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  Speaker 1: This is the report. It tonight the Defense blow America
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  Speaker 1: asks ephen carmakers to make missiles to prepare for war.
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  Speaker 1: But here shock news. The Abanize government will next years
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  Speaker 1: spend even less on our defense. Also tonight, it's not
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  Speaker 1: just Jews and new reports as more than ninety percent
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  Speaker 1: of Christians in Australia say they face more hostility and
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  Speaker 1: the Pope at tax greed it accepts a new Ferrari
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  Speaker 1: plenty more coming, including Barnaby Joyce. But first today is
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  Speaker 1: another wake up to the fact that this really is
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  Speaker 1: a socialist left government, so keen to spend money, no
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  Speaker 1: idea what it takes to earn it. Now, let me
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  Speaker 1: illustrate our point problem with an amazing that over in
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  Speaker 1: Britain former labor promise to Tony Blair. He's just published
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  Speaker 1: a five thousand, six hundred word essay savaging the labor
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  Speaker 1: government over there making this same point, or spend no
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  Speaker 1: earn and he warns by the end of this decade
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  Speaker 1: Britain could be spending more on incapacity and disability benefits
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  Speaker 1: than on defense, and says no serious country can do that,
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  Speaker 1: except that makes Australia a very, very unseerious country because
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  Speaker 1: our Albanizi government will next year spend sixty three billion
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  Speaker 1: on our defense, but it will spend fifty percent more
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  Speaker 1: than that on disability schemes and benefits and carers. So
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  Speaker 1: it's not surprising then that our government is so desperate
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  Speaker 1: for more money that is making this cash grab on
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  Speaker 1: people who start and invest in the businesses that we
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  Speaker 1: desperately need to pay for all the benefits we keep
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  Speaker 1: voting for. And the Prime Minister and its ministers, well,
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  Speaker 1: they dress up these higher taxes on capital gains from
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  Speaker 1: these investments in a socialist mantra that capital has got
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  Speaker 1: to be taxed like wages, as if the two are
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  Speaker 1: the same.
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  Speaker 2: It is better aligning income from work with income from assets.
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  Speaker 1: That's called tax reform.
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  Speaker 3: Taxes paid on income from assets should be better aligned
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  Speaker 3: to taxes paid on wages.
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  Speaker 4: Better aligning the tax treatment of labor and assets, mister speaker,
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  Speaker 4: but a stony Blair also said in that manifest though
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  Speaker 4: against the modern left, the left's call for equalizing capital
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  Speaker 4: gains and income taxes something rejected by successive governments for
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  Speaker 4: good reason, and one of the mains plane wages are
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  Speaker 4: not the same as capital gains you earn a wage,
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  Speaker 4: you generally don't risk losing everything. You start a business,
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  Speaker 4: invest in it and you could lose it all. And
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  Speaker 4: if people get taxed out of taking that risk, we
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  Speaker 4: are in such terrible strife. Without innovation, without investment in
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  Speaker 4: new businesses, this country is going to get much poorer
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  Speaker 4: very fast.
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  Speaker 1: Now. Today another labor leader could sure see that, and
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  Speaker 1: he called for the Albany's government to at least exclude
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  Speaker 1: the kind of businesses that has made his state rich.
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  Speaker 1: And Sir Roger Cook, Premiere of Western Australia.
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  Speaker 5: We want to make sure that it doesn't disincentive incentivize
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  Speaker 5: both international investment in our major projects but also exploration
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  Speaker 5: by our small viners.
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  Speaker 1: But I have to admit, if this albany See government
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  Speaker 1: is financially incompetent, it at least is sure brilliant a
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  Speaker 1: spin and politics, although I suspect the strains now see
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  Speaker 1: through that as well. This morning, Treasure Jim Chalmers tried
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  Speaker 1: the most outrageous stunt. You know. He rushed in a
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  Speaker 1: bill that included his capital gains tax changes when the
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  Speaker 1: bill didn't actually say who would pay for it, which
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  Speaker 1: people exactly would be paying and which would be exempted
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  Speaker 1: under the changes that even labor people are now demanding.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, cis charmers. The detail is yet to come.
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  Speaker 4: Government is consulting with stakeholders on the treatment of capital
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  Speaker 4: gains of small and startup businesses where indexation.
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  Speaker 1: Is applied to a low or zero cost base.
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  Speaker 4: Further consideration will also be given to a range of
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  Speaker 4: specific details such as interactions with attribution, managed investment trusts,
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  Speaker 4: tax consolidation, residency changes, along with other relevant issues, and
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  Speaker 4: we're appropriate these details will be finalized in subsequent legislation
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  Speaker 4: following consultation.
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  Speaker 1: Let me translate that guligook. This is madness, that's all.
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  Speaker 1: It's madness because the first thing you want to know
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  Speaker 1: about a new taxes, who's going to pay it? But
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  Speaker 1: here we have the government saying, well, we'll work that
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  Speaker 1: out later, let's put this in law first. What on
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  Speaker 1: earth then, is this bill for? And the answer is
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  Speaker 1: for a shabby political trick the governors including in this
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  Speaker 1: bill it's unrelated promise to give taxpayers two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: fifty dollars just a fraction of the bracket creep that
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  Speaker 1: you lose every year, so that if the Opposition now
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  Speaker 1: says no to the capital gains changes, opposes this bill.
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  Speaker 1: Labor can say something as dishonest as this. We know
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  Speaker 1: that these changes are contentious.
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  Speaker 4: We have seen dishonest scare campaigns already and deliberate distortions.
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  Speaker 1: Of the truth. But it's also a fact.
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  Speaker 4: That this bill presents a choice, a choice between cutting
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  Speaker 4: income taxes for Australian workers or keeping them higher, a
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  Speaker 4: choice between standing with first home buyers or locking more
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  Speaker 4: Australians out of the housing market.
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  Speaker 1: Just to speak up what a fraud official Leader Angus
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  Speaker 1: Taylor was banged on today that these higher taxes on
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  Speaker 1: capital gains and negative gearing there it's a broken promise
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  Speaker 1: and this is an underhand move.
