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Mega Edition: The Murder Of Suzanne Morphew (10/6/26) · Beyond The Horizon

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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to keep the conversation about Suzanne
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Speaker 1: Morphew going, and this time we're going to talk about
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Speaker 1: the timeline of the case. And to do that, once again,
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Speaker 1: we're going to be using the Denver Gazette. Headline, Suzanne
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Speaker 1: Morphew disappearance, a complete timeline of the case. So I
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Speaker 1: think that having something like this added to the catalog
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Speaker 1: is a good reference point for us to go and
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Speaker 1: look at so we can understand how it all transpired.
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Speaker 1: Because remember, this has happened over a period of time,
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Speaker 1: and it's been a few years now, so I think
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Speaker 1: having a refresher and something to rely on as far
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Speaker 1: as keeping the timeline straight is pretty important to understanding
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Speaker 1: what's going on and understanding it in the context that's
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Speaker 1: necessary to form a proper opinion. This article was authored
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Speaker 1: by Carol McKinley. The Colorado Bureau of Investigation stumbled on
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Speaker 1: a bombshell of forensic evidence in Sewatch County, which stunned
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Speaker 1: cold case watchers on September 22nd. Now, there's a lot
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Speaker 1: of people out there that have been following this case
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Speaker 1: from the very beginning and doing it diligently. I haven't
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Speaker 1: been following this case from the beginning, so I'm still
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Speaker 1: playing a little bit of catch up here. But going
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Speaker 1: through the documents over this weekend, the affidavit and some
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Speaker 1: of the other stuff, it's really concerning. And the fact is,
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Speaker 1: a much more robust investigation needs to occur. And hopefully
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Speaker 1: them finding these remains will be the trigger that launches
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Speaker 1: this investigation back into existence with some new eyes taking
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Speaker 1: a look at it. That day, investigators were searching for
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Speaker 1: the remains of a missing woman named Edna Quintana, who
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Speaker 1: had disappeared last May. Instead, the human bones they found
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Speaker 1: in a shallow grave belonged to Suzanne Morphew, a 49-year-old
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Speaker 1: mother of two, whose unsolved case had confounded national and
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Speaker 1: local law enforcement, citizen searchers, and YouTube podcasters. For days,
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Speaker 1: forensic teams dug up the desert ground, gathering the remains
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Speaker 1: that were scattered across a large swath of sagebrush-dotted prairie,
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Speaker 1: estimated by Sewatch County Coroner Tom Perrin to be around
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Speaker 1: 75 yards. The next Wednesday, on September 27th, the El
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Speaker 1: Paso County Coroner identified the remains as belonging to Suzanne Morphew,
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Speaker 1: who had been missing for three years and four months.
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Speaker 1: The area is adjacent to a remote highway, about a
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Speaker 1: 45-minute drive directly south of Maysville, where Morphew was last
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Speaker 1: known to be alive. Vehicle GPS coordinates and cell phone
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Speaker 1: records from her husband, Barry Morphew, cell phone, showed that
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Speaker 1: he was not in the area on May 9th or 10th, 2020,
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Speaker 1: the day that Susan Morphew first disappeared. The beleaguered investigation
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Speaker 1: of the missing Chaffee County woman was considered a cold case,
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Speaker 1: and its future hinged upon finding her body. That she
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Speaker 1: was last known to be alive in Chaffee County, but
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Speaker 1: her remains were found in a bordering county where no
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Speaker 1: one thought to look, brings up more questions about how
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Speaker 1: she died. There is no question that this whole entire
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Speaker 1: situation is riddled with a bunch of unanswered questions. And
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Speaker 1: I think that all of the questions start and stop
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Speaker 1: at this point with her husband. Now, does that mean
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Speaker 1: he murdered her?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: But if I was an investigator investigating this case, that's
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Speaker 1: where I'd be starting. An autopsy is being performed by
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Speaker 1: the El Paso County Coroner, but the results may not
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Speaker 1: be released, as they are considered to be part of
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Speaker 1: an ongoing investigation. The information in this timeline comes from
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Speaker 1: family interviews, court documents, and testimonies from Barry Morphew's preliminary
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Speaker 1: and probable cause hearings, as well as subsequent statements from
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Speaker 1: other court hearings leading up to the case being dismissed
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Speaker 1: in April of 2022. Who was Suzanne Morphew? Suzanne Mormon
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Speaker 1: and Barry Morphew's love story started where they grew up
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Speaker 1: in the all-American small town of Alexandra, Indiana, a community
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Speaker 1: surrounded by farmland an hour northeast of Indianapolis. Their relationship
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Speaker 1: started on the golf course where he worked tending the
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Speaker 1: greens during summers when he was home from college. She
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Speaker 1: lived on the first tee and was still in high school.
