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Jags Drive Time: Tuesday, December 11 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Jeff Wars Did you don't Jack Jack Morris? Did you
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Speaker 1: Jack Warres? Drive Time? Ryan Sex text? John says it
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Speaker 1: actually Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning, and
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Speaker 1: welcome to Jack's Drive Time Tuesday, as the Jaguars get
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Speaker 1: back to a day off a normal week. He's laughing
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Speaker 1: because I coughed right at the beginning of the show.
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Speaker 1: What did I say wrong? I wish we had a
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Speaker 1: confidence came on you at all times show, because then
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Speaker 1: people could see your reflections. See you know what you're thinking? Um,
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Speaker 1: what I'm thinking is is that after the short week,
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Speaker 1: Tuesday is once again the off day. That doesn't mean
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Speaker 1: we're off. We're here. Um, really, as long as we
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Speaker 1: want to be today it's an early day, You're probably
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Speaker 1: not an hour show, is what you're saying. We don't
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Speaker 1: know Jeff log going to be along and if he
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Speaker 1: has a lot to say then then it could be
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Speaker 1: a little bit longer show. Um. What we know is
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Speaker 1: that there were three games left in this season and
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Speaker 1: already the talk and I'm sure you see it social media.
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Speaker 1: Um is next year, next year, next year, next absolutely, Um.
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Speaker 1: Before we get into all that stuff, you were with
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Speaker 1: a j boy a last night at a community event.
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Speaker 1: Where was it. It was that Walmart on Phillips Highway
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Speaker 1: with the Boys and Girls Club. He was incredibly He
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Speaker 1: did the same event last year and uh partnered with
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Speaker 1: Walmart and they provided gift cards to sixty kids. And
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Speaker 1: a J always seems to get his teammates out there.
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Speaker 1: There were eight teammates there including quin Quinin Meeks, Tyler Patman,
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Speaker 1: a few other guys, and Uh, he's just a really
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Speaker 1: impressive guy. He seems to really get it, and he
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Speaker 1: doesn't seem to want the limelight on him. Like it
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Speaker 1: was almost to the point where he didn't want Max
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Speaker 1: Knight following him around and documenting this. But of course
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Speaker 1: most people don't want Max following around with the camera,
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Speaker 1: of course. But the coolest thing was, and you'll see
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Speaker 1: this later on Jaguars dot Com in the story. So
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Speaker 1: he took the kids. He had a group of eight.
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Speaker 1: They used their gift cards, their hundred dollar gift cards.
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Speaker 1: They bought all the stuff and later in the night,
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Speaker 1: when the we're done finishing up, one of the boys said, Hey,
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Speaker 1: a J. I want to bike. And I didn't get
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Speaker 1: a bike. Hecus, you want to bike, and the little
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Speaker 1: boys like yeah, So he goes and takes this entire
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Speaker 1: group back to the bike section and when everything is
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Speaker 1: done and goes and buys the entire group bikes. It's
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Speaker 1: this little boy. You know. The reason I ask you
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Speaker 1: is because when last year these guys went out and
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Speaker 1: did these events, but they were distracted by the winning.
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Speaker 1: Right this year, this these events are in and of
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Speaker 1: themselves a distraction from a difficult time of year. And
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I asked him. I asked, you know,
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Speaker 1: with the losing going on, is this almost a pausitive distraction?
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Speaker 1: That absolutely. I've seen a lot of teammates that now
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Speaker 1: want to come and do this. And last year it
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Speaker 1: was a distraction because it was so football football football.
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Speaker 1: Now it's a positive distraction. You'd rather have the football
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Speaker 1: football football with this mixed and but you know, in
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Speaker 1: the in the reality that we have this year, that
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Speaker 1: is not going to happen. So good to see the guys.
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Speaker 1: You're getting out and engaged in the community. Um. Despite
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Speaker 1: all this going on. Well, obviously the kids needed right
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Speaker 1: boys and Girls club needs it, um, But this year
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Speaker 1: the players need it. They need some cheer from people
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Speaker 1: who don't say, hey, man, what's with four and nine?
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Speaker 1: What happened in Tennessee. They're not going to get that
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Speaker 1: I have a bike and they want to buy a
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Speaker 1: bike and have some positive limelight. But all right, boy,
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Speaker 1: I grew up in the Boys and Girls clips. That's
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Speaker 1: why he was saying that it was so important to
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Speaker 1: him to partner with them. And there's a number of
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Speaker 1: these events that are going on. I think the Lais
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Speaker 1: has one. The Bselli Foundation had won last Tuesday night.
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Speaker 1: So not a gift giving. The workings in the community
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Speaker 1: never stops. Um alright, big things, all right, Big thing
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Speaker 1: one is two thousand eighteen. It has been that kind
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Speaker 1: of season and we talked about it. When it's bad,
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Speaker 1: it stays bad, like with Leonard for Neck. Yesterday we
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Speaker 1: saw also the video that was released. We'll talk more
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Speaker 1: about that. But I asked Nikenqua yesterday in the locker room,
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Speaker 1: you know, is this a bad season and are you
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Speaker 1: going to quit? And he said absolutely not the definitely
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Speaker 1: instead that mentality of not quittin. I'm not a quitter.
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Speaker 1: It has never been in my blood to be a quitter.
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Speaker 1: And I hope that's in everybody's mind in this locker room.
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Speaker 1: And that's what I feel that it is. And uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, I just gotta try to finish a strong
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Speaker 1: you know, Um this season you go back to training camp.
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Speaker 1: I had almost forgotten about this, and someone reminded me
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Speaker 1: of the fight between Unique and Dante Fault and the
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Speaker 1: reaction that Jalen Ramsey had. It was very public. It
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Speaker 1: made it into social media and throughout the national media. Um,
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Speaker 1: the argument with the press and the incident in London
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Speaker 1: and with Leonard, and then with Leonard yesterday that we
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Speaker 1: learned about. I mean, sometimes it just feels like when
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Speaker 1: you know, you pull the plug out, all the bathwater
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Speaker 1: goes down the drain. It just keeps going. There's nothing
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Speaker 1: that can stop it. And that's that's what it is
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Speaker 1: my perspective on that video. And you have it too,
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Speaker 1: because you're behind the bench a lot during game. UM, folks,
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Speaker 1: you know me, no, you know, I was insulated from
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Speaker 1: that twenty years upstairs. Um, being on the sidelines the
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Speaker 1: last couple of years. I'm stunted at the stuff that
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Speaker 1: I here yelled in the direction of the players. Stunned. Now,
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Speaker 1: in places where the club seats are right behind the
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Speaker 1: visiting bench, it's not as bad like here. Club seats
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Speaker 1: are right, you know between the thirty five people business
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Speaker 1: in in places like Kansas City and in Dallas, they're
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Speaker 1: up right there. There's like a alleged not alleged players
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Speaker 1: when we be able to hear them right. And so
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Speaker 1: you don't get it because the people who spend the
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Speaker 1: big money on the club seats are generally not the
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Speaker 1: people that are yelling these things. Although that's not that's
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Speaker 1: not completely a blanket statement, but it places like Buffalo
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Speaker 1: um and Tennessee, an Indie, you hear some things. I can,
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Speaker 1: just there are times where I have to fight it
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Speaker 1: because there's times when I just want to turn and say, really,
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Speaker 1: does your mother know that you talk like that? Just
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Speaker 1: stand up for some of these guys. Um, that's not
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Speaker 1: too excused, by the way, what Leonard did. Just block
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Speaker 1: out the noise, right, count in your money in your mind,
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Speaker 1: count your money right, Okay, my check on Tuesday is
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Speaker 1: how much? But you do get players that will fire back.
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Speaker 1: Malik did it in India a couple of years ago. Um,
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Speaker 1: it happens, but I didn't think it was that big
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Speaker 1: of a deal. I didn't either, And it was funny.
