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All women love women, women most affected | Maintaining Frame 170 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to Honey Badger Radio. My name
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  Speaker 1: is Brian. I'm here with Allison and this is maintaining
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  Speaker 1: frame number one seventy. All men love women, women most effective,
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  Speaker 1: All women love all women love women. All women love women,
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  Speaker 1: women most affected affected.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if we'll ever get we'll ever find
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  Speaker 2: the bottom of this barrel of women most affected. No,
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  Speaker 2: women women most affected?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, women exist, women most affected. I mean we already
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  Speaker 1: We're already at men exist, women most affected.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, why not? I mean men exist applies the
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  Speaker 2: existence of another, which implies that women are most infected
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  Speaker 2: by the existence of the other that is not men.
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  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: That's true.
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  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So we're gonna be we got the request.
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  Speaker 2: this might affect his ability to attend certain conventions well
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  Speaker 2: Badger related events, so it'd be great to get that
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  Speaker 2: help fixed for him. It's essentially he hit a deer.
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  Speaker 2: If you're wondering, where is.
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  Speaker 1: Me deer the deer. I didn't hit a deer, I'm serious.
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  Speaker 1: If you were doing the speed, I was looking out,
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  Speaker 1: but where it happened, a deer just jumped on top,
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  Speaker 1: like basically on top of the car.
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  Speaker 2: world fling. Yeah, No, I believe it because we've had
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  Speaker 2: close encounters of the deer kind, not not like, not
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  Speaker 2: to that degree, but the deer they have a death wish.
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  Speaker 2: Those deer, they do, and they're going to they're going
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  Speaker 2: to bring you into their death wish and and they'll
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  Speaker 2: So I believe it. And plus like we we are,
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  Speaker 2: you know, everything in Saskatchewan are most things. In Saskatchewan,
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  Speaker 2: lot of advanced warning if anything is coming towards the car.
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  Speaker 2: But in Virginia lots of windy roads and thickets to
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  Speaker 2: hide deer who no longer wish to be in this world.
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  Speaker 2: So I believe it. But anyway, if you want to
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  Speaker 2: And I'm not sure if I made it visible in
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  Speaker 2: you go. Yeah, Okay, Canada has a moose problem. Night
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  Speaker 2: Motorcycle says, yeah, but if you stay away from the
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  Speaker 2: moose where the moose are, moose generally don't come to us.
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  Speaker 2: They don't start things. Moose they'll end things, but they
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  Speaker 2: don't start things unless you come really close to them,
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  Speaker 2: and then which case they figure you started it. So okay,
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  Speaker 2: speaking of starting things.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, let's get into this queer keywid video called All
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  Speaker 1: Women Love Women Are Suddenly Gay. So what summary is
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  Speaker 1: that queer key we went to She basically peruses Reddit
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  Speaker 1: to get her content. Yeah, and there's a reddick called
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  Speaker 1: suddenly Gay and so she goes there and explores queer
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  Speaker 1: humor and accidental revelations. So I get Let's play a
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  Speaker 1: bit of the intro, Richard Bierre gives us five dollars
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  Speaker 1: to see it, says, at least Rainbow Shite isn't talking
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  Speaker 1: about Cooter Muffins.
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  Speaker 2: I guess why do you bring this up again? Okay, no,
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  Speaker 2: I know why for that reaction?
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  Speaker 1: Probably yeah, yeah, you give him what he wants every time.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So let's play it.
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  Speaker 4: Three things, guys, girls, no matter repuls and welcome to
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  Speaker 4: another fun short video that I enjoy making and I
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  Speaker 4: hope you enjoy watching. And today we're doing something that,
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  Speaker 4: for some reason, I've never done before, which is astounding
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  Speaker 4: considering how long I've been making content and how much
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  Speaker 4: of my content used to revolve around this sort of content.
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  Speaker 4: And that is going through the subreddit ah slash suddenly gay.
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  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea how I've not made a video
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  Speaker 4: about this before. I have no idea why I've not
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  Speaker 4: made a video about this before. But I had a
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  Speaker 4: lot of fun going through the subreddit, and I hope
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  Speaker 4: you have a lot of fun looking at what I
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  Speaker 4: found with me.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Just that's her like laying out her big idea.
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  Speaker 1: So let's jump into when we get into the that
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  Speaker 1: was a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of words to say I've found some cancer in our
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  Speaker 2: suddenly gay. You could have just could just you know,
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  Speaker 2: that was like five seconds. I think we just went
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  Speaker 2: through thirty.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, So here's she thanks her patrons, of
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  Speaker 1: which he has a lot, which start saying about the
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  Speaker 1: actual date of people today.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's get into some people being suddenly gay.
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  Speaker 4: Happy Pride Month to my dad. When I came out
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  Speaker 4: as by to him, this man googled what it meant,
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  Speaker 4: looked at me and said, oh yeah, you get that
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  Speaker 4: from me. You'd have formal siblings if I only shagged women,
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  Speaker 4: and went right back to his work email.
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  Speaker 1: Shagged shagged, Well it's spelled. I know it's supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be shagged, but that's literally spelled shagged. Sorry just misspelling.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, it's like Zoomers realizing their parents were people or
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  Speaker 2: something and they actually had a life before they they existed,
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  Speaker 2: Like their parents had a life before the Zoomers existed.
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  Speaker 2: John Bryan's just shaking this. Okay, what is what is
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  Speaker 2: her conclusion from this?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure I I sensed that it might be anti mail,
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  Speaker 2: but we'll see it.
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  Speaker 4: So funny, but also suh used protection like that implies
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  Speaker 4: that he was also not safe while having sex with men,
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  Speaker 4: and sir, you absolutely should have been using protection for
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  Speaker 4: both any encounters with men and women pregnancy still should not.
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  Speaker 1: It was a joke, yeah, I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think that he intended that to
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  Speaker 2: be taken as a literal confession of his safe sex practices.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, surely, surely this, uh, this is justified jokes.
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  Speaker 1: Everything is super serious all the time when I want
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  Speaker 1: it to be.
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  Speaker 2: I just love this flag because you know that they
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  Speaker 2: are creating so many lines and colors and symbols, and
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  Speaker 2: what they really want to say is that this is
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  Speaker 2: the no men club, and this is the scapegoating men club.
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  Speaker 2: So why don't they just have like a like they
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  Speaker 2: could just simplify this completely and just have like a
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  Speaker 2: male symbol with.
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  Speaker 1: A I don't think they've even figured out that's what
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  Speaker 1: it really means yet.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm if you debated someone like this, they
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  Speaker 1: would say, no, this isn't excluding men. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they even know they they are. They're just they
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  Speaker 1: just like how special it makes them feel.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, of course, even even as they say things like uh,
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  Speaker 2: gay men, or the straight men of gay people and
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  Speaker 2: black men, or the white men of black people and
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  Speaker 2: trans met whoops hm hmm. Trans trans women are the
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  Speaker 2: trans men of trans people.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe that one's that one's a bit trickier, I think,
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  Speaker 1: but I think that that's why there's a big split
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  Speaker 1: between turfs and intersectionals.
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  Speaker 2: I just wish they would I just wish they would
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  Speaker 2: come out with it, you know, they just be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: everybody but the penis people. We like everybody but the
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  Speaker 2: penis people, and we mostly just advocate for these people
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  Speaker 2: so that we can be meaner to the penis people. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's uh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, I respect this way, just coming out.
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  Speaker 1: Like dealing with calf things.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this.
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  Speaker 4: I can only imagine the look on this person's face
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  Speaker 4: planning he was met with this. Imagine coming out to
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  Speaker 4: your dad and you're like, I'm by I'm attracted to
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  Speaker 4: men and women. I don't care about the gender of
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  Speaker 4: the people I date, and your dad just looks at
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  Speaker 4: me and go, oh, yeah, I used to fuck a
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  Speaker 4: lot of men. What do you how do you do
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  Speaker 4: you respond to that?
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  Speaker 1: You kind of I thought we were supposed to just
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  Speaker 1: be sort of genetically supportive of whatever people do. It's like,
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  Speaker 1: post sexual liberation, understand why this is a problem. You're
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  Speaker 1: supposed to just be blanketly supportive no matter what I thought.
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  Speaker 2: The complaint is that her father has stolen her thunder oh.
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  Speaker 1: So he basically didn't didn't didn't respond get a very
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  Speaker 1: strong reaction. So she wanted to shock her father. Yeah. Probably,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, oh, okay, and that's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Not surprising. I think a lot a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: people do stuff like that because they're hoping to get
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  Speaker 1: a reaction, and then they don't get a reaction because
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't like it. We're not at the point where
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  Speaker 1: that's shocking anymore. And then they get upset that there's
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  Speaker 1: no reaction because that was the whole point, I guess.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was like on Wen or Monday, we talked
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  Speaker 2: about these people who or we were talking about a
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  Speaker 2: scary uh scary skeleton woman.
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  Speaker 1: Femtour drama queen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, John, Yeah, I like I prefer scary skeletor women.
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  Speaker 1: And skeletor is that a whole other level, a whole
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  Speaker 1: other level beyond her, But yeah, I know, I know, Well, okay,
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  Speaker 1: Bizarrow Wednesday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, but Bizarrow Wednesday, okay, well, Bizarrow Wednesday
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  Speaker 2: essentially is talking about how people are offended by individuals
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  Speaker 2: who go out of their way to do things that
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  Speaker 2: are offensive or like out of them or shocking. It's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, for sure, you can do those things, but
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  Speaker 2: people are going to be shocked if you intend to
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  Speaker 2: shock them, right, you know that that's what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: And then they'll do this, and then they'll they'll look
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  Speaker 2: at the reactions of people being shocked or offended by
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  Speaker 2: the things that they did in order to be shocking
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  Speaker 2: and offensive, and they'll say, uh, look at the society
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  Speaker 2: that we are in. Look at it. It is so wrong, right,
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  Speaker 2: And but if there is no reaction, look at the
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  Speaker 2: society we're in, it is wrong. You just can't don't play.
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  Speaker 1: We're running there were we're quickly running out of ways
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  Speaker 1: for people to stand out that the the the snowflakes
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  Speaker 1: are starting to look the same mm hmmm. And they
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  Speaker 1: were they are snowflakes, but now they're not as special,
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  Speaker 1: and so that's a problem because they can't like this.
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  Speaker 1: When we talked about it, I talked about how when
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  Speaker 1: I was little. You know, when I was a kid
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  Speaker 1: growing up, a tattoo, just one was like a huge
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  Speaker 1: deal because you didn't see it. Now, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: you don't see it, it's kind of a big deal, right.
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  Speaker 1: So like this this woman she's trying to put every
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  Speaker 1: color of the rainbow in her hair, and like it
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  Speaker 1: gets no reaction because it's like, okay, whatever. Like once
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  Speaker 1: upon a time that would have been like shocking. But
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  Speaker 1: we're running out of ways for we're running out of well,
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  Speaker 1: we're running out of ways for people who otherwise wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be very interesting to make themselves interesting, because that's usually
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  Speaker 1: what it's like, a cover for something that they lack,
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  Speaker 1: or at least something they think they lack, you know,
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  Speaker 1: in place of a personality, I will apply like crazy
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  Speaker 1: hair colors and wild piercings and like new ways to
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  Speaker 1: shock and awe people when they look at me on
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  Speaker 1: the street, which was like the whole drama queen thing.
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  Speaker 1: And another way is to be like, hey, guys, I'm
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  Speaker 1: like I'm like bye, and people are supposed to be
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  Speaker 1: like whoa, that's crazy, but nobody does that now because
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  Speaker 1: it's like okay, so what that's like, that's actually kind
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  Speaker 1: of a problematic because being bisexual suggests that there are
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  Speaker 1: two genders. So we have a problem here, right, So
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  Speaker 1: like you you can't like even there's there's nothing left,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing new under the sun. It's all it's all
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  Speaker 1: been done now, so it's time to like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like actually like be interesting, like learn a skill, read
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  Speaker 1: a book, you know, be able to hold a conversation
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  Speaker 1: and don't just be like, hey dad, I'm I'm I
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  Speaker 1: think I like girls too. And then he's like eh,
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  Speaker 1: because it's it is old hat. So yeah, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: it might have been.
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  Speaker 2: It might have been controversial when he was liking men,
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  Speaker 2: you know, twenty years ago or how or along it was.
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  Speaker 1: But like they missed out on that, Like back in
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  Speaker 1: the day, maybe that was a big deal, but now
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  Speaker 1: it's not, and it's like, oh, well, where's my struggle,
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  Speaker 1: where's my hurroic fight?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, well, maybe you need to start thinking
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  Speaker 2: about yourself in terms of your action. There's your heroic fight,
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  Speaker 2: fight against the monsters from your own id. Yeah, become
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  Speaker 2: a better person instead of just defining yourself by ridiculous
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  Speaker 2: categories that you make up. In many cases, Okay, let's
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  Speaker 2: uh more rainbow rainbow.
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  Speaker 1: Individual rainbow shite.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, let's go Okay, a little bit too much information there,
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  Speaker 4: but like that's hilarious. I would I don't know, why
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  Speaker 4: is it too much or just be like.
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  Speaker 1: That is kind of weird because like this is literally
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  Speaker 1: are suddenly gay. You'd think that there's probably some sexual content,
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  Speaker 1: that that's the whole art, but it seems to be
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  Speaker 1: a problem, well because of the father, because it's her father.
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  Speaker 1: That's why.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you having a scheam rainbow? Is that some
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  Speaker 2: unexamined homophobia? Okay, well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't be comfortable with my parents telling
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  Speaker 1: me about their sexual adventures. I don't want to know
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  Speaker 1: that about my parents. I know they had sex because
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  Speaker 1: I'm here, but like I don't want my mom to
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  Speaker 1: tell me the story or that herd that she went
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  Speaker 1: through a by phase or something. I think that is
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  Speaker 1: a just in general, but maybe because like I'm speaking for.
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  Speaker 2: Myself, the daughter right, this is no, No, she's not.
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  Speaker 1: She's a third party.
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  Speaker 2: She's a third party saying oh, well, it's good that
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  Speaker 2: her the girl came out as by but male bisexuality.
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  Speaker 2: Oh it's too much information for me.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe, Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's comply because there's you know, great PENI people involved.
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  Speaker 4: Glad we had this chat because that's hilarious. That's so funny, brilliant,
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  Speaker 4: ten out of ten, Happy Pride month to him. Indeed,
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  Speaker 4: I'm not saying Wanda cheated, but Wanda cheated and it's
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  Speaker 4: Wanda from failure of parents. And then that guy that
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember, but whom is like her ex and
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  Speaker 4: he's like in love with her I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what this is.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 2: Tumblr fan crap. Is there some good stuff in here? Maybe?
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  Speaker 5: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Right, Sorry that I asked it a possible question. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just just let's go through your time quotes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me just.
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  Speaker 2: Lay that question. Delay that question?
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  Speaker 1: Well, and can I just ask Richard a question? I'm
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  Speaker 1: being serious. Okay, when you pick these videos, do you
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  Speaker 1: watch them or do you just pick them because it
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  Speaker 1: has people in it that you know that we don't
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  Speaker 1: like or that we might have a reaction to. Because
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  Speaker 1: I feel like when the no, because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: when the video is shared, I presume that there's the
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  Speaker 1: hope that there's something in it that we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to that he wants to hear our opinion on, but
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  Speaker 1: just some like terminally online reddit person and saying Reddit things.
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  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't have anything to add except okay,
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  Speaker 1: retard like I don't. I don't you know. So if
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  Speaker 1: you like, are suddenly gay and you're just laughing at
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  Speaker 1: the content on there, I don't know. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: you're being It's like being over some stranger's house and
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  Speaker 1: they say, come over here, let me show you some
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  Speaker 1: stuff on my computer, and they show you a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of boring websites you've never been to because you've never
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  Speaker 1: been inclined to go there. And so I feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm there's something I'm supposed to be doing, but I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: don't know what it is. So I'm grasping, you know.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm on. I just want to know. If
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Richard doesn't mind, just tell me. Is there something in
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: here that is important? So I don't spend an hour
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: looking at this video.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Does she at any point talk about women becoming gay
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: because of the horribleness of men?
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: Uh?
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Don't I know. I don't think.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: So, all right, let's just go through your time.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: I mean there is a cultural commentary section. Yeah, but
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: let's watch this, okay, and let's just watch this. This
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: is canon.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: So sorry, Wanda, I apologize that I'm sorry I had
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to find out this way. At least once a month
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I think about the girl from my high school ap
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: psych class who is like, we shouldn't allow gay people
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: to get married because then all of the girls would
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: want to marry a girl, and the population would die
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: out because we would all want to marry girls. Right,
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: I'm so sorry that you had to find out this way.
