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Hour 3: Where to spend your EBT benefits. · The Mark Simone Show

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Speaker 1: Now, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
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Speaker 2: Filling in for Mark, here's Ken Rosado. So nice to
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Speaker 2: be with you. Happy Labor Day weekend. If you're taking
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Speaker 2: it early, a lot of folks are doing that. We
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Speaker 2: looked at a AAA study earlier. We talked about it
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Speaker 2: in the 9 o'clock hour. Apparently, a good chunk of
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Speaker 2: people who are heading out of town have either already
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Speaker 2: left or they're in the process of leaving right now.
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Speaker 2: So that was the suggestion, was that you leave by
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Speaker 2: 11 a.m. Now it's 11.06, so it's a little late.
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Speaker 2: If you haven't left yet, you should probably wait until
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Speaker 2: about 2 or 3 in the afternoon, depending on where
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Speaker 2: you're headed. And if you haven't left by then, by
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Speaker 2: like 5 o'clock, it's going to be a nightmare. I
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Speaker 2: think a lot of folks head out. When I worked
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Speaker 2: at Channel 7 for 20 years there, for those who
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Speaker 2: may remember, I did the morning show and the noon show.
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Speaker 2: We used to have our traffic people on and we
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Speaker 2: would talk about how year after year, Labor Day getaway
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Speaker 2: started earlier and earlier. So it started with Fridays at
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Speaker 2: 5 p.m., then Fridays at noon, then Thursdays at 5 p.m.
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Speaker 2: Now it's Thursday midday when it kind of starts. So
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Speaker 2: this is kind of the rush is on right now.
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Speaker 2: I know that when last year when I left, I
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Speaker 2: was in this day last year. And when I left
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Speaker 2: to head back to New Jersey, I want to say
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Speaker 2: it took me two hours to get off of Manhattan Island.
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Speaker 2: Like every New Jersey escape at 1230 in the afternoon
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Speaker 2: was just bumper to bumper. You couldn't get out. It was,
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Speaker 2: I think the approach to the Lincoln tunnel was backed
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Speaker 2: up for seven or eight blocks. Kind of like the
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Speaker 2: worst of the holiday time afternoon drive escape that that's
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Speaker 2: what it looked like at 12 o'clock or 1230 in
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Speaker 2: the afternoon. Anyway, we'd love to know what you have
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Speaker 2: to say about it.
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Speaker 3: 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710.
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Speaker 2: 0710. If you're just hearing the voice, you're saying, who
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Speaker 2: is that? Ken Rosato used to be with Channel 7
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Speaker 2: for 20 years. I was with Channel 5 before that
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Speaker 2: and even Channel 55 before that. These days, I host
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Speaker 2: get calls from expats who've left New Jersey and live overseas,
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Speaker 2: and they call us in the morning so they could
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Speaker 2: keep up with New Jersey news. But we, I have
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Speaker 2: a lot of fun. I get to do the show
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Speaker 2: from my home in a studio in the house. And
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Speaker 2: that's always great. The commute being going down a flight
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Speaker 2: of stairs after 25 years of schlepping into Manhattan every
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Speaker 2: day from Jersey. It is certainly nice having that alternate commute,
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Speaker 2: but we'd love to know from, from you, what you
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Speaker 2: have to say about some of the topics we've talked about.
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Speaker 2: Did you hear that mayor Mamdani said, may be using
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Speaker 2: taxpayer dollars to finance a team of social media influencers.
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Speaker 2: So apparently, Mamdani has a team of 200 young people
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Speaker 2: who are targeting mainly Gen Z types, Gen Z and
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Speaker 2: Gen Alpha, using social media. So many of the people
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Speaker 2: are allegedly getting paid some big salaries with your tax dollars. Many,
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Speaker 2: they say, are just influencers that are just doing it
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Speaker 2: because they love the guy. But there are some, at least,
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Speaker 2: who are being paid a salary. Now, is this the
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Speaker 2: right thing? And what exactly are they influencing with? Or
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Speaker 2: whom are they influencing? And for what reason? Are you
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Speaker 2: convincing people to go with the democratic socialist mindset? Or
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Speaker 2: are you just telling people what's going on in the city?
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Speaker 2: If you are getting paid by the city, you are
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Speaker 2: not supposed to be political. You're only supposed to talk
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Speaker 2: about official city things. So it'd be interesting to see
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Speaker 2: if they could track anything down about this. But this
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Speaker 2: team is big. No other mayor in history has had
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Speaker 2: a social media team that large. You've traditionally had a
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Speaker 2: press secretary, and the press secretary had a team of
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Speaker 2: maybe five or ten people that they dealt with, usually
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Speaker 2: about five people. And they answered calls from all the
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Speaker 2: main media, you know, channels 245, 7911, etc., and the
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Speaker 2: radio stations and newspapers. And that was it. And then
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Speaker 2: they would post a couple of things on social media.
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Speaker 2: What Mamdani has done is he enlisted this team to
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Speaker 2: speak in different languages and go to the different websites
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Speaker 2: that these different language groups of people use. Spanish, Hindi, Urdu, Bangla,
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Speaker 2: using platforms like WhatsApp and TikTok. So you got to
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Speaker 2: think about that. And what is the purpose behind it?
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Speaker 2: You have any ideas? Let me know.
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Speaker 3: 800-321-0710. 800-321-0710.
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Speaker 2: Hey, President Trump, just to tweet the libs some more,
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Speaker 2: his face is now on the new $ 1 coin. It's
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Speaker 2: a gold colored coin, although it's not actual gold. It's
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Speaker 2: made with an amalgam of copper and nickel and some
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Speaker 2: other metals, but it looks gold. And there were 250,000
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Speaker 2: of these coins minted. You cannot put them in circulation yet,
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Speaker 2: even though they are valid legal tender. They cannot be
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Speaker 2: used until after Trump leaves office. That's under the law.