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Speaker 1: It was a few weeks ago in Indian Logan Cook
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Speaker 1: was telling me because they always because Logan Cook's right
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Speaker 1: there warming pottery, they completely verbally abuse him. And he
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Speaker 1: told me. I was like, what's it like. He goes, well, actually,
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Speaker 1: I go and try to make friends with them before
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Speaker 1: the game. Send They're nice to me the entire game
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Speaker 1: if I'm friends with them. So he takes time out
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Speaker 1: of his warm up to go meet the people that
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Speaker 1: that are right there warming up so they don't verbally
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Speaker 1: abuse him. So you know, Leonard loses his cool and
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Speaker 1: he walks up if people seeing the video, walks up
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Speaker 1: towards the wall and starts to have a conversation and
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Speaker 1: his teammates and security getting back to the bench. But
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Speaker 1: then he still focused and paying attention on what the
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Speaker 1: guy in the stands is saying. Well that ending of
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Speaker 1: himself as a problem focused on the game, I forget
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Speaker 1: at the rest of the game, you know, But that's
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Speaker 1: the kind of season. This is now one of the things,
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Speaker 1: and this isn't defensive him. There was a heckler in Buffalo,
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Speaker 1: and this of course doesn't show up on TMZ because
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Speaker 1: it's not as entertaining, But there's a Heckler in Buffalo,
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Speaker 1: who's giving it to him and he's given it back.
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Speaker 1: I mean, just back and forth stuff, you know, tell
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Speaker 1: him to stop talking. Um. But he notices that the
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Speaker 1: kid next to him is wearing a Jaguars jersey. So
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Speaker 1: after he scores a touchdown, he takes the ball and
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Speaker 1: gives it to the guy to give you the kid
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Speaker 1: who turns to be his kid up being the kids.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, so that doesn't that doesn't make it on.
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Speaker 1: That's not as entertaining. But the fact of the matter,
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Speaker 1: well yeah, I mean, so, yeah, he had a bad moment.
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Speaker 1: You would too, By the way, if some of the
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Speaker 1: things that are yelled at players were yelled at you,
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Speaker 1: you would wonder why streak when you're losing on top
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Speaker 1: of everything? If this team was winning, I mean, I'm
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Speaker 1: sure if net would still have fun with it, but
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Speaker 1: not to the sixth cent. Here's the other thing. The
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Speaker 1: video obviously goes viral and so I forget what someone
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Speaker 1: posted it TMZ Yeah, and then it it makes it
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Speaker 1: too pro football rumors, and then it becomes pro football talk,
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Speaker 1: and then it becomes ESPN, and before you know it,
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Speaker 1: it's spirals and it's got a life of its own,
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Speaker 1: and it just it wasn't that big of a deal.
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Speaker 1: I was there. It just really was. It was not
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Speaker 1: although what people say in the stands alcohol induced or not.
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Speaker 1: Um it has me. You have to bite my time
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Speaker 1: and walk away. It's not right. But Lord knows it
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Speaker 1: will change. No, no, no, we're not changing because those
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Speaker 1: seats aren't getting less expensive. You're gonna let people yell
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Speaker 1: what they want for the most part. For the most part,
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Speaker 1: it's now on the players attempt to ignore it. Just
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Speaker 1: you just have to turn away. And what do they say,
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Speaker 1: be a pro be, a pro focus on the game. Okay,
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Speaker 1: thing to big thing too, is now, what should this
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Speaker 1: team be looking for. We know it's a quarterback. We
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Speaker 1: know if it's offensive weapons with the tight end and
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Speaker 1: the wide receivers. Defensively offensive line of course. But Claire's
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Speaker 1: Campbell said, and so we start looking at two thousand
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Speaker 1: nineteen in the draft. Let's focus on these next three
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Speaker 1: weeks because this is the last time that this team
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Speaker 1: is going to play together. That's a very real, very
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Speaker 1: real realization. Uh it's kind of tough knowing that. Uh,
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's guarantee. Teams are gonna change every year,
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Speaker 1: you know, but this group, you know, we had a
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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of love for each other, respect
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Speaker 1: for one another, and you kind of know and the
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Speaker 1: years like this, there's a lot more change that happens,
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of scary, you know, knowing that that
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Speaker 1: potential is there, you know. So I just, you know,
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Speaker 1: I try to encourage the guys to, you know, embrace
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Speaker 1: these men with these moments because they well, never had
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Speaker 1: this team again, you know, and whatever team we do
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Speaker 1: have going forward, you know, I was gonna have to
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to be better than we board
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Speaker 1: this year. But at the end of the day, and
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Speaker 1: I'll just make the best out of this because we
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Speaker 1: never had this this team over again. You know. It's
9:41
Speaker 1: always interesting when I hear someone ask a player about
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Speaker 1: the draft. They don't care, nor do you want to
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Speaker 1: think they do not pay attention to it. They barely
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Speaker 1: can tell you what's going on um in April, you know,
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Speaker 1: when football people are kind of clued into it. I
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Speaker 1: remember a couple of years ago, we were in Hassie
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Speaker 1: for a pro day and Dalvin Cook was working out well.
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Speaker 1: Jalen was lobbying openly then for his friend Dalvin Cook,
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Speaker 1: who ended up going to Minnesota. UM. And I remember thinking,
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Speaker 1: that's the first time I've ever heard a player we're
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Speaker 1: doing this a long time, heard a player lobby for
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Speaker 1: another player, even a guy that he played college football with. UM.
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Speaker 1: I can't even remember if Telvin Smith said anything about
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey and and they played together in college. It's
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Speaker 1: just it's rare, so they're not focused on it. They
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Speaker 1: have to focus on the next three games because it's
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Speaker 1: the only thing they're judged on. UM. The reason that
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Speaker 1: I brought this topic into the conversation was because yesterday
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Speaker 1: I heard the guys on the radio that follow us
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Speaker 1: talking about quarterback. Who do you want to be the
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback? Now? Well, wow, I'm amazed that we're having
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Speaker 1: their conversation. UH. And the quarterback thing is it's obvious.
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Speaker 1: I mean that that's what this team desperately lacks. It
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Speaker 1: would fix a lot of things. UM. But you know,
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Speaker 1: when you look at you could spend almost the entire
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Speaker 1: draft next year and maybe a lot of whatever free
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Speaker 1: agent dollars you have to spend on the offensive side
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Speaker 1: of the ball. If you've watched I was watching last night,
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Speaker 1: I was watching Sunday, you watch some of these offenses
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Speaker 1: that just make everything look easy, and almost everything this
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Speaker 1: team does on offense looks hard, even running the ball,
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Speaker 1: it looks hard, and that's what you're supposed to do well.
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Speaker 1: That's what they're supposed to do well. And I get
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Speaker 1: it they stacked the line of scrimmage because they're not
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Speaker 1: scared of the passing game. But everything this team does
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Speaker 1: in the off season could be tailored towards offense everything,
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Speaker 1: And I think that's very fair to say, especially if
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Speaker 1: you're going to attempt to try to keep some of
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Speaker 1: this defense together. If you can have an offense that
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Speaker 1: compliments this defense, you're right back in it well, and
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Speaker 1: you can fix it, and you can fix it fast.
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Speaker 1: You need the right coach calling, and they'll obviously have
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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, and you need the right coach
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Speaker 1: the right quarterback in the backfield. If you get those
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Speaker 1: two things fixed, you be in good shape. But that's coming.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the speculation already started. Just don't expect to
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Speaker 1: hear from players what they want or what they think yet. No,
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Speaker 1: and they mean they shouldn't. They should be focusing on
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Speaker 1: the next three games. The only example I can think
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Speaker 1: of is when Leonard for Nett the day of the
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Speaker 1: draft release the news on DJ Chark minutes before. That's
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Speaker 1: the only thing recently that I could think where a
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Speaker 1: player was involved in the draft process. And again it
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Speaker 1: was a case of a guy who he played with
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Speaker 1: in college. And right, I mean, who would Calais Campbell,
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Speaker 1: because you talk to him, who would he be lobbying for?
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Speaker 1: How much college football do you think Calais Campbell gets
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Speaker 1: any of these guys? It's impossible. And I'm sure he
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Speaker 1: watches the Keynes, but to the point where he knows
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Speaker 1: these players and can lobby for them, But I don't
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Speaker 1: think many. But only if they're on in a certain window. Right,
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Speaker 1: because the Jags are traveling, He's not, you know, till
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Speaker 1: four o'clock, so they're playing between four and seven before
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Speaker 1: meetings started. I mean, maybe he's catching a little of
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Speaker 1: the game. But these guys, they want their teams to win,
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Speaker 1: but they don't follow it, like unless they're off. Right,
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Speaker 1: get the guys from Florida and Georgia. They're gonna come
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Speaker 1: in here and watch the game if they're off, but
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Speaker 1: for the most part, they don't follow it. Like old
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Speaker 1: Alma Mater. Here we go they they're focused on what
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Speaker 1: they do. I don't know. I don't turn on football
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Speaker 1: at home very often because they do it all day,
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Speaker 1: same thing for them, and they do it to a
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Speaker 1: much greater degree. They're living it. And Calais is also
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Speaker 1: so he's been in the league so long, he's been
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Speaker 1: so removed from that that right he doesn't even know
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Speaker 1: these kinds. I promise you those are the only two
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Speaker 1: instances I know of of players lobbying for players in
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Speaker 1: the draft bringing him in. Maybe it changes. Maybe that's
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Speaker 1: what social media has done. Maybe alright, big thing three
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Speaker 1: is who do you build this team around in the future.
