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Raptor T1 Meets The Desert · In Wheel Time Podcast

• 0:05
  Don Armstrong: It's the Unwheel Time Car Talk Show just ahead.
• 0:08
  Don Armstrong: Matt Martelli and the new Ford Raptor.
• 0:11
  Don Armstrong: Yep.
• 0:12
  Don Armstrong: Racetruck.
• 0:13
  Don Armstrong: Jeff has the crews in at Events Calendars.
• 0:15
  Don Armstrong: Plus, we'll have this week's top automotive news stories.
• 0:18
  Don Armstrong: Howdy, along with Mike Out of This World Mars.
• 0:21
  Don Armstrong: We always need more Jeff Seekin.
• 0:23
  Don Armstrong: David Ainsley is vacationing in the UP of Michigan.
• 0:28
  Don Armstrong: And he called in earlier.
• 0:31
  Don Armstrong: Just to take the screwdriver and put it in just a little bit further.
• 0:35
  Don Armstrong: Trick turn.
• 0:36
  Jeff Dziekan: I thought he was calling in sick for a minute, but I he didn't sound he didn't sound sick.
• 0:39
  Jeff Dziekan: Well he is sick.
• 0:40
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, he's sick.
• 0:41
  Don Armstrong: There is that.
• 0:49
  Mike Marrs: On the porch, watching the boats go.
• 0:51
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 0:52
  Don Armstrong: That.
• 0:53
  Don Armstrong: Anyway, so that's what he's doing.
• 0:55
  Don Armstrong: I'm Don Armstrong.
• 0:56
  Don Armstrong: Glad you could join us today.
• 0:57
  Don Armstrong: Let's get right to it and let's talk to Matt Martelli and the debut of the Ford Raptor T1 at the Casey Folks Vegas Torino Run.
• 1:08
  Don Armstrong: Right.
• 1:09
  Don Armstrong: Well, good morning to you, Matt.
• 1:10
  Don Armstrong: It's good to see you.
• 1:11
  Don Armstrong: Good to talk to you.
• 1:12
  Don Armstrong: And um, let's find out first of all about you.
• 1:15
  Don Armstrong: Who are you and who are you with?
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:18
  SPEAKER_00: I'm the CEO of Unlimited Off-Road Racing.
• 1:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we run the American Off-Road Racing Championship, which is now the largest off-road racing championship uh in the world.
• 1:29
  SPEAKER_00: Um so pretty exciting year for us.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, like you were alluding to, the uh the uh T1 Raptor is coming to race with us, it's making its American debut.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we're really excited about that.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_00: It's a very unique vehicle, and uh we're we're excited to see what it does in our style of racing.
• 1:48
  Don Armstrong: Why did Ford decide to go with you for its American debut in this race?
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's it's interesting because these cars are what's called rally raid cars, so they're they're used to doing multi-stage events, um, usually about 300 miles per stage.
• 2:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and they have limited travel, so it means that most of the courses we we run in North America are too rough for them.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um so this particular race is very smooth.
• 2:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's a lot of graded roads and it's 550 miles.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_00: So it would effectively be the longest stage that any one of these vehicles has ever run consecutively in one day.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so they saw it as a really good opportunity to connect the dots with the European style of racing of rally raid and and the discipline that they're racing at Dakar and American off-road racing.
• 2:42
  Don Armstrong: So is the truck built for off-road racing and they were putting it on the street?
• 2:47
  Don Armstrong: Is that basically it?
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's it's racing off-road, so it's just it's built for milder conditions than what we normally race in America, like Baja.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like Baja or the Mint 400.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, the Mint 400 in particular is the roughest race we have all year, and so our vehicles have bigger tires, more horsepower, uh, more suspension.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_00: They're they're actually the only form of racing that is truly unlimited.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: If you can build it and dream it and bring it and race it, then it's on.
• 3:19
  Don Armstrong: So, this is the Ford built uh and and designed truck for this race, but it can obviously do other races as well.