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Speaker 2: So federal law says no living or a president who's
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Speaker 2: currently holding office can have money printed with their face,
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Speaker 2: their likeness on it. So they could leave office and
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Speaker 2: then put it into circulation, have it put in circulation,
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Speaker 2: but not while they're in office. So right now, these
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Speaker 2: Trump dollars are being distributed in sealed cases. So you
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Speaker 2: could keep it on your mantel.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: and show everybody in piss off your liberal relatives when
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Speaker 2: they come for thanksgiving say look what i got and
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Speaker 2: just here like and joan from uh... massive equal say
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Speaker 2: you suck you stupid conservative that's the way that that's
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Speaker 2: a way she would speak in my mind at least
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Speaker 2: that's that's the and i'm thinking of uh... but they
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Speaker 2: are on the two hundred fifty thousand that they put
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Speaker 2: on sale at the u s mint uh... went in
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Speaker 2: seconds literally seconds And they had bags of, let me
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Speaker 2: see this, 25 coin rolls and 100 coin bags were
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Speaker 2: priced between $ 61 and $ 154. 50, according to the Mint, and
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Speaker 2: they were gone instantly. So that's interesting. So either you
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Speaker 2: have somebody who bought up as many as possible to
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Speaker 2: probably resell them for more money, which is, I'm thinking happened,
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Speaker 2: or a lot of people got wind of it and,
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Speaker 2: you know, really like the guy.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 2: According to a current poll that is out, and this
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Speaker 2: is a poll, of course, now I'm going to lose
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Speaker 2: where it is. It's the Harvard, what is it called?
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Speaker 2: The Caps Harvard Harris poll. That's what it is. It
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Speaker 2: is Mark Penn. I'm sure you've seen the pollster Mark Penn,
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Speaker 2: the white hair. Very good pollster, very accurate pollster. He
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Speaker 2: shows that for the last few days of August, Trump's
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Speaker 2: numbers are actually up. Overall support of 48%, which is good.
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Speaker 2: It's up two points from a month earlier. So, you know,
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Speaker 2: say what you want about the man. He's very polarizing.
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Speaker 2: That's for sure. But his popularity is not as low
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Speaker 2: as many people in mainstream media are making it out
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Speaker 2: to be some of the more, uh, the cheesier polls.
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Speaker 2: Mark talks about the college polls and stuff that are
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Speaker 2: not financed by serious groups. Now those polls show them
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Speaker 2: in the, in the mid thirties, but the more serious
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Speaker 2: polls have them in the mid to upper forties, especially among,
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Speaker 2: among Republicans. He's into the sixties and seventies and support
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Speaker 2: some cases higher. And, um, I think it's all going
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Speaker 2: to depend on what happens with the economy. For everybody,
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Speaker 2: their day-to-day stresses based on the money they have in
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Speaker 2: their pocket and how you treat your family and your friends,
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Speaker 2: all the mood that you're in really comes down to
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Speaker 2: can you get the bills paid and how hard are
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Speaker 2: you working and do you have to work that second
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Speaker 2: or third job to make ends meet? Or if you're
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Speaker 2: on Social Security at this point, are you able to
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Speaker 2: stretch that check for the month or are you now
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Speaker 2: finding that by the third week you're having to tap
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Speaker 2: into savings and And those are real life problems. And
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Speaker 2: that's where people will either love or hate you as
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Speaker 2: an elected official, because what you do and your influence
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Speaker 2: in office has a direct impact on real people's real lives.
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Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
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Speaker 3: 800-321-0710. 800-321-0710.
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Speaker 2: This is Ken Rosato, formerly from Channel 7 and Channel 5,
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Speaker 2: in for Mark Simone. On your Thursday, Mark is off
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Speaker 2: for a nice long weekend. We'd love to hear what
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Speaker 2: you have to say. By the way, Homeland Security Secretary
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Speaker 2: Mark Wayne Mullen, he announced on Tuesday that the White
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Speaker 2: House is now exploring legal ways to withhold money federal
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Speaker 2: funding from sanctuary cities and states that refuse to cooperate
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Speaker 2: with immigration enforcement. You got to scratch your head and say,
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Speaker 2: where were these people doing this two years ago? Should
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Speaker 2: have been doing it from day one. He was on
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Speaker 2: the Ingram angle on Tuesday night with Laura Ingram. And
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Speaker 2: he said that there've been more than 2,100 illegal migrants
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Speaker 2: arrested in New York city alone of late. And that
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Speaker 2: immigration and customs enforcement will continue deportations despite all the
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Speaker 2: sanctuary restrictions. and people like Kathy Hochul, the governor, making
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Speaker 2: it all but impossible for ICE agents to do their
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Speaker 2: jobs in a blue state like New York. You know,
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Speaker 2: the blue state governors and blue city mayors are kind
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Speaker 2: of crossing the line into impeding the actions of federal agents.
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Speaker 2: And I think they're getting pretty close to a point
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Speaker 2: where Mark Wayne Mullen can issue orders of arrest. Because
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Speaker 2: when you get to a point where you're telling local
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Speaker 2: police that, okay, You're holding a person who committed a
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Speaker 2: federal crime. You're holding them for something else, but you
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Speaker 2: can't let ICE agents near them. I'm sorry? The ICE
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Speaker 2: agents are police just like you are, and if this
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Speaker 2: person is guilty of a crime, they have a right
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Speaker 2: to arrest them. Get out of the way, Kathy, and
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Speaker 2: don't order your police to do something illegal. Remember, there
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Speaker 2: is something called the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which
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Speaker 2: superimposes its authority over local authority. And so once you
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Speaker 2: cross that line, that's when you open yourself up to
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Speaker 2: potential arrest, Kathy Hochul. Don't forget that. I would love
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Speaker 2: to see a person like, I'm not saying Kathy herself,
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Speaker 2: but a person like Kathy Hochul who pushes ICE just
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Speaker 2: a little too far to see them in an orange
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Speaker 2: jumpsuit handcuffed for breaking federal law. You do that one time,
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Speaker 2: you have one person like that under arrest, you'll never
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Speaker 2: see a local official or a state official doing it again.