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  Speaker 2: Frankly, Labor should have taken this to the people, and
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  Speaker 2: their refusal to do so says they are cowards, they
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  Speaker 2: are liars and they are sending Australian small businesses down
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  Speaker 2: the stream.
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  Speaker 1: But let me finish on one more laughable bit of
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  Speaker 1: spin from the government. I mean outrageously huts Pa. I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's this brazen boast from the agekre minister dismissing
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  Speaker 1: calls from the Liberals, particularly from the National Sedandamcanavan a
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  Speaker 1: new election. If you want to mandate go to a
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  Speaker 1: new election. He dismisses these calls the agekre minister, because
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  Speaker 1: get this, Australians trust this Prime minister, who, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: lied and lied and lied to them.
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  Speaker 6: Australian people emphatically re elected the Alberanese Labor government.
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  Speaker 1: But not on these changes. But they trust their governments.
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  Speaker 6: They trust Anthony Abernese is the Prime Minister of Australia
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  Speaker 6: to look at the circumstances that our country faces and
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  Speaker 6: to make the best decisions in our national interest.
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  Speaker 1: We trusts, they aven easy. We're trusting to lie, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tick, and we're trusting to spend. Perhaps we're trust
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  Speaker 1: into tax for sure. And that's especially when the government's
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  Speaker 1: hand picked treasure ahead of Treasury today, I mean talking
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  Speaker 1: about Utzba day today was defending this tax grab and
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  Speaker 1: rejecting the critics with this astonishing line.
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  Speaker 3: In some instances, this may largely affect the fact that
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  Speaker 3: individuals are sensitive about paying additional tax, which is totally understandable.
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  Speaker 1: But revenue needs to be raised from somewhere. Oh, we
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  Speaker 1: got to get more money from something. Hey, how about
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  Speaker 1: cutting spending, cutting spending instead or helping this country grow.
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  Speaker 1: I mean trust alban easy, if only we trust them
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  Speaker 1: to help this country of ours get richer before it
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  Speaker 1: all hits the fan. And it's straight away. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: in question time today exactly that dishonest spiin the I
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  Speaker 1: showed you being aid in front of your eyes. The
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister was accused correctly of bringing in tax hits
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  Speaker 1: that he lied about, had no mandate for, and he
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  Speaker 1: claimed the Prime Minister falsely. Oh the Libs just against
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  Speaker 1: that tiny tax offset that has slipped into that legislation
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  Speaker 1: this morning, I mean more lies.
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  Speaker 2: Why the Prime Minister hasn't got the guts to take
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  Speaker 2: his toxic taxes to an election.
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  Speaker 4: The leader of the Opposition was triggered when I was
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  Speaker 4: talking about reducing income.
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  Speaker 2: Text immediately you speak about reducing taxes and they get upset.
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  Speaker 1: I was joined a short while ago by our regular
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  Speaker 1: Thursday commentator, One Nation MP Barnaby Joyce, the former Deputy
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  Speaker 1: Prime Minister. Barnaby Joyce, great to see you again. Matt
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  Speaker 1: Canavan says the government should call an election to get
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  Speaker 1: a mandate for these taxes. Angus Taylor dared the Prime
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  Speaker 1: minister today to get the guts to call it too.
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  Speaker 1: What do you say.
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  Speaker 7: I'd like them to call an election just quietly, because
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  Speaker 7: I think one nation would do exceedingly well, to be honest, tactically,
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  Speaker 7: I don't think it's a good idea obviously to get
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  Speaker 7: a mandate from the people. Yeah, certainly, I don't think
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  Speaker 7: the Australian people are going to be very happy with
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  Speaker 7: the Labor Party right now. I think they would really
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  Speaker 7: serve it to them. And of course the Labor Party
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  Speaker 7: are not going to call an election because i'd have
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  Speaker 7: to call on the premise that they're liars. They're liars, liars,
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  Speaker 7: they lie, they don't tell the truth, and we've seen
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  Speaker 7: that in the things that they've said before the election,
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  Speaker 7: which they are completely dispensed with after the election. One
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  Speaker 7: of the things they dispensed was the truth. And even
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  Speaker 7: today are the questions that I've asked, this opaque evasiveness
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  Speaker 7: when they know the answers, they just don't want to
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  Speaker 7: tell you.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, you ask them to nominate to the nearest five
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  Speaker 1: billion dollars, how much of their tax pace money is
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  Speaker 1: being splashed around on the wind farm contract? Has the
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  Speaker 1: investment scale they wouldn't tell you.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, Oh my gosh, mate, Oh my one second.
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  Speaker 1: Now, it's interesting. I was reading this amazing indictment of
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  Speaker 1: the British labor government by former Labor Prome Minister there
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  Speaker 1: Tony Blair, and it's like it could be applied word
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  Speaker 1: for word to Australia. For instance, he says it's a
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  Speaker 1: sign of a society that's not serious if a country
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  Speaker 1: spends more on disability welfare than it does on defense.
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  Speaker 1: And I looked at the figures. In fact, way more
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  Speaker 1: than fifty percent more is spent in Australia on disability
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  Speaker 1: services than on defense.
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  Speaker 7: What does that tell you? It means that you're being
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  Speaker 7: ripped off. That's what means. A person on the NDII
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  Speaker 7: should have the capacity to look at another taxpayer who
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  Speaker 7: goes to work and say, my affliction justifies you're going
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  Speaker 7: to work for me, and I'll stay at home and
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  Speaker 7: you work for me.
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  Speaker 1: And if you don't believe that.
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  Speaker 7: You'd get away with that, well maybe you shouldn't be
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  Speaker 7: on the India, we have this ridiculous scenario of over
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  Speaker 7: three quarters of a million people are now on the
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  Speaker 7: NDIS and it's heading towards a million and the average
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  Speaker 7: costs an excess of sixty five thousand dollars per person.
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  Speaker 7: So when you look at a person on the NDIS
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  Speaker 7: and you think I am going to work, how long
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  Speaker 7: do I have to work for to pay for that
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  Speaker 7: person's sixty five thousand dollars. Now, if you're a paraplegic, quadriplegic, schizophrenic,
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  Speaker 7: I get that, But there are a lot of other
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  Speaker 7: afflictions which I would say are minor walking sticks. And
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  Speaker 7: in life, nobody's perfect. You've got to pick yourself up
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  Speaker 7: and do the best job you can. And we just
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  Speaker 7: cannot go on borrowing money to pay for people to
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  Speaker 7: stay at home because of an ailment. Everybody's got an ailment,
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  Speaker 7: but it's got to be a major ailment.