• 3:28
  Don Armstrong: But they've decided that hey, we're gonna put it in this race and put it up against all of these hot rod folks for lack of a better term, and see what it does.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's really cool.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_00: The this particular car was designed by Ford in conjunction with M Sport out of Europe and was designed specifically to race the Dakar rally, um, which is you know a 14-day uh 14-stage rally that um is a lot of dunes and in some some rough terrain, but nowhere near the amount of rough terrain that we have here in the United States.
• 4:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, our deserts produce some of the most wicked conditions on the planet.
• 4:07
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, they're pretty pretty deep sand.
• 4:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Now, is this forged version maybe closer to one of their uh street spec trucks rather?
• 4:14
  Jeff Dziekan: You know, a more more accommodating uh segment of a Ford truck rather than what you're doing to it out there, more of a uh daily driver.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's a it's not, it's a specific built race vehicle.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, my guess would be about a two and a half to three million dollar car.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Oh four-wheel drive.
• 4:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, the acceleration on these things is absolutely remarkable.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they're really wicked cars.
• 4:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, but what kind of motors it got in it?
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it is running a Ford engine, the um Coyote, I believe.
• 4:47
  Don Armstrong: Oh, the kids that okay, so this is a race truck through and through, is what this is.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 4:53
  Don Armstrong: So it doesn't have an eco-boost six cylinder in it.
• 4:55
  Don Armstrong: This is the real, the real McGill.
• 4:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it is, but what's interesting is is when they're racing in Europe, they have very tight restrictions, right?
• 5:05
  SPEAKER_00: So the the the engine's restricted, the travel's restricted, the wheel size is restricted.
• 5:10
  SPEAKER_00: But when they come to America, essentially they're they're racing against our uh unlimited trucks, right?
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: Which are real unlimited vehicles.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: So, to give you an idea, like the unlimited trucks that we race are a thousand plus horsepower, they have 40-inch tires and 36 inches of wheel travel, right?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_00: So unparalleled suspension.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_00: When we talk about all different forms of racing, you know, what our vehicles do that's totally remarkable is really the suspension.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_00: They don't accelerate, they don't have the highest top speed, and they definitely don't turn like street uh race cars.
• 5:49
  Don Armstrong: So that so basically what you're saying is is that they wouldn't even know what a curb stop is in the Kroger parking lot.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: No, not even you wouldn't even feel it.
• 5:58
  SPEAKER_00: Couldn't even feel it.
• 6:00
  Jeff Dziekan: No, that's about six inches of travel, yeah.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's what's wild about our form of racing is that we measure travel in feet, not in inches, right?
• 6:10
  SPEAKER_00: So like our top trucks are three feet of travel, right?
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_00: So just really remarkable vehicles, just incredible.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, 160 miles an hour going over three to three and a half foot, you know, whoops.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there's nothing like it in the world.
• 6:26
  Don Armstrong: Matt, uh, and and I'm not trying to change the subject here, but what happened to what I considered an extremely popular venue, and that was stadium racing for trucks like this, trucks and other off-road type vehicles.
• 6:39
  Don Armstrong: What what what happened?
• 6:41
  Don Armstrong: We all went.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, it's it's great, it's a great story of uh really a great American, Mickey Thompson.
• 6:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, he started um really promoting desert racing and realized he needed to take it to the masses, so he created Mickey Thompson's short course racing, uh, you know, back in the 80s and into the 90s and really went all over the world and it was very remarkable.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_00: Unfortunately, he was assassinated.
• 7:06
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you remember that.
• 7:08
  Don Armstrong: Oh, yes, I thought so.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: But you know, still, you know, there's a lot of people that believe that the the person or the people responsible are still not figured out yet, right?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_00: So after his death, um, it kind of fell apart.
• 7:22
  SPEAKER_00: Like he was a true, not just a visionary, but he was a guy who could walk into a room and you know convince huge corporations to invest into off-road, which you know, to his credit, led to what we have today in off-road vehicles, even street vehicles.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like I can wholeheartedly tell you that without Mickey Thompson, there'd be no Ford Raptor, right?
