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Speaker 1: This is the report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, Paul and Hanson will be here talking about those
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Speaker 2: polls showing she could be our next prime minister, plus
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Speaker 2: shocking rights in Paris's mass immigration destroying France and a
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Speaker 2: disturbing email from the Climate Council is a really okay
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Speaker 2: to scare kids about global warming? And plenty more coming up.
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Speaker 2: But first, the prime minister today invisible, the opposition leader
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Speaker 2: in hiding, and the reason a poll that humiliates them both.
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Speaker 2: It shows the public's discussed with politics as usual. Now,
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Speaker 2: this poll in the Financial Review now shows one nation
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Speaker 2: leading even labor in primary votes. It's not even close,
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Speaker 2: thirty one one percent to a catastrophic twenty eight percent
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Speaker 2: for the Albanese government after voters revolted against this budget.
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Speaker 2: But don't overlook the terrible result for the coalition. Voters
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Speaker 2: may hate Labor, but they're also walking away from the
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Speaker 2: coalition a two point drop there to just twenty percent support. Now,
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Speaker 2: there's been a lot of you know, heat to talk
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Speaker 2: about this, but I just add a word of caution.
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Speaker 2: This poll still has Labor winning by a whisker after
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Speaker 2: preferences fifty one percent to forty nine over one nation
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Speaker 2: or the Coalition, and a poll in the newscore Papers
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Speaker 2: still has Labor just the head of one nation and
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Speaker 2: primary votes, although in that poll, just to confuse the picture,
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Speaker 2: the Coalition actually wins after preferences, so you know, take
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Speaker 2: your pick. But bottom line is, I guess that Labor,
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Speaker 2: even labor now, is being eaten alive by one nation
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Speaker 2: and that is really something to consider. You know. Prime
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Speaker 2: Minister Pauline Hanson now she's now surfing on a huge
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Speaker 2: wave of support, as she demonstrated at a pumpkinfessival in
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Speaker 2: Queensland yesterday, made me wonder, I mean, would Albany Easy
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Speaker 2: looked that much at home? Would Taylor look that comfortable
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Speaker 2: with her people? But you were right, you know, I know,
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Speaker 2: I know, there's just so much more to being a
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Speaker 2: prime minister than being able to roll the pumpkin and
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Speaker 2: the Albany's. The government sent out a junior Wood Chuck
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Speaker 2: minister today to try to make that case against Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 3: I'd encourage Australians to focus on the substance what she's
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Speaker 3: actually done.
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Speaker 2: Good question, But here's Labour's problem, because what now counts
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Speaker 2: for many voters is not what Hanson has actually done.
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Speaker 2: But what she hasn't because at least Hansen hasn't just
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Speaker 2: handed down another huge spending tax and grab budget unlike labor.
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Speaker 2: She hasn't driven up inflation unlike labor. She hasn't made
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Speaker 2: electricity bills explode or vandalize the countryside on a mad
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Speaker 2: global warming crusade unlike labor. And Hanson hasn't drowned us
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Speaker 2: in mass immigration and left us more dangerously divided, unlike labor.
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Speaker 2: She hasn't just smashed the property market with inflation and
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Speaker 2: tax hits so that the clear and sprates at auctions
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Speaker 2: last weekend crashed, unlike labor. And most important, of course,
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Speaker 2: is that Hansen hasn't made Australians poorer unlike labor. And
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Speaker 2: how much poorer well. I was shocked by a report
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Speaker 2: by Scoony's reporter Asman Blomfield today, who gave us a
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Speaker 2: real insight reporting on the huge queue of cars of
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Speaker 2: Victorians now lining up outside food Bank for just the
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Speaker 2: box of free food, much of it, you know, the
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Speaker 2: kind that's rejected by supermarkets in eighteen years at food Bank.
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Speaker 4: This is really the worst that we've seen it, and
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Speaker 4: that's going.
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Speaker 5: Through bush buyers through floods, through pandemics.
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Speaker 2: So this helps exactly explain why Pauline Hansen is an
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Speaker 2: overnight sensation after nearly thirty years in politics, because she
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Speaker 2: hasn't really done that much different in the past year
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Speaker 2: to what she's been doing before, as she hasn't done
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Speaker 2: much at all really, except of course, survived the media
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Speaker 2: mockery for all those years, and the abuse and even
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Speaker 2: jail jail and false charges for something she didn't do,
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Speaker 2: and in all that time she just stuck true to
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Speaker 2: her message. So her overnight success really is built on
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Speaker 2: that consistency, but also on the failure and particularly on
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Speaker 2: the failure and the lies of this government. She's succeeded
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Speaker 2: because in fact, both big parties have failed, and many
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Speaker 2: strands are saying, let's just give someone else a chance
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Speaker 2: to be perfectly blunt. I think for them it's could
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Speaker 2: Hanson really be any worse? Alice's talking, though she always has,
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Speaker 2: about slashing immigration and junking the net xero nonsense and
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Speaker 2: building pride again in this country. I said that here
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Speaker 2: both the big parties have failed, and that is of
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Speaker 2: course why so many voters have switched to one nation
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Speaker 2: rather than gone from labor to the Liberals, as you
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Speaker 2: might have expected, because remember those Liberals did go along
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Speaker 2: with so much that's now turned so toxic, like mass immigration,
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Speaker 2: like flying three flags, like spending too much. In fact,
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Speaker 2: you could even blow the Liberals for that catastrophic net
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Speaker 2: zero target that labor is still sticking to. You blame
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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison when he was Prime Minister, our new official target.
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Speaker 1: Of reaching net zero missions by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 2: So that's why the Liberals today are also paying a
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Speaker 2: very very heavy price. Now, I did say that the
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Speaker 2: leaders of the big parties they stayed out of sight today,
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Speaker 2: but that's not quite right, is it. One new leader
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Speaker 2: was everywhere. Tony Abbott elected last Friday as the new
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Speaker 2: president of the Liberal Party. In our campaigning very hard
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Speaker 2: from that point. We are under new management. We are
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Speaker 2: hungry to win. Abbott, who is that new management that
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Speaker 2: he mentioned, has been everywhere since then, unlike a leader
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Speaker 2: Angus Taylor, and commanding media at ten again, unlike leader
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Speaker 2: Angus Staler and committing the Liberals policies that many on
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Speaker 2: the liberal left would hate.
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be back in harness, Karl, because, as
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Speaker 4: you say, our party has been at a low Ebb.
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Speaker 4: I think that I can help persuade the Australian people
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Speaker 4: that we are fair income about abolishing net zero, scrapping
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Speaker 4: the toxic taxes, ending mass migration, because the last government
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Speaker 4: that did any of that was actually mine. I've been
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Speaker 4: on some of these bandwagons for quite a long time
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Speaker 4: and it's s good that there's a lot less I
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Speaker 4: guess criticism, but it's one thing for it to be
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Speaker 4: slowly dawning on more of the political establishment. And our
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Speaker 4: energy policy is not working, that a immigration policy is
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Speaker 4: not working.
