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- 0:00Welcome to World View Matters, discussing controversial issues, discerning current events,
- 0:10defending biblical Christianity, no topic, off limits.
- 0:16And now, here's your host, David Firazzo.
- 0:19Hello friends, thank you so much for tuning in to another episode.
- 0:23I've got the Heidi St. John with us again, are you ready to hear from her?
- 0:29She just got back from Australia, her website, HeidiStJohn.net.
- 0:33You can find her on all the social media outlets.
- 0:37And we just appreciate you guys tuning in on Heidi.
- 0:39We appreciate your time.
- 0:40Good to see you sister.
- 0:41Hey my friend, it's great to see you, great to be back in the States.
- 0:45I'm always happy to come home.
- 0:46Yes, let's catch up.
- 0:48So you were in Australia, let's start right there and tell me about the trip.
- 0:52Do you ever there speaking the comparisons with the climate there spiritually with Australia
- 0:58to America?
- 0:59What are some takeaways?
- 1:01Well, lots and lots of takeaways.
- 1:03I think the big one, when you say climate, the first thing, of course, the king of my
- 1:06mind was it's summertime in Australia right now.
- 1:09So I went from winter time and really cold weather, cold temperatures here to 90 plus degrees
- 1:16every day that we were there.
- 1:19The country of Australia is an amazing place to be.
- 1:22I was really surprised at how deeply into a nanny state Australia has become.
- 1:29There are cameras literally everywhere in Australia, you know, as most of you will remember
- 1:35during COVID, they are one of the most locked down nations in the world.
- 1:41Victoria and Australia really, really hardcore into socialism.
- 1:46I also found something really interesting about the Australians that I didn't know and that
- 1:50is they do not have the freedom of religion in Australia that we enjoy here in the United
- 1:55States.
- 1:56They have freedom of association, but they do not have freedom of religion technically.
- 2:00And so it's very, it's a very spiritually dark place.
- 2:05I think that we do not see a lot of just, you know, gospel messaging there.
- 2:09And so that's what I was doing there.
- 2:11I was traveling with my friend Ken Ham and the team from answers in Genesis for a tour
- 2:15that they were calling the gospel reset tour back to the beginning.
- 2:18So we were just taking people back to the authority of scripture and they are starving
- 2:25for it over there.
- 2:26We went back, we talked about marriage and family, interesting to note that in Canada,
- 2:32many of the Christian schools are taking money from the government and as such, they are
- 2:36teaching government mandated curriculum there.
- 2:39I saw many examples of curriculum from Christian schools in Australia that are teaching gender
- 2:45ideology, radical gender ideology, promoting homosexuality.
- 2:49It's really amazing what happens when Christians seed the territory.
- 2:54And certainly I saw a lot of that in Australia.
- 2:57I also think it's really important to point out that the people there were extraordinary.
- 3:02And I had the opportunity to pray with a lot of people.
- 3:04We saw lives being changed.
- 3:06The gospel go forward with power.
- 3:09The world needs Jesus and the gospel changes people.
- 3:12And we saw that happening in real time in both Melbourne and the sunshine coast.
- 3:16So just an extraordinary event.
- 3:18So Heidi, rewind just a little bit.
- 3:20I want to make sure I heard something correctly.
- 3:22Did you say Christian schools and gender ideology?
- 3:27And if so, did you mean Christian schools?
- 3:30Yeah.
- 3:31Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
- 3:33And in fact, I spoke at a place where right maybe the night before, one of the parents
- 3:38who have a child in that Christian school sent me a PDF from a workbook that their daughter
- 3:44was going through in the fourth grade.
- 3:47And it was talking about how you feel on the inside and that your gender may not conform
- 3:52with your biology.
- 3:53And this is garbage.
- 3:55And this is what happens, David.
- 3:56It's really important to point this out.
- 3:58This is what happens when Christians try to Christianize secular education.
- 4:04When the foundation is off and our foundation is not the Bible, good luck with the rest
- 4:09of it.
- 4:10You get the leaning tower of pizza.
- 4:12You get the leaning tower of Christian thinking because it's not built on the foundation
- 4:19of God's word.
- 4:20We shouldn't be asking what the world thinks about gender and sexuality.
- 4:23We should be asking what God thinks.
- 4:26And God gives the answers to all these questions in Genesis 1 to 11.
