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What If?... The Seahawks Can Win By A Mile in Denver · Sea Hawkers Podcast: for Seattle Seahawks fans

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Welcome in, welcome in, welcome, friends, to the newest
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edition of Sea Hawkers What If?
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It is the most unique Seahawks preview show in the entire multiverse.
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Boys, I'm your host Clinton Bonner.
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I'm joined by the one, the only, the great Brandan Schulze, and of course it
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would not be, it could not be, we cannot traverse the multiverse together, the
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Seahawks multiverse, without the protector of that multiverse, and that is Mr.
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Phil Lydick.
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Boys, I wore it yesterday 'cause I was ready to turn the page.
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I'm wearing it again, Brandan and Phil, because now I am squarely
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focused on this throwback game.
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Brandan, have you turned the page from the Niners, and are you ready
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for some Thursday night football?
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I'm not quite as ready as you because I have not gone throwback- Mm
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with my shirt or my hat, but I see both of you are locked
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and loaded with the throwbacks.
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So, I, I guess I got one of the throwback helmets there
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behind me on the wall, right?
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Oh, that way.
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I see it.
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I see it.
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Yeah.
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That always counts.
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Yeah.
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Very nice.
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So Phil, you got…
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do you have the proper cap on?
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Is your Easley jersey nearby at least?
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Is that close to you?
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I should have worn the Easley jersey, and thank you for reminding me.
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The, 45 would've been appropriate as we head into those
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wonderful jerseys tomorrow night.
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Can't believe it.
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I know.
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Getting stoked.
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Just get right to it, yeah.
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It's gonna be so cool.
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So excited for it.
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the NFL, wardrobe lo- overlords are, are excited as well,
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so it's kinda nice to also get that extra, just that extra bit of juice
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that literally everybody in the NFL world is excited to see the uniforms.
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Now, can the play be as aesthetically pleasing as the uniforms can be?
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Because I…
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that's what we're gonna do today.
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We're gonna get into the preview show.
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It is What If?
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For those that don't know it, Mr.
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Phil comes up with this big theme for the week.
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We do not know what that theme is yet.
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We, we're gonna learn it live.
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So when…
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if you're watching this live with us on YouTube, comment along with your
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answers, and along with that theme we're gonna see six unique questions.
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We do not know what he's gonna ask us, so we are gonna dance our
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faces off and answer these live.
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So again, you get a chance to do that with us.
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And it's a special occasion.
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Because it's a short week, we are doing it live, so if you're here with us
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live, you know, put your comments in.
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We'll try to get them on screen as we go as well.
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So Mr.
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Phil, look, we look at these Broncos.
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Let's, let's get to the previously with the protectors so we
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can bring that up on screen.
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I'll bring it up for you here.
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But as we look at these Broncos and we start to discuss them, is…
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we've been sloppy, and we've been kind of sluggish.
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And then there's the Denver Broncos.
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So what did you see versus those Super Chargers last week?
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They get the W, but should they feel good about that?
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I don't know.
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It felt like the Chargers, feel like the Chargers kind of threw
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this game even more than maybe they had a comedy of errors against us.
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We kind of both did in ours.
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This one, definitely the Chargers had more of those.
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When I was looking at DVOA, I actually expected the Broncos
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to show up a little different.
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I thought their defense would be higher and their offense would be lower,
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but they're both just totally mid.
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And you watch the game, and it's kind of that.
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their defense is, as far as DVOA, it's 14th, eighth against the pass,
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and I absolutely am sure that has to do with their pass rush, 'cause
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their pressure's pretty fantastic.
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What's holding them back is they're putrid against the run so far this
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year, 29th DVOA against the run.
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Hufanga's still really good, and we're glad to have him out of our version of the
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West, but we'll see him again this week.
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he for- he had a really nice force job- Ooh … on a tight end fumble.
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Edge rush, getting home a lot.
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they do over-pursue, so I think they're pretty vulnerable
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for misdirection, especially in running plays, other kind of plays.
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Number 49, Singleton, he seems to be everywhere, but I think he's probably
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more involved than he would like to be involved in, in some of these plays,
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trying to, finish things off.
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Zach Allen, he's awesome.
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Mm-hmm.
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And he also caused a huge fourth quarter sack fumble.
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But I'd also say, Justin was really fumble-likely in this game.
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He put it out there far too much.
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I hope Sam doesn't behave like that in our game.
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the offense, again, 15th, very mid.
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They had fairly solid protection, for a while un- unless they were blitzed.
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Lots and lots of play action early on.
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I would say this about Payton: he took over the call sheet, and he's
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still calling a super cautious game, maybe even more cautious.
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Dobbins is good enough.
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He's just okay.
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He does the things that he's asked to do.
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Nothing special, but he's fine.
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they were helped quite a bit by some friendly pass interference flags.
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So the yards were low, but they got quite a few yards off of pass interference.
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Nix fumbled twice, lost one.
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they got their very first down in the second half 20 minutes
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into the second half, to give you an idea how effective they were.
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It was kind of a, I wouldn't- That's crazy … be excited if I was a Donkeys fan how
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they handled the Chargers this past week.
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Brandan?
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Yeah.
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I'll go back to one thing you said- … that we'll see Hufanga
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this week, and actually we won't because he, sustained an ankle
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injury- Oh, I didn't know that … in that game against the Chargers.
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Okay.
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And so he is gonna be out, and, Patrick Surtain al- already ruled out too.
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Yes.
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So that is going to impact this Broncos defense.
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While they, they are a very talented defense too, I mean, those
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are probably two of their more talented players, but they're…
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You mentioned one of their big guys up front that is, is probably the
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most talented and, and a player that John Schneider I think wanted
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to get on our team at one point.
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Mm.
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Yeah, so th- so the bad news for Hufanga is good news for our Seahawks,
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'cause he is, he is everywhere, man.
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But he won't be there tomorrow, so kind of, kind of a nice
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break for us, and heal up.
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We don't want the guy to be hurt forever.
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Th- this could be…
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Look, we wa- I watched most of this game too, and P- you said it very well, Phil,
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like Payton takes back over the playbook.
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So everybody…
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Was it Davis Webb, right?
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That's the, that's the, the- Yeah … OC's name, right?
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So everybody expects, "Okay, he took it back from Davis Webb, and it's
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gonna be magically delicious here."
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And it just wa- it just wasn't.
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It was, it was more horizontal raid stuff.
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And- Very little threatening the ball downfield whatsoever, very little
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pushing the ball d- downfield at all from Nix, and I just wonder how that…
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Like, I just can't imagine they're gonna just keep tr- doing that.
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Against the Chargers, it's like they could get away with it.
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Yeah.
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And I just think that's not a pl- not, not a recipe to win versus Seattle.
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So I guess my caution to everybody is I don't expect Payton to be
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this conservative and feel like he could get away with it and
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still, you know, walk out with a W.