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Speaker 2: Spoken like a true leader, a leader after not just victory,
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Speaker 2: but you might even think redemption. It was of course
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Speaker 2: also on Sky News twice today, including just now with
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Speaker 2: this former Chief of Staff Peter Kredlin, and even send
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Speaker 2: Liberal members of mass email with his trademark three slogans. Henceforth,
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Speaker 2: as Liberals, we will stand proudly under our one national flag,
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Speaker 2: will change the lord, to stop safe spaces being invaded
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Speaker 2: by men who say they are women, and we'll work
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Speaker 2: constructively with everyone who wants to be rid of the
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Speaker 2: worst government a living memory. And really the message is
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Speaker 2: so Tony Abbott, so you may well wonder who is
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Speaker 2: the real leader now of the Liberal Party, the one
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Speaker 2: the media will turn to for a quotable quote. Now,
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Speaker 2: at this stage, I really got to clarify something. I
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Speaker 2: like Tony Avis' Abbot's message. I agree he can sell
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Speaker 2: it like no other liberal, and I agree that the
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Speaker 2: Liberals need help and like others in sc I am
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Speaker 2: a friend of Tony Abbott, which you might think, well,
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Speaker 2: why are you saying these things. It's because my loyalty
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Speaker 2: here is not to a friend, but to you, to viewers.
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Speaker 2: That's what I'm here for. My duty is to level
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Speaker 2: with you. So I say to you that Abbot's appointment
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Speaker 2: comes with huge risk for the Liberals and actually shows
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Speaker 2: up the strife that party is in because already, of course,
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Speaker 2: labor is jumping all over this.
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Speaker 6: Tony Abbott belongs in a museum.
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Speaker 2: Now, the danger here is not just the Liberals look
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Speaker 2: like going back to the past to a controversial leader.
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Speaker 2: It's that Abbot's strength makes Taylor look weak. Look, it's
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Speaker 2: true that Abbott insists the real Liberal leader is Angus
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Speaker 2: Taylor and avit's just there in the Liberal office overseeing
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Speaker 2: donations and campaigns, but it is while it's actually campaigning
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Speaker 2: and talking policy, to the point that one Liberal MP
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Speaker 2: of the Left, Treasury spokesman Tim Wilson, was goaded today
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Speaker 2: into telling him to stay in his lane.
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Speaker 7: He's tiny, Abbott the answer right now. Well, actually, Angus
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Speaker 7: Taylor is the answer right now because he is the
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Speaker 7: le parliamentary leader of the Liberal Party. It's a job
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Speaker 7: of the parliamentary party to make the case and to
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Speaker 7: build out the vision for the future of the country
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Speaker 7: and persuade voters.
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Speaker 2: And still Abbot is needed because the Liberals are so
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Speaker 2: weak and for years betrayed their values, as Abbott admits
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Speaker 2: in that letter to members, portrayed Abbot's values too, and
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Speaker 2: every time he speaks many one nation voters will be
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Speaker 2: reminded of just that. And they know that Pauline Hanson,
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Speaker 2: unlike the Labor and the Liberals, she's not failed and
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Speaker 2: has not betrayed them yet, and so she reckons she
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Speaker 2: deserves a chance. So she told Andrew Clnel on Sky News.
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Speaker 8: Yesterday, do I want to be Prime Minister? Well, I'll
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Speaker 8: tell you what. I won't knock the job, Andrew, because
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Speaker 8: I believe that I have the ability to do it.
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Speaker 8: I'm not going to underestimate myself or say no, I
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Speaker 8: can't do it because you know, have a look at
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Speaker 8: what we've got now, really honestly, and that's why we're
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Speaker 8: in a mess.
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Speaker 2: That's even her own message, like I said, Ken Hanson
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Speaker 2: really be worse than what we've got. I was joined
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Speaker 2: a short while ago by One Nation leader Pauline Hanson.
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Speaker 2: Pauling Hanson, thank you so much for joining me. As
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Speaker 2: you said yesterday, have a look at the mess we've
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Speaker 2: now got, So you know, why not make you prime
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Speaker 2: minister instead? So what are the first two things that
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Speaker 2: you would do as prime minister fix that mess?
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Speaker 9: Andrew?
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Speaker 8: Although the polls come out at thirty one percent and
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Speaker 8: we are the most popular party in Australia, now, it's
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Speaker 8: still another year and a half or two years before
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Speaker 8: the next election. I personally think Urban Easy will call
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Speaker 8: an early election and it will be about October November
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Speaker 8: next year. So he bring down a softer budget next
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Speaker 8: year and the.
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Speaker 9: New calling election.
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Speaker 8: He knows he's in trouble, right, so it's the riding's
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Speaker 8: on the wall. So look, who knows what's.
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Speaker 9: Going to happen.
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Speaker 8: But as I've always said, Andrew, the two things that
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Speaker 8: need to change is the mass migration into the country,
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Speaker 8: pull back the numbers on that allow the country to recalibrate.
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Speaker 8: That means, you know, get housing for people. You've got
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Speaker 8: over one hundred and thirty thousand homeless in Australia and
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Speaker 8: we need to address that, the homelessness, the housing. The
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Speaker 8: other one that needs to be addressed is the climate
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Speaker 8: change net zero that is causing so much destruction in
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Speaker 8: the country. I'd chuck down the Climate Change Department. That
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Speaker 8: would save about thirty billion a year and then get
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Speaker 8: rid of all the net zero these wind turbine solar panels,
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Speaker 8: just stop it straight away. If we've got a power
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Speaker 8: our on the contracts and so be it, because they're
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Speaker 8: doing so much damage to our country. And Hans get
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Speaker 8: their qualified power stations going again, kick them in and
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Speaker 8: bring down the prices of power.
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Speaker 2: Well immediately. Your biggest problem now, isn't it is to
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Speaker 2: find a lot of great candidates and are very fast
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Speaker 2: to potentially form the government. I mean that that's what
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Speaker 2: the polls are saying. Let alone a government that works.
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Speaker 2: But pulling in the past, I mean, I've covered this.
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Speaker 2: It's just stunned me. Sometimes you've had people elected into
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Speaker 2: parliament as one nation candidates and then go and betray
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Speaker 2: you statue in the back. Go go their own way,
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Speaker 2: Sarah game last one quit. Brian Burson, quit Fraser and
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Speaker 2: he quit after literally one hour. Rod cutlord and quit,
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Speaker 2: Mark lath and quit, rob Robinson quit. So I was
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Speaker 2: stunned to read that your new MP, David Farley has
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Speaker 2: immediately gone against your policy and announced it. He's going
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Speaker 2: to fly three flags over his office, including the average
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Speaker 2: on Torres straight under the ones. What promise can you
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Speaker 2: give that the One Nation candidates that people vote for
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Speaker 2: actually stick with one Nation and its policies once they
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Speaker 2: get elected.
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Speaker 8: There's a couple of answers in that which you've said.
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Speaker 8: Roder Culton he had a conviction against him prior to
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Speaker 8: him going to Parliament, which he didn't tell me about,
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Speaker 8: so that was constitutional matter. Then you had Mark Glath
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Speaker 8: them of course there was a whole issue about his comments.