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: But no, no, no, that's not true. This is the thing, right,
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: And I see like lesbians talk about this in which
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: a lot of lesbians aren't real because the culture and
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: idea around like women are so pretty, women are beautiful,
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: or women of gray, or women are beautiful and men
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: are all pigs and sex with men is boring and
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: bad and they don't care about us, and we don't
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: really care about them, We just tolerate them. And I've
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: seen that that whole idea that comes from a lot
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: of women makes a lot of lesbians think that the
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: way they feel about men is just house straight women
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: feel about me, which you know, fair enough, I understand.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Wait, wait a second, Wait a second, wait, So all lesbians,
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: I think men don't care about and they're boring, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: I mean you you don't have to just regard men
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: is sexually interesting, to regard men as human beings that
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: you could have platonic relationships with. Like did you did
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: you just see what she glossed over there? Lesbians hate men, really,
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: all of them? Okay, And I guess I'm the I'm
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: the lesbian of phobe. Like what yeah, all right, okay,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: lesbian All okay, we've heard it from brain brow.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: I guess if your exposure to lesbians is Reddit, then yeah.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: They probably do. Yeah, you're probably right. Okay, let's let's
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: all right in not.
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: Realizing that you're lesbian. And I feel like it really
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: did a number on this Kelly here in the similar
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: way of like being like, we all just marry men
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: because we have to, right, that's just like what we
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: were told to do. No one really likes men. We
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: all appreciate how wonderful and beautiful and brilliant women are.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Obviously we can all agree on that, and a lot
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: of straight women do speak like that. So I understand
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: how you may have gotten confused.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: And I hope.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So women and men were getting together because they were
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: told to. There was no other There was no other
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: factors at play through all of human history. Women were
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: just with men because they were told that you were
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: supposed to do that.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: I feel so lucky to be alive then. I mean,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: if it weren't for somebody telling my mom that she
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: was supposed to have babies with my father, she probably
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have And then are the human rings would just
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: be extinct? Gosh, I wonder why there's so much nihilism
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: in the world. I don't know, it's I think it's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: gonna be like something something queer women are better women
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, weak, And I hope she's doing well, has come
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: to terms with her sexuality and has settled down. My
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: girlfriend put makeup on me for Halloween and.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: When we missed something, did we skip.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: Something or let me just go back a little bit. No,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: she just said, he, you know, figures it out. She
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: just basically left it hanging.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: With her sexuality and has settled down.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Because because she's ingested all of this anti mail crap. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: I like to bring this up. I did look at
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: the statistics lesbians have the highest rate of divorce, and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: lesbians and gay couples tend to marry at the same rate,
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: so they do have the highest rate of divorce. Then
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: heterosexual couples, although there's a little bit of a statistical
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: chinery there, but and then gay couples. Maybe it's not men,
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: just just a possibility. It's the possibility.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, put makeup on me for Halloween and a guy
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: at the bar yelled at me, your makeup looks good
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: as fuck. You killed it. Now I understand how girls
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: feel when someone compliments them. I felt so beautiful. Then
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: he tried to think of me. We've been we've been
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: dating for a few weeks now. She just said my
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: boyfriend's main cup all nice and good, and he felt
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: good about himself. He got a compliment to be with
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: some mam that he met at a bar.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Out fingers. But like, I mean, what what do you
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: he fingered me, like okay, well, he said, heard his ear?
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Did he do his ear? Get his nostril? Like what? Okay? Whatever?
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Stimulation.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: By the way, I think you should take this with a.
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Grain of assault, grain of huge grain.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Of stories, like who knows the sault, because like everyone's
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: trying to like, you get people, they're writing about their
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: personal experiences and they're sharing information. And when you get
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: people do that, there's a tendency for people to try
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: to top each other in terms of their stories and
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: they end up telling tall tales, so you know, fish
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: stories as it were. Anyway, Yeah, okay, Oh, and also
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: what isn't there like a isn't there like an achievement
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: or scoring system and Reddit where you can get like, yeah,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: credit points get Yeah, it's like social credit and like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the more people like what you say, the more of
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that you get. So doesn't that encourage people to like
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: stretch the truth or exaggerate or whatever.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Yes, But I would like to add this that I've
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: noticed sort of a trend between men and women. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: it's not like I'm not talking about straight men and women,
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: but I guess bisexual men and women. Men who are
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: able to do so will go from women to men
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: and they'll describe the incredible relief and joy of being
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: with a partner who shares, are is willing to have
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: taken interest in their interests. Isn't constantly expecting to be
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: the center of attention? Isn't constantly expecting to be served
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and paid for and pampered, and that you know, there's
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: this whole world that opens up in the relationship for
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: his own needs. And then I will go to the
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: other side and women dating women. You know, it's like
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that Bill Burr sketch. I think it was Bill Burr.
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: You know, you don't look, you know, you go to
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: a lesbian bar and look at not the new lesbians,
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: the young ones you haven't been you know, around for
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you know, like five ten years. Look at the old
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: lesbians and they look like they've just they've come back
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: from a tour of noam. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was still funny.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: Based somewhat a little bit.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: And I see the opposite going with women, and then
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: they go with like they'll be like, oh, I can't
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: stand men, and then they'll go and they'll date women,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: and then after like a year, they'll come out and
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: just I have PTSD.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Oh my god.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I understand everything that women men say about women. I
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: understand that frog meme with women on the bottom.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Vincent is basically.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: I am I regret to inform you, and I just
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: I just I just I just wanted to note that difference. Okay.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: When he said Bill Burr said like that gay guys
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: were just so happy, like they're just levitating. Yeah, you know,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: h too happy?
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: All right? All right, that.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: That would that would have a little bit I think
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: being can help with to for them to date someone
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: they met. He got fingered by at a bar, probably.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: The first compliment he's ever had in his life.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Probably that Yeah, probably didn't get compliments like that from
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: even the women around him. But also, I mean, if
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he was willing to run off like that, he probably
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: wasn't really into you anyways. So you're just helping him
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: find his true self.
• 27:22
  Speaker 4: Mm hmmm at least, you know, and some kind of
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: seem to help him figure out his sexuality. Whether it's
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: real or not remains uncertain. I'm leaning possibly probably towards
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: it's not real. However, it is funny, so I'm going
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: to pretend that it is for you. I don't need
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: people in my comments being like you always take things
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: too seriously and think that they were I don't care.
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: It's more fun to go along with things as though
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: they're real. Nothing is an original experience, right, Like, just
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: because someone is making it up doesn't mean it's a
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: made up scenario, doesn't mean it's never happened, so we
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: even have made up I'm going to act as though
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: they're real, because even if it didn't happen to this person,
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: it probably it most likely has happened to someone else
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: at some point.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: So okay, let's get into she's gonna talk about masculinity, masculinity, mascualinity, masculininity,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: cultural commentary.
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: I'm masculine if they're not benefiting from their labor. These
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: guys were flooding, so my boyfriend had to step in,
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: and they're holding up a phone that says tits and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: then it pans to her boyfriend and he is nodding
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: and looking at them and undoing his shirt, and then
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: he flashes them and uh and then they start cheering
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: and being like hell yeah woo. But like, joke's on
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: you here. They they may have been talking to him
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: in the first place. We don't know is this suddenly
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: gay or were they already gay to begin with? Their
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: sign could have been for both of.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: Them, Like what's the fly eraser lady of just using
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: the terms right?
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Right? I mean they could have just been joking around too, though. Yeah,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: they could have just like guys horse around about being gay,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you know, just like they call each other gay, like
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: that's what guys do. It's fun. Of course, we're not
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: allowed to do that anymore because you you know, if
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: you're in the UK or something or Canada, you can
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: get thrown in jail. But but yeah, this is the way.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: But yes, well there's the pronoun thing title, uh whatever
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: it's called.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's as bad as it is in the UK.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: The UK is I think it's definitely worse in the
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: UK and Scotland and stuff. But yeah, I mean, what
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: we're saying is is that guys can't make jokes about
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: being gay with other men generally because women like this
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: activist types will get their panties in a twist over it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is that she's maybe it's just
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: for the sake of the video. All I'm saying is
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: that in this particular scenario, it's entirely possible that no
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: one involved is gay and they're just being funny and
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: he's playing along, and maybe they were trying to get
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend to do it, and then he did it
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: and they said, okay, we'll roll with it, because you know,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: men generally have a better sense of humor than most people.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: So just my two cents on that one.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, let's go.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Maybe they didn't care either her or him. They don't mind.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: They reacted strongly to this. They weren't like mad or
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: upset or anything. They're like, hell, yeah, tits, let's fucking go.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: I don't care who they were on as long as
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: I see them respect. Is it suddenly gay or is
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: it already bisexual? Man?
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: No, I probably just joke.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: So she did get She did include the byes. M Okay,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: she did.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Do you want to go, alpha male, You're going to
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: have the best night of your life. I'll see you
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: at nine pm? Whar that tight red dress? And someone
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: quote tweeted with I legit. Had to reread this several
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: times before I realized it wasn't intended to be a
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: conversation between the beta male and the alpha male. Yeah, yeah, same.
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: That's how this format usually goes, and it works in
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: this scenario as well, Like it's so fucking funny. Beta
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: males are like, where where do you want to go?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: And the alpha male is just like, I'm going to
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: take you out wear that nice dress. I'm you're gonna
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: have the best night of your life. Like, yeah, this.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: Do you get what that that?
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Well I do, I get, And she's she's reinterpreting it
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: as gay. This is pretty wead.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: A lot of people are reading into it, like in
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: their own way.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: So yeah, this is like, this is weak sauce. This
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: is I expect more from rainbow bright rainbow shite. I
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: don't want to eat Okay, yeah, I actually not.
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: I think her her content is pretty like like this.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: It's not that contentious like you know, drama que yells
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: at the camera, manifestel like you know, it was like
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a serpent. But this woman is just sort of like
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: haham queer, look at my hair. Ha, this is funny.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I was on Reddit today. Here's my friend, here's my
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: stuffed animals. Like it's kind of I don't know, it's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: like it's it's it's inoffensive but not productive, Like it's
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: just kind of like there, it's just kind of like
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: a wet noodle. In my opinion, that's a good noodle.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: All right, let's do the final time more than.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Still have stiffness when they're wet.
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, I guess so then yeah, definitely not it's
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: a flaccid pool noodle.
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: So his benefit maybe I don't know. I don't know.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I I hope she knows, or I hope she doesn't know.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: Let her, let her, let her not know, because personalized
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: number plates are fucking expensive and she can just keep
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: driving around. Incent and oblivious plate says, I think I'm
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: to get out of it, and I think that, you know, potentially.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: No not. I thought it would be Why not, Richard,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: you got up your game if you want me to cringe,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Like seriously, this woman, I feel.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Like this event was born out a lie that got
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: it looks like from eighties. Something's cold?
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: What she her hair looks like a my little pony
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: from the eighties?
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Uh so yeah. So here's the the I think
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: this is like really the last one.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, let's go for it. Let's do it.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Okay. So there's like two guys doing a luge thing.
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know the one way you're like lying on
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: a sled thing and going down a ramp, and this
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: one is there's two people and so the one at
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: the bottom is lying real stiff straight, and then there's
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: someone on top of him, like directly on top of him,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: like back to his front, holding on. And the tweet
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: with it is so funny, Like I feel like this
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: is a lie that got out of hand, Like yeah,
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: that's that's yep, that's so fucking funny. It's like when
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: people go to hospital, you realize that the.
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: Humor of this it is really funny.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: But the.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Relies on the taboo around male sexuality with other men.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: That's what it relies on. So she's basically in order
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: to be funny. Otherwise it's just two men doing a sport.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: You know, a lot of sports require some amount of
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: physical content contact between their respective players. But if we didn't,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: if we didn't have any like stigma over over physical
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: contact between men. Uh, first of all sexualizing it, because
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: we sexualize everything that men do.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: But we didn't do men with other men, but with.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: Children and with women and with animals, Like you'd not
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: notice like this constant sexualization of men's behavior in every conceived,
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: conceivable concept context. Mm hmmm. We even excessively sexualize their
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: behavior with well, I mean, like we we'll look at
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: a scenario where a man has like a sex doll,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: and we will frame him in a particular way, and
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: then we will look at the subjectivity of the sex
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: doll as greater than his you notice, like in order
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to frame him as sexually predatory. Right, this is this.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Is the insane Yeah, like why is uh? Right? Now,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: we have this whole thing in the video game space
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: about Collective, which is this feminist activist organization that is
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: basically trying to get video games banned because they're sexualizing
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: women and girls in video games, and they use the
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: most extreme examples of games, but they're really going after
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: all of them. And it comes from the same thing
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: because men, men are the ones that primarily play video games,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: and if they feature women in them, then there is
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: an assumption that there's something going on. Yeah, it's not just.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: The assumption that there's something sexual going on, but that
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: if there's something sexual going on, the man is a predator.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So I want to get back to the like the
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: sex doll example. So you got this lump of silicone
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: in the shape of a woman, and they've got a man,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and they'll look at this like they's feminists like this
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: will look at this, and they will they will create
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: a subjectivity for the doll in order to turn the
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: man into a predator, like a sexual predator. And we
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: do this constantly. We sexualize men. I guess in this scenario,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: it's two men, so which one's the predator? Right, But
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: it's still sexualized and it's like that that men don't
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: get away from that. They're constantly sexualized in this manner,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and it's and it's not the way that men women
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: are sexualized. Women are sexualized as in being desirable. Men
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: are sexualized as being not desirable and criminal. And she's
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: just playing into that right there. I mean, I know,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: it's milk toast. She probably doesn't even think that deeply
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: about what she's saying. It's just two men, two men
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: hugging on a sled, you know, But if you think
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: about it, that's why would why would that be funny
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: unless it's breaking a taboo? And what taboo is it breaking?
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: When this is an athletic event, right, Like this is
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: just two men achieving a goal. They're physically scrunched together.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: But it's because of the physics of the situation, you know.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I mean you could say this same thing about the
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: national sport of Turkey, which is oil wrestling.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, right, sure they have that, Yeah, oil wrestling.
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: It's not supposed to be gay, no, I mean, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: mean we tend to you know, we tend to, especially
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: today these days, we tend to see all loves as erotic,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: so like like we we don't there's different loves, right,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: there's platonic and other kinds, but like these days, it
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: seems like almost front and center is always the erotic love.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: So this is and particular when it comes to the
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: way that we frame it around men, which is why
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: we see, like you said, men around children as a
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: problem because we immediately jump to conclusions about that or
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: men around other women obviously, men men around inanimate objects,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: like yeah, you know so.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: And that makes no sense, Like how can you think
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: that a sex doll has more of a subject You're
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you're you're actually respecting and honoring the subjectivity of a
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: lump of silicone more than a man. It's insane and
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: sort of gross. By the way, That's why this whole
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: discussion around sex dolls, I just look at it and
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what the hell are you psychos on? Because
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: all of the condemnation requires you to believe that the
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: sex doll has some kind of subjectivity greater than the man.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: And it's ridiculous, all right, but anyway, and it it
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: actually says a lot about the people who are calling
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: it out, but ultimately, again this the humor of this
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: only rests on this excessive sexualization of men. I wanted
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: to say something about we've been watching this is another
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Richard request, No Man's Zone, and we've been watching it
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: with the Writer's retreat, and it actually was, like, I
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: think it was a really good request. I don't know
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: why he just dropped the ball with this one, but
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: the No Man's Zone is really fascinating because it's a
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: Russian series, a sci fi series where they examine the
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: possibly like they do what if about the creation of
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: an all female society, although there are some males in
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that society who provide the seed for it to continue,
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: but it's an all that they're really really soy oh
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: else to describe it, but it actually ends up being
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: a real critique of how women do and the things
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: that they engage in. And one of the fascinating things
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: about the second season that we've been watching now spoilers guys,
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: is that the main male character and the main female
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: character who are in a relationship now and she is
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: from this femtopia and he's from an external society that
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: they term the primates because they dehumanize the men, and
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: she is treating him like a sexual convenience because throughout
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: her entire life, she's only ever had any kind of
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: sexual contact with essentially machines, vibrators. And he's having trouble
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: because the leader of Femtopia, the new leader of Femtopia,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: has declared like a genocide upon the primates and he's
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: like freaking out about that, and she's expecting him to
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: continue to service her sexually like a machine, like he
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: doesn't and he's not able to because of course he's
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: under considerable amount of stress about what Femtopia is doing to,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: you know, the people that he came from, and so
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: he's unable to perform sexually, and she's getting more and
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: more pissed off about it because she doesn't understand that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: he's not a sexual convenience like the things that she's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: had sexual relationships with up to this point. Like he's
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: a person. And I thought that was really really on
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: point for what I'm seeing in behavior of women now. Yeah,
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: even like when we finished off that woman the from
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: the New York Times and how she and her friends
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: mocked a man because he did not want to have
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: sex with them, or he said, Wow, I'm too anxious.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, I can't handle having sex with you. Whatever,
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: And they mocked him in public for it because they
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: saw him as a sexual convenience, not a person. And
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: I think that's on the continuum with what she's I know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: this is we're going to deep dive here, guys, we're
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: going we're doing some serious like deep dive squirrel action here.
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: But I think that's on a continuum with what she's doing,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: which is two men. You know, it's it's sexual. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: that's that's what's funny about it, right, It's like, no,
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: it's not you know you are you are actually turning
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: two men engaging in a sport into your sexualizing them
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: because even though you're lesbian, I think apparently you are
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: also infested with the uh men are a sexual convenience
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: mentality and men are our men are entirely defined by
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: sex mentality. All Right, Anyway, I got back. We have surfaced.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: We have we have surfaced in the squirrel submarine.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: All right, So this is the last That was the
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: last bit from that video Squirrel, So I guess we'll
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: get to the other one. Please stick to monogamy.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, sure, all right.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Let's do it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: So, all right, we all live guys calls non binary
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: pals and welcome back to another video. The other day,
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: I was on Twitter as I usually am, and I
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: came across this tweet that made me giggle and made
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: me off because I agree with it wholeheltedly, and that reads.