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Speaker 3: Guaranteed.
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Speaker 2: Because they all talk a great game when they think
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Speaker 2: they're insulated by the state police and protected until they
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Speaker 2: get hauled off in cuffs. And believe me, the state
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Speaker 2: police are not going to do anything to protect you
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Speaker 2: from the federal police. Trust me on that one. 800-321-0710.
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Speaker 4: 800-321-0710.
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Speaker 2: The number to call. I don't know if you heard
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Speaker 2: about this Congressman Brandon Gill. Love this guy. He's a
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Speaker 2: guy who looks a little like Superman. Very young congressman
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Speaker 2: from Texas. His hair, he has this little flip of
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Speaker 2: hair in the front. Looks very much like Christopher Reeves.
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Speaker 5: Did in the original Superman.
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Speaker 2: He just unveiled a bill Thursday. Oh, this morning. I
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Speaker 2: thought it was last Thursday. No, it's this morning. That
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Speaker 2: would end snap use of money in restaurants. Let me
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Speaker 2: explain that. So if you're on food stamps. in many
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Speaker 2: states you can take your ebt card which is basically
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Speaker 2: what you know the years ago you actually got a
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Speaker 2: physical food stamp today you get a what looks like
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Speaker 2: a debit card and basically is a debit card but
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Speaker 2: it's the money that would be on food stamps years
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Speaker 2: ago loaded onto the card well you're supposed to use
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Speaker 2: that for food for yourself and your kids right and
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Speaker 2: it's meant it's not meant to feed an entire family
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Speaker 2: every meal every day it's meant to bridge the gap
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Speaker 2: uh A lot of people say, oh, you only get
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Speaker 2: this on food stamps. Well, yeah, it's not supposed to
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Speaker 2: be three meals seven days a week, 365 days a year.
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Speaker 2: It's supposed to, you know, I'm 50 bucks short. I
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Speaker 2: can't afford vegetables or fruit or I have zero meat. Okay,
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Speaker 2: and that's what it's for. And there are a lot
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Speaker 2: of good people who genuinely need that. And this is
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Speaker 2: why it breaks my heart when I see people abusing it,
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Speaker 2: because the people who need it then get the bad
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Speaker 2: rap for the people who are abusing it. Um, you
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Speaker 2: have people in California, mostly 90% of these people are
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Speaker 2: in California using their EBD cards in formal restaurants. You
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Speaker 2: heard me. So they're going out to cafe du monde
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Speaker 2: and they're sitting down and they're ordering a nice meal.
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Speaker 2: And then they put down what looks like a, just
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Speaker 2: a credit card. And that credit card is their food
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Speaker 2: stamp card. And they're paying for their expensive meal with
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Speaker 2: your tax dollars. That's where you cross the line. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 2: So now Brandon Gill is trying to pass a law
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Speaker 2: that makes it illegal to use. I guess it would
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Speaker 2: block the use of your EBT card anywhere outside of
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Speaker 2: a store that is selling food. Now, the problem with
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Speaker 2: that is there are some moms who for a quick meal,
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Speaker 2: they'll go to McDonald's and use the EBT card. I
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Speaker 2: don't have a problem with that every now and then,
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Speaker 2: as long as you're feeding your kids nutritious food the
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Speaker 2: rest of the time. You're working hard. You're trying to
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Speaker 2: take care of the kids. You need a quick solution.
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Speaker 2: You go to McDonald's with the EBT card. I get it.
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Speaker 2: That's fine. But people who use that card the wrong
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Speaker 2: way really upsets me. I don't know how you feel
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Speaker 2: about that. Apparently, again, 90% of the abuse is happening
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Speaker 2: in the state of abuse, California. I think of the
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Speaker 2: $ 575 million of EBT card use in restaurants, 475 or
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Speaker 2: more million. I read in the statistic, is in the
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Speaker 2: state of California. In New York State, it's only about three,
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Speaker 2: three and a half million. And again, by restaurant, we
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Speaker 2: don't mean necessarily a formal place. It could be just
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Speaker 2: a fast food place. So they're not spending $ 1, 000 at
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Speaker 2: Mickey D's. They're going for 20 bucks for a quick
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Speaker 2: meal for the kid. But in California, they apparently are
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Speaker 2: doing something a little more nefarious. But we'd love to
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Speaker 2: know what you have to say about it. 800-321- 0
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Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show, live from the WOR LifeVac Studios.
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Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today, here's Ken Rosato.
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Speaker 2: So nice to be with you as we kick off
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Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend a little early on a Thursday. Let's
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Speaker 2: go to our friend Vincent in Brooklyn. Good morning, Vincent.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Ken. I disagree with the crime statistics. I
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Speaker 3: believe that they were read at 10 o'clock or 11
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Speaker 3: o'clock hour. I believe that they play with those numbers.
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Speaker 3: In fact, I had a friend, he's deceased now, 50
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Speaker 3: years ago. He was a cop, and they were jiggering
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Speaker 3: the numbers 50 years ago. I don't believe that in
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Speaker 3: the least. Every day you hear about some horrible incident
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Speaker 3: like that poor woman and that man that got stabbed
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Speaker 3: in Times Square yesterday. By the way, that woman was
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Speaker 3: returning to work. She was a VP at Bank of America.
