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Americans on GLP-1s | ‘Medical News’ with Dr. Jim Keany · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 2: Building in California, but particularly in southern California, particularly in
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  Speaker 2: Los Angeles, where building is very restrictive. Now, there were
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  Speaker 2: some laws that were passed to open up the ability
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  Speaker 2: to build. For example, there was the ADU Law, which
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  Speaker 2: allows you to take a garage or build a small
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  Speaker 2: mother in law what they call it flats, which heretofore
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  Speaker 2: were was not allowed because of zoning. Well, there's a
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  Speaker 2: new state law kicking in July one, and it's going
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  Speaker 2: to force cities to allow taller apartments near rail and
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  Speaker 2: rapid bus stops, not unlocked zoning for more than a
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  Speaker 2: million homes in California. LA is a big story here
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  Speaker 2: because there are one hundred and fifty covered transit stations,
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  Speaker 2: and what LA is doing is trying to blunt that
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  Speaker 2: law by modestly up zoning fifty five single family areas
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully delaying the implementation until twenty thirty of this
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  Speaker 2: new bill. Okay, now, why is that important and why
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  Speaker 2: is that horrible for people that own homes? Well, let's
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  Speaker 2: start with a homeowner can be a home can be
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  Speaker 2: half a mile away from a transit stop, a bus station,
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  Speaker 2: or a bus stop that's covered, and that means and
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  Speaker 2: a developer can come in, buy your house next buy
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  Speaker 2: the house next door, and build a four story apartment building.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think that's going to do to your
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  Speaker 2: home value? Where Kono lives, someone can buy a house
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  Speaker 2: right next door four stories, in other words, putting in
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  Speaker 2: four new meth labs, one on each flour and there
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  Speaker 2: isn't anything he can do about it.
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  Speaker 4: I live in a blue zone in a nice area.
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  Speaker 2: That's even worse because that doesn't stop, that doesn't stop
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  Speaker 2: the building. Are you near a bus station or transit
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  Speaker 2: station within half a mile?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 3: I am okay, you are, okay?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And they just built a massive complex, hundreds and
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  Speaker 4: hundreds of units right by one of the metro stations.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. That's the whole point. And you're right there.
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  Speaker 2: So you own a property, and what do you think
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  Speaker 2: that's going to happen to property values because you have
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  Speaker 2: this enormous area.
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  Speaker 3: You live in a primarily Chinese area.
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  Speaker 4: Right, yes, predominantly Chinese.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, a lot of Chinese food, very few dogs.
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  Speaker 4: There's lots of dogs in my neighborhood.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, all right, they raise them. Okay, and you know why?
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  Speaker 4: Stop?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we raised chickens and beef. So you know
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  Speaker 3: what can I tell you? Huh?
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  Speaker 2: Usually it's Koreans, But this I'll go. I'll go beyond
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  Speaker 2: that and talk about Chinese food, which I like. How
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  Speaker 2: many Panned expresses are being built there quite a few, Okay.
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  Speaker 4: We have a pan and several Panda expresses.
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  Speaker 3: No kidding.
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  Speaker 2: And in your neighborhood, the entire concept of walking the
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  Speaker 2: dog takes on an entirely new meaning.
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  Speaker 4: Oh stop, I had.
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  Speaker 3: To go there. Come on, how could I do this
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  Speaker 3: topic without going there?
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  Speaker 4: Anyway? Building is huge, Like literally, I don't know where
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  Speaker 4: everybody parks because that's the other problem.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, crazy, you bet.