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  Speaker 1: Before it justifies everybody.
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  Speaker 7: Else going to work to pay for you.
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  Speaker 1: Look, we could be this generous if only we had
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  Speaker 1: a system that really encourage entrepreneurship, new business, get up
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  Speaker 1: and go, lots of tax incentives that you know, low
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  Speaker 1: taxes just make it. You know it is over and
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  Speaker 1: I'm just wondering about what's happened there. Look, I have
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  Speaker 1: to say on that point, and these crazy taxes on
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  Speaker 1: capital gains obssually, Angus Taylor, or the extra taxes rather
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  Speaker 1: some taxes of course, okay, obvisually, Angus said, I think
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  Speaker 1: Barnaby has found some real mojo on this issue. I
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  Speaker 1: thought he summed up the case against the government very
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  Speaker 1: well today by trying to get a debate on this.
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  Speaker 1: Have listen.
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  Speaker 2: This House condemns the Alban easy Labor government for one
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  Speaker 2: arrogantly misleading Australians about the government's plans for toxic taxes,
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  Speaker 2: two not having the courage to take their toxic taxes
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  Speaker 2: to the Australian people at an election, three taxing Australians
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  Speaker 2: more than any other Australian government in history, saying the
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  Speaker 2: hardest working Australians who are willing to take risks and.
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  Speaker 1: Who have made the biggest sacrifices.
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  Speaker 2: And five hurting Australians without any understanding of who will
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  Speaker 2: be punished and to what extent Australians will be worse off.
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  Speaker 1: Got to be I actually like that, Angus Taylor, that
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  Speaker 1: Angus Taylor are not the one that was a word
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  Speaker 1: salard machine before.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was a lot more decisive and yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 7: I mark him up on that. Unfortunately, after that he
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  Speaker 7: sat down, which you're not supposed to do. You're supposed
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  Speaker 7: to continue his speech. When he sat down, that's the
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  Speaker 7: end of your speech. And his speech ended with his question.
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  Speaker 7: But put that aside. I think that the Labor Party
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  Speaker 7: have provided a lot of material. They're creating a nation
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  Speaker 7: where if you're successful, they punish you, and if you
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  Speaker 7: peeed up against the wall, you're in a better position.
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  Speaker 7: People who go into business they buy capital assets with
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  Speaker 7: after tax money. They could spend it if they wish,
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  Speaker 7: but they are prudent and they build up a business,
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  Speaker 7: which builds up the entrepreneurial flare and the economy of Australia.
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  Speaker 7: It works our balance sheets, it makes our nation a
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  Speaker 7: stronger place. But if you say to people who are
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  Speaker 7: starting off, if you're successful, we're going to tax you,
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  Speaker 7: and if you fail, like many small businesses do, tough
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  Speaker 7: luck because it makes it a very obvious choice as
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  Speaker 7: to what you should do. And they seem to think
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  Speaker 7: that return on capitals like salarym wages. It's not salarym
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  Speaker 7: wages doesn't come with a massive risk of putting your
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  Speaker 7: neck out in the line with money you've saved in
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  Speaker 7: the hope that your business that you set up, will
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  Speaker 7: get ahead, and that's what the Labour Party's done. And
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  Speaker 7: they say, oh, there's roll over relief.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got to.
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  Speaker 7: Stay in business for fifteen years and arright at the
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  Speaker 7: age of fifty five and have a turnover of less
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  Speaker 7: than two million dollars and assets of less than six
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  Speaker 7: million dollars, and on and on it goes. And I
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  Speaker 7: suppose if you don't dig those boxes.
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  Speaker 1: You don't get it.
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  Speaker 7: And what we want is to encourage people to take
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  Speaker 7: the risk like they do in Singapore, in the United
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  Speaker 7: States and New Zealand, because that's how you grow the
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  Speaker 7: strategic asset base of your nation, of which one of
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  Speaker 7: the greatest components is the entrepreneurial flare of those inclined
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  Speaker 7: to take the risk.
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  Speaker 1: Wells so true. I mean, can you imagine if everyone
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  Speaker 1: was on a salary, who'd actually create those businesses in
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  Speaker 1: the first place. I mean, that's the thing who would
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  Speaker 1: actually be employing, apart from government, all these people. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the thing that the government doesn't seem to get
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  Speaker 1: in his head. Salary and investment in the capital they
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  Speaker 1: are not the same. But anyway, there you go, Baaby Joyce,
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  Speaker 1: thank you so much. Indeed for your time, absolute pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously we are battling a huge hatred of
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  Speaker 1: Jews and it's an embarrassment to us. But this is
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  Speaker 1: actually part of a wider attack on Western culture and
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  Speaker 1: the religions which shaped it. Because today a first ever
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  Speaker 1: report was released on the hatred here faced bark Christians
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  Speaker 1: as well. It's called the Australian Christian Freedom Index and
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  Speaker 1: the some appalling facts. Join me is a co author,
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  Speaker 1: Michelle Piers, who's also the head of the Austraian Christian Lobby. Michelle,
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  Speaker 1: great to see you. You surveyed more than ten thousand
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  Speaker 1: Christians in Australia, a fair number. And what is so
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  Speaker 1: sad is that the overwhelming majority ninety two percent say
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  Speaker 1: it's become riskier to be a Christian today than it
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  Speaker 1: was five years ago. Why is that what's changed?
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  Speaker 8: You know, it's actually it's true.
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  Speaker 3: It's not just a perception that it's riskier to be
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  Speaker 3: a Christian, it's actually a fact. During the last twenty
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  Speaker 3: five years, seventy four pieces of legislation were passed that
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: restrict religious freedom. Half of those have been passed in
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  Speaker 3: the last five years. That's triple the amount that were
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  Speaker 3: passed in the twenty years before that. So it's not
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  Speaker 3: only a perception that Christians have that it's riskier to
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  Speaker 3: be a Christian today than it was five years ago.