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Speaker 8: Brian Burston he left because I would not reindorse him
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Speaker 8: again to stand for the Senate. So there's grievances there.
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Speaker 8: So there has been grievances along the way, and I'm
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Speaker 8: not going to go into the lot with going into
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Speaker 8: it all with all of them.
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Speaker 9: So we're a minor party. Andrew.
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Speaker 8: When I came back into the party to lead it
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Speaker 8: in twenty fifteen, there was nothing. We had no paid
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Speaker 8: up membership, we had no office, we had absolute nothing.
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Speaker 8: The organization that I have built over the ten eleven
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Speaker 8: years is different to what it was when I came back.
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Speaker 8: We have now team around us. We've got people that
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Speaker 8: we know that have been around us for some time now,
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Speaker 8: and the candidates are quality of candidates now that I
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Speaker 8: have got coming forward are very very good candidates and
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Speaker 8: I'm not ready to announce who they are just yet,
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Speaker 8: but anyway, we've had fifteen hundred expressions of interest for
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Speaker 8: people to actually stand for us as candidates next federal election.
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Speaker 8: So the Vedding process is going on at the moment now.
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Speaker 8: When you talk about David Farley, I spoke to him
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Speaker 8: about this and he saw the media kept going on
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Speaker 8: and on and on it. He never said that he
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Speaker 8: was flying three flags. He said he believes in the
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Speaker 8: Australian flag. But he said, you know, you have to
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Speaker 8: actually acknowledge the people here in the nation. And of
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Speaker 8: course they thought that was I'm flying three flags, as
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Speaker 8: I said to him, and there is only one flag.
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Speaker 9: That is the Australian flag.
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Speaker 8: Now, David Farley, you know, he's new to it. He
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Speaker 8: doesn't understand of getting caught up in it and the
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Speaker 8: gotcha moments and all the rest of it. So he
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Speaker 8: is very much one nation and he is very much
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Speaker 8: one flag and that's what he represents. But he's also
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Speaker 8: mindful of the Aboriginals and trying to work with them
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Speaker 8: in his own electorate.
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Speaker 9: So he's trying to find his feet with that.
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Speaker 8: He's probably not as much upfront as what I am.
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Speaker 8: Andrew one flag. There won't be three on the floora Parliament.
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Speaker 8: I made that quite clear. There won't be any more
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Speaker 8: welcome in the country. We will not be divided anymore
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Speaker 8: in this nation and it is one nation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think you're being a bit generous through
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Speaker 2: his comments. It wasn't. It was a bit more declarative
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Speaker 2: than that. But it's interesting that you've gotten to pull
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Speaker 2: his skull in if that's indeed what's happened, Pauline. How
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Speaker 2: many politicians in the Liberal and Labor parties today do
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Speaker 2: you have your eye on to join you, because you
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Speaker 2: do need some experience, provided of course you can persuade them.
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Speaker 2: I know that you do rate South a stream and
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Speaker 2: liberal center Alexandik very high. How many more would you
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Speaker 2: rate and want?
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Speaker 6: Well?
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Speaker 8: Actually none, To tell you the truth, I've had a
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Speaker 8: couple that have shown an interest to me, but I'm
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Speaker 8: not interested, Andrew, I don't want them, you know, unless
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Speaker 8: they've shown some caliber and backbone to stand up and
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Speaker 8: fight for the issues of the strange people. Or are
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Speaker 8: they just opportunists see the riding on the wall and
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Speaker 8: want to just protect their seats in Parliament. I've got
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Speaker 8: too many great grassroots Australians, people from either barrisses, doctors, tradees,
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Speaker 8: all these people that really would love to represent communities.
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Speaker 9: Why would I take people on board?
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Speaker 8: They've done nothing that they've been given the opportunity and
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Speaker 8: they don't have in use they've voice to speak up
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Speaker 8: and fight for their.
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Speaker 9: Concerned, strained people.
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Speaker 8: Why would you get those people that have been part
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Speaker 8: and parcel of the mess that we have in Australia now.
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Speaker 9: So, to tell you the truth, I'm not really interested.
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Speaker 2: Can I go back to you know a lot of
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Speaker 2: people will be getting their heads around the idea of
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hansen Prime Minister after years of treating you like dirt,
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Speaker 2: So let's give them a few little chewing points. Our
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Speaker 2: spending is out of control, as you know, and it's
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Speaker 2: not just causing this inflation that's making people poorer, leaving
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Speaker 2: the young generation with massive debt that dull have to
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Speaker 2: pay off. But it's also left many Austrands depend on handouts.
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Speaker 2: I think it's like a moral hazard. I give you
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Speaker 2: an example, free childcare, even for well off parents. You
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Speaker 2: don't even need the childcare to go to work. They
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Speaker 2: can go and sleep, sleep in or something instead. Which
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Speaker 2: welfare payments would you cut? Because welfare is the biggest
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Speaker 2: chunk of government spending, it's a third.
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Speaker 9: You're right, Andrew.
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Speaker 8: The last figures that I had was approaching about three
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Speaker 8: hundred billion dollars for welfare.
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Speaker 9: Well for the pensions.
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Speaker 8: Ide allowed them to Actually, you know, you don't cut
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Speaker 8: their welfare. I would dearly like to increase the welfare
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Speaker 8: for age pensions, but we can't do it. So I'd
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Speaker 8: give them to be able to go and work unlimited hours.
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Speaker 8: Wouldn't affect their pensions or the healthcare card. Just pay
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Speaker 8: the taxes on the moneys that they make. These people
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Speaker 8: were getting five generations that have been on welfare payments.
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Speaker 8: These people just think they can live a lifestyle. It's
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Speaker 8: their entitlement to actually be welfare that needs to be
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Speaker 8: looked at because it wouldn't go on forever in a
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Speaker 8: day as far as I'm concerned, and there'll be changes
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Speaker 8: to that as well. The welfare peryments. Say you're right
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Speaker 8: about childcare. These people who are quite wealthy are getting
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Speaker 8: the childcare payments paid for. But people who are unemployed
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Speaker 8: as well and on unemployment benefits are actually having more
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Speaker 8: children because they don't have to look after their own children.
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Speaker 8: This was unheard of in my day, Andrew. You know,
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Speaker 8: you don't have children, hand it over to someone else
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Speaker 8: to pay for looking after your own kids. That needs
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Speaker 8: to be looked out, and I think it could be
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Speaker 8: up to twenty hours a week that they're given free
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Speaker 8: childcare at the cost of the taxpayer. There's many issues
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Speaker 8: NDIS needs to be rained in, so that's out.
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Speaker 9: Of control as well. So it's just not that you
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Speaker 9: look at.
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Speaker 8: Also the Aboriginal industry that I've been complaining about for years,
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Speaker 8: the waste of money that goes into a lot of
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Speaker 8: these areas. There's no accountability, there's no audits, even they're
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Speaker 8: asking where is the money that needs a complete overhaul completely?
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Speaker 8: Even after the voice, the government gave ten million dollars
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Speaker 8: to people who were affected and traumatized because the voice
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Speaker 8: went down and it didn't get up. Why are all
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Speaker 8: these handouts all the time? Why six hundred million dollars
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Speaker 8: paid to pattern New Guinea to do.
