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Bonus Episode - Attitude Era Wrestling Review Crossover · My Third Place Pod

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  Welcome back. Wrestling Geeks.
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  I'm Ernie. And tonight, I'm literally
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  recording from under the apron. No, seriously.
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  This is a very special bonus episode.
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  I was just recently on another podcast.
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  Now, it's not a crossover with the nerd.
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  Bottle Network again, I've traveled the resting Multiverse
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  and got to be a guest on another show.
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  I got to hang out with the fine people of the Attitude Era
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  resting review podcast, Link in the show notes.
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  It was awesome, being on other people's podcast and sharing my
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  knowledge and lending you my voice and opinion.
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  If you will on topics such as that era in wrestling The
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  Attitude Era, my ERA this episode is US discussing wwf's
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  Ground Zero from 1997. Yes you heard right WWF and
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  1997. Basically the we're at the war
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  we're in the trenches of the Attitude Era.
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  I had so much fun doing this episode, so I hope you all enjoy
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  it as much as I love being a part of it.
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  And yeah, talk to you all at the end of the episode where
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  exciting news. You're not gonna want to miss
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  it. Sables.
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  Left. Tit, Sables, right tit.
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  And Bret Hart as a, as a parent. Now I'm like, why would you let
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  your kids go with it? They drew says, you know, ref in
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  the name of freedom. I think I'm going to concede and
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  let Bret Hart have this mess because that's what American
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  school. We believe in giving people
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  chances bootstrapping what Ladies and gentlemen, welcome
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  back to the Attitude Era. Wrestling review podcast where
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  we review wrestling from The Attitude Era and tell you
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  whether it was great or whether it was crap.
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  And today we will be reviewing WWF in your house Ground Zero
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  from the Louisville Gardens from September 9th. 1997, and boy,
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  what a pay-per-view. This was good or bad.
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  Don't know, you'll have to listen in and find out but I am
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  of Horse your to time to time armchair Booker of the Year,
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  finalist for third in a row, will have to wait till December
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  to see if it get that one. And of course you all know, the
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  man, the legend, the man with the Velvet.
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  Vocal cords, my co-host, my muse, Arnold Arnold.
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  What is up this morning? Well, never been called
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  someone's news before. So flattered, I'm flattered this
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  morning. Drew How are you doing?
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  I'm not doing too bad. I was had a little bit of food
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  poisoning, Thursday, and had a took, a lot of Rousseau's
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  through the mouth, but you know how it goes.
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  But you know what, Arnold? We're not alone today.
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  We are not. We have another guest with us
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  today and from, from under, the Earth from, under the apron that
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  I say that, right? I wrote it down wrong from under
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  the apron, I wrote from apron the apron from under the apron.
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  So what I get for reading and from under the apron podcast, we
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  have the million-dollar geek. What is up?
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  Can I just call you MDG? Hey yo it's me it's me it's that
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  empty G million dollar. Love is sick, that is awesome.
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  What is up? What is going on?
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  I'm excited for the show. Awesome, yeah, thanks for coming
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  on. Pleasures.
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  All my you guys. I was like yes I want to be on
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  the show. Finally somebody asked me on the
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  show, only side the network I'm in but yes, oh yeah, I'm an
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  outsider outside of it. Oh, I don't care anybody, I
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  don't care. Guess listener, or Lesner
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  podcast, I don't care. You want to be on the show.
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  You just send me a message and we will get you on the show.
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  I'm not picky about, who comes on this is the first time this
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  is the first time on Twitter that anybody asked me gonna
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  show. So I'm like, okay, that's
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  fucking awesome. Great been podcasting for 10
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  months by myself. Okay, I'll do it.
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  Oh, no worries. Yeah, awesome.
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  Yeah, I really appreciate you always share a lot of the stuff
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  we post and that's awesome. Mmm.
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  Yeah, shelter support my fellow podcasters.
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  No, yeah, yeah. I understand the struggle.
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  Yeah, I mean, hey, we're all just little independent broke
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  podcasters, who just enjoyed talking about Isn't a support
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  each other. I love it.
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  I mean, yeah, I've actually started the second podcast.
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  I like it so much. Well, maybe talk about that
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  later. Anyhow, we're going to talk
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  about WWF, Ground Zero and this is whoo.
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  I'm gonna not gonna lie. This is one that I don't remain.
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  I don't think I was watch. I wasn't watching wrestling yet.
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  I'm still two months away from becoming a wrestling fan, 25
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  years ago. But this is one that I don't
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  remember hearing about before or I don't think there's anything
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  groundbreaking that you know lasted you know, in the annals
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  of history but this was, I'm this was thing to watch, we'll
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  have to get in, we'll get into that later.
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  But this was on the cusp of the Attitude Era like you just need
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  a little screw job there and then you're there.
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  Well, well, I mean that's Well, we've talked about this before,
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  but I mean, it all depends. There's always like multiple
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  points. People think the attitude are
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  really starts. I'm 12.
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  Thanks it real. I mean, it gets full blown, I
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  agree with you. After Mantra, whatever happened
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  to Montreal, we're not sure, we're not there yet, but never
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  heard of it. But keeping Cafe, without
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  keeping case. But yeah, it really goes.
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  A full off the rails there, but we've been watching, we started
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  our podcast from the night, Stone Cold, Steve Austin, gave
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  his Austin, 3:16 speech. And why is my battery running
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  low? Sorry.
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  Hold on because Well, we started watching TV started this podcast
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  when I'm the night. Austin did is Austin. 3:16
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  promo. The first time at King of the
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  Ring, tiny six, and that's kind of when I think the Attitude Era
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  started. But at the end, we watched, you
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  know, that whole year and I've been watching since and you seem
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  more uptick piece here, little edgy thing there you know, just
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  slowly, get the ball rolling. I think it all is going to lead
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  to a head in nine in some In November ish and Montreal
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  whatever you were talking about where it really just gets blown
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  W. They just kicked the door wide
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  open. We've seen that door creaking,
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  just too. Over the last 18 months
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  blueprint. Mmm, pretty much.
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  I mean, even in that time I mean we've seen Rawls, I guess.
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  Tron change. It's not called Monday Night Raw
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  anymore. Now, it's Raw is war so as like
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  as we're ramping up so we're WWE's Attitude Era.
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  We're starting to see the Monday night Wars, start to get into
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  the meat and potatoes of it. And really, I mean, you can kind
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  of say, the Declaration was drawn when Lex, Luger, showed up
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  at the mall of the Mall of America back in 95.
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  And it's kind of like, oh, Okay. And then of course, you know, we
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  get Vinnie, Mac thrown his hissy fit whenever Scott Hall and
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  Kevin Nash take off and Then we get.
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  Diesel, when razor mysteriously show, back up on our televisions
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  for what? Two months.
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  And yeah. Fun times.
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  And and I think finally someone came along and said look like we
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  have to actually do something about this because I mean we
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  noticed there for a while especially after Hall and Nash
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  left that I mean I mean the the product was slowly kind of
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  declining on the W side, the roster was thin, they're only on
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  for an hour like you know and then Here Comes Nitro which is
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  We Have a Gimmick here where we like to make a bunch of
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  fireworks noises when we start the second hour of nitro and our
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  reviews and that was nitrous. Big thing for a while because
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  it's like, all right rolls off the air.
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  So let's give you prior. Welcome.
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  To our to of nitro and it's live and sure.
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  We all remember the infamous episode of nitro we're Shivani.
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  Basically gave us the results for role that night.
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  Yeah. But your buttons are seeds.
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  We're not there yet. And I was right.
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  We are not there yet. We're not there yet.
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  But it's interesting though, because it's like you've got all
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  that going on. And then for some reason, we're
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  looking forward to Survivor series.
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  In some mystical place called Montreal.
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  And yeah. For me, it's like, there's like
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  yeah, we're like geek said here, we're seeing the blueprint.
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  So what we will come to know and Look back on as the Attitude Era
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  as we know it, I'm excited for that.
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  I even see those live. I didn't even get to watch that
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  part of 97 until after Survivor Series.
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  So it's like, before that I was just like school girls work and
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  then my best friend who's like telling me, hey you guys check
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  this out. I'm like, what she's going off
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  at the I'll be up right now I'm like okay and then he tells me
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  that screwdriver. I don't like what?
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  Okay, cool I guess? Yeah.
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  That was my introduction to routing.
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  Yeah, around there. And then like Bret Hart doing
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  the Delta W is like what? No he would never Woody.
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  No, that's what I started watching again.
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  I was like all right. Cool awesome.
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  Yeah and Arnold your point. I think the the real The real
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  Paradigm Shift went when they went from like the blue and
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  yellow to the black and red. When the whole, when the set
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  change the attitude, literally the attitude, no pun intended,
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  changing this. Show the whole Focus, the tone
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  just shifted and it's still not as crazy as it's going to get.
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  But we, I mean, we'll see tonight.
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  We're getting pieces. That will see it.
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  Oh yeah. As a, as a parent now, Like why
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  would you let your kids go with it?
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  So yeah. Yeah.
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  We um we had a guest on couple weeks ago, a girl and there was
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  some things that we had to just go.
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  Yeah this wouldn't fly today. You know, it was kind of bad.
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  Then we're not we're not making excuses.
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  It was just a different time. Yeah.
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  And it was it was 25 years ago was a long time ago and there
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  was some crap that wouldn't fly today.
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  Oh that's Time I will I was like watching some ECW also so it's
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  like okay cool. You TW T be nice.
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  See I am in for this. I have never watched other than
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  like a clip or something. One second of ECW, DV or
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  pay-per-view. Never saw it.
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  Never never cared for it. All right.
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  Well, let's let's dive on into tonight.
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  We are in Louisville Gardens, stomping ground of somebody
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  famous is from Louisville in the wrestling business.
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  Once I guy's name. Holly works for WWF at this
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  point. It's obvious.
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  Dude is Jim Ross? I'll Jim Ross.
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  That's right. He's talked about it all the
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  time. Yeah, he's Boomer Sooner and all
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  that. Right?
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  Yeah, yeah. Nah, of course.
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  I'm talking about Cornett and you can see shades of his
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  booking in this a little bit tonight, we'll get there but of,
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  yeah. So I said through the cornea
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  reference in but only but own commentary.
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  We have Vince McMahon, ugh, with j.r. and the King.
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  One of those won't be here all night long.
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  Dumb dumb, dumb. Listen, and find out what we
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  open the show with the Montage of HBK and The Undertaker and
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  the old girl. Sean screwing up at Survivor
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  series and smashing. Take her in the head with a
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  chair and SummerSlam. What I say Survivor Series.
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  Yes whatever the other one is SS because I need to stop using
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  Abbreviations. Apparently, that's a fast
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  Summerfest. Yes, screwing up at SummerSlam.
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  Thank you. Um, then they showed the we're
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  hitting with the chair on raw and I hate that they slow mo
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  that because you can obviously see the blade glaze.
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  Yeah, I complained about it when they did it, they started again
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  tonight and I'm like, no stop doing that.
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  It's obvious. Even if you didn't know what it
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  was, you could look and say, oh, what's he doing this for all now
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  he's bleeding. It wasn't, I mean, he didn't do
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  anything wrong but they just slowed it down.
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  And zoomed in on it. So yeah.
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  But the one thing I wrote is that chair is holy crap bent.
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  I want to know where that chair is a day because I want that for
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  my Wrestling collection, double chair shot that Michaels hit
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  taker with and one thing I didn't realize if you look
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  closely it has Undertaker's. No than that right there. one
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  thing I didn't know, this was the first time Taker and Sean of
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  ever had a match This was this was their first, like they never
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  crossed paths before because they were both faces.
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  Yeah. So this is all to be pretty
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  interesting. All right, so then we get into
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  the first match and we see the package between gold dust and
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  pillman. And I went you smell that.
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  This is got Russo's. Crap written all over it.
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  Yeah, I love these two. Yeah I love these two.
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  To I love gold dust, I love pillman.
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  I hate this angle. I hate this whole storyline.
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  This is dumb. I don't mind they like if I lose
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  I'll leave the WWF but if I win I Get Your Valet services for 30
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  days that one I'm okay with. But the point where pillman goes
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  you know you know your kid that's fine.
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  That's Jerry Springer. Rousseau crap all over, it added
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  nothing nothing to Story. Listen bro this is gonna happen.
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  Okay? You're going to take your wife,
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  bro. And you're gonna he's gonna take
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  your wife bro. And then he's gonna leave in the
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  car outside, bro. All right bro, yeah.
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  Hey bro, yeah, I hate him so much God.
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  He's so annoying. You just got an extra bonus
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  point for getting re invited back to the podcast.
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  Check. All right bro.
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  Yeah. Russo's an Loot more on.
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  We will not let if anybody would ever come on the show and go,
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  you know I love interest. So I would just kick him out
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  right there and be done with them.
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  Not really. I'm just kidding, let's not talk
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  about yeah. I mean, I wouldn't really do
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  that but all thoughts and but I will argue with you till I'm
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  blue in the face and tell you why you're wrong.
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  But anywho I had a co-host. Say he wasn't the nicest person
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  ever. I mean, he may as a person, he
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  may be, but as a wrestling anything.