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: My absolute favorite brand of Reddit story is men posting
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: things like I believe my wife into an open relationship
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: and it turns out she's a very desirable goddess and
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: I'm somewhat of an unfuckable troll. How do I fix
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: my relationship?
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, so now we're into the spice.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: All right, there's a different video, so right, so please
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: stick to monogamy. Uh out on that, but okay, sure, no.
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: It's processed doubt. Also, guys, you might I'm pretty sure
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: men know at this point that opening their relationship is
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: a disaster.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you don't want that, like sometimes I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: think that it's well, there's probably no data on this,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: but I think that generally when you open your relationships,
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: women get more opportunities generally than men. I think that
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: that should be Yeah, that should be obvious. Right, So
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: that's why when they when they say my favorite brand
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: of read as story is men posting things like I
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: bullied my wife into an open relationship. First off, shit,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: that doesn't happen. I don't think men bully their wives.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: Why are you married if you're bullying each other into
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: an open relationship and it turns out she's a very
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: desirable goddess and I'm somewhat of an unfuckable troll? How
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: do I fix my relationship? That just I'm sorry, that
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: just doesn't sound like anything that happens. I mean, that
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it never happens. I'm saying it just doesn't
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: happen as much as these people think because generally women
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: have more opportunities to do that than men, and that
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: has more to do with men's standards than women.
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: So but anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, I honestly
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: have heard more of the stories of a man being
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: on willing to do it and people sure shaming him,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: especially in media. I mean, this used to be a
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: thing about polyamory, like twenty five years ago. They would
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: say stuff like this, and it's like itah, you know
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: that brown is just I think she has like brown
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: on one side. It really doesn't work with the rest
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: of her hair, unless it's a blue, which.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Case she needs to work on the on this side
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: over here. Yeah, I think that is dark, like a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: deep indigo.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, fair enough.
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so funny. Is something so funny and so
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: beautiful about these situations? Like it's horrible but also absolutely hilarious,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: and it happens so much like a ridiculous amount. And
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: it was through this tweet that I learned there was
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: actually an entire subreddit dedicated to that sort of thing exactly,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: which is called ah slash open Marriage Regrets. And I
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: saw that and I was like, oh my god, you
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: know what, pause.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: For a second, I'm going to take a look. Well, no,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: we can actually continue reddit dot com slash ur open
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: marriage regrets regrets. Well, I'm guessing that there's very few.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Uh there's very few women who regret that.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm what I'm thirty five m and I'm regretting
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: having an open marriage with my twenty six f wife. Okay,
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: so edit, for Fox's sake, people, this is my real Okay,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: here we go. Do you have a you I think
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: you can just browse Reddit even if you don't have
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: an account, I know that you got a little bit
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: baffled by Reddit. Yeah, yeah, read it is something worthy
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: of being leery of. I'm jealous of how easy things
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: are with my wife. I admit that this is the
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: worst thing I ever did and regret it the most.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: November twenty twenty four, I brought up the idea of
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: an open marriage with my wife and she was one
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: hundred percent against it. I don't understand why, but now
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I do for some idea of things. I suggest this
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: to spice things up in our marriage, or so I thought,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: But I quickly realized that I was wrong and I
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: could have suggested other things with her and kept our
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: marriage exclusive. Okay, this thing, you know what. I hate
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: to tell you this, but I think this might be
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: fetish material. We don't have kids and I don't plan
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: on it, so we have a lot of time together.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: How do I fix things with her? I don't want
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: to lose her, and I've learned my lesson or have
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: things and in divorce. Okay, I'm white male, six foot five,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: dark hair, and yet I couldn't do the things she could.
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: One night we were at a jazz club and at
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: the bar. I was across the room attempting to make
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: her jealous, but she wasn't even paying attention. What the
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: fuck really? Well, just okay, so this guy is attempting
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: to make her his wife jealous. I was attempting to
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: make her jealous, but she wasn't even paying attention to me.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: As I watched, I seen at least sick at least
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: eight men walk up to her and try to buy
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: her a drink, and she refused all of them. And
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: when we got home, I was embarrassed and upset. I
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: asked for we could end the open marriage thing, and
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: she agreed and told me, now you know that you're
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: not the only man who desires me, and that made
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: me melt at her feet. Now I worship her entire existence. Okay, friends,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: this is fetish material.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: Probably these people are.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: These people are taking fetish material seriously, right, Okay, let's
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: see the second one. I proposed open marriage, but I
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: regret it. Oh till, well, too long, don't read. I
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: don't like that my husband's going out with eighteen to
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: twenty one age skinny girls exclusively since we opened the relationship.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: So we female thirty seven male forty men in college
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: who've always been very much in the same wavelength. Okay,
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: he's very athletic, always has been periodically spent. Okay. He
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: also has a much higher sex drive than I do,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: and he likes to be very rough in bed. That
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: wasn't a problem until recently, but I started having trouble
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: keeping up, keeping getting kinks in my neck and spine,
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: and generally feeling like I've been run over after every
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: session with him. That's the reason I proposed opening the
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: relationship to get some outside help. So he leaves me alone. Wow,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: So he leaves me alone.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's me being insecure, but I
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: regret it because he's been going out with very young
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: women I mean ten, eighteen to twenty one, and consistently
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: very skinny. Never makes comments about my body besides nudging
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: me to work out with him. But I've never been skinny,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: and I can't help but imagine him with them whenever
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: he doesn't come home with me. It gives me a
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: feeling of disgust that he's going after such young girls.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I think it makes me look at him differently. My
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: niece is seventeen now, and I have to worry about
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: him being attracted to her. This is mostly event My
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: feelings come from insecurity about being old and used up,
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if he'll want to back out
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of the open marriage. Now, this is not a real post. Okay, yes,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: do you realize that the thirty five m is probably
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: not a real post either. Let's say, oh, I know this.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: Is actually on our open marriage regret. After years of
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: swinging with couples and my husband watching me with single men,
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: I had my first consensual solo experience, and I don't
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: know if our marriage will recover. So she does it
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: once she's turned out. I'm not going to read anymore.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: I think that this basically frames it.
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is first of all, this is terry picking,
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: because there's apparently women who also regret.
• 52:00
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: Second of all, I think a lot of this is
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: fetish material, so tread carefully if you treat it seriously.
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: But no, let's let's continue with rainbow shites addition to
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: the swamp. It feels more. It feels sort of like
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: she's just spitting into the swamp.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, I mean she's cherry picking this, like
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: you said, like the stuff that she wants to talk about.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Let's jump ahead to the conflict between monogamy or do
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: you want to like listen to more of this's.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Finish this rambles. Okay, you know what, I think. We
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: got a taste of our open marriage. Let's get her
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: opinion all right.
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: Here we are. We are going to take a dive
• 52:39
  Speaker 4: into a slash open marriage regrets, which is exactly as
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: it sounds.
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: Wait, you want me to just jump ahead to where
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: she sort of gives.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: A she gives a conclusion. I know that's some somewhat
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: difficult for her, but hopefully there is a conclusion in
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: this forty seven minutes.
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: Him and then insisted on having an open marriage when
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: I got caught. So now I can't even go to
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: my family's house because my dad is mad at me
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: and won't hear me out. Pretty sure he told some
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: of our common friends the same thing, because they won't
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: answer my texts. I was able to move into an apartment,
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: and now I'm just waiting for things to calm down
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: with my family and for the divorce to be finalized.
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: Oh and I could lose my job soon because someone
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: left some serious bad reviews on the website and now
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: I'm being investigated. So I've been home. I have no
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: one to talk to.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, what's the beginning of this particular anecdote.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: I feel like we've missed some context. Friends, we just
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: got we just dove into the third act.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: Okay, all right, and think about what an open marriage
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: is and what it looks like. Husband wanted an open
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: marriage and is now mad at me for seeing someone.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: Plus update and ongoing issue we haven't we female twenty two,
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: male twenty five have been married for two years and
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: together for almost six, Yet beginning of last year, he
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: told me he has room in his heart for more
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: than one woman and is a man for more than
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: one partner. He wanted an open marriage. It was so
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: hard for me to agree, but the minute I did,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: he started seeing this beautiful, attractive girl. I can't even
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: explain how painful it was to know that I'm not
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: enough for him, that he's spending time with someone else,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: and he did from spending nights with her to text.
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I just want to point out something. Remember what we
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: watched with the one man woman who was like, I
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: want to open the relationship so I can get rid
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: of him, you know, so I don't have to deal
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: with them and I like how this man is like
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: framing it in a more positive way, like, oh, I
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: have more heart, I have room in my heart for
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: more than one woman. Yeah, why people do this to themselves?
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: But whatever. So I'm just wanted to note that it's
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: like the framing is completely different. But that might just
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: be like individual variation. It might it might just be coincidence, Okay,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: all right, I supposed.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: To be spending time together. I'd literally cry myself to
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: sleep every night while he was with her or home
• 54:55
  Speaker 4: after hanging out with her. I even met someone, but
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: I just couldn't open up to that guy because of
• 54:59
  Speaker 4: how much I love my husband. I finally gave in
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: a few months ago. I started letting the new guy
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: take me on dates to his place, et cetera. He's
• 55:06
  Speaker 4: been so good to me, and that's all I needed.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: After feeling like I'm not enough for my husband, I
• 55:09
  Speaker 4: feel attractive and worthy again. This is so it's the
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: same thing, right. It's fucking so sad that these open
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: marriages so often start with these men being like please, please,
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: please please, and like guilt tripping or coercing their partners
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: into agreeing.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Because I think that's reading into it quite a bit.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: He just said I had room in my heart for
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: more than one woman. You could have said, well, go
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: find her.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like you you you can put your foot down.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah if you're if you're if you don't want that,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: because I've like I've been with girls that are like, oh,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: I think I want to see other people, but like
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I want to see you too, and I just be like, Nope,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that's not for me, and that was it. It was over.
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: So you just like just say what you want and
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: that's it. Like you don't want, you don't want to
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: be well if you I don't know. I don't think
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: that open relationships are generally good, and especially for men.
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: It's just like you're just spending twice as much money
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: or more if you're like seeing more women. So you know,
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: See it from the most practical what I said, think
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: of all the time you could be spend gaming instead.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Or just yeah, or just like sleeping. I don't know, like.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: I mean walking the dog anything else, but dealing with
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: another person's bullshit, Like that's the thing.
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: But I don't matter what you're just.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: When you invite another person into your life, you invite
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: another person's baggage and bullshit, like it just doesn't it
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: is inevitable. And but I wanted a zero in on
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: her baggage and bullshit. That guy didn't sound like he
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: pressured her. He's just like, wow, this is who I am.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: How can you judge? It's kink shame right, And and
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: she went along with it. Apparently there's no indication that
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: he pressured her. You just asked, and like you said,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: like Brian said, he could have been just you know,
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: it's not for me, goodbye, or it's not for me
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: if you want to continue this relationship, you're gonna drop that, right.
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: But anyway, let's let's find out what happens now that
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: she's got herself a partner.
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: And side people want these women.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: Opense these men. They love them, they have a life
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: with them. They you know, want to keep being in
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: their lives and having this relationship. So a lot of
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: the time they are going to, you know, make these
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: compromises and be like, Okay, I guess I will because
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: I don't want to.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: That's the same with men.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: And I'm miserable because they've had to pick between you
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: know that or just like not having him at all.
• 57:47
  Speaker 4: And that's like such a difficult and hard thing, and
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: it makes me so sad that these women are in
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: this position, and they obviously, you know, lack a bit
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: of self worth in the sense that like they deserve
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: better than that. And there are people who you know,
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: will be monogamist with them.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: If you don't think it's a matter of better, it's
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: about it's a matter of like knowing what you want.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think I don't know. They're adults.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: You know, you make a choice.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a choice, and they made a choice.
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is that how does this not
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: also apply to men who are have partners, female partners
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: who want to open the relationship. Mm hm, you know
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: that's it's the same thing, except the men have the
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: full force of the state, because you know, we don't
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: have no fault divorce. We have men at fault divorce.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Plus all of the discrimination against men when it comes
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: to family courts and domestic violence and sexual assault law.
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: You know, there's a lot of stuff like men are
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: behind the eight ball in a bigger way than women are.
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: So and nobody wants to talk about that except us. Okay,
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: All right, you want, not someone who wants to be
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: in a polyamor relationship. You do not have to be like,
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong with polyamory. If that is something that
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: is going to work for you, I have nothing against polyamory.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: I've made a whole video about polyamory. If you want
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: more of my thoughts on that, you can go check
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: that out. But like, it is not for everyone. And
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: if someone you're in a relationship with wants to open
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: the marriage, you do not have to say yes. If
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: that is something that makes.
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: You I'm pretty sure you know that.
• 59:18
  Speaker 4: They're making you feel like you have to do it
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: or they got to leave. You just leave if that's
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: not for you.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: It's not a very good example of porsion. I have
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: room in my heart for more than one woman. Okay,
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: that's not really a good example of coercion.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: It's not no right. So, I mean, you literally just
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: have two people that have different ideas on what a
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: relationship looks like, and one of them did not do
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: the work on themselves to figure out that's what they
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: really wanted, and so they regret it and now they're
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: the victim of their own naivete yeap.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: All right, Okay, let's keep going.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: It never ends well one of you isn't into it.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: It never ends well. You may as well save yourself
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: the heartbreak by leaving before it happens. If they don't
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: take no as an answer, it's over right. They should
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: always accept a no. Last month and you guy took
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: me out of town for my birthday weekend. A happy
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: birthday text is all I got from my husband since that.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: It's like my husband suddenly realized that we're married. He
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: wants to spend time together against jealous when I'm not home.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: And now he's saying he wants a baby, which I'm
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: not against, but would like to wait until our relationship
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: is a bit more stable. Well, he disagrees. He thinks
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: that I'm prioritizing my boyfriend over our relationship and family,
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: and that's not what an open marriage is about. He's
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: now wanting to stop everything and go back to being monogamous.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 4: I'm not ready for that. He got to decide when
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: this started. Why does he get to decide when it ends?
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: Why did he wait until I started being happy again?
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: Because he's possessive. That's why he'd want to keep it
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: going forever. If you were keeping to yourself and not
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: sleeping with anyone else.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: Right, yeah, it sounds like she found himself a narcissist.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: But let's keep going.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, maybe there are no Yeah, well wouldn't
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: They also probably be the same kind of people that
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: be interested in open relationships or polyamory.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's why you don't want to
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: get into this. Like, in my opinion, yea, most of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: the people involved in this are going to be on
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: the cluster B spectrum and they're going to be involved
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: because they can't handle an actual intimate relationship. So I mean,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: in going to this community at your peril and yeah,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: men don't. Yeah, it doesn't matter how much you think
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: you want variety. No, okay, yeah, just do.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: It's really not that, it's not really that big of
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: a deal, right, Yeah, these men can't.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 4: These men will want the relationship to be open for
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: as long as they possibly can, as long as their
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: wives are staying loyal only to them. As soon as
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 4: you're sleeping with other people, they don't want to bar
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: it because they are possessive and they view their wives as.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what about the cucks in the cructure?
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: What about the men?