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Speaker 1: Who do you pay We were talking about it yesterday,
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Speaker 1: Brian defensively and offensively, you're looking at Jalen Ramsey here,
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Speaker 1: unique and gock Way, possibly Miles Jack Offensively. It was
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Speaker 1: tough to find some guys. But when you really think
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Speaker 1: about it, Cam Robinson before he got hurt, was really
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Speaker 1: solidifying the offensive line. D D. Westbrook probably the only
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Speaker 1: receiver that's really made huge plays the season that you
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Speaker 1: feel like you have to keep. And then d J. Chark,
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Speaker 1: of course, the rookie you just named him. Well, look
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Speaker 1: on offense, and we've talked about this all season long.
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Speaker 1: UM going into the locker room and finding players on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the football to talk to, it's rare.
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Speaker 1: And when you match that up with the production on
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Speaker 1: the field, you realize that there's no one to talk to.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, you can talk to the quarterback. You're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk to Leonard for Nette, because he's the star
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Speaker 1: running back. UM dd has had a couple of games
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Speaker 1: where you want to talk to him. D Moncreas made
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Speaker 1: a couple of plays where you want to talk to him.
14:33
Speaker 1: You haven't had a tight end. None of the offensive
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Speaker 1: lineman have played well this year. They've either been injured
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Speaker 1: or they haven't played well. Uh. And they're not great
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Speaker 1: talkers anyway, but there's just there's no one to go
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Speaker 1: get any perspective on what's going on in the offense. Well,
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Speaker 1: in a league that's built on offense, that's a problem.
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Speaker 1: Right quarterback, wide received, running back, tight end, offensive you
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Speaker 1: have to be able to talk to multiple guys like that.
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Speaker 1: Think about on defense who you can go talk to
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Speaker 1: on any given day in the lot Calais Campbell, Marcel,
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Speaker 1: Darius Unique and Gonqway Malik Jackson. I could just stop
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Speaker 1: right there, but mixing Avery Jones, Miles Jack Telvin Smith,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey, A J boy A Um Ronnie Harrison. Now
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Speaker 1: though the whole starting lineup you can go talk to
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Speaker 1: and get great perspective, but you can't get anything on
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Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. Nothing ding ding ding
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Speaker 1: ding ding ding ding. Go get guys that we want
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Speaker 1: to talk to because it means they're playing. And the
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Speaker 1: few offensive guys credit like d J Chark, who's a
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Speaker 1: rookie but still always willing. Yeah, they don't have a
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Speaker 1: whole lot to say. They don't have a lot of credit.
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Speaker 1: And Chark hasn't played a lot this year. He's been
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Speaker 1: mostly a special teams performer. He's just kind of worked
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Speaker 1: his way in. So on the offensive side, guys to
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Speaker 1: build around, well maybe four NET. We'll see. He can't
15:48
Speaker 1: stay on the field right now, and his his performance
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Speaker 1: has been up and down. But we'll say for that
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Speaker 1: because he was the fourth pick in the draft. Cam Robinson, Um,
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Speaker 1: you've got Norwell under contract, lender under contract. Um, So
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Speaker 1: let's just say those those three guys on the offensive
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Speaker 1: line for NET, uh, DJ Chark, d Westbrook has a
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Speaker 1: role on this team, and I think he will continue
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Speaker 1: to have one. That's it. That's it. That's it. I
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Speaker 1: mean a s J is is here for just one
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Speaker 1: more year, but he hasn't been here all year. Moncrief
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Speaker 1: is on a one year deal. Yeah no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he's not one of those guys. Um, rookie free agents
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Speaker 1: rarely are. I mean you you recycle those guys. Um,
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Speaker 1: that's it. There's just not many. So it just it
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Speaker 1: fits more to the point of what we were talking
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Speaker 1: about that as you've got to have guys on that
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Speaker 1: side of the ball. You can spend almost your entire offseason,
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Speaker 1: your salary gaps everything on that on that side of
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Speaker 1: the ball, and they've got to get that done. So
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Speaker 1: there's kind of a look at the present future future
16:48
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19:22
Speaker 1: this week is something we briefly talked about before the
19:24
Speaker 1: Leonard Front situation we all saw on TMZ, and we're
19:28
Speaker 1: taking a different angle here and we're talking about how
19:30
Speaker 1: these guys are football players. We know that they're not
19:33
Speaker 1: heroes and we're they're human beings. And before we get
19:36
Speaker 1: into it, let's hear at Calais Campbell had to say
19:38
Speaker 1: about this yesterday because he said, this happens weekly. It's
19:41
Speaker 1: not filmed every single week, and that's why we don't
19:43
Speaker 1: talk about it. But it's a weekly thing. And it's
19:45
Speaker 1: sad that it's still happening in two I mean, I've
19:49
Speaker 1: seen it happened before, you know, and it's you know,
19:52
Speaker 1: it's sad, you know, when you have to deal with that,
19:54
Speaker 1: you know, in the midst of a game. But at
19:56
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, um, you know, I mean
20:00
Speaker 1: just you know, it sucks. Uh, you know, you just
20:03
Speaker 1: have to you know, be you know, just stay focused
20:06
Speaker 1: on on the game of hand and uh and I'll
20:08
Speaker 1: continue to try to push through. You know, you can't
20:10
Speaker 1: let uh. You know, words have power over you. You know,
20:13
Speaker 1: I fail personally. So it's an interesting angle here that
20:17
Speaker 1: we had to go to Klai's Campbell to hear about
20:20
Speaker 1: that situation because Leonard four Nett chose not comment on
20:23
Speaker 1: and he said it was because of his agent and
20:24
Speaker 1: he didn't want to comment on the situation. But I
20:26
Speaker 1: thought Pete Prisco made a good point yesterday. I happy
20:29
Speaker 1: are that he had the perfect opportunity to say his
20:32
Speaker 1: side of the story and it was clear some of
20:34
Speaker 1: the air, and didn't take it. And of course, you
20:36
Speaker 1: know the agent, I get it. But it was interesting
20:39
Speaker 1: that Calais Campbell spoke so highly of that situation and
20:42
Speaker 1: backed up for Net. But for Net should have been
20:44
Speaker 1: the guy to say, you know what, this is my
20:46
Speaker 1: side of it. I'm not so sure about the agent thing.
20:48
Speaker 1: You know, they ages tell players things all the time,
20:51
Speaker 1: and it's there and they ignore they ignore them all
20:55
Speaker 1: the time. Um. The teams, this team in particular, does
20:59
Speaker 1: a lot to help these guys with the media. I
21:02
Speaker 1: teach these guys. I do a class with the rookies
21:04
Speaker 1: every June on dealing with the media, and I always
21:08
Speaker 1: tell them to take advantage of the opportunity to tell
21:11
Speaker 1: the story. In other words, don't pay attention to the question.
21:14
Speaker 1: The answer is yours, clear the air. Um. He does
21:18
Speaker 1: not have a very good media presence. In fact, it's
21:20
Speaker 1: really not to me, it's awful. Um, he doesn't say
21:24
Speaker 1: a lot, doesn't want to say a lot, acts like
21:25
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to say a lot, and yet here's
21:28
Speaker 1: a video that he can stand and explain what's going on. Instead,
21:34
Speaker 1: he lets people see that video without hearing what he
21:37
Speaker 1: really had to say. They heard Doug say, well it
21:41
Speaker 1: was a racial slur. Uh. They hear Calais say it's
21:44
Speaker 1: tough to have to deal with that stuff. He should
21:46
Speaker 1: have something to say. When you're star performer, let alone
21:50
Speaker 1: one who has had something like that yelled at them,
21:53
Speaker 1: you need to step up and address the situation. He
21:56
Speaker 1: chose not to. He missed the chance. Um. I go
22:01
Speaker 1: back to what I said in the starting block of
22:03
Speaker 1: the show, and that is is that if you heard
22:05
Speaker 1: some of the things that were yelled out of the stands,
22:08
Speaker 1: your ears would curl. I mean, it's just it's it's offensive,
22:12
Speaker 1: it's revolting, and it's very very personal. I'm always amazed
22:17
Speaker 1: that some guy, you know, with the the liquid courage
22:20
Speaker 1: of a couple of beers in him, thinks that standing
22:23
Speaker 1: there and yelling over the wall makes him look tough, right, Um,
22:28
Speaker 1: the players, and then there are guys that turn and
22:29
Speaker 1: yelled the stance, hey shut up, you know, stop talking.