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  He's an absolute freakin moron keyword there had.
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  Yeah. The logger.
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  Where's that? Okay, well yeah, well, we get
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  gold dust versus pillman in a career.
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  I called it a career versus Martin Lane.
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  Imagine I didn't know what else to call this thing.
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  That's what it was career was Marlena too bad.
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  It wasn't she was hanging on the you know Marlene on a pole
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  match. That it's got kind of surprised.
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  I mean, if there would have been a return match, if there could
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  have been another return match, that's probably what it would
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  have been. No.
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  It'll just think of all the things to Judy Bagwell over
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  this, is it? No!
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  No, we're to hold you. Eat Bagwell started.
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  Oh my God. How does realize this?
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  This was going to probably get too ahead of dead been Dakota on
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  a pole. Whoever wins gets custody of the
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  kid because you know this would have been re and Eddie before
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  Ray and Eddie. Yep.
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  All right, but anywho all right and So apparently we missed the
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  last two roles because they were on Friday night, not on the
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  network. So I'm assuming pillman won a
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  match on raw and doesn't have to wear a dress anymore because
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  that because he hasn't had the dress here.
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  Wasn't the whole gimmick at the, where he had to wrestle and rest
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  till he went on, were all know, he found a whole.
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  Think the whole thing was that he was excluded from it and at
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  all at this point because hey, I'm challenging to, I'm giving
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  you a new proposition, how about this?
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  I don't want a dress anymore and we fight.
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  Okay, your wife. Okay.
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  I must suddenly said, okay I'm uh yeah and that makes more
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  sense for us. The rest was out.
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  Okay. Good.
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  Because that was getting old. Yeah, that was one of the points
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  when we had the The female guests on.
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  We had they're like yeah little different time.
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  Benny Hill. All right so Gold Dust they get
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  their entrance, gold does comes out first.
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  Here Comes pillman cold does jumps in wave before the Bell
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  ever rings and this was a good this was a really good match I
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  think went back and forth for a while I don't think anybody
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  thought anybody here think Goldust had a shot at winning
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  this the way it was booking. Going into this?
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  No. No.
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  Like there was I mean I was like there was some possibilities
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  like, there's no way to pull this off and then he does it.
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  I'm like oh shit. Okay guess Marlena is up for
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  grabs here. Yeah see I thought I thought
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  pillman was wanting the Thunder percent going in because I mean
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  I was looking at it from a booking perspective and that's
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  where your next story line is her with pillman and Goldust
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  fighting to getting back. If he I mean this this whole
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  thing's pretty much over into the road, this just didn't feel
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  like an end the line match to me, right.
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  And when I initially saw it was that Merlin has turned heel on
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  gold has and side with pillman. And then they do this whole
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  thing where she's now in love with pillman and like nothing
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  crazy Golda. That would have been a better
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  thing but now I'm just like why. And then the whole thing would
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  go that happen. We're not there to still.
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  Yeah, I had that thought about her Earning on Gold Dust at one
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  point and I can sing, I could have seen that working.
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  That would have been a, I could have seen that working a lot
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  better than what the end up going honestly but when it comes
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  to finish, I really do like this finish.
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  So we'll get to that. Let's see.
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  Gold does hits the curtain call but the ref gets the softest
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  bump ever in the history of the planet gets knocked down Marlena
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  jumps up and tries to hit pain with the purse but pillman
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  blocks it. ABS the purse turns around
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  clocks Gold Dust with it. Bam, the refs back, one, two,
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  three pillman wins and he shows our Lawler goes in and gets the
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  person shows the audience and the camera it was loaded with
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  the brick. So that's been our secret
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  weapon, over the purse this whole time.
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  This was a good match back and forth, two guys, that could
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  really go. I mean, of course, we all know
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  pillman couldn't go as well as he could a couple years ago
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  after the wreck But still, he was still great in the ring, he
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  wasn't as good as he was. He couldn't move around as well
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  but he could still go really, really well Goldust.
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  We know what he is. He's a classic classic old
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  school worker he was fine in this.
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  He really I think the more his makeup were off his face and the
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  more he was able to show his actual face, it kind of was like
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  a metaphor for his true self and emotion coming out in this.
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  And I think that was really good visual that was just
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  Happenstance unintentional. I really really like this match,
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  it wasn't great because and I think the storyline with the
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  girl, they kept mentioning and Lawler.
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  Keep making all the sexual reference kind of held back from
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  being truly great. So I ended up giving this a b
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  equals you think. he - and that, like, I hated the ending of
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  course, but, you know, Marlene I should have just Betrayed but we
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  do get that whole, here's a brick, we're going to put it on
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  a gold-plated purse, bro. And they keep going to hit you,
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  bro, okay bro, you okay with him stealing your girlfriend, bro.
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  Your wife, bro, and go slowly and go look like.
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  Well, I do reckon is gonna affect my career but okay, yeah,
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  be - that's not that's not a bagger.
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  We think B is good as gold. Great sea is just there.
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  D is bad. And F is Disco Inferno.
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  Get it off my TV. Oh Disco Inferno.
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  All right, Arnold. Would you think about this one?
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  I gave this one a b-plus. This was a great way to start
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  the pay-per-view. This is a good match to start a
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  pay-per-view with it's nice. It was nice, not saying pillman
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  in the dress, still thankfully and it's also a little
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  Bittersweet like considering the stipulation of the match whereas
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  career versus valet, I guess, basically this point and pillman
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  got the win, but if you think about it, have you lost and No
• 23:43
  hurry, no. Now know what we do not lost.
• 23:46
  Yeah, I mean know what we know now, even with the winning, he
• 23:49
  wouldn't have the full 30 days of managerial services from
• 23:55
  Marlena and but outside, maybe even outside of it.
• 24:00
  The melancholic stuff gold does. Did a really good job of taking
• 24:05
  control of the match in this one.
• 24:07
  And you could tell in a way and it's a even, like you said like
• 24:12
  I mean, we know, By Brian pillman was a fantastic worker
• 24:16
  but yeah I mean he wasn't what he was before but Gold Dust.
• 24:21
  Did a really good job of helping kind of cover that and I mean I
• 24:25
  just goes to show how fantastic but worker he is as well.
• 24:30
  Yeah you could you could easily tell he's no longer flying Brian
• 24:33
  pillman. Hmm he's just not going to be
• 24:35
  that anymore and that's but the Loose Cannon gimmick was I think
• 24:39
  much better than flying Brian. Oh yeah.
• 24:43
  And what one more thing I want to bring up about this match,
• 24:45
  anybody notice when he took Marlena out to the back, put her
• 24:49
  in the car and kind of throws her in the backseat and she's
• 24:53
  there for a couple seconds like beating at the back window.
• 24:57
  That's not a police squad car. Why didn't you just unlock the
• 25:01
  door and get out to make sense, bro?
• 25:07
  It's gonna make sense to the audience for how dare you try to
• 25:10
  bring logic into professional wrestling?
• 25:12
  Oh no, I know. Still real to me.
• 25:14
  Damn it. Who do you think you are dr.
• 25:16
  Shane. Douglas.
• 25:17
  Come on now. Yeah, well yeah that was my
• 25:20
  first thought. I'm like all she has to do is
• 25:22
  reach over and go. That's a correct point of view
• 25:26
  right there. Yeah, well I always look for
• 25:30
  logic and wrestling because God forbid, something makes sense.
• 25:34
  If the Russo management of me. What you'd expect on AA?
• 25:38
  No. But, you know, so we got be B,
• 25:41
  minus B plus. We're all right.
• 25:43
  They're around it, averaged out to be.
• 25:44
  So I was right. I'm just kidding.
• 25:48
  No, we're all right. There in the same area.
• 25:50
  So we'll go ahead and we'll move on to the next bacalao.
• 25:54
  I mean, the next match we get Scott Putski versus Brian
• 25:57
  Christopher and spoiler alert awesome.
• 26:01
  My favorite match of the night. Yeah, this one.
• 26:05
  This one's a little bad but and nothing.
• 26:07
  Nobody's fault of anything. Well, maybe steroids, but no.
• 26:13
  These intentional fault in this one.
• 26:15
  I'll tell you are, so they come out and of course, we all know
• 26:18
  that Brian, Christopher's, Jerry, Lawler's kid, and I
• 26:21
  absolutely lost my mind when the crowd starts chanting, Jerry's
• 26:27
  kid and I, oh my God, I'm like, what are they chanting?
• 26:32
  I'm like cheer. Oh my God.
• 26:33
  That's great. Because if you guys are too
• 26:36
  young, I remembered what Jerry's kids were.
• 26:39
  It was a Telethon that Jerry, Lee Lewis did for.
• 26:43
  How do I? The mentally handicapped
• 26:47
  children. I believe it over with special
• 26:49
  needs children with special needs.
• 26:50
  That's a better way of putting it.
• 26:52
  So when they start chanting Jerry's kid, which they,
• 26:55
  literally, you're just double entendre NG and big, Jerry
• 26:58
  Lawler's kid lost. My freaking mind.
• 27:02
  I'll go out of the only one that like pop for that because I
• 27:06
  thought that was hilarious. Like, I was like, nah, no way
• 27:10
  they're not and I was like, yeah, this is one of those
• 27:13
  things. I, I'm sure.
• 27:16
  My neighbors in my apartment building.
• 27:17
  Like what the hell is? This guy's problem watching like
• 27:20
  he's finally cracked. Now I'm like, what are you can't
• 27:23
  think? Jerry's Kids.
• 27:24
  Oh okay. And it's one of those saying I'm
• 27:26
  just like, I'd be like what was that mean?
• 27:29
  Gary's kid. Yeah, Cherry's kid.
• 27:32
  And this is one of those things that does not fly in 2022, not
• 27:36
  at all. But in 1997, taking the moment
• 27:41
  another lifetime another time, perhaps they buy the hell, they
• 27:45
  were pushing it with Eugene back in the early 2000s Well that
• 27:49
  took it to a whole new level. This was not exactly what they
• 27:53
  were doing. I can make the case.
• 27:55
  You know they were more yeah because he Lawler was trying to
• 27:58
  deny, he's not my kid. But anyway, all right Arnold, do
• 28:01
  you want to tell us about this match?
• 28:08
  Sorry, I'm still laughing about the crowd.
• 28:11
  Yeah. Well, they was the best part of
• 28:14
  the match, honestly. Like, how do you deny?
• 28:16
  But he looks just like you Lawler.
• 28:20
  That's the joke. I mean, I mean that's what I
• 28:23
  love about it, but I don't know this guy.
• 28:26
  Whatever to laugh is the last it's giving the crown.
• 28:30
  You'll people think they didn't got transported back to Smoky
• 28:33
  Mountain, but anyway, And I was kind of like up and down in this
• 28:40
  match I didn't really watch a whole lot of it.
• 28:44
  I did see a pretty nice German suplex from Brian Christopher.
• 28:47
  So that was pretty cool and Pinky dumping him out of the
• 28:52
  ring to go for a pescado, which didn't look too great.
• 28:56
  Since husky. Apparently twisted his knee
• 28:59
  pretty good oh god oh man. Like yeah yeah.
• 29:05
  That had to hurt dislocated kneecap and torn quad.
• 29:10
  Who'd look this I mean it was a legit injury.
• 29:16
  Was, I guess somebody had it out for Putski apparently something
• 29:18
  because didn't that was yeah, that was a lie.
• 29:21
  Jit and injury that pretty much into his time there.
• 29:25
  Yeah. Then they had to do the whole
• 29:26
  improv Lawler, coming over making fun of him and then he
• 29:30
  got counted out. This was going to be.
• 29:34
  This Christopher was going over on this.
• 29:35
  This was his debut pay-per-view match and his first Feud they
• 29:40
  were. I'm not saying they're gonna
• 29:42
  push him to the moon, but you could see this kid had a bright
• 29:44
  spot. He was, he was a be that cocky
• 29:48
  laugh at that laughs still to this day gets It's me, love it.
• 29:53
  Just that look on his face and that he laughs just love it.
• 29:58
  He was, he's one of my all-time under favored, almost a underdog
• 30:02
  but midcard, performs, especially when he gets in a tag
• 30:07
  team later. We'll see with a certain
• 30:10
  derriere manager, third partner, whatever you want to call him.
• 30:16
  But this yeah, this was, this was nothing to me.
• 30:19
  This was just it was an Drew that happened, the middle of the
• 30:22
  match, and it had to stop, but key, there's no way you're going
• 30:25
  to go with a torn quad and a dislocated kneecap.
• 30:30
  I've seen, I've been, I've seen two dislocated knee caps of my
• 30:33
  life in person and yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 30:42
  One of them was a guy in college were playing flag football
• 30:46
  Arnold. You may have been there that
• 30:47
  day. I don't remember.
• 30:48
  Were you there the day, Danny dislocated?
• 30:50
  His kneecap Playing flag football or touch football.
• 30:55
  No but I remember hearing about yeah lips bad.
• 30:57
  Oh he was just running all the sudden and just like I was
• 31:01
  chasing behind him and saw his kneecap just he put his foot
• 31:04
  down, it just shifted over side and you could see it.