• 7:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, there'd be no uh Bronco return, you know, uh on and on.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_00: So um it kind of lost its way, and then it it changed from stadium to kind of like a more and a bigger track outdoors racing, which we still have today.
• 7:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like the biggest track we have is Crandon in northern Wisconsin.
• 8:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they do two races there a year, and I I highly recommend if you're a motorsports enthusiast and you have the opportunity to go to Fall Crandon, turn one in Fall Crandon is probably the most spectacular thing I've ever seen on all of motorsports.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, when you have 20 plus vehicles going into one corner off camber on dirt, it's wild.
• 8:25
  Don Armstrong: Well, it's Wisconsin, my friend.
• 8:29
  Don Armstrong: Get you a few beers and some brats, and you're ready for anything.
• 8:31
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, some courage, man.
• 8:32
  Don Armstrong: Gotta get some curds.
• 8:35
  Don Armstrong: Okay, so uh, so how are you are you involved in this?
• 8:40
  Don Armstrong: But are you are you currently in Reno?
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh no, I I actually reside in San Diego.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um well, I'm sorry to hear that.
• 8:50
  Jeff Dziekan: Poor you.
• 8:51
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, poor you.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: I was born actually funny story, right?
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_00: I'm a Michigan kid.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_00: I was born in Kalamazoo, and my parents relocated in 1984, dropped us in El Cahone, which is one corner of what we call the Bromuta Triangle.
• 9:06
  SPEAKER_03: Bromuta Triangle.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_03: Hey, we're gonna expand that.
• 9:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's too good that yeah, Bromuta Triangle.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_00: So it's basically, you know, it's San Diego, uh uh Las Vegas, and Phoenix.
• 9:18
  SPEAKER_00: That's what we refer to as the Bromuta Triangle, where all the the um really the the growth of off-road culture, which was born from uh hot riding culture, right?
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: So uh you'll see a lot of crossover names and a lot of parallel people who you know took techniques that were being um you know created for making cars go faster in the 1950s and they put them in off-road.
• 9:44
  Don Armstrong: Well, I have to tell you that I mean, I'm not an off-roader, but I certainly do appreciate all of the technology that goes into those trucks.
• 9:52
  Don Armstrong: I mean, and as you said, you know, you could you could put a million horsepower into anything, but when it comes to uh the suspension work on these trucks, mainly trucks, uh, because I I know that there are other forms other than trucks, but we're focused on trucks here.
• 10:10
  Don Armstrong: To see the suspension on these, I have been fortunate enough to see that.
• 10:14
  Don Armstrong: You're going, how did somebody manage to put that pencil to paper and create create this thing that's like an elevator?
• 10:24
  Don Armstrong: I know how they did it.
• 10:26
  Don Armstrong: How do they do it, Jeff?
• 10:27
  Don Armstrong: They went, hold my beer, watch this.
• 10:32
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, that's it.
• 10:33
  Don Armstrong: It's somebody with a welder and going, you know what, we we could probably get at least another foot out of that suspension.
• 10:41
  Don Armstrong: But if we taps blue rib, it'll do it.
• 10:44
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, I mean, it's truly amazing to see how that thing works, and to think that they I know that the probably this truck is a custom chassis and all of that sort of stuff, but these guys will take an actual stock chassis, gussy it up, and somehow, some way get the suspension travel on the thing and make their own shocks, yeah, you know, yeah, uh fluids and all that.
• 11:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, it's truly amazing.
• 11:13
  Jeff Dziekan: So Ford's got this several million dollar vehicle they're bringing over here to run on your on run on your turf.
• 11:18
  Jeff Dziekan: What are some of the other teams?
• 11:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Are they do they have several million dollar vehicles or is it like a backyard kind of setup or what?
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yes and no.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's the beautiful thing about our sport in particular, is that we have the top-level teams that are the unlimited trucks, which are multi-million dollar vehicles, right?
• 11:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they're spending millions of dollars to race them every year.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_00: And then we have 28 different classes of vehicles below that, all the way down to I'd say the slowest class is still stock VW bugs.
• 11:49
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, the great thing is, unlike NASCAR or Formula One, you can still go build something in your garage with your friends, and you can come and race our races, right?