22:32
Speaker 1: Um walking around, going up to the bench, you know,
22:35
Speaker 1: behind the bench and up to the wall to say
22:37
Speaker 1: something that doesn't happen very often, but the words always,
22:43
Speaker 1: so try to remember that, yes, they are big, tough
22:47
Speaker 1: football players, but there are people too. And if it
22:50
Speaker 1: was you, or more importantly, if it was your child
22:53
Speaker 1: and people were yelling this at your kids, you would
22:56
Speaker 1: be up in the stands threatening to beat someone's bottom too.
23:00
Speaker 1: Do you think of like road rage and all those
23:02
Speaker 1: instances where you're definitely also back example, Yeah, great example,
23:07
Speaker 1: people lose their minds about someone cutting into closely and
23:11
Speaker 1: you know, but you still do it. Take a deep
23:14
Speaker 1: breath to take a really deep breath on this one,
23:16
Speaker 1: and remember the next time someone cuts you off in traffic,
23:20
Speaker 1: they might have a video camera going on their phone
23:23
Speaker 1: and they are a human too. Yeah, and one more thing.
23:26
Speaker 1: Nobody saw him hand the ball to the kid in Buffalo.
23:31
Speaker 1: Nobody after that guy was verbally torturing him the entire game.
23:36
Speaker 1: He did it. So all right, good point people to
23:40
Speaker 1: people to players or people too. Yeah. Okay, time four,
23:44
Speaker 1: take a deep breath. Tuesday our favorite. All right, let's
23:50
Speaker 1: go to our first one. This is replying to Walter
23:55
Speaker 1: Peyton Man of the Year nomination for Blake Borders Words
23:58
Speaker 1: Blake will nominate you for this as a part in
24:00
Speaker 1: gift because we unceremonially let you go after the season.
24:03
Speaker 1: Even though we let go to of your top receivers
24:05
Speaker 1: with Robertson and Hearns and the third league got hurt
24:08
Speaker 1: before the season started, your old line was devastated and
24:11
Speaker 1: for net out for half of the games. Now, I
24:13
Speaker 1: think this is a take a deep part Tuesday for
24:14
Speaker 1: the first sense, because Blake Bortles deserved that nomination. This
24:18
Speaker 1: is not the jag Boards saying we feel sorry for
24:20
Speaker 1: the man of the year. The nationwide Man of the
24:22
Speaker 1: Year totally earned that. He earned that. I mean, if
24:26
Speaker 1: you look in that locker room, he absolutely deserves that
24:27
Speaker 1: this year. This was not the Jaguars saying we feel sorry.
24:30
Speaker 1: If so, we're going to dominate you for this. I
24:32
Speaker 1: just saw that the family of the two police officers,
24:35
Speaker 1: one who was killed and one is in critical condition,
24:38
Speaker 1: that he is putting fifteen thousand dollars up and asking
24:41
Speaker 1: people he'll match up to fifteen thousands, so putting a
24:45
Speaker 1: lot of his own money on the table um. There
24:48
Speaker 1: are great nominees for the Man of the Year awarded. J. G.
24:51
Speaker 1: Watt won it last year for you know how you
24:54
Speaker 1: can't argue with that. The year he had forty million
24:57
Speaker 1: dollars right, Um, these are these are players that go way,
25:01
Speaker 1: way beyond what is expected. Um. And he absolutely deserved that,
25:07
Speaker 1: without a doubt. The other side of it of the tweet, true,
25:11
Speaker 1: I agree with you, absolutely true. Um. And when people
25:14
Speaker 1: you know change them out, put in Cody Kessler fired
25:17
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator. We heard fired the defensive coordinator. Fire rip,
25:20
Speaker 1: fire kill. Um, let me take a deep breath. I mean,
25:25
Speaker 1: look around, look at the roster. What did we say?
25:29
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter who the quarterback is not now, not
25:32
Speaker 1: with a backup receiver. No Mark Kiseley, no Cam Robinson,
25:36
Speaker 1: No Andrew Norwell who made million bucks a year. No
25:40
Speaker 1: Brandon Linder, who is also very highly paid, haven't had
25:43
Speaker 1: for an ad. No Austin Safarian Jenkins. O. Yeah, but
25:46
Speaker 1: Cody Kessler, he's gonna win there. Yeah, it's got a
25:49
Speaker 1: lot of it. She's gonna call better plays. Come on,
25:51
Speaker 1: look what's around? Yeah? Well, telling people to take a
25:55
Speaker 1: deep breath on that for a couple of weeks, what
25:57
Speaker 1: ha you got? All right, let's face the hair brushed
26:04
Speaker 1: helmets and mustard jerseys need to come back, either at
26:06
Speaker 1: a nostalgia for two thousand seventeen or as punishment. I
26:09
Speaker 1: put this in here because it made me laugh. But
26:12
Speaker 1: I didn't mind the airbrush helmets. The mustard jerseys were awful.
26:14
Speaker 1: In fact, I can't come back, none of us coming back.
26:18
Speaker 1: I turned to somebody to maybe Alex brooksly in the
26:20
Speaker 1: PR department late in the ball game. Uh Brooksy was
26:24
Speaker 1: there in two thousand sixteen when it was the final
26:27
Speaker 1: was thirty six twenty two, but it was twenty eight nothing.
26:29
Speaker 1: At the half Thursday night primetime game, Tennessee was kicking
26:33
Speaker 1: their butt, and I said, well, at least this time
26:36
Speaker 1: they're not wearing the baby uh food jerseys, those mustard
26:41
Speaker 1: jerseys that looked like h like baby food or what
26:44
Speaker 1: ends up. That's a good positive to spend on that
26:47
Speaker 1: you have to Uh yeah, no airbrush healmets coming back,
26:50
Speaker 1: None of that coming back. The nostalgia for is real. Uh. Sunday,
26:55
Speaker 1: I did watch football. The red Zone was on all
26:57
Speaker 1: day in the house as I was, you know, going
27:00
Speaker 1: around getting my to do list done, and there were
27:02
Speaker 1: so many compelling games I just couldn't stop. And all
27:06
Speaker 1: I could think of was the Jaguars were one of
27:11
Speaker 1: those teams that showed up in every category and irrelevant.
27:19
Speaker 1: Joan Gibson said, no one wanted to watch them after halftime,
27:22
Speaker 1: and it was true. My dad he told me, everybody,
27:27
Speaker 1: a deep breath. You got another one? Yes, one more?
27:31
Speaker 1: You know. I have to say, despite being a Titans fan,
27:33
Speaker 1: the Jaguars celebrating stopping Kearny from scoring his fifth touchdown
27:36
Speaker 1: the night like they won the Super Bowl after they
27:38
Speaker 1: were down twenty one and already gave up two forty
27:41
Speaker 1: yards to Henry maybe my favorite sports moment ever. Now.
27:45
Speaker 1: I wanted to put this one in here because yes,
27:47
Speaker 1: they shouldn't have celebrated, they should not have flexed on
27:49
Speaker 1: the defense and all of that, but that was still
27:52
Speaker 1: a big moment for that defense, and coach Brome pointed
27:54
Speaker 1: it out because it showed that they did not quit well.
27:57
Speaker 1: That laid in the ball game to stop them in
27:59
Speaker 1: a goal line stand remember two uh. And you had
28:03
Speaker 1: to be there to hear the crowd yelling Henry because
28:06
Speaker 1: they took Henry out and put Dion Lewis in, and
28:09
Speaker 1: so they were trying to jam it down the Jaguars throat.
28:13
Speaker 1: They were trying to to to be able to flex
28:16
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars if Henry got his fifth touchdown. So
28:20
Speaker 1: for the Jaguars come back and flex. It's bad form.
