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Let's get started, all right, So five four, three, two
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and one. Welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to have as my
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guest today doctor lour Moore, Laurie. Welcome, Thank you, thank you,
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welcome. Thanks something right off of that. As an LMFT, I'm
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not allowed to call myself doctor. I know it's confusing. I'm an expressive
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art psychologist, so I call myself doctor. With my coaching clients and for
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California Legal reasons. I'm not a clinical psychologist. I'm expressive art psychologist,
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so my license is an LMFT and I'm required just say back no worries.
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Okay, so that's fine, we can do. Oh just do redo the
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intro. Okay, perfect right. So five four, three, two and
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one, our folks, welcome back to the podcast. Very excited to have
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as my guest today, Lori Moore Lourie Welcome, Thank you guys, good
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to be here. So Laurie is a spiritual teacher with graduate degrees and expressive
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arts therapy. She's a licensed Marriage Family Counseling therapist and she has certificates and
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animal communication and hypnotherapy. Her work utilizes communicating with all species and moment to
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moment creation and her message is simple, rather simply is that you are a
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gift to the universe. Welcome again and really excited to talk to you.
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But before we could go in here, share with the listeners where you're from
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originally and where you are currently? Okay you mean geographically? Yeah? Yes,
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yes, okay. Well I was born interestingly in California and at one
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years old because my dad ended up working with one of the Kennedys and very
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liberal guy, and we moved to Washington, d C. And I grew
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up in Bethesda, and I've lived in Hawaii, but I've mostly spent most
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of my adulthood in California. Awesome, awesome, so interesting. I don't
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think I've ever talked to someone who has a certificate animal communication and hypnotherapy,
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but we'll get into that. So how did this interest in what's the word
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healing? Would that be safe to say? Or yes? How did all
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this start for you? I think we come in with a sole purpose.
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I really, at this point believe that I feel it was very destined.
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I was intricately involved in arts and drama and music and dance and writing songs
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and choreographing dances, writing plays, putting them on, having kids put them
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on, working with adults to put them on. And that led me to
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decide to get a degree in express of art therapy because people I was coaching
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just naturally in that process as I would direct performances, we're going through healings
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and transformations. So I wanted to learn more. I wanted to learn more
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about facilitating people's wellness and transformation. So you said, you believe that we
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all come into this world world with a soul purpose. I do, yes,
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define soul purpose. I think sole purposes are s o U L.
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Yes, Okay, yes, yes, yes, I think sole purposes are
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very simple. I think that our souls have a direction and an expression.
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So someone might come in to bring tremendous humor to the planet and they could
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do anything from just being someone who's like picking up garbage and everyone they meet
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they're telling a Joe to Robin Williams, right, So it's not the outer
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shell. It's how we utilize the world to bring our gift to help others.
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Are we cognizant of this purpose? Because a lot of this is a
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really interesting question to me, because you know, in the self help literature,
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find your purpose, and a lot of people are like, I don't
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know what my purpose is. I don't have a purpose. I can't find
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it. So what is your response to that. I think when we are
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living out our purpose, we feel very fulfilled and on track. I don't
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know that we know our purpose all of us. Others know it, others
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can see it, and I think we get enough feedback throughout our life that
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it can become clear to us. I think when we're not living out our
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purpose, we feel bland or bored or unfulfilled. Yeah, I don't think
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we get to design it the way the new age wants to think. The
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new Age is, I'm very new age, but the new age the way
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I'm not new age is the new age wants us to think that our willpower
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rules the world and we mentally design no offense to anyone in the new Age.
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Again I'm very new age, but that we mentally design with our willpower
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what we're going to do. And the world is so much bigger than that.
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Our purposes are bigger than that, and the universal stream is bigger than
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that. Well, I mean, if we are, if we're living our
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sole purpose, when we're doing what makes us happy, what comes easy to
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us, when we're in our genius in a sense, I mean, who's
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to say we can't design a life around that we do and that I believe.
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I'm all for that. I help people do that. We manifest the
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framework and the goals and hitting you know, the target. But there's something
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innate about each of us that will come through as a gift to all the
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others which we don't design. Right, Okay, So let's take a step
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back. So you were born into this world with this desire, need,
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gift of wanting to express yourself in a sense. At what point, Laurie
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did this channel into you know, helping other people in terms of a therapist
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or we haven't even touched upon animal communication. Yeah, bring that in here,
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talk to us about that. That was just who I was from early
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age. In kindergarten, I was helping kids in the neighborhood and creating little
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libraries in the house for the grown ups around to come visit. And you
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know, by the time I was I think seven, I was putting on
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these fundraisers at the school. So that was just the way I was.