- 4:29Every question that we are asking right now in the culture as Christians has already been
- 4:33answered in Genesis 1 to 11, which is why we're taking God's people back to the beginning.
- 4:37Amen.
- 4:38We've got Ken Ham coming up in a few weeks here on an episode of World View Matters.
- 4:42Well, tell him high for me.
- 4:44I will.
- 4:45I will.
- 4:47And when the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?
- 4:51That's a Psalm or proverb.
- 4:52I think it's a Psalm proverb.
- 4:55Yes.
- 4:56When the foundations, so because he talks you guys, I'll talk about foundations.
- 5:01We talk about the biblical world view here.
- 5:03If we don't have a foundation and then build on that and understand how to defend the
- 5:08faith and talk about scripture, okay.
- 5:10So anything else before we move back to the United States, anything else from Australia?
- 5:16Well, I thought it was also interesting that they're wrestling quite a bit with home
- 5:21education.
- 5:22So I talked quite a bit about homeschooling.
- 5:25I talked quite a bit about the structure of the family as God designed it.
- 5:30And as it turns out, God's design was the best one.
- 5:33And that feminism has stolen from women.
- 5:37This beautiful opportunity that God gives us to shepherd and care for children.
- 5:42This is God's design.
- 5:43And so we talked about that quite a bit.
- 5:46Think about the propaganda, David, that it is taken in the world coming from the enemy
- 5:50because it's his propaganda that would convince generations of women to murder their own
- 5:57babies.
- 5:59We were never created to do that.
- 6:01And of course, we live in a fallen world because of sin.
- 6:04But it was an interesting, we were having really interesting discussions about the role of
- 6:09women in the culture and how God sees us.
- 6:13And I think it's really important that we have those conversations.
- 6:15Because again, femininity is a gift from God, feminism, on the other hand, is a lie
- 6:20from the enemy.
- 6:21Amen.
- 6:22Nice transition, something I wanted to talk to you about.
- 6:26Speaking of God's design, and you know where I'm going with this, I do want to talk about
- 6:30the controversy of the U.S. men's Olympic hockey team being proud of their country.
- 6:37But let's talk about Alissa Liu.
- 6:40This story to me has flown under the radar.
- 6:45I didn't hear about this until toward the end of the Olympics and I had to look it up.
- 6:49Apparently, this Olympian, someone proudly said, shows us the power of designer babies.
- 6:57In other words, her father, his name is Arthur, used a surrogate, I believe, with her and
- 7:05her siblings.
- 7:07So there's slate, which I do not recommend that website, but they're proudly saying,
- 7:11Alissa Liu's dad becomes a single father via surrogacy.
- 7:15How common is that?
- 7:17So Heidi, this is some, we talked before we got on the podcast.
- 7:20This is some of the rotten fruit of a burger fell in 2015, removing the necessity of a father
- 7:26and mother and marriage, redefining marriage, whatever you'd like to share about this, your
- 7:31thoughts.
- 7:32Yeah, I'm really glad you're highlighting this and actually in the green room, we were
- 7:36talking about this.
- 7:37I didn't know that that was her history and it's interesting because the conversation
- 7:43around IVF is becoming very heated here in the United States.
- 7:47I have become part of a movement that my friend Katie Faust started called the Greater
- 7:50Than Campaign and the whole point of Greater Than is to overturn Obergothel because of
- 7:56the damage that it is doing to children.
- 7:58Children have not only a right to life, which we know comes from God, but it is even enshrined
- 8:03in our constitution here in the United States that we have been given the right to life.
- 8:09And we also have children have a right, a natural God-given right to their mother and
- 8:14their father and IVF and surrogacy really strips them of that natural right to life.
- 8:21It's interesting to note too for IVF and those people who are not familiar with IVF, basically
- 8:26it just means that these babies are being created in laboratories.
- 8:31So they extract a sperm from a donor and an egg from a donor and sometimes even a womb
- 8:36from a donor via surrogacy so you could have completely unrelated all third parties.
- 8:42It usually takes a husband and a wife to create a baby and now we're talking about three
- 8:47unique individuals coming together and money is changing hands to create these babies.
- 8:52And most of the time when a surrogate is used or even IVF, they create a minimum of five
- 8:59embryos and sometimes as many as 35 embryos because the failure rate is so high.