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: I think that. I think that there's also the possibility
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: that this guy made him realize that he didn't want,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: you know, like that he made a mistake and doesn't
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: want an open relationship and he does want this woman
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: to be he wants to be monogamous. I don't know
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: if that was put forward, and maybe she didn't include
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that in her thing, or if Kiwi's leaving it out
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: or whatever, But that's not manipulative to basically be like,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: you know what, I thought, I wanted this, but I
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: don't want this. You know, that's sort of like growing up.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: I guess you know, it's like your preferences change over time.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: So I would not call it possessive. I think that's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: a bit of a unfair ca aracterization. Like if he
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: specifically is saying, well, I should be able to see
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: brown and you shouldn't, then you know you still have
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: an option. It's called walking away if you don't like that.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: But most likely you know that maybe there should be
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: a conversation about monogamy. You know, I know that that's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: not very I know it's very boring in vanilla and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: not cool, but maybe it works, Like I don't know,
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just I know, I don't want to be a
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: stick in the mud saying, you know, maybe you should
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: just stay with one person. But I feel like one
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: person's plenty of work already.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so you know you yourself, like, as an individual,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of work. Yeah right, you
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: know it's in in monogamy is the best place to
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: do that work unless you're in a covent covent or
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: a monastery, you know.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: So it's I.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: Don't know, like it it. I think that the people
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: who truly can handle polyamory wouldn't do it. They would
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: have no need to do it well at all.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you have to ask, like what is
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: the other than just to like what just to be
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: like constantly stimulated. I feel like, I don't know, man,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I think that there's I think that there's more to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: life than that, and I've been around but uh but yeah,
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm done, like a law I'm wave done
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: with that and that's all behind me.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: And you're right, it could be a situation where he's
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: he's now second guessing what's going on because it sounds
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: like she did indeed pursuit.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Well, he wants a baby, likes he's not gonna. I mean,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: I would hope that he's not so like low IQ
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: that he would be like, I'm gonna bring a baby
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: in the world and still be, you know, sleeping with
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: other women. That's ridiculous.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but I don't think this relationship is
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: long for the world, for this world, because no, she
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: has contempt if she can't forgive him for opening the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: relationship and then regretting it. Uh. And I mean, where's
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: the other girl that he's with now? I mean that
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: it's completely uh condensed coincidentally completely unmentioned, but that would
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: be important too. Has she has He's broke it off
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: with her, That's an important detail not mentioned. Okay, let's
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: keep going. Presumably, if she's asking for monogamy, he broke
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 2: it off with the other girl.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: Doesn't he cares that other men perceive you and get
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 4: to touch you.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: You don't understand men at all. Stop talking about them.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: First of all, let's take this.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Let's take this funny, because it's like only men do that.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: Women aren't like that. Women can be possessive too, incredibly like,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: it's not a unique male trait. Even if even if
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: you were telling the truth about that it's not a
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: male thing. So the the way you're painting this picture
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: is like, you know, disingenuous.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's keep going, all right till this weekend
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: to have a talk with my husband about getting a divorce.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: I wanted to think about things before ending this six
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: year relationship. I still took my distance, stopped having sex
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 4: and hanging out with him. I billy talked to him
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 4: since my last post and refused his gifts. So guess
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: what he did yesterday, went to you guys office and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: tried to fight him, yelling and screaming about how you
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: guys sleeps with married women and should be ashamed of himself,
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: making it seem like you guy was helping me cheat
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: on my husband, which is not the case because it's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: open marriage, you guys.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he said, you guys, you got a narcissist,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: this narc behavior. You got yourself a narcissist. This is
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: not the behavior of all men, Rainbow, rainbow bright, it's
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: not the behavior or it's not the behavior of all men.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Not the behavior of all men. Okay, all right, let's
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: keep going.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, be with me, but doesn't want to have to
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: deal with a crazy husband. Slash soon to be ex
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 4: He wants to take a break until I get things
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: figured out with my husband. How am I supposed to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: do that? Though still planning on getting a divorce, but
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: I can't control my husband. Could this be his way
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: of dumping me? We get another update? We got the
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 4: divorce process started right before that, though. My ex husband
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 4: was able to meet with my dad, who's always liked him,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: and told him how I cheated on him and then
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: insisted on having an open marriage when I got caught.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: So now I can't even go to my family's house
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: because my dad is mad at me and won't hear
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: me out. Pretty sure he told some of our common
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: friends the same thing, because they won't answer my texts.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 4: I was able to move into an apartment, and now
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I'm just waiting for things to calm down with my
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: family and for the divorce to be finalized. Oh and
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 4: I could lose my job soon because someone left some
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: serious bad reviews on the website and now I'm being investigated.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: Wait wait, wait wait wait what but how does that
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: relate to this?
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: He's trying to suggest that maybe her ex husband is
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: like posting, like trying to tarnish her character or something
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: I think because it's like a random thing to add,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: or you know, it's a pity party and look, all
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: all the bad things are happening to me all at once.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: Oh no, it's the consequences of my actions. Again, you're
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: the one.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Even if she has found a narcissist or a sociopath,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: that is not all men. And the instant you try
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: to make this all men, Rainbow Bright, you are a bigot.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: This is a subset of men. In the behavior of
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: a subset of men, they exist, but they are not
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: all men.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Well, the question, though, is is that is this the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: kind of man that this woman is attracted to? Because
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: if it is, then maybe this other guy is also
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: going to be a problem, because these are the men,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he could be one
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: of these dark triad men that women find so manly
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: and attractive, and then you know, she manages to basically
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: like make it to where he wants to stay. But
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: she's also seeing other men, and she's going to go
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: out with other men who she also finds attractive. She
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: has a type, So what if this other guy is
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: also that type? So like, she's not out of the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: woods yet because she hasn't figured out like what it
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: is that she's fighting. Yeah, she's not looking at their.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Raw right, telling us all, oh, this is just men
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: is not going to help her. No, not all right,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: this is not all men. And I noticed that this
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: dude has not sicked institutions after her yet because he
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: can't because he's a man. And this is where we'd
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: come in, because if this was a man with a
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: narcissist ex wife, she would be sicking the institutions on him.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: All right, let's keep going.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I've been home this whole week. I have
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: no one to talk to unless I decide to finally
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: ounce on my husband's text. Even you guy hasn't been
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: talking to me. So yeah, that's how my life's going.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: Any advice on how to deal with the loneliness, bro,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 4: this makes me so frustrated, Like men, really, no.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 7: Starting, no, no, no, no, Rainbow Bright, it is not men.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, it's the men that they see.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 4: After having to like guilt someone into opening it in
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 4: the first place, then getting mad when they start acting
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: on that open relationship to the point where you then
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: go and like ruin their life is so fucked up.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: You fucking started it, bro, this was your idea, Think
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: about it. If you want an open marriage, think about
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: what that means. Oh my god, men are horrible. They're
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 4: looking so horrible, Like the fact even went too Hey.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 2: What the fuck?
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: Family? What?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: I froze you once again? That flag means everybody but men,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: everybody but men, and we are going to escapegoat the
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: crap out of men. We are going to frame the
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: behavior of a tiny subset of men as all men. Right,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: who are you without your hatred of men and your
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: scapegoating of men and your condemnation of men? Who are you?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Yep?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: Family against her? That's so fucked The fact how dad
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: won't hear her out is also fucked up. Basically, fuck
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: older men in this story. Oh my god. The problem
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: with so many of the relationships that exist in these
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: stories is that it's non monogamy practiced by people who
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: are monogamous. Does that make sense right? Like most of
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: them aren't really actually trying to have like healthy, non
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: monogamous relationships. It's largely just men who want to sleep
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: with people and don't give a fuck about their wife.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 4: So this is where.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Cher picked Well, yeah, they're obviously cherry picked. Yeah, but also, like,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: what if monogamy was encouraged because it was safest for
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: men and women, and that trying to explore these other
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: options invite a certain kind of person that wants to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: take advantage of that. So, yeah, you may have a
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: problem with men in with the men in your story,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: but maybe those men are because what we're saying is
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: a subset of men, right, maybe the kind of people
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: that would take advantage of that and create the conditions
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: that basically suggest that your version, your version of polyamory,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: is actually unhealthy because it invites people like this into
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: your life and maybe you were if you weren't. Another thing, too,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: is that this woman, when you get involved in any relationship,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: only one works, right, all the people that you date
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: in your life, only one works. If that so this
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: is just a relationship going sour. Guess what, you gotta
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: get up and dust yourselves off and get back out there,
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: or you know, don't, but like you don't. You can't
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: just wallow and self pity and blame half the human
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: race for your poor choices.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So between the ages of eighteen to twenty one
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: women cheat more, and between the ages of thirty to
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: thirty nine men cheat more. Women in their sixties report
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: having a higher rate of infidelity.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: You like cheating on their Oh yeah, sure.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, although the women also in their sixties have their
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: highest rate of infidelity. But then that's probably because but apparently,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 2: let's see, women are more likely to get away with it. Also,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I really doubt that those statistics. Well let's attach women
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: up there.
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  Speaker 1: What if most people, what if most people who say
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: they're they're interested in getting into an open relationships or
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: open marriages or whatever are actually just one of two things.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Either they are just men that are looking to spread
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: their seat as much as possible, and this is just
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: a way to do that while still having a marriage, which,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: by the way, if men want an advantage in the
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: dating world, being married is a big blood plus like
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: wearing a ring that's basically catniped for a lot of women.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: So it would get like there are some a kind
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: of man who would want to be in an open
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: relationship because he's looking to essentially have as sex with
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: as many different women as possible, and that's it. So
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: he's not really in it because he's interested in treating
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: everybody in that equally, but just because he wants to
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: like play the field still while still having someone that
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: he can come home to, which sounds selfish and all,
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm saying like, if open relationships and open marriages exist,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: there's probably a decent subset of people that are doing
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: that that have that mindset. And in the women's side,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: it's hypergamy, like they're with a guy and then they're
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: seeing other guys and then maybe they'll change their mind
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: about polyamory when they find the right guy that they
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: can like level up to write. So you got so this.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: I think this is why younger women cheat more because
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: there's more opportunities for vertical like and you know, advancement
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: in like relationships. You see, find a guy who's got
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: more older, more mature, higher status, whatever, so I'm just
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: gonna cheat with him because I'm like eighteen, I don't
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: know shit. And then the men who cheat more often
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: when they're in their thirties, it's basically the whole like,
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: oh shit, I'm running out of time here. Let me like,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you know, see get some more action. Plus, men that
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: age are generally more attractive because they have more resources,
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: they've had time to build up, you know, some status,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: and so they can be more attractive to younger women.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: So just throwing it out there, but again not making
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  Speaker 1: generalizations about a whole gender. I'm talking about the subset
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: of people that are most interested or would be more
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: inclined towards being open to these kinds of life like
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: polyamorous relationships. Right, how would they benefit. I think women
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: do it through hypergamy and men through spreading their seed.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: So mm hmm, okay, let's uh, let's finish this off.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it was only a little bit left.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 4: But we end up like polyamory can be such a
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 4: good and healthy relationship system and relationship style, and I
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: want out to so many people.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: I don't think so, I think that there's cope here.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I think that most of the time they either end
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: a disaster or they end in monogamy. That's usually how
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: I think it goes. So you do it for a
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: little while, usually if anything, it just ends up becoming monogamous.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: They just oh, you know what, I think, I just
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: want to stay with you and that's it, or ends
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: in disaster. There was a story of a polycule I
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: remember this on the news while back. I'm sorry, I
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: don't remember the names of anybody involved. But there was
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: a video I think they did, like a spot on
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: like some news show, and it was like a woman
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: with like three dudes and the woman was pregnant with
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: one of the babies, one a baby by one of
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: the men, and they were on there talking about how
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: great it was that they were in this polychule and
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: they were all friends and everything, and then like I
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: think at some point, one of the men killed that
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: woman's baby because it was from another dude and it
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: was a disaster, and I and they were all like,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: you know, but but like I remember that they were
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: all they were. They weren't the they weren't that attractive.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: They were pretty like you know, they were like goblins,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: like all of them. But like goblins, they need a
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: society to so it's okay. But when that ended that way,
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: you know, I wasn't all that surprised. Like I found
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: out one of the guys killed this woman's baby, and yeah,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: it was like, well, yeah it wasn't his. He thought
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: what I think he thought it was, and it turned
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: out not to be so well, okay.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: But here's the other thing, Like the individuals were, I mean,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: what kind of dude is going to be part of
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: a pollocule with three other men. You know, there's going
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: to be issues. I always see this, like I always see.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: This, Oh, I know, I know it's what I'm saying.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: Like this, someone is always a psycho, right.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, probably a couple of them. That's why I'm
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: saying when she says it's perfectly healthy, this is cope
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: because I'm telling you very Okay, I'm not going to
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: say it can't happen, but I think it's very very
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: few people could manage it. And most of the time,
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: probably ninety nine percent of the time, these things end
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: in either monogamy, which is probably the most common way
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: it goes well, we or you know, maybe like an
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: opportunity to do it was didn't even come up unless
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: you're like part of the you know, like the Hollywood
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: elite Moloch cult, where they probably do share you know,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: each other's like partners. But or it just ends in
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: a disaster like it just doesn't like a big crash
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: out breakup where you know, and I think that that's
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: I think that we can look at that and say,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe this doesn't always work, maybe it mostly
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: doesn't work. Maybe that's not the normal state of people.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: You know, and it's an outlier. And I think that
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: people like this, they want to treat every choice, every lifestyle,
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: every identity as equal, like, oh, it's all of us,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: it's all good, it's all fine, right, And I don't
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: think that's I think that's kind of a false bill
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: of goods to sell people.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, it definitely is, Like I honestly, I don't
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: even when I look at, for example, the polygamist Paul,
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: like Mormon communities, like the stuff that they do is
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: also and that's probably the most stable arrangement, and yet.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: They still have to multiple wives.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, multiple the sister wives, but then they also have
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: to do things like they kick their sons out of
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: the community. Any surplus sons are basically dumped on the side.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: Of the road.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: And then the other thing is I'm listening to the women.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: I mean it's like, well, they're definitely not.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: But you know, I'm listening to this and I'm listening
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: to the women talk about this, and they talk about
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: all the benefits of having the sister wives and sharing
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: things and how you know they're they're okay with it.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: And one woman was like, well, I was fine with
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: sharing him because I don't I never fell in love
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: And it's like, wow, okay, so everything's a business proposition.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: But here's the other problem. How much? And they're talking
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: about how the wives have to get used to the
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: fact that they're time sharing a man, right, and so
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: they don't get as much time as they want. And
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking, I don't give a crap about the adult
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: women in this scenario. What about his kids, right? How
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: can you possibly how can these kids possibly have enough
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: fathering to become emotionally and morally independent adults. And the
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: answer is they don't. They don't have enough one on
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 2: one father time to develop normal levels of emotional and
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: spiritual and social independence. That's why these cults continue because
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: they can replace what a father would give these children
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: with the cult behavior of the community, inculcation into the cult.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: And it's like, and the thing is that they will
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: target the men who are on the top of these cults,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: and what will happen is they'll get rid of them
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: and the women will find a new dude. Because this
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: is driven by the women, and it's driven by incredible selfishness.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: Selfishness in the women. They didn't even none of them
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: even said they were like, oh yeah, sometimes we have
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: we have to you know, timeshare a man, which means
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: we get a little less of him than you know,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: we would whatever, right, never occurred to them, what about
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: your children? What are your children getting? And it was
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: it was like listening to them, it was just despicable
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: and and of course they don't care about their children.
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 2: I mean some of them eventually left because some of
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: the women left were at least one left because she,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: you know, her children were gonna be taken from her
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: and trafficked around the community, and she didn't want to
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: see that. She'd only noticed at that point. She only
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: noticed that the children are a commodity at that point,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: not when, no doubt, you know, her community was kicking
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: out her sons, or her neighbors sons, or her sister
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: wife's sons. Only when her daughters were going to be
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: trafficked somewhere was oh, oh, oh, oh, this community treats
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: my children like commodities. Just suddenly noticed that. You didn't
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: notice it when your kid gets like ten minutes with
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 2: his father every two months, like, oh shit, that seems
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: a little bit detrimental to the growth of my child.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 2: And I'm listening to these people justify their bullshit, and
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: it's astounding and it continues because nobody hammers the women.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Nobody looks at the Mormon, the women in these Mormon
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: communities and say, you are selfish baby mamas. You are
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: no different than ghetto than the ghetto, no different in
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: your actual concern for your children than a bunch of
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: baby mamas in a ghetto. Oh oh god. Okay. Now,
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: polyamory is one thing, and that is the most like
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: the poly polygny or polygua polygony of Mormon communities is
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 2: probably the most stable form of any of this. And
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: it's like, there's a reason why monogamous societies are the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: ones that generally achieve more because we're not just like
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: just don't even just just don't even go there, just
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 2: like make sure the kids have enough father time, and
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: you get you get much but much better output. Let's say,
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna get off my podium
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: here about this.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: Well that was basically the end. So okay, I got an.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna defend this guy. He sounds like a
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: certified psychopath or of narcissist, but he does not represent
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: all men. And that is a problem that she's basically saying, oh,
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: this guy's all men. No, he doesn't even represent all
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: men legally, right, because you could say that women's powers
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: in a relationship granted to them by the legal system
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: means all women are like that. It's not that all
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: women will use those powers detrimentally, it's that all women
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: have them and men, you know, there's no way that
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: a man can not be in a relationship with a
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: woman who's empowered by the legal system by feminist nonsense
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: when it comes to domestic violence and sexual assault, there's
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: no way. Like I recently had this argue or discussion
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: with groc and I found out that feminists, after the
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: mandatory arrest laws came in, that they demanded the mandatory
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: rest laws came in, and the arrests of women shot
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: up like a fourteen fourteen because police were forced to
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: now arrest the female abusers that they used to let off,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: you know, so they started arresting them. And then the
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: feminists were like, no, wait, what what And instead of
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 2: going back to the statistics and saying, well, well, maybe
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: those maybe the conflict statistic tables were accurate and were
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: genuinely reflecting reality, they noped out of all of it,
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: like that the all of the statistics that said that
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: men and women are equally violently said, no, oh, this
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: isn't confirmation of that. No, this is confirmation that the
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: police are biased against women. So they instituted all kinds
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: of policies and oversights, and it was based on this
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: study that found only twelve percent of women were falsely accused,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: whereas studies have been looking, like looking into the situation
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 2: for men, and for example, a man who is abused
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: is more likely to be go to jail based on
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: a false accusation by his abuser than she is. So
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 2: men are horribly biased against male victims of domestic violence,
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: are horribly biased against in the system initially and further
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: biased against bi feminist policy. And it's like this is
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: something that men cannot get away from. They can't say, well,
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: you know what, I just won't date a female narcissist. Well, unfortunately,
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: no matter what woman you date, she's still gonna have
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: the same powers, the same legal empowerment. So that's a
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: different that is a very different than what she's doing.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 2: She's saying all men are like this, right, they're not,
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: And that is an incredibly nasty thing to say about men. Okay,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: all right, let's do it.