28:23
Speaker 1: But that's what the Titans were doing. That's what the
28:25
Speaker 1: fans and the stands were doing. Take a deep breath, pal,
28:28
Speaker 1: If that's one of your favorite moments, you haven't had many.
28:31
Speaker 1: I guess because the Titans got pounded last year in
28:33
Speaker 1: New England in the playoff game. Maybe that should be
28:37
Speaker 1: your favorite moment. It's one of mine. Yeah, take that.
28:42
Speaker 1: That's all you got. No more. Take a deep breath
28:44
Speaker 1: this late in the year for taking that's all you got.
28:46
Speaker 1: We've taken a few deep breaths, all right, we'll take
28:48
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28:50
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30:51
Speaker 1: a couple of selections that I chose. Um this says,
30:57
Speaker 1: there seems to be a lot of me first team
30:59
Speaker 1: seton can done this squad? Doug has let the inmates
31:02
Speaker 1: run the asylum unexpected. I agree, yeah, I agree, there
31:07
Speaker 1: there has and that's his personality and he's always been
31:10
Speaker 1: that way. And I think when he first came in, uh,
31:13
Speaker 1: we were all expecting to see a Tom Coughlin clone
31:17
Speaker 1: and and that's not who Doug Morone is. He asked
31:19
Speaker 1: these guys to be men last year. It worked, so
31:23
Speaker 1: he did the same thing this year. Right now, I'm
31:25
Speaker 1: not saying he totally hands off. He has his controls
31:28
Speaker 1: in the locker room, he has his expectations in his meetings,
31:31
Speaker 1: and he mixes things up and he's got some of that, um,
31:34
Speaker 1: but there hasn't been that iron fist approach and his
31:39
Speaker 1: team has led him down because last year they acted
31:42
Speaker 1: more professional. You didn't have the incident in London, you
31:45
Speaker 1: didn't have a lot of the the stuff, you know,
31:47
Speaker 1: Leonard running across the field. I'm not going to count
31:50
Speaker 1: the video stuff. But although there is a little bit
31:52
Speaker 1: of talking back to the crowd that maybe you don't
31:54
Speaker 1: want to see either. Um, I agree in the sense
31:57
Speaker 1: that it's unexpected. Yeah, because it's the same approach that
32:00
Speaker 1: he had last season and he I mean, he says
32:02
Speaker 1: that many times that players bought in last season, and
32:04
Speaker 1: obviously there's a miscommunication this season, and he holds an
32:08
Speaker 1: accountability to the players. It works last year and obviously
32:12
Speaker 1: is a gap in communication this year. And it's professional football.
32:15
Speaker 1: It's about the money. So there's always going to be
32:16
Speaker 1: a little of that me in it because guys are
32:21
Speaker 1: that's fair, undoubtedly worried about themselves and their money. Um,
32:25
Speaker 1: but you do there has been a little of it
32:26
Speaker 1: this year. And I'm not going to name names because
32:28
Speaker 1: I might not be entirely correct on this, but there's
32:30
Speaker 1: just a feeling around certain players that they're grousing. UM
32:35
Speaker 1: is more internal than money, their opportunities, the way they're perceived, whatever.
32:41
Speaker 1: There's been a little bit of that this year. Um,
32:43
Speaker 1: there's always gonna be some of it. It just it
32:45
Speaker 1: seems like maybe got out of hand in But yes,
32:48
Speaker 1: agree with the unexpected, that's for sure. I don't think
32:50
Speaker 1: that's the overriding problem. The writing problem is obvious offense, UM, injuries,
32:57
Speaker 1: lack of it. Uh, here's one and this and it fits.
33:01
Speaker 1: Winning is losing, and losing is winning the rest of
33:04
Speaker 1: this season. In other words, this is somebody who has said,
33:07
Speaker 1: I don't care whether they win another game. I want
33:09
Speaker 1: my draft position. Uh. The NFL website has the Jaguars seventh, right,
33:14
Speaker 1: because remember when you have teams with the same record,
33:18
Speaker 1: it is strength of schedule that's the tiebreaker, not head
33:20
Speaker 1: to head. So the Jaguars um are four and nine.
33:24
Speaker 1: There's three teams at three and ten and a couple
33:27
Speaker 1: at four and nine, and they're sitting at seven. So
33:30
Speaker 1: here's the deal. When you look at the teams that
33:32
Speaker 1: are in front of him, there really aren't any teams
33:34
Speaker 1: that are looking at quarterback. I think the thought in
33:36
Speaker 1: Oakland these days is that is that Derek Carr is
33:40
Speaker 1: coming along and he's a young Guy's got four years
33:43
Speaker 1: left on his contract, forty million guaranteed dollars. There's thirty
33:47
Speaker 1: six or thirty seven and dead money left on the
33:49
Speaker 1: salary cap. UM Jets don't need a quarterback. Niners don't
33:52
Speaker 1: need a quarterback, Cardinals don't need a quarterback. UM Bills
33:56
Speaker 1: don't need a quarterback. So okay, the Jaguars don't have
33:59
Speaker 1: to lose out in order to be in. The First
34:04
Speaker 1: of all, no one knows who's going to be in
34:05
Speaker 1: there as a quarterback anyway. It's not like it was
34:07
Speaker 1: the year that Jared Goff and Carson Wentz came out. UM.
34:10
Speaker 1: The number one quarterback most people think is a junior
34:13
Speaker 1: and it's Justin Herbert at Oregon. Does he come out
34:15
Speaker 1: or doesn't he? There's there's a bunch of guys who
34:18
Speaker 1: people believe, at least at this early stage of the
34:20
Speaker 1: epuation process, um Will Greer at West Virginia Dayne Haskins
34:25
Speaker 1: at Ohio State UM, from Daniel Jones at Duke UM.
34:31
Speaker 1: There are guys who they expect to climb because remember
34:34
Speaker 1: when Carson Wentz came out, he started as a maybe
34:37
Speaker 1: this kid's first round pick, and then he climbed all
34:39
Speaker 1: the way to the very top of the draft, So
34:40
Speaker 1: there will be some of that. What I'm saying is
34:44
Speaker 1: I think the Jaguars have a win left in them.
34:46
Speaker 1: I think it's probably Sunday against the Redskins. To go
34:50
Speaker 1: to Miami with this offense and wind doesn't seem plausible.
34:53
Speaker 1: Houston could have everybody sitting, but again, how many points
34:56
Speaker 1: is this team going to score? You just don't know that.
34:57
Speaker 1: It's the offense is in the mud. Um, So say
35:01
Speaker 1: they finished five and eleven and they're sitting at ten,
35:03
Speaker 1: there's a shot for you to get a quarterback. You
35:05
Speaker 1: don't have to be number one or even in the
35:08
Speaker 1: top five to be able to grab a guy. Now,
35:10
Speaker 1: if you fall in love with someone, well then maybe
35:12
Speaker 1: you're working your way up the board and happy and
35:16
Speaker 1: they'll certainly have a strategy for that if that's what
35:18
Speaker 1: they want to do. But yeah, you don't want to
35:21
Speaker 1: necessarily win out. Um, if you're a fan, you maybe
35:25
Speaker 1: you do. Maybe the thought of seven and nine is
35:28
Speaker 1: much more appealing to you. Um, But the way that
35:31
Speaker 1: this board looks this year, the opportunity for them to
35:33
Speaker 1: get a quarterback seems to be there, regardless of whether
35:36
Speaker 1: they're in the top five or outside of it. Okay,
35:40
Speaker 1: we get two more or three more than uh, no retreads.
35:45
Speaker 1: Get me a rookie QB. I could be patient while
35:47
Speaker 1: he learns. Don't want it, never was or it has been?
35:51
Speaker 1: Um so in our words, this guy doesn't want Teddy
35:53
Speaker 1: Bridgewater doesn't want um uh what can think of the
35:59
Speaker 1: name Derek Carr? Derek Carr? Uh, Joe Flacco. That was
36:03
Speaker 1: who I was thinking. He wants a quarterback, he wants
36:05
Speaker 1: his Baker Mayfield, he wants him in the lineup. Let's go. Okay,
36:09
Speaker 1: but then you have to see on the other side
36:11
Speaker 1: of it, who's teaching this guy while he learns? Is
36:14
Speaker 1: it Cody Keshler's at Blake Portals? Who's who's the starter?