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Speaker 3: My friend's wife. 15 years ago, retired from that position.
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Speaker 3: She was the VP at the Bank of America in Manhattan.
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Speaker 3: Every day we hear these in the press or wherever
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Speaker 3: we hear these horrendous stories. And then at the top
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Speaker 3: of the hour, oh, crime is down. That is such
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Speaker 3: a crock. And as far as all these illegal aliens here,
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Speaker 3: I think Trump could do a better job. And this
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Speaker 3: is the reason why I say that. even if he
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Speaker 3: gets three or four million out of the country by
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Speaker 3: just concentrating on the hardened criminals, which I don't think
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Speaker 3: he should only do that. I believe wherever they are
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Speaker 3: in my neighborhood, they're construction sites where if you sent...
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Speaker 3: Just an ICE agent with a windbreaker that said ICE
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Speaker 3: on it with two armed ICE officers and a clipboard,
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Speaker 3: you'd see them scatter out of the building like cockroaches
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Speaker 3: because in all of the non-union construction jobs, the deal
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Speaker 3: is that anything over five families that is going up,
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Speaker 3: That's a union job. All below that, you've got a
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Speaker 3: couple of guys who may be regulars. All the rest
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Speaker 3: of them, those guys on those jobs, they go shape them.
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Speaker 3: Those jobs are all shaped. The contractors go to Sunset Park.
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Speaker 3: They go to various places. Home Depot, they pick them
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Speaker 3: up and they work for a day. And also, I
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Speaker 3: know this because... None of those people are wearing hard hats,
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Speaker 3: safety vests, safety shoes. They're also an insurance hazard.
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Speaker 2: You know what gets me, though? Can I pause you
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Speaker 2: one second?
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, please.
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Speaker 2: I know that the contractors are going to say, well,
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Speaker 2: in order to afford to do X, Y, and Z,
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Speaker 2: we'd have to pay people X, Y, and Z, etc.
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Speaker 2: But it's not like they're not charging money at these
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Speaker 2: construction sites. They're charging a prime dollar in New York City.
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Speaker 2: So I think they're full of baloney.
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Speaker 3: Ken, I heard that failed mayoral candidate one time, Curtis Sliwa,
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Speaker 3: say that if they would go in the restaurants and
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Speaker 3: arrest all the busboys and chase them out, the meals
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Speaker 3: would skyrocket. You're already paying $ 30 for a plate of
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Speaker 3: pasta with red sauce. that it's lucky if it costs
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Speaker 3: the store 50 cents to make. So if you want
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Speaker 3: to eat in those restaurants, my attitude is have them
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Speaker 3: hire Americans in there, even the busboys and the waitstaff.
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Speaker 3: If you're paying $ 30 a plate for pasta, pay $ 35. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm with you.
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Speaker 2: Let's do it legally.
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Speaker 3: Enough is enough with this.
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Speaker 2: Vincent, here, just to reinforce what you're saying, the New
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Speaker 2: York Post has a stat. course now i just lost
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Speaker 2: it i had it a second ago here the stat
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Speaker 2: says that the uh in new york city let me
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Speaker 2: get this here we go new york city sees unsettling
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Speaker 2: 206 percent jump in felony assault arrests of repeat offenders
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Speaker 2: so here of course they're promoting whatever little statistic that
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Speaker 2: they may have manipulated whatever way they did to make
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Speaker 2: it look like crime was down this summer But then
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Speaker 2: you don't see this. It was on the back page.
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Speaker 2: New York City saw a jaw-dropping 206% spike in felony
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Speaker 2: assault busts for repeat offenders over the past eight years.
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Speaker 2: According to those same new statistics, they apparently arrested 263
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Speaker 2: criminals who've been arrested three or more times. So they
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Speaker 2: keep going through the system. Mark talks about this all
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Speaker 2: the time. His police sources tell him, if you just
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Speaker 2: round it up, you know this. You rounded up the
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Speaker 2: 2,000 to 3,000 bad guys in New York City and
19:22
Speaker 2: kept them behind bars. You wouldn't have crime in this city.
19:26
Speaker 3: Exactly. And just another thing. I hear Steve Moore talk about, oh, brah,
19:31
Speaker 3: inflation's now 2%, 3%. That's a bunch of baloney because
19:35
Speaker 3: this has benefited Republican administrations as Democrats. They don't count
19:40
Speaker 3: food and fuel. And the other day I heard a
19:43
Speaker 3: real statistic where they did factor in food. and fuel,
19:49
Speaker 3: and the real inflation rate is about 30 percent. You
19:53
Speaker 3: look at the fact that hamburger meat costs double, canned
19:58
Speaker 3: goods costs double. Now, store brands of canned goods and
20:04
Speaker 3: frozen goods cost as much as the name brands used
20:08
Speaker 3: to cost. Four years ago.
20:09
Speaker 2: Try buying a steak. You see what steak costs?
20:12
Speaker 3: I'll forget about it.
20:13
Speaker 2: $ 20 for like a little, like a choice cut of whatever.
20:16
Speaker 2: I was like, are you kidding me? I wouldn't even.
20:18
Speaker 3: You're talking about two shell steaks that maybe at best
20:22
Speaker 3: come to a pound. You're looking at $ 20 easily. That's easily. Easily.
20:26
Speaker 2: Vincent, I could talk to you forever. I appreciate the
20:28
Speaker 2: fact that no matter what side politically, you are always
20:31
Speaker 2: on it and always probably one of the best read
20:34
Speaker 2: people who ever calls into radio. I appreciate you.
20:37
Speaker 3: I call it like it is. I criticize both sides.
20:40
Speaker 2: The way it should be.
20:41
Speaker 3: I look at the facts and figures. Ken, I'm a businessman.
20:46
Speaker 3: You have a great weekend. Great speaking to you again.