- 9:05The vast majority of these embryos don't survive, 97% of the babies that we create through IVF
- 9:15and surrogacy do not survive the process. They don't survive the genetic testing.
- 9:21We highly encourage in this country and around the world sex selection and so will abort
- 9:26the embryos that survive based on whether or not they're male or female and what we're doing
- 9:30is that we are commodifying children. This is the dirty underbelly of the IVF industry.
- 9:37So let me just read part of what we just showed you. There are people, there's a movement
- 9:42that's proud of this now and we were talking earlier when man becomes God. This is one of the
- 9:47consequences. I'm quoting them. This is a brilliant idea designer babies that almost any woman
- 9:54and wealthy man can emulate. Instead of settling for less than remarkable partners,
- 9:59select a donor with the very best genes and have remarkable children. Heidi, what could go wrong?
- 10:06Well, first of all, can we just say, yeah, don't get remarkable children from genes.
- 10:11Yeah, knucklehead. You get it from training in righteousness. We get it from loving our children.
- 10:17Your children are not going to come to you with remarkable genes and then all of a sudden become
- 10:22remarkable people. And this is the same as true of this amazing figure skater. She didn't win
- 10:27because she had remarkable genes. She won because of discipline. She won because of hard work.
- 10:32She won because she found something she loved to do and she pursued it with all her heart,
- 10:36soul, mind and strength. And so the idea that we can give parents a designer baby and that the
- 10:42genes are going to determine the outcome is ludicrous on its face. I can think of lots of people
- 10:47who came from very poor backgrounds and maybe you could go, well, that genetic pool wasn't that
- 10:52great. And they turned around to do amazing things with their lives. It has very little to do
- 10:57with genetics. What these people would do also, it's important to note is if they found a faulty
- 11:03gene or it was faulty genetics, they'll just kill the baby before it ever has a chance to take a
- 11:07breath outside of its mother's womb. This whole idea of commodifying children is evil on its
- 11:13face and God's people need to start speaking out against it. Yes. And what are these others in
- 11:17this movement on the other side of this world view doing? They're calling evil good. That's right.
- 11:23We're going to talk about the state of the union in a minute because there's so much to get
- 11:26to with Heidi. But I want to stand the Olympics for a moment and talk about the men's hockey team.
- 11:31I was so proud of these blue collar men that were proud not only to represent America,
- 11:36there it is. We're going to watch the very last goal in overtime where we beat Canada.
- 11:42Come on. Yes. Freedom won over socialism right here. That's right. Pass it over.
- 11:48Yeah. All right. There it is. Yeah. Jack Hughes got the gold or the winning goal right there
- 11:54and over time in the place went nuts. They were invited to the White House. They probably
- 11:58accepted because why? Because they were proud of their country. They were thankful to represent
- 12:02America. Charlie Kirk once said, when you go to the Olympics to be an ambassador for United
- 12:09States, I look at the Olympics. I'm paraphrasing Charlie Kirk. He said, I look at the Olympics as
- 12:16nonviolent geopolitical warfare on the biggest stage, biggest stage in the world, the Olympics.
- 12:24And I want to quote Jack Hughes. He's the one that scored the game winner there that we just saw
- 12:28that hopefully, hopefully you saw it live. I saw about a hundred replays. I can't stop
- 12:32I'll watch you in just such a great moment for America, both the men's and the women's teams.
- 12:36But Jack Hughes said post game his first interview, this is all about our country right now.
- 12:43I love the USA. I love my teammates. The USA hockey brotherhood is so strong and I'm so proud to be
- 12:51an American tonight. That's right after he won teeth knocked out bleeding sweating hair in his face
- 12:58and he said, there you go. Bring up bring up that picture. Yeah. I love this. He's a lucky cowboy.
- 13:05Yeah. He said in another interview, I'm lucky to be from the best country in the world. We have great
- 13:10dentists there too. Of course, he said that when he was in Italy. But but so now let's go on to
- 13:18the next part of the story. They come home, they get invited to the state of the union because
- 13:22Cash Patel was a hockey player. He's in the men's locker room in Italy, celebrating with them.