36:17
Speaker 1: While this guy cutches up? Well, something to be found.
36:20
Speaker 1: But I agree on the premise you gotta get the
36:22
Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks. In other word, you're not trading for Joe
36:24
Speaker 1: Flacco thinking, um, he's our Yeah, he's our guy. He's
36:28
Speaker 1: only thirty three, he's going to be here the next
36:29
Speaker 1: five years. Um, you get a rookie quarterback, We'll see
36:34
Speaker 1: we can speculate on who the quarterback might be that
36:37
Speaker 1: this team likes. They might not like any of them,
36:39
Speaker 1: and so they may have to go get that guy.
36:41
Speaker 1: We'll find out. Cap Space obviously is an issue with
36:44
Speaker 1: this team. Malik Jackson shouldn't be released. Dude is dope.
36:48
Speaker 1: I love it. UH love Malik, and he's The thought
36:53
Speaker 1: is that he's going to be that guy who takes
36:57
Speaker 1: the salary cap hit and departs and goes somewhere else. Um,
37:00
Speaker 1: because they can't keep everybody on that side of the bowl.
37:02
Speaker 1: He's been pushed out of the starting lineup. I'm not
37:04
Speaker 1: real happy right now. Agree. Um. I never used the
37:07
Speaker 1: word dope, but he's dope. He's do We all love
37:09
Speaker 1: the week, but you saw what happened with the starting lineup.
37:12
Speaker 1: Great player, a great guy in the locker room. Gotta
37:14
Speaker 1: love uh. And then this last one, why do you
37:20
Speaker 1: keep putting this in here? It's Christmas time four and nine.
37:25
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry runs for two thirty eight? Makes you look stupid?
37:29
Speaker 1: What do you do? Yeah, it's life. You gotta make up.
37:32
Speaker 1: You might be happy, Sure, I'm happy. Yeah, all right,
37:34
Speaker 1: we'll take a break. When we come back. You'll all
37:36
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37:38
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39:29
Speaker 1: Drive Time Tuesday morning, fresh off All Access. Not the
39:34
Speaker 1: tape you watch the table of the weekend, I presume, yeah,
39:36
Speaker 1: a little bit on Friday, and I watched it again
39:39
Speaker 1: yesterday and then jumped ahead a little bit to the
39:42
Speaker 1: red Skins yesterday and it didn't look any better. The
39:45
Speaker 1: tape yesterday better than it did on Friday. The Jags tape,
39:50
Speaker 1: Yeah have the Redskins table. Look, uh, they were down offensively,
39:56
Speaker 1: just like the Jaguars offense. I'm struggling, struggling up run,
40:00
Speaker 1: struggling in the passing game, can't put together any drives.
40:05
Speaker 1: And I find it interesting just to a note on
40:07
Speaker 1: the Redskins and that you've got Mark Sanchez who has
40:10
Speaker 1: been there I think all of three weeks, and then
40:15
Speaker 1: you're gonna bench him for a guy that's been there
40:17
Speaker 1: for a couple of days. And the reason why, according
40:21
Speaker 1: to Jay Gruden, is as well, he moved the offense
40:24
Speaker 1: and he looked better. Well, hello, Josh Johnson was inserted
40:29
Speaker 1: when the score was forty to zip. Right, do you
40:32
Speaker 1: think the defense is gonna play the same way when
40:35
Speaker 1: it's tight versus forty to zip? Do you know Wayne
40:38
Speaker 1: Weavers still owned the Jaguars the last time Josh Johnson
40:42
Speaker 1: started in NFL, Yeah, that's thirteen, right, Yeah, it's crazy.
40:47
Speaker 1: And eleven was the last time he started a game.
40:49
Speaker 1: Then I think the last time he played was thirteen. Then, uh,
40:53
Speaker 1: last time he started was eleven. He was on a
40:55
Speaker 1: roster last year, I think somewhere. I mean, that's the
40:57
Speaker 1: thing you go back and you try to figure out
40:59
Speaker 1: where this guy's been in and I mean look credit
41:01
Speaker 1: to him. He actually he looked very good athletically. He
41:05
Speaker 1: ran the read option very well for the Washington Redskins.
41:08
Speaker 1: He scored on a on a scramble out of the pocket.
41:12
Speaker 1: I think it was about eight yard run and look
41:14
Speaker 1: good doing it. He made He made an incredible exactly,
41:19
Speaker 1: he made an incredible throw too, incredible well, one incredible
41:22
Speaker 1: read and one incredible throw on the two point conversions
41:25
Speaker 1: that they were able to make. The one was to
41:28
Speaker 1: the tight end Vernon Davis, who's been in the National
41:31
Speaker 1: Football League forever, and great anticipation, great location. It was
41:36
Speaker 1: a beautiful throw. And then the other one was just
41:39
Speaker 1: a great read. Because the defense of the Giants was
41:43
Speaker 1: so scared of the read option, they all kind of
41:45
Speaker 1: suck up. And then the wide receiver, the guy from
41:50
Speaker 1: Notre Dame that's had all kinds of issues uh in
41:53
Speaker 1: the National Football League. I got a uh, Michael Floyd,
41:58
Speaker 1: and he slips out and and he makes a great
42:01
Speaker 1: throw there. So the Jaguars have had trouble with running
42:05
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and this is what he is. So Jaguars defense
42:10
Speaker 1: get ready and I don't care if he's only been
42:14
Speaker 1: there for a week. You haven't been very good against
42:16
Speaker 1: running quarterbacks. And this is exactly what you're not good with.
42:20
Speaker 1: Why why haven't they been good at That's a great question.
42:22
Speaker 1: They got speed line well, they got speed it linebacker,
42:25
Speaker 1: They've got split speed at the rush. I think the
42:27
Speaker 1: awareness factor hasn't been very good as far as the
42:30
Speaker 1: responsibility and the discipline and the rush lanes. And to
42:33
Speaker 1: give you an example in last week's game, where you
42:36
Speaker 1: have marks Mariot to where he got out of the pocket,
42:39
Speaker 1: and you are sending a blitz, okay, and so you're
42:42
Speaker 1: sending the blitz, and so you even though you're sending
42:45
Speaker 1: the blitz, everybody has a responsibility on the blitz. It's
42:48
Speaker 1: not just okay, let's go get the quarterback, let's get crazy. No,
42:51
Speaker 1: that's not the way it is. Everybody has a lane responsibility.
42:54
Speaker 1: And so let's word the word defense. Okay. And I
42:59
Speaker 1: am the side of the blitz okay. And I've got
43:02
Speaker 1: another guy, Brian, coming on the outside here, and I've
43:05
Speaker 1: got another guy coming between me and Ashlyn, and Ashlyn
43:08
Speaker 1: is gonna loop around. So if all these guys are
43:11
Speaker 1: coming here on this side and you're the left outside rusher,
43:17
Speaker 1: where should you kind of be aware of maybe the
43:19
Speaker 1: quarterback want to run grub brilliant, brilliant. So you, holy cow,
43:26
Speaker 1: you didn't even have to have football instincts to tell
43:29
Speaker 1: me that. Well, in the game, this rush is coming
43:33
Speaker 1: from this side, and to Wan smooths the left end
43:36
Speaker 1: and you know what he does, power rushes the tackle
43:40
Speaker 1: right down the middle. And so what does Mariota do
43:44
Speaker 1: right around the outside of Hello, McFly, you're outside? Have
43:49
Speaker 1: some awareness and things like that are are how it happens. Look,
43:52
Speaker 1: there's sometimes where it just happens because you know, the
43:54
Speaker 1: quarterback makes a great play, a defensive lineman gets knocked
43:58
Speaker 1: down and it opens up all when it's an easy
44:00
Speaker 1: rush lane for the quarterback. But I mean plays like that,
44:03
Speaker 1: that that's awareness and that's just dumb. By the way,
44:06
Speaker 1: was awareness the issue on the ninety nine yard run?