20:49
Speaker 3: Always a pleasure. And I'll be listening tomorrow.
20:52
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Vincent. Enjoy your Labor Day weekend,
20:54
Speaker 2: my friend. Take care. 710WOR, The Voice in New York.
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21:00
Speaker 2: to Mara in Nevada. Good morning. Are you from the
21:03
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Speaker 4: No, I'm originally from New York City, and you want
21:07
Speaker 4: to know something? My darling Vincent, I'm so happy to
21:11
Speaker 4: hear it. My darling Vincent from Brooklyn turned me on
21:14
Speaker 4: to listening to you when Mark is away.
21:17
Speaker 2: Thank you so much.
21:20
Speaker 4: Well, you know, Mark's show connected Vincent and I. He's
21:24
Speaker 4: the same age as my kids in the mid-70s. We
21:27
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21:29
Speaker 2: So wait, let me pause you. So, Mara, you're saying
21:31
Speaker 2: you're in your, what, 90s? Oh, God bless you. My
21:35
Speaker 2: dad is your age. And dad, too. Dad is sharp
21:38
Speaker 2: as a tack, too. Just like you. You sound great.
21:41
Speaker 4: Well, I feel great. Thank you, God. But, you know,
21:44
Speaker 4: my kids and Vincent were communion, first communion, same church, confirmation,
21:49
Speaker 4: junior high. Know the same people. I talk to Vincent
21:52
Speaker 4: at least once a week. I love him so much.
21:55
Speaker 4: But can he, unless you, I came to New York,
21:58
Speaker 4: we had lunch at Patsy's and we saw Mark. It
22:00
Speaker 4: was a wonderful afternoon.
22:01
Speaker 2: Mark's good people.
22:02
Speaker 4: Can I go on with this, Lacey? Do I have
22:05
Speaker 4: time to mention her?
22:06
Speaker 2: Sure, we got about 30 seconds. So go ahead. I'll just,
22:08
Speaker 2: I'll sit back.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead.
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Speaker 4: Okay, if she had killed, in her state, if she
22:13
Speaker 4: had killed the family pets, the dog, the cat, in
22:17
Speaker 4: 15 minutes that verdict would have come back guilty, murder
22:20
Speaker 4: in the first degree. She killed innocent animals. You mean
22:24
Speaker 4: these people, so rare for a mother to kill three.
22:29
Speaker 4: If I was her, you know what I would say?
22:31
Speaker 4: Kill me. Kill me. Because for the rest of my life,
22:35
Speaker 4: every hour, I'm going to go over.
22:37
Speaker 2: Well, she did try to commit suicide. She did try
22:39
Speaker 2: to commit suicide.
22:40
Speaker 4: Oh, baloney, commit suicide.
22:43
Speaker 6: It's a tough one.
22:44
Speaker 4: She knew where her jugular vein was. She missed it.
22:47
Speaker 2: Mara, you are sharp as a tack, my friend. I
22:49
Speaker 2: appreciate you listening, and thank you for calling in.
22:51
Speaker 4: We're keeping it going.
22:53
Speaker 2: You're a good lady. Good, good lady. Thank you for
22:55
Speaker 2: calling in, Mara. 710WOR, the voice of New York. Ken
22:59
Speaker 2: Rosato in for Mark. It is 1134, and here is...
23:02
Speaker 2: Who do we have? Daria, you're still doing the news.
23:04
Speaker 2: I'm thinking we shifted over yet. You stuck with me
23:06
Speaker 2: for a minute. No, and I love being stuck with you. Likewise.
23:10
Speaker 2: How are you doing, Ken?
23:11
Speaker 5: Good.
23:12
Speaker 3: Good.
23:12
Speaker 2: We'll hear tomorrow. You're back tomorrow. Yes, I am. I
23:15
Speaker 2: get to, I get to haunt your studios again tomorrow.
23:18
Speaker 2: My pleasure. Now nine till noon weekdays on seven, 10
23:23
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23:24
Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today. Here's Ken Rosato.
23:29
Speaker 2: So nice to be with you on the Thursday of
23:31
Speaker 2: Labor Day weekend, 800-321-0710, the number to call. But I
23:35
Speaker 2: don't know if you heard about this. A study by
23:37
Speaker 2: NYU Langone surveyed hundreds of older adults in New York City,
23:41
Speaker 2: showing that roughly 60% of people age 65 and older
23:45
Speaker 2: admitted they get stoned just for fun, outnumbering those who
23:50
Speaker 2: partake in the use of marijuana for chronic pain. or
23:53
Speaker 2: to relieve tension or help sleep. Now, stoner seniors have
23:57
Speaker 2: stunned cannabis shop workers because they often go in and
24:00
Speaker 2: they say, I need the strongest stuff you got. Dr.
24:03
Speaker 2: Christopher Taylor is a mental health expert who heads up
24:06
Speaker 2: the Taylor Counseling Group. It's based in Texas, and he's
24:09
Speaker 2: here to talk about stoner seniors and more. Good morning, Dr. Taylor.
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Speaker 5: Good morning, guys. Thanks for having me.
24:15
Speaker 2: Well, it's great to have you on. This is Ken Rosato,
24:17
Speaker 2: and just for the record, for Mark Simone, he would
24:19
Speaker 2: normally be here, but I know he would have wanted
24:21
Speaker 2: to talk to you about this, too. So for years,
24:23
Speaker 2: people have claimed that marijuana was innocuous, that it wasn't harmful,
24:27
Speaker 2: it wasn't addictive. But we're learning that especially with the
24:29
Speaker 2: new strong stuff today, that's not the case, is it?
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Speaker 5: Well, that's true. Yeah, it can be addictive if you're
24:35
Speaker 5: doing it regularly.