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  Speaker 2: I live in San Juela, San Juan, Capistrado, South Orange
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  Speaker 2: County and downtown San Juan. There's no parking. To begin with,
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  Speaker 2: there was a parking, not a parking structure. There was
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  Speaker 2: a parking lot right downtown. They're building a multi story
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  Speaker 2: building there and there's going to be no parking. And
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  Speaker 2: that's happening all over the place because I think the
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  Speaker 2: laws allow the building.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they have to, because if.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking building a four story building, I'm assuming you
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  Speaker 2: have to put it on top of a parking structure
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  Speaker 2: at the law. But the bottom line is the state
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  Speaker 2: has basically preempted all the zoning requirements, or most of them,
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  Speaker 2: and is moving as quickly as possible to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of not only the zoning issue, but permitting just to
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  Speaker 2: go much quicker to build, to build housing. And they
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  Speaker 2: have to. They have no choice because how in sousing
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  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. Now should they build the number of apartments
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  Speaker 2: and condos not in my neighborhood?
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  Speaker 3: They shouldn't.
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  Speaker 2: I bought my house, and if it were to I
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  Speaker 2: can't even imagine what the prices would go down. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think the value of your place is going down?
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  Speaker 2: Once this puppy is open a couple of blocks away.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know. I'm worried about it.
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  Speaker 3: You should be. You should be.
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  Speaker 2: I'm worried about my house is not anywhere near, but
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  Speaker 2: I go to San Juan all the time, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be able to park. I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: to take an uper and the driver will fall asleep
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  Speaker 2: and we'll get into a car accident and the driver
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  Speaker 2: will try to rape me. I'm conflating stories here, aren't I.
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  Speaker 3: Just a little bit?
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  Speaker 1: All?
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  Speaker 3: Right? Now?
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  Speaker 2: Retailers are going crazy returning all kinds of items.
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  Speaker 3: It's way up, way up now.
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  Speaker 2: The return policy online shopping has always been a little
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  Speaker 2: tough on retailers, and that is because people order different sizes,
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  Speaker 2: and they order different colors of the same shoe or top,
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  Speaker 2: and what they do is return the rest and that's
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  Speaker 2: sort of all built into the pricing and I poy,
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  Speaker 2: I'm at ups or Amazon returns constantly. Well, guess what's
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  Speaker 2: really really hurting retail and I mean the return rate
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  Speaker 2: has exploded.
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  Speaker 3: What do you think it is? Glp ones?
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  Speaker 2: Glp ones because people are losing so much weight so
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  Speaker 2: quickly that they're returning so much. I'm talking about you
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  Speaker 2: buy something and it arrives two weeks ago and it
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  Speaker 2: can be down one size, and that is hurting retailers
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  Speaker 2: like crazy, and it's become a real issue. And this
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  Speaker 2: interview in the Wall Street Journal talk to owners of
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  Speaker 2: primarily retail or online shopping venues, and these returns are
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  Speaker 2: the biggest profit killers for retailers.
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  Speaker 3: Number one killer right now.
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  Speaker 2: Jeans, bras, athletic where often the first items are placed.
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  Speaker 2: So cono, how often do you replace a bra that
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  Speaker 2: you've bought because you enjoy sort of cross track? Oh
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm not going to talk about your cross dressing.
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  Speaker 3: That's not fair.
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  Speaker 2: We have to keep that stuff private. So I take
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  Speaker 2: that back. Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, please ignore
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  Speaker 2: that last day. So first our jeens, bras and athletic wear,
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  Speaker 2: then come tops and dresses and Levi Strauss, Costco wholesale, Costco, wholesale,
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  Speaker 2: Walmart Man. They're all trying to figure out what is
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  Speaker 2: going on. And as you would think, the trend is
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  Speaker 2: particularly acute and large sizes, but returns for medium, large
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  Speaker 2: and extra large item jump jump the most. Interestingly enough,
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  Speaker 2: and as medications become more accessible through price cuts and
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  Speaker 2: now there's a pill version, retailers are trying to figure
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  Speaker 2: this out and they're simply taking a harder line. It's
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  Speaker 2: that simple. So the dress Outlet, co founded by a
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  Speaker 2: judas amech encouraging customers to diligently check size charts before
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  Speaker 2: ordering a dress or formal galan. Okay, you can ask them,
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  Speaker 2: but are they going to do it?