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  Speaker 3: It's actually a reality. But we had other astounding facts.
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  Speaker 3: They were unsurprising, but still they're shocking. We found that
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  Speaker 3: over seventy percent of Christians feel pressured to keep their
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  Speaker 3: faith silent. We found that over forty percent regularly facing harassments, hostility,
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  Speaker 3: and even threats, and twenty five percent that's one in four,
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  Speaker 3: have actually been denied opportunities at work. They've been denied
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  Speaker 3: volunteer opportunities, They've been denied leadership opportunities simply because of
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  Speaker 3: the fact that they're Christian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you why this is so, but
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  Speaker 1: here's a clue, because there's one thing that you report
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't surprise me. I have to say that the
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  Speaker 1: state ranked most hostile to Christians is the most aggressively
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  Speaker 1: left wing one, Victoria. The Act is next. That's the
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  Speaker 1: territory of a whelming public service, very high Greens and
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  Speaker 1: labor vote. Why are they the worst? Do you think?
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  Speaker 1: And Western Australia the best? Well, I mean we.
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  Speaker 3: Heard a number of people actually provide stories things that
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  Speaker 3: they're facing on the ground. We have pastors who can't
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  Speaker 3: pray for people that are struggling with their sexuality even
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  Speaker 3: when people ask for prayer because of conversion therapy.
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  Speaker 9: Ends in Victoria.
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  Speaker 3: So you know that the laws that are passing in
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  Speaker 3: the States have a chilling effect on Christian freedom. You know,
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: they don't know if they're being set up by somebody
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: who's coming in to ask for prayer. We're seeing so
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  Speaker 3: many changes to our anti discrimination law framework that elevate
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  Speaker 3: some rights above other rights, putting Christians in a very
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: difficult position of having to choose between you know, their
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: workplace and their job, or to be to you know,
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  Speaker 3: go by their conscience, by their conscientious protect We hear
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: from medical professionals who don't have conscientious protections in their workplace.
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  Speaker 3: They're having to participate in the referral process for abortions
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  Speaker 3: and euthanasia even though they deeply believe in the sanctity
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  Speaker 3: of human life that no life should be taken, and
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  Speaker 3: yet they're forced to participate or risk losing their job.
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  Speaker 10: Again.
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  Speaker 3: Unsurprisingly, but shockingly, healthcare was seen as the most restrictive
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  Speaker 3: on religious freedom.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Michelle Pierce, normally you'd say the solution is to
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  Speaker 1: make government's pass laws to protect freedom of religion, particularly
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Christian religion in this case. But every time I see
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that mooted, I see the kind of politicians and activists
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: who are in charge of the drafting of these things
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: want to in fact effectively restrict it. It never is
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: more freedom. It always seems to end up, yes, what
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: can we do about it?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I mean, what we really need is cultural change. We
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: used to live in a society where people were free
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: to share their beliefs. Now certain types of beliefs are
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: being restricted, sanctioned, and people are facing consequences for believing
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: certain things, particularly about gender and marriage. And you know,
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: we celebrate values. It seems like the highest of our
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: values of tolerance and inclusivity, but it's not tolerating Christian
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: belief and it's not being inclusive of Christians. And we've
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: seen that clearly come through in our survey. So we
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: need culture change. But because we are seeing such significant
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: hostility towards Christians in the workplace, we are advocating that
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: freedoms do need to be constitutionally enshrined. That would be
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: the ideal situation. But we need a referendum.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: Yes, well, I mean.
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I think for the Christian leaders of Australia, well maybe
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: the Christian leaders of Australia think for a start should
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: stand up. Every Christian shall profess their faith. And I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: say that as an agnostic missile Pius, thank you so
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: much for your time. After the break, America goes to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: an emergency war footing you won't believe the example you're
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: about to hear. While our defense spending next year will
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: be actually less. How stupid are we? This governor is
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: still asleep, you know, still doesn't see how desperately fast
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we need to arm ourselves. And you report out today
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: by this strange Strategic Policy Institute points out something alarming.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: It says, you know, great that the government does now
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: admit the danger we're in as a plan to get
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: what we need to defend ourselves. But hang on, defense
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: spending next financial year actually goes down before going up again.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Most of the big promises it's made come much later,
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: maybe too late. And it says the government says it's
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: spending much more, you know, since the government claims to
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: be spending much more. But the bottom line is that
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we're still waiting for the reality to match the rhetoric.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And let me switch a bit and show you the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: danger the whole West really is in for not spending
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: enough to prepare for the danger that we're now in.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Since China, Russia, Iran and North Korea have formed an
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: alliance that's behind these wars that were now struggling to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: win like Ukraine. Now the war in Iran has taken
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: attention and weapons away from the war in Ukraine, and
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: that's caused the crisis. Ukraine this year was humiliating Russian
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: President Vladimir Putin, who was slowly pushing back Russian troops,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: killing huge numbers of soldiers. In fact, the head of
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Britain spay Ag z GHQ said yesterday almost half a
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: million Russian soldiers have been killed in this war. That's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: more than any war since World War Two. Ukraine is
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: also destroying Russian oil depots and refineries more this week,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: one in Tuapsei and Pteras army and economy is so
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: devastated that he is now lashing out madly in desperation.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: On Sunday, Russia fire at about ninety missiles and deployed
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: six hundred strike drones are mainly civilian targets in Ukraine,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: including a hypersonic missile was fired as well, and Putin
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: seems close to bullying his ally Belarus on Ukraine's northern border.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It's adjoining in. You can imagine where this is going.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: The barrage is already so huge that Ukraine is running
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: out of anti missile defenses and this week begged the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: US for more patriot anti missile defenses. But here's the
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: problem the US and Ukraine's European allies, they are short
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: of exactly that, because they've sent so many patriot missiles
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: to defend Gulf countries from Iranian attacks. I spoke earlier
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to General Jack Keane, a form of chief of Staff
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: in the United States Army now chairman of the Institute
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: for the Study of War, General King, great to see
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: you again. How serious is the situation in Ukraine?