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Speaker 7: Daily use, which we now see 17.7 million Americans are
24:41
Speaker 7: saying they're using marijuana daily or near daily.
24:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it can be. I mean, it can be
24:45
Speaker 2: used properly for medicinal purposes, correct?
24:49
Speaker 5: That's correct, yes.
24:50
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what's going on in New York? Is it
24:52
Speaker 2: just the older folks in New York have decided they
24:55
Speaker 2: were just going to go hog wild with it, or
24:57
Speaker 2: what's happening?
24:58
Speaker 5: Well, you know, I think it's legal now.
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Speaker 7: And so if you're older, you're an adult, you kind
25:03
Speaker 7: of have your life together and you're just like, or
25:05
Speaker 7: you're retired and you just want to get high every day,
25:07
Speaker 7: I guess that's probably what's going on.
25:09
Speaker 2: But when it gets to that point, when you're getting
25:12
Speaker 2: high every day, I mean, it's kind of like, you know,
25:14
Speaker 2: 20 years ago would have been the two martinis every
25:16
Speaker 2: day kind of a deal. When it gets to be
25:18
Speaker 2: a daily thing, that's when it becomes a problem, isn't it?
25:23
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. So what we want to watch out
25:25
Speaker 5: for is.
25:27
Speaker 7: Can you stop for four weeks without having urges or
25:30
Speaker 7: cravings or something like that?
25:32
Speaker 5: Then you're fine.
25:33
Speaker 7: But if you get to a point where you're using
25:35
Speaker 7: it every day, addiction is very possible.
25:39
Speaker 2: And now, just so that everybody knows, you're a doctor
25:42
Speaker 2: of counseling, correct? A PhD of counseling?
25:44
Speaker 5: That's right.
25:45
Speaker 2: So I'm sure you see a lot of people who
25:47
Speaker 2: have challenges and addictions like this in your practice. So
25:51
Speaker 2: when you see, say, or read a study like this
25:54
Speaker 2: from NYU Langone, that 60% of people age 65 and
25:57
Speaker 2: older are doing this on a regular basis and saying
26:01
Speaker 2: it is strictly for fun, what is the draw? Is
26:06
Speaker 2: it because the cannabis shops are everywhere in New York now,
26:09
Speaker 2: or they just decided, hey, what the heck, I got
26:11
Speaker 2: disposable income?
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Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe both, I think.
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Speaker 7: If it's legal where you are, then the price has
26:17
Speaker 7: gone down a lot and it's very accessible.
26:19
Speaker 5: You know, when it was illegal, it was less accessible.
26:23
Speaker 7: You could still get it wherever you wanted to, but
26:25
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, your choices were much, much smaller
26:30
Speaker 7: and you didn't really, there was a little taboo to it.
26:32
Speaker 7: You're doing something illegal, right? But now it's legal, right?
26:35
Speaker 7: In a lot of states, most states, right? So you
26:37
Speaker 7: can just walk across the street. buy a bag for
26:40
Speaker 7: like 20 bucks and come back to your home and
26:43
Speaker 7: you know get stoned the thing is together with some
26:46
Speaker 7: friends and get stoned yeah.
26:47
Speaker 2: In new york city unfortunately they're not coming home they're
26:49
Speaker 2: doing it right out in public and you smell it
26:52
Speaker 2: everywhere doc it's it's not the most pleasant smell and
26:55
Speaker 2: it's so funny because i'm so naive to this i've
26:58
Speaker 2: never held a joint in my life and i mean
26:59
Speaker 2: that i'm not condemning anyone who does or who has
27:03
Speaker 2: right i just never have And so the first time,
27:05
Speaker 2: and I went to high school and college in Manhattan,
27:07
Speaker 2: but I was born and raised in suburbia. First time
27:10
Speaker 2: I smelled it, I was like, what is that? Is
27:12
Speaker 2: somebody burning a skunk? I had no idea.
27:14
Speaker 5: But now it's everywhere.
27:16
Speaker 2: You can't escape it. You walk out of our building
27:19
Speaker 2: here in Midtown and you smell the stench everywhere you
27:23
Speaker 2: go to the point that I was in a ride share.
27:28
Speaker 2: It was a group ride share where you take a
27:30
Speaker 2: ride with somebody else. And the other guy who was
27:32
Speaker 2: in it, when I got in, was reeking of it
27:36
Speaker 2: to the point that I think I had a contact sent. Like,
27:39
Speaker 2: you know, there was that Seinfeld episode where they thought
27:41
Speaker 2: the funk transferred from the cabin to them. Everywhere I went,
27:45
Speaker 2: I thought people were looking at me like I was
27:46
Speaker 2: smoking pot, and I've never smoked it.
27:48
Speaker 5: In my life.
27:49
Speaker 2: But now, the other... Go ahead. I'm sorry, Doc.
27:51
Speaker 7: Well, that is a concern. So, if you are going
27:53
Speaker 7: to use marijuana recreationally, please do not drive. Do not
27:57
Speaker 7: operate machinery. Treat it just like alcohol. Treat it as
28:01
Speaker 7: if you were drunk, because... you know, that is a
28:04
Speaker 7: DUI waiting to happen.
28:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I, you know, I have friends who smoke pot.
28:09
Speaker 2: I don't have a problem with it, doing it at home,
28:10
Speaker 2: you're doing it at night. I do not have a
28:13
Speaker 2: moral issue. I'm very libertarian when it comes to that stuff.
28:16
Speaker 2: As long as you're not doing it in front of
28:17
Speaker 2: your kids, and you're not, you know, putting off your responsibilities,
28:22
Speaker 2: or as you said, you're not driving, or you're not
28:24
Speaker 2: at work, those are the keys. As long as you're
28:27
Speaker 2: not doing something essential and important at that point, then
28:30
Speaker 2: have at it. Because it's hard to justify... being able
28:34
Speaker 2: to go home and have a cocktail, but not being
28:36
Speaker 2: able to go home and have a joint. I can't
28:38
Speaker 2: make a valid argument for one versus the other.