• 1:28:30
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• 1:28:34
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• 1:28:42
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• 1:28:58
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• 1:29:02
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• 1:29:05
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• 1:29:08
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• 1:29:15
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• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:30
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• 1:29:36
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• 1:29:42
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• 1:29:48
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• 1:29:51
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• 1:29:54
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• 1:29:57
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• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: meet up next weekend, not this weekend, but next weekend.
• 1:30:03
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• 1:30:08
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• 1:30:10
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• 1:30:17
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get over there. All right, We're gonna go on
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  Speaker 1: murder mission now and I'll see you guys in a
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  Speaker 1: little while.
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  Speaker 5: Name things that really do make you a better feminist
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  Speaker 5: than everybody else. Vamega published eleventh number one. Being a woman.
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  Speaker 5: You can be a very powerful, alive to feminist even
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  Speaker 5: if you are male, But you are never fully going
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  Speaker 5: to get the female experience because women are the group
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: of humans who are oppressed under patriarchy as a class,
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  Speaker 5: and men are the dominant group of humans in that system.
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  Speaker 5: Women are the ones who must lead to the movements
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  Speaker 5: towards their own liberation. Being a woman is central for
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 5: being a feminist because feminism is a movement that is
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 5: by and for women, while men are also impacted negatively
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: by patriarchy. Recalinity stucks two. In the end, it is
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  Speaker 5: men who have always benefited from it and women who
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 5: have suffered under it. That's the hands of men. The
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  Speaker 5: best way to support the feminist movement as a man
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 5: is to challenge other men male privilege, male entcagement, and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 5: male violence. In fact, this is a great help and
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  Speaker 5: saves us the time of having to constantly be explaining
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  Speaker 5: to every single man we beat why we are not
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: actually sex toys. You could do all this without calling
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 5: yourself a feminist and show don't tell boys. Number two.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: Understanding of feminism is not a feeling or an identity
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 5: about a political movement. Feminism is not about wearing a
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 5: T shirt that's testing your feminism. It isn't about saying
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: you're a feminist just for the sake of saying it,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: even if we have no interest in liberating women from
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: patriarchal oppression.
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  Speaker 1: It's okay to.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 5: Be new to feminism and to be learning. You don't
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 5: have to know everything about the movement in order to join,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 5: but you do have to understand that it is not
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 5: a malorable word, a logo, or remarketable product. No one
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: would ever say socialism is whatever you make of it.
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 5: You do you bro what well, because that is stupid
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  Speaker 5: and also factually incorrect. If you think that objectifying women
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 5: or strict harassment or male entitlement or gender stereotypes or
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: sexualizing violence against women is good and okay, who aren't
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 5: a feminists taking a selfie or getting married or wearing
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: STI letters or making a bunch of money. It's not
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 5: a great to feminism. Yes, feminists are a how to
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  Speaker 5: do these things? See how that works? Because feminism isn't
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 5: about you as an individual feeling personally good or empowered
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 5: in the moment. Who can feel empowered, but that doesn't
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 5: necessarily produce feminism. Similarly, feeling good which does not in
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: creater empowerment. Empowerment in the context of feminism, in social
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 5: empowerment for a group of marginalized people, in this case women.
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  Speaker 5: This is why, for example, posing newd and feeling sexy
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 5: in a fashion or porn magazine might feel good for
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 5: the individual doing it. They will receive positive reinforcement, feel attractive,
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 5: profit financially, et cetera, but does not constitute empowerment as
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 5: it does not lift up women as a class. Number three,
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 5: cutting out this anti intellectual bulljet. OMG, you guys. Thinking
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 5: is not a bad thing. Of course you don't need it.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: Agree to do feminism sh but that by the same token,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: all this fuck your ivory tower ideology fuck fairly, fuck yeah,
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  Speaker 5: stuff is counterproductive and ignorant. There is no activism without ideology.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: Ideology is the body of ideas that frames a political movement.
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  Speaker 5: We need that otherwise, how the fact do we know
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: what we're doing? What's that we're just taking selfish and
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: shouting into sectionality at each other on Twitter. Good then
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: fuck ideology, fuck movements. Fuck yeah. Likewise, understanding the history
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 5: of the movement is a good thing. It shows me
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 5: don't reinvent the wheel over and over again. It en
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 5: shows me, don't ReadWrite history, effectively raising the work in
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 5: activism of thousands and thousands of women who fought for
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: the rights as we enjoy today. Understanding how to think critically,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 5: understanding feminist ideology, understanding feminist history. These things are not
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  Speaker 5: for snobbish elites. These are these These are things that
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  Speaker 5: are foundational. Otherwise we achieve nothing and we are left
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: blind screaming sluts power into their virtual bits. Education in
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 5: academia are not bad things. They are good things. They've
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 5: been made inaccessible to so many people throughout the world
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: and or have left many of us with the crippling debt.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: But education is not the problem. The system is free.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 5: Post secondary schools of feminist issue hashtag it m o
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  Speaker 5: athore understanding that feminism is not about being politically correct.
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  Speaker 5: Please don't misunderstand beyond this one. Being a feminist means
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: one must be thoughtful about one's words and actions. Saying
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: and doing whatever the fact we want, whenever we want
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  Speaker 5: is selfish, irresponsible. But our efforts to avoid being self
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 5: indulgent offensive teenagers need not lead to political correctness. Being
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  Speaker 5: a feminist means you think critically about the world around you,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 5: taking nothing at face value. When you question the status quo,
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 5: you tell the truth, even if that truth makes people uncomfortable.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 5: Change makes people uncomfortable. Questioning dominant ideology makes people uncomfortable.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 5: Being politically correct means making sure you don't pass anyone off.
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  Speaker 5: It means you tell the party line. That party line
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 5: might well be a progressive or liberal party line, by
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  Speaker 5: even be a party line that some have deemed feminists,
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: but it's still a party line. The moment you stop
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 5: thinking of yourself, start repeating mantras or pairs, repeat without
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 5: thinking about whether whether or not the manter actually makes sense,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 5: stop being brave, stop questioning the ideology and messages behind
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  Speaker 5: the popular discourse is the moment you become not an
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: agent of change but a lemming. So many feminists to
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: day are scared to say it at the controversial and
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: it's depressing as the fuck. Young feminists are afraid to
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: speak out question popular discourse lest they be labeled to
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 5: bigots or some version of foub Instead of pushing back,
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  Speaker 5: we've become pushovers. Dissent is a good thing. Your ability
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 5: to think for yourselves into question the ideas that our
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 5: soul to be correct is critical. Fuck being politically correct?
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: Wow?
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 5: Why number five not being agist? At what point did
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: ageism become acceptable in feminism? Oh right? Third wave? Okay,
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 5: so we understand that rebellious teenagers want to you're not
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 5: my real mom, slam's door. They're elders, But we are
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 5: not rebellious teenages. We are adults and if you are
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: a feminist, it is unacceptable to make second weave an insult.
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 5: There is some women hating anti feminist ages garbage, and
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: if you want to pull that shit, congratulations your doing patriarchy.
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  Speaker 5: Keep your ignorance and keep perpetuating sexist notions as women
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  Speaker 5: than women who are no longer youthful. Our silly, old fashioned,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 5: brutish fundin undies clutching that pearls all the way to
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  Speaker 5: the old folk's home where they can stick to bringer.
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  Speaker 5: But know that you are no feminist. Oh no movement
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 5: women no more than you do. We aren't going anywhere
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 5: without them. Thematics not accusing feminists of hating sex and men.
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  Speaker 5: Like its matting, women are allowed to hate men and sex.
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 5: Hating men and sex is perfectly natural. Men and sex
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 5: with men has been a source of trauma for countless
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 5: women over centuries. It is also perfectly natural to love
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 5: particular men and enjoy having sex. One of these realities
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 5: are things that sho be used by feminists to insult, attack,
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: or dismiss other feminists. By accusing feminists who challenge male
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  Speaker 5: violence of hating sex or hating men, you are reenforcing
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 5: heteronormative garbage and feeding into stereotypes that say feminists are
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 5: just angry because they aren't getting fucked enough. These tropes
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 5: are connected to rape culture. Is the idea that men
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  Speaker 5: can fuck women into passivity or fox them straight. Is
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 5: the idea that really fuckable women at real women. The
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 5: idea that women need men in order to be old
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  Speaker 5: beings into matter they only exist in ragian to men.
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  Speaker 5: These are anti feminine ideas. Whether or not a woman
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 5: likes men or sex has no bearing on her wealth
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 5: and whether or not her life ideas, word or activism
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  Speaker 5: has meaning. What feminism fights against is the very idea
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  Speaker 5: that women's relationships to men are what make them visible
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  Speaker 5: and valuable as humans. It's similar to attacking a woman
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 5: by saying she's ugly. Women dodges to be looked at
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 5: for to fuck men. They get to exist all on
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 5: their own. Take or lesbophobic sexism back to the MRA forum.
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: They love their.
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  Speaker 8: Mm hmmm.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: Number seven. Not being an MRA speaking of ms you
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: know what definitely makes you a better feminist than everyone else.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 5: Fighting for women's rights, not men's rights, and by that
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 5: I mean rather than fighting for the rights of men
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: who want to pay pay for blow jobs. Try fighting
• 1:40:48
  Speaker 5: for women's human rights, which include the ability to pay
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 5: rent and feed themselves without having to provide men with
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 5: blow jobs. And often overlooked but pivotal aspect of feminism
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: is the idea that women are human. That's right, we're
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: radical like that, and because we are human, we deserve
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 5: things like food and water and housing. Can we all right?
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  Speaker 1: We're back or we're starting, depending on how you look
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: at it, and welcome to the show. This is continuation
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: or the part two? Was this ring really cursed trad
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: thoughts slap fights on Twitter slash X. So we're gonna
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: be looking at let me get the original tweet post
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  Speaker 1: whatever they call it. So if you are unfortunate enough
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: to be on X, you might have seen this going around.
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Then there is this conservative commentator I kind of hesit,
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: hate to say it, but her name is Sarah Stock,
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 1: and she made a post on X simply titled or
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 1: it just says I won, And it's a picture of
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: her hand with an engagement ring on it in a
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 1: field of flowers. And this started a flame war amongst
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: all of the traad thought women on X. I don't
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: know if you know, but Sarah Stock was. I believe
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  Speaker 1: this woman she kind of like came out of nowhere.
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  Speaker 1: She was on a Jubilee episode and she was part
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: of one of those like panels which is like, you know,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: one person versus twenty. It was like one versus twenty.
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  Speaker 1: You ever seen those, Alison, I think we had a
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 1: video on it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean I know of them. I probably couldn't
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: know more about them, but yeah, I know of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. She basically like was a part of one of
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 1: those one of those panel discussions, those like twenty verses,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: and I think that she was on like it was
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: like Sam Cedter was the guy in the middle, and
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: she was one of the people who confronted him. I'm
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: bringing that up because so we know, like why anyone
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 1: gives a shit about what this woman says because she
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: was a blonde, white woman that is right wing and
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 1: I don't mean like in a normal conservative way, but
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: kind of like one of these dissident right like paleocon
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: types that has basically like risen up in the last
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: like five six years or so. Uh. And so that's
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: her whole thing, right.
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  Speaker 2: And.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: There is a lot of fracturing, a lot of infighting
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: going on on the non left. That's why I call
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 1: it the non left, because they're all they like, they
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: don't they don't know what they stand for. They're they're
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 1: fighting each other about what it should look like. And
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: because there is no unified force, it's just like everybody else.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: So anyway, she made this post and it caused a
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: lot of a stir. Now I don't know what the
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: timeline is. Most people appear to be like just generally
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: happy for her to see you know, uber soy says
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: powerful glad. I'm the husband, so I guess this is
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: the guy. Congrats, marriage is amazing. That's Charlie Kirk, Rachel Wilson, congratulations.
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: So yeah, most people are fine. But then, like, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, was this what you sent me? Is this
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: an order? Do you want to talk about this? I mean,
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: I see this as a flex basically, but yeah, it's
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: a flex.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 2: We can get into that in just a moment. Again,
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: I want to remind everyone Feedbadger dot com slash just
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 2: the tip. You want to send us a comment and
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: a tip, talk about what we're talking about. I know
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 2: this is what's on everybody's lips, and I figure it's
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: maybe a good to look at because it sort of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: illustrates something. Women on the right part of the spectrum
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: aren't necessarily men's friends, and they are still in that
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: sphere where things are defined by competition with other women,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 2: which doesn't mean like women who criticize other women aren't
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: necessarily pro male. Now that sounds like a maybe that's
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: a controversial thing to say. And in terms of this
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: particular tweet, I'm not gonna say that. You know, like
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: Sarah Sauk is a bad person. But honestly, she had
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  Speaker 2: to know that she was getting on the highest ground
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: in the vicinity. You know, she's on getting onto the
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  Speaker 2: mound and saying come at me, bro to all of
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 2: the women on Twitter. Now some of them are just like, oh, congratulations,
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: but this is a challenge. And when she says I won,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: what did she win? Right? This is a challenge.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: Now.
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  Speaker 2: I mean personally, I wouldn't be like I probably would
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: have congratulate related her, you know, I mean it's not
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: really my thing, Like I don't like to throw things
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: out in public like this necessarily like personal stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And uh, but I mean I certainly wouldn't flock in
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 2: and start fling slinging mud, which we will see when
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: you look at the retweets, Brian. But on the other hand, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't like she did go into this with a
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  Speaker 2: competition mentality, like what did she win and who did
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: she win as opposed to other women, And I understand
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: like the desire to do it, because there's so much
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 2: pushback against seeing women who get married as actually having
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: achieved something rather than and just being duped into something.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 2: So there's there's that, there's that element. But when you
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: throw your hat in the Twitter ring this, you know
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: this will result in it and of course.
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  Speaker 3: That you know.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: It's it's interesting to look at it because again, women
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: who judge and criticize other women don't necessarily care about men.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: And I think that there's some merit to what Pearl
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 2: ends up saying. But we'll get to that. So let's
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: look at the retweets and have a look.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 1: So it's just the uh let me see, h are
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 1: you talking about this one? Yeah?
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: Go back to go back to her es. Yeah you can.
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  Speaker 2: You look at look at the three dots. Look at
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 2: the three dots. Up up up, go up up up
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: up up. See that the three dots there? Yeah? Uh
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: view post engagements.
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  Speaker 1: You know, no idea.
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  Speaker 2: There you go.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So every trad simp seen this post. It
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 1: should have been me, not him, please be Indian from
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: the slums of Mubai. So they're trying to like, Okay,
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: this is what I've been talking about. Look up for them.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: Pause those big hands. I guess pearl pictured wedding ring,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: not pictured the man.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean to be honest that that is that.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: She does have a point. However, I would give Stari
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: Stock some leeway because that was a ring that her
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 2: fiance made her, and she got the diamond from her grandma,
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: so it was something that was very personal. Yeah, and
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: then you know, and but of all of the criticism,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: I think Davis's criticism is probably the most on point.
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  Speaker 2: M He's making this about competition with.
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Other women women when one of them posts an engagement
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  Speaker 1: picks cats fighting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah look at that.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, here we go. That's small ass ring.
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  Speaker 4: L m A.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's that's what it became about, like the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: size of her ring. Even though the ring was very personalized,
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: like she her fiance made it for her, which is
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I think that's pretty exceptional. I probably know personally,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: I probably would have emphasized that, but maybe with a
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: picture of the forging of the ring, you know, make
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: it into an epic. But but yeah, that's uh but yeah,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 2: so a whole bunch of other other women swanned in
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: and talked about.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 1: How her God yeah, miss Cherry Perez, I just want
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: to show off my ring since everyone is raging about
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: ring sizes off her ring.
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So then it becomes about a competition between women
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: over which one of their partners is. Oh, and here
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 2: we go. We got the feminist piping up.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Rowena, A lifetime of servitude is not winning, sweaty.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 1: But you'll find out in due time, like most wives
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: eventually do. Okay, so very supportive.