• 25:11
  Speaker 11: The Ukrainians have been punching into deeper into Russia, taking
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: down all storage facilities and industrial base capability that's supporting
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: the war, and also reaching into Moscow with multiple long
• 25:24
  Speaker 11: range strikes. And then Russia had an appeal to the
• 25:27
  Speaker 11: United States for a ceasefire. Today could conduct their May
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: Day Parade because they feared the Ukrainians were intervene with it.
• 25:36
  Speaker 11: I don't think Zelenski had any intention of doing that,
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: but the fact that Russia felt that kind of intimidation,
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: I think all of this together has sparked Putin to
• 25:47
  Speaker 11: conduct this massive attack on Kiev to kind of demonstrate,
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: largely for his domestic audience, but also so much for
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: his international audience that they really are dominating the war,
• 26:00
  Speaker 11: which is a complete falsehood.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: They are not.
• 26:02
  Speaker 11: I'm not suggesting that the air campaign that they are
• 26:05
  Speaker 11: conducted is not threatening. It is certainly that's the case,
• 26:10
  Speaker 11: But overall the momentum has shifted truly to the Ukrainians.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: That said, the fact that Ukraine is running out of
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: patriots defenses, particularly against ballistic missiles. They can handle the drones,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: the holistic missiles are something else, and as for the
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: hypersonic missile, that's something else. Again. Doesn't this show general
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: something I think that well, we've both been talking about
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: before that all these wars are related. The war in Iran,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: the war in Ukraine, the war in Lebanon, and China's
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: threat of a war in Taiwan, and not just because
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they involved the same hostile alliance China, Russia, Iran. But
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: because they are draining the weapons of the West.
• 26:54
  Speaker 11: What is happening here in the States and not particularly
• 26:57
  Speaker 11: visible to people, is we're on a path that we
• 27:01
  Speaker 11: haven't been on since World War Two. We've got scores
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: of non defense industry companies manufacturing missiles of all sorts
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: of descriptions, and some of them are the same capability.
• 27:18
  Speaker 11: Is are very expensive, multi million dollar missiles deliver pretty
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: much the same capability, but not necessarily exactly for you know,
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: thirty forty percent less of the price and being able
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: to get them developed that much faster. So we're in
• 27:34
  Speaker 11: a full throttle here with kind of a World War
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: two mentality in terms of bringing the United States up
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: to the kind of depth and readiness that we need.
• 27:45
  Speaker 11: I mean, what happened here The Trump administration came into
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: office and they inherited a mess. I mean this alliance
• 27:51
  Speaker 11: that you referenced China, Russia or on North Korea. So
• 27:55
  Speaker 11: vulnerability in the United States is no, it's not an
• 27:58
  Speaker 11: isolated event. Who invaded Russia during that administration believing that
• 28:04
  Speaker 11: the United States leadership was weak and therefore vulnerable, and
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: they saw an opportunity. It's not isolated that Iran urged
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: its proxies to move on Israel during this timeframe, and
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: that's the reality of it in President Sheese activities during
• 28:21
  Speaker 11: the Biden administration. Double But yeah, we got a major
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: lesson learned here, and it's something we've been talking about.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: For a number of years.
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: But there's nothing like the real pressure of what's taken
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: place in terms of potential serious weapons degradation and the
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: fact that we're moving with resources, new authorities from the
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: Congress and new companies to help do it. As an example,
• 28:49
  Speaker 11: in full disclosure, General Motors a company. I provide some
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: advice to the CEO of Mary Bear Nothing. I don't
• 28:56
  Speaker 11: know how to run General Motors, but I do know
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: how to describe the world a person that runs an
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: international company. And she went to see the Deputy Secretary
• 29:10
  Speaker 11: of War over another issue, and he said, Mary, I
• 29:14
  Speaker 11: know you used to do things in World War Two.
• 29:17
  Speaker 11: I know you're building tactical vehicles for the army. I
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: would like you to start manufacturing missiles for us and
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: get back to some of the things he used to
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: do in the past.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: So we are making.
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: A major, major turnaround here to face the reality of
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: what previous administrations have done and not muscling up the
• 29:40
  Speaker 11: way we should have based on what the threat is.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: That's an extraordinary, anecdotic extraordinary. As you say, it sounds
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: almost like a World War two footing. I'm afraid general
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: that that is not the same here. We are hastening
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: very slowly. In fact, I think the next financial years
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: new report come out suggests that OW to FA spending
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: will actually fall next the next financial year before going
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: up again. It's really a very different mindset. I'm afraid. Finally,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump a week ago implied a peace deal with
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Iran will be signed within hours, and a week later
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: still hasn't happened. How long do you think before the
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: President loses patients, realizes Iran's hardline is are yet again
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: stringing him along, and starts the bumbing again.
• 30:30
  Speaker 11: To be quite frank about it, I do think the
• 30:34
  Speaker 11: President was in a position to initiate combat operations again.
• 30:40
  Speaker 11: I along with other observers and advisors, certainly thought that
• 30:47
  Speaker 11: was the correct path and had stated so privately and publicly.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: But he was approached.
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: By Pakistani leadership, Kataria leadership, and other Arab leaders who
• 30:59
  Speaker 11: really believe that there was an opportunity here to make
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: a deal with the Iranians based on some feedback they
• 31:05
  Speaker 11: were getting from the Iranians, and also, to be quite
• 31:08
  Speaker 11: frank about it, some of the Gulf states who owned
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: oil and gas infrastructure were worried about the destruction of
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: that gas and oil infrastructure if we went back to
• 31:19
  Speaker 11: combat operation. But all that said, the President thought there
• 31:22
  Speaker 11: was an opportunity here and he has jumped on it.