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Speaker 9: With the football?
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Speaker 8: Why thirty million to a Pacific island because of their
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Speaker 8: fuel problems At the moment, Australians first, and I want
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Speaker 8: to see the money spent wisely and cut the public
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Speaker 8: service up to and increase of fifty thousand dollars under
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Speaker 8: fifty thousand people. I should say, under this government we've
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Speaker 8: got two hundred and sixteen thousand people in public service.
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Speaker 9: So if you cut all the.
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Speaker 8: Regulations can fight, you know, everything they're doing to small businesses, farming,
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Speaker 8: everything like that, we won't need as many public servants.
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Speaker 8: And I'll tell you another thing too, they won't be
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Speaker 8: on this six seven hundred thousand a year. And I
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Speaker 8: get rid of the Sex Discrimination Commission altogether, and the
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Speaker 8: commission who's on four hundred thousand a year because she
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Speaker 8: can't even determine what a male or female is.
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Speaker 2: No, I think you mean the get rid of the
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Speaker 2: whole Australian Human Rights Commission. I'm not sure what good
21:28
Speaker 2: they have done to Australia that outweighs the damage they've done.
21:33
Speaker 2: That's a some agenda. Who would be your treasurer, Andrew?
21:41
Speaker 8: You're really putting the cart before the horse here, right,
21:44
Speaker 8: who'd be the treasurer?
21:46
Speaker 7: You know?
21:47
Speaker 8: Why would I say who's going to be the treasurer?
21:49
Speaker 8: Who's going to hold it? Let's see how we go
21:52
Speaker 8: at the next election. Then those decisions have to be made, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, The AB said Pauline, I'm afraid I did not
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Speaker 2: hear you say that you would sell the ABC.
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Speaker 9: Oh, I've said it on the floor of Parliament.
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Speaker 8: Andrew, I'd only keep funding for the ABC in radio,
22:14
Speaker 8: in rural and regional areas. The other parts of the
22:16
Speaker 8: ABC if they want TV. I think the Landline and
22:19
Speaker 8: some of those programs aren't too bad. I think they're
22:22
Speaker 8: quite good. Let it be subsidized by those who want
22:24
Speaker 8: to watch those programs. Let them earn their living by subsidies.
22:30
Speaker 8: As far as I'm concerned, there'll be no more funding
22:32
Speaker 8: to the ABC and all these organizations. A huge wages
22:36
Speaker 8: thereon and they've been going down to their ratings for
22:39
Speaker 8: a long long time. I could find other good use
22:43
Speaker 8: for that money. It would even help to pay down debt.
22:48
Speaker 2: Tony Abbott is the new president of the Liberal Party.
22:51
Speaker 2: He says it's going to remind voters that he led
22:54
Speaker 2: a Liberal government that was against big immigration in the
22:57
Speaker 2: net zero nonsense. Will he win back voters? Do you
23:03
Speaker 2: think that have gone to one nation?
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Speaker 9: Let's make it quite clear.
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Speaker 8: Tony Abbott is the president of the Liberal Party. Tony
23:13
Speaker 8: Abbott is not on the floor of Parliament and will
23:16
Speaker 8: not be going back in to lead the party.
23:20
Speaker 9: So who is the leader?
23:21
Speaker 8: Angus Tabor, anglic Angus Taylor or Tony Abbott. But you
23:27
Speaker 8: know a lot of these things have continued on under
23:33
Speaker 8: the Liberal Party. Where was Tony Abbot's direction? Then you
23:37
Speaker 8: know he's getting involved now because he knows they're in
23:40
Speaker 8: real problems. Well, Tony, if you really want to get
23:42
Speaker 8: involved and act like the leader, then put up your
23:46
Speaker 8: hand and stand for parliament.
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Speaker 2: I haven't seen Anthony elven Easy come out today to
23:53
Speaker 2: face the music about these polls. How do you think
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Speaker 2: he'd be feeling.
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Speaker 8: I think Anthony Albanisi is now into his second term.
24:03
Speaker 8: I think he'd be quite happy to walk away from
24:05
Speaker 8: politics because he's one of.
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Speaker 9: The ones that will get a pension for.
24:08
Speaker 8: Life with his staff and his car and his office
24:12
Speaker 8: and everything that's given to him. I think the backbenches
24:15
Speaker 8: will be feeling the heat with this, and they won't
24:18
Speaker 8: be happy considering that some of them, I believe will
24:21
Speaker 8: be losing their seats. So I think pressure will be
24:24
Speaker 8: on Anthony Albanese seat and I'll repay him the favor
24:28
Speaker 8: if I have the opportunity by taking his staff away
24:31
Speaker 8: from him, as he's done with me, so I can't
24:34
Speaker 8: do my job properly.
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Speaker 2: Pulling Hanson, thank you so much for your time.
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Speaker 9: Thanks Andrew.
24:45
Speaker 2: After they break the panel on the polls and pulling
24:48
Speaker 2: Hanson and ken Abbitt save the Liberals, well, whatever pole
24:58
Speaker 2: you do, Trush, they will show that Labour's vote since
25:01
Speaker 2: the budget has dropped like a stone. The budget sinks
25:05
Speaker 2: and even as subdued Treasure Jim Chalmers today wasn't pretending
25:10
Speaker 2: it didn't. He instead blamed his old favorite foreigners and
25:13
Speaker 2: the supposed liars of the opposition.
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Speaker 10: This is about the right right outcome, not about the politics,
25:20
Speaker 10: and it's not especially surprising when we've got a budget
25:24
Speaker 10: full of hard decisions and not handouts, when we've got
25:27
Speaker 10: a global oil shot putting pressure on people, and we've
25:30
Speaker 10: got these scare campaigns full of lies, that we would
25:33
Speaker 10: see these kinds of political outcomes from me personally, I
25:38
Speaker 10: would rather get the policy right and lose a bit
25:40
Speaker 10: of skin politically than to take the easy option to
25:44
Speaker 10: leave everything exactly as it is and lock out subsequent
25:48
Speaker 10: generations from the housing market.
25:51
Speaker 2: If it helps him slip at night. Joining me are
25:53
Speaker 2: Michael Kroger former Victorian Deberal President, Steve Conroy for Labour
25:58
Speaker 2: senator and cabinet minister. A bunch of Krager paul inghands
26:02
Speaker 2: in is Prime Minister? Could that really happen?
26:04
Speaker 7: One?
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Speaker 2: Are these polls telling you?
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Speaker 11: Look, I think it's unlikely. But who would have thought
26:11
Speaker 11: they would have won Farah with such a thumping majority.
26:13
Speaker 11: So anything's possible in politics. If we finish third in seats,
26:18
Speaker 11: then we'll elect one nation candidates in country rural semi
26:22
Speaker 11: rurals parts of Australia.
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Speaker 1: So I think it's unlikely.
26:26
Speaker 11: The reason that it's unlikely is the closer you get
26:28
Speaker 11: to the election and the worse the Australian economy get gets,
26:31
Speaker 11: which it is going to deteriorate in many different ways.