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  Speaker 3: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Here is what actually is working for her and her
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  Speaker 2: company to keep the twenty percent return rate steady, and
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  Speaker 2: it's climbing like crazy. What is she doing charging a
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  Speaker 2: restocking fee twenty percent? Now, okay, that'll slow you down,
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  Speaker 2: and that seems to be the only way to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Sixty percent of returns are items that are too big
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  Speaker 2: or they note weight loss as the cause. So it's
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  Speaker 2: gone from thirty to forty percent a year ago to
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  Speaker 2: sixty percent of the returns. That's how crazy it has
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  Speaker 2: gotten Andrea and a lot of stores. I mean, that's
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  Speaker 2: the magic of buying retail online. Actually it's online shopping,
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  Speaker 2: is that you get the returns and you don't pay
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  Speaker 2: for them. And that's exactly what happens to me. I
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  Speaker 2: am returning items now, not for me.
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  Speaker 3: Although that's not true.
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  Speaker 2: I just bought wid didn't buy it because I won't
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  Speaker 2: spend that kind of money. But Lindsay bought me a
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  Speaker 2: couple of Tommy Bahama shirts. Well, actually, Tony Bahama shirts
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  Speaker 2: at Costco. They're close, but she returned them because they
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  Speaker 2: were a size too big. I just happened to have
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  Speaker 2: lost weight. I lost ten or fifteen pounds in the
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  Speaker 2: last several months and guess what, they were too big.
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  Speaker 2: Back they go. They were returned and it seemed to
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  Speaker 2: have worked. So you're gonna start paying. You're going to
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  Speaker 2: start paying. And that's the only way these online retailing
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  Speaker 2: establishments are going to be able to keep their profits
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  Speaker 2: because without profits, you're out of business.
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  Speaker 3: As you know.
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  Speaker 2: All right, now, it is time for Jim Keeney Medical News,
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  Speaker 2: Jim being the chief medical officer for Dignity Saint Mary
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  Speaker 2: Medical Center in Long Beach. Jim, good morning, and let
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  Speaker 2: us start. Good morning. Let us start with a new product.
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  Speaker 2: The FDA has just approved a new sunscreen, which is
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  Speaker 2: what decades the last time they did that.
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  Speaker 3: So what's going on with that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is a sunscreen that's been used in
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  Speaker 1: Europe for decades. It's called bematrizinol and it's the active
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  Speaker 1: ingredient that actually it's considered a broad spectrum UV blocker,
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  Speaker 1: so it blocked both UVA, the one that causes cancer
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  Speaker 1: and wrinkles and everything else, and UVB that causes actual sunburn.
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  Speaker 1: So it's a great it's a great product as far
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  Speaker 1: as you know how well it works. It doesn't break
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  Speaker 1: down as much in sunlight, it doesn't penetrate the skin
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  Speaker 1: as well, so it's not absorbed systemically like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of these other ones. I mean a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: have been raising concerns about the fact that blood levels.
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  Speaker 1: Now that we can measure blood levels of some of
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  Speaker 1: these things that were approved thirty years ago, we're realizing
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  Speaker 1: that they're in much higher concentrations in your blood than
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  Speaker 1: it's so people have said, look, we should go back
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  Speaker 1: and look and see if these levels are safe or not.
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  Speaker 1: And meanwhile, in Europe they've been using this for decades
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  Speaker 1: and they've had no issues whatsoever. So it's probably better safety,
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  Speaker 1: you know, reviews than anything else right now.
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  Speaker 2: So, Jimmy, if it's been used in Europe successfully, why
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  Speaker 2: haven't we jumped on this because I'm assuming that the
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  Speaker 2: manufacturers would love to get into the American market.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, in the American market, we have the FDA, and
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  Speaker 1: sunscreens are approved not as cosmetics but as over the
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  Speaker 1: counter drugs, so they have to go through the over
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  Speaker 1: the counter drug process, which costs money and takes time.