28:42
Speaker 7: Well, I would say the one argument would be that
28:45
Speaker 7: one drink is not going to get you trashed, right?
28:49
Speaker 7: But taking an edible, you might not know how much
28:51
Speaker 7: is in it. And that can really hit you hard
28:54
Speaker 7: and it can sneak up on you and it can
28:56
Speaker 7: last for a long time.
28:58
Speaker 2: Well, that's good to know. When the day comes, I
28:59
Speaker 2: will know that. I will make a note of that.
29:02
Speaker 2: Be careful having the bag of edibles. That's probably not
29:05
Speaker 2: a good idea.
29:06
Speaker 7: Look at that.
29:07
Speaker 2: I just had four.
29:07
Speaker 5: Let me have four more.
29:08
Speaker 2: Nothing has happened yet. Then I'll be sleeping until Thursday.
29:11
Speaker 5: That does happen, yes.
29:12
Speaker 2: My goodness.
29:12
Speaker 5: That does happen. Well, people wake up in the ER.
29:16
Speaker 2: Yikes.
29:16
Speaker 5: That's not good.
29:17
Speaker 2: And of course, I know we've had incidents of kids
29:19
Speaker 2: getting their hands on some of the gummies that look
29:21
Speaker 2: like real candy, correct?
29:23
Speaker 5: Correct.
29:24
Speaker 7: Well, that is a real concern as well, especially for
29:26
Speaker 7: our seniors who might be grandfathers or grandmommies. Think about
29:32
Speaker 7: your grandkids. If they are coming over and you got
29:35
Speaker 7: some recreational marijuana in your house, you want to lock
29:37
Speaker 7: that up, put that away because they will find. it
29:40
Speaker 7: and they will think it is candy and they will
29:43
Speaker 7: eat it.
29:43
Speaker 5: And we see that's a growing problem right now in
29:46
Speaker 5: the U.S.
29:47
Speaker 2: Now, as a doctor of counseling, do you have patients
29:50
Speaker 2: who come in whom you could recommend edibles and marijuana to,
29:54
Speaker 2: to help them stabilize and be calm? Or is it
29:57
Speaker 2: something you try to get them away from? Is it
29:58
Speaker 2: more of an issue of addiction than anything else?
30:02
Speaker 7: Well, unfortunately for me, I'm in Texas, so there is
30:04
Speaker 7: no access to marijuana for us of any kind. We'd
30:08
Speaker 7: have to leave the state. So no, I would not
30:11
Speaker 7: advise any of my patients to break the law. If
30:14
Speaker 7: they are on some kind of prescribed THC for sleep
30:18
Speaker 7: or something like that by a medical doctor, I'll just
30:20
Speaker 7: refer to the medical doctor for their recommendation. But we do,
30:25
Speaker 7: I mean, if they are struggling from addiction, I do
30:27
Speaker 7: want my patients to be 100% sober from everything. Otherwise,
30:31
Speaker 7: they're just masking the issue a different way.
30:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting you say that. We just
30:35
Speaker 2: had this story about Brad Pitt, who had been struggling
30:38
Speaker 2: with alcohol disorder, alcohol use disorder. We used to call
30:42
Speaker 2: it alcoholism, right? Today, it's maybe a more user-friendly term.
30:47
Speaker 2: And he suddenly, after years of sobriety, says, oh, I
30:50
Speaker 2: can go back to drinking a little bit. Can people
30:52
Speaker 2: really go back to drinking a little bit if they've
30:54
Speaker 2: been addicted?
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Speaker 7: Well, we find that there's typically two types of dependence
31:02
Speaker 7: for individuals. One is going to be, yeah, I'm using
31:06
Speaker 7: this substance to mask an emotion, to deal with a problem,
31:10
Speaker 7: however deep that might be. Once that's resolved, then yeah,
31:13
Speaker 7: I can develop some sobriety. Maybe I can go back
31:16
Speaker 7: to normal, regular use, right? And then there's just the
31:19
Speaker 7: kind of individual, it's actually my best friend. He's been
31:22
Speaker 7: sober for 11 years now. And I asked him once,
31:25
Speaker 7: I said, you know, do you ever see yourself drinking again?
31:28
Speaker 7: And he said, no, not really.
31:29
Speaker 5: And I said, well, why?
31:29
Speaker 7: And his response was because I don't want to wake
31:32
Speaker 7: up on the floor in Vegas, you know? So he's
31:35
Speaker 7: just like, there's no, there is no middle ground for him, right?
31:38
Speaker 7: It's zero or we're gone.
31:41
Speaker 2: I have several friends who are exactly that. And one
31:43
Speaker 2: of them who's been, I guess, 10 years plus sober.
31:47
Speaker 2: said the minute I have that first drink, I'm going
31:49
Speaker 2: to go back to drinking 40 ounces of vodka. And,
31:52
Speaker 2: and that's, and that was stunned me when I heard
31:54
Speaker 2: that I'm thinking you've been sober 10 years and that's
31:57
Speaker 2: how much you would do. I mean, the fact that
31:58
Speaker 2: anyone could drink 40 ounces of vodka got me, but
32:00
Speaker 2: the fact that he would say that really got me.
32:02
Speaker 2: And is that, would that be the case like with
32:04
Speaker 2: your friend?
32:06
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly. That's the case with my friend.