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So I think they'll dial it up in ways, and we're gonna talk about them.
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Yeah, Bo's short throws, like he's got the lowest depth of
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target in all of the league.
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He did try pushing it down the field, but it seemed fake.
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Like, nobody had a chance of catching anything he threw deep.
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It was kind of like, "Ooh, check it out, I can throw it far," even
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though no one's going to catch these.
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But, that's kind of what I saw.
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How about we get into our theme, gentlemen?
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Let's do it.
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Do it.
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Let's do that.
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You are headed to a high altitude if you're watching this game, the
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famous Mile High Stadium, and we would really like our Seahawks offense
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in particular to begin soaring.
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Maybe some altitude will allow them to soar as they head, just quickly
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brush off the last game, quickly go up to the Mile High Stadium.
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And gentlemen, what if our Hawks can soar at Mile High, kind of like Sam Darnold
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in the picture, riding the donkey there.
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let's have a victory, enjoyment- Very real photo, you can tell.
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Yes.
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Very.
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There's no doubt about it.
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Well- That, the whole donkey team right there.
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They just ride- It's weird that the Broncos would put a, a Bronco logo
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on a donkey and allow Sam to ride it.
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Well, they didn't allow it.
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He's taking it.
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That's happening tomorrow, Brandan.
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We're at game six, which means that's an even-numbered game.
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Clinton gets to go first.
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All of these categories have something to do with miles, since we'll be
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over a mile in the air at this game.
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Clinton, miles ahead, green mile, mile in my shoes, mile
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wide, extra mile, or 500 miles.
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Love it.
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Okay, cool theme.
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And we see Maximus chiming in, saying he loves the green mile.
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I'm not gonna go there yet, but I'm tired, boss.
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But first, I'm gonna go, I love it when somebody or even I go the extra
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mile, but if someone does that for me or if I do it for somebody, it always
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feels good to go the extra mile.
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So let's go the extra mile.
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Yes, feels like a brilliant teacher talked about going the extra mile.
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It's good to do.
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Clinton, what if you tell us which Broncos are going to require extra
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attention in this short week of meetings?
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They can only allocate so much time.
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Who's gonna be- Mm … focused on from the Broncos?
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Well, I mean, you think you mentioned them earlier with, with Mr.
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Zach there.
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I- it's- Sure … let, let me turn it over to they have some star
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power on their offensive line, right?
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So Garett Bolles being, being a big, a big one there.
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But you got, you got Meinerz who's a big name.
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You know, you got Mc- McGlinchey who we know from San
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Francisco for all these years.
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So on paper, it's a good offensive line.
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in reality and what we're seeing, it's been okay a- and it's been gettable.
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So Give me the Mike Macdonald's ability that if they're not gonna
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be able to test this downfield, and again, I think they'll try, but they
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haven't been very successful yet.
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So if we have our full complement of DBs, which we do, which means Julian Love,
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which means Ty Okada, you know, maybe we see some more Nehemiah Pritchett.
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He certainly earned some time there.
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But we have our full complement of guys, and that includes Emmanwori and Spoon.
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Well, guess what, guys?
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Then I really do expect Macdonald to do two things.
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Number one, get out of so much zone, dial up more man than normal because
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we're-- they are not field stretchers, so we could take more chances, but
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also dial up a little bit more blitz.
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Get Bo hot and bothered, get Emmanwori and get Spoon and Drake
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Thomas if his ankle's okay.
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Get them blitzing through various gaps throughout the day and heat it up.
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So if I'm looking at that, I'm paying real good attention to what could I do,
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to this, to this Broncos offensive line that's really good in name recognition- Mm
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but this year not so great in execution, and I wanna test that metal, Phil.
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Okay, their O line, extra attention, how we're gonna beat them.
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Brandan, some Broncos that should take extra attention in the
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small amount of time we have.
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Yeah, Clinton started to go there, I think, with Zach Allen, so I
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will finish it and also talk a little bit about Nik Bonitto- Mm
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because these are the two guys that, you have to worry about not
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just pressure, but quick pressure.
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And Zach Allen has recorded eight quick pressures this season, which is the
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most for an interior defensive lineman.
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Wow.
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And, you know who he's gonna be.
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we've, we've seen whether or not he lines up against Abe or whether or not
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he's the, the, whatever, right guard that we're rotating through, that's,
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gonna be where they're concerned with.
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Nik Bonitto, on the other hand, I, I think that Charles Cross
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should be able to handle him, but he is, he's generating a 6.1%
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pressure rate over expected- Yeah … which is the highest
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among edge rushers this season.
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So, yeah, and, so you, when you talk about extra attention, other teams
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have been showing him extra attention.
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He's been chipped on 22% of his pass rushes.
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Mm.
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So he's getting some extra attention, and he's still getting
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pressure over the expected rate.
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He was coming at Justin a lot this past week.
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Mm.
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That left side was, not doing very well, so that's a- But Bonitto's, Bonitto's
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awesome, and I do wanna say too- Yeah
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like with what Brandan's saying there, I think it's a great call The, there's
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a lot of data out there this week around that Seattle has went from
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being one of the teams that did kind of close to max protect, if you call
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seven-man max protect, and now they're one of the lowest in max protect.
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So- Hmm
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Brandan, if we got a chip, which I think is a good idea to have somebody
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back there to help with Nik Bonitto and that kind of speed, sure, you
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could leave Cross on an island.
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Bonitto's really, his, his get off is really elite.
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Elite, elite, elite.
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Cross is fast, Bonitto's faster.
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So it'll be interesting to watch, and if they flop sides, Abe has struggled
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this, this year so far a little bit.
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So can we, if we're gonna concentrate more on them, which I love the idea,
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Brandan, do we just do a bit more of, like, six, seven men back and then just
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throw it to the guy who's always open?
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Maybe.
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Yeah.
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And I mean, if, does chipping count as, max protect, or is that just chipping?
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I think that's like, it depends, I think, what they do after that.
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Do they go to the second level, or are they out in, or do they,
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do they go out in a pattern?
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So, but either way, I'm all for giving, doing what we can to, I
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don't know, give Sam a little, little more time in these games this year.
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Yeah, let's give him a little time.
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Little time.
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I like it.
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Sneaky, sneaky good question there, Brandan.
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It was like you're in algebra and you're trying to drill down.
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"Now, does this mean that or does this mean that?
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I just want to know."
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Great answer though, Brandan, on who t- really, I thought you handled
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the question exactly right, Brandan.
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Okay.
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I'm giving you the credit on that one.
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And now you get to go to the next category.
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Hey, I'm, I, I g- I get a point.
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He wins.
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so I guess I get to go next, since I answered that one,
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Yes … well, and it's my turn as well.
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That's why.
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So I am going to go with The Proclaimers and 500 Miles.