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  Speaker 1: On top of that, you add to the fact that
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  Speaker 1: they've been the FDA has been backed up in that
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  Speaker 1: category for a long time, and so just lots of
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  Speaker 1: reasons that piled up that this stuff never got approved,
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  Speaker 1: and really what it took was was them to kind
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  Speaker 1: of fast track these things and say, Okay, this has
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  Speaker 1: been long enough. In Europe, we really believe that we
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  Speaker 1: can fast track this particular mecha or chemical real quickly.
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  Speaker 2: When there is a usage of decades and over millions
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  Speaker 2: of people of a particular drug that is being used
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  Speaker 2: in Europe, does the FDA look at that or do
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  Speaker 2: they want clinical trials as if they weren't even looking
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  Speaker 2: at what happens in Europe?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they do. They do look at that,
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  Speaker 1: but they also want the data presented to them by
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  Speaker 1: the man, by the chemical manufacturer to show that it
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  Speaker 1: is generally accepted as safe, and there's certain requirements for that,
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  Speaker 1: and they still need to show all that data. So
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  Speaker 1: fast tracking it, though, can reduce the amount of data
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  Speaker 1: they're expecting to see.
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  Speaker 2: And I understand that gives you an orange tint And
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  Speaker 2: we're going to market it as you two can look
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  Speaker 2: like Donald Trump. Okay, now, okay, oh sure, I would
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  Speaker 2: be wonderful as it should be, or should be wonderful
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  Speaker 2: as it should all right, moving on to a big
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  Speaker 2: topic GLP one drugs GLP ones, and I just did
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  Speaker 2: a topic on it that the online retailers are getting
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  Speaker 2: nailed because of GLP one because people are losing so
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  Speaker 2: much weight so quickly that when clothing is bought, it
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  Speaker 2: is returned because you can lose one size in two
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  Speaker 2: or three weeks. But we're hearing there's some really good
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  Speaker 2: stuff coming down the pike where GLP ones appear to
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  Speaker 2: be doing some well good things for you medically. Let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, I mean this has kind of reminded me
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  Speaker 1: of when statins first came out, and suddenly statins were
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  Speaker 1: the best thing on the planet. You know, they were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to just lower your cholesterol, but we found out
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  Speaker 1: they reduce inflammation. They reduce your risk of heart attacks
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  Speaker 1: independent of your actual cholesterol number. So people started thinking, wow,
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  Speaker 1: we should get this triple pill where you take an
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  Speaker 1: ask back. Then we thought aspron was more helpful than
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  Speaker 1: we think now and more universally helpful. So it was
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  Speaker 1: going to be a triple pill to reduce heart attacks, aspirin,
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  Speaker 1: beta blocker and statins, and they were going to make
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  Speaker 1: it over the counter so everybody could just take it.
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  Speaker 1: And we're starting to feel that way with GLPS right that.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, The news story is that at Cancer Society meeting,
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  Speaker 1: some studies were presented that said, look, this seems to
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  Speaker 1: reduce the risk of cancer, so we do think it's
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  Speaker 1: related to inflammation. It does reduce inflammation, so it may
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  Speaker 1: reduce cancer risk along those lines. But you too early
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  Speaker 1: to say, you know that everybody should be on this
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  Speaker 1: to reduce the risk of cancer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know there are benefits too.
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  Speaker 2: Well. My question about GLP one drugs or GLP drugs
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  Speaker 2: is that originally I understand it was used for diabetes,
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  Speaker 2: but you never want to overdose almost any drug. Just
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  Speaker 2: talking about some serious overdosing, overdosing diabetic medicine when you
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  Speaker 2: go to GLPS.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean, remember we talked about this this last week.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the medications are given within the same therapeutic range,
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  Speaker 1: you know for normal usage with diabetes and others, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe two times the dose, three times the dose that
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  Speaker 1: you use for diabetes. So yeah, it is. They are
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  Speaker 1: some in some cases bigger doses, but again it's usually done.