• 31:08
  And I'm like, oh gosh, he just went down in a heap.
• 31:14
  Yeah, but it was bad. So this one is what I'm not
• 31:17
  gonna lighting grade. This I gave it an incomplete.
• 31:19
  It didn't one. Didn't end the way it was
• 31:22
  supposed to. It was Obviously you know, legit
• 31:26
  injury happened. So this was just nothing to me.
• 31:29
  That was unfortunate circumstance.
• 31:32
  So I just gave it an incomplete. But what about you geek?
• 31:36
  The you're actually gonna grate. All right?
• 31:41
  Like it deserve a great is a decayed out of here.
• 31:43
  Get out of my face. All right.
• 31:47
  I was like, I'll, you know who Scott plus the guy was like,
• 31:50
  okay, cool. There's like, I know, Brian
• 31:53
  Christopher. He's Oh cool.
• 31:55
  I guess you could say he's too cool whoo-hoo.
• 31:58
  So did their suits to death? Yeah, I met the guy I danced
• 32:03
  with the guy, you know, Dance challenge everything.
• 32:05
  So that's awesome. Not on.
• 32:10
  I was like, yeah, this one here. I didn't bring this one either
• 32:14
  because yeah, this is kind of the same thing.
• 32:16
  It's kind of like, I don't know what.
• 32:19
  Plans, they have for the match. Maybe is just to kind of show
• 32:21
  off. Hey breakfast.
• 32:22
  The for knows. If you flips, he'll be in the
• 32:23
  lightweight, heavyweight tournament, whatever.
• 32:26
  And that's all I got from that basically was that was going to
• 32:30
  be a showcase is going to be a squash any way.
• 32:33
  And not really squash but it was we the outcome was never in
• 32:38
  doubt at the beginning but just the, I do know.
• 32:41
  It's unfortunate circumstances, it's not me nothing you could
• 32:45
  really do. So it's kind of like, for me at
• 32:47
  least you have was kind of hard to Could a great on this
• 32:50
  considering? Okay.
• 32:52
  Got to do this on the Fly. Kind of thing.
• 32:57
  Yeah yeah. I mean I would have liked to
• 32:59
  sing this match because I could book this match what I would
• 33:02
  have done is had him go back and forth.
• 33:05
  Christopher needs to put Putski away and suddenly he just used
• 33:10
  the Piledriver and everybody's like Jerry's kid Grace get and
• 33:14
  he's like no no no going Lawler's like yeah that's how
• 33:18
  you do it. My boy.
• 33:19
  Oh crap. I mean not my kid.
• 33:23
  Know her. I don't know or just having walk
• 33:26
  off. Billy Gene, I don't know,
• 33:28
  something like that, but anywho, yeah, it was.
• 33:33
  It's unfortunate thing. And hey, this ain't ballet folks
• 33:36
  injuries happen and sometimes you don't go on.
• 33:40
  All right, speaking of things that probably shouldn't go on
• 33:42
  any farther Arnold. Tell us what comes next?
• 33:45
  Oh man, so you guys been keeping up with this whole gang wars
• 33:49
  Saga going on right now. You know.
• 33:54
  Okay good. So this next match will make
• 33:58
  just as much sense to use it did to the three men in the ring.
• 34:01
  I'm of course talking about Crush versus Savio, Vega versus
• 34:05
  Farooq no way. Sis gang-affiliated Wars the the
• 34:10
  leaders of each stable pretty much pretty mud and Yeah.
• 34:21
  Triple Threat matches. I can imagine or pretty rough
• 34:23
  the book consider. You got three grown adults in
• 34:27
  the ring and they have to try to remember spots and then you
• 34:30
  always got that awkward thing where two people are doing a big
• 34:33
  spot. In the other guys is kind of
• 34:35
  awkwardly laying on the mat or laying on the apron or laying
• 34:39
  outside and it's just like yeah, that would make me
• 34:42
  uncomfortable. Yeah.
• 34:43
  Usually people have 33 and a third percent chance of winning.
• 34:46
  Hmm. Well, if you take You're 33 and
• 34:49
  a third percent chance and not got can't I can't.
• 34:55
  It's in our contract. We have to reference that promo,
• 34:58
  at least once. Thank you, for bringing it to
• 35:01
  our attention. Yeah, well this is it was just
• 35:09
  said recently, so I had to remember it.
• 35:13
  I don't like Triple Threat matches in this.
• 35:14
  That's one of the reasons why there's always two guys fighting
• 35:17
  and one guy laying there. Doing nothing or the one I hate
• 35:20
  and everybody does it now and I'll give him credit.
• 35:23
  I Really see it in. This point is two guys will
• 35:27
  start. One guy will get dumped to the
• 35:30
  outside and then you can see him on his knees.
• 35:34
  Trying to hide from the camera, looking up over the apron going
• 35:39
  or as my turn. Now don't come in.
• 35:40
  Now it looks so fake. So phony and so stupid.
• 35:47
  Or if you've got like eight man matches and you've got two
• 35:51
  people fighting in the ring and you've got six people.
• 35:54
  Being in a cluster on the outside going.
• 35:56
  All right, we're here to catch you go.
• 35:59
  Yep. Undertaker.
• 36:03
  And then the last final guy in the background like, okay, I'll
• 36:06
  fall down anyways, well even though the touch me, but we'll
• 36:10
  get to that at the end, and that one makes a little more sense
• 36:14
  and I'll explain why later, but we'll get there.
• 36:19
  All right, arm, sorry, I interrupted.
• 36:21
  Oh no, it's fine. These guys did that a lot in
• 36:25
  this match. Well, you're doing a thing, hold
• 36:28
  it all. Sorry I missed I missed my mark
• 36:30
  which again I'm not really. Going to put these guys to fall
• 36:34
  for that because triple threat match, but in these were still
• 36:38
  relatively new at this time. Mmm.
• 36:41
  And this is one of those things where, I mean, there's a lot of
• 36:43
  boxes and yeah, mean that right there, kind of took me out of
• 36:47
  it. The fact that this whole gang
• 36:48
  wars thing is still a thing kind of took me out of it a little
• 36:53
  bit. And my thing is leading up to
• 36:56
  this. You show them all usually
• 36:59
  somewhere in the back. Duking it out, everybody versus
• 37:03
  everybody pretty much and this whole like street fight scenario
• 37:07
  it's gang wars. Why was the stipulation not a
• 37:09
  street fight? They had that already remember
• 37:14
  they did they did it again the right this gang wars well they
• 37:19
  had with a z it was what it was there.
• 37:24
  So cool. What was like they're hit their
• 37:27
  Urban. Yeah, we got to have.
• 37:29
  Yeah. Oh God bro. um yeah, we had the
• 37:32
  street fight, it was Farooq and I can't remember versus who was
• 37:39
  he with? Matt Johnson knows.
• 37:42
  Was it our matter? No, it was versus versus
• 37:45
  anybody. It was the Road Warriors and
• 37:47
  Ahmed Johnson versus Farouk. I'll all Farouk comma and yeah,
• 37:54
  you know D. So we've had the kind of a
• 37:56
  street fight so I kind of get that one.
• 37:58
  But my point is, there was no interference in this world.
• 38:01
  Was there was all their buds. What was the type of regular
• 38:05
  match? Even though you're in a gang,
• 38:07
  don't worry. It'll make sense bro.
• 38:10
  Yeah okay yeah yeah that actually know that jumps my
• 38:14
  grade up to an a yeah that makes perfect sense.
• 38:17
  When you think about it that was They were like you Kiki.
• 38:24
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, this sorry. I interrupted again Arnold.
• 38:32
  I keep doing that. You're fine.
• 38:36
  Like, I mean, honestly, I'm he's my Celtic is this mouth was for
• 38:40
  the simple fact that it's like, I mean and I guess, yeah.
• 38:43
  It may be a thing yet we've already done the street fight.
• 38:46
  I get that but I guess. Yeah that's my thing for life
• 38:50
  for this match. The especially if you have like
• 38:52
  23 head honchos of these gangs going up against each other.
• 38:56
  Like there's only two ways you can go about it's a street
• 39:00
  fight. Or the wind the Jets and the
• 39:04
  sharks have their match with are all snap in and play with knives
• 39:07
  from the West Side Story. Hey cool, bro.
• 39:10
  Yes Anka. Cool, bro.
• 39:11
  Like it there shouldn't I for me, it should have been like,
• 39:14
  well you guys are the leaders of gangs.
• 39:16
  Let's put you in like a regular sanctioned match.
• 39:21
  And you know it makes sense to have these 3 Guys on a paper
• 39:24
  because who remembers any of the other guys names.
• 39:28
  Exactly. Yeah, I can't tell you other
• 39:31
  than Savio. Vega.
• 39:33
  I can't tell you any more. I can tell you one member of
• 39:37
  lows. Barrique was And we all know
• 39:40
  who's from the nation, but that's because they later turned
• 39:43
  out to be different people, right?
• 39:45
  And then 8, ball and chains. The twins parents: 8 ball.
• 39:52
  Fake undertaker. It's called a ball and then
• 39:54
  change the fake undertaker. AKA The Blues Brothers bruise,
• 39:58
  Brothers. Okay.
• 40:00
  Bryan Adams ripe time, Bryan Adams.
• 40:03
  Yeah, yeah but yeah, I don't remember anybody from Lowe's
• 40:07
  prequels. And speaking of that did anybody
• 40:10
  thinks it's obvious? Vega was winning this.
• 40:12
  No. Did that just come out of
• 40:15
  complete left field out room for Farooq.
• 40:18
  I was too. I will I didn't wasn't so much
• 40:21
  routing Furfrou. I mean, I want any limit, I
• 40:24
  really did think he was the one that was going to come out of
• 40:26
  this, and I completely didn't see that.
• 40:29
  I will give, whoever booked is finished.
• 40:31
  Whoever it may be some credit for two reasons.
• 40:35
  A didn't see it coming the way they did it.
• 40:39
  It was kind of clever. And I think, I think if we're
• 40:44
  going to have this three faction War, I think it was time to
• 40:46
  debrief was needed a win because they were kind of just Okay, we
• 40:50
  still your bikes, we fight in the garage.
• 40:55
  And we haven't done much. I think they needed a win and I
• 40:57
  think this kind of looks kind of nice way to do it, a little
• 41:00
  sneaky sneaky win there and then we steal your woman and then we
• 41:04
  go out to party. Okay?
• 41:06
  Okay. Hey there we go, let's go.
• 41:13
  Do you remember his name like later on?
• 41:16
  He shaved? If I wait till now Miguel
• 41:20
  Estrada. Oh, that was one of them.
• 41:23
  Wow. You remember his name?
• 41:25
  Only because now that I remember he's the one that edge paralyzed
• 41:30
  match. It was a total accident.
• 41:34
  It wasn't you know I wasn't anything egregious Edge did.
• 41:36
  It was just a mistake and not even want to stay really just, I
• 41:39
  think that happened. But anyway, but yeah, did I skip
• 41:44
  to the finish and die? Interrupt you again, you skip to
• 41:46
  the Finish, you're good. The Finish we were just about
• 41:49
  there. Because yeah, like that was my
• 41:57
  thing, too. I was going to say, the Finish
• 41:59
  is not go. The way I was expecting.
• 42:01
  So they did sort of me there because I was like, yeah, fruits
• 42:05
  got this in the bag, he didn't know, it was like it's all gravy
• 42:11
  dude. No, I mean, when Crush hit
• 42:15
  Farooq with that, heart punch farooq's told it.
• 42:17
  Like, he shot him with a 44 caliber.
• 42:21
  I mean, I'm like, oh my god, I've never seen someone so a
• 42:24
  heart punch like that. I mean he's grabbing his chest
• 42:27
  and flopping around like a fish out of water.
• 42:31
  They say he got Tricks from got tip from Devon.
• 42:36
  Yeah. Then he turned then Crush turned
• 42:40
  around and eats the spinning. He'll kick my butt, Savio Vega.
• 42:43
  I'm like, did not see that coming out at.
• 42:45
  I mean, that little just out of nowhere and that was a really
• 42:48
  nice way to end this. What a maneuver that was about.
• 42:59
  The only way I can see that any because it had been kind of like
• 43:02
  looking at that from that perspective, it's been a kind of
• 43:05
  silly to see You know how precious A Hard Punch off of
• 43:10
  Route in Sabio, just kind of standing there.
• 43:13
  It's like yeah I did it like oh well they're just standing there
• 43:16
  your turn. Like I would have probably
• 43:19
  turned off my television after that out of like, okay, this was
• 43:23
  dumb. I want my money back.
• 43:25
  Yeah, yeah, I agree there. What did you give this Arnold?
• 43:31
  I gave this a d because like I said this like just yeah, just
• 43:35
  thinking about it at least from an aspect of the whole gang wars
• 43:38
  thing. Just having it be your
• 43:40
  traditional triple threat match. Just seems Really.
• 43:46
  All right geek. See you - my people want, you
• 43:50
  know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, fair enough.
• 43:57
  We we had the Nation versus the white people with the biker
• 44:03
  gangs and then we had eight. The Puerto Ricans have entered
• 44:07
  the chat. So you know, soon as I be a
• 44:11
  bigger wins, I'm like, yeah, yes, freakin Rican.