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Speaker 1: Morphew was a hometown sports hero who was drafted by
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Speaker 1: the Toronto Blue Jays. Suzanne, at 17, was the baby
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Speaker 1: of the family, beautiful and shy. Her father, Gene Mormon,
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Speaker 1: owned a popular root beer stand in a nearby town.
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Speaker 1: Though Gene Mormon died heartbroken in the fall of 2020
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Speaker 1: with the knowledge that his youngest child was missing, Gene's
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Speaker 1: Root Beer and Hot Dogs in Anderson, Indiana, is still
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Speaker 1: run by the Mormon family. During one of the 30
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Speaker 1: interviews his attorney, said Barry Morphew, gave to law enforcement,
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Speaker 1: he told deputies that Suzanne was his angel since she
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Speaker 1: was 17. He was arrested and charged with murder in
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Speaker 1: the case a year after she disappeared and then became
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Speaker 1: a free man when the case against him was dismissed
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Speaker 1: without prejudice in the spring of 2022. 1994. Barry and
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Speaker 1: Suzanne are married. They eventually have two daughters, Macy and Mallory.
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Speaker 2: 2018.
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Speaker 1: The Morphews move to Colorado from Indiana, hoping for a
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Speaker 1: fresh start and to be closer to their oldest daughter.
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Speaker 1: In May of that year, Suzanne's cancer, Hodgkin's lymphoma, returned. Macy,
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Speaker 1: in high school, lived at home and Mallory was away
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Speaker 1: at college. And anytime somebody gets a cancer diagnosis or
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Speaker 1: that cancer comes back, it automatically brings with it all
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Speaker 1: kinds of stress.
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Speaker 2: And how do I know? Well, I went through it.
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Speaker 1: The person I love the most in this world was
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Speaker 1: diagnosed with stage 2B breast cancer. And following that diagnosis...
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Speaker 1: Our lives have never been the same. And for people
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Speaker 1: who have never went through it, I don't think they
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Speaker 1: understand the burden that it places on a relationship a
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Speaker 1: lot of the time. Thankfully, it did the opposite with
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Speaker 1: me and Carrie, and it brought us closer. But the
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Speaker 1: struggle was real, folks. A double mastectomy, chemotherapy, radiation, all
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Speaker 1: of it. Meanwhile, you still have all the stressors of
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Speaker 1: real life and everything else that was going on prior
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Speaker 1: to the diagnosis. And if you're already having problems in
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Speaker 1: your relationship, I could see how something like this could
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Speaker 1: make it even more difficult for you to navigate. September 2018.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne's best friend, Sheila Oliver, visited Colorado. Oliver was important
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Speaker 1: to the case because Suzanne shared intimate details about her
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Speaker 1: failing marriage over text and phone calls, which investigators later
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Speaker 1: used to gain insight into her mindset during her last
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Speaker 1: two years. Since Suzanne's cell phone is still missing, they
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Speaker 1: found their conversations on Oliver's phone and through Morphew's iCloud account.
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving 2018. Suzanne visited Oliver in Indiana. February 2019. Suzanne
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Speaker 1: Morphew and Jeff Libler, a high school friend, started talking
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Speaker 1: over text. September 2019. Suzanne increasingly confided in Oliver about
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Speaker 1: leaving her marriage to Barry. I sort of wish he
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Speaker 1: would just get fed up with me and leave, she
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Speaker 1: wrote of her husband. I told him I'm done.
