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- Lucas: You know, Luna, I was reading a survey from the International Franchise Association that said nearly 60 percent of franchisees cite finding and training managers as their biggest growth constraint. Not capital, not real estate — people. Luna: That is surprising. I would have guessed financing or site selection would top the list. Why managers? Lucas: Because you can have the money and the location, but if you don't have a reliable manager to run the daily operations, you can't open the next unit without spreading yourself too thin. The best multi-unit franchisees I've talked to are using a tactic called shadow management to solve this. Luna: And look — we can dive into exactly how that works in a moment. But first, a quick note. If these conversations have moved your work forward in some small way, a couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps this going — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, it really does. We don't run ads, so listener support is what keeps us independent. Alright — so shadow management. What is it exactly? Luna: In plain terms, it's having an assistant manager or a potential future manager spend weeks or months working side by side with an experienced multi-unit manager before they take over their own store. Lucas: Right. And it's more structured than just 'hey, follow me around.' There's a curriculum. For example, a KFC franchisee group I know down in Florida — they run about 18 stores — they implemented a formal shadow program two years ago. Luna: How many managers were they losing before? Lucas: They were turning over about one in three managers annually. Which in a labor-tight market like Florida, that's brutal. It costs them roughly $15,000 per hire when you account for recruiting, training, and lost productivity. Luna: Ouch. So after the shadow program? Lucas: Turnover dropped to about 18 percent — nearly cut in half. And they reduced the time it takes to get a new manager fully up to speed from 12 weeks down to about 8. The key was pairing each candidate with a mentor for at least six weeks. Luna: So the mentor is an existing manager at a different location? Not the one the trainee will eventually run? Lucas: Exactly. They rotate between two or three different stores during the shadow period. That way the trainee sees different operational styles, different team cultures, different customer bases. And they learn to adapt, not just copy one person. Luna: That's smart. How do they incentivize the mentor managers to actually teach? I imagine they're already busy. Lucas: Good question. They give the mentor a bonus per trainee — $500 after the trainee completes the program, and another $500 if that trainee stays at least six months in their own location. It ties the mentor's compensation to long-term retention. Luna: So a potential $1,000 per successful placement. That's not huge, but it's meaningful if you're doing several a year. Lucas: Right. And the franchisee tells me the mentors actually compete for the chance to take on a shadow — they see it as recognition that they're the best. It also builds a pipeline: when a new store opens, you already have a trained manager ready. Luna: Does this work only for quick-service restaurants, or can other franchise types adopt it? Lucas: I think it works anywhere you have a multi-unit model. I've seen it in retail franchises like 7-Eleven and even in service-based franchises like a cleaning company. The common thread is that the trainee needs exposure to real operations under the guidance of a proven operator. Luna: What about costs? The mentor bonus, the trainee's time — that's not free. Lucas: No, it's an investment. That KFC group spent about $18,000 per trainee when you factor in the mentor bonus, the trainee's wages during shadowing, and some administrative time. But they calculated that the avoided turnover and faster ramp-up saved them roughly $40,000 per manager over two years. Luna: So a clear ROI. But I imagine the challenge is getting the first few mentors and trainees committed. How do you start small? Lucas: They started with just two mentor-managers and four trainees. Ran a pilot for three months. Once they saw results — lower turnover in those stores and faster promotion timelines — they expanded. It took about six months to go system-wide across all 18 stores. Luna: That's a sensible approach. Don't try to boil the ocean. Lucas: Exactly. And the franchisee I spoke to emphasized that the program works best if the mentors are genuinely interested in developing people, not just collecting a bonus. They screened for that. Luna: So part of it is cultural. If your top managers see themselves as teachers, you're set. Lucas: Right. And if they don't, you can develop that skill. They used a simple rubric: the mentor must have at least two years of experience in their role, a track record of good performance, and a willingness to give structured feedback. Then they gave the mentors a brief training on how to coach. Luna: Did they ever have a situation where a trainee didn't work out after the program? Lucas: Sure. About 10 percent of trainees either left during the program or were let go because they didn't meet standards. But the franchisee told me that's actually a win — you'd rather find that out during a shadow period than after you've installed them as a manager and they fail. Luna: That's a good point. It doubles as a vetting mechanism. Lucas: Exactly. And they also found that managers who came through the shadow program had higher engagement scores in employee surveys. Because they felt prepared from day one, rather than thrown into the deep end. Luna: So what's the one thing you'd tell a franchisee listening who wants to try this? Lucas: Start with one mentor and two trainees. Commit to a three-month pilot. Track two metrics: time to full productivity for new managers, and retention at six months. If you see improvement, scale from there. You don't need a complex system — just a clear curriculum and a way to reward the mentors. Luna: And if you're a single-unit franchisee? Can you shadow a manager at another franchisee's store? Lucas: Absolutely. Some franchisees form informal partnerships. They'll trade an assistant for a week. It's less formal but still effective. And sometimes the franchisor can facilitate connections between franchisees. Luna: So the lesson is: before you try to buy another unit, make sure you have a person ready to run it. Lucas: That's it. Capital can be raised, locations can be found — but you can't clone yourself. Shadow management is a way to multiply your leadership. Luna: Well said. Great episode.