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Yeah, so you go through school, and when you were in school,
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let's say, high school, college, what were you thinking in terms of
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profession moving forward. I didn't know. I thought I would just probably grow
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up. This is wild. I thought, well, grow up, I'll
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go to school for a couple of years, I'll meet my forever husband and
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drop out and have kids, which was like the exact opposite of my My
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wife has been so career driven into the globe into the service where and that's
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not at all how it played out. Yeah, So how did it play
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out. What How did it play out? It played out just following my
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heart, one step at a time, wild things happened. I mean,
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I didn't know I would have a global business. I didn't know that one
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year I would suddenly switch from being a therapist to being a therapist and a
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coach and a reader and a spiritual facilitator. Everything was always a surprise to
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me. I did not I didn't have like a map of how it was
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going to go. Yeah, you talked about kind of following your heart.
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I mean that's hard for a lot of us to do. Did that Was
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that something that am easily for you? It was? And I think that's
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a lot of the work I do with people as I help them to get
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back to a deeper place in their heart and love themselves and love what they're
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here to do. And for me, that was just that was easy.
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I was, in that way, very fortunate. Yeah, I should say
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so that's something that I struggle to a certain degree with And I really appreciate
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what you're saying, and I agree with what you're saying. And when you're
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when you're able to do that right, when you follow what your gift is
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or your heart is or your energies go, you're on fire, yes,
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yeah, and that's later. Yes, that's how everything takes off in ways
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you would never ever expect. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah. So all right,
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you you think you're gonna your life path is going to go one way,
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it goes one hundred intervireews the other way. So walk us through how
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you started helping people in an organized business way. What was going on for
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you? Take as seret Well, Like I said, when I was leading,
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I was on fire to create these musicals, and these musicals were to
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bring forth a humane environment, to bring forth love and kindness and upliftment.
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And in that process, I noted the way I interacted with the people who
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had come to be part of that was healing. They were going through transformations.
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And so I went to graduate school to study expressive arts art, drama,
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music, dance therapy. And when I came out of that, I
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was very focused on that and I would sit with people one on one and
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help them with their problems. And I had a pretty strong spiritual occurrence during
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that time, and very quickly things happened. Happened. One day I'm on
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like I was interviewing with like O'Reilly and O'Reilly Factor and Ricky Lake and all
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those people and there, and I was being told, oh, you're going
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to be you know, you're going to get a big show, and they
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were. I was on the limousines and in New York and I had this
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huge spiritual awaking for my cat reincarnated. So I'm like, I better not
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say anything. People are going to think I am some nuts, you know,
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But I had to. I had to start telling people about what I
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had experienced, and very quickly, within it was probably within about six months,
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I was going to Hawaii. I was taking people into spiritual awakenings.
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I was public. So how long ago was this when you were working one
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on one after you've got out of your expressive arts program? This? Okay,
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so this was like over twenty five years ago, okay? And then
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yeah, after that you were close to that, you were what on the
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Rali Factor and doing all the limousine stuff with the shows and yeah, and
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everything. It sweat and it's switched because why specifically, well, I had
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such a profound experience with people will make fun of me, but I had
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such a profound experience when with a cat that reincarnated it and let's even leave
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out that he reincarnated. I went into a state of upon views. Yeah,
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I went into an experience of oneness with the whole universe, like I've
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talked a lot about it on Rick Arthurus Show and Buddha at the Gas Pump.
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So I have a lot of the people I work with are from more
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that spiritual place now, but I had that experience. It's not a conceptual
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experience, it's a it's a real experience. And from that also feeling a
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soul of a cat came back to me in a new body, being crystal
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clear that it happened. I was teaching a little group at my home only
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a few days later, and I was thinking, don't say anything, you
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know, don't say anything about this. This sounds so nutty, and something
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in the love for humanity and life was like, you have to share this.
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So I just told them and people were crying and they started to share
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their own hidden experiences, and this led to some interview in Hawaii and it
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all unfolded soon. I was as soon I was taking people into deep spiritual
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awakenings, and people from around the world were coming, and I was giving
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seminars. We had a big Seminar Company. It was called the Miracle Ground
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for a while and the name was changed to the Love Climate. But those
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were very amazing years. And like I said, there was no I didn't
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start with a map. I really just followed my soul, what my soul
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told me to do. Yeah, well, I appreciate sharing that. I'm
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not in fun of you. I don't do that on this podcast. You
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know, I am open to who knows what the hell is going to thought
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out here? So I haven't believed me. I there's no judge admit.
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I mean, I really appreciate you sharing that and what your path and journey
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is so wow. So where after all that, where are we landing now?