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like in honestly again, time use studies, and I've
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 2: done multiple analyzes of them using rock Uh so they
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: will you know, for example, the research will present a
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: particular faucet of time use studies. But time use studies
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: don't include difficult tasks like major repairs around the house,
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: mechanical repairs. I don't think that they I also don't
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 2: think they include like small appliance repairs, so computer repairs
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: or anything like that, which are things that are commonly
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: done by men and so I got. I actually drilled
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: down into those studies on time use, and first of all,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: it's only even the ones that don't look at the
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 2: full picture of everybody's time use. Even those ones still
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: find that it is a pretty small difference between what
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: women do and what men do in Western countries, like
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 2: maybe half an hour a week in favor of women.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 2: But when you start drilling down into the studies and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: you ask things like, okay, well, add in all of
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: the major repairs, all of the small appliance repairs and
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: mechanical work that men do. And then you say, okay,
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: add in the commuting time, which is something else that
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: it doesn't include, all right, and then add in the
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 2: amortization of workplace deaths. So for the most part, when
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: men are working, they're working very different jobs than women.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 2: They're working dangerous, uncomfortable, incredibly stressful jobs. So what I
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: did is I said, groc Okay, estimate how many years
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: men lose to stress based based just stress based illnesses,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: not just the total amount that men live less than women,
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: but just stress based illnesses due to jobs, and Groc
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: estimated about one to two years. I think that's per
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: man And then we amortize that one to two years
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: over the working life of the average man. And what
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 2: ended up happening is when you include everything, excuse me,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: the types of repairs that men do, so the whole
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: scope of the domestic stuff that men do, the whole
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: scope of the commuting, and the whole scope of what
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: men lose to be primary providers, the gap in hours
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: drastically shifts in favor of men. So men are now
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: doing ten hours away week more than women when you
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 2: include in all of those factors. And yeah, so honestly,
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: a husband is a really good investment for a wife.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know if we really want to look at
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: it in those terms, but certainly we shouldn't think that
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: she's losing out. And it gets even better if she
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: stays at home, because stay at homes, stay at home wives,
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 2: and this is all stay at home wives, even those
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: with children, work half as much as every other person
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: in society. Now, I'm not going to say that that
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: isn't worth it to the families that do it right,
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 2: that's their choice. And maybe they prefer an unstressed woman
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: who's who is the primary character for the children. That's
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 2: their business. But there is no way you can frame
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 2: that as some kind of horrible imposition on women when
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: they are gaining an extra twenty five hours a week
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 2: to do with as they will. That's not an imposition,
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: nor should it be framed as such. So this feminist wrong.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 2: I should have just said that it's wrong.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: In short, she is wrong, right, she is wrong? All right?
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: Uh so Nofir here, and I think this is a
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: woman says friendly reminder to book a manicure appointment for
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: your girlfriend before you propose. So this is like a
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 1: very like backhanded comment about the ring because she's showing
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: off her hand too, And of course Nofir has words
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: about her manicure. I guess Pearl again retweeted and said,
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 1: hottest right wing egirl taking off the market, couldn't. And
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: when I think, honestly, Sarah Stock being the hottest right
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: wing egirl, that's just kind of like she was in
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: fashion for a little while, because she was on Jubilee
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: like twice, and she said like the most like you know,
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: I guess base things according to the paleocons. But even
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: like even then, like I don't, I wouldn't, I don't know,
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't call her the hottest but anyway hottest right
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: wing egirl taking off the market. Conservative women will always
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: use their marriage and family to build their brand, and
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: I think I think there's some truth to that. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: Rachel Wilson defends her. She says, instead of congratulating her,
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: their idiot basement dwellers telling her to log off the internet.
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: The people who are supposed to be right wing traditionalists
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: who want to see the return of family are pestering
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: her and telling her to get off the internet. Are
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: you guys stupid? And most of those are women. So
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: I know that she says basement dwellers, but I don't
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: think that that means men.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean no, I mean it's not the
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 2: most egregious of things to ever for a person to
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: have ever done. It's definitely not the most egregious of things. However,
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: this is maybe get off the violence because we're gonna
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 2: get Yeah, however, there is some room for comment and criticism.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: I think, not as much as she did get. But however,
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: she did, you know, find the highest ground in the
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 2: vicinity and basically say come at me, bro.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, no, I get it's a flex
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying like she's like, this is this
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: is like social media call of duty for women. She
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: got like, you know what do they call it, like
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: a multi kill or something, you know, like a like
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: a quintuple kill. And she's sharing the highlight on her
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: page to flex on the other women, and some of
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: them are reacting poorly because this is intersexual competition. Yeah
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: expression whatever, right, Yeah, some of them are going to
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: react as jealous trad thoughts, and some of them are
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: going to react as angry feminists. Most of it is,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: most of the negativity is other women, though, I mean
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: most of the men are either indifferent or they're joking
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: about the fighting. Yeah, what I've seen, so it is
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 1: just women.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: So okay, yeah, it's it is It is mostly women. Also, yeah,
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's I don't think it's deserved.
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 1: Certainly not this and so small Zintani.
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 2: This is like this is I think that again, Pearl
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 2: has the most on point criticism. But at the other hand,
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: we're dealing with an entire society that just marginalizes women
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: marrying men and treats them like dupes and instead of
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: having actually achieved something. So I can understand it that
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: she wanted to be like, no, I've achieved something. I've
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: I've done something that's worth celebrating and worth being lauded for.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: So I get that, like a personal style wouldn't do it.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: But but you know, like it's not of all the
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 2: unwholesome things on the internet, this is one of the
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 2: least unwholesome guys. And a lot of this criticism is
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 2: just absolutely bitter and oh for sure and just ridiculously
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: so like why is it so small? So what is
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: this engagement ring shaming? Like we got this the small
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 2: penis shaming, and now we got this this small engagement
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 2: ring shaming. Is this the new thing? Now the new bullying? Yeah? Actually,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 2: going back, there was one that I wanted to do.
• 1:58:56
  Speaker 2: Oh god, oh good lord, what this one?
• 1:58:59
  Speaker 1: Or in these days only want to get married, I
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: don't want to be wives.
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 2: Okay, So there was a little bit of pushback from
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: from individuals who are more on the right end of
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: the spectrum. I mean, it's something to consider.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: Well, that's it's a common thing that like there's a
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: saying that women want weddings, but that doesn't mean they
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: want to be wives. You know, because when you know
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: that a wedding, you're the center of attention for it's
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: your whole day. You've ever seen those like what do
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 1: they call them? The reality show with the housewives that
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: are like planning their wedding or not housewives, but they're
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 1: like the oh brides something brides, I forget what it's called,
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 1: but they like throw tantrums, you know over Bridezilla mm
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 1: hmm yeah.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 2: And I mean she did put a post where she said,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 2: is there a married women? Is there anything you'd want
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 2: to consider about? Tell me about your marriage day? And
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 2: it was on her actual timeline, and I basically said, well,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 2: you're marrying a man, not a ceremony. But that's about it,
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, not that, not that it necessarily would
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: that she's necessarily doing that, but just that that's about all.
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: I all the advice I can give on weddings. All right?
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 2: So h So that was pearls Now. Let's uh, let's
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 2: take a listen to that other individual that I sent you.
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: Let me get her names.
• 2:00:32
  Speaker 1: I got the links? Ready? Is it this one? When
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: to be hater? Okay? I think so Emily gold Digs
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: America unmarried best friend who is apparently a makeup America
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: hot again. Representative decided to make a video detailing all
• 2:00:47
  Speaker 1: of the possible reasons to hate on other women's engagement rings.
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 6: You could basically have a degree on how to be
• 2:00:52
  Speaker 6: a hater at this point, so let me share some tips.
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 8: When to be a hater, specifically the rules of engagement ring.
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 6: No, I don't have a ring, so I'm allowed to
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 6: to be a hater. And yes they do send your
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 6: engagement pictures around to my friends and like usually talk shit.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 6: Sometimes you deserve but it anyway. Rule number one, let
• 2:01:07
  Speaker 6: them be happy. No, it hurts if someone has their
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 6: little ring and they're happy with that.
• 2:01:11
  Speaker 8: Let them be happy. They married for love.
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 6: Okay, remember that when you visit them and they're check
• 2:01:15
  Speaker 6: down the road. I'm kidding you, hater, conditions do apply here.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 6: Number one, did they come for you first? If you
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 6: want peace, you should have stayed silent. If they talk
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 6: shit and it got back to you, gossip is a
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 6: boomerang baby girl. If she accepted a thirty seven dollars ring,
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 6: I mean someone has to marry the losers, so like,
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 6: let them live.
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 8: That man is already struggling with poverty as it is.
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 6: Like, don't be a hater because Like, don't get me wrong,
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 6: I am sending that photo around in my group chup,
• 2:01:38
  Speaker 6: but like that one's kind of mean.
• 2:01:40
  Speaker 8: I kind of disagree with number four, but I'm too
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 8: edit it. But number five.
• 2:01:43
  Speaker 6: Here's the thing, it's always the former mean girl who's
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 6: posting her tiny ass ring and like it shows that
• 2:01:47
  Speaker 6: karma is real.
• 2:01:48
  Speaker 8: If she used to be mean, you can go for her,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 8: you can come for her. All they're mediocre.
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 2: God, I feel like I'm think, I.
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 1: Think this is like, this is like satire or comedy,
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 1: but it just comes across as really mean spirited and well.
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 2: Maybe it was intended to be satire. Of the original.
• 2:02:09
  Speaker 1: Lists reminds me of the Dave Chappelle sketch the player
• 2:02:14
  Speaker 1: Haters Ball.
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: It's just like a window into a mind that I've
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 2: I it's very unfamiliar. Yeah, it's like a stitch in
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 2: the space time continuum and I'm looking at an alien world.
• 2:02:31
  Speaker 2: This is shit that women do with each other. Huh,
• 2:02:34
  Speaker 2: why would you want female friends? Why do you want
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 2: to open your life to this? Like, I mean, if
• 2:02:45
  Speaker 2: you're a lesbian, you have no choice, presumably unless you
• 2:02:48
  Speaker 2: are a political lesbian, in which case people do a
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 2: lot of things that are absolutely self destructive in the
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 2: name of their politics. So enjoy, But why would you
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 2: choose to let this into your life in any context whatsoever?
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 2: Like answer for yourselves? Women? Now, I know this isn't
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 2: all women, but Jesus Christ, this behavior is so freaking prevalent.
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 2: And do you do the women who who are like
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 2: not like this, do they lean on their sisters not
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 2: to do this crap? Like I've been watching the Alexander
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 2: Gray stuff and I've seen things like groups of women
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 2: mocking men, like the one of them will get texts
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 2: from a paramour and she'll she'll read them out loud
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 2: and they'll all like the dozen you know, to an
• 2:03:44
  Speaker 2: audience of a dozen of her closest friends, and they'll
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 2: all be laughing. But apparently women also do this to
• 2:03:50
  Speaker 2: other women, Like this is not just turning men off
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 2: of women, This is turning women off of women. Because
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't want to open myself up to
• 2:04:02
  Speaker 2: this shit. I mean I do, like I'd be quite honest,
• 2:04:06
  Speaker 2: like on Twitter, I mean, this is a couple of
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 2: days ago, I got into a slap fight. I was like,
• 2:04:10
  Speaker 2: this is this is a slap fight of the mids
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 2: like this is the war of the Mids, because it
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 2: was me against another girl who was telling me that
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 2: I was harassing a beautiful, rich princess. And I'm like, no,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 2: you're a mid just like me. We're mids. You're a
• 2:04:27
  Speaker 2: mid in the mid kingdom like I am also, and
• 2:04:31
  Speaker 2: she was like, and she had she had other trophies
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 2: in her belt of other mid girls that she had
• 2:04:38
  Speaker 2: gone after even though she is also mid. So I
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 2: retweeted that and I said, Mid, no, sorry, hunter of
• 2:04:45
  Speaker 2: her own kind mid going after mid Like it's but
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 2: there's the thing, like, this is what is And again
• 2:04:53
  Speaker 2: I didn't start this until she started the shit, right, yeah,
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 2: but then I did bring the shit, so that's on me.
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 2: But regardless, like this is this is behavior that's just
• 2:05:06
  Speaker 2: really off putting. And there's no nobody, there's no counsel
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 2: of non juvenile women grabbing these women's ears and shaking
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 2: them and saying stop do it and do things. There's
• 2:05:20
  Speaker 2: no oversight. Of course, it is Twitter, so there's no
• 2:05:24
  Speaker 2: oversight period.
• 2:05:25
  Speaker 4: It's just a ball of rage.
• 2:05:27
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 1: I mean there are some women that are like coming
• 2:05:30
  Speaker 1: to her defense, to be fair, yes, and then they're
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: saying that these other women are being mean or they're
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 1: jealous or whatever. So there is some something of a
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 1: support network, but it's not like top down or anything
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 1: like that. No, no, no.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 2: But the but the other thing is that women do
• 2:05:49
  Speaker 2: this and they don't seem to realize how badly it
• 2:05:52
  Speaker 2: reflects on them, like maybe they're what men are going
• 2:05:59
  Speaker 2: to say anything because a woman, Oh right, no, he
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 2: said something about her her Uh yeah, I was a
• 2:06:09
  Speaker 2: little bit disappointed with that, like it's yeah, I mean, yeah,
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 2: she's bragging a bit. But honestly, I would have led
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 2: with the story of the engagement ring because it's pretty cool,
• 2:06:21
  Speaker 2: like using using silver that her her father or her
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 2: her her husband. He actually salvaged it, I think, and
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 2: he made the cast and he used her grandmother's diamond.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 2: That's that's cool.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:06:38
  Speaker 2: I would have led with that. But she led with
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: what she wanted to do, and certainly the response is
• 2:06:45
  Speaker 2: is ridiculous. But on the other hand, she's also you know,
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: come at me bro in the for original tweet, So
• 2:06:51
  Speaker 2: what do you do?
• 2:06:52
  Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. Let me play the
• 2:06:54
  Speaker 1: rest of this clip.
• 2:06:55
  Speaker 8: I reacted accordingly. Number seven.
• 2:06:58
  Speaker 6: If you simply feel like it not a trigger. Some
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 6: of us are just three lambs. Honestly, just remember be
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 6: happy for other people. But like exceptions do apply. You
• 2:07:07
  Speaker 6: can come for people, come.
• 2:07:10
  Speaker 2: For people for what this is encouraging, that toxic competition
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 2: between women, that's destroying relationships between men and women, and
• 2:07:21
  Speaker 2: it has nothing It actually isn't that men are losers
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 2: or that are significantly worse than men in the past,
• 2:07:28
  Speaker 2: because get this, the men today did all of the
• 2:07:32
  Speaker 2: work or are a result of men in the past
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 2: doing all of the work that women ask them to do,
• 2:07:37
  Speaker 2: to relinquish their spaces, to relinquish their successes, to relinquish
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 2: all of this stuff. These young men are a product
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 2: of that, and yet women don't want them. And you
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: know what it is. It has nothing to do with
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: men's lack of spiritual or emotional maturity or I don't
• 2:07:55
  Speaker 2: see young men being any less immature or any more
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 2: immature than young women. Has nothing to do with that.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 2: It is this toxic competition between women. That is what
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 2: it is. There is no control over it. There is
• 2:08:12
  Speaker 2: in most churches, no offense. Do not have the capacity
• 2:08:17
  Speaker 2: to control it. The woke establishment does not have the
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 2: capacity to even recognize it. So there's no control over it,
• 2:08:26
  Speaker 2: and our society is being torn apart, not because men
• 2:08:29
  Speaker 2: are losers, but because women are engaging in this level
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 2: of toxic competition with each other and they cannot leave
• 2:08:36
  Speaker 2: it alone. Right everything has to be about insulting, or
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 2: appropriating or creating resources, clout, attention, whatever. It's all these
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 2: colaws tearing at everything, and nothing can be built right now.
• 2:08:54
  Speaker 2: Once again, I would say Pearl has the closest to
• 2:08:57
  Speaker 2: any kind of a reasonable statement, least her first one.
• 2:09:02
  Speaker 2: But the rest of this is nonsense and it's all
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 2: just female competition. And like I remember going on one
• 2:09:10
  Speaker 2: of Pearl's secondary streams, and I'm brought up that this
• 2:09:15
  Speaker 2: current landscape has almost nothing to do with men. I
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 2: know people really struggle with that has nothing to do
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 2: with men. And this is why men can't solve it,
• 2:09:24
  Speaker 2: because it has nothing to do with them. It is
• 2:09:27
  Speaker 2: about toxic female competition. And when the urge to urge,
• 2:09:33
  Speaker 2: as I call it, gets into these women, there is
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 2: nothing Men can do. Nothing because she wants a man
• 2:09:41
  Speaker 2: who all our friends are gonna be jealous of, and
• 2:09:43
  Speaker 2: the only man that applies to is men who are
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 2: above her, and men who are desired by multiple women,
• 2:09:52
  Speaker 2: which is not the average man. What are you gonna do?
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 2: And it can never be the average man because if
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 2: the average man, if we waved wand and they turned
• 2:10:02
  Speaker 2: all men into chad, women in competition with other women
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 2: would develop an even more fine tuned list to target
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 2: the top ten percent of the chads in order to
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 2: make each other jealous. The problem is the competition between women,
• 2:10:25
  Speaker 2: and what are men supposed to do about that? Every
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 2: woman wants to be carding, have to have a wheelbarrow
• 2:10:34
  Speaker 2: to cart around her damn frickin' engagement ring because it's
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 2: the size of an elephant's testicle. What can men do? Right?
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 2: This has nothing to do with them, But maybe they
• 2:10:47
  Speaker 2: can start creating those things. You know, Maybe we can
• 2:10:50
  Speaker 2: blast open some more mines in Africa, like mountains in
• 2:10:54
  Speaker 2: Africa and send you know, twelve year old boys who
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 2: are starved down to the size of six years into
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 2: those minds to grab those freaking diamonds for you ladies.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe we could do that, But then the diamonds the
• 2:11:09
  Speaker 2: size of an elephant's testicle won't be enough. They'll have
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 2: to be a diamond the size of a small asteroid
• 2:11:16
  Speaker 2: or a diamond, the smiles at the size of a
• 2:11:18
  Speaker 2: small satellite. Right, It's never enough because it's always a
• 2:11:24
  Speaker 2: moving target. This jealousy and this grasping jealousy creates everything
• 2:11:31
  Speaker 2: becomes a moving target.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 2:11:35
  Speaker 2: And men cannot do anything, They cannot fulfill this. It
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 2: is impossible, all right, dah, calm down.