• 44:22
  Okay, well, you know, representation and Samuel
• 44:24
  Beckett represented my people so just like all right.
• 44:27
  Cool. Except for the hairy guy?
• 44:29
  No, we don't like that. All right.
• 44:34
  All right. Um, so I'm the only one that
• 44:35
  really like this match. So I got to sit, I guess I got
• 44:38
  to say it. Try to defend it a little bit.
• 44:40
  I don't know, I guess I was in a good mood.
• 44:42
  Maybe, I don't know, I gave this a b - it wasn't the greatest
• 44:45
  thing I've ever seen. And yes, as a trip all as a rule
• 44:50
  99.9% of triple that threats are bad.
• 44:54
  And I knew that especially knowing if seeing four hundred
• 44:58
  and eighty six thousand of them in the last 25 years because
• 45:03
  it's a booking. It's a booking crotch and it
• 45:06
  anymore. Oh, we got three people.
• 45:08
  We can't figure out How to do Triple Threat three way.
• 45:11
  Dance, triangle, fatal 4-way, whatever we get for how-to book,
• 45:16
  right? So let's throw them all at once
• 45:18
  anyway but this this had some spots in it it was an absolute
• 45:24
  spot Fest but that's what a triple threat pretty much has to
• 45:27
  be. It's either three guys beat the
• 45:29
  crap out of each other once or it's going to be a spot Fest.
• 45:32
  So I kind of graded on what I guess I'd call the triple threat
• 45:35
  curve and this was a Not really. Another thing was my
• 45:41
  expectations were low lower than Arnold voice that I can't get
• 45:46
  down to our Arnold. Show me how low my expectations
• 45:49
  were low. There's my expectations.
• 45:53
  So when it went to about here, I was thoroughly impressed, alt
• 45:58
  enthralled. Yeah.
• 46:01
  And the finish, I really like the finish and I think that
• 46:03
  added another have some points to it because I didn't see it
• 46:07
  coming. And when I don't see it, Finish
• 46:09
  coming and it completely surprises me in a good way that
• 46:13
  I think is a logical good thing to do, write that down.
• 46:17
  If Rousseau book this that I said it was a logical good thing
• 46:20
  to do. I'm okay with it.
• 46:22
  So I'm going to stick with my be - I like that.
• 46:25
  So, B minus C minus and D. So we're descending into chaos
• 46:30
  here speaking. What, what, what could
• 46:34
  absolutely follow us. I can tell you is I'm glad you
• 46:39
  asked my friend. That would be no tall task to
• 46:43
  follow this match. As speaking of representation,
• 46:47
  huh? No doubt.
• 46:48
  Hold on, hold on. I want to try that again.
• 46:51
  Following this match was no tall task.
• 46:57
  Crickets. Damn.
• 46:57
  You all screw you both. That was funny.
• 46:59
  Damn it. Your joke with a little short.
• 47:04
  Oh, piss off. Anyway.
• 47:09
  Well if you haven't figured out by now, we're all.
• 47:11
  So we're all obviously talking about a Mexican minis match and
• 47:16
  Arnold. What did I do?
• 47:18
  What did I immediately do? Through this crap.
• 47:33
  What I fell for this. I did because I ain't got time
• 47:37
  for this. And it's not because it's a
• 47:40
  Mexican minis match, or whatever.
• 47:43
  If you show me something on a pay-per-view that has no story,
• 47:46
  no, nothing. Nobody.
• 47:48
  I've seen on TV or before I'm skipping it, unless, you build
• 47:53
  it up as like, this is this guy's debut, he's going to be
• 47:56
  important, but if, but if I'm sitting here, I ain't got time
• 48:00
  to watch. You know what, whatever?
• 48:04
  I don't know, the guys name. I didn't write it down or
• 48:07
  anything, but I ain't got time for that.
• 48:11
  So if you watch this and want to talk about Hugh Arnold, did you
• 48:14
  watch this? Okay?
• 48:16
  Well you guys go right ahead and I will sit back and not say a
• 48:19
  damn word. I will go on mute, right?
• 48:25
  All right. Well now he's out of the way.
• 48:28
  Yeah, Mexican minis match. El Torito taking on Max Mini.
• 48:35
  I was actually impressed with this because usually when WWF
• 48:40
  brings on the like the Lucha's or the mini Lucha's, they spend
• 48:45
  the however, majority of the match explaining that these guys
• 48:49
  wrestle in Mexico, it's kind of, like, dude, this is American
• 48:57
  television in the 90s like, The only International TV shows.
• 49:03
  I remember watching as a kid. Were the ones that came on PBS
• 49:06
  from Britain? Like I'm not watching AAA I'm
• 49:12
  not watching. I mean honest I didn't really
• 49:15
  know much about the wrestling culture in Japan at the time, it
• 49:18
  was like, I mean, I'm not watching Japanese wrestling.
• 49:22
  All I get is what I get from Eric Bischoff and Vince McMahon
• 49:26
  every Monday and like, so I don't need that.
• 49:30
  But I was able to kind of get rid of the commentary and pay
• 49:36
  attention to this mess. There was a lot of high spots
• 49:39
  and honestly it would look like honestly to me.
• 49:43
  It looked like what you were seeing on WCW at the time with a
• 49:46
  lot of their luchadores and stuff like that.
• 49:49
  And it was a really fun Master Watch and the Crowd was into it
• 49:53
  which is shocking for a Luchador match and WWF because like
• 49:56
  usually the crowds is kind of there but not these guys are
• 49:59
  into it and I believe it was a think it was Minimax went out
• 50:06
  and sat on Lawler's lap. Yeah and the crowd starts to
• 50:09
  chant Jerry's kids again. Another kid.
• 50:14
  Yes I was amazing. I was just like are you kidding
• 50:18
  me is like what do these people have against Jerry's Kids?
• 50:23
  Or maybe they really like it. I don't know.
• 50:26
  It is Kentucky after all and got out to the state of Kentucky
• 50:32
  yah, right? Plus you're my neighbor and I
• 50:35
  don't want you to like leave poop on my front yard or
• 50:37
  something but yeah I got side of that like me We go right to the
• 50:42
  finish here is like I got a huge head students and arm drags and
• 50:47
  yeah it was just it was just fun to watch and Max ends up winning
• 50:51
  what a sunset flip. and, Like I said, of the matches like this,
• 50:57
  I've seen so far at this point when these pay-per-views, this
• 51:01
  was probably the best one. I also kind of also do like
• 51:07
  Cruiserweight wrestling at least at this time because it was fun
• 51:11
  to watch. Thank you, says bullshit.
• 51:27
  God. Do me like that.
• 51:28
  Sorry, I'm on my favorite movies of all time.
• 51:32
  Yeah, maybe I'm maybe I'm sad. I missed this match.
• 51:35
  Maybe I'm not. But what do you think about it
• 51:37
  geek? Hey, you missed a lot of work on
• 51:41
  us and you know, spinning heel kick sand tilt, the world
• 51:46
  backbreakers again, another her Karana and another hurricanrana
• 51:50
  and another drop kick. And you know, like okay, Tommy
• 51:55
  plan When they talk about this giant story Lon it was a
• 52:02
  nightmare it was fine. It got more over than Scott plus
• 52:06
  key. So at that point it's like okay
• 52:10
  cool. At that point I was watching
• 52:12
  cmll AAA. So I knew whom X-Men, he was
• 52:16
  must edit the Serrata, but I think this is the part where
• 52:19
  they decide, hey, let's bring in the Spanish commentators also
• 52:23
  and let's have him bump. Oh mustard.
• 52:28
  Because we're gonna do all that shit.
• 52:30
  So know speaking of representation, you know it was
• 52:33
  a little short but you know okay I Look to Max many nice pun.
• 52:42
  Hey Max Mini walked so that Hornswoggle could run.
• 52:46
  Okay. I'd think you'd say Max, many
• 52:50
  walks of Hornswoggle, could waddle, whatever I'm going to
• 52:56
  hell. Hey, I'll join you.
• 53:02
  Well, I did woggle Hornswoggle. Anyway.
• 53:07
  All right, well, you know what, so did you grade this?
• 53:12
  What you created. Now would you grade is Arnold?
• 53:16
  How does the I gave it a b - because I mean even with as good
• 53:19
  as the match was It was essentially there to be filler.
• 53:24
  Yeah yeah. That's another part of my point.
• 53:27
  Could we not have Saul? The Rock maybe we've turned him
• 53:33
  heal and he hasn't. I mean we turned him he'll give
• 53:36
  him a feud trips Mick Foley. I mean, I can go on and on.
• 53:45
  Somebody else we could see Sable, no.
• 53:52
  I want I want to see a talent. All right, did you greet your
• 53:55
  geek? Let's see.
• 53:58
  All right, well that's enough time for that.
• 54:00
  So we'll move on to somebody that actually deserve to be on
• 54:05
  the show and that would be Sergeant.
• 54:07
  Slaughter comes down says he's going to do his job, balling.
• 54:12
  Good. When you're getting paid to,
• 54:15
  shout out to Sergeant Slaughter. Yay.
• 54:19
  Go chance. Anyway, so dude love comes down
• 54:23
  and he says I hate to do it but he said I would go out and give
• 54:27
  it my all by myself. But I'm not gonna do it any
• 54:30
  relinquishes, the tag belt, which is kind of sad because
• 54:33
  that's like the first belt like Mick Foley ever won.
• 54:37
  Like legit make. Oh, that's a good chat.
• 54:41
  Yeah, but then Stone Cold comes down, immediately goes nose the
• 54:47
  chin with Slaughter and I'm like, oh, this is getting good.
• 54:53
  Ah, and It's near stone-cold says, now, I do what I want.
• 54:58
  Blah blah, blah, you can't control me Jr.
• 55:01
  Goes to ask him a question, Steve.
• 55:03
  Doesn't like it, and just just tons, Jr, right.
• 55:06
  In the middle of the Ring. Huge freaking pop.
• 55:11
  First stone cold. He is so over.
• 55:13
  He can stun the baby-faced announcer and get a pop for it.
• 55:18
  This guy could probably go out in the middle of the Ring.
• 55:23
  Slit the throat of A puppy and the people would cheer it.
• 55:27
  You can't go wrong with Steve Austin, right now, he's the most
• 55:30
  over thing in wrestling probably in history, right here.
• 55:34
  And I'm loving it. And I love, I'm leaving a lot
• 55:39
  out of this segment. Go watch it.
• 55:41
  I should have pulled some clips and played a little bit of this
• 55:44
  but this was perfect. T' way too because we all know
• 55:49
  alston's hurt with his neck at this point.
• 55:51
  This is just a way to get him on TV on the Pay-Per-View.
• 55:57
  And in front of audiences and still, you know, to be able to
• 56:00
  use e and this was a brilliant way to do it.
• 56:03
  I liked it. He got a little physical because
• 56:06
  he gave a stunner but you know, nothing huge.
• 56:11
  I love this. This was one of the this was the
• 56:15
  best thing on the show to me and Angela.
• 56:17
  This this was it and that's taking nothing away from the
• 56:20
  matches. We've got left, which we've got
• 56:22
  what three? Yeah, we've got three good
• 56:26
  matches left. Don't get me wrong spoiler.
• 56:30
  But this, I love this and this gets an absolute rare grade for
• 56:36
  me. I graded this because it was
• 56:37
  like it was pretty long, this is what 10 minutes.
• 56:39
  Maybe hmm I graded this This gets an A+ for me, this was
• 56:45
  wrestling Perfection. Everybody involved.
• 56:49
  What do you think? Hey.
• 56:58
  Don't be afraid to argue with me.
• 56:59
  No, no. As it's love.
• 57:00
  I mean, obviously I love the stunners every time.
• 57:03
  Somebody is so freaking perfect. And that year was whole Stone,
• 57:09
  Cold, and then Owen Hart, incident happened, and you just
• 57:14
  need to like something was going on him.
• 57:17
  Baking the belt and I'm surprised you didn't give me a
• 57:22
  call. Just utter like and Mick Foley's
• 57:28
  Like calm down. Calm down.
• 57:30
  Like three Rock, N. Sock connection?
• 57:34
  Yeah. Middle finger and sock
• 57:36
  connection. Yeah.
• 57:42
  The tie-dye finger connection? Hey, did you grade it at all?
• 57:49
  No. All right.
• 57:50
  I did a segment. I doubt if Arnold did either.
• 57:53
  I was of the I don't little grade sake of it's either.
• 57:55
  But now this one for what it was like you said this is Way to get
• 57:58
  Austin on TV and also, I should have graded this because it's
• 58:02
  technically wasn't match. It was a stone-cold and Dude
• 58:07
  Love versus vacant and vacant one, make it more than bacon.
• 58:12
  Bacon is the most decorated champion in the history of
• 58:15
  professional wrestling. It's Cherry.
• 58:16
  Wait for him to be in the Hall of Fame.
• 58:19
  That's all that doesn't mean ones and it was amazing, the WWE
• 58:23
  Hall of Fame Logan, easy vacant next to it.
• 58:25
  I don't like it in there before, stable.