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Speaker 2: I need peace.
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Speaker 1: And this is a big deal, in my opinion. The
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Speaker 1: fact that they were having marital problems, the fact that
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Speaker 1: she was talking with somebody else, certainly could provide motive
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Speaker 1: for her husband to want to kill her. And when
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Speaker 1: we're looking at stuff like this, we want to find motive, obviously.
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Speaker 1: Can't just run around saying this one did this or
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Speaker 1: this one did that with no evidence. But if there's motive, well,
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Speaker 1: that puts things in a different perspective if you're an investigator.
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Speaker 1: Valentine's Day, 2019. Suzanne Morphew and Jeff Libler's relationship became
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Speaker 1: more than platonic. They met up in New Orleans on
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Speaker 1: While he was there for a conference, after that, they
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Speaker 1: continued to connect over LinkedIn and WhatsApp and met in
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Speaker 1: person several more times. Barry Morphew told investigators later that
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Speaker 1: he did not know about the affair. Well, that would
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Speaker 1: be a convenient thing to say, huh? Yeah, I had
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Speaker 1: no idea, man. I don't know what she was up to.
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Speaker 1: I was going to work. Meanwhile, bro knows exactly what's
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Speaker 1: going on and he's hatching his plan. February 2nd, 2020.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne and Oliver met up for a girls' Super Bowl weekend.
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Speaker 1: February 4th, 2020. Suzanne talked with Sheila about getting out
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Speaker 1: of her marriage. She never mentioned Libler to anyone. Later
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Speaker 1: February 2020. Suzanne and Libler connected in Florida while she
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Speaker 1: was visiting with her father. May 6th, 2020. Four days
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Speaker 1: before Suzanne Morphew was reported missing. 10.17 a.m. This is
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Speaker 1: the moment when Suzanne let Barry know their marriage was over.
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Speaker 1: Text messages from Suzanne obtained from Barry's phone said, I'm done.
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Speaker 1: I could care what you have been up to for years.
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Speaker 1: We just need to figure this out civilly. And when
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Speaker 1: you have two kids, that is the proper way to
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Speaker 1: go about it, right? In a civil manner. The last
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Speaker 1: thing you want to have is all kinds of animosity,
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Speaker 1: all kinds of poo-pooing on your husband or wife's name,
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Speaker 1: all the stuff that comes with the animosity of a divorce.
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Speaker 1: So according to this message, Suzanne was looking to avoid
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Speaker 1: all of that. 3.51 p.m. Barry texted Suzanne, I promise
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Speaker 1: you were wrong about all the crazy thoughts about me.
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Speaker 1: Only a fool would stray from an angel like you.
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Speaker 1: When I'm dead, which won't be long, you guys will
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Speaker 1: be taken care of. Oh, he's one of them, huh?
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Speaker 1: When I'm dead, when I'm gone, wah, wah, wah. Anyone
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Speaker 1: who's out here talking like that is a piece of work,
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Speaker 1: and you can miss me with the whole entire woe-is-me
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Speaker 1: sob story. Thursday, May 7th. Suzanne and Libler texted a
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Speaker 1: lot that day. Barry and Suzanne have pizza and look
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Speaker 1: at houses around town. She described the evening to Libler
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Speaker 1: later as a fine, quiet night. Friday, May 8th.
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Speaker 2: 7.02 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne saved on her cell phone notes application a list
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Speaker 1: of grievances, which were her reasons to leave her marriage.
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Speaker 1: One of those said that Barry accused her of having
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Speaker 1: a boyfriend. Another said, act like I'm intruding in the garage,
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Speaker 1: which an investigator who interviewed Barry later testified meant that
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Speaker 1: he thought she had cameras in the garage. Look, if
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Speaker 1: you ever get to that point in your relationship, it
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Speaker 1: is time to go. The second you can't trust the
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Speaker 1: person that you're laying down with at night every single night.