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  Speaker 1: You don't ever start people at that highest dose. To
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  Speaker 1: start them at the lower dose, tolerate, and you work
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  Speaker 1: your way up.
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  Speaker 2: I'm referring to those where there are two three times
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  Speaker 2: as much because other drugs, I think if you take
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  Speaker 2: three times as much of whatever drug is prescribed, you
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  Speaker 2: can be in big trouble. And that's not the case
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  Speaker 2: with the GOLP drugs, right, correct.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they don't have you know, like if you
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  Speaker 1: take thailand all three times the dose of Thailand, all
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  Speaker 1: that's going to eventually, you know, cause damage to your
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  Speaker 1: liver where it's process same thing for a lot of
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  Speaker 1: other drugs that are processed that way. But for whatever reason,
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  Speaker 1: you know, these are not toxic, so they don't build
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  Speaker 1: up to toxic levels like some of these other drugs.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Jim, And this is something we've talked before about.
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  Speaker 2: You've been we visited more than a few times. But
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  Speaker 2: it's getting some legs again and that's egg allergies in kids.
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  Speaker 2: And we now have some information about how to reduce
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  Speaker 2: it or avert them.
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  Speaker 3: Let's share that one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think what you might be thinking
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  Speaker 1: that is, we've done a Peanuts story before, because yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but you know we have.
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  Speaker 3: But it's basically the same kind of concept.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, same kind of concept. Yeah, you know. And you
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  Speaker 1: like to think, Okay, well, maybe this gut introduction of
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  Speaker 1: allergens across the board will lower an infence risk for
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  Speaker 1: allergic reaction, but you know, you really do have to
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  Speaker 1: look into it to know. And in the case of peanuts,
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  Speaker 1: it was like a forty percent reduction when you introduce
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  Speaker 1: peanut butter early, like it between at six months, as
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  Speaker 1: opposed to waiting till they're one or two years old
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  Speaker 1: for the old recommendations. And now the similar with eggs
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  Speaker 1: not quite as strong. It's about a ten to twenty
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  Speaker 1: percent reduction in allergy when you introduce the eggs earlier,
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  Speaker 1: like around six months. Again, typically the way you do
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  Speaker 1: that is it's got to be well cooked. You don't
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  Speaker 1: want it to be raw, you know, scrambled eggs, mashed
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  Speaker 1: up so there's no real choking hazard. And then maybe
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  Speaker 1: even putting it in a purity with known foods. You
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure you do it like early in
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  Speaker 1: the day so you can monitor the kid, right, you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to do it for the last thing and
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  Speaker 1: at night even put them to bed and nobody's monitoring them,
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  Speaker 1: and look for signs of like vomiting, hives, facial swelling,
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  Speaker 1: most type of things. And this even applies to kids
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  Speaker 1: who have already shown that they're hyper know allergic they
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  Speaker 1: have egzima, for example, babies with ezimo. We always used
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  Speaker 1: to say, oh boy, avoid these potential allergens for even longer,
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  Speaker 1: maybe until they're two or three years old. But now
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  Speaker 1: we're saying, look, we're actually seeing a bigger reduction in
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  Speaker 1: allergy among the kids with ezema when it's introduced early.
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  Speaker 1: If they do have egzema, you probably want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to your pedutrician about it first, kind of discuss how
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  Speaker 1: you're going to go about it, how you're going to
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  Speaker 1: monitor them. But even in kids with with known allergies,
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  Speaker 1: this is not a bad idea.
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  Speaker 3: Now you talk about a.
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  Speaker 2: Drop, there's no fear on the other side of anaphylactic
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  Speaker 2: shock because because the amount you're putting in is so minor,
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  Speaker 2: does that make sense exactly?