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Hmm.
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This is, this is perfect, Brandan, and do you know why?
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Do you know why?
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Because if you or I were to walk to Mile High Stadium, we'd go 500 miles,
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and then we'd go 500 more because from Spokane or Kalispell to get to
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Denver, it is just over 1,000 miles.
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So- All right.
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Funny … but you're not walking, you're flying, right, Brandan?
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I am not going at all, so, it's- You're not.
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Neither one.
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Well, Brandan, if you did walk there, what if you were the man
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to walk 1,000 miles to Denver?
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What would you expect to see from the two quarterbacks in this matchup, Brandan?
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Man, gosh, I feel like the answer is turnovers to both of this from what
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we've seen these last couple weeks, 'cause Bo Nix has struggled with turnovers.
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Sam's struggled with turnovers.
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It's, it's something that it's going to end up being the key to this game
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as to how, and really where they turn it over because- What we saw last
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week with the Niners giving them short fields, it's kind of what they were
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able to take advantage of the, m- in the Broncos game against the Chargers.
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They were able to take advantage of short fields.
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So I guess that's…
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I- if I'm to say it in another way, it would be that, it's
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been very difficult for both of these quarterbacks to drive the
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length of an entire field to score.
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Hmm.
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And against the Chargers that their longest drive of the day was a 60-yard
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drive that they ended up settling for a field goal, and all of their touchdown
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drives were on the, Chargers side of the field after they turned it over.
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So I, I think that it's, especially on a short week, I don't expect much
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to change in terms of turnovers, and that, it's, it's going to be which
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one of these quarterbacks ends up making the least amount of mistakes on
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the most important side of the field.
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Yeah.
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These quarterbacks are gonna play a huge role in how this game
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goes, as quarterbacks often do.
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But Bo- Bo is very likely to f- co- to fumble, and he did a
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couple times, just happened to get one back in this past game.
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What are you expecting to see from these quarterbacks on this short week, Clinton?
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okay, so the short week part I think is important, and maybe,
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probably for both teams to be honest.
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However, let's first concentrate on the Seahawks and what does it maybe mean.
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You know, sometimes it's like, okay, we have a really tough loss against the
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Niners, and I'm turning the page, folks.
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But we had that tough loss.
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We, we know we should have won and could have won, and we did not win.
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Okay, all, all good and fine and true.
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The short week m- really might mean just a lot of simplification from Fleury and Sam.
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So, and what- Yeah … and what does that mean?
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How does that come out?
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I hope so.
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I kinda, kinda called for it last week, be like, you know, maybe,
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maybe we just spam more JSN.
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You know, we watch what, we watch what the Rams do, and they're like, "All
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right, 16, 16 receptions for Puka."
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They lose the game, we like that.
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Laws versus the Bills, thank you Josh and company.
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And Mevis, thank you for- But that was their defense, not their
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offense that lost that game.
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Correct.
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Yeah.
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That, that, that is correct.
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Yeah … and so maybe it's just a simplification, and
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again, what does that mean?
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maybe it's just more, more short stuff and more easy stuff to, and more short,
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a quick game to, to JSN and company.
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And the other thing Can we get, you know, we're under center quite a bit.
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we're, we're play actioning, we're, we're running from under
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center a lot, a lot, a lot.
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Can we just mix that back up a bit more?
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Can we get our tight ends involved?
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Can we, can we rip some balls over the seams and, and access
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the middle of the field?
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Which I know we can, but- Oh, and this is a good defense to do
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it against … yeah, right, yes.
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But it's not, but it hasn't happened really yet, right?
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We haven't seen Arroyo on a seam, and we haven't even seen Barner
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on a seam or a flag really.
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We've seen lots of the flats, lots of, lots of tight end screens.
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Cool to mix it in, but can we, can we see that too, Phil?
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So, Bo- on the Bo side of it, look, I, I expect Bo to be under a lot of
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duress, and I expect Bo to YOLO, and I expect Bo to try and scramble, and
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I think we are very good at negating that with a spy, and I think we will.
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The one thing I would say about Bo and this Denver Broncos team, especially
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at home, is, what do I expect is if it's a tight game in, going
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into the fourth quarter, buckle up.
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But Bo- Hmm … somehow gets better.
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He somehow- Yeah, he does … they, they get better and they turn it on.
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So if we're playing with our food a bit, and it's like a three-point game
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in the fourth quarter, or we're up six and they have the ball, don't just
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count on it being like, okay, Bo's gonna keep stinking the entire game.
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He- Mm-hmm … has shown me time and time again, the game goes on,
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he somehow gets a little better.
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Well, both quarterbacks played better at the end of the game.
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I mean, Sam just about did what Bo did and, and brought the comeback.
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But I do think you've called out the path here, especially
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for this opponent, Clinton.
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They, their pass defense is all about their pass rush.
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And if, if Sam doesn't get over his thing where he's holding onto the
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ball too long, we're not winning this.
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He has to get into the quick game, because it's their coverage that isn't great.
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And so there, there cannot be this waiting garbage against the Broncos pass defense.
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I, I think that quick game has gotta be on point, and maybe
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simple, just simple like you said.
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I, I think I would love that as well.
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And you get to go next.
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We have four mile choices remaining, all the top four here.
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Mm-hmm.
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All right.
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You know, every now and again you wanna walk a mile
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in somebody else's shoes.
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Let's, let's do that walk.
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Oh, I think this will be fun.
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Here we go, Clinton.
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What if you could fill in for Fleury regarding the run game, which we
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haven't spoken of yet, what would you ask of Coach Hammock, and what might
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you- Hmm … try on game day, Clinton?
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Okay.
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There's a lot, there's a lot there, a lot of p- a lot of potential paths.
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Walk a mile in his shoes today.
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Look, the, let's first look in the mirror and understand what we are.
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This team went through, like, two evolutions, maybe a two and a half
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evolutions last year, and that was we were JSN heavy the first half of the year, then
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teams figured it out and we kind of just did enough to get by in the middle of the
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season after the fir- the first Rams game, and then we became a dominant run team.
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We had this, like, Pokemon style evolution.
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We l- literally had three stages last year, and we carried- I don't know what
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that means, but I totally agree with it.
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And we…
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Perfect.
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And we carried that forward.
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Carried that forward.
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We ended up with a 17 and 3 record.
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We were h- hoisting Lombardi Maybe our evolution this year is just
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happening a little faster, where it's, maybe it's a little more sped up.
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So that means we have to recognize that this, this team runs,
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literally runs through the run game.
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Right now we don't have the horses, so what do we get with Henry?
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Let's see.
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Does still sounds like we're not gonna get Charbonnet this week.
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I don't know, as we're going live, if that's been totally decided yet or not,
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or we could just expect to see him for KC, but I don't expect Charbonnet yet.
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So what do I expect?