26:35
Speaker 11: I think the Liberal votal strengthen because the Liberal has
26:38
Speaker 11: Liberal Party still has solid brand, equity leadership in economic management,
26:42
Speaker 11: and the more you get into an economic crisis, the
26:45
Speaker 11: more the Liberal vote will go up.
26:46
Speaker 2: Andrew, Well, it's seemed to have lost some of that
26:51
Speaker 2: luster before, although the polls are seeming to not a
26:54
Speaker 2: little tick up in economic credibility. But Stephen one nation.
27:00
Speaker 2: We've tended to have talked about the threat to the Liberals.
27:05
Speaker 2: Now I think we should be talking about the threat
27:07
Speaker 2: to labor. And I'm just wondering too, is it only
27:10
Speaker 2: just federal labor that's threatened? What about state labor? The
27:14
Speaker 2: Victorian government facing voters in November.
27:18
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, look, any member of the federal caucus and
27:22
Speaker 5: the Ministry staring at the poll this morning would be
27:26
Speaker 5: wanting to make sure they weren't remotely complacent about the
27:31
Speaker 5: threat of one nation eating into the labor vote and
27:34
Speaker 5: into our seats. And that continues to be moving in
27:40
Speaker 5: Pauline Hanson's favor. So unfortunately, the first cab off the
27:45
Speaker 5: rank as the Victorian government, which as you mentioned, has
27:48
Speaker 5: got an election coming up in just four or five
27:51
Speaker 5: six months, and that's going to be very challenging. The
27:55
Speaker 5: Liberals have got their act together first time in years,
27:58
Speaker 5: and they're starting to you know, Striker flew few blows
28:01
Speaker 5: and you've got one nation. I mean, if I was
28:05
Speaker 5: a Labor backbencher in the State Party, I'd want to
28:10
Speaker 5: think that my primary vote in today is not the
28:12
Speaker 5: margin they got nearly four years ago, but their primary
28:16
Speaker 5: vote would need to be thirty five thirty six percent
28:21
Speaker 5: to be able to think I'm going to get across
28:22
Speaker 5: the line with preferences. If my primary was below thirty
28:27
Speaker 5: six or thirty five, I'd be very very concerned. In
28:31
Speaker 5: the Victorian State Labor government, what.
28:36
Speaker 2: Do you think Steve was doing there? Do you think
28:39
Speaker 2: Michael was that sending a message to labor in peace
28:44
Speaker 2: to get rid of Jacinta Allen's premier.
28:48
Speaker 1: Well probably not, because he's a labor hack from years back.
28:54
Speaker 1: But look look at it this way.
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Speaker 11: Labour's vote cannot increase the Victorian election in ovm Lo.
29:00
Speaker 11: Nobody who voted for the Liberal Party or the National
29:03
Speaker 11: Party or Independence in twenty two is going to suddenly
29:06
Speaker 11: say I think I'll vote for Cintra Allen this time.
29:09
Speaker 11: So their votere's got a decline. The question is how
29:12
Speaker 11: much will it decline. The best thing for Labor to
29:15
Speaker 11: do is to get rid of Allen and put in
29:17
Speaker 11: Ben Carroll. But fortunately the numbers aren't there for Carol
29:20
Speaker 11: to he's the deputy premier for him to get the numbers.
29:24
Speaker 11: I gather because the Socialist left, these extremists, and the
29:27
Speaker 11: Labor Party is sticking with just Cinra Allen.
29:29
Speaker 1: We're supportive of just Cina Allen.
29:31
Speaker 11: Being leader to the election because she is the embodiment
29:34
Speaker 11: of what this terrible Labor government has done to Victoria
29:38
Speaker 11: and she needs to face the judgment of the Victorian people.
29:40
Speaker 11: So I think she's going to stay there and she'll
29:43
Speaker 11: be defeated, and so she should be. It's the worst
29:45
Speaker 11: government we've seen in Victoria in my lifetime. We've bankrupt,
29:51
Speaker 11: it's a crime ridden, crime ridden city state, and it's
29:56
Speaker 11: totally chaotic down here.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. See, you did agree with me that that's the
30:02
Speaker 2: message that Steve was sending elector Ben Carroll as leader,
30:06
Speaker 2: and I do think that would be a change for
30:08
Speaker 2: the better for the for the Labor Party. But rather,
30:13
Speaker 2: you're too careful to tell us exactly what you meant.
30:16
Speaker 2: But so let me go to this just math. What
30:18
Speaker 2: do you think federally imports? Of course it's maths, of
30:22
Speaker 2: course mate. But if everything was maths, the state wouldn't
30:25
Speaker 2: be so bankrupt, would it. What must federally Labor do
30:30
Speaker 2: to save itself?
30:33
Speaker 5: Well, I think we've got you know, people often criticize
30:38
Speaker 5: governments not standing for anything. Well, I think it's very
30:41
Speaker 5: clear that this government has made some tough economic decisions.
30:46
Speaker 5: It's doing what it thinks is right in the face of,
30:50
Speaker 5: you know, the criticism it's receiving. It's also losing some
30:53
Speaker 5: paint over the broken promise and that will take some
30:57
Speaker 5: time to work its way through the system. Some of
30:59
Speaker 5: it won't come back, but some of it will be
31:02
Speaker 5: will be there and next year, I mean it's already
31:04
Speaker 5: been flagged that there might be more tax cuts next
31:08
Speaker 5: year and they're reigning in the NDA. Something is bypars
31:12
Speaker 5: and support to do so. I think promises governments have
31:16
Speaker 5: set well, if the Liberal Party want to support it,
31:18
Speaker 5: then that's where we'll be gained. I saw Tim Wilson
31:22
Speaker 5: who was talking about possibly blocking the endis cuts I
31:26
Speaker 5: mean that's the sort of ludency that you see from
31:28
Speaker 5: student politics. So I can understand why Tony haven't slapped
31:32
Speaker 5: him down today. But what the government needs to do
31:37
Speaker 5: is hold its nerve and to stay with its plans
31:41
Speaker 5: over the next twelve eighteen months well out still from
31:45
Speaker 5: the election. I know Pauline's just said, oh, we're going
31:47
Speaker 5: to have an early election, but I would think that
31:52
Speaker 5: they need to hold their nerve. They're bringing immigration down,
31:55
Speaker 5: the interest rates are going to start coming down.
31:58
Speaker 2: The immigration number unfortunately they said again they said, but
32:03
Speaker 2: the immigration numbers are thirty thousand a year above what
32:09
Speaker 2: they promised. This is the point they make these big
32:12
Speaker 2: cause do they deliver, and that's what they're being punished
32:15
Speaker 2: for for one reason, the broken promises. Absolutely right, But quickly, Michael,
32:19
Speaker 2: before I go, Tony Abbott, new Liberal president, showed at
32:22
Speaker 2: the top of the show, great communic cat, strong message.
32:26
Speaker 2: But to me it comes to the very real danger
32:28
Speaker 2: that he'll look like, you know, the strong version of
32:33
Speaker 2: what Angus Taylor should be, but isn't.
32:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's a great appointment.