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 1: All right, that's fine. So, uh yeah, there's a lot
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 1: of support in the comment again, positive comments from Chrissy
• 2:11:57
  Speaker 1: Mayor Rachel Wilson Robin, I think I feel like I
• 2:12:02
  Speaker 1: know this person, but I don't know if I know them,
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 1: So there is some of that. But is there something
• 2:12:10
  Speaker 1: else you want me to bring up? Look at it?
• 2:12:12
  Speaker 5: Okay?
• 2:12:14
  Speaker 2: Is this supposed to be satire or is this the
• 2:12:17
  Speaker 2: kind of thing where they do believe it genuinely and
• 2:12:20
  Speaker 2: then they just post it and it's, oh, yeah, this is
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 2: actually not I.
• 2:12:23
  Speaker 1: Mean, well, no, I think the comments are supportive of
• 2:12:26
  Speaker 1: Sarah Stock, but I think this woman is legit, like
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 1: trying to be a hater but trying to make it
• 2:12:34
  Speaker 1: into a joke to give them enough you know, plausible deniability,
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 1: so that this is the way women work though, right,
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: That's like, do you catch any duper's the light in
• 2:12:45
  Speaker 1: the video when you were watching it, I think there is.
• 2:12:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, well I'd have to look at it again a
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 2: little more closely.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 1: Let's see way to play it, see if it's in there.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 8: Okay.
• 2:12:54
  Speaker 6: I could basically have a degree on how to be
• 2:12:55
  Speaker 6: a hater at this point, So let me share some
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 6: tips when to be a hater, specifically, rules.
• 2:13:00
  Speaker 8: Of engagement ring and no I don't have a ring,
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 8: so I'm allowed.
• 2:13:03
  Speaker 2: To be a hate.
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 6: And yes they do send your engagement pictures around to
• 2:13:06
  Speaker 6: my friends and like usually talk shit.
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 8: Sometimes you deserve it anyway.
• 2:13:10
  Speaker 6: Rule number one, let them be hap You know it
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 6: hurts if someone has their little ring in their house.
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 2:13:16
  Speaker 2: If a woman is going to be married, she knows
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 2: this is gonna happen. She knows this is gonna happen.
• 2:13:20
  Speaker 2: She knows her engagement picks are going to be traveling
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 2: the femisphere, and everybody's gonna get their beak out to
• 2:13:28
  Speaker 2: make their freaking little peck at it. Right, All the
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 2: hens are gonna gather to peck at peck it to death.
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 2: And so what is she So what happens to her
• 2:13:38
  Speaker 2: relationship with her man? What if he isn't capable of
• 2:13:42
  Speaker 2: getting a diamond the side of an elephant testicle. Mm hm,
• 2:13:46
  Speaker 2: And she knows all of her queenie friends are gonna
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 2: be all over that like white on rice. Where does
• 2:13:51
  Speaker 2: the resentment flow? Do you think she's got the fucking
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 2: balls to tell this bitch out and say stuff it? No,
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 2: the resentment is going to flow towards her husband, or
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 2: her future husband, her future fiance. And that's what's really
• 2:14:07
  Speaker 2: devilish about all of this. This is something that is
• 2:14:10
  Speaker 2: one hundred percent generated by the femosphere. This jealousy, this
• 2:14:17
  Speaker 2: gimlet eyed resentment towards what anybody, any other woman gets
• 2:14:21
  Speaker 2: that you don't get, is one hundred percent generated by
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 2: the femosphere. It is one hundred percent a moving target.
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 2: And women will one hundred percent turn around and take
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 2: all of the shit they get from their sisters and
• 2:14:35
  Speaker 2: dump it on men. And men are supposed to continually
• 2:14:41
  Speaker 2: absorb this resentment, continually take it on, continue, and are
• 2:14:47
  Speaker 2: they're expected to rise up to it? Does does she? Well,
• 2:14:51
  Speaker 2: she's gonna be dumped on her by her sisters because
• 2:14:54
  Speaker 2: of her engagement ring is the size of a baseball
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 2: rather than an elephant testicle. Well, you better work those
• 2:15:01
  Speaker 2: seventy hour weeks, those eighty hour weeks, those ninety hour weeks,
• 2:15:04
  Speaker 2: so you can afford a ridiculously sized engagement ring, so
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 2: that she can compete with her friends who who will
• 2:15:14
  Speaker 2: always find something to bitch about. This is utterly toxic, right,
• 2:15:21
  Speaker 2: This is utterly distructed. This individual is utterly destructive. And again,
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 2: nothing that the woman whose name is escaping me. Oh
• 2:15:31
  Speaker 2: good lord, I've lost my mind. Said, yeah, nothing that
• 2:15:36
  Speaker 2: she did deserves this. No, but again, like you did,
• 2:15:42
  Speaker 2: go come at me, bro, But still nothing she did
• 2:15:46
  Speaker 2: deserved it.
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 5: Mm hmm, I'm down the road.
• 2:15:50
  Speaker 8: I'm kidding you, hater. Conditions do apply here. Number one,
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 8: did they come for you first? If you want.
• 2:15:55
  Speaker 6: Peace, you should have seen silent. If they talked shit,
• 2:15:58
  Speaker 6: didn't have got back to you. Gossip is a boomer
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 6: baby girl.
• 2:16:00
  Speaker 1: If she accepted it, I saw it there, Like look
• 2:16:03
  Speaker 1: at her that right there?
• 2:16:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 1: Is that it? It's like kind of a crooked grin.
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 2: Learn to take learn compsion compersion, ladies. Learn to take
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 2: pleasure in the triumphs of your friends. Learn to celebrate
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 2: the triumphs of your friends right. Learn to feel like
• 2:16:28
  Speaker 2: if your friends are getting a good life, not necessarily
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 2: a rich life or whatever mean spirited list of crap
• 2:16:36
  Speaker 2: that you have. If they are getting the life that
• 2:16:38
  Speaker 2: they want, feel happy for them. Like, this is such ugliness,
• 2:16:45
  Speaker 2: and again we put it on men. All of these
• 2:16:47
  Speaker 2: commentators are saying, oh, the male loser epidemic alls, you know,
• 2:16:52
  Speaker 2: man up and be no. No, first of all, moving
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 2: target all. Men can't be the top temper sent of
• 2:17:00
  Speaker 2: men that can make this woman's female friends jealous. It's
• 2:17:06
  Speaker 2: just not possible. And also this is on women.
• 2:17:12
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, all right, well that was it. I just
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 1: want to share that. So what should we look at next?
• 2:17:19
  Speaker 2: Look at this stuff with Pearl. But again Pearl wades
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 2: into it as well, Like I think, same thing applies
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 2: with Pearl, possibly even more so because Pearl is this
• 2:17:29
  Speaker 2: isn't her first rodeo, so this is so.
• 2:17:32
  Speaker 1: This is a different Oh yeah, they're sharing. This is
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 1: another person sharing their ring as a means of like countering.
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 1: I guess. So he says, health care, I'll post ring.
• 2:17:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything. I think it's a carrot or
• 2:17:45
  Speaker 1: just under looks good on my hand, and a guy
• 2:17:47
  Speaker 1: I love bought it for me. It's the most beautiful
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 1: thing I've ever worn, and then pearl again pictured ring
• 2:17:53
  Speaker 1: not pictured husband and we have John Davis Aubourgeois. So yeah,
• 2:18:03
  Speaker 1: people generally, I mean the people who comment on somebody's
• 2:18:06
  Speaker 1: main posts are generally in support of that post most
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 1: of the time, except for this.
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 2: Is a better use of pearls acid tongue I think
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 2: right here as opposed to on Sarah because you know,
• 2:18:22
  Speaker 2: like Sarah again that route that ring is now an
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 2: heirloom because of the way it was crafted. Mm hmm,
• 2:18:35
  Speaker 2: you know, like props for that, and it's if and
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 2: this woman is yeah, bullshit, you don't know how many carrots.
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 2: I bet you know how many carrots are to like
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 2: the point tenth of a gram. Yeah, it's like quail
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 2: egg plus like in set. Okay, yeah, all right, so yeah,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 2: this is a good This is a better use of
• 2:19:03
  Speaker 2: pearls than venom, which is women who look at this
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 2: in terms of competition with other women, their relationship in
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 2: terms of competition with other women. And what gets really
• 2:19:15
  Speaker 2: creepy is a lot of these women just get into
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 2: relationships with men out of competition with other women. It
• 2:19:21
  Speaker 2: has nothing to do with the men, and not even
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 2: much to do with the men's virtues, Like if we
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 2: all lived in Cavemanland and the top ten percent of
• 2:19:30
  Speaker 2: men just had the nicest, like freaking rock, then that
• 2:19:37
  Speaker 2: would be that would be the standard. Right, It's not.
• 2:19:41
  Speaker 2: It really does nothing to do with men. It's just
• 2:19:44
  Speaker 2: the top ten percent, that's it. And I hope I
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 2: don't have to explain this mathematically. That is not a
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 2: functional society, all right?
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 1: That nokay, all right? So Myron game he had something
• 2:20:02
  Speaker 1: to say, is Myron gains from pression fit? And he
• 2:20:06
  Speaker 1: says he basically used a screenshot of Sarah Stock's photo
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 1: and this woman's comment, why is it so small? Lol?
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 1: Isabella Maria de Luca just another woman that was basically
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: commenting on the size of the rock, And Myron says
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: women are their own worst enemies, says West enemies, But
• 2:20:24
  Speaker 1: I think he meant worst Sarah at Sarah Stock got
• 2:20:27
  Speaker 1: proposed to. And I see multiple tread grifting thoughts like
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 1: Isabella de Luca and at Emily Saves Usa trying to
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 1: throw shade in the comments. I'm extremely critical of women
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 1: and feminism, but I will never insult a woman for
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 1: doing her job finding a man and creating a nuclear family.
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 1: As for the rest of you, single hose, I will
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 1: continue to cook you for being single and unable to
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 1: find a man, a man you actually want, not a
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 1: loser that will actually marry you. I'm gonna continue cooking
• 2:20:54
  Speaker 1: you thoughts. Congrats Sarah. So I basically use it as
• 2:20:59
  Speaker 1: an opportunity. This is kind of a male flex though,
• 2:21:02
  Speaker 1: like look at me, I'm I'm gonna cook you guys,
• 2:21:05
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna call you out for being losers. But
• 2:21:08
  Speaker 1: I guess he's like lowering himself to their level or
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 1: he's at their level, and that's like his approach. So unfortunately, though,
• 2:21:14
  Speaker 1: because he's a man, I don't think it has the
• 2:21:16
  Speaker 1: same effect. No Sarah's to say, thanks, iron, I don't.
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 2: Know what will have in effect like yeah, yeah, okay,
• 2:21:27
  Speaker 2: so just go back up. Honestly, the thing is that
• 2:21:35
  Speaker 2: what well to his to his statement, because there's one
• 2:21:38
  Speaker 2: thing I wanted to say as well as to use
• 2:21:40
  Speaker 2: single hose, I will continue to cook you for being
• 2:21:42
  Speaker 2: single and unable to find a man and men you
• 2:21:43
  Speaker 2: actually want, not a loser that will actually marry you. Okay.
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 2: In order for these single hoes to do that, they
• 2:21:50
  Speaker 2: would have to abandon or have the balls stand up
• 2:21:55
  Speaker 2: to the sisterhood and its toxic competition, because that's I'm
• 2:22:01
  Speaker 2: guessing is one of the big reasons why women aren't
• 2:22:03
  Speaker 2: settling is because they're thinking of that moment when their
• 2:22:08
  Speaker 2: engagement picture gets shared around, or maybe their picture of
• 2:22:12
  Speaker 2: them and the fance gets shared around among the circle
• 2:22:16
  Speaker 2: of harpies, and what they're gonna say, Oh, he settled
• 2:22:21
  Speaker 2: for that, Oh what a lizer. He's only six foot five.
• 2:22:27
  Speaker 2: My boyfriend's seventeen feet all. He only gave you an
• 2:22:33
  Speaker 2: an engagement ring that you can barely You have to
• 2:22:37
  Speaker 2: carry your arm in a sling. Well, my engagement ring,
• 2:22:40
  Speaker 2: I require an entire team of porters to move my arm,
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 2: you know, like that kind of shit.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 4: Like.
• 2:22:47
  Speaker 2: And women are thinking about that, right, They're thinking about
• 2:22:51
  Speaker 2: that moment where they have to expose their hopes and
• 2:22:55
  Speaker 2: dreams to the Sisterhood and have them pick pecked to death.
• 2:23:02
  Speaker 2: And again, what the hell are men supposed to do
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 2: with all that? What are they gonna do except becomes
• 2:23:10
  Speaker 2: sponges for the inevitable resentment?
• 2:23:13
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right. Richard B. R. Gave us a super
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: chow for five dollars and says should we be ordering
• 2:23:18
  Speaker 1: an extra Earth kit for I Kia at this point
• 2:23:22
  Speaker 1: we need another Earth? Yeah, an extra Earth because you said.
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah yeah, oh I need quite
• 2:23:30
  Speaker 2: a few more.
• 2:23:31
  Speaker 1: Know if Ikea makes those the greater doors.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 2: Put in seventy five dollars to your fundraiser.
• 2:23:37
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you appreciate that.
• 2:23:40
  Speaker 2: So we are. We have three hundred and eighty five
• 2:23:43
  Speaker 2: dollars left, all right, and the end is Sunday. So
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 2: if you are able to help, please please put something through.
• 2:23:50
  Speaker 2: Unfortunately I have to actually manually accept the pledges, so
• 2:23:56
  Speaker 2: it just takes a moment for things to update. Maybe
• 2:24:00
  Speaker 2: pop it on the screen there, Do you have a link?
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: I can get one hold on.
• 2:24:08
  Speaker 2: Okay and let people see it. I was thinking about
• 2:24:12
  Speaker 2: going through all of the the women who were calling
• 2:24:17
  Speaker 2: saying that Pearl sucks, you know, black cock and that
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, and but I don't know Pearl, you
• 2:24:26
  Speaker 2: know what you're saying.
• 2:24:27
  Speaker 1: They were just attacking her in some.
• 2:24:30
  Speaker 2: And the funny thing is that hers was probably the
• 2:24:32
  Speaker 2: most legitimate criticism. You know, it is something that you know,
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 2: Sarah should genuinely keep in mind. You're marrying a man, Yeah,
• 2:24:41
  Speaker 2: you're marrying a man and not a ceremony or a
• 2:24:45
  Speaker 2: state like being a wife, that kind of thing, and
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 2: that's something that's legitimate. I think now I know that
• 2:24:54
  Speaker 2: you know, Pearl knows she's waiting in on it, and
• 2:24:56
  Speaker 2: I think that, to be fair, this storyory of this
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 2: particular engagement ring sort of softens that when it comes
• 2:25:04
  Speaker 2: to Sarah. So that's why I said, you know that
• 2:25:07
  Speaker 2: that other ring with the quail eggs sized diamond, that
• 2:25:11
  Speaker 2: that woman most definitely knows how many carrots are of,
• 2:25:14
  Speaker 2: even though she's like humble dragging.
• 2:25:15
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know, it's like whatever, I don't I.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: Don't care about that kind of thing, but I don't.
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 1: Here's a picture though, but I don't really care.
• 2:25:23
  Speaker 2: I don't really care. It's not about the size of
• 2:25:26
  Speaker 2: the ring, but it is quite big, you know, like
• 2:25:28
  Speaker 2: that that that definitely that is definitely deserving of Pearl's
• 2:25:34
  Speaker 2: acid tongue, Sarah. Like I said, it's not. It's not
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 2: the most unwholesome thing I've seen, you know. All right, Okay,
• 2:25:46
  Speaker 2: so there there's that's oh wait, no, we're at no,
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 2: it's uh, it's actually three hundred, three hundred and forty
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 2: five dollars left. I was I was incorrect, I was
• 2:26:01
  Speaker 2: mathing wrong. Sorry, I need to breathe.
• 2:26:09
  Speaker 1: I need to breathe. Oh, Alison dropped, She dropped out.
• 2:26:14
  Speaker 1: She'll probably be back in the meantime. Well, I wanted
• 2:26:20
  Speaker 1: to get to the chaser. But yeah, there's a lot
• 2:26:23
  Speaker 1: of rage. This basically became like a thing that lasted
• 2:26:26
  Speaker 1: for a few days. And of course they went after pearls,
• 2:26:30
  Speaker 1: like you know, boyfriend choices. But I don't think it's
• 2:26:34
  Speaker 1: because like here, let me see if Allison is back.
• 2:26:38
  Speaker 1: She's back. Okay, hold on, I gotta I gotta plug
• 2:26:45
  Speaker 1: your camera back in. People can't hear you right now,
• 2:26:48
  Speaker 1: so give me a second. I gotta plug you back in. Yep. Yeah,
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 1: basically all right, you should be there.