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I don't expect any George Holani, literally as close to zero as
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possible, maybe not even dressing.
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So I would try and get Em- Emanuel Wilson up the middle, you know, A,
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B, C gaps, not really stretching it any further than that, really
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the B gap, as much as possible.
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And if I'm Fleury, I would look to have Rashid Shaheed in the backfield for a
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couple of, a couple of times to, A, keep it honest, do some things off of that.
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You…
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If you wanna run your boots and your nakeds with, with Sam, cool, bring Shaheed
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out there and fake a, fake a toss to him left and boot right, as an example.
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Yeah.
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Like- Sure … that's a way where I don't think we're gonna end up in
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a sack, because they've gotta honor the fact that the dude back there
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can actually run the wide zone.
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So th- those…
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That's kind of the cocktail I put together, Phil, is like,
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let's put Shaheed back there.
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Emanuel Wilson's gotta have a, the majority of the touches.
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Mm-hmm.
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And if we have Shaheed back there also, I saw it earlier, can we
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free Tory Horton a little bit?
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Can we get…
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If we have Shaheed's in the backfield, can we get a little more Tory?
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That's some of the areas I would do, Phil.
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And of course, Coach Hammock, tell your boys to put two
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hands on the frigging ball.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Go ahead, Brandan.
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How about you?
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Yeah, I…
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That's, that's the answer, right, is that, just Emanuel
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Wilson, don't give it up.
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And he's generally been good at that.
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He just, he faced a, a, a perfect punch from Fred Warner this past week.
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And fu- fumbling hasn't really been a part of his game, even dating back to,
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his, his previous stints in the NFL.
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So that's kind of why you have that guy, is just so you can plunge forward,
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get your three yards, and, and be okay.
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So, asking what I might try, I'd, I'd go a similar route as Clinton and, …
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'Cause what, we did the one little pop pass to Shaheed, and
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I don't think that's enough.
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I think you wanna lean on that a little bit more and work the
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outside just a little bit more.
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Because- If you're hoping for any more than two or three yards up the middle
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against this Broncos defense, you're pretty unlikely to get it because
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of the aforementioned Zach Allen.
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You got Malcolm Roach as well, and, D.J.
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Jones.
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And so I, I think that, Jones is a pretty good interior defender too.
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So, I, I don't- They mostly get killed in the outside.
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I mean, they're, they're bad DVOA.
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Right, right.
23:24
If you drill down the 29th in DVOA, it's giant runs- But you don't have
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a guy other than, you know, Henry.
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I mean, hopefully he can get outside, but is that something that
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you go into this game relying on?
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I, I feel more comfortable relying on giving Shaheed five touches.
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I, I'm totally down.
23:44
I don't know what's to lose on that, right?
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Yeah.
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The, the Henry part will be very interesting.
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Number one, will he dress?
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And then if he dresses, Well, he has to if Holani doesn't Oh, I
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understand that that's part of it, right?
23:56
And then if he is in there, you know, it's a d- it's a dude off of a, you know,
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he's a UDFA off another team's scrap heap.
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And, but if you go watch his, what is it, UTSA or USTA, right?
24:07
University of, Texas, San Antonio.
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Yeah.
24:09
Go watch it.
24:10
There's some f- there's some fun stuff there.
24:11
It's like, oh, he d- he ran a 4.6,
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so therefore he's, you know, he's, he's not Jahmyr Gibbs.
24:16
Like, well, no kidding.
24:17
You know, we, we understand he's not Jahmyr Gibbs, but you could run 4.6
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and still be a very effective running back.
24:23
So, let's see.
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He looked pretty shifty in his college tape.
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Shifty, and we shift to Brandan.
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Miles ahead, green mile, or mile wide?
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let's walk the green mile.
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Mm-hmm.
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Here we go.
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I'm tired, boss.
24:37
Brandan, what if the Broncos try to lock up JSN?
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How might they go about this with their banged up secondary, and
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how should Seattle counter if they do choose to follow that path?
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Hmm.
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It is going to be tough with this banged up secondary.
24:55
One of the things that, their secondary tends to do is, with
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Surtain out, and, I think even to a little bit, of an
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extent, with, With Walton
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oh, their, their other corner.
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Riley Moss?
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With, Riley Moss, yeah.
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And he has hurt ribs.
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Yep.
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But, when those guys go out, they are, definitely a, a more zone defense.
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And, I think, 'cause they like to play a lot of man-to-man with Surtain, with
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Moss, and they can do that because both those corners are really, really good.
25:29
So I think with the banged up secondary, you're going to see a lot more zone,
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and, that's gonna make it, I think, a little bit more beneficial for
25:40
some of these guys to find the zones, like Cooper Kupp, Sam Darnold.
25:44
hopefully he can get back to, being, good in, in zone coverage
25:51
because, well, actually, he has been good in zone this, year.
25:55
He's, he's actually averaging 9.3
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yards per attempt against zone coverage this season, which is the second most
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among, NFL quarterbacks this year.
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Wow.
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So, That's awesome … that actually does tip it to, to our
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benefit as long as we have those guys on the field that are, …
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so, yeah.
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hey, how about getting Horton involved and,
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and, and, and getting him into some zone coverage?
26:20
But I think if we're being more likely, I, I think, it could lean toward
26:25
a good day for, Cooper Kupp.
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I have seen Sam throw some of his best passes where he fit JSN, like right
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between three or four guys in the zone honey hole pocket- Mm-hmm … type thingy.
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So, I like that.
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But if they're trying to lock up JSN, I ha- had to go somewhere else, right?
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Yep.
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Yep.
26:43
How about you, Clinton?
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How are they gonna do it if they try, and if they are somewhat
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successful, how do we counter?
26:50
Yeah, this is a bit of like changing the scorpion's nature
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type thing, that, that old parable.
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And, with Surtain or not, which will be not, and with Riley Moss banged up, and
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Hufanga back there who really brings a hat, like he's a aggressive safety,
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and he really hits hard consistently, those are major, major problems.
27:11
The, that Niners game, what was it three-three for the longest time until
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that very terrible, fumble call, and then Surtain goes out and, and fi-
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So they just, they lost, and, and they really took huge advantage of that.
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But I'm not so sure they're gonna change their stripes, so meaning
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they will still play a lot of man.
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They will, they will send their blitzing every, every, you know, pr-
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a pretty hefty rate, but also they got the horses to go, go get it with four.
27:38
I expect them just to try to s- say, "Okay, our next man up, man, man
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or men up can just still play man," because the data is what the data is.
27:49
This year, Sam and the Seahawks have been terrible against man,
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and last year we picked the…
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We killed man.
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Like, you wanted to go man last year against us?
27:58
We destroyed you until the NFL was like, "Oh, we can't do that."
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The first half of the year was like, "Sam Darnold can't beat us."