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: So, and and that's really for us, like that's very important because that's the American spirit that that spawned hot rotting, that spawned off-road, right?
• 12:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, people built all this stuff in their garages.
• 12:13
  SPEAKER_00: Now, we have a we have an industry now of race vehicles that are being built that are very remarkable and capable, you know, if you if you have the budget to go that way.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, it kind of gives a space for every budget level to come play in our in our sport.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: Great.
• 12:30
  Don Armstrong: So, what do you have, Matt?
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um I've learned something a long time ago of about um keep your money in your pocket and just go enjoy everybody else's dough.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, basically, like I if it if it flies, floats, or whatever, right?
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Then rent it, right?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so no, I I have a uh handful of UTVs, which are remarkable vehicles.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_00: If you if you've never been able to either ride in one or go um drive one, I highly recommend it.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: There's a lot of rental places all over the United States where you can go rent a Can Am or a Polaris.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we've got several of those that we use um both for fun and for the the work that we do out course marking, um, you know, several trucks, um, etc.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_00: But no, I I uh I get to enjoy racing with other people's things, which is which is the best way to do it.
• 13:28
  Mike Marrs: I feel do you ever get to ride with someone?
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um what I I'm very uh I guess I would call myself a like an off-road tech nerd, right?
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: So when there's new innovation, uh a new type of vehicle or new shock system or whatever, I I want to experience it so I can really speak to it.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, I have the luxury of of calling some of our top guys and saying, hey, um, you guys put this new engine in, it's you know, whatever, 300 more horsepower.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: I want to see what that feels like.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: Can I come and take a ride?
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: And um, most of the time they're excited to you know just share the the evolution of the technology.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: And we've had some really cool evolutions as of late.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: We've just recently um been able to have four-wheel drive vehicles um because prior to about you know 10 or 15 years ago, we couldn't get the the suspension, the four-wheel drive suspension to live, right?
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like it was um predominantly two-wheel drive vehicles, and now there's some four-wheel drive vehicles that are starting to make some headway.
• 14:35
  Don Armstrong: So, Matt, uh, when is this race?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_00: Uh this race is coming up at the first park part of August, August 12th through the 15th.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, part of the year.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be a little warm, but in the desert.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: The um the cool thing about this year is that it's the 30th anniversary, um, and we are running it backwards.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_00: So we are running Reno to Vegas, which we've never done, um, which is gonna create all sorts of additional drama because we're racing from a cooler area at elevation down to a hotter area.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so typically at the end of the race, the vehicles are pretty spent and you're trying to like you know get it to the finish line, and now you're going into the heat, so it means that the cooling fans and electrical will be running at full clip.
• 15:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it's gonna be a real test of of the mechanics um of the vehicle.
• 15:29
  Don Armstrong: So are we gonna be able to follow along during this race or how how does that work?
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: This year also, this will be the first year that we'll be live streaming it.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: So you'll be able to go and watch the entire race for free on YouTube.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as well as one of the coolest innovations that have happened lately is that um we've begun attaching Starlinks to the vehicles.
• 15:51
  SPEAKER_00: Cool.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: So now you can see in cars the entire race uh via Starlink.
• 15:57
  Don Armstrong: So what do we look up on YouTube?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, just unlimited off-road racing and uh best of the desert.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, both will have uh um the feeds for the YouTube um live stream.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if you just search for uh Vegas Sereno, it'll come up as well.
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_00: Um, pretty easy to find.
• 16:16
  Don Armstrong: Matt, it's great to talk to you, my friend.
• 16:18
  Don Armstrong: Thanks so much for all the info.
• 16:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Are we now uh a part of the Bromuta Triangle?
• 16:22
  Jeff Dziekan: Are we part of that now?
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Well, you know, it's funny is I was just up in um in Michigan and northern Michigan in uh Traverse City and in and South Haven.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, maybe we should loop this part of the country in.
• 16:34
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, well, well, we'll we'll talk about that.
• 16:38
  Don Armstrong: That's another show.