32:07
Speaker 7: Uh, but then there's other people I've had patients before that,
32:10
Speaker 7: you know, say they, they had a death in their
32:12
Speaker 7: family and they used alcohol to deal with that or
32:15
Speaker 7: marijuana to deal with that. instead of grieving. Years go by,
32:19
Speaker 7: they end up going into some kind of treatment facility
32:22
Speaker 7: to deal with the addiction. They work through it, they
32:25
Speaker 7: conquer it, they come out the other side, they've dealt
32:27
Speaker 7: with the grief, they've dealt with the loss, and then
32:29
Speaker 7: they're able to go back to normal lifestyle.
32:32
Speaker 2: Well, it's something you should really, if you've been sober
32:36
Speaker 2: for a while, definitely talk to your doctor and your
32:38
Speaker 2: family before you decide to dabble again.
32:40
Speaker 5: Oh, absolutely, yes.
32:42
Speaker 2: You don't want to have to fall off the wagon
32:43
Speaker 2: after all those years of hard work.
32:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
32:46
Speaker 2: So, doctor, if somebody wants to reach out, find more
32:48
Speaker 2: about you, you have a website?
32:50
Speaker 7: I do, taylorkounselinggroup.com, and you can find my book as well, youareherethebook.com.
32:55
Speaker 2: I love it. Dr. Taylor, thank you so much for
32:57
Speaker 2: being on with us this morning. Taylor Counseling Group based
33:00
Speaker 2: in Texas. Have a wonderful Labor Day weekend.
33:03
Speaker 5: It was my pleasure.
33:03
Speaker 3: You as well.
33:04
Speaker 6: Thanks.
33:04
Speaker 2: Thank you, sir. 800-321-0710, 800-321-0710, the number to call. We'll
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Speaker 2: take your calls coming up next. This is Ken Rosato
33:12
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33:14
Speaker 1: Now nine till noon weekdays, the Mark Simone Show on 710WOR.
33:21
Speaker 1: Guest hosting for Mark today, here's Ken Rosato.
33:25
Speaker 2: And so good to be with you. We go to
33:27
Speaker 2: our busy phones right now. Rocco in Bergen County. Good
33:29
Speaker 2: morning to you.
33:31
Speaker 3: Morning, Ken.
33:33
Speaker 2: How are you, sir? What would you like to talk about?
33:36
Speaker 6: Real quick, Ken, I know you're up against it. A
33:38
Speaker 6: couple of things. Number one, I'm 73 years old, and
33:42
Speaker 6: I got to know Mark pretty well over the years.
33:45
Speaker 6: I worked at the Meadowlands Arena until it closed, and
33:49
Speaker 6: we used to always have every June, we always had
33:51
Speaker 6: the oldie show, and Mark was always there. He was
33:54
Speaker 6: very good friends with Richard Nader and his wife, who
33:57
Speaker 6: were very nice people.
33:58
Speaker 5: Well, anyway.
33:59
Speaker 6: Mark had a call a couple of days ago. I
34:01
Speaker 6: think it was Wednesday. Some guy called up and said, well,
34:04
Speaker 6: you know, why are they taking the statue down of
34:07
Speaker 6: Stonewall Jackson? When the war was over, he tried to
34:10
Speaker 6: help the slaves. Well, if you maybe learned your history,
34:14
Speaker 6: Stonewall Jackson was killed second year of the war by
34:17
Speaker 6: friendly fire. So he was never there at the end
34:20
Speaker 6: of the war. Interesting. Once again, they don't teach these
34:23
Speaker 6: kids anything anymore, Ken.
34:24
Speaker 2: No, they don't. No, they don't, unfortunately. Well, just like
34:27
Speaker 2: we had callers, people who were saying that Jesus was Muslim. Well,
34:33
Speaker 2: considered Islam came 500 years later. This is not about
34:38
Speaker 2: Muslim-Christian-Jewish relations. It's about history. It's just reality. If Islam
34:44
Speaker 2: didn't come until 500 years later, come on.
34:47
Speaker 6: You know, Ken, it's all part of the revisionist. We
34:49
Speaker 6: didn't drop the bomb on the Japanese to win the war.
34:52
Speaker 6: We did it to show the Russians that we had it.
34:54
Speaker 6: Don't you know?
34:55
Speaker 2: Of course. That's the way the revisionists want it to be.
34:58
Speaker 2: But that's always going to be the case. They always,
35:00
Speaker 2: always try to rewrite history. And then, unfortunately, people latch on. Well,
35:04
Speaker 2: let's look. Look at 9-11. Look at 9-11. The fact
35:07
Speaker 2: that we have, Rocco, over 100 million people who were
35:11
Speaker 2: born post-9-11-01. 100 million in the United States. That's a
35:17
Speaker 2: crazy statistic. When I heard that number the other day,
35:19
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. I thought maybe 30, 35, 100 million.
35:23
Speaker 2: A third of our country, Rocco.
35:25
Speaker 6: Ken?
35:26
Speaker 4: Yes, sir.
35:26
Speaker 6: I was born on 9-11.
35:28
Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
35:29
Speaker 2: But not 01.
35:31
Speaker 6: But here's the funny part. When I tell people that,
35:34
Speaker 6: I say, well, you know what? The reaction that you
35:36
Speaker 6: folks have is the same as the people had if
35:39
Speaker 6: you told them you were born on December 7th.
35:42
Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 5: This is true.
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Speaker 1: There you go.
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Speaker 2: Hey, Rocco, I've got to cut you because we're up
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Speaker 2: against the news, but I appreciate the call, my friend.
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Speaker 2: I'll be back in for Mark again tomorrow. It's Ken Rosato.
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Speaker 2: Then Mark gets back in the seat Monday. Buck and
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Speaker 2: Clay are coming up next. Then at 3, the most
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Speaker 2: listened to talk show in America, Sean Hannity. Jesse Kelly's
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Speaker 2: in at 6. Jimmy Fela at 9. Again, Mark in
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