28:05
And all Sam did for eight straight weeks, nine weeks, was torch people with JSN on
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his way to Offensive Player of the Year.
28:13
And then they changed and figured some things out, and I, again, at
28:16
that evolution I'm talking about, it's like I think the Broncos
28:20
are gonna do what the Broncos do.
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that's how I think they're gonna try, Phil, 'cause that's what the question is.
28:25
Now, will it be successful?
28:27
I, I sure hope not, but I do think Brandan's onto something that as much
28:31
as I'd like to spam JSN, throwing the ball 18 times this week, we really…
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If you go l- open the, the gambling apps, right, it's
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like, you're like, "Oh, okay.
28:39
It's like JSN 100-plus yards is kind of break even money."
28:42
Really?
28:43
The next Seahawks…
28:43
Yeah, well, that's like break even, right?
28:45
It's like hundreds- Wow … like one, one…
28:46
Yeah, you, this, that's what they predict, and the data tells them that, right?
28:49
This is not just a dude sitting in Vegas in a, you know, a closet.
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Mm-hmm.
28:53
The next Seahawks guy, it's like Shaheed at, like, 22 yards.
28:57
Like, the gap is that gigantic.
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So to Brandan's point, we have got to find a way to get some other receivers
29:06
mixed in, especially if they're like, if they're gonna play man and then also
29:10
slide people to JSN's side, which of course that's what they're gonna do.
29:15
So can we- Yeah … please get some other outlets, like,
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substantially involved in this game.
29:21
How cool would it be if we end the game and we're like, "Oh, crap, Barner was the
29:25
leading receiver somehow with like 90," you know, and we win going away of course.
29:29
And then we'll just fall over and pass out if it happens.
29:32
'Cause I mean, seriously, if we don't get a turnover and JSN isn't involved in
29:36
something in the drive, we don't score.
29:38
That's just how…
29:39
If there's been no turnovers and JSN isn't a part of the drive,
29:42
there's no scoring for the Seahawks.
29:44
So when we ignore him, it can be very frustrating if we're trying
29:48
to do this, get other people involved, and they're lesser players
29:52
with less ability to get open.
29:54
So it's a it's gotta be such a tough decision for someone like
29:58
Fleury or even Sam to go with.
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He's like, "I know I can get this guy, but I wanna get these other
30:03
guys and make them be respected."
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I don't- Yeah … I wouldn't wanna walk a mile in those shoes.
30:08
That's a tough, tough, tough decision.
30:10
But what would you do, Phil?
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If y- if you were, would you just play the, "Hey, we're gonna spam JSN"?
30:15
Would you do the Puka?
30:16
Would you do the McVay Puka and be like, "We're gonna do this
30:19
until you show us you can't"?
30:20
If they're only putting one guy on him, yeah.
30:23
Or if they're, if they're not do- really, they need to do man plus zone.
30:27
There needs to be a man on JSN, and then he's going into zone off that.
30:30
If they're just playing man and there's no safety over the top, I- if I'm Sam, I'm…
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He's my first read almost every single play, even if Fleury doesn't call it.
30:39
I, I don't know how one dude, especially with the list of guys
30:42
you just gave me from the Broncos.
30:44
This isn't Richard Sherman out there.
30:45
Like, who's stopping JSN by himself?
30:48
There's not a player in the league, let alone hurt backups on this team.
30:53
Mm-hmm.
30:53
So why would you do a lesser option, you know?
30:56
But- Mm-hmm … I don't- Yeah.
30:58
Well said.
30:59
Yeah, I think Denver fans would feel a whole lot better going
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into this game if Surtain were healthy and- Mm … covering JSN.
31:05
I think if you asked a Bronco fan, "Do you want 20 targets to JSN or five?"
31:11
Bronco fan wants five targets to JSN.
31:14
Yeah.
31:14
Yeah.
31:14
Fair.
31:15
Okay.
31:16
And now we move back to Clinton.
31:18
He's either miles ahead or miles wide.
31:20
I'm not sure which one is it, Clinton.
31:22
Oh, you know what?
31:23
Miles wide sounds like running lanes, and I want running lanes.
31:26
Let's go miles wide.
31:27
It does have to do in a way, and one of these guys is not playing.
31:31
I put the graphic up there of our original who, who we hope to have to be our O line.
31:36
We do have four of these guys.
31:37
Mm-hmm.
31:38
So we're talking about the wide bodies on offense.
31:40
Clinton, what if you could push a button and have our
31:43
wide bodies improve on offense?
31:45
Give us your number one hope, hope that is, for the O line
31:49
in this game for improvement.
31:51
I w- I hope, want, need, I need Abe Lucas to play better football.
31:57
Okay.
31:57
You know?
31:57
And, and so last week we covered, the Niners game last night as we turned
32:02
the page, and one of the major points was they got rookie late round draft picks
32:08
beating our stud tackles who are vets.
32:13
Like, that's not supposed to happen.
32:15
And, you know, you're gonna get got every now and again, but not supposed to happen.
32:19
And Abe, I think, has been, now maybe it's because he doesn't have in,
32:23
M- m- Bradford … what is that?
32:26
Brad, sorry, yeah, Bradford Anthony.
32:27
AB right next to him, my bad.
32:29
Does have Bradford right next to him, and maybe that's really hurting
32:32
him e- especially with the rotation between Beau and Haynes, and who knows?
32:35
It could, could very well be.
32:38
E- even with that, though, he is not, to me, he's-- he looks a little
32:42
slower, he looks a little late, Right … and he's getting beat.
32:46
He's getting beat sometimes to, to the outside or inside, and overall
32:50
from my eyes, kind of wobbly.
32:52
Just less than I expect from Abe Lucas.
32:55
And I think Cross has had some warts, but overall I think he's been our
33:00
best, li- in lineman as well.
33:03
The other side of it is Abe to me, it's like he, to me he's been probably the
33:07
largest disappointment so far in this offensive line, and is, and probably
33:11
the biggest thing I did not expect.
33:13
So Phil, that's where I'm going, dude.
33:15
It's like I want not only a clean game, but a powerful game- Mm … and
33:20
in the ru- in, in the run, and a clean game in the pass protect.
33:24
And I think it's been wobbly.
33:25
All right.
33:27
Clinton's calling out Abe.
33:28
How about you, Brandan?
33:29
How would you like to see the O line improve in this one?
33:32
Yeah, I would just like to see Zach Allen not have an impact
33:37
on this, on this game at all.
33:39
Ooh.
33:39
And, so if I'm gonna have if I'm gonna put my number one
33:43
hope at the tippy top- Yeah
33:44
it's that he, he, he's not involved.
33:47
And I don't have a lot of hope that they can get to that.
33:51
But- Yeah … it's, it is my number one because that is the guy that
33:56
has the potential to wreck the offensive line and make this a
34:01
very difficult day for Sam Darnold.