• 31:27
  Speaker 11: I do think I think you are absolutely correct in
• 31:30
  Speaker 11: your assessment. The Iranians when they shut down the Straits
• 31:34
  Speaker 11: and Moves, their objective was to stop the war, and
• 31:37
  Speaker 11: they achieved that, and then their second objective, certainly was
• 31:42
  Speaker 11: to string out negotiations as much as possible to elongate
• 31:48
  Speaker 11: the war. And as a result of that, the political
• 31:52
  Speaker 11: economic pressure on the President and the administration would mount
• 31:57
  Speaker 11: so much so that they think that now, after we
• 32:00
  Speaker 11: have a sixty day negotiating window following on to what
• 32:05
  Speaker 11: has been a six week window, they believe the likelihood
• 32:10
  Speaker 11: of the President going back to combat operations in the
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: end of July, say, when our elections take place the
• 32:18
  Speaker 11: first week in November. I think the Iranians are calculating
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: that to be slim to none. But then again they
• 32:25
  Speaker 11: have miscalculated this president, and he said today at a
• 32:29
  Speaker 11: cabinet meeting with the media. President therefore, talking to the
• 32:33
  Speaker 11: American people, I'm expecting a perfect deal or I'm going
• 32:37
  Speaker 11: to have to choose the alternative, and of course that's
• 32:40
  Speaker 11: return to combat operations. He's trying to tell the Iranians
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: he has patients, he's not succumbing to what they think
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: is the pressure of midterm elections. I suspect if this
• 32:51
  Speaker 11: deal doesn't come to fruition, he'll live up to his
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: word here and return to combat operations.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, I think you are right about the divisions in
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: the Iranian leadership. You've got some talking piece, You've got
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: others saying let's lay some minds and streadfom was so
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: clearly there at war with each other as well as
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: with the US. General Jack Keane, thank you so much
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: for your tone. Always good talking to Han Andrew. Thank you.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: There's more signs that are of how fragile this US
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: is far with Iran really is. By the way, early
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: today the US destroyed four drones. Iranian drones hit the
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Commands Center near Bandar rabas trying to launch a fifth
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: The US called it another purely defensive operation. Iran's Revolutionary
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: Guard Corps claimed it in turn hit an unnamed US base,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: but Qait said it actually shot down Iran strones. This war,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: it's more likely to go big than to end. After
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: the break, the Pope attacks agreed and then accept so
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: free Ferrari the panel. After this, a fourth Australian woman
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: linked to the Islamic State has been arrested. She returned
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: in September. She's of one of the women who came
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: back this month and has been charged with being a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: member of a terrorist organization and with entering a declared
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: conflict zone.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: In the past three weeks, the New South Wales and
• 34:20
  Speaker 8: Victoria Joint counter Terrorism Teams have charged four women for
• 34:23
  Speaker 8: terrorism related offenses or crimes against humanity and slavery offenses.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Investigations are continuing in all recent adult female retornees who
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: spent time in internally displaced persons camps in Syria.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Now all these women and the many children have been
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: allowed to return, just when Home Affairs counter Terrorism Coordinator
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Brendan Dowling told the Parliamentary Committee this week that we
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: needed even more money to deradicalize people.
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: We're seeing more people being radicalized, more people being radicalized quickly.
• 35:00
  Speaker 12: How I would characterize it is a sense from the
• 35:03
  Speaker 12: jurisdictions that this will need This will be an area
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: in which they will continue to need funding.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Joining me are Gematonini economists and communications Because something Chris
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: McSweeney has worked for coalition prime ministersm premiers. I would
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: have thought the cheapest way to stop radicalization is not
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: to let in those who may be most likely to
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: become radicalized. Ah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 13: I mean, look, that sounds like the obvious answer, I think, Andrew.
• 35:30
  Speaker 13: But the truth is, I think a little bit more
• 35:33
  Speaker 13: complex in the sense that broadly this issue has been
• 35:38
  Speaker 13: simmering along for probably longer than this government wants to
• 35:42
  Speaker 13: admit than any of us would like to admit.
• 35:46
  Speaker 9: I think the thing we can all agree on.
• 35:47
  Speaker 13: Is that the action that needs to be taken to
• 35:51
  Speaker 13: counter this frightening radicalization that was just spoken about that
• 35:55
  Speaker 13: we heard in that grab, it needs to be deliberate,
• 35:57
  Speaker 13: It needs to be doubled down on, It.
• 35:59
  Speaker 9: Needs to be aggressive.
• 36:00
  Speaker 13: For want of a better word, this isn't a game.
• 36:03
  Speaker 13: This isn't something that needs to be sort of dealt
• 36:06
  Speaker 13: with kid gloves. This is something that in many ways
• 36:08
  Speaker 13: is existential. We need to be acting, you know again,
• 36:14
  Speaker 13: I use the word aggressively against this phenomenon and start
• 36:21
  Speaker 13: to have hard conversations. I think Andrew is the part
• 36:23
  Speaker 13: of it. I think this government is as allergic to
• 36:26
  Speaker 13: hard conversations as it is to accountability.
• 36:28
  Speaker 9: And that serves nobody.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: No, you don't need to tell me. It's both sides
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: of politics. I've been saying for many, many, many many
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: years immigration intake was adding fuel to a fire. Christy,
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: what do you make of the lesson here? Here we
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: have these returnees and accept that the way the law
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: is now, it's hard to keep them out permanently. But really,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: when the radicalization programs need more money, we have a
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: big problem.
• 37:00
  Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I think for Australians that don't
• 37:03
  Speaker 14: live in communities where radicalization is occurring, and it is
• 37:06
  Speaker 14: occurring in a lot of communities around Australia, for Australians
• 37:10
  Speaker 14: who don't live in those communities or haven't had exposure
• 37:12
  Speaker 14: to that, this has made it real to them that
• 37:16
  Speaker 14: this happens in Australia, that radicalization takes place in Australia
• 37:21
  Speaker 14: and that yes, we can't do anything about bringing these
• 37:25
  Speaker 14: people home, or we can, but the government didn't want
• 37:27
  Speaker 14: to go down that road. And there's been external pressures
• 37:31
  Speaker 14: from the United States saying take them back. And there
• 37:33
  Speaker 14: are children involved as well. But government is hard. Making
• 37:37
  Speaker 14: decisions is hard. Drawing a line in the sound about
• 37:40
  Speaker 14: what it's acceptable in Australia is hard. And admitting to
• 37:43
  Speaker 14: the Australian public that you are going to have millions
• 37:47
  Speaker 14: and millions and millions in taxpayers expenditure helping these children
• 37:52
  Speaker 14: rehabilitate to Australia. And more to the point, you have
• 37:55
  Speaker 14: Chris Mins out asking for more money to do so
• 38:00
  Speaker 14: it's really difficult for Australians to grasp the concept.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Of yeah, well, I saw the New South Wales Premier
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Chris Mins ask the government for more money to help
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: settle in people. I mean, really, you see the problem already, Jemma.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Let's switch to another real problem I think with this country.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: You know, taxing, initiative, taxing, incentive, taxing people who take
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a chance to create a business. The ABDI governments attack
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: on capital gains comes when the Pope, by the way,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: has attacked what he calls the idolatry of profit. Particularly
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: he claims among ai companies behind this new industrial revolution,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: he attacks the profit motive gemma. So this is a
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: worldwide phenomena of the West, I think. At the very
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: same time, the same time that he accepts a gift
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: of the latest Ferrari, what is a three quarter of
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a million dollar plaything of the rich. I guess he's
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: giving his blessing because it's all electric. But does this
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: structure positions strike you as a little odd.