• 16:39
  Don Armstrong: Matt, thanks again.
• 16:40
  Don Armstrong: We appreciate you talking to us.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Awesome.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys.
• 16:42
  Don Armstrong: Thank you, Matt Martelli.
• 16:44
  Don Armstrong: Okay, hey, be sure and join us for our live show every week.
• 16:48
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• 16:52
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• 16:57
  Don Armstrong: Thanks for joining us.
• 16:58
  Don Armstrong: We'll back after this break.
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  Don Armstrong: It's been a great ride, and we hope to bring you more fun and adventure right here on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show.
• 18:32
  Don Armstrong: We really appreciate it for our live version of this.
• 18:35
  Don Armstrong: Um, it's time now here on the In Wheel Time Car Talk Show for our cruise in and events calendars.
• 18:41
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, we've got some headlines after that.
• 18:43
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
• 18:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh for so for next weekend, uh July 17th, Saturday, you've got the Travis County Exposition Center.
• 18:50
  Jeff Dziekan: It's the Texas heat wave out of Austin's going on next weekend.
• 18:53
  Jeff Dziekan: So enjoy that if you're out there uh take an air conditioner.
• 18:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Yep.
• 18:57
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh and then also uh Saturday, that would be started Friday, I should say, for the Texas heat wave goes to the weekend.
• 19:03
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh next Saturday is the Hempstead Watermelon Festival Car Show.
• 19:07
  Jeff Dziekan: It's a barbecue store.
• 19:08
  Jeff Dziekan: Now, this is anybody that knows Houston and Northwest Part, uh Highway 6 and 290.
• 19:14
  Jeff Dziekan: This is the old uh Lawrence Marshall lot.
• 19:17
  Jeff Dziekan: It's where they had the car dealership.
• 19:19
  Jeff Dziekan: Wait a minute, didn't he go to jail?
• 19:21
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know.
• 19:21
  Jeff Dziekan: That's not in the story, but it is Hempstead Commerce and Civic Association.
• 19:25
  Jeff Dziekan: They're going out there, it's a watermelon festival.
• 19:27
  Jeff Dziekan: Get yourself, you know, bury yourself in some of that sweet red watermelon juices and all that good stuff.
• 19:33
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh 50-50 rabble.
• 19:34
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a big event going on out there.
• 19:36
  Jeff Dziekan: So another Saturday event is the Tint World Cars and Coffee.
• 19:40
  Jeff Dziekan: Wait a minute.
• 19:41
  Jeff Dziekan: What did you just say World with an N in it?
• 19:44
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, it's a new brothel, so either way.
• 19:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Tint World 50 uh 553 South Business Interstate Highway 35.
• 19:52
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh, so Tint World Styling Centers hosts cars and coffee every Thursday.
• 19:55
  Jeff Dziekan: Saturday.
• 19:56
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh and then on Sunday, the 19th, you got the Will Rogers Memorial Center.
• 20:01
  Jeff Dziekan: This is the 35th annual Yellow Rose Classic Southwest All Ford National Car Show.
• 20:06
  Jeff Dziekan: Dang, yeah, can you get that on a bumper?
• 20:08
  Jeff Dziekan: These are only for fours that have not been recalled.
• 20:11
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh this is up in Fort Worth.
• 20:13
  Jeff Dziekan: I'm kidding.
• 20:14
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh up in Fort Worth, and it's the 35th annual.
• 20:18
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know how they count that high because they're they're up there.
• 20:21
  Jeff Dziekan: And then, of course, the uh you got the Will uh the Willis Classic Car Show coming up, and then what you talking about, Willis?
• 20:26
  Jeff Dziekan: Car meets at 403.
• 20:27
  Jeff Dziekan: So that's all going on next weekend.
• 20:29
  Jeff Dziekan: There's a lot of car shows.
• 20:30
  Jeff Dziekan: So in your community, all you got to do is Google car shows in your area, and boom, they'll pop up.
• 20:35
  Don Armstrong: You know, when we started this show, there were maybe a dozen, you know, cruise-ins over.