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  Speaker 1: So there weren't really seeing a significant risk of anaphalactic
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  Speaker 1: shock when you do this and so again they may
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  Speaker 1: have so antaplactic shock is the extreme of an allergic reaction,
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  Speaker 1: where your blood pressure plummets, you have your throat closes off.
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  Speaker 1: That's the type of thing that they're not seeing. They
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: are seeing some kids that still will have an allergic
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  Speaker 1: reaction to it, which is why you want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to monitor. But like I said, if you can
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  Speaker 1: reduce food allergies by even ten to twenty percent, you're
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  Speaker 1: saving people a lifetime of hassle. Right, you know, think
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  Speaker 1: every time you go to a restaurant now, the first
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  Speaker 1: thing the waiter asks you most of the time is
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  Speaker 1: do you have any food allergies?
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  Speaker 2: That's actually not true. Most of the waiters ask me
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: do you have any money? Because they want to know
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  Speaker 2: if I could pay for dinner? Right, yeah, exactly, all right,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: one quick one, and this one is always confusing. You
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't have more than one glass of wine. Two glasses
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  Speaker 2: of wine. You can go five glasses of wine. No,
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't have any wine. You should get roaring, falling
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: down drunk, and that's healthier for you.
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  Speaker 3: So we have a new one of these, right.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's a new government study that they
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: tried to It seems like they tried to bury because
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the study grew to release it independently, the government didn't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: want to release it. So but this, this is the problem. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: long ago, we had the French paradox. Right, they have
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of high saturated fat foods, but they don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: have as much heart disease. So we were like scratching
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: our head, what's what's the difference? Oh, I know what
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: it is. They drink red wine daily regularly. That must
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: be it. And that got into the water here. As
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: far as everybody, they love that idea, right, because why
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: not a medical intervention that finally we all can enjoy.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It turns out that that really hasn't borne out as
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: true over the last you know, decades. The chemical they
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: were looking at was reverse atrol. Even when they put
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: it in high concentrated supplements, it doesn't really seem to
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: reduce heart heart disease, cardiovascular disease. It does, it's an antioxidant,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: a very strong antioxidant, but it just doesn't seem to
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: do what everybody thought it was going to do. So
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: really we don't have a reason to erect commend the
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: red wine anymore. And that was really the only alcohol
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: we were recommending to say, hey, maybe this reduces your
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: risk of heart disease. Alcohol itself, we know, increases the
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: risk of cancer, it increases the risk of heart attack
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and stroke. And it really is it's a brain toxin,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: a neurotoxin, it's a heart tox and it makes your
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: heart so it doesn't pump as hard. So everything about
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: alcohol is really not good for you. It's a social lubricant.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And the numbers are small, right, so we're talking. You know,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: if you have a one percent chance of having a
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: heart attack and alcohol increases it by twenty percent, you
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: now have a one point two percent chance of having
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: a heart attack. So it's something you have to judge
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: for yourself essentially. But don't try and tell yourself that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it's making you healthier. It's that it's a risk benefit ratio.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: All Right. If I drink a little alcohol, I have
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a little more fun in life. Right. If I occasionally
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: have a few glass of wine with dinner, I enjoy
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the whole dinner much better. That's the formula you're weighing out,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: not not that it's making you healthier.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, Jim, looking forward to having lunch with you in
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: the near future.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: As we do.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Jim and I have lunch, and Jim, as he talks
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: about fatty foods, he orders brisket with extra fat because
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: you can get away with it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Jim, take care. We'll talk to you again next Wednesday.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Take care.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: All right, We're done, guys. The Wednesday show is done.
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: We're back again tomorrow. Heather is here for the next
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, while Amy is gone. Michelle is here
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: till the end of the week. Neil comes back on Monday,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: and Ann is gone also until Monday.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Right, you get that right?
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: No, I got it right.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, finally I get a little confused. I get a
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: lot confused. Thank you very much, Ash Lindsay nodding and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: going damn straight. Okay, guys, we're gonna we back. We
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: back again tomorrow. Gary and Shannon up next. This is
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