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What is the work that you're doing? I would say tempered balance,
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like deep, deep respect for people no matter what they're going through. It's
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a very difficult time for many people on the planet. People go through personal
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things that are so difficult. I think the younger generations are coming in having
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to handle complexities of the mind that I didn't. And so I'm helping people
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with pattern changes, mostly people finding that their brains and their moods and their
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bodies aren't cooperating with what their deeper intentions are at times right, And so
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I'm doing a lot of that now, helping people kind of rewire and unwire
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and in that fine still the same work find a respect and love for themselves
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in all of life. Well, I would, I would even qualify what
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you're saying, and most I would say, most times, most of us
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are misaligned let alone. Do we even know what are going back to the
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purpose, what our purpose is, or where we're having joy? Well,
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what's interesting in talking to you? You have so many kind of rivers of
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really interesting experience that you're bringing to the work you're doing, right, Yeah,
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whether it be spiritual or expressive, arts and more traditional you know,
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MFT background and so forth. Who would you say to do you work with
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adults only? I do now. I mean I worked with children for years,
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but in terms of therapy and coaching, In terms of therapy adults only,
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I do have some teens, and for coachings and readings, I do
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have younger people who call, like a whole family will call often. But
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people who are having trauma, which seems to be like everyone in the world
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these days. Yeah, I love to help with that, and I have
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a lot of adults coming in to work with trauma. And I think that's
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very directly related to our If we're troubled and something things are bothering us and
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we don't feel quite like ourselves, we're feeling like something about our sole purpose
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isn't being actualized. My life has been a lot of ups and downs and
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I always ask, you know, for just a calm life, but it's
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not how it's gone. And I spent about eight months close to death.
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It's a miracle that I'm alive this. A year and a half ago,
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I was in a hospice in ConA and I weighed ninety one pounds and no
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one knew it was warm with me. It turned out I had lime disease
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for many, many years and it got me. But it was eight months
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of hell. I went through eight months of hell and I didn't know if
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I was going to live. And I have intricately, step by step,
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like had to heal my body and my organs in my brain and you know,
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find out what was wrong with me and hang on to the slave and
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ask am I meant to go? Am I meant to stay and fight and
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surrender? So I came back with a whole different depth of compassion for just
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about everything at this point. Yeah. Yeah, so my work's very informed
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by that now, just having deep respect for whatever anyone is experiencing. Yeah,
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when you know in this work you do, and you know in this
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field, in the mental health space, coaching space, there's a lot of
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talk about self care, doing your own work, what have you? What
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are some of the things that you've learned about yourself that allows you and helps
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you to do the work you do with others. I think the eight months
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was really informative because I was pretty dysfunctional. I couldn't do much, so
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a lot of the time I was just doing inner spiritual work that didn't have
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any format. Most of the time I had learned. I just had to
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go with what was coming internally to me. And you know, it showed
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me that each person's maps are so different, and we can create all kinds
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of formulas and helpful tools, which are wonderful. There's so many these days,
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and I have a big kit of those, but we have to follow
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the way that each individual's brain and body and emotions work for themselves, because
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no one really fits into any any preconceived We have bits and pieces of all
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these preconceived ideas and maps, but everyone's quite distinct and how they navigate,
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and people need respect for that. People need to be honored and shown that
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whatever is troubling them is likely to be the source of their greatest talents and
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gifts. They need facilitation with that. So if someone's depressed or having anxiety,
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or having trauma or complex trauma, complicated trauma, you know, any
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kind of trauma, they need to be someone has to sit with them and
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reflect back to them their majesty, their goodness, how incredible they are,
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and how this disrupt is part of that. It's just part of something trying
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to evolve. In terms of all the different kind of modalities out there,
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you know, I've talked a little bit about them. What is your thought
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on the importance of therapists coaches even understanding those modalities. I mean there's so
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many, right, There's MDR and somebodic experiencing and sensory motor and on and
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on and on and on. Yeah, do you what are your thoughts on
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that is? Is it important for therapists to know a little bit about all
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of them or find the one that works quote unquote works for them? What
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are your thinks. I think it's really important to know some, to not
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limit ourselves to keep learning different ones, because different clients will respond to different
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modalities, and it keeps our minds open to different modes and ways of pressing.
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I mean, I've seen the therapy field change so much in my time
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doing it, so I think it's very important to have some that you can
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do quite deeply and you know really well, and to stay open to learning
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more. But knowing a lot about a little bit about all of them would
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be another kind of personality type that works that way. So I don't think
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there's a right way or a wrong way, but it's it's important that we
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keep ourselves informed and growing and open. So you work as you're working as
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correct me if I'm wrong here, you're working as a therapist and a coach
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separately. People have to decide when they come to me, are you going
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to be coming for therapy or coaching? If you're not in California, that
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already puts you in coaching, And then are you doing coaching with readings?