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Speaker 1: I think it's time to reevaluate what you're doing. And
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Speaker 1: that's exactly what Suzanne was trying to do here and
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Speaker 1: trying to get away from her husband. 9.28 a.m. Suzanne
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Speaker 1: texted her sister Melinda about how hard it was dealing
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Speaker 1: with the harsh abrasiveness and showing respect. Melinda told detectives
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Speaker 1: later that she didn't know what to say. 10 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne and Barry had a series of phone calls, which
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Speaker 1: ended when Barry texted, I love you, Suzanne, Saturday, May 9th, morning.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne texted Libler, we need to be husband and wife,
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Speaker 1: in one of 59 text messages exchanged between the two
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Speaker 1: that day, 11.30 a.m. Barry came home for lunch and
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Speaker 1: left to change the blade to his bobcat, 2.07 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne sent a selfie to Libler, It is the last
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Speaker 1: known moment that she was alive. Barry returned home, and
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Speaker 1: his phone showed that he was moving around outside of
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Speaker 1: the house. In an interview months later, he explained to
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Speaker 1: prosecutors that he was shooting chipmunks. Shooting chipmunks, huh? Sounds
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Speaker 1: like what Chad Daybell had to say about what was
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Speaker 1: going on on his property. And at this point, folks,
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Speaker 1: we've been doing this long enough around these parts on
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Speaker 1: this podcast. to recognize some BS when it's being shoveled
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Speaker 1: our way, 6.40 to 6.48 p.m. Oliver told investigators she
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Speaker 1: tried to reach Suzanne that day, sending three Snapchat messages
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Speaker 1: between 6.40 and 6.48 p.m.
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Speaker 2: With no luck.
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Speaker 1: 9.24 to 9.52 p.m. Telematics showed that the doors of
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Speaker 1: Barry Morphew's truck opened and closed.
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Speaker 2: Over and over.
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Speaker 1: 9.25 p.m. Telematics showed the gears went into reverse, the
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Speaker 1: truck back 96 feet to the edge of the driveway.
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Speaker 1: Sometime that night, Suzanne's Facebook codes were reset and people
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Speaker 1: started friending her there. She gained 23 total friends from Indiana,
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Speaker 1: 20 of whom were men. May 9th, May 10th, 2.47 p.m.
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Speaker 1: until 4.37 a.m.
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Speaker 2: May 10th.
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Speaker 1: Barry's phone went into airplane mode, a setting on cell
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Speaker 1: phones that prevents the device from sending or receiving calls
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Speaker 1: and text messages. Agent Johnny Grusing told the court during
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Speaker 1: the fall 2021 probable cause hearing that this was six hours.
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Speaker 2: We don't know what happened.
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Speaker 1: Senior Deputy District Attorney Jeff Lindsay asked Grusing if this
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Speaker 1: was enough time to dispose of a body. Yes, Grusing
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Speaker 1: said he would have had six hours.
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Speaker 2: That would be three hours round trip.
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Speaker 1: Look, there's no doubt that that's plenty of time to
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Speaker 1: dispose of this body, especially considering where the remains were found. Now,
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Speaker 1: am I saying that that's what happened?
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: But all the signs are pointing towards a certain direction,
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Speaker 1: and in that direction is a certain someone. It's an
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Speaker 1: important point. During probable cause hearings, Morphew's attorneys say there
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Speaker 1: was no blood and no DNA in Morphew's truck, which
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Speaker 1: never left the driveway, and that the ground was frozen. Somehow,
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Speaker 1: in this airplane, off time, Barry has means and time
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Speaker 1: to dispose of a body, said Sean Connolly. May 10th,
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Speaker 1: 325 a.m., 352 a.m. Doors of Morphew's truck were opened
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Speaker 1: and closed multiple times. 423 a.m. Suzanne's phone pinged for
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Speaker 1: the last time. The cell phone has never been found.