• 2:27:02
  Speaker 2: It goes okay, all right, hello again, I accidentally hit
• 2:27:07
  Speaker 2: the button that yeah, yeah, yeah, that was dumb. Sorry guys. Yeah,
• 2:27:17
  Speaker 2: so that's and then Parole got ship. But you know
• 2:27:20
  Speaker 2: she's got to know that that's what's going to happen.
• 2:27:24
  Speaker 1: Well yeah, well what I was saying is that I
• 2:27:26
  Speaker 1: think that the her the women competing again. It's again,
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's call of duty for women.
• 2:27:34
  Speaker 1: So like you go to a call of duty lobby,
• 2:27:36
  Speaker 1: and the kids will call you all kinds of names, right,
• 2:27:39
  Speaker 1: They'll they'll call you gay, They'll they'll use racial slurs.
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: But it's not because they actually believe what they're saying.
• 2:27:46
  Speaker 1: It's because it gets under your skin and they're trying
• 2:27:48
  Speaker 1: to get you upset. They're trying to trigger you, right,
• 2:27:51
  Speaker 1: It's not like they actually and I think this is
• 2:27:53
  Speaker 1: the same thing here. So you know, women they have
• 2:27:56
  Speaker 1: like a way of like getting like into the most
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 1: sensitive things to like hurt you emotionally. But it's not
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 1: because these are things that they actually believe. It's because
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 1: they know it works on you. So like you know,
• 2:28:10
  Speaker 1: and people like Belle Delphine, which I talked about a
• 2:28:14
  Speaker 1: while back. Belle Delphine was like a very popular e
• 2:28:18
  Speaker 1: girl online and she was selling the girlfriend experience on
• 2:28:22
  Speaker 1: her Patreon or something like that, I don't remember. And
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 1: then she had the opportunity to go on a podcast
• 2:28:28
  Speaker 1: I think it was Ethan Kleine, and Ethan Klein was
• 2:28:33
  Speaker 1: trying to get her to like, you know, dog on
• 2:28:35
  Speaker 1: the men that give her money and pay for her
• 2:28:38
  Speaker 1: OnlyFans and like suggest that she got stalker's or weirdos
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 1: but Belle Delphine said, no, Actually, the men are not
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 1: really that mean. Even when they are, it's pretty mild,
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 1: you know, they call me horror whatever. But the women
• 2:28:53
  Speaker 1: are way worse because they know how to, like, they
• 2:28:56
  Speaker 1: know how to find your weaknesses, you know, at your imperfections,
• 2:28:59
  Speaker 1: upoint out your your asymmetries. You know, it's like these
• 2:29:04
  Speaker 1: little these whatever it takes, though, and I think that's
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 1: what they're doing. They're trying to do it to pearl
• 2:29:08
  Speaker 1: Is basically say oh, well you're you know, because they'll
• 2:29:12
  Speaker 1: call her, they'll call her unattractive, they'll try to make
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 1: her look ugly. They'll they did the same thing with
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: Sidney Sweeney, right, they presented pictures of her without makeup,
• 2:29:21
  Speaker 1: and you'd be like, look at her, she's gross, right,
• 2:29:24
  Speaker 1: zoom to try to like use filters to make all
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 1: of her imperfections come to the fore. It's just the tactics.
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 1: It doesn't really have anything to do with their belief system.
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 1: It's really just like how can I do the most
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 1: damage with my words? I know, you know, it's really so.
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 2: It really speaks to this idea that you know, women say, oh,
• 2:29:47
  Speaker 2: we're all tens.
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, the fangs come out, the claws.
• 2:29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the the itemized list of all of your that
• 2:30:01
  Speaker 2: they noticed while gas yass lighting you by saying you're
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 2: a tent? What the hell is that?
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: Like, they obviously know everything and as long as you're
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: as long as you're my ally.
• 2:30:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, they obviously can tell. They've itemized every single flaw, right,
• 2:30:21
  Speaker 2: so they know that a woman is not a tent.
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 2: So they just bullshit about it.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 3: And then.
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's right, And it gets you addicted to the
• 2:30:32
  Speaker 2: adulation of the sisterhood because men aren't you know, like
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 2: when men judge women, you know, they do it on
• 2:30:38
  Speaker 2: the curve. They don't actually pick out all of of
• 2:30:41
  Speaker 2: the tiny little things, right, they don't, But women do
• 2:30:47
  Speaker 2: so they know. It's just like that woman with the
• 2:30:50
  Speaker 2: rock on her finger, like the quail egg sized ring
• 2:30:54
  Speaker 2: like diamond that she's like, Oh, I don't even I
• 2:30:56
  Speaker 2: don't even I don't even know how big it is, right,
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 2: She's like she knows to the tenth of the gram,
• 2:31:02
  Speaker 2: how many carrots that is. Every woman who says, oh,
• 2:31:05
  Speaker 2: you're a perfect ten knows to the micrometer all of
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 2: your flaws, every single one of them. And if you
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 2: piss her off, she will detail him and the added humiliation.
• 2:31:20
  Speaker 2: There's an added humiliation to this because as she's detailing
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 2: every one of your flaws, you realize that she saw
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 2: all of that while she was saying you are a
• 2:31:28
  Speaker 2: perfect ten and you are stupid enough, sucker enough to
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 2: believe her. It is actually diabolical. I don't know, Like, ladies,
• 2:31:38
  Speaker 2: do you really want to be in this catocracy of
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 2: the sisterhood? Do you want to be subject to this
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 2: for the rest of eternity? Is this what you want?
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 2: You no oversight over women's shitty behavior. Nobody's saying hey, no,
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 2: stop that. And that's the big thing again, not saying
• 2:32:00
  Speaker 2: all women, but there's no oversight, right, It's just like
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 2: the's just like the legal situation with women. You know,
• 2:32:09
  Speaker 2: not all women are gonna are gonna weaponize the legal
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 2: system against men, but they all have that option. Not
• 2:32:16
  Speaker 2: all women are going to engage in this kind of nastiness,
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 2: but they have the option. They're gonna have that without
• 2:32:22
  Speaker 2: the kind of social censure that men would get if
• 2:32:26
  Speaker 2: they did this. Hell, if they did this, they probably
• 2:32:28
  Speaker 2: think they were gay, honestly, but really, do you is
• 2:32:33
  Speaker 2: this how you want to live? Your lives and this
• 2:32:36
  Speaker 2: squalor and misery. Anyway, it's frustrating. But again, for in
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 2: terms of Pearl, I will say this, she did run
• 2:32:50
  Speaker 2: up to the mound like the high ground, tackle Sarah,
• 2:32:54
  Speaker 2: fling her off of it, and then say come at me,
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 2: bro mm hmmm. So well, I like that she's exposing
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 2: the hypocrisy. But on the other hand, what did she expect?
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: Yep, all right, you want to look at the chaser.
• 2:33:10
  Speaker 2: Then sure, let's look at the chaser.
• 2:33:14
  Speaker 1: All right, let's look at the chaser.
• 2:33:17
  Speaker 3: I broke up with my boyfriend, someone I loved, someone
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 3: I have known for over ten years, because he didn't
• 2:33:22
  Speaker 3: stand up to misogynistic.
• 2:33:24
  Speaker 2: Can I just point something out, opportunity we had That
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 2: filter is really trying hard.
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 1: Doing a lot of heavy lifting.
• 2:33:34
  Speaker 2: It's doing a lot of heavy lifting.
• 2:33:37
  Speaker 3: Just finished watching adolescents.
• 2:33:40
  Speaker 2: A see how her jaw keeps shifting. Yeah, either she's
• 2:33:46
  Speaker 2: got like she filmed this on like a VHS camera,
• 2:33:52
  Speaker 2: or she's got a filter that's doing a hell of
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 2: a lot of heavy lifting. Now that's my caddy comment.
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 8: All right, all right, up to misogynistic young men.
• 2:34:02
  Speaker 3: When he was given the opportunity we had just finished
• 2:34:05
  Speaker 3: watching Adolescents, a mini series on Netflix that essentially talks
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 3: about how boys are being more and more radicalized online,
• 2:34:13
  Speaker 3: how parents aren't paying attention, and how it's really up
• 2:34:15
  Speaker 3: to men to help solve this problem because they're surely
• 2:34:18
  Speaker 3: not going to listen.
• 2:34:19
  Speaker 2: And before somebody tells me she's got like some kind
• 2:34:22
  Speaker 2: of stroke symptom.
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 1: And their purpose of propaganda is just this why the
• 2:34:29
  Speaker 1: show exists, Like you can watch it and say, oh, well,
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 1: I didn't get that message. I got this other message.
• 2:34:34
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. It worked. This woman took that away.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 1: That was the purpose.
• 2:34:39
  Speaker 3: Right behind us were two boys, probably thirteen or fourteen
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 3: years old, and they were saying things like Trump is
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 3: the best.
• 2:34:46
  Speaker 8: What has he ever done? He has more followers online.
• 2:34:48
  Speaker 8: I don't get by no one would like him.
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 3: And I was seething because my six 's four handsome,
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 3: white privileged boyfriend wasn't saying anything. And so finally I stop.
• 2:34:57
  Speaker 3: I turn around and I get right in their face
• 2:35:00
  Speaker 3: and I said, he's a fucking rapist. He's a certified
• 2:35:03
  Speaker 3: fucking rapist. And they go white in the face.
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, wait a second, All right, there's a civil suit.
• 2:35:12
  Speaker 2: As far as I know.
• 2:35:15
  Speaker 1: And you don't want to be the one with EG
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 1: and Carroll.
• 2:35:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't follow this well.
• 2:35:21
  Speaker 1: It's a rape accusation, Alison. Why don't you follow it.
• 2:35:26
  Speaker 2: Well? Because it's an accusation, right.
• 2:35:30
  Speaker 1: But it's do you know what do you know? Do
• 2:35:33
  Speaker 1: you know just how hair brained the accusation is, that
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 1: it's from like decades ago, and that the evidence is
• 2:35:41
  Speaker 1: like nonexistent, but that the activist courts pushed it through
• 2:35:45
  Speaker 1: because they wanted to damage the Orange Man's reputation, and
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 1: the media ran with it forever on loop. It's way
• 2:35:51
  Speaker 1: worse than Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby. So like, why
• 2:35:55
  Speaker 1: isn't that well, I know, I know that it's gonna
• 2:35:59
  Speaker 1: affecteop like this because people just believe it. They believe
• 2:36:03
  Speaker 1: it because of the Billy Bush thing. Right, No, that's
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 1: why it's that's why it was a civil suit. There's
• 2:36:12
  Speaker 1: no hope of a conviction. But the woman who made
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 1: the allegation is a nutcase with no evidence. Okay, this
• 2:36:21
  Speaker 1: is like this should have been laughed out of any
• 2:36:25
  Speaker 1: court anywhere. But because because the media ran with it
• 2:36:30
  Speaker 1: and everybody else got behind it, all of the people
• 2:36:33
  Speaker 1: in the cathedral. People like this woman just believe it
• 2:36:37
  Speaker 1: because it was on the news, and I want to
• 2:36:39
  Speaker 1: believe it. That's another thing. They want to believe it
• 2:36:42
  Speaker 1: so we know it's not true. If you guys know,
• 2:36:44
  Speaker 1: the Egen Carroll thing, that's like the most ridiculous rape
• 2:36:48
  Speaker 1: accusation ever, like ever period, like for real. The woman
• 2:36:52
  Speaker 1: is crazy and drunk all the time, like you know.
• 2:36:57
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so yeah, she's saying certified because this is
• 2:37:02
  Speaker 1: how propaganda works. This woman is like, this is a poe.
• 2:37:07
  Speaker 1: I mean she said, oh, we watched adolescents so important
• 2:37:11
  Speaker 1: and then what she's just fitting out the talking points
• 2:37:13
  Speaker 1: that the show has. And why why then did Kiera
• 2:37:16
  Speaker 1: Starmer say, oh that this is the documentary it should
• 2:37:19
  Speaker 1: be shown in schools. Do you think that's an accident?
• 2:37:21
  Speaker 1: Do you think it's because he's stupid? No, Like, there's
• 2:37:24
  Speaker 1: a purpose behind all and it works. The purpose of
• 2:37:28
  Speaker 1: a system is what it does. This is what is happening.
• 2:37:30
  Speaker 1: So like the Egen Carroll thing is just another layer
• 2:37:33
  Speaker 1: of stupid. But this woman just believes it. And what
• 2:37:36
  Speaker 1: does she do here? She confronts these kids and she
• 2:37:40
  Speaker 1: creates a hostile situation with the express hope that her
• 2:37:45
  Speaker 1: boyfriend is gonna intervene, because so essentially she's one of
• 2:37:49
  Speaker 1: these women that starts fights that her boyfriend their boyfriends
• 2:37:54
  Speaker 1: have to finish, right, yep, So let's let's uh, this
• 2:37:57
  Speaker 1: is on purpose, this is and it's all because of propaganda.
• 2:38:01
  Speaker 3: Wasn't saying anything, and so finally I stop, I turn
• 2:38:04
  Speaker 3: around and I get right in their face and I said,
• 2:38:06
  Speaker 3: he's a fucking rapist. He's a certified fucking rapist. And
• 2:38:11
  Speaker 3: they go white in the face. Boyfriend still just standing there,
• 2:38:15
  Speaker 3: not saying anything. Once the boys get their bearings, they
• 2:38:17
  Speaker 3: say something like Trump is my daddy, Trump is your daddy.
• 2:38:21
  Speaker 3: And I was furious. I had a full blown crash out.
• 2:38:24
  Speaker 3: I took my full morning latte and I smashed it
• 2:38:27
  Speaker 3: on the ground and I grunted and yelled and walked away.
• 2:38:31
  Speaker 8: And he's like, woo's the murder.
• 2:38:32
  Speaker 1: You are the matter.
• 2:38:33
  Speaker 9: Not even lois so much him because he had an
• 2:38:36
  Speaker 9: opportunity to stand up against misogyny and he fucking didn't.
• 2:38:46
  Speaker 1: Why I still think that that's not real. I actually
• 2:38:48
  Speaker 1: still think like, in a way, could it could? Like
• 2:38:51
  Speaker 1: she said she threw her mourning latte like it just it,
• 2:38:55
  Speaker 1: but I wouldn't, like you just can't tell I know.
• 2:38:58
  Speaker 2: I pelted them my avocado toast.
• 2:39:01
  Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. The only reason why I think
• 2:39:03
  Speaker 1: it's true is because she didn't win. Yeah, you know,
• 2:39:07
  Speaker 1: there wasn't an eight year old involved that was like, Mommy,
• 2:39:10
  Speaker 1: are the are the bad iceman gonna take me away
• 2:39:14
  Speaker 1: and throw me in the ocean with the alligators?
• 2:39:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Well I'm I just okay, just and this isn't
• 2:39:26
  Speaker 2: this isn't a left or right thing. Okay. If this
• 2:39:30
  Speaker 2: is an allegation, that's ridiculous. It's an allegation that's ridiculous.
• 2:39:34
  Speaker 4: Period.
• 2:39:36
  Speaker 2: And if she's saying that it's a certified no, it's
• 2:39:42
  Speaker 2: not certified at all. Well, first of all, it's a
• 2:39:45
  Speaker 2: civil suit, so you And second of all, was it
• 2:39:52
  Speaker 2: decided or was it taken out a court or something
• 2:39:54
  Speaker 2: to end it?
• 2:39:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's ongoing, but it looks like Egene
• 2:39:58
  Speaker 1: Carrol is gonna have to like pay him back or
• 2:40:00
  Speaker 1: something like. I think she's losing the case.
• 2:40:03
  Speaker 2: All right. And also even in some cases when these cases,
• 2:40:08
  Speaker 2: like the women in a criminal trial actually get a conviction,
• 2:40:12
  Speaker 2: it's actually a false conviction. But we don't even have
• 2:40:16
  Speaker 2: the final result, and she's saying, oh, it's certified. No,
• 2:40:19
  Speaker 2: it's not. Okay, it is not. But you know, this
• 2:40:23
  Speaker 2: could be a pope. Let's finish.
• 2:40:24
  Speaker 1: I guess that's the end of it. That was it.
• 2:40:27
  Speaker 1: I played it.
• 2:40:28
  Speaker 2: She's leaving her six foot four boyfriend for this.
• 2:40:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, giga chad boyfriend. That's what I'm saying, Like, I
• 2:40:34
  Speaker 1: you know it, I don't know. I think that people online,
• 2:40:40
  Speaker 1: they're more they're inclined to nonsense, be hyperbolic because it
• 2:40:46
  Speaker 1: gets some more likes and clicks and retweets. So well, honestly,
• 2:40:51
  Speaker 1: it could be like somewhat true, but there's a lot
• 2:40:53
  Speaker 1: of embellishment, is what I'm saying.
• 2:40:55
  Speaker 2: I'm just I'm worried. Like I said that Caddie remark
• 2:40:59
  Speaker 2: about her filter. I'm just wondering if maybe she's actually,
• 2:41:02
  Speaker 2: like God, had a stroke or something because of the
• 2:41:04
  Speaker 2: left side of her That's gonna make me feel really bad.
• 2:41:07
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