• 39:02
  Speaker 9: Oh gosh, not at all.
• 39:03
  Speaker 13: I think it's completely on brand, to be honest with you,
• 39:06
  Speaker 13: and I say that I do.
• 39:08
  Speaker 9: I think it's completely on brand.
• 39:09
  Speaker 13: I mean, I think one of the things that always
• 39:11
  Speaker 13: used to bother me in it still bothers me.
• 39:13
  Speaker 9: For example, is when.
• 39:14
  Speaker 13: My old Catholic parish back in Perth is to be
• 39:16
  Speaker 13: forced to fundraise to, you know, buy a new playground
• 39:19
  Speaker 13: for the for the primary school adjacent to the church.
• 39:22
  Speaker 13: And you've got one of the biggest property owners in
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: the world in the Catholic Church, you know, and families
• 39:27
  Speaker 13: of fundraising to buy a swing set. That kind of
• 39:29
  Speaker 13: thing really bothers me. I mean, what is the Pope
• 39:31
  Speaker 13: going to do with this ferrari. Maybe he'll sell it.
• 39:33
  Speaker 9: I don't know. Maybe it's a holy ferrari. I don't know.
• 39:36
  Speaker 9: But this Pope, you know.
• 39:39
  Speaker 13: With the greatest of respect to my Catholic friends, I
• 39:42
  Speaker 13: think Pope feels to me a lot more like a
• 39:44
  Speaker 13: politician than a spiritual leader.
• 39:47
  Speaker 9: He talks about things.
• 39:49
  Speaker 13: Like this and the irony is obviously is obviously lost on.
• 39:53
  Speaker 9: Him, you know.
• 39:53
  Speaker 13: And I just I don't think we've had a decent
• 39:57
  Speaker 13: pope since John Paul too. Frankly, Andrew say bring him back,
• 40:00
  Speaker 13: if we could bring the.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Jump all to a great man. I once had the
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: huge honor of doing a radio cross from the microphone
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: in this that he used in the studio he used
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: in the Vatican. What a great great man. It was,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: great Christy. You know, I'm sure the farry is going
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: to be for charity, but honestly, to bless, essentially an
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: electric car that you'll left to drive a twelve thousand
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: kilometers and recharge only with wind and solar power, not
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: out of history from colon gas before he made up
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: for the missions created and making it. I don't know
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: about that. What did you think of this gesture?
• 40:45
  Speaker 14: I thought, well, that's going to be very difficult to
• 40:47
  Speaker 14: drive around on the cobblestone streets of the Vatican, isn't it.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: But fast in the world.
• 40:56
  Speaker 14: Look, a lot of people look to religious leaders and
• 40:59
  Speaker 14: the poping, you know, one of the main ones in
• 41:01
  Speaker 14: the world for moral guidance. But I would stop short
• 41:05
  Speaker 14: of taking entrepreneurial business advice from him, or technology advice
• 41:11
  Speaker 14: around the challenge of artificial intelligence.
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  Speaker 9: That is my two sense.
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  Speaker 14: An electric vehicle does not make a technology expert.
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  Speaker 1: I'm nearly out of time, Jemmy, But here's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that Pope preaching against AI writing you know, there's some
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  Speaker 1: aspects of it that we need to worry about, of course,
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  Speaker 1: but the profit motive as well. Seriously, we have to
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  Speaker 1: be less worried about the profit motive and more worried
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  Speaker 1: about incentivizing people to take a chance in business, don't we.
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  Speaker 13: I mean, this is what I meant when I said
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  Speaker 13: that he sounds more like a politician and one from
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  Speaker 13: the socialist left, because you know they alsoy oh, the
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  Speaker 13: evil of profit. Who do you think pays tax? Who
• 41:53
  Speaker 13: are you going to tax when no one's making profit?
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  Speaker 13: And attack the public sector like sorry, this is just
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  Speaker 13: such a ridiculous narrative that that those of us in
• 42:02
  Speaker 13: the private sector have probably allowed to grow and fester.
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  Speaker 13: To be honest, but you know, profit is an evil.
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  Speaker 13: The Bible actually doesn't say money is the root of
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  Speaker 13: all evil. Andrew, let's have a Sunday school lesson. It
• 42:13
  Speaker 13: says the love of money, and thank God for people
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  Speaker 13: who've made a lot of money and they lead in philanthropy.
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  Speaker 13: Look at the art sector in this country. Look at
• 42:20
  Speaker 13: the generosity of the Jewish community in this country. I
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: don't understand how Yeah, I'm I'm with Christie. I mean,
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  Speaker 13: take all of the no, I got it, take all.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Look if you think it's bad, if you
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  Speaker 1: think profit's bad, wait till you get the losses. Germint
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  Speaker 1: on Nini, Christy McSweeney, thank you very much to you both.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: After the break, Patrick Christie's I know I've already quoted
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: former Labor Prome minist the Tony Blair a few times
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  Speaker 1: the night, but I've got to say, you know, this
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  Speaker 1: five thousand, six hundred word blast that Britain's absolutely hopeless
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  Speaker 1: socialist labor Prime Minister Kiyas Starmer in his government reads
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: like a blast of the Albanize government as well, because
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: so let me read out one bit that please God
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that Albanez he reads this one. Blair warns that labor
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  Speaker 1: is you know, choking growth, and he warns against exactly
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  Speaker 1: what our labor government is doing. Here is says, does
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  Speaker 1: our economy need right now the goal of clean energy
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: or cheap energy or cheap energy? How do we justify
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: adding to the welfare build when there's already beloning. Taxes
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: are high and getting higher, and we're told we have
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: to increase defense spending to prepare for the possibility of war.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: I mean, for a word, joined me from London as
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: gb host Jimmy News host Patrick Christie's Patrick, it's true.