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Speaker 1: 430 a.m. Barry told investigators he woke up. 5 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Barry told police he left for Broomfield to fix a
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Speaker 1: retaining wall for his landscaping company. He said he left
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Speaker 1: Suzanne sleeping soundly in their bedroom. He was the last
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Speaker 1: known person to see his wife alive. 5.38 a.m. Barry
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Speaker 1: texted his mother, Happy Mother's Day. 6.56 a.m. Barry was
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Speaker 1: near Bailey on his way to the Broomfield job. 8.41 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Barry told police he tried texting Suzanne Happy Mother's Day
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Speaker 1: and got no response, but added that this was not
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Speaker 1: unusual because cell service was spotty around the Morphew home. 8.10 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Morphew arrived in Broomfield and soon after, surveillance cameras and
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Speaker 1: truck data showed him throwing trash away at various places
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Speaker 1: in Broomfield.
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Speaker 2: 8.35 a.m.
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Speaker 1: Surveillance video from a hotel showed Barry walk through the
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Speaker 1: front doors. 8.41 a.m. Barry texted Suzanne that he made
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Speaker 1: it to Broomfield and asked her to call him when
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Speaker 1: she got a chance.
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Speaker 2: You up? Happy Mother's Day. I love you.
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Speaker 1: 10.10 a.m. Barry left the hotel. During that morning, he
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Speaker 1: visited a McDonald's and threw out something small, which he
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Speaker 1: told police.
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Speaker 2: Later was wrappers.
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Speaker 1: He then visited a car wash and a men's warehouse
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Speaker 1: store where he throws away more trash. He also visited
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Speaker 1: the work site where he was to repair a retaining
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Speaker 1: wall for around 20 minutes, but didn't follow through because
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Speaker 1: work was prohibited on Sundays. So he's at all these
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Speaker 1: different places throwing out all this trash. I mean, that's
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Speaker 1: not suspicious or anything, right? Just very normal. 12.42 until 5.55 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Surveillance video showed that Barry did not leave his hotel room.
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Speaker 2: 3.30 p.m.
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Speaker 1: Barry texted Suzanne to call him. 5.15 p.m. Neighbor Gene
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Speaker 1: Ritter called Barry to let him know that Suzanne was missing.
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Speaker 1: Her bicycle was gone, but her Range Rover was in
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Speaker 1: the garage. Their daughters, Mallory and Macy, were on a
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Speaker 1: road trip with one of Mallory's friends and were not
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Speaker 1: getting responses to their Happy Mother's Day communications.
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Speaker 2: 5.38 p.m.
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Speaker 1: District Attorney Investigator Alex Walker was informed that Suzanne is missing.
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Speaker 1: As evening fell, deputies arrived at the Morphew home and
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Speaker 1: discovered Suzanne's bike with colorful pedals down a ravine near
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Speaker 1: the home. The handlebars are twisted. So how did the
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Speaker 1: bike get into that ravine near the home? But Suzanne
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Speaker 1: ends up 40, 50 miles away from where her bike
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Speaker 1: was found. 5.45 p.m. Morphew received a second call from Ritter.
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Speaker 1: 6 p.m. Barry made several trips to his truck, bringing
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Speaker 1: in tools. around 6 p.m. Miles Harden, a friend of Macy's,
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Speaker 1: is contacted by law enforcement. He drove around and looked
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Speaker 1: for Suzanne with no luck. He told deputies that Suzanne
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Speaker 1: had never gone up the trail where her bike was
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Speaker 1: found because the gains are hard and it's a crazy climb.
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Speaker 1: So this is all staged. There's no doubt in my
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Speaker 1: mind the whole entire thing is staged. Now the question is,
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Speaker 1: who did the staging? Well, if you follow the evidence,
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Speaker 1: that leads us only to one destination. 8.46 p.m. Barry
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Speaker 1: arrived at home in his truck. He asked deputies if
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Speaker 1: they saw any cats on the road, referring to mountain lions.
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Speaker 1: They responded that they hadn't seen one recently. Monday, May 11th.
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Speaker 1: Investigators speak with Barry around 1 p.m. Suzanne was supposed
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Speaker 1: to have had a cancer treatment, but she did not
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Speaker 1: show up for the appointment. Searchers were organizing to look
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Speaker 1: for Suzanne Morphew. The second you don't show up for
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Speaker 1: your cancer treatment, Chances are something real bad has happened.
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Speaker 1: May 12th, 2020. Investigators got a search warrant for Barry's truck.