32:38
Speaker 11: I think you underestimate Abbot's understanding of how the Liberal
32:41
Speaker 11: Party works. I mean, no one knows the workings of
32:43
Speaker 11: it better than him. He knows his place. He's there
32:46
Speaker 11: not to make policy. But if you look at the
32:48
Speaker 11: things Tony abbitts been saying, their cultural issues that he's
32:51
Speaker 11: been concentrating on, and he's exactly right on what he's
32:54
Speaker 11: been saying. And let's be frank, I don't think there's
32:56
Speaker 11: been a better more effective opposition leader into terms of narrowing, honing,
33:02
Speaker 11: exploiting and delivering on a message than Abbot between his
33:05
Speaker 11: incarnations as leader between seven and thirteen, there was no
33:09
Speaker 11: one better than Abbot. And I think having a powerful
33:12
Speaker 11: figure like Tony Abbott in a leadership role supporting Angus
33:16
Speaker 11: Taylor is a good thing for Liberal Party. I mean,
33:18
Speaker 11: not every shadow minister is listened to. They give me
33:20
Speaker 11: to These people don't listen.
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Speaker 1: They listen.
33:22
Speaker 11: The public will listen to and are influenced by heavyweights.
33:24
Speaker 11: That's why they're influenced. When Paul Keating speaks, people people
33:28
Speaker 11: have done something Abbot. Abbot did think to listen to yourself,
33:31
Speaker 11: and so that's why I think people listen to him.
33:33
Speaker 2: Listen to yourself as a background guy. But it's a
33:36
Speaker 2: powerful leader, he's going to really tell those backbenchers what
33:39
Speaker 2: to do. You know, unbelievable. Mate. You're talking about a
33:43
Speaker 2: guy who will take a leadership for the work.
33:46
Speaker 12: A will.
33:48
Speaker 11: A leadership role in helping hone the messages because that's
33:52
Speaker 11: what the federal secretary we failed at wrote our campaigns.
33:55
Speaker 1: The messages come out of the labor.
33:58
Speaker 5: A silent machine, the best machief competing.
34:03
Speaker 1: I've got to go more effective than ours.
34:06
Speaker 2: Fine, we shall see Michael Krogus Sleeve and Conroy, thank
34:09
Speaker 2: you very much to you both. After the break riots
34:12
Speaker 2: in Paris. This is mass immigration helping to destroy France.
34:21
Speaker 2: On the weekend, another sign the European civilization is dying.
34:26
Speaker 2: Paris football club PSG beat Arsenal in the Champions League final,
34:30
Speaker 2: and that was an excuse for riots and looting, not
34:34
Speaker 2: just in Paris but fifteen French cities. Fifty seven police hurt,
34:39
Speaker 2: one person killed and seven hundred and eighty people arrested.
34:44
Speaker 2: You just look at the rioters. I may be wrong,
34:46
Speaker 2: but it seems to me to be again, a high
34:48
Speaker 2: proportion of people of Middle Eastern and African appearance among
34:52
Speaker 2: the feral whites. Everyone seeming keen to destroy Paris, living
34:57
Speaker 2: smoldering wrecks of other people's property. I wonder is this
35:01
Speaker 2: our future?
35:01
Speaker 7: Two?
35:06
Speaker 2: But back home, Chine is now so threatening. But the
35:10
Speaker 2: United States has just told us we can't have one
35:13
Speaker 2: of its new Virginia class nuclears submarines. Now, we had
35:18
Speaker 2: actually spent hundreds of millions of dollars on a down
35:21
Speaker 2: payment for that one new sub and two secondhand ones
35:24
Speaker 2: of the same kind. But Mary Carrot can't build these
35:27
Speaker 2: nuke subs for itself fast enough. So now we're told
35:32
Speaker 2: to believe that, you know, getting three secondhand subs is
35:35
Speaker 2: even better than one new and two used defensements of
35:41
Speaker 2: Richard Morle says, Look, if we've got three similarly used subs,
35:44
Speaker 2: it's going to be cheap here and easier to maintain.
35:46
Speaker 2: Joining me is the country's top foreign affairs writer, Greg
35:49
Speaker 2: Sheridan of The Australian. Greg, it's not often someone sells
35:53
Speaker 2: you something very expensive and says you're lucky. Secondhand is
35:57
Speaker 2: actually better than you.
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Speaker 6: Andrew great to be with you. You're absolutely right. I
36:03
Speaker 6: think this is a sign of the unraveling of the
36:05
Speaker 6: orchest feel really so, the original deal was that we
36:09
Speaker 6: were to buy three to five Virginior class submarines. There's
36:13
Speaker 6: no memory and no mention now of the three to five,
36:17
Speaker 6: it's just three. They're meant now they're all going to
36:20
Speaker 6: and they were to be two secondhand ones so we
36:22
Speaker 6: could learn how to drive them and then a new one.
36:25
Speaker 6: Now there all to be secondhand ones. Now this shows,
36:28
Speaker 6: I think clearly that the Americans aren't building subs fast enough.
36:32
Speaker 6: That's absolutely true. They need to be building two and
36:35
Speaker 6: a half a year virtually to satisfy their own needs
36:39
Speaker 6: and then have a couple left over for us. They're
36:41
Speaker 6: building about one point three a year, or maybe a
36:45
Speaker 6: fraction higher than that. So they're way way off and
36:48
Speaker 6: they haven't got anywhere near it. Now, why did Pete
36:51
Speaker 6: Hegseth say such nice things about Richard Marles, Well, there
36:55
Speaker 6: are two reasons. One is we are going to pay
36:58
Speaker 6: the Americans billions and billions of dollars before we get
37:02
Speaker 6: a submarine as a contribution to their submarine manufacturing base.
37:07
Speaker 6: Now I don't really object to this altogether, but this
37:10
Speaker 6: is a kind of a you know, this is a
37:13
Speaker 6: sort of a political bribe money and as well as that,
37:17
Speaker 6: where offering every basing facility that the Americans could possibly
37:22
Speaker 6: want in our territory. Now I think that's smart because
37:25
Speaker 6: that ties American military forces to us, But none of
37:30
Speaker 6: that constitutes any capability on our own part. And it's
37:37
Speaker 6: a massive payment in order to get good comments to
37:41
Speaker 6: get a benediction from the Trump administration on the Albanza
37:45
Speaker 6: government while it continues to massively underspend. At the same time.
37:49
Speaker 6: Just to add one other thing, the Australian National Order
37:53
Speaker 6: offers which the government is now refusing to give proper
37:57
Speaker 6: information about defense projects to because its reports are always
38:01
Speaker 6: so embarrassing. It's just come out with a devastating report
38:05
Speaker 6: that we can't even upgrade the Columns class submarines. So
38:09
Speaker 6: we've been saying for years that we're going to have
38:12
Speaker 6: a life of type extension of the Colon subs to
38:15
Speaker 6: make them go for at least a decade beyond their
38:17
Speaker 6: use by date, and now it turns out we haven't
38:20
Speaker 6: got a clue. We don't know how to do it.