44:08
Speaker 1: Did the safety go too flat to the line of
44:10
Speaker 1: scrimmage and just well, there's a couple of things. They
44:14
Speaker 1: were playing like a forty six bear defense and gock
44:17
Speaker 1: Way was lined up wrong, it looked like, and then
44:21
Speaker 1: which would have helped that side of the formation. And
44:25
Speaker 1: then Ronnie Harrison doesn't stay and he's got man coverage
44:29
Speaker 1: on tight end. He got to stay on the outside
44:31
Speaker 1: shoulder of his tight end. He doesn't do that, he
44:33
Speaker 1: actually gets reached by the next guy. Two, Shaun Gibson
44:38
Speaker 1: could have instead of coming around the edge like a
44:41
Speaker 1: blitzing fashion, could have laid back and been kind of
44:44
Speaker 1: a two way go. When I say a two way ago,
44:46
Speaker 1: he could have gone in the backfield if that's where
44:48
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry shows up. Then also could have fallen back
44:50
Speaker 1: to the inside, made a tackle if that's where the
44:53
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry shows up. And then the effort that the
44:56
Speaker 1: effort wasn't good and cock we didn't have great effort
44:58
Speaker 1: on that play. Jail On Ramsey didn't have great effort
45:00
Speaker 1: on that play. You know. So there's a lot of
45:04
Speaker 1: things on that. But I mean, when you start having
45:06
Speaker 1: multiple people that have breakdowns, because that's what I would
45:10
Speaker 1: call it, and then you have lack of effort because
45:13
Speaker 1: that's what the case was. It's like a perfect storm
45:16
Speaker 1: that can happen on a play. We have all that
45:17
Speaker 1: come out. I see a flashing light that says to me,
45:20
Speaker 1: you know, we're focused so much on fixing the offense,
45:22
Speaker 1: but you're gonna have to scrub this defense too. Yeah,
45:24
Speaker 1: you gotta fix some things. And there's no question about that.
45:27
Speaker 1: Because the amount of personal fouls this year, which is
45:32
Speaker 1: how many is it this year? Yeah, when it was
45:35
Speaker 1: two couple of weeks, it was twenty two going into
45:38
Speaker 1: the game against the Colts, coming out of the game,
45:41
Speaker 1: coming out of the game, that's what I thought. And
45:44
Speaker 1: they didn't have one against the Titans, I believe, so
45:46
Speaker 1: still at twenty two. And then the number of explosive
45:49
Speaker 1: plays that have been allowed by the defense because of
45:53
Speaker 1: mental errors, come on, you know, I mean, that's that's
45:57
Speaker 1: not good. We got the question in a greedy disagree
45:59
Speaker 1: about a rookie quarterback versus. It was termed retread, but
46:03
Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback reads okay about saying yeah, the question
46:08
Speaker 1: is if you're look, if you're if you're keeping Calais Campbell,
46:11
Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay that big salary, and I get it,
46:14
Speaker 1: he's worth the money. At um, you're not paying him
46:17
Speaker 1: that kind of money to kind of bridge to you're
46:21
Speaker 1: thinking about, right, what's your what's your instinct as a
46:25
Speaker 1: longtime football player football observer, what's your instinct to do
46:30
Speaker 1: at quarterback? Do you go rookie? Do you well, let
46:33
Speaker 1: me let me go back to what you're what you're
46:35
Speaker 1: talking about about, because you're you're you have kind of
46:37
Speaker 1: a twofold questionnaire. Do you pay a veteran guy like
46:40
Speaker 1: a Klais Campbell to help get you through to when
46:43
Speaker 1: you're gonna be good with the rookie quarterback? I believe
46:47
Speaker 1: you can be good with a rookie quarterback. And and
46:50
Speaker 1: also there was a mistake made in this organization, I
46:53
Speaker 1: think because they did what you're thinking, what you're exactly
46:57
Speaker 1: what they got rid of all the veteran leadership and
47:00
Speaker 1: brought in all this young youth and said, you know what,
47:03
Speaker 1: we don't need the veteran guys because by the time
47:05
Speaker 1: we get good, they're not gonna be functional and be
47:08
Speaker 1: helping us win football games. Well what did that do?
47:11
Speaker 1: It left the leadership void, and so you had all
47:13
Speaker 1: these young guys coming up and they didn't learned how
47:15
Speaker 1: to play the game or how to act as a pro.
47:17
Speaker 1: So you have to have that. And I look, class Campbell,
47:20
Speaker 1: fifteen million dollars of a year is a bargain. A
47:22
Speaker 1: bargain and for for multiple reasons. Because one, he has
47:26
Speaker 1: production a number two as leadership, and he's gonna show
47:28
Speaker 1: people how to be a pro. So if you have
47:30
Speaker 1: all these young guys coming up and they don't have
47:32
Speaker 1: that direction, where are they gonna get it? Sure? I mean, look,
47:35
Speaker 1: I know the strong coaching helps, and they can get
47:38
Speaker 1: it from coaching too, but you gotta have the veteran
47:40
Speaker 1: presence to help. I guess have it be believable because
47:44
Speaker 1: a lot of times when you got a coach saying,
47:46
Speaker 1: old man, he don't know nothing. And if Mallie Jackson
47:49
Speaker 1: is not going to be here, the only place you're
47:50
Speaker 1: gonna get it to Calais Well. I mean, he's part
47:52
Speaker 1: of it. I mean, and there's certain guys that that
47:54
Speaker 1: need to step up. I think the greatest leader. I
47:56
Speaker 1: think that the greatest leader that can be on this
47:59
Speaker 1: football team is Jalen Ramsey. He has to decide that
48:04
Speaker 1: it's that it's his team. He has to decide that
48:08
Speaker 1: he is going to take over this team. Because your
48:11
Speaker 1: greatest leadership comes from your greatest players. And if you
48:13
Speaker 1: can combine the two great player, great leader, that's what
48:18
Speaker 1: makes great teams. Tom Brady is a perfect example of that.
48:20
Speaker 1: Tom Brady carries the marching orders of Bill Belichick, not
48:23
Speaker 1: because he is Bill Belichick's boy, but because he knows
48:27
Speaker 1: that that's what it takes to win. And so the
48:30
Speaker 1: greatest player on this football team is arguably Jalen Ramsey.
48:34
Speaker 1: And he's young, and so if if he steps up
48:39
Speaker 1: and owns this football team, this team can do great things.
48:43
Speaker 1: And I'm not putting one to put all the pressure
48:45
Speaker 1: on him, because it's gonna come from other people, to
48:47
Speaker 1: like a Clay's campbell and all that. But Jalen Ramsey
48:50
Speaker 1: can go to any player in that locker room and
48:52
Speaker 1: demand more. And is he gonna get shunned? Made fun of? No?
48:59
Speaker 1: Did you see Mike up? Was? Did you guys run
49:01
Speaker 1: that on? I started to watch it this morning and
49:03
Speaker 1: then my dog distracted me. Watch. At the end, Todd Wash,
49:08
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator, puts his arm around Jalen. It says
49:11
Speaker 1: essentially what you've just said, um, And I, of course
49:13
Speaker 1: I was listening to it while it was going on,
49:16
Speaker 1: and I mentioned to you that I've kind of seen
49:17
Speaker 1: some growth from Jalen. You know, he had that moment
49:21
Speaker 1: in Indie that seemed very selfish. And then the last
49:24
Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's with the media. Um, the way
49:27
Speaker 1: that he's talked to his teammates, he appears to have
49:31
Speaker 1: grown some. Well, he's still got a lot of grown.
49:34
Speaker 1: After the game, he said, you know what't on me?
49:36
Speaker 1: You know, Derrick Henry running for two eight whatever was
49:39
Speaker 1: four touchdowns? He made kind of a comment to that affair. Yeah,
49:42
Speaker 1: but I was there, and I think that was taken
49:43
Speaker 1: out of context what he was really because if the
49:47
Speaker 1: way I read it, I was like, wait a minute,
49:48
Speaker 1: how well John and I talked about this yesterday. Um,
49:51
Speaker 1: the context in which the question was asked and the
49:53
Speaker 1: answer came. He was talking about how everybody has to
49:56
Speaker 1: be focused on doing their job and that he didn't
49:59
Speaker 1: get a lot of opportunit because they didn't throw, but
50:01
Speaker 1: that he focused on doing his job and everyone has
50:04
Speaker 1: to focus on doing their jobs. Because I was going
50:06
Speaker 1: to point out that on the fifty four yard run,
50:09
Speaker 1: that was his bad angle that could have stopped touchdown. Yeah, yeah,
50:13
Speaker 1: I didn't. He didn't feel like he was blaming other people.