• 20:41
  Don Armstrong: Now there are so many, there's no way we could ever get to all of them.
• 20:46
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, you sent me a link to one this past week, and I looked into it, and there's you got to go through like 20 steps to get in anything hard concrete information.
• 20:54
  Jeff Dziekan: So uh a lot for posting.
• 20:55
  Jeff Dziekan: So if you got a car show, you want to advertise it, let us know.
• 20:59
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, exactly.
• 21:00
  Don Armstrong: All right, yeah.
• 21:01
  Don Armstrong: Um, speaking of Ford, this is a story that it just uh it's unbelievable, but it's not too far-fetched.
• 21:12
  Don Armstrong: Ready?
• 21:14
  Don Armstrong: Ford Motor Company reportedly fired an electrician earning more than$200,000 a year at the automaker's most profitable assembly plant over a$1.95 chocolate chip cookie.
• 21:28
  Don Armstrong: Kurt Crom told Shifting Gears that Ford had him escorted out of the Kentucky truck plant after accusing the 60-year-old diabetic of stealing a cookie during his overnight shift on May the 9th.
• 21:44
  Don Armstrong: Ford had a break room surveillance video, according to them, showing him getting a red failed payment screen on a self service kiosk.
• 21:56
  Don Armstrong: But Crom, who was feeling lighthearted, Headed at the time, said he successfully swiped his credit card on a second terminal before eating the cookie to raise his blood sugar level.
• 22:11
  Don Armstrong: He said, I thought this was all a joke at first.
• 22:15
  Don Armstrong: Um, he said, if you wanted to get rid of me, you could have just asked, and I'd quit.
• 22:23
  Don Armstrong: Why are you doing this over a cookie?
• 22:26
  Don Armstrong: Crom later produced a bank statement listing the$1.95 charge.
• 22:32
  Don Armstrong: Wow.
• 22:32
  Don Armstrong: And Ford eventually offered to rehire him after confirming the payment with Aramark, the vendor that operates the kiosks.
• 22:40
  Don Armstrong: But by then, Crom had already moved back to his hometown in Wisconsin, go badgers, and gotten a new job with better pay.
• 22:50
  Don Armstrong: So he's making more than 200 grand a year.
• 22:53
  Don Armstrong: We don't talk about individual cases, but there are times when we look into things and realize it could have been handled differently, according to a Ford spokesperson.
• 23:04
  Don Armstrong: When that happens, we try to rectify it.
• 23:07
  Don Armstrong: We value our employees and want to be as fair as possible.
• 23:12
  Don Armstrong: I, you know, I know a company that's just like that.
• 23:16
  Jeff Dziekan: Yeah, but I've waiting for him to say he's got a$10 billion lawsuit against Ford or something.
• 23:21
  Don Armstrong: A UAW official told Crom that Ford was changing its policy to suspend workers over suspected break room thefts rather than immediately firing them.
• 23:32
  Don Armstrong: Ford also paid Crom$28,000 for five weeks of lost wages.
• 23:37
  Don Armstrong: There we go.
• 23:38
  Don Armstrong: That's more than 14,000 times the cost of the cookie it thought he stole.
• 23:45
  Don Armstrong: Way to go.
• 23:49
  Don Armstrong: Wouldn't that be something?
• 23:51
  Don Armstrong: Drivers across the U.S., including some behind the wheel of performance vehicles, are switching from premium gasoline to regular in a search for savings as fuel prices remain elevated.
• 24:01
  Don Armstrong: This from automotive news.
• 24:03
  Don Armstrong: Between June 22nd and June 25th, daily sales of premium gasoline were down nearly 5% by volume compared to the average from February, just before the Iran War, led to a rapid spike in prices.
• 24:16
  Don Armstrong: According to data from fuel cash bank, sorry, fuel cash back app upside.
• 24:24
  Don Armstrong: Mid-grade sales were down 2%, while sales of regular were up about 10% according to the data.
• 24:30
  Don Armstrong: Regular gasoline averaged$381 a gallon as of July 3rd, while premium averaged$470 a gallon according to the AAA.