- 13:29And he calls Trump. Trump congratulates them, invites them to the White House. And then we got this
- 13:35picture of Caroline Levitt with some of the guys, five of the guys, their USA USA USA USA and
- 13:43one of them's wearing a mega hat. So I'm proud of these guys. Who knows a lot of the details
- 13:54here, but they went to the White House. They went to the state of the union, some of them had to fly
- 13:59back. But these guys have taken a lot of heat from the leftists. I can't think of more of a
- 14:05blue collar sport. The NBA, you know, there are, I don't know how many of them would be proud
- 14:12to represent America. Maybe I'm wrong to call the NBA out, but your thoughts on this controversy.
- 14:18It happens. I think every time there's an Olympics, I think it happens.
- 14:22Well, it didn't used to happen in the 80s. I mean, I remember watching the Olympics when I was
- 14:28in high school. And everyone, the Olympics united us. We were united around it. Let's go. Let's
- 14:35win. Right. And now what do we have? Because of the radical left. We, but we kneel for the national
- 14:40anthem. I mean, this is, this is new. It's relatively new because up until about five minutes ago,
- 14:45we all loved our country. And the radical left in this country hates the country. And anyone who
- 14:52loves the country, they despise. And if you love your president, they despise you up until about
- 14:58five minutes ago. We may not have all loved Barack Obama, but we were sure rooting for the
- 15:02Olympians to bring home the gold. Right. And so this is new. And we see it reflected in the radical
- 15:08left in this country, the Marxist on the socialist people who fall in line with Zoran Mandani over
- 15:14there in New York City, which he's trashing all the heck, by the way, amazing. That's amazing.
- 15:19They touched the stove. And now they're going to get burned. This is what happens when we
- 15:24forsake the love of country in our, in our nation and in our schools. We don't teach our kids to
- 15:30love the country anymore. We'll teach them that they're living on stolen land that they should be
- 15:33embarrassed to be Americans. Heidi St. John is proud of this country. We live in the greatest
- 15:38country on the face of the earth. And if the Democrats have their way, they're going to burn it to
- 15:42the ground. And that's the truth. Starting the patriotism, patriotism should never be up for debate.
- 15:48If you live in the United States, you should love it or leave it. You don't like it, work to make
- 15:52it better. But don't stand there and kneel for the national anthem and despise our boys who come
- 15:58home with the gold. Shame on the Democrats. This is all, you can lay this 100% at the feet of the
- 16:04Democrat party. Yep. Yep. The left, because they want to change America. They don't have a
- 16:09biblical world view. They want a different country. There are more socialist on that side, but
- 16:13that's for a whole other podcast. Heidi, let's move on before run out of time. The president gave
- 16:17a state of the Union address. And of course, the men's hockey team showed up there and they
- 16:22congratulated them. But I want to get to a line that he said the response was telling. And you
- 16:28put this on your Facebook page at the time. This was a couple of weeks ago. President Trump said,
- 16:34if you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American
- 16:42government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. Every person in there should have
- 16:51stood up, but the left of the Democrats, the communists did not. That was something I hope more
- 16:57people pay attention to your thoughts. Well, it's 100% commercial gold because they're going to use
- 17:05it. The Republicans are going to use that in the midterm elections to remind the American people
- 17:10that in this country, the Democrats will prioritize the wants and desires of illegal aliens,
- 17:17illegal immigrants in the United States over the needs of the American people. And so Trump
- 17:22is wicked smart. He knew these people are crazy enough to not stand up, which is why he asked
- 17:26the question in the first place. And then they just, they're just shown to be who they absolutely
- 17:30are. People who hate the country who believe we're living on stolen land, who would rather see
- 17:36the border invasion of Joe Biden than the secure borders of the Trump administration.
- 17:41And it's a reflection of where this country is headed. We are more divided than we have ever been.
- 17:46And I think you can, you can dial this all the way back to Barack Obama. I remember Michelle
- 17:51Obama saying she was embarrassed to be an American. Well, you know what? I'm embarrassed that
- 17:54Michelle Obama ever got anywhere near the White House because they have done more to divide this
- 17:58country than any president in the history of our country. And we are still paying for it today
- 18:04with a modern Democrat party. And Trump exposed them for the anti-American cowards that they are
- 18:10good for him. I'm glad he did it. Yeah, it was really telling. I mean, even the woman
- 18:16Irina Zarutska's mother was there whose daughter was murdered on the subway by the
- 18:23felon, the career criminal. And we all saw it. They didn't stand. The left, the Democrats
- 18:29did not stand for her. And there was another case where they didn't stand. You said this a
- 18:35while back. I think the last time, maybe a couple of podcasts ago, you said we are not the same.