50:15
Speaker 1: So now let's get to the quarterback question. If you
50:18
Speaker 1: kind of got sidetracked, right, what do they do? You
50:23
Speaker 1: gotta draft a guy, I mean, you gotta you gotta
50:25
Speaker 1: have a guy that's your own, whether it's trading for
50:28
Speaker 1: a guy like Mark Burnell or drafting a guy. But
50:30
Speaker 1: what's the opered puts the chances of trading for a
50:32
Speaker 1: guy that turns into Mark bow You've already had that one, Um,
50:36
Speaker 1: very slim. Can you draft a guy? Sure? I think
50:38
Speaker 1: you can draft a guy, and I think you're gonna
50:40
Speaker 1: have the draft capital to be able to do that
50:42
Speaker 1: because I think you, in my opinion, I think you
50:45
Speaker 1: need to trade some players office football team in the
50:47
Speaker 1: off season and then you acquire a few extra draft
50:51
Speaker 1: picks to help give you that draft capital. Don't ask
50:54
Speaker 1: me who I would trade, because you'll tell us no,
50:58
Speaker 1: I won't. Yeah, I know you won't enough to know that.
51:01
Speaker 1: I um, I think when you look at where this
51:04
Speaker 1: team is, let me just say this to that character matters. Yes,
51:08
Speaker 1: I was just about that. You need stronger personalities that
51:12
Speaker 1: are saying the right things because, as we mentioned, Dougs
51:16
Speaker 1: hands off approach, which is not entirely hands off, but
51:20
Speaker 1: he you know, he lets he knows how, he knows
51:22
Speaker 1: that the best message comes from him through players, not
51:27
Speaker 1: from him standing in their barking. We've all seen that
51:30
Speaker 1: and uh, it worked in it didn't work in the
51:34
Speaker 1: differences the players and the way they execute. I think
51:36
Speaker 1: a lot of people expect the head coach to automatically
51:39
Speaker 1: be this, pound the desk, you know, demanding you have
51:45
Speaker 1: to do this, and you don't have a choice. That's great,
51:48
Speaker 1: I mean, and it sounds good and I'm sure that
51:51
Speaker 1: it would look good, but will it be received? You know? So? Uh,
51:55
Speaker 1: that's why coaching leadership is. There's a delicate bounce. And
51:59
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a big even that coaching matters, but
52:01
Speaker 1: I'm a bigger believer in that player leadership matters more.
52:04
Speaker 1: The character side of it's the big issue. You need
52:06
Speaker 1: a couple of guys who bring that. And just from
52:09
Speaker 1: my perspective, I watched the Saints in the Rams back
52:12
Speaker 1: in on the bye week Jacks by week and realized
52:15
Speaker 1: that on in this game, you better spend some money
52:18
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball and the defensive side.
52:21
Speaker 1: You need a couple of guys who could It's almost
52:23
Speaker 1: the way that the rules are written, like you gotta
52:25
Speaker 1: break serve Like tennis, you need your defense to create
52:27
Speaker 1: a couple of turnovers because if they want games to
52:29
Speaker 1: be forty two thirty eight, you need to score forty two.
52:33
Speaker 1: I've always been a believer that you can you can
52:35
Speaker 1: help make a defense better maybe than what the talent is. Yes, yes,
52:40
Speaker 1: that's it to some extent. You know, there's certain positions
52:42
Speaker 1: that are a premium, the pass rushers, the coverage guys.
52:45
Speaker 1: But if you can get a couple of those guys
52:47
Speaker 1: on each side, uh and then have role players throughout
52:50
Speaker 1: the rest of the defense, you can make it make
52:51
Speaker 1: a defense better. It's just you've had so much money,
52:54
Speaker 1: so highly paid guys Calais Maleague, Marcel Right and and
52:58
Speaker 1: uh A J boy A, and you've got a lot
53:01
Speaker 1: of talent that you're paying on that side of the ball.
53:02
Speaker 1: You may have to get by with one player at
53:03
Speaker 1: every level, one highly paid star player, and which is
53:06
Speaker 1: what most teams can do. And I think that they
53:10
Speaker 1: have tried with the draft to address some of that.
53:13
Speaker 1: You know, they drafted Duane Smooth, they draft Tavin Brian
53:16
Speaker 1: with the anticipation that, look, we can't continue to pay
53:19
Speaker 1: those guys that you're talking about. But the question is, is
53:22
Speaker 1: is Tavin Bryan and Smooth ready to take that role? Yeah? Apparently,
53:28
Speaker 1: you know, I mean it's look, I mean, you gotta
53:30
Speaker 1: draft guys that that don't you don't give them something
53:33
Speaker 1: that they have to earn the right to be there.
53:35
Speaker 1: You know. So the jury is still out on those guys.
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Speaker 1: What happens in your four nine about the fun you're
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Speaker 1: talking about the future. I will say this that this organization,
53:46
Speaker 1: with the exception of Mark Bruno, which you didn't draft them,
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Speaker 1: this organization has never drafted a franchise quarterback. And when
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Speaker 1: you do, when you draft, when they've tried with Byron
53:57
Speaker 1: Leftwitch and Blake Gabbert and Blake Portals, but until you
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Speaker 1: strike gold, you're gonna try to be a winner. Can
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Speaker 1: I give you without a doubt, without a doubt, can
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Speaker 1: I give you the best of example of that? Though
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Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs forever nineteen sixty two, they became
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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, they were the Dallas Texans, they didn't They
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Speaker 1: signed Len Dawson. Len Dawson led into a Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: and they didn't draft him. And then from that point on,
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Speaker 1: man they said there was a time where they signed
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Speaker 1: um Joe Montana and Steve de Berg, Joe Montanan Niners quarterbacks, uh,
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Speaker 1: Steve Bono, Elvis Gerbag, I mean it was grab, grab, grab,
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Speaker 1: grab a minute, they drafted Matt Blunden, Matt Virginia. There
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Speaker 1: you go, there's your there's your cavalier reference for today.
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't until they drafted Patrick Holmes right in
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Speaker 1: their fifty seconds. I think he did too. The Chiefs
54:47
Speaker 1: started playing in in in nineteen sixty as the Dallas Texans,
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Speaker 1: and until two thousand seventeen they didn't draft a quarterback,
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Speaker 1: which is the won the Super Bowl once and they
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Speaker 1: hadn't been thin. Got you got? I mean, that's the
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Speaker 1: way the game is today, especially with the way the
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Speaker 1: rules are written. And also look at history, and history
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Speaker 1: will also show that if you look at the draft
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Speaker 1: that unless you're picking in the top of the draft,
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Speaker 1: you won't get a franchise quarterback. Now, Mahomes is a
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Speaker 1: little bit of the exception of the rule because he
55:18
Speaker 1: was a little bit later. But look, you gotta find
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Speaker 1: that guy. Not people ask me who's the guy. I
55:26
Speaker 1: don't know players that don't watch college football right there,
55:31
Speaker 1: I have not watched college football game all year, but
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Speaker 1: I will watch college tape once the Super Bowl is over.
55:38
Speaker 1: So ask me in April. We'll call you. Do you
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Speaker 1: think Deshaun Watson looks like a franchise quarterback. When I
55:43
Speaker 1: watched his college tape, I thought he was a one
55:45
Speaker 1: read guy. I thought he was. I thought he was
55:47
Speaker 1: a one read guy that questions about his his ability
55:52
Speaker 1: to read defenses. But I give the Texans credit that
55:54
Speaker 1: they're not expecting him to read defenses, and so the
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Speaker 1: style that play him at he can function at a
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Speaker 1: at a very good high level, maybe borderline high level.
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Speaker 1: I I don't know. But the guy that can read
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Speaker 1: it and wing it and you, if you ask him,
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Speaker 1: throw it any which way you want to, that's that's
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Speaker 1: my home. And to watch the throw that he made
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Speaker 1: his quarterback over watch college tape on well, and he did.
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Speaker 1: He looked like John Elway against the Ravens late in
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Speaker 1: the ballgame, rolling to his right and then throwing all
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Speaker 1: the way back across the fields. Was fantastic, And I
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Speaker 1: didn't like him when I watched his college all right, Jeff,
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Speaker 1: we greatly appreciate your inside every week. Thanks only got
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Speaker 1: a couple more of these and the season is over.
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Speaker 1: That'll do it for Tuesday. Bryan Ashland, Jeff, Joe Stone
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Speaker 1: Cold say and have a great day, don't forget happy.
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Speaker 1: At four o'clock this afternoon,