38:22
Speaker 6: It's beyond us. It's too big an engineering job. We're
38:25
Speaker 6: going to upgrade them to make them compatible with the
38:27
Speaker 6: French subs, but when we decided not to buy the
38:30
Speaker 6: French subs, we didn't change the upgrades. So we've now
38:33
Speaker 6: got hundreds of millions of dollars of French compatible equipment
38:36
Speaker 6: that we'll never use. It's beyond satire. Now. My point
38:39
Speaker 6: about that is, how on earth, if you cannot upgrade
38:44
Speaker 6: a columns sub, can you possibly run, much less manufacture
38:49
Speaker 6: a nuclear sub. I don't think we're going to be
38:51
Speaker 6: ready when the time comes, and I don't think the
38:54
Speaker 6: Americans are going to be inclined to give us anything
38:57
Speaker 6: other than maybe a boat right at the end of
38:59
Speaker 6: its life, its service life, that we could use as
39:03
Speaker 6: a training boat and potter about with. So true, and
39:07
Speaker 6: that would suit the Albanezy government because they haven't had
39:10
Speaker 6: to spend much money.
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Speaker 2: Greg, if a second hand sub was better than you,
39:16
Speaker 2: we should have just said to the United States, look, no,
39:19
Speaker 2: you should have the second hand. We'll take that dard
39:22
Speaker 2: new one off you. You know, we're nice like that.
39:26
Speaker 2: You know quickly, I'm running out of time and sorry,
39:29
Speaker 2: you're pulling Hanson. We gave her a bit of extra
39:32
Speaker 2: time squeezing everything. There's still no peace steal between the
39:35
Speaker 2: US and Iran. And that's a couple of weeks after
39:37
Speaker 2: we were told one was coming imminently. And in fact
39:41
Speaker 2: there's been more US attacks on the weekend and Iranian
39:44
Speaker 2: military targets on the coast there near the the Strait
39:49
Speaker 2: of Her Moors. What is actually going on.
39:52
Speaker 6: Well, Andrew, I've been saying for a while now. I
39:54
Speaker 6: think we're in a very difficult stalemate there. I don't
39:57
Speaker 6: mind the Americans attacking sources in Iran which are attacking
40:03
Speaker 6: independent shipping. The Americans are doing this to try to
40:06
Speaker 6: maintain their own blockade of Iran and to try to
40:09
Speaker 6: limit the new minds that Iran would lay in the
40:12
Speaker 6: straightupor moves. I honestly think the nuclear thing is going
40:16
Speaker 6: to be a fudge whenever it's done. But I think
40:18
Speaker 6: the big sticking point is that Iran is not going
40:21
Speaker 6: to give up the control of the Stradiphor moves, and
40:24
Speaker 6: Trump really can't bear a deal in which they retain
40:28
Speaker 6: the Stradipor moves. It's pretty clear that Trump doesn't want
40:31
Speaker 6: to relaunch all out war, both because that's unpopular at
40:34
Speaker 6: home and because Iran can retaliate against the Gulf Arab States,
40:39
Speaker 6: the United Arab Emirates, and the Saudis. And I think
40:42
Speaker 6: we're likely to have this prolonged stalemate for quite some time,
40:48
Speaker 6: and I don't know yet. It may be that the
40:51
Speaker 6: embargo will buckle eventually, but I can't see a solution
40:55
Speaker 6: in the near future.
40:58
Speaker 2: Well you come bearing a glad timings not Greg Sheridan,
41:02
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for your time. Really appreciate that.
41:05
Speaker 2: After the breaking, disturbing letter from Tim Flannery's Climate council,
41:09
Speaker 2: should children really be frightened like this? Tim Flannery, that
41:17
Speaker 2: climate alarmist that the Gillard labor government made our first
41:21
Speaker 2: climate commissioner. His climate council is now sent out a
41:25
Speaker 2: mass email and in it, it's head of strategic communications
41:29
Speaker 2: says she'd ask her kids what should be done about
41:32
Speaker 2: global warming, and she reckons their answers show the children
41:37
Speaker 2: who see the world with clarity. She writes, my eight
41:40
Speaker 2: year old east And said, we shouldn't dig oil, gas
41:43
Speaker 2: and coal up anymore. Why do we need these things anyway?
41:48
Speaker 2: My six year old Indiana said, it's really sad we
41:51
Speaker 2: are because I don't want one single person to die.
41:56
Speaker 2: That's why today I'm sharing a simple guide with you.
41:59
Speaker 2: Their mother says, how to talk about climate change with kids?
42:05
Speaker 2: I mean seriously joining me A Lisa Godaud former foreign
42:08
Speaker 2: correspondent and founder of Adani Media hascarne You's host Sneiki
42:11
Speaker 2: Di Georgio and Lisa really exploring kids like that, frightening
42:15
Speaker 2: kids like that. You know, climate change will kill us.
42:17
Speaker 2: What do we need, Cole for taking advice from your
42:20
Speaker 2: kids and putting them up there in the public debate?
42:23
Speaker 2: Is all that? Any of that acceptable?
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Speaker 12: Well, Andrew, you could imagine the conversations in that house.
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Speaker 12: You know they'd be broad ranging. I'm sure as they
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Speaker 12: staying around the dinner table, they certainly wouldn't be talking about, Hey,
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Speaker 12: sixty four percent of the electricity in New South Wales
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Speaker 12: today is coming from coal. Those conversations wouldn't be happening.
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Speaker 12: And look, it is no great win in child psychology
42:41
Speaker 12: to be a surprise that these children who are being
42:44
Speaker 12: taught the world is ending are now frightened that they
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Speaker 12: think the world is actually ending. And I went through
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Speaker 12: this report very quickly, and you know, goodness help us
42:52
Speaker 12: if it ends up in schools and being handed out
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Speaker 12: to parents. But it says the very first point, be curious,
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Speaker 12: ask questions about what your children understand or don't underst
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Speaker 12: And how about we start asking them to be curious
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Speaker 12: about the predictions and what's come true and what hasn't.
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Speaker 12: To try to put this scale of fear that they're
43:08
Speaker 12: living through in some sort of perspective, because, as you
43:11
Speaker 12: say with Tim Flannery two thousand and seven, the dams
43:13
Speaker 12: won't fill again, those questions aren't being asked for these kids.
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Speaker 12: Do you understand that that didn't happen. We've actually had
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Speaker 12: flood since then. I just find the whole thing is alarming,
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Speaker 12: and we are We're seeing a generation of kids come
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Speaker 12: through that are being taught this stuff, and no one
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Speaker 12: is asking them to actually question what is actually happening
43:30
Speaker 12: in the energy grid, what do we need to keep
43:32
Speaker 12: this country moving? And Chris Bowl will be thrilled because
43:35
Speaker 12: part of this is well the solutions, their renewables and
43:38
Speaker 12: gets what they're cheap.
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Speaker 2: Denika, you know, I feel so sorry for a six
43:44
Speaker 2: year old thinking global Woman's going to kill it when
43:47
Speaker 2: the evidence is that I can't remember the exact percentage,
43:50
Speaker 2: just something around the order of ninety nine percent fall
43:53
Speaker 2: in your chances of being killed by climate catastrophes in
43:57
Speaker 2: the past century, as something like that figure from Bjorn Lomborg.