34:03
And if Allen's winning, do you want us just to play safe and hope
34:06
the defense can, win the game?
34:09
What, how, how…
34:10
Like, let's say Allen is dominating our O line.
34:12
Yeah.
34:12
Is, what, how would you pivot if you're Fleury in that particular case?
34:16
Like, let's just go quick passes, outside runs?
34:20
I would go quick passes over the middle.
34:23
Alex Singleton's one of the guys that other teams have
34:26
been targeting this season.
34:28
Yeah.
34:28
He's allowed 21 receptions for 248 yards.
34:32
That's the second most, among linebackers.
34:36
And, and just their defense in general over the middle I think is, …
34:42
Yeah, they're allowing 11.8
34:44
yards per attempt on throws over the middle so far.
34:47
So, that's compared to the outside where it's, it's very, it's
34:53
been very difficult to get yardage.
34:54
So I think going over the middle and- Yeah … is the way to go against this defense.
34:59
And be super safe.
35:00
Yep, I'm fine with that.
35:02
Yeah.
35:02
Okay.
35:03
Well, so we know that- Especially if Hufanga's out because he's the guy that
35:07
when you go over the middle you worry about your dude getting blown up by.
35:09
He's the problem.
35:10
Mm, yeah.
35:10
Yeah, there'll be less hospital ball likelihood with this one.
35:13
Yeah.
35:13
Singleton seems like a good tackler, but not, he's not making
35:17
plays on balls in the air, right?
35:19
Is- That, that's my takeaway too.
35:21
I've, I've always liked Singleton, and, I, I was a little bit surprised
35:25
to see that stat, to be honest.
35:27
Well, we have one left, so we're miles ahead of you.
35:30
I guess I know exactly what, you're gonna pick here, Brandan.
35:33
Miles ahead.
35:34
Let's go to our head coaches, speaking of that.
35:37
Brandan, so far Coach Macdonald has a head start over Sean Payton
35:40
on calling plays this year.
35:42
What if you explain your expectations in this head versus head competition?
35:48
I mean, heads like they're brains, and heads like head coaches going
35:51
right at it in this matchup.
35:53
Yeah.
35:54
It's…
35:54
This is a, a wild one with Sean Payton taking over the
35:58
play calling for the offense.
36:01
And then I, I go back to those sustained drives that I talked about when we
36:08
discussed quarterbacks because I would have expected that Sean Payton…
36:13
They, they haven't gotten, they haven't had a scoring drive for
36:17
their opening drive, the Broncos haven't, since December of last year.
36:21
Wow.
36:21
So the, the fact that they ha- they've been unable to really rally for an opening
36:26
score, I, I think that that just- It makes it so critical, especially when you
36:33
look at their fourth quarter performance, that you are up by multiple scores going
36:40
into that fourth quarter because whether or not they just turn on the gas or it's
36:46
because visiting players are gassed out, and that's kind of been a focus because
36:51
our Seahawks players, there's quite a few of them who have never played in
36:53
Denver and haven't had that experience.
36:56
So I would really, I think the, the, the critical part to this,
37:02
using one of the phrases from the question, is that our Seahawks get
37:06
a head start- Mm-hmm … in terms of points going into the fourth quarter.
37:10
Yeah.
37:10
I, that's definite.
37:12
And how do you think Coach Mike might pull that off if we need this head
37:15
start going into the fourth quarter?
37:17
How do you think Coach Mike's gonna outdo Sean Payton in their head v.
37:20
head matchup, Clinton?
37:22
Well, speaking of getting ahead, and q- kind of quieting down what can
37:27
be a really big crowd at whatever they call the place now, Mile High, you know,
37:30
we al- we all know it as Mile High.
37:32
And, was lis- listening to a Broncos podcast today, and their take
37:36
was, man, that place was quiet as can be, that for three quarters, the, I
37:42
think the phrase they used was, "You could hear a rat piss on cotton," which
37:46
was, which was, never heard that one.
37:48
That's pretty good.
37:49
so but they obviously can get into the game as well.
37:53
So can we, we keep talking a little bit about how we, how, how we probably
37:57
need to play it safe and play it safe and be a little cautious, and
38:00
I understand that's the The kind of, quote-unquote, "right reaction."
38:07
But I also think playing it safe against the Broncos from Macdonald's perspective
38:10
and Fleury's perspective can get you into a low-scoring game in the fourth quarter
38:16
on the road, and it's gonna be cold also.
38:19
You know, 42 degrees is a cold day.
38:21
I don't love that recipe.
38:23
I don't wanna look up and be like, "Oh, it's, " I don't know,
38:26
"16-14 heading into the fourth," or midway through the fourth.
38:29
No, thank you.
38:30
So I know the propensity and the, "Hey, we need to be safe or we need to be quick."
38:36
I get all that.
38:37
But could I interest you in 10-0 Seattle?
38:40
Going into the fourth.
38:41
Yeah, if there's a zero with the Broncos, y- you could interest me in that.
38:44
But remember, the Broncos were down 16-nothing to the- That's
38:48
true … Los Angeles Rams at halftime.
38:50
Mm-hmm.
38:50
And then they won the game.
38:51
Yeah, that's right.
38:51
so what I'm more interested in is can we be, can we still be
38:56
explosive, can we still be explosive and not turtle up too, too much?
39:01
Yeah.
39:01
Because we don't have the running backs to kinda lean on and rely on.
39:04
We're not pass blocking great.
39:06
It's okay, it's not great, so we're not getting explosives from
39:09
our running backs because we're just not, the talent's not there.
39:12
Can we be explosive early and take advantage that this team, the Broncos, are
39:17
very hurt in their, in one of their core areas where they're actually quite good?
39:21
We, and we talked about that all, all time, all, all, this whole game long.
39:24
So to add on to Brandan's point, man, can we just get into the fourth quarter
39:28
with a healthy 13, 14-point lead as we enter the fourth, and not get into this
39:35
tit for tat of conservatism- Mm-hmm … in the fourth quarter on the road?
39:39
So if I'm Macdonald and I'm talking to Fleury- I think you gotta live with
39:44
a little bit more risk than we've been talking about so far, guys But
39:46
the, the thing is, is they haven't been turning the ball over when
39:49
they're trying to be re- Explosive
39:53
risk-taking.
39:53
That's right.
39:54
Yeah.
39:54
Or, and, and make explosive plays.
39:55
They've been getting- they've been turning the ball over when they've
39:58
been trying to be risk-averse.
40:00
Short- Well, I mean, both, both ways though, right?
40:03
I mean, so both ways, the shots are Arroyo, the try to Arroyo.
40:06
It's not that it's a huge risk, it's not huge downfield but, you know- Yeah
40:09
it's a shot to a title.
40:10
That's the one.
40:11
I- okay.