• 58:30
  Yeah, I would. But yeah, this this whole Thing
• 58:34
  in a way. It's kind of like you see the
• 58:37
  emotion in it in all of it really, which is weird to say
• 58:42
  about a wrestling show, but not really but like, you know, do
• 58:46
  love, you know, he, you know, yeah.
• 58:47
  Like you said, you know, I put my Blood Sweat and Tears into
• 58:50
  the ring and you know, whatever I can't do it alone and then you
• 58:56
  have a Austin. Obviously pissed off comes out.
• 59:02
  You know, doesn't want to relinquish the belt then when he
• 59:04
  finally does, he throws it at Slaughters feet and says, long
• 59:08
  as you drop down and give me 20 jackass and I was because I was
• 59:15
  so Cold. Steve, Austin.
• 59:16
  Relinquished give me a hell. Yeah.
• 59:28
  After that. Yeah, that was kind of a little
• 59:32
  Yeah. Because I was like, well may I
• 59:36
  guess somebody had to get it and give it to the commentator, he's
• 59:39
  not doing anything. So let's Slaughter, he took
• 59:42
  something to Chin, sorry, sir. Please don't follow me from
• 59:47
  Twitter but yeah. All in all though this was fun
• 59:53
  like you know Slaughter makes his way back into try to kind of
• 59:56
  calm things down. Awesome gives them the double
• 59:58
  Washington salute. On the way out.
• 1:00:02
  Of course, again the Crowd. Just Eating out of the palm of
• 1:00:07
  Austin's hand just as I got these people right where I need
• 1:00:10
  them. And the other thing was, it was
• 1:00:14
  entertaining. Yeah, he's over like nobody else
• 1:00:18
  has been since we've started this podcast.
• 1:00:21
  And he's not even close to where he will finish.
• 1:00:23
  It's insane. It is insane.
• 1:00:26
  Speaking of people who are insane.
• 1:00:28
  We go to the back with is that, that's Michael Hayes.
• 1:00:32
  I refuse to call him doc Hendricks, he's a bulldog and
• 1:00:35
  Owen and they both just cut a promo once Alston for some
• 1:00:39
  reason. Blah, blah blah.
• 1:00:43
  Vince McMahon called stone called the jackass on
• 1:00:45
  commentary. I love that.
• 1:00:46
  That's hilarious. All right.
• 1:00:49
  Well let's move on to our next match.
• 1:00:51
  We have a four-way tag team match for the Recently.
• 1:00:58
  Vacated don't know if y'all heard that the tires are now
• 1:01:03
  titles have now been vacated as of 30 seconds ago.
• 1:01:06
  So we have The Headbangers versus the god, ones versus
• 1:01:11
  bulldog and Owen. Versus the Road Warriors.
• 1:01:17
  And going going into this match. I knew I didn't know who won
• 1:01:23
  this going in the match. I knew who was, I thought, well,
• 1:01:29
  I'm not the South fight. I knew what was going to happen
• 1:01:32
  with the Road Warriors, but I knew they weren't going to win
• 1:01:34
  this, this wasn't their time, not a big enough show.
• 1:01:37
  They need to win it probably in Chicago and their gimmick
• 1:01:40
  hometown. Shout out to Chicago.
• 1:01:43
  Whoo Peak represent up there so I knew there was gold.
• 1:01:51
  Everyone have to be written out of this.
• 1:01:52
  Some exempt pain in them, you ain't beating them.
• 1:01:55
  The only way you're going to pin him in this match is if the
• 1:01:58
  other 6 decide to jump on him at once and hold him down.
• 1:02:02
  That's the only way her winning this.
• 1:02:04
  So, I knew they were going to get written out at some point
• 1:02:08
  and lo and behold. Henry godwinn come in comes in
• 1:02:13
  with a bucket. I'll grabs it uses it and gets
• 1:02:17
  dq'd and that's how they get written out.
• 1:02:18
  So I knew that was coming. I didn't like how bulldog and
• 1:02:23
  Owen didn't get in this match like at all ever.
• 1:02:27
  During this thing they just like refused to get in.
• 1:02:30
  I get that that's like a chicken.
• 1:02:31
  He'll move. But that's more of a mute,
• 1:02:35
  something you should use on Raw, I wouldn't use that as a
• 1:02:38
  pay-per-view angle, just didn't make a didn't sit with me real
• 1:02:42
  well, but I will say when it comes down to it at the ending,
• 1:02:48
  when it's just the bank, the bangers, The Headbangers, and
• 1:02:52
  bulldog and Owen left, I really thought they were gonna put the
• 1:02:55
  belts back on Owen. And Davey Boy, did not did not
• 1:03:01
  see. The Headbangers stunning them
• 1:03:05
  are now Lily stunning them but they didn't win clean.
• 1:03:09
  So, that's a little. I mean, if you're going to put
• 1:03:12
  them over there, I don't like new Champions, not winning clean
• 1:03:16
  when it's their first win. So what happens is 0 and
• 1:03:22
  accidentally hits bulldog with his spinning heel kick when I
• 1:03:25
  think it was small schlern. Yeah of moss.
• 1:03:27
  Duct Here Comes Austin. He comes in gives 0 in the
• 1:03:31
  stunner Headbangers pin 1, 2 3, new tag Champs.
• 1:03:35
  Well, the referee yet. Let's not talk about logic and
• 1:03:41
  things. Yeah, we're free was so blind.
• 1:03:47
  Yeah he was. Yeah he was not he was not there
• 1:03:52
  but anywho. Um yeah I just don't like the
• 1:03:55
  new Champions getting pinned Babyface Champions getting
• 1:03:58
  pinned off of shenanigans. I would have just had The
• 1:04:03
  Headbangers Wing clean here. You know, and I accidentally
• 1:04:07
  kicks Bulldog. They hit the stage dive.
• 1:04:09
  One, two, three, given the give him a shot.
• 1:04:12
  This kind of taints their Victory a little in my eyes.
• 1:04:15
  Like they didn't really Win. It Austin came in and wanted for
• 1:04:19
  them. So I don't know but other words
• 1:04:22
  other than that, this was a really good because this wasn't
• 1:04:26
  a whole lot of I was afraid. This was going to just delve
• 1:04:30
  into eight men in the ring all the time.
• 1:04:33
  No, I thought this was going to be Young Bucks match.
• 1:04:37
  Just everybody in the ring. No rules, no tags, no.
• 1:04:39
  Nothing just chaos. And it wasn't this was basically
• 1:04:43
  it almost most of the time and now there were points where you
• 1:04:47
  know, it went in the chaos and that's fine.
• 1:04:49
  Points are fine because not everything.
• 1:04:52
  But this was majority of the time one on one or two one, you
• 1:04:56
  know, a one-on-one then make a tag at, you know, this was a tag
• 1:04:59
  team match. Most of the time just between
• 1:05:01
  four different teams and I like that.
• 1:05:04
  And it reflects, a, my grade. I actually gave this an, A minus
• 1:05:10
  I probably I was in a good mood. This was a good pay-per-view for
• 1:05:12
  me. It hit me.
• 1:05:13
  I guess that a good time Arnold. Would you like about her?
• 1:05:15
  What did you think about this one or not?
• 1:05:18
  Like about this? I don't know.
• 1:05:19
  Whatever. I'll be honest with you, at
• 1:05:23
  first, I thought it was going to be extremely sloppy.
• 1:05:27
  Because mean usually happens, if you have more than two tag teams
• 1:05:31
  in a match half the time, it's the like, you don't know who's
• 1:05:34
  what, why they're doing it or why they're doing or how
• 1:05:37
  whatever, and It kind of look that way at first, but I mean,
• 1:05:43
  once I kind of my once I kept watching a little bit of, like,
• 1:05:47
  okay, things are starting to make sense here.
• 1:05:49
  You know, of course, you have all the crazy Antics going on.
• 1:05:52
  Until there are two teams left and it seems like everything
• 1:05:55
  made sense to me in this one. Like, it wasn't a complete
• 1:05:59
  kerfuffle as it were. And while I will agree, though,
• 1:06:05
  it is weird that they had a baby face, acting kind of Not win,
• 1:06:10
  clean here. But at the same time, I guess is
• 1:06:13
  one of those things like. Well you think about it before
• 1:06:16
  the match? Oh what had some words for
• 1:06:18
  Alston? So all seems like, well, here's
• 1:06:21
  your receipt bud and that's a wild look at it.
• 1:06:24
  So if anything it was just a Austin, getting another chance
• 1:06:27
  to screw over oh and Davey Boy and look at it this way, while
• 1:06:34
  everything else is pretty much predictable.
• 1:06:36
  I mean, the Finish was kind of a swerve.
• 1:06:39
  I love giving this one to be. Well alright.
• 1:06:46
  Well you're not too far off from me.
• 1:06:48
  Sorry. I've lost my pen and can't find
• 1:06:49
  it. Yes.
• 1:06:52
  Yeah I do like the the Finish was out of nowhere.
• 1:06:54
  I will say that either the winter and how.
• 1:06:57
  So I agree there are, what do you think about a geek?
• 1:07:01
  Well it. Yeah, I wasn't expecting to
• 1:07:05
  Headbangers to win at all as soon as the whole
• 1:07:09
  disqualification happen. I'm like wait, what is this as a
• 1:07:12
  little Nation match? Goodness.
• 1:07:15
  Okay, 70 minutes of this great. Um Godwin's of course like
• 1:07:23
  trying to get over the fact that last year Phoenix Godwin was
• 1:07:27
  just like the timid guy and now they just showed up with no
• 1:07:31
  shirt which means their heels now they weren't out and then I
• 1:07:42
  was expecting oh wait and Dave way to win and have another
• 1:07:45
  freaking title on their shoulder.
• 1:07:49
  The Hart Foundation like hate I had to have all the gold know
• 1:07:55
  the least likely people one The Headbangers like at that point I
• 1:08:01
  was like, all right, I'm gonna spit up at the ceiling and then
• 1:08:04
  hope that my spit comes back in my mouth.
• 1:08:11
  Never happen. Um, yeah, I didn't.
• 1:08:16
  I did enjoy the match. I'm gonna give it a b.
• 1:08:19
  That's nice. Huh?
• 1:08:21
  So I'm liking this whole thing more than everybody.
• 1:08:26
  I'm okay with that. Okay.
• 1:08:28
  With that. Um, so a minus B and you said
• 1:08:33
  what Arnold be plus. So me and you are right there.
• 1:08:37
  We're all three right there. I think we can move on from
• 1:08:40
  that. All right, well, we get the
• 1:08:43
  match. We've all been waiting for.
• 1:08:45
  Whoo, the match for the WWF. Heavyweight title Bret Hart,
• 1:08:53
  your Champion versus wait. Listen to As that the Kurt
• 1:08:57
  Angle. No.
• 1:08:59
  Wait the Patriot about to that. I'm usually go into you suck.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah. What right.
• 1:09:09
  I love that mean where it's like somebody, you know, the girl
• 1:09:11
  trying to just explain something the woman on the couch.
• 1:09:14
  Like what it's like me trying to explain to a non wrestling fan
• 1:09:18
  that we can't you suck occurred. Angle because we love thee.
• 1:09:21
  Yeah, that's all. That was a guy who was this guy
• 1:09:26
  till Wilkes Del Wilkes? Yeah, the Patriot former WCW tag
• 1:09:32
  team champion. Anybody know his tag team
• 1:09:34
  partner was Yeah, three names end up dropping one and then he
• 1:09:42
  pretty much end up, dropping the other 12 and only went by
• 1:09:45
  another name. Okay, he was drove Floyd know,
• 1:09:50
  he was tag team partners Hunter Hearst Helmsley.
• 1:09:55
  That's a good guess, but he was tag team partners with somebody
• 1:09:57
  named Marcus Alexander Bagwell. Don't recall that guy to Tom
• 1:10:06
  don't recall. No, but I hear he has the stuff.
• 1:10:08
  He does have the stuff he made was a buff.
• 1:10:12
  He may be buff. Yeah, once but his mom up on a
• 1:10:16
  forklift out here. Good God.
• 1:10:20
  I am cannot wait back so I can wait to get there.
• 1:10:23
  Vinnie, who? We're way way from that thing.
• 1:10:25
  God but God, I don't know if I've got the sanity to sit
• 1:10:30
  through that but anywho it'll make sense brother zi.
• 1:10:34
  We had the Patriot all that red white and blue stuff versus, I
• 1:10:40
  Hate Everything But Canada. Well actually no it's just I
• 1:10:43
  hate America. It's not even Pro Canada, it's
• 1:10:45
  just I hate Americans. Telling me to Patriot.
• 1:10:48
  Got the Lex Luger effect. Pretty much just was Lex, Luger
• 1:10:52
  on, wish kind of its events. Could have put this link in a
• 1:10:58
  bus. I was gonna say, Vince gonna put
• 1:11:00
  this match on an aircraft carrier.
• 1:11:02
  It, we would have solid Air Force One.
• 1:11:06
  For one, I'm waiting for somebody to have a match while
• 1:11:11
  skydiving. Diving Sonic on take that part
• 1:11:16
  out. You didn't hear that Tony Cox.