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Speaker 1: Search dogs were called in to do smell tests on
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Speaker 1: the vehicle. They found no blood inside or outside of
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Speaker 1: the truck. May 13th, 2020. Suzanne's turquoise bike helmet was
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Speaker 1: found undamaged 0.84 miles from where they found the bike
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Speaker 1: and 10 meters off of the highway. Investigators suspected she
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Speaker 1: never did take a bike ride. Her camelback and sunglasses,
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Speaker 1: which her family said she always took when she rode,
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Speaker 1: were in a Range Rover SUV still in the garage.
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Speaker 1: May 15, 2020. Evidence response team of the Denver Division
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Speaker 1: of the FBI was brought in to participate in ongoing efforts.
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Speaker 1: May 19 and 20 of 2020. NecroSearch geologists conducted ground-penetrating
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Speaker 1: radar survey and came up with nothing. July 8th, 2020.
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Speaker 1: Colorado Bureau of Investigation investigators called Barry and he invited
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Speaker 1: them over for steaks. They ate dinner together and prayed
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Speaker 1: for Suzanne. July 9th and 10th, 2020. Morphew and his
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Speaker 1: daughters were told to leave the home while investigators searched.
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Speaker 1: They found no blood inside. they found a tranquilizer dart
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Speaker 1: cap in a dryer. Later, they theorized that Barry shot
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Speaker 1: Suzanne with a tranquilizer to sedate her, an idea which
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Speaker 1: his attorneys refuted. November 2020. Investigators learned about recordings on
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Speaker 1: a spy pen that Suzanne bought and was trying to
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Speaker 1: try and catch Barry in an affair, and that it
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Speaker 1: was Suzanne who was in a sexual or love relationship
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Speaker 1: with a man named Jeff Libler. The two secretly met
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Speaker 1: six times during a year-and-a-half-long relationship. November 13, 2020 Police
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Speaker 1: spoke with Mr.
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Speaker 2: Libler.
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Speaker 1: He told law enforcement that no one knew about the relationship,
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Speaker 1: including Suzanne Morphew's closest friends and family. May 5, 2021
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Speaker 1: Barry Morphew was arrested. Barry was charged with first-degree murder,
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Speaker 1: tampering with evidence, and attempting to influence a public servant.
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Speaker 1: Suzanne's body was not recovered, but Chaffee County Sheriff John
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Speaker 1: Spezzi remarked our belief is that Suzanne is not alive
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Speaker 1: at this time. August 9th, 2021. A preliminary hearing where
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Speaker 1: prosecutors presented evidence to a judge to determine if there's
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Speaker 1: enough to send the case to trial began for Barry.
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Speaker 1: His family attended each day and his daughters, Mallory and Macy,
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Speaker 1: sat in the rows behind their father in support of him.
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Speaker 1: They communicated via eye contact and made hard hands with Barry.
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Speaker 1: Their belief in his innocence has never wavered. September 20th, 2021.
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Speaker 1: 11th Judicial District Chief Judge Patrick Murphy ruled to let
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Speaker 1: Barry out of jail on a $ 500, 000 cash-only bail. He
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Speaker 1: walked out a couple of days later after posting the amount,
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Speaker 1: flanked by his two daughters. Murphy also unsealed the arrest
22:00
Speaker 1: affidavit which laid out the prosecution's case. And I just
22:04
Speaker 1: got done reading that whole entire 147-page affidavit, and it's
22:08
Speaker 1: very disturbing. Now we have to keep in mind that
22:11
Speaker 1: those are just allegations, but they are very strong allegations,
22:15
Speaker 1: and the evidence that they're providing seems to be strong
22:18
Speaker 1: as well. December of 2021. Judge Murphy, who has presided
22:23
Speaker 1: over the case, removed himself after defense attorneys complained about
22:27
Speaker 1: a conflict of interest. February 2022. The murder trial was
22:32
Speaker 1: moved from Chaffee County to Fremont County. In a statement,
22:36
Speaker 1: officials said the move was made because of the size
22:39
Speaker 1: of the community and the pervasive negative pretrial publicity since
22:43
Speaker 1: Suzanne Morphew's disappearance. The court finds that a fair trial
22:47
Speaker 1: cannot take place in Chaffee County. This is a high-profile
22:51
Speaker 1: case in a relatively small county with a small jury pool.