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But if we can have the turnovers be down there on the other
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end of the field, so what?
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But if it's because I'm holding onto the ball and I fumble it,
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I don't love that, you know?
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Or the- that's- that kind of stuff can't happen in this game.
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We can't fumble because fumble just gives away points.
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Yeah.
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Long distance picks, you might get the ball punted back to you.
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You can't fumble.
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Can't.
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Yeah.
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I love what Lisa's saying here, Whistlejacket on screen, saying
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that she, she wants Mike to dial up some Flores-style madness
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to con- to confound Nix.
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Okay.
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And that's a, you know, a great point.
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We absolutely can.
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yeah, he's, he's confoundable, if that, if that is such a word, right?
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So it can be done.
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But yeah, we gotta remember, Flores is blitzing, I think, at, like,
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90% rate at some, some instances.
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I don't think Mike is gonna do that, nor does he need to go that freaking crazy
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to, to get the result we're after.
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And the defense can score on this team by getting after Bo.
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There's def- you know, could get us into good positions for scoring.
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So that kind of, that kind of somewhat risk I'm down with as well.
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What I meant by risk-averse in fumbling is let's hold onto the ball
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when we're a running back, not try to make huge plays by getting reckless,
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and as a quarterback, let's not hold onto the ball, let's release the ball
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so that we can't get sack fumbles.
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I- Mm-hmm … that kind of risk-averse we could improve in, right?
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I agree.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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Okay, we are gonna get to your wishes, your what if Super Hawks,
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but first, from the Discord we have our from the Flock wishes.
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There's a magic wishing well.
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Brandan, how do people get a chance to drop these wishes into the magic wishing
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well that goes from the Discord to Lumen and then out to Phil's iPad somehow?
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Yeah, if you can't make it to the Flockers wishing well there outside Lumen
41:54
Field, you can go to getintheflock.com.
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You can help support the show.
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You can get into our Discord for five bucks a month, and we have
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this, what if channel that you can drop your wishes into.
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And we got a lot.
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We have Witherfork, "Win the catfishing turnover battle."
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That would win for us.
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Sabin's Sint Studio, "Wish no fumbles by running backs."
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Yes.
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RightHandDan, "An opening drive that actually has points at the end."
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Sounds good.
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Sabins has another one, "Tory Horton gets more snaps than Shaheed
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or more wide receiver snaps."
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I- that, we could go for that.
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Carly, "Sam looks like the guy who won us a Super Bowl again."
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I like that.
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Sabins- Mm … is going again, "Sam Darnold- Throw no INTs.
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Gornish, four yards or more per carry from the running backs.
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That's okay.
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Zero fumbles per game, and then I don't care what the yards per carry are.
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Sabins, we shut out the donkeys and humiliate Sean Payton bunny.
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PFF eats humble pie and finally gives Murph the 100 rating he
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deserves, even if he has to break the scale and play at 111 to get it.
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Hmm.
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Interesting.
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Godzirwa, no Holani, more Horton, more Beau Stephens.
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HolyCatfish says, zero turnovers lost by the offense and special teams combined.
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Yokai has three.
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Number one, cohesive O-line play.
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Sam versus Drew does not matter with this OL version, is his opinion.
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Wish two, displaying tough love to Fleury.
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And the O for destroying their points against league ranking.
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Number three, speedy and cohesive kick return coverage.
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Coach J is on notice.
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Then we have Josh.
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Offensive line holds up so the run game can function and Darnold is not pressured
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as much so that he can feel comfortable in the pocket and execute plays.
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I like that.
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I would also like Sam to not allow himself to be pressured by holding
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onto the ball longer than anyone else.
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Jeremy, wish we get the tight ends more involved.
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I thought Fleury was a tight ends coach.
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Come on, man.
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And then we get playoff Sam, not New York Jets Sam.
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Oh, that's a, that's cold, but, it's, it's icy cold for a reason.
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Little cold.
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Any favorites standing out to you there, Brandan?
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Yeah, I'm with Jeremy.
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The getting the tight ends involved is, is gotta be the number one for
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me, and I, I feel like it's, we're now going into week six, and I've,
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I've only felt satiated by the amount of tight end use w- one time against
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that Washington Commanders defense, and that ended up resulting in a loss,
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but I, I wanna see us get it in a win.
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Yeah, that sounds fantastic.
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Clinton, how about you?
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Do any of these pop out to you?
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You have many wishes.
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Yes, I love the idea of Byron Murphy, playing at 111%,
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above it, whatever that is.
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I w- would've made it 112%, just saying.
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But, but overall, I love the idea of Byron Murphy continuing
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to earn his recognition, not just like, "Oh, cool, you're one of the
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best in the game," and you don't have to show it every single week.
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No, no, no, no.
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You're as, you're as crazy and disruptive as you are week in, week out, and
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everybody's taking notice with these beautiful- Mm-hmm … uniforms under the
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bright lights in Thursday Night Football.
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Would love that for Murph.
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Yeah, he's going to.
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He dominates.
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This is time for our host What If Super Hawks, been doing
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pretty good on these this year.
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We need a good one here this week, and Clinton gets to select his wish first.
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Yeah, so I, you know, guys, I often like to come up with a number
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and say, "I think this number matters," and sometimes I'm right.
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this time, what I want, I think this will do it.
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It's like if this happens, then I think not only do we win, but I think
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we have a collective breath to take.
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I want Sam Darnold at 70% completion rate.
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And you know that, and I'm not gonna put a high number, like how many attempts,
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this, that, and the other thing.
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The game will play out the way the game plays out.
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70% or higher completion rate, I think that means we get what we want
45:58
from our quarterback I like that.
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70, yeah, his completion's down to, like, 65 this year or something.
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It's a little lower than it has been.
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Yep.
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and he's not really trying to push the ball down like he has in the past either.
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So that, that's something I think's gonna come around.
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I'm hoping you're right.
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I, I think Fleury, I don't think Fleury and Sam need to
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dissolve an older marriage yet.
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I think they can work through, a little bit of counseling,
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get in the room together.
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work through some ideas.
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And I think they're gonna get on page and get the chemistry going here
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pretty soon, and I hope it's this.
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Hope it's tomorrow night.
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Yes.
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Brandan, how about you?
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Yeah.
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I think it's a little early to, to worry about that marriage between
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the coach and offensive coordinator.
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But, since, Clinton went with the offensive side, I'm gonna
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go over to the defense and make Nick Emmanwori my What If SuperHawk.
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He is back.
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He is fully healthy.
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He played almost 95 or at least 95% of the snaps- Geez … last
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week against the Niners.
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And so, a, a nice big game from Nick Emmanwori, who can, he can
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be on the field, whether or not they're running the football, whether
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or not they're passing the football.
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And so I will say, two tackles for a loss by Nick Emmanwori.
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Two TFLs for Nick Emmanwori.