• 1:11:20
  We go on rampage, the diving out of a plane to please.
• 1:11:24
  Your god get us over 700,000 Tybee Island.
• 1:11:30
  How do you determine the winner? Last one to pull their cord
• 1:11:34
  wins. Darby.
• 1:11:38
  I had died. Oh my God.
• 1:11:44
  Yeah, okay, no we're moving on past that.
• 1:11:48
  I know this nation. So yeah.
• 1:11:52
  So we'll get to this one. I don't want to tell us about
• 1:11:57
  this one. I did the last one.
• 1:12:02
  All right, so I got to say at least step, definitely the
• 1:12:05
  start. Before I get into this Bret Hart
• 1:12:09
  as a heel. Chef's kiss.
• 1:12:14
  Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
• 1:12:18
  And the fact that he's the type of heel that will put on this,
• 1:12:23
  you know, I'm better than you kind of are about himself.
• 1:12:26
  When he's discussing Americans, it's like you Americans and your
• 1:12:29
  McDonald's and Michael Jordan shoes or whatever.
• 1:12:33
  And then he gets in the ring he's just I don't know what the
• 1:12:39
  best word. He's a rat but he's you know
• 1:12:43
  what I mean is like, I'm better than you but I'm going to do
• 1:12:46
  these little dirty tricks is like a.
• 1:12:48
  Yeah, because that's the thing that got me with that when he
• 1:12:51
  started run, the Patriots Oz across the top rope and throws
• 1:12:54
  him in a tree of Woe. And the same Corner that the he
• 1:12:57
  had the American flag hanging from, it was just like that,
• 1:13:01
  right? That's that is heat right there.
• 1:13:04
  So you throw them in a tree or. Whoa, American flags right there
• 1:13:07
  and here. Just kicking the crap out of
• 1:13:08
  this, dude. Like that was just amazing.
• 1:13:12
  And of course, Patriot came back and like, oh yeah, well, here's
• 1:13:16
  a freedom clothesline, or whatever.
• 1:13:19
  And missile drop kicks. The fact that they haven't
• 1:13:23
  called his people dropped the fact that they didn't call his
• 1:13:26
  punches Freedom. Fists is just a missed
• 1:13:29
  opportunity, is a taste of freedom.
• 1:13:39
  And even with that, you know, they get back in the ring,
• 1:13:41
  Brett, you know, scurries to a corner and tries to kind of hide
• 1:13:45
  like he's hitting me with getting just pop it with a sneak
• 1:13:49
  attack. This is, I don't know what it is
• 1:13:52
  about that type of heel for me, but I enjoy that because it
• 1:13:55
  makes you hate them that much more.
• 1:13:58
  It's like fight like a man, like a that's not your gimmick, but
• 1:14:02
  fight like a man, a message. And I mean, that's one thing.
• 1:14:06
  I've always kind of change the subject in a I've always enjoyed
• 1:14:10
  about any, he'll run for Eddie Guerrero.
• 1:14:13
  Same thing is real that sneaky, he'll like the type of guy a
• 1:14:17
  little bit, he would smack the chair.
• 1:14:19
  On the mat fall flat on his back.
• 1:14:22
  Well toss the chair to his opponent fall flat on his back
• 1:14:25
  and rest like, whoop your out like I love that.
• 1:14:28
  It's an old-school being healed before and now and that was what
• 1:14:33
  it used to be, you know, just a, just a cheat and do that.
• 1:14:37
  And now anymore, all your douche.
• 1:14:38
  Bag your heel. That's all it is.
• 1:14:40
  How big of a douchebag? Can you be?
• 1:14:43
  We're gonna create some heat on social media like, okay, didn't
• 1:14:46
  take much for that. All you got to do.
• 1:14:48
  So you won't pineapple on pizza and you'll get like 20, retweets
• 1:14:52
  God will like But yeah, this is like yeah, three Evelyn's
• 1:14:58
  old-school heels. It's like you don't liking me
• 1:15:01
  won't fight fair. It's not fair.
• 1:15:02
  Let him fight and that's basically how this went for a
• 1:15:07
  good part of it and these guys were going back and forth the
• 1:15:10
  entire time. So it wasn't just like no
• 1:15:13
  breaths. Just kind of slowly picking this
• 1:15:14
  guy part by using cheap tactics or anything.
• 1:15:17
  Like they got a very long match, it was almost 20 minutes long.
• 1:15:22
  And this was insane. Crowd starts chanting for Alston
• 1:15:28
  and Davey Boy makes an appearance that can't go wrong,
• 1:15:33
  can it? But wait, that's not the only
• 1:15:39
  person who makes an appearance because Drew, you know what time
• 1:15:43
  it is? That's a quarter past.
• 1:15:46
  I don't know. It's you get Veda tie.
• 1:15:51
  This time the man they call Vader shows up to make sure that
• 1:15:57
  Davey Boy keeps his mitts out of the ring because I you know,
• 1:16:03
  you've been trying to trying to get involved in this match here
• 1:16:05
  and you know those Brits I've always had it out for since the
• 1:16:08
  war, but I love these references.
• 1:16:15
  Here is Patriots. Go.
• 1:16:16
  Yeah, but like so yeah, again course.
• 1:16:24
  Later comes out crowd gets huge. Pop there.
• 1:16:26
  They doors on TV. What's up?
• 1:16:28
  Bader. Cool Patron.
• 1:16:31
  Make short work of baby boy after that. and, I think that
• 1:16:40
  this year, the same time. Sorry, my notes are kind of
• 1:16:41
  jumbled that same time. Yeah.
• 1:16:43
  Brett gets thrown into the stairs by Vader and then you
• 1:16:48
  just rolls Brett's heat back into the ring.
• 1:16:51
  Here comes the scud missile sock from the Patriot for to count,
• 1:16:56
  which is surprising because in considering Vader does chucked
• 1:17:00
  into a stairwell inside of the steps but whatever.
• 1:17:04
  And Brett comes back with a Hotshot to The Patriot.
• 1:17:10
  And that comes with a running Bulldog, followed by an elbow
• 1:17:15
  drop for to count. Can't fight freedom and win.
• 1:17:20
  Come on now, yep. So even with all of that the
• 1:17:30
  Patriot hits another, another big slam on bread.
• 1:17:35
  And I don't know what happened with the count there, but it was
• 1:17:38
  kind of delayed to count. And of course, you get the
• 1:17:42
  double knockout spot. Everybody.
• 1:17:44
  One, what comes after one? Oh yeah.
• 1:17:49
  Two. I get it but Paul's for dramatic
• 1:17:54
  Effect 3. We're going to commercial.
• 1:17:58
  All right it's cool commercials back for like okay don't say and
• 1:18:05
  we're back to say here's where we left off.
• 1:18:08
  But so even after the double knockout spot, Brett tries to
• 1:18:14
  get himself a quick little win over here.
• 1:18:17
  With a little old, Connor roll into the cradle and Patriot hits
• 1:18:23
  him with the big bump. And tries to go for the freedom
• 1:18:29
  shooter. Is that a that moved out of a
• 1:18:37
  tree? Did it Freedom shit.
• 1:18:44
  Villa rats leg pool. But let's look at a rule here.
• 1:18:54
  You don't put the Sharpshooter on Bret Hart.
• 1:18:57
  Bad idea yet. Not yet when you don't win yet.
• 1:19:01
  And so well I don't even think of that, like it'll make sense,
• 1:19:12
  bro. Right now, like it's one thing
• 1:19:16
  to put like to put flare. We'll reverse the figure four
• 1:19:21
  and end up, you know. Basically doing a figure for one
• 1:19:25
  flare because that's just a thing I do.
• 1:19:27
  I can't think of too many times. I see Ric Flair win.
• 1:19:30
  What's the figure four leg long? It's memorable.
• 1:19:33
  Yeah, I'll make a chap out on 2K with it but III didn't mess up
• 1:19:38
  and Bret Hart trying to tell him how to properly execute it.
• 1:19:43
  Yeah, that's exactly what happens.
• 1:19:44
  And no no which again will happen in a few months.
• 1:19:48
  So here let me, let me show you how this is done for real.
• 1:19:52
  So the Patriots like wow, you're really good at this.
• 1:19:55
  Hey ref, I quit is nothing speaks American, like quitting,
• 1:20:09
  I quit I'm gonna help Source this match to never mind.
• 1:20:13
  We're not gonna get into that. But uh, yeah.
• 1:20:17
  So the Patriots says, you know, ref in the name of freedom, I
• 1:20:20
  think I'm going to concede and let Red Heart have this match,
• 1:20:24
  because that's what Americans do, we believe in giving people,
• 1:20:27
  chances, and bootstraps and whatnot and lather not white,
• 1:20:33
  Exactly. So like you think about it away?
• 1:20:37
  No. Bret Hart is doing what all
• 1:20:39
  these Boomers on, Facebook. Tell us to do.
• 1:20:41
  He picked a man up by his bootstraps and want to match.
• 1:20:46
  And Kentucky it Kentucky. I'm working man, State and
• 1:20:51
  whiskey. Mmm, whiskey bourbon.
• 1:20:59
  And yeah, that was I mean I was fine and And for this one, you
• 1:21:04
  shout out the Dell Wills, you let me do you think about it?
• 1:21:06
  I mean, this is huge. I mean in his career.
• 1:21:09
  Yep. No title match against Bret
• 1:21:12
  Hart, who I mean, even at this point in his career, still
• 1:21:15
  arguably one of the bigger. Well, he's like, maybe the fifth
• 1:21:19
  biggest draw right now behind, you know, Stone Cold Undertaker,
• 1:21:23
  Shawn Michaels stable now, it's right now.
• 1:21:25
  We've got, it's Stone Cold, Shawn Michaels.
• 1:21:30
  Undertaker are no Shawn. Michael's are stone called,
• 1:21:34
  Shawn Michaels Sables left. Tit Sables.
• 1:21:37
  Right? Tit and Bret Hart.
• 1:21:42
  That's the, that's the drawing order right now.
• 1:21:50
  I love it. I mean, even throughout all of
• 1:21:51
  this, what here he there are some extracurriculars after the
• 1:21:57
  match where, you know, Just, in case you forgot the Brett was a
• 1:22:03
  heel now. Let's remind you, he expresses I
• 1:22:10
  guess the WWF First Amendment right to choke mr.
• 1:22:17
  Wilkes with the American flag until breasts and Gerald Brisco,
• 1:22:22
  to whole gang comes down and tries to pull him off.
• 1:22:24
  And it was I was like, what is going on here?
• 1:22:29
  That part that was is great to me and plus I can make many on
• 1:22:34
  ironic references to America because the Patriot was
• 1:22:36
  involved. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:22:43
  So, what did you give this? When Arnold Asli for what it
• 1:22:46
  was. I really enjoyed it.
• 1:22:48
  I gave this one, an A okay I'm going to go.
• 1:22:53
  I'm going ahead jump here just for a second because I almost
• 1:22:56
  did and there's something you didn't win.
• 1:22:58
  Talk about the botched finish. Did we anybody else?
• 1:23:00
  Notice The Botch finish? I don't think I noticed.
• 1:23:05
  Did you notice the botch on the finished geek?
• 1:23:07
  Oh, if you're watching this at home, Bret Hart has a botch
• 1:23:11
  finish. No, okay.
• 1:23:13
  Well I don't know who it could have been a patriot.
• 1:23:15
  I don't know. It could be putting both of them
• 1:23:18
  go back and look as Bret Hart has the Patriot in the
• 1:23:24
  Sharpshooter look where he has even the Sharpshooter.
• 1:23:28
  He is about yeast. Close to the ropes.
• 1:23:32
  All he would have Del Wilkes with happened to T-Rex armed,
• 1:23:36
  not being able to grab the Rope the entire time.
• 1:23:39
  He was literally six inches away.
• 1:23:41
  His face was six inches away from the bottom rope.
• 1:23:45
  All he would have had to do is reach up and grab that rope and
• 1:23:48
  I caught that in Leo and then the camera.
• 1:23:50
  That's right. During his face immediately
• 1:23:52
  zooms out to an angle that way away.
• 1:23:55
  Kind of doesn't show you where it is, and I'm like yeah I'm not
• 1:23:59
  the only ones who ever is it gorilla screaming or whoever's
• 1:24:02
  running. Cameras running the show,
• 1:24:04
  saying, get a camera to turn it off, move move, get out of there
• 1:24:09
  because he was way too close to the ropes when they did that.
• 1:24:13
  I don't know if it's, when Brett reversed it to put a put his
• 1:24:16
  Sharpshooter on. Did he back him up too far or
• 1:24:19
  were they too close to begin with?
• 1:24:20
  I mean that's an awkward spot. It should have been right in the
• 1:24:22
  middle of the Ring to keep her any of that happening.
• 1:24:25
  But yeah, he was right there in the ropes.
• 1:24:27
  I mean, let's go watch it again. He was two inches away from it.
• 1:24:30
  Basically a minute. Patriot you should use your
• 1:24:33
  freedom fist. Yeah.
• 1:24:36
  Yeah. He could have reached out with
• 1:24:37
  his arm of Liberty and for all. Why did he not have a liberty
• 1:24:46
  Lariat? Oh that would have been awesome.