22:55
Speaker 1: The media saturation is high. Soon after, 11th Judicial District
23:00
Speaker 1: Judge Ramsey Lama took over. April 19, 2022. Less than
23:06
Speaker 1: two weeks before trial, Ramsey Lama granted a motion to
23:10
Speaker 1: dismiss filed by the prosecution in the murder case against Barry.
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Speaker 1: The case was dropped without prejudice, meaning that the investigation
23:19
Speaker 1: could be revisited should new evidence surface.
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Speaker 2: May 2, 2023.
23:23
Speaker 1: Barry Morphew filed a $ 15 million civil suit against several prosecutors,
23:30
Speaker 1: Chaffee County, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, and the FBI.
23:36
Speaker 1: The lawsuit stated that Morphew was seeking damages caused by
23:40
Speaker 1: the prosecutors, Chaffee County, and law enforcement officials. September 22, 2023.
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Speaker 1: CBI investigators unearth remains in a shallow grave near Moffitt.
23:53
Speaker 1: They were looking for remains of a missing woman named
23:56
Speaker 1: Edna Quintana who disappeared May 3rd, September 25th, 2023. The
24:03
Speaker 1: El Paso County coroner identified remains found by CBI investigators
24:09
Speaker 1: as those of Suzanne three years later and four months
24:13
Speaker 1: after she disappeared. September 29th, 2023. Investigators ruled the disappearance
24:21
Speaker 1: of Edna Quintana missing and the disappearance of Suzanne as
24:24
Speaker 1: not related. CBI said Quintana's disappearance remains an open and
24:30
Speaker 1: active investigation, so no further information is available at this time.
24:36
Speaker 1: Later in the day, law enforcement said the Colorado Bureau
24:39
Speaker 1: of Investigation, the Chaffee County, and Sewatch County Sheriff's Offices
24:44
Speaker 1: have concluded their search in the area where Suzanne's remains
24:48
Speaker 1: were found.
24:50
Speaker 2: All right, folks.
24:50
Speaker 1: Well, look, that's the timeline of the Suzanne Morphew disappearance
24:55
Speaker 1: and murder. The question is, who's responsible for that disappearance
25:01
Speaker 1: and that murder? And that's going to be the question
25:03
Speaker 1: that the investigators try to figure out. And we'll be
25:06
Speaker 1: here covering it the entire time. All right, folks, that's
25:10
Speaker 1: going to do it for this one. If you'd like
25:12
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25:16
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25:24
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25:28
Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the program. Now
25:32
Speaker 1: that the remains of Suzanne Morphew have been found, the
25:35
Speaker 1: question obviously is, did her husband kill her? That's what
25:40
Speaker 1: everybody's wondering, and that's the question that everybody is asking.
25:44
Speaker 1: And after diving into the affidavit, the original affidavit for
25:47
Speaker 1: his arrest, there is some very, very concerning stuff in
25:51
Speaker 1: there about Barry Morphew and this situation. And in my opinion,
25:56
Speaker 1: there needs to be another robust look into Barry Morphew,
26:00
Speaker 1: especially considering that the circumstances have now changed and they
26:04
Speaker 1: have found the remains of his wife. Remember before, that
26:08
Speaker 1: was one of the issues. They didn't have a body.
26:11
Speaker 1: So the case originally wasn't dismissed on lack of evidence.
26:15
Speaker 1: It was dismissed on prosecutorial misconduct. They had issues during
26:20
Speaker 1: the discovery phase and that led to the dismissal. Now
26:24
Speaker 1: the judge dismissed it without prejudice so that the prosecutors
26:28
Speaker 1: could go back and refile their case later on down
26:31
Speaker 1: the road if they ever got their shit together. So
26:33
Speaker 1: I guess that's the question now, right? Do the prosecutors
26:36
Speaker 1: have their shit together? And are they going to be
26:39
Speaker 1: able to push the ball over the finish line and
26:42
Speaker 1: get some justice for Suzanne Morphew? Well, we're going to
26:45
Speaker 1: have to see. But there is going to be a
26:47
Speaker 1: spotlight on the prosecutors throughout this process, considering what happened
26:51
Speaker 1: the first time around. So they better come correct. And
26:54
Speaker 1: they better have all of their ducks in a row.