- 18:40Yeah. Different, different world views, different gods. And so Heidi, with that in mind,
- 18:46there's some mental health issues. We mentioned Obergefell. There's a lot of rotten fruit that has come
- 18:51from that part of that is the T-LGBT. The transgender movement, Jeff, bring up this graph where it
- 18:59shows that transgender individuals commit disproportionate shares of mass, public, and active
- 19:06shooting attacks. And this is according to the crime prevention research center, the CPRC,
- 19:12look at that. This is data from 2018 to 2024. I mean, people are not seeing this in the media.
- 19:22They're not seeing this in education or academia. They're not, where do they get this information
- 19:28unless they're following certain conservative outlets? We need to be talking about this. This is not
- 19:33going to go away. Is it? No, it's not going to go away because we won't address it. You know,
- 19:39we want to pretend that there is such a thing as a transgender individual. Guess what?
- 19:43Newsflash, we are created in the image of God, male and female, full stop, full stop. There is no
- 19:51such thing as a transgender person. And until we stop using this ridiculous language,
- 19:56until we stop talking about this as if it is something that is normal and should be acceptable
- 20:01behavior in American society, we're going to continue to have these problems. We've normalized
- 20:06mental illness. And in fact, we not only have we normalized it, we've given it a platform.
- 20:10We have a Congress person right now, a man in Congress who masks or masquerades around as a woman.
- 20:17We have got to stop normalizing this. And I mean, this is what you see happening in sports.
- 20:22Gavin Newsom, who is a coward on almost every front, is now recognizing that the left has gone too far
- 20:29with this issue. And even Gavin Newsom said in an interview that I heard a couple of days ago,
- 20:34he said, you know what? We should probably get back to more normal policies. You think,
- 20:39you think men are not women, women are not men. And the the answer to someone who thinks they're
- 20:45born in the wrong body is not to give them mutilating surgeries and cross sex hormones.
- 20:50The answer is to love them and to remind them that they were made in the image of God and to
- 20:54help them see themselves exactly how God already made them and remind them that they're beautiful
- 21:00just the way they are. That's how you heal the human heart and the human mind, not by mutilating
- 21:05surgeries and cross sex hormones. Amen. If we love our neighbors, we will tell them the truth.
- 21:11The truth. No matter how popular or unpopular it is, no matter what kind of reaction we might get.
- 21:16But Heidi, there was also an image or a story I saw comparing the young woman that was there that was,
- 21:23I guess, the teachers tried to transition her. He was at the State of the Union address when
- 21:28Trump was speaking to her without their parents knowing, without her parents knowing. And then
- 21:34contrast that with that Democrat representative, the man that was over there sitting over there and
- 21:40who would not clap because this woman, this young woman went through so much. So really,
- 21:45briefly, we've only got about five minutes left. But I wanted to touch on the media. I'm thankful
- 21:50that less and less people trust the media anymore. There's the legacy media collapse.
- 21:58According to Pew, six percent have a great deal of confidence that the journalists,
- 22:05or yeah, that they act in the public's best interest, six percent, 57% of Americans have little
- 22:13or no confidence that journalists have the American people's interest in mind. And we could go
- 22:18on gallup. But let's compare one more thing and I'll let you talk about this. 70% in 1972
- 22:25trusted the media and that's down to 28% today. To me, it should be lower, but I'm glad it's
- 22:31going in that direction because we know the media certainly does not represent us. What do you say?
- 22:37Yeah, it should be zero. The percentage should be zero. People who trust the media,
- 22:42we learn this in COVID, we've watched now. And this is important because the media is not
- 22:48neutral. I'm not neutral. I'm going to sit here and talk to you about the world as I see it through
- 22:53the lens of God's word. And Jesus said to you, they're for me or against me. So if someone is not
- 22:59for God, then by definition, he is then against God. It shouldn't surprise us that we've been lied to
- 23:05and propagandized by the media now for generations in this country. And I thank God that they finally
- 23:11been unmasked for the liars and propagandists that they are. And the only answer to a bold lie.