• 1:24:51
  Yeah that should have been his finisher, the Liberty Larry at
• 1:24:53
  Wham. Yeah many who.
• 1:24:56
  Um other than I mean I did like this match though, this was
• 1:24:58
  really good deal. Works as a good talent, it was a
• 1:25:01
  good Southern. Sal wrestler, who Bret Hart, I
• 1:25:04
  think always had the best matches with with technical
• 1:25:06
  classic professional wrestlers. Of course, Bret Hart could have
• 1:25:11
  a match with anybody. Yeah, we've all been there.
• 1:25:15
  He could have a four star match with a broomstick and out of
• 1:25:18
  watched it. But this one, this one, the
• 1:25:20
  Finish took me out a little bit when I saw that but not, not too
• 1:25:24
  much. It was still a really good
• 1:25:25
  match. I liked how Vader and Bulldog
• 1:25:28
  showed up in the middle, but didn't affect the Finish really.
• 1:25:31
  So I thought that was good because I really didn't want
• 1:25:33
  another screw you finish. I gave this a b, it was good.
• 1:25:38
  It could have been if the finished would have been a
• 1:25:40
  little more clean. In my opinion it'll probably be
• 1:25:43
  plus - but I took a little Notch off of it because I saw that and
• 1:25:47
  thought maybe other people did too, but maybe not.
• 1:25:49
  Maybe went under the radar. All right, what about you geek?
• 1:25:52
  Hey, hey, Bret Hart, no. He can do no harm.
• 1:26:01
  He, I love his matches. I'll always love it.
• 1:26:03
  Matches, even that survivors, there's one, but I'll giving it
• 1:26:09
  a day. I hope we would have seen more
• 1:26:13
  of the will CH + WF at the time. But for some reason, it's like
• 1:26:20
  he was just there as father for Bret Hart to, you know, like
• 1:26:26
  will give you this guy as a way to use your heat right beat up
• 1:26:32
  America and then you know, Canada.
• 1:26:36
  Oh Canada. Well, but little behind the
• 1:26:39
  curtain. He was supposed to be on the
• 1:26:40
  Survivor Series team with against the Hart Foundation, but
• 1:26:44
  he tears his triceps and that would pretty much be the end of
• 1:26:47
  his career. He pretty much are hearing.
• 1:26:49
  This is the Twilight of his career and he started.
• 1:26:53
  I think he was little, he would did a lot of New Japan.
• 1:26:56
  He was in WCW for a while and then he did.
• 1:26:58
  Awesome. All Japan.
• 1:26:59
  Then he did this run and WWF. He was in WWF.
• 1:27:02
  He was also, if you remember somebody called The Trooper,
• 1:27:08
  Like 93 94, maybe maybe earlier than that, the trooper.
• 1:27:13
  This was also him. Yeah.
• 1:27:15
  In about a month here he's not a terrorist triceps and that's
• 1:27:18
  pretty much will be the end of his career and unfortunately
• 1:27:22
  passed away about a year ago. Oh okay.
• 1:27:25
  That's that he did a lot of interviews and he admitted to
• 1:27:29
  steroids and cocaine and what you know, and he did seminar.
• 1:27:34
  He did seminars wrestling school saying, you know, don't do
• 1:27:36
  steroids. So many people, I knew are dead,
• 1:27:39
  you gone because we did this, don't do that and it did lots of
• 1:27:44
  talks at schools and things. But yeah, this is why he didn't
• 1:27:48
  stick around much longer. After that, they need to tear
• 1:27:51
  isn't like a month and is released in early 98.
• 1:27:55
  So yeah. So a and two A's in a b and the
• 1:27:57
  only one that didn't. So, for the first time tonight,
• 1:28:00
  I think I'm the lower end of the spectrum.
• 1:28:03
  All right, well, speaking of things that are low, maybe solo,
• 1:28:09
  they might be six feet under where you will, what do you do?
• 1:28:13
  If you're six feet under Arnold, you Rest in peace, right?
• 1:28:19
  Yeah but after thing, yeah, but I was going to have you say it
• 1:28:21
  really ominously, so let's try that again.
• 1:28:24
  If you're six feet under Arnold, you do what you rest in peace
• 1:28:31
  sang-doo. It through the talking thing.
• 1:28:35
  Do it, I'm saying, hey, we're not a visual medium.
• 1:28:42
  All right, that's right. It's time for Undertaker and
• 1:28:45
  Shawn. Goals and Arnold Enoch Shawn
• 1:28:50
  Michaels, wanted to be in this match.
• 1:28:53
  That was a banger. No, I don't think you did either
• 1:28:58
  because he kept trying to get out of it.
• 1:28:59
  Literally, as in trying to get out of the ring, run away.
• 1:29:03
  Hide flee. Scurry.
• 1:29:06
  Scurry. Flee to the point where he hides
• 1:29:09
  behind. Mike, keota the referee and take
• 1:29:14
  her just says move Ragdoll, and just tosses might kill to the
• 1:29:18
  floor. And then starts chasing him
• 1:29:21
  again. Shawn Michaels gets the outside
• 1:29:24
  says, you know what, I've had enough of this.
• 1:29:25
  Does the old arm wave, screw it and goes to walk up the ramp.
• 1:29:29
  But who does he meet half way up the ramp?
• 1:29:32
  That's right, Sergeant chin comes down and goes.
• 1:29:34
  Nope, nope, nope. Back in the ring, you go.
• 1:29:38
  And as he's back, my favorite spot, I have ever seen.
• 1:29:42
  I have never saw this. I don't think I've ever seen it
• 1:29:45
  since, but here's my note on this spot, I said this This
• 1:29:49
  match will get an A just for this fought alone.
• 1:29:53
  Undertaker literally picks up, Mike keota, Chuck's him out of
• 1:29:57
  the ring at Shawn Michaels. I lost my shit on that spot.
• 1:30:04
  I am not going to lie, I got I sat up and away oh I rewound,
• 1:30:09
  I'm like, oh my God, I have never seen a wrestler, throw a
• 1:30:13
  referee as an object before I've seen him do it with other
• 1:30:18
  wrestlers. Like throw somebody out of the
• 1:30:20
  ring but I've never seen a wrestler.
• 1:30:23
  Pick gorilla press slam out of the ring, a referee that was
• 1:30:29
  absolutely hilarious. Spoiler alert not the only ref
• 1:30:37
  bumper going to see in this match.
• 1:30:41
  Not even close. Why was it the main event?
• 1:30:46
  I'm not really sure this. And it will make sense later,
• 1:30:57
  bro. I guess, um, I really like this
• 1:31:05
  match, I'm going to go ahead and I mean, it's John Michaels and
• 1:31:07
  taker. Did anybody think this was going
• 1:31:09
  to be bad? Nothing bad, you know, me.
• 1:31:13
  I mean, they do have a lot of bad blood between each other.
• 1:31:16
  Yeah. I mean, I never even I sort of
• 1:31:19
  watching it so much toward the end.
• 1:31:20
  I stopped taking notes, mainly because when the ref pump
• 1:31:25
  started getting so much I couldn't write them all down.
• 1:31:27
  Yeah. What an Earl.
• 1:31:29
  How many bumps that Earl hebner? Getting this match 436,000.
• 1:31:35
  Sheesh roughly. If even that and it was like
• 1:31:39
  there was Kyoto at the beginning.
• 1:31:42
  Then the other guy. What's his face comes down,
• 1:31:45
  right? I can't think of his name shoot.
• 1:31:47
  He's the one I can never remember them.
• 1:31:49
  Light, was it Tim White second or not know the little blond one
• 1:31:55
  come down second, didn't he? Oh, that guy.
• 1:32:00
  I know you're thinking about but now don't tell me why you came
• 1:32:03
  down, and then finally hebner, right have never finished it.
• 1:32:09
  So, we went through the entire referee, The core referee
• 1:32:13
  roster. Yeah.
• 1:32:14
  Just to get through this match and they all bumped multiple
• 1:32:17
  times for multiple things. I'm not even going to really go
• 1:32:22
  through every spot in this match.
• 1:32:23
  Go back and watch it. And I'm just saying I'm yeah,
• 1:32:27
  I'm not going to go board forward and spot for spot and I
• 1:32:31
  know it sounds like I'm pooh-poohing like I hated this.
• 1:32:33
  No, I loved it because I've never seen this much before.
• 1:32:38
  I've never seen this since And these two hate each other and it
• 1:32:43
  kind of added to the story. I don't know why there was never
• 1:32:47
  a DQ or anything in this match but you know whatever well there
• 1:32:51
  was eventually but there was rough bump after rough but
• 1:32:56
  before this match ever started, I think the third ref is the
• 1:33:00
  finally the one that come down and rings the bell, right?
• 1:33:02
  Was Tim White. There's I'm not no bumped over
• 1:33:06
  this. No ring the bell.
• 1:33:08
  No, it was Tim, why do you finished off and came down?
• 1:33:10
  And finally called for the Bell called for the DQ right?
• 1:33:14
  Yeah, yeah. Okay.
• 1:33:15
  So here's the last one, hebner was down, you know, licking all
• 1:33:20
  seven of his wounds but this was crazy.
• 1:33:24
  This was just at one point there was brass knuckles.
• 1:33:28
  There was chair shots. Sweet chins and tombstones and
• 1:33:36
  Triple H, Triple H. I was wondering where Rick, Rude
• 1:33:40
  was at one point. Why is he not here?
• 1:33:45
  China, got involved and getting tired, rocks that came out.
• 1:33:49
  Yeah, let's get to the Finish because we talked about it or we
• 1:33:51
  mentioned earlier, the entire roster has to come try to
• 1:33:54
  separate these two which gets kind of funny to the baby face
• 1:33:57
  is pretty much try to stop Taker and The heels kind of pull off
• 1:34:03
  trying to get Sean off which I kind of find funny that we have
• 1:34:06
  like factions that hate each other are working together.
• 1:34:11
  Here is how bad we got to get these two apart because I saw
• 1:34:16
  like a sprinkler earlier. Yellow streak was is working
• 1:34:19
  with DOA to try to stop Sean. I'm like, oh my God, but still
• 1:34:24
  and then all of a sudden, is that a bird?
• 1:34:28
  Is it a plane? Holy crap.
• 1:34:30
  That's under Taker diving over the top rope and he just takes
• 1:34:34
  out these Tire. He'll Locker, I love that.
• 1:34:39
  This match was the definition of batshit crazy, folks and it I
• 1:34:44
  loved it. This, this was a grudge.
• 1:34:48
  This was how to not finish a grudge.
• 1:34:50
  This was how to keep one going. Take her look like an absolute
• 1:34:54
  madman. Shawn Michaels, the entire match
• 1:34:57
  looks like he wanted no part of him unless he could cheat to get
• 1:34:59
  the advantage. Was book really good to me?
• 1:35:03
  Like I said, yes if this ref bump thing starts happening,
• 1:35:07
  week after week after week, I hate it.
• 1:35:10
  But when it's on a main event of a pay-per-view and happens once
• 1:35:13
  between two guys who obviously have a beef and want to one of
• 1:35:17
  them just wants to kill the other one.
• 1:35:20
  I am good with it. I love this.
• 1:35:23
  I love just about every second of it, and like I said that spot
• 1:35:27
  of taker chucking Mike, keota would have given this an a, I
• 1:35:30
  don't care if they They came out and just started telling all the
• 1:35:33
  secrets behind the curtain of might have still got an A this
• 1:35:36
  gets an a for me and it's borderline the more I think
• 1:35:40
  about it. Want to give it an A+.
• 1:35:42
  I love this geek. Tell us what you thought about
• 1:35:45
  this. A lot of dead man.
• 1:35:47
  Um, I hated that. I mean, sure, it's the main
• 1:35:51
  event, like I don't understand why the wef championship is not
• 1:35:56
  to me but the same time Undertaker versus Shawn Michaels
• 1:36:00
  and Like this, I get it. Giving it an a shot.
• 1:36:07
  Michael, there's a bucket in here.
• 1:36:09
  You've never seen that before. So, I saw there's gonna be like
• 1:36:16
  a regular match turns out to be chaotic, loved it.
• 1:36:21
  The hole bigger flying through the air and bumping all the
• 1:36:26
  heels and then the guy in the back didn't get touched but he
• 1:36:30
  still falls down love that too. Like every time I see this, oh
• 1:36:34
  that's funny. Shawn Michaels.
• 1:36:37
  And Triple H leaving is a no contest basically.
• 1:36:41
  It ends Annabelle contest, 16 minutes of that.
• 1:36:43
  So I'm like, all right, cool. Yes, we'll just a big brawl
• 1:36:46
  between Sean and Brett and are not Bret and Shawn Shawn and
• 1:36:49
  take her. And anybody that got in their
• 1:36:50
  way, God dealt with. Till they finally, I can't wait
• 1:36:56
  for the Hell in the Cell. They're gonna get into it.
• 1:37:00
  Well we don't know what elevator is yet.
• 1:37:01
  We'll figure that out later. Something that I think something
• 1:37:04
  really important happens in that match and we'll talk about that.