• 24:38
  Don Armstrong: That's good for a roughly 90 cent difference between the grades and all-time high.
• 24:44
  Don Armstrong: And premium prices typically stay higher for longer.
• 24:55
  Don Armstrong: Does it only take premium?
• 24:57
  Mike Marrs: No, but I mean if it did, if I put premium, it takes the regular unleaded, but that would be the difference if it was premium, like a rafter or a the big TRX or something.
• 25:06
  Mike Marrs: You know, you're talking 25-30 bucks.
• 25:09
  Mike Marrs: Yes.
• 25:09
  Mike Marrs: Every fill up.
• 25:10
  Don Armstrong: Yes.
• 25:11
  Don Armstrong: Somebody said, Well, I have to run premium in my car.
• 25:15
  Don Armstrong: No, you don't.
• 25:17
  Don Armstrong: Um, if you are a heavy right footer, then um maybe perhaps you could back off the foot just a little bit.
• 25:25
  Don Armstrong: But most modern cars today have a thing called an ECU called an electronic control unit that it knows and has uh knock sensors in the engine, that if it's not getting enough of the knock reducer uh in the fuel, i.e.
• 25:44
  Don Armstrong: premium, then it backs off the timing of the engine so you don't get engine knock, which is detrimental to engines.
• 25:54
  Don Armstrong: So you can run regular in most gasoline engines.
• 26:00
  Mike Marrs: I think even a lot of the more performance ones, it says recommended to run premium.
• 26:06
  Mike Marrs: Doesn't necessarily I don't try to remember one that says required, probably some of the Corvettes or the Hellcats or something.
• 26:12
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, if if you run a performance car from like a Hertz or an Avis, that they require you to put in the fuel that takes the car, like premium.
• 26:20
  Jeff Dziekan: They they ask you to put in and what happens if you don't?
• 26:22
  Jeff Dziekan: Well, that's just it.
• 26:23
  Jeff Dziekan: I don't know.
• 26:24
  Jeff Dziekan: Uh, because I've done that.
• 26:25
  Mike Marrs: I've that's what I'm saying.
• 26:26
  Mike Marrs: A lot of the gas caps say it's recommended, it doesn't say required.
• 26:31
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, but you know, who knows about these rent car companies, and what do they do?
• 26:35
  Don Armstrong: Give it the smell test.
• 26:36
  Don Armstrong: Oh, that's regular.
• 26:38
  Mike Marrs: Yeah, we know they pull the car around to the back to clean it up for the next guy, and there's a gas pump there, and they only got one type of gas.
• 26:45
  Mike Marrs: Exactly right.
• 26:46
  Don Armstrong: That's exactly right.
• 26:48
  Don Armstrong: I I don't okay, whatever.
• 26:50
  Don Armstrong: Whatever, but um, that's the way I see it, and uh, I'm sticking with my there you go.
• 26:55
  Don Armstrong: Yeah, uh the Corvette runs premium.
• 26:58
  Don Armstrong: I put premium in it, and uh about once or twice a year.
• 27:02
  Jeff Dziekan: We were on a search for Tecron on the trip back from Granberry.
• 27:05
  Don Armstrong: We were, and um, I finally found it, and it was ten dollars a jug, but I I I and it's funny because I went to uh a place, a Chevron Station.
• 27:18
  Don Armstrong: They didn't have Tecron.
• 27:19
  Don Armstrong: What are you talking about, boy?
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's in the gas, it's in the gas tank.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_03: We poured a can in the tank on the ground, we filled it.
• 27:27
  Jeff Dziekan: And then that was the the dex fuel I was asking questions about.
• 27:30
  Jeff Dziekan: That was another story.
• 27:32
  Jeff Dziekan: The gallon of dex fuel, how much is that?
• 27:35
  Jeff Dziekan: We'll take that's another day.
• 27:37
  Don Armstrong: Yeah.
• 27:39
  Don Armstrong: Road trips are always interesting and fun.
• 27:41
  Don Armstrong: All right.
• 27:42
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• 29:12
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• 29:21
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• 29:24
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