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Speaker 2: I mean, really, kids, how many six year olds, do
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Speaker 2: you know go around thinking climate change is going to
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Speaker 2: kill us?
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Speaker 3: Well, probably the only person who would have been six
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Speaker 3: and saying this would be Greta Thumberg.
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Speaker 9: And this is all that we need.
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Speaker 3: Andrew is a whole new generation of Greta Thumberg's telling
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Speaker 3: each and every one of us, how dare you? But
44:21
Speaker 3: this is exactly what they are doing, and they are
44:24
Speaker 3: brainwashing children. And it kind of reminded me. Do you
44:27
Speaker 3: remember a couple of years ago there was that big
44:30
Speaker 3: climate strike where children were encouraged to skip school to
44:33
Speaker 3: protest against inaction on climate change. And you had all
44:37
Speaker 3: these kids out in the streets across the country and
44:39
Speaker 3: they were crying on camera and they would have been
44:42
Speaker 3: about ten years old, balling their eyes out because their
44:44
Speaker 3: mum and dad have told them all, you know, we're
44:46
Speaker 3: going to die. And this is the problem. You are
44:49
Speaker 3: caring the next generation. If you are six years old,
44:52
Speaker 3: you should be out there playing, learning, absorbing. And this
44:56
Speaker 3: is the problem with kids. They are such sponges and
44:59
Speaker 3: they are so in presstable, so what you tell them
45:02
Speaker 3: actually sticks. And these are the children that are going
45:04
Speaker 3: to be entering the workforce. And then go on to
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Speaker 3: become adults, and they're going to be scared out of
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Speaker 3: their wits that bad things are going to happen because
45:12
Speaker 3: they have been indoctrinated from such a young age. Please
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Speaker 3: let children be children, let them go and learn, and
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Speaker 3: just stop with this ideology and the brainwashing.
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Speaker 2: But Lisa also, it's actually a fraud to say, you know,
45:28
Speaker 2: I'm getting a clarity of thought from a six year
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Speaker 2: old and an eight year old for two reasons as
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Speaker 2: a fraud, isn't it. One is that they're only repeating
45:35
Speaker 2: to you what you told them, And the second is
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Speaker 2: the idea. The reason that you don't get that same
45:42
Speaker 2: clarity or that single mindedness from adults is that ours
45:45
Speaker 2: tend to see more of the complexity, the difficulties, the costs,
45:50
Speaker 2: you know, the fact that it isn't all black and white.
45:53
Speaker 2: That's why you get the clarity from kids.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, but the children growing up in a bubble where
45:58
Speaker 12: this is all that they're hearing, as Nika said, and
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Speaker 12: the problem is, well, they're not being taught is critical thinking.
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Speaker 9: None of this.
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Speaker 12: If you look at that whole brochure, it's about how
46:06
Speaker 12: to continue them down the path of believing that climate
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Speaker 12: change is going to end this planet unless we take
46:11
Speaker 12: drastic action, and fossil fuels are.
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Speaker 2: The number one enemy, so child's abuse.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, it's about giving them the ability to do some
46:18
Speaker 12: critical thinking around this as they move into the teen
46:21
Speaker 12: years and then into the workforce, because goodness help us
46:23
Speaker 12: if we don't.
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Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson is Prime Minister, Deanika, can you see it?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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Speaker 9: Why not?
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Speaker 3: I mean, look, she's going the trajectory of Nigel Farage
46:33
Speaker 3: over in the UK. It's the exact same blueprint for
46:36
Speaker 3: what's happening here in Australia. Look, the silent majority have
46:39
Speaker 3: had enough and the silent majority have turned to a voice,
46:41
Speaker 3: and that voice is Pauline Hanson. There's a reason why
46:44
Speaker 3: her party is now number one in the polling, ahead
46:46
Speaker 3: of Labor and the Liberal Party. It's because she is
46:48
Speaker 3: the only politician with conviction and strength and that is
46:51
Speaker 3: what the majority of Ozzie's are now looking for if
46:54
Speaker 3: the polls are correct. Look Pauline Hansen. Look, it's been
46:57
Speaker 3: an incredible rise. But she talks Frank, she talks to
47:00
Speaker 3: you and she says lower migration. She's happy to have
47:04
Speaker 3: these discussions. Van the Burker again, happy to have the discussion.
47:07
Speaker 9: She knows what a woman is.
47:08
Speaker 3: For goodness sake, I mean, our politicians and Cambell bureaucrats
47:11
Speaker 3: still fall over themselves answering that very question. So yeah,
47:16
Speaker 3: of course I can see it absolutely happening.
47:18
Speaker 2: Why not.
47:19
Speaker 3: We don't have conviction politicians right now in this country
47:22
Speaker 3: and certainly Pauline Hanson is providing that voice.
47:27
Speaker 2: Except Lisa. Let's have a reality check. Really, it's still
47:32
Speaker 2: her party is only given the first only is given
47:36
Speaker 2: the first preferences of thirty one percent of Australians. There's
47:40
Speaker 2: a plenty of Australians of a certain kind that would
47:43
Speaker 2: rather die in a ditch than give her her their preferences.
47:46
Speaker 2: So the majority know, but a very substantial minority of
47:52
Speaker 2: people that are supporting her.
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Speaker 12: Well, it will be the system that works against her again,
47:55
Speaker 12: which would see her not end up in the lodge.
47:57
Speaker 12: And that would be a sad thing because if you
47:59
Speaker 12: look at what has happened to the vote on the right,
48:02
Speaker 12: people are turning to one nation and so have the
48:04
Speaker 12: Liberal Party, so they won't preference one nation or the
48:06
Speaker 12: Nats turned the back on one nation in any seat
48:09
Speaker 12: where they stand a candidate means that they're not listening
48:11
Speaker 12: to what the majority of Australians are right now saying,
48:13
Speaker 12: which is we want these hard, hard calls being made
48:16
Speaker 12: on immigration. We want someone to stand up and say
48:18
Speaker 12: we will have energy into the future, all those important
48:21
Speaker 12: things that Pauline Hansen is talking about. That's what you're
48:23
Speaker 12: seeing reflected in the polls. And look, Hanson herself was
48:26
Speaker 12: asked about this yesterday and she's what I like is
48:29
Speaker 12: that she's not performing like any other politician. She never has,
48:33
Speaker 12: but she answers the question directly, as Danika said, and
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Speaker 12: she's not using those And I work with sporting stars
48:38
Speaker 12: and all kinds of people across the corporate world. They're
48:41
Speaker 12: very adept at using the Let me be clear about this.
48:44
Speaker 12: Let me put that into perspective. All those bridging techniques
48:46
Speaker 12: that you hear the politicians.
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Speaker 2: They all sat on, people I work.
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Speaker 12: With all say I don't want to sound like a politician.
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Speaker 9: Well guess what.
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Speaker 12: Pauline Hansen doesn't sound like she does. And that's what
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Speaker 12: the Australian people like.
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Speaker 2: Lisa, Lisa, Danika's or Cha. Thank you to you both
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Speaker 2: coming up next this Sherry Maxon good Night, h