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Because I have this intuitive gift that I use too, So you can't switch
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around for legal and ethical reasons. Got it? Got it? Okay,
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Now are you to provide trainings for other therapists only one on one? At
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this point, I all my work is now one on one. So yeah,
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therapists, healers, coaches come to get trained with me? Yes?
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Interesting, Now what are you offering them in terms of trainings. I have
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a whole list of different trainings people can go through, and their trainings everything
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from manifestation to working with self defeating habits to just getting feedback on their own
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path. Because I have supervised LMFTs in that way too, so I like
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to talk to the person and see what they're looking for and we create the
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right one on one program together before we start. This is cool. I
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think this could be really helpful. I'm just thinking of our listeners here,
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and you know, like I said, it's so important for therapists and coaches
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to do that work for themselves. And it sounds like you're providing in a
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sense of platform to work with them on that right. It's so for me
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from my experience, you know, I got out of graduate school, I
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was working in a clinic for a short time five years. I was in
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northern California. We were assessing and treating young kids who are showing early signs
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of psychosis. And so much of my motivation and drive was knowledge, right.
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I thought that that was the be all, end all of working with
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people. And though it's important, it's certainly not the whole picture, right.
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So much of it is understanding who we are, our biases, our
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tendencies, and even our gifts, right, what we bring to that relationship.
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And I think it's really cool to hear someone say that you can even
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help people work on that. That's really cool. Yeah, well, your
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drive for knowledge has created this beautiful platform because you take great interest in different
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people's knowledge, right, And you have to back knowledge to be able to
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do that, to ask these questions. Yeah, that I do. But
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I also you know, I for the longest time, I didn't trust the
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importance of what I would bring to the setting in a sense. And I
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think trusting you know, we talked about trusting our are, what our gift,
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our own journey. I think that's so valuable, especially when we're talking
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about people who've been impacted by trauma. They've lost almost all of that.
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There's almost devoid of self trust and and oftentimes love. But to provide that
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I think is really really interesting inspiring to. Yeah, I learned a lot
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about that in the eight months that I mentioned, because all of a sudden,
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like I had no title, I had no you know. I guess
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my life's been very wonderful in some ways because I have been treated well,
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and I mean I kind of got treated like crap some of the time.
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And I was a real insight into, oh my god, how are people
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treated and when they're ill and when they're getting old. It was a very
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horrible insight into it. But I'm grateful I experienced that because I had to
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rely on a kind of self respect that was not I had to like look
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through this world where people were looking at me with these horrible projections that I
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wasn't used to. I mean, the projections people come up with when people
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are sick and dysfunctional and capable has nothing to do with the spirit and the
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soul. So it was quite a fabulous learning and to deepen the respect for
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everyone once again, to just assume, Wow, each person is a genius
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and has so much going on, and I'm just here to help them be
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honored for it and have it uncovered. Yeah, I mean, I think
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it's it's hard for a lot of us to do that. It's hard for
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a lot of us to believe that we have a certain genius, believe that
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we have a certain fire or gift. I don't have a gift. You
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have a gift. I don't. Who are you kidding? Something we're taught
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huh yeah, something you're taught by, yeah, by all the different channels.
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Yeah. But I do believe that. I do believe that each of
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us has a whatever you want to call it, has a has a this.
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There are burning where each burning flames in our own way. You want
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to call that a gift or genius or whatever you know. But it's oftentimes
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so hard two for us to see that. And I think it's those incredible
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coaches like yourself and therapists who are able to reflect that and invite their clients
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to see that and believe that and to honor that. I mean that,
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Come on, what else is in here? Really? Yeah? Yeah?
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So all right, Laurie, as we kind of wind down here, how
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do people get in touch with you? What's the best way people can call
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me or text me at A three one four seven seven seven zers er seven.
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That's eight three one four seven seven seven zeers yer seven. People can
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go to my websites. There's a counseling website counting Scottsvalle dot us. Or
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just go to Psychology Today dot com. You look for me and I have
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Anna Miracles a nimracles dot com and Animericles dot com slash new for coachings and
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readings. Okay, okay, we have each of those linked up here at
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the show notes page at the Trauma theaporspodcast dot com. Laurie, we didn't
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even talk about it, and I'm them there. I'm gonna have to bring
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you back. I'd love to have you back. I'd love to come back.
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Yeah, we have lots more to talk about. Great, ye Look,
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I really appreciate you showing up and sharing your your journey and your honesty.
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I mean, this is what I hope this podcast is about pleasure meeting
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you. Thank you. It was wonderful to sit with you. You showed
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up with such embodiment of passion for your work in life, and I'm very
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grateful we could have this time. So thank you very much. Guy,
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I appreciate that. All right, take care, Hey, gooye bye