kitsar
- 26:17Shah Kanara Khantara Sabayas. That's all about yesterday.
- 26:19Our Mako and Cheva de Levy and others point out that you don't
- 26:23need to look. So they say just don't look and
- 26:26then you avoid the Mahlucus and Sahara.
- 26:29So when you wipe yourself, don't look for blood.