• 1:37:07
  Hey, I mean, they do have a lot of bad blood between Qatar, oh,
• 1:37:11
  so did there. And we'll have a very special
• 1:37:13
  guest for that one to our first International guests?
• 1:37:15
  I do believe. All right Arnold.
• 1:37:17
  Would you think about this? I agree with geek.
• 1:37:21
  This was about 16 minutes long and I enjoyed every minute of it
• 1:37:27
  is one of those. I knew going in that whether we
• 1:37:31
  want it or not, nobody was going over anybody right here.
• 1:37:36
  So, like this, I mean, there was no other way for this match to
• 1:37:40
  end than in a no contest. As be like not we're just
• 1:37:42
  throwing this out. We can't get these to the crew,
• 1:37:44
  fighting everybody in her cousin in the back.
• 1:37:47
  Can't get these guys quit fighting as like and it just it
• 1:37:51
  made it fun and me. I think we'll definitely see
• 1:37:58
  more of Taker and Sean. In the future and I'm ready for
• 1:38:03
  that, really ready and I'm sure it'll be in my house.
• 1:38:08
  It will be awesome and it just goes to show these guys.
• 1:38:13
  As workers are just complete, they're not capable of having
• 1:38:16
  like bad matches. Oh, like course it's one thing
• 1:38:25
  for certain guys that throw Hissy Fits because they didn't
• 1:38:28
  get what they wanted, but Still gives the fans.
• 1:38:35
  A great product in a ring long as he doesn't do his smile again
• 1:38:40
  right. Well, let's not do that.
• 1:38:42
  His back will hurt for four years, but whatever.
• 1:38:47
  But yeah, outside of that, though, I was that I thoroughly
• 1:38:50
  enjoyed this one. It was, it was just
• 1:38:54
  Entertainment. I will use that word here and I
• 1:38:58
  know a lot of wrestling fans don't like that word but we'll
• 1:39:03
  SE word but this was definitely that I hate to say it.
• 1:39:08
  Like are you not Sports entertained like right?
• 1:39:13
  It was it was I mean, honestly if this is what I think of when
• 1:39:18
  I think of that word Like it doesn't take away from the
• 1:39:22
  athleticism of 81 involved. Held the refs even took bumps in
• 1:39:26
  this one. So it's this like everybody's
• 1:39:29
  getting bumped tonight. It doesn't matter.
• 1:39:31
  Damn it. Yes.
• 1:39:31
  Good shit. Yeah.
• 1:39:35
  Like for what that is, I consider that Sports
• 1:39:38
  entertainment. There are a bunch of dudes beat
• 1:39:40
  the crap out of each other out in the ring right now.
• 1:39:42
  I'm in my seat with cheese drooling from my mouth screaming
• 1:39:47
  for more. yeah, watching Gladiators and bottle but not I
• 1:39:57
  got it. I'm sorry.
• 1:39:59
  I got in the moment. But no, this, this got an A-
• 1:40:03
  from me. - AAA - work all good there and folks, that was the
• 1:40:09
  end of WWF in your house Ground Zero September 7th, 1997, and
• 1:40:19
  well, let's give our final thoughts on this thing.
• 1:40:23
  This I want I don't want to say is one of the greatest
• 1:40:27
  pay-per-views of all time, but one of the most What's the word
• 1:40:35
  I'm looking for? Surprising, maybe for just a
• 1:40:39
  good one for random in your house, where we get the Patriots
• 1:40:42
  versus Bret Hart on the card, you're thinking.
• 1:40:44
  And this lineup, this blew me away on how actual good it was
• 1:40:50
  compared to what it should have. Should have been This was, this
• 1:40:55
  was way more than the whole. The this is one where the sum is
• 1:41:00
  way more than the whole it's burn.
• 1:41:01
  The whole was way more than the sum of its parts of that makes
• 1:41:03
  sense. Makes sense to me.
• 1:41:05
  Yeah. This what this was on paper
• 1:41:09
  shouldn't have been good really but when it all came together at
• 1:41:14
  gelled it flowed. Now again I'm throwing out the
• 1:41:17
  Mexican mini match take that as you will as what you will, the
• 1:41:22
  Scott Putski getting her. Thank not, it just happened.
• 1:41:25
  Some kind of tall thing that the sod it happens.
• 1:41:29
  Other than that, the lowest grade I gave today was a b -
• 1:41:36
  that's insane for what we've watched over the last 18 months.
• 1:41:43
  That's doesn't happen. We've watched pay-per-views with
• 1:41:47
  the highest grade. I think we've given would be a
• 1:41:49
  be. We've watched really, really
• 1:41:54
  crappy pay-per-views before looking at you Halloween Havoc.
• 1:42:02
  Hey, yeah, War Games three or World War 3.
• 1:42:07
  That's the one of they not having having this year's World
• 1:42:09
  War Three looking at you. Oh my God, that Worst dub dub
• 1:42:15
  that will be sold out in wo show.
• 1:42:18
  Looking at you, that was terrible and some random in the
• 1:42:22
  house in your house. As we've watched final four
• 1:42:26
  looking at you. I don't for or Barrett, not
• 1:42:31
  buried alive. SummerSlam, 96 looking at you,
• 1:42:35
  you were pretty crappy. If you had like my favorite
• 1:42:39
  match of all time, one of my favorite matches of all time,
• 1:42:41
  one of whatever, you know, other than that, it was crap.
• 1:42:43
  This was really, really good. I would say go watch this, this
• 1:42:50
  is one where I would say, if you have some through, this was the
• 1:42:53
  first three, our pay-per-view. We skipped over that it was the
• 1:42:56
  first time they went to a full three, our pay-per-view slot to
• 1:42:59
  that of just the normal two hours, and I think they knocked
• 1:43:02
  it out of the park because before it felt like kind of a
• 1:43:06
  big role. Like a Supercar draw.
• 1:43:10
  If you look at that way this Had a little bigger feel to it a
• 1:43:15
  little bit not like, I'm not talking, you're big for like
• 1:43:18
  they were always, you know, three-hour pay-per-views, or
• 1:43:21
  more sometimes. Like, think that I think, even,
• 1:43:24
  I think WrestleMania was three and a half hours last this year,
• 1:43:27
  97. But they're normal, little
• 1:43:29
  pay-per-views were just two hours and this is the first one
• 1:43:32
  that went to the three hour slot.
• 1:43:33
  And I think that if they hit a home run with it, I love this.
• 1:43:37
  This averaged out my grades to be an a - I don't like that.
• 1:43:41
  I'm going to go higher. I think this gets an a this is a
• 1:43:44
  good pay-per-view. If you've got three hours at
• 1:43:46
  home, I was just watching it. I could sit down and watch this.
• 1:43:51
  I would watch this again. Yeah.
• 1:43:54
  All right. What do you think?
• 1:43:55
  What's your overall thoughts? I love the entire show aside
• 1:44:01
  from Scott Putski getting injured and of course raiding
• 1:44:05
  the fridge when Max many came out and going into it like okay.
• 1:44:11
  Yeah. I can't believe you skipped over
• 1:44:12
  it. I'm like watching those like, oh
• 1:44:14
  cool! That's freakin awesome man.
• 1:44:17
  Where's the station? And then I really love that
• 1:44:22
  Headbangers won the match. And then the main event that the
• 1:44:27
  real me. Ben of course Bret Hart and then
• 1:44:29
  the next one which is like, okay, here's 16 minutes, go for
• 1:44:33
  it. Nah, overall, I'm giving it an
• 1:44:37
  eight. Okay?
• 1:44:40
  All right Arnold and we all made some good points.
• 1:44:45
  And now the thing about this one, Mike is one of those ones
• 1:44:48
  going in where I'm like. Alright this is just another
• 1:44:50
  filler pay-per-view. We're getting one of the big
• 1:44:52
  four whatever and you know is in your house blah blah blah.
• 1:44:56
  But now like main really for me from beginning to end like there
• 1:45:00
  are a couple stinkers in there but overall I was thoroughly
• 1:45:03
  entertained in. This is like these were Dudes
• 1:45:07
  come down here just beat the crap out of each other because
• 1:45:09
  that's what wrestling is all about.
• 1:45:11
  And in a way this show kind of took me back to that or it's
• 1:45:15
  like yeah this is dudes. In the rain beating the crap out
• 1:45:18
  of each other one way or another and it felt like a spectacle to
• 1:45:23
  me I guess and it's like it all culminates in your Last match of
• 1:45:30
  the night where it's kind of, like, in a way a casting call.
• 1:45:36
  You would see in a movie, we're like kind of everybody.
• 1:45:38
  Just kind of, is out on a scene or whatever and that's what it
• 1:45:41
  felt like, is this like, and you just, you just know the fact
• 1:45:45
  that this match ended in a no contest is like, no.
• 1:45:47
  We'll see these two again and it kind of, I mean, it just leaves
• 1:45:50
  you thinking that, like, I have to watch Raw tomorrow night.
• 1:45:55
  But I have to go to see what's good.
• 1:45:57
  I got to see what's happening with take her and Michael's
• 1:45:59
  here, or you know, what's Bret Hart going to do now, he's
• 1:46:02
  Vanquish the Patriot, you know, just there's a bunch of stuff
• 1:46:06
  going on here and I think, It'll be good for the brand.
• 1:46:10
  It'll be good for the company and especially with the poop
• 1:46:16
  sandwich is a pay-per-views. We've been getting from the
• 1:46:18
  other company lately like this is your chance now to try to
• 1:46:22
  Catch up, try to get ahead, try to catch up.
• 1:46:26
  Maybe Hulk Hogan a by you bike, Vinnie Mac.
• 1:46:31
  And like you said you made the point where, you know, yeah,
• 1:46:34
  there were some stinkers but I I'll counter that and say, the
• 1:46:37
  stinkers have an out to the puzzle.
• 1:46:39
  What's he getting hurt in the Mexican?
• 1:46:40
  Mini thing was proud, that I'm sure they had some agreement
• 1:46:43
  with what was a cmll to Tom or was it was this from AAA, I
• 1:46:47
  don't know which perfectly. Okay.
• 1:46:49
  Okay, I'm sure they had some agreement with them.
• 1:46:52
  I don't like those matches because we don't see any
• 1:46:54
  storyline mine. Whatever.
• 1:46:55
  I mean I get, that's a thing. I'm okay with it.
• 1:46:58
  It's not a big deal but yeah, this was this was good.
• 1:47:02
  Did you did you give your greater die cut you off again?
• 1:47:06
  I didn't yet know, I gave this a this one gets the name. - for me
• 1:47:11
  it's like even like I said I was going to I was going to get to
• 1:47:13
  that point. I kind of skipped past it yet.
• 1:47:15
  Even with the stinkers though they weren't bad like there was
• 1:47:20
  nothing just egregious. It was just like this match
• 1:47:23
  wasn't as good as it should have been.
• 1:47:25
  Or this should have been this instead of this, why just a
• 1:47:28
  little gripes? Like even those weren't bad
• 1:47:30
  because the same thing, dudes. In the rain, beat the crap out
• 1:47:33
  of each other. You love to see it.
• 1:47:38
  Wow, I love to see you. I was looking back.
• 1:47:40
  See if I can find her. Oh, we didn't get.
• 1:47:43
  Yeah, because we've seen shows where we have believed.
• 1:47:46
  This was a home. See where this was Spring,
• 1:47:49
  Stampede 97. Oh, no!
• 1:47:52
  Hi. And this going to be for me, but
• 1:47:55
  we had stinkers on it, like, mongo and Jeff Jarrett versus
• 1:48:00
  Public Enemy. Hey, Medusa versus a key Roja
• 1:48:11
  Koto, which turned out to be a five-minute hair-pulling match.
• 1:48:15
  Yep. They had women's wrestling in
• 1:48:17
  the study. Yep.
• 1:48:19
  Oh yeah, the belt in the trash. Okay, that there was that, um,
• 1:48:28
  so yeah, things like that, we watch those don't have outs, the
• 1:48:33
  woman's kind of an given out, but the anything with a public
• 1:48:36
  enemy in a minute, no, no, no, no no out their garbage, but
• 1:48:42
  Tales this. So a, a and a - I think that's
• 1:48:47
  the, this may be the only On his second pay-per-view, we've ever
• 1:48:50
  watched that being Arnold both given a to something, which
• 1:48:55
  tells should tell you something, because we've done a lot of them
• 1:48:58
  are two companies since last May and June ish.
• 1:49:02
  So yeah, so that's been our review.
• 1:49:04
  We'll finish their of WWF in your house.
• 1:49:08
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• 1:49:12
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• 1:49:14
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• 1:49:18
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  It is from under the apron at gmail.com, and I will do my best
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  to get to them. And answer accordingly, just ask
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  these reviews request that he's sending us.
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  Also, click on the link to everyone's support our podcast
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  so far. We have a few supporters and I'm
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  making it a habit for those few supporters to know any updates I
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  They're kind of like our VIP wrestling Geeks.
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  They get the Orbiter guardrail treatment, if you will, they
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  immediately know when our shows are posted.
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  Or when we plan on recording, thank you for listening.
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  And being a part, a huge part of our community.
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  Have a great weekend. I'm Ernie.
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  So long and goodnight.