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  Speaker 1: You know Tony Blair might be a labor legend, but
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: I tell you this is warning that the left today
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  Speaker 1: should be healing, that it is destroying Britain and should
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  Speaker 1: I say Australia.
• 44:05
  Speaker 10: As Will Well, Tony Blair is known in Britain as
• 44:08
  Speaker 10: mister unflushable. He kickstarted a lot of what is wrong
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  Speaker 10: with our country, massivetgratsiness, the big push on woke in
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  Speaker 10: the public sector, telling every child to go to the university,
• 44:19
  Speaker 10: the Iraq war. However, he is right about this The
• 44:23
  Speaker 10: New Reporter has just landed in this country in the
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  Speaker 10: last hour, which shows that more than one million young
• 44:29
  Speaker 10: people in Britain are now not in work, education or
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: training and that is a lost generation. In fact, it's
• 44:35
  Speaker 10: shown that twenty seven migrants are hired for every single
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: British work. We've got the highest energy costs in the
• 44:43
  Speaker 10: developed world. We're not drilling our own oil and gas,
• 44:46
  Speaker 10: but we are importing it from Russia, so we are
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: now funding both sides of the Ukraine War.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I could go on here.
• 44:52
  Speaker 10: We've got more than one point four million more people
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  Speaker 10: on benefits since Labor took office. It's around seven million
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  Speaker 10: people in total.
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  Speaker 1: One in ten of us.
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  Speaker 10: The welfare bill now exceeds what we bring in from
• 45:05
  Speaker 10: income tax. Look, it's a death spiral. It's an absolute
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  Speaker 10: death viral. And for the first time in my lifetime,
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  Speaker 10: the best and brightest are leaving for a better life
• 45:16
  Speaker 10: elsewhere en Mass. Not just when they used to come
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  Speaker 10: to places like Australia or do bio America because they
• 45:21
  Speaker 10: might have liked the culture or the weather a bit more.
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  Speaker 10: Now they are genuinely doing it because there is more money,
• 45:27
  Speaker 10: more opportunity, and it's safer, and that is a big,
• 45:31
  Speaker 10: big problem for Britain.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: I know, I'd read the other day a Headliners saying,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, good news, nit immigration in Britain has finally fallen,
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: and you look at the figures. It's not because there
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: are a few of people coming in. There's a lot
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: of more Britain's leaving for bitter places. I mean, mate,
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: you're right, this sounds like a dead spiral. Meanwhile, of
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: course you've got to talking about, you know, political collapse.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Another former lift wing leader formers Scottish Chief Minister Nicholas
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Sturgeon less admirable than Tony Blair. I tell you she
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: faces real questions Patrick about her now a strange husband
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  Speaker 1: who spent around six hundred and fifty thousand dollars of
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: money that he embezzled from his wife's Scottish Nationals party
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: at Aationlist party on stuff like a motor home, like cars,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: like luxuries such as Manblan pens and expensive handbags that
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Nicholas Surgeon herself used. And apparently we're supposed to believe
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: he did all of this without this Scottish first minister,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: renowned for you know, being eye for detail noticing and asking,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: dear husband, where did you get all that money?
• 46:50
  Speaker 10: She's the least curious woman in history. I don't know
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: about you, but if I bought four or five games consoles,
• 46:57
  Speaker 10: a couple of luxury cars, a massive motor home, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 10: spent two and a half thousand pound on salt and
• 47:03
  Speaker 10: pepper grinders, I think my wife would start to ask
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  Speaker 10: a few questions.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: But not Nicola Sturgeon.
• 47:09
  Speaker 10: You know you rightly said her husband. They're pled guilty
• 47:11
  Speaker 10: to embezzling four hundred thousand British pounds or party funds.
• 47:15
  Speaker 10: The big question is how could she not have noticed?
• 47:17
  Speaker 10: You know, she said that she was cooperating with police
• 47:20
  Speaker 10: at all times. Then it's emerged that she gave a
• 47:22
  Speaker 10: no comment interview, which is not cooperating.
• 47:26
  Speaker 14: Is it?
• 47:26
  Speaker 10: She's now reinvented herself. Despite campaigning her entire life of
• 47:30
  Speaker 10: Scottish independence, she appears to have moved down to start
• 47:33
  Speaker 10: a new life in London and become a lesbian, something
• 47:35
  Speaker 10: that she's done articles and interviews about, and it's raising
• 47:39
  Speaker 10: questions about what kind of marriage she actually had Because
• 47:41
  Speaker 10: that motor home was parked outside her mother in law's
• 47:44
  Speaker 10: house for two and a half years and she claims
• 47:47
  Speaker 10: that she never saw it. Now, people might not like
• 47:49
  Speaker 10: their mother in lawa I happen to be very lucky
• 47:51
  Speaker 10: with mine. But you know you will go around to
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: the house at some point in two and a half years,
• 47:55
  Speaker 10: won't you, and probably see the massive motor What was
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: going on?
• 48:00
  Speaker 14: Really?
• 48:00
  Speaker 10: When it comes to this, perhaps perhaps not noticing your
• 48:03
  Speaker 10: husband's brand new campervan or luxury cars makes more sense
• 48:06
  Speaker 10: if you're never really at home with them.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Now, Patrick, you might be a little unfair, because we
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: have to bear in mind the Nicola Sturgeon's Chief Minister
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: of Scotland did have a vision problem that she couldn't
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: tell the difference between a man and a woman and
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: kept locking the men into in women's prisons. So you know,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: maybe what you're saying, it's not that unusual. Oh you
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: know what where you put it like that?
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: Andrew, you know, between her and Stevie wonder you can
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: actually see exactly why they didn't notice any of this
• 48:36
  Speaker 10: stuff going on.
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  Speaker 1: Hose remarks, Patrick, Chris is always great to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about. See you next week. Thank you very much.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: Let's see from me coming up next to the most
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  Speaker 1: excellent Sherry Marxon good note,