- 23:18And I've said this many times on your show, I believe David, the only answer to a bold lie is
- 23:22bold truth. And Christians need to be more bold in their defense of the truth. That's why we're so
- 23:28bold in our defense of marriage as God designed it. That's why we're so bold in saying that there's
- 23:33only two genders male and female. We will not tolerate men in our women's locker rooms and boys
- 23:38and girls sports. It's a ridiculous notion. And we need to tell the truth because we've learned for
- 23:43a fact that the media is not going to do it. And we saw, you know, you've seen I'm sure
- 23:48Operation Mockingbird where you can see that they're all reading from the same script. Who's writing
- 23:53the script? Oh, I know the modern propaganda is the Marxist and the leftists who've controlled
- 23:58our media in this country for generations enough is enough. I'm glad to see shows like yours
- 24:04getting so much traction and messages like yours getting out there into the media space that
- 24:10used to be predominantly owned by the left in this country. It's high time. I welcome it.
- 24:15So along those lines, this is very interesting. With the distrust of the media,
- 24:21there's a lot of sources on social media. And there's a lot of other places people get
- 24:26information, but Christians need to be so darn discerning in this day and age. And then we've
- 24:33bring AI into the mix. So what do you think about that, Heidi? Because we can even though we don't
- 24:38go to certain outlets or the media, we don't trust them anymore, we might still get
- 24:43inaccurate information somewhere else. Just your thoughts on discernment for a manager too.
- 24:47Well, I think it goes back to what we were talking about at the at the top of the show today,
- 24:51about the so-called Christian curriculum in these schools that we're teaching our children.
- 24:57Spurgeon noted that we had a discernment program a long problem a long time ago. He said that
- 25:03discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It's knowing the difference
- 25:06between right and almost right. This is the difference between changing your avatar on your
- 25:12social media in the front being confronted with Black Lives Matter. We didn't do our homework,
- 25:16but we wanted to be seen as sympathetic. And so we changed our avatars to a Marxist
- 25:23movement who didn't care at all about Black Lives. They didn't care about the Black unborn.
- 25:26They don't care about Black police officers. They don't care about the Black conservatives.
- 25:30They shouldn't even be saying Black Lives Matter because they never meant it. They were pushing
- 25:34a political agenda. We've got to do a better job of finding out where the roots of these
- 25:39movements are coming from, asking the Lord to show us. And God will show us the book of James
- 25:44tells us that if we lack wisdom, we can ask it from God and He'll give it to us, not sparingly,
- 25:50but generously without holding back. And God's people need to ask for wisdom now more than they've
- 25:55ever done it. Good point. We do need to ask for wisdom. He does promise to give it. So praise God
- 26:01for you, Heidi, if that reminder is very important. So we've got about a minute and a half.
- 26:06Just any closing thoughts on either you're getting back from Australia, what you're doing now,
- 26:10what you have coming up, what would you like to share? Well, I am going to be all over the country
- 26:16this year speaking. And so I'd love for people to come out and say hello. My whole thing,
- 26:23and this is why I do my podcast, I want to see Christians get off the bench and onto the battlefield.
- 26:28I want to see them engage at the intersection of faith and culture. We're not here for no reason.
- 26:33We could have been here a hundred years ago or a hundred years from now, but God in his mercy
- 26:37has said, this is our time. It's your life. Everybody show up for it. God would have you show up.
- 26:43He would have you speak truth wherever he gives you opportunity to do so. And we need to do it.
- 26:48We need to be standing in defense of God's design for family and standing up for our country.
- 26:54I love to see Christians running for office. I think we should be having political conversations.
- 26:59David, it's one of the reasons I love your show so much. You're encouraging people to get off the
- 27:03bench and onto the battlefield. And boy, that's where God's people need to be. Yes. And it is a
- 27:08battlefield. It is a battleship, not a cruise ship. Right? Oh my goodness. We've been sold comfort
- 27:16and leisure. No, we need to read the time. We need to have a sense of urgency. Who knows how much
- 27:22time we have left. But Heidi, thank you so much for all you do. God bless you, sister. Lord
- 27:26willing, we'll do it again. David, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. Friends, share this one too.
- 27:32God bless you. And as always, keep speaking the truth about things that matters. See you next time.