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I like it.
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Love it.
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I like it a lot.
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I think there's a great chance of, both of these happening.
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You've each taken one the last couple weeks, so Clinton keeps his
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narrow lead on picking these games.
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He's up three to two.
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Clinton has to go first this week, though.
47:37
Clinton has to go first.
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How, what do you expect for a score in this matchup?
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Oh, I expect it to be closer than I want it to be, is, is what I expect.
47:45
And I, I go back every single week.
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I'm like, "We're gonna blow the, I think we're gonna blow the
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Niners out," and then we don't.
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and, "We're gonna blow the Command," and then we don't.
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so I just think it's gonna be closer.
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And yeah, I don't know.
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At some point, guys, I think Payton is, again, not gonna do the same old thing
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and be like, "He, I can get away with this like I did versus the Chargers,"
48:05
'cause they got away with that.
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They got away with that win because it's the Chargers.
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And I think Sean Payton's smart enough to be like, "Ain't gonna work here.
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I need to change.
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I need to change this week."
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With all that being said, whew, 20 20-19 Seahawks?
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Ooh.
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One day it's all gonna come together and we're gonna blow somebody out here soon.
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But it might- I hope it's tomorrow.
48:28
It'd be great … it might be after we get our mini bye.
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Maybe that'll be the time that, Brian and Sam get together.
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Or this could be the one where it's like, we're just going with the simple stuff,
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and we're just doing the simple stuff, and we have a really cohesive offense.
48:41
I would love it.
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I like this 43 to 8 Hawks.
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I, I feel like- Yeah … the Seahawks and Denver, there's something about those
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t- two teams that just screams 43-8.
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So TR Pearson in the chat ha- makes a fantastic point.
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Brandan, how about you?
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20 to 19 is what, Clinton has said.
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He gives you no room.
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He gives you no room to win with a close score and still pick the Hawks.
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No, I'm, I'm, I'm leaning more toward a blowout in this one, gentlemen,
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because I think that, Sean Payton, he, he's, he's in a difficult spot
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going up against the Seahawks defense.
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And I know that there's been a lot made about, oh, the Seahawks in the red
49:19
zone, the defense has not been great.
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this is the week, guys, that our Seahawks defense does
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not allow a touchdown, even if they get to the red zone.
49:31
So, we see the Broncos with four field goals, field goals- getting
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12 points, and our Seahawks score 21.
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21-12.
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That'll do.
49:45
I love both of those numbers.
49:46
You got the, the 21, which is the reverse 12, and then the 12.
49:50
Both of those numbers- It's 12 … look beautiful on a Mile
49:52
High Stadium scoreboard, I think.
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they're not 43-8, but I'll be totally happy with them.
49:57
And yeah, Thursday night's crazy.
50:01
And with Clinton predicting a one-point victory, it, it benefits
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me in no way to predict anything more than a, a double- Two point
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digit blowout.
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It's true.
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yeah.
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I mean, you coulda just, you coulda just totally went for two-point victory and
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just guaranteed that if we won by one- I did not wanna Price Is Right Clinton.
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I appreciate that.
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That's funny.
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Yeah.
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That's very good.
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Just kinda what you thought.
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And, and there's good reason to think that we can keep them out of the end zone.
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I have no idea what's gonna happen in this game.
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It can go so many ways.
50:27
Thursday nights are crazy.
50:28
Thursday nights are crazy.
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Is, is Adam going to this game?
50:31
I thought I heard one of you was going.
50:32
We, we were planning on it, and then, one of our buddies ended
50:36
up canceling, and the Airbnb ended up being something we could cancel,
50:40
and then- Stuff, stuff, stuff.
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Yeah.
50:42
Yeah.
50:42
Mm-hmm.
50:42
One of our, one of our Discord members said he could use the tickets, so- Okay
50:46
… we're, we're gonna do that, and, and, save ourselves a, a trip to Denver.
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And I, 'cause I'm going to Seattle this weekend anyway.
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Oh.
50:55
So I was gonna have to drive, then fly, and then, yeah, it was,
50:58
it was- And walking 500 miles-
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and then walking 500 more- Yeah … just to be the man doesn't feel like-
51:03
Yeah … the man you wanna be.
51:04
Yeah, so I'm gonna miss, hanging out with all the little Flockers in
51:08
Denver, because man oh man, I think they're gonna be in for a really fun
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game against this Denver Broncos team.
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Yeah, fully, extremely excited about it, guys.
51:19
And, it's just, again, I look at the whole thing as this silver lining blessing
51:25
that we got this game on a short week.
51:27
We could put the rivalry game, it's now behind us.
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It now s- doesn't matter.
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It's just a loss right now.
51:33
And just go get right.
51:34
Go…
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And it, it doesn't have to be as, like a, like a full on, oh my gosh, we dominated
51:39
every single aspect of the game, but we could leave tomorrow and be like, "Cool.
51:44
We're four and two.
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We played a solid overall game.
51:47
We beat a good NFL team, and we're right where, we are right where we
51:51
wanna be to get into that, like, second third of the year," you know?
51:55
That is what I'm gearing up for, guys, is just a crisp, a crisp
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night, 43 degrees at Mile High.
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How about a- 43.
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I like 43.
52:05
Yes, I know.
52:06
How about a crisp outing?
52:07
And if, boys, if we do get a 43 to eight victory, well, drinks are on me.
52:12
Oh.
52:14
Yeah, okay.
52:15
I, I'm into that.
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Yeah, I- Any final thoughts, by you, Phil, before we,
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I'll be right where I wanna be.
52:19
We have a high school soccer match on Thursday, four minutes from my house,
52:23
so I'm having the team over for- Oh
52:24
hot dogs and ice cream to watch it.
52:26
One of my players is a huge 49er fan, so he's just gonna show up to hate on
52:30
the, on the Seahawks, but that's okay.
52:31
We can all, like, kick him and dog pile.
52:34
So- We won't go over the top, but it should be a fun time, and, we're
52:38
gonna crank up the fun watching the game.
52:40
We'll have to catch up to everybody, 'cause we'll start probably 45 minutes
52:43
late, but then we'd have to watch the dumb, over and over- Like halftime
52:46
repetitive, Commercials … Peyton Manning commercials.
52:49
Like, we can just skip all of those.
52:51
So- Nice … it's fine with us.
52:53
Good.
52:53
Texas- Well, JO in chat saying, "Mike Mack, three and one
52:56
on Thursday night football."
52:58
That makes me feel a little better.
53:00
Mm.
53:01
A little bit.
53:01
Let's, let's march that to 401, guys.
53:04
Let's get our Seahawks to four and two as, hopefully, we
53:07
have a repeat of 43 to eight.
53:10
Let's do it.
53:11
I think with that- There's only one thing left to say.
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Go Hawks.
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Go Hawks.
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Win this by a mile, please