26:56
Speaker 1: Because if Barry Morphew is guilty of this, well, helicopter, volcano.
27:03
Speaker 1: Today's article is from the Denver Gazette and the headline,
27:07
Speaker 1: Suzanne Morphew's remains are found, but mystery endures, for Colorado investigators.
27:13
Speaker 1: This article was authored by Carol McKinley. Now that Suzanne
27:18
Speaker 1: Morphew's remains have been located... The three-year-plus case takes on
27:22
Speaker 1: a new life and perhaps even starts over with a
27:25
Speaker 1: new team of investigators joining the original group. And we
27:29
Speaker 1: saw over in Long Island that a new group of
27:32
Speaker 1: investigators who are taking a fresh look at things might
27:35
Speaker 1: come to a different conclusion. And we saw the same
27:38
Speaker 1: thing over there in Long Island with Rex Ewerman, right?
27:41
Speaker 1: We had that task force looking into him for how
27:44
Speaker 1: long or allegedly looking into him. And then you get
27:48
Speaker 1: the new task force that shows up They take a
27:50
Speaker 1: look at the evidence, and before you know it, they
27:53
Speaker 1: have a case. So will that be the same thing
27:55
Speaker 1: that happens here? It's very possible. And as much as
27:58
Speaker 1: I like to give people the benefit of the doubt,
28:01
Speaker 1: I'm finding it more and more difficult to do that
28:03
Speaker 1: with Barry Morphew, especially after I read the affidavit. This
28:08
Speaker 1: man has a lot of explaining to do, in my opinion. Previously,
28:11
Speaker 1: investigators from the Chaffee County Sheriff's Office, the 11th Judicial
28:16
Speaker 1: District Attorney's Office, the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, and the
28:20
Speaker 1: FBI have combed the case from the beginning to the present.
28:25
Speaker 1: Morphew's remains were found scattered in a dry high desert
28:28
Speaker 1: field south of the town of Moffitt on September 22nd.
28:32
Speaker 1: The remains are currently at the El Paso County Coroner's
28:36
Speaker 1: Office where an autopsy is being performed. according to Sawatch
28:40
Speaker 1: County Coroner Tom Perrin. The discovery of her remains in Sawatch,
28:45
Speaker 1: a bordering county to where she was originally thought to
28:48
Speaker 1: be located, brings in a new law enforcement body, namely
28:52
Speaker 1: the Sawatch County Sheriff's Office. Morphew went missing on Mother's Day,
28:57
Speaker 1: May 10, 2020. Her husband, Barry Morphew, was the last
29:01
Speaker 1: known person to see her alive, an arrest document stated.
29:04
Speaker 1: And not only that, but when you start digging into
29:07
Speaker 1: the affidavit a little bit more, you know, you hear
29:09
Speaker 1: a bunch of other stuff, stuff about relationships outside the
29:12
Speaker 1: marriage and, you know, all kinds of stuff that would
29:15
Speaker 1: certainly provide motivation for a husband to kill his wife.
29:19
Speaker 1: Her last known proof of life, a photo was a
29:22
Speaker 1: selfie she sent on May 9th at around 2 p.m.
29:25
Speaker 1: to her lover with whom she was texting. She and
29:28
Speaker 1: Jeff Libler, a high school friend she had reconnected with,
29:32
Speaker 1: it was revealed in the preliminary hearing. He lived in
29:35
Speaker 1: Michigan and produced receipts and cell phone evidence from that weekend.
29:39
Speaker 1: which showed investigators that he was not in Colorado when
29:43
Speaker 1: Suzanne disappeared. Testimony from the evidentiary hearing showed. Now, we
29:49
Speaker 1: all know, considering how often we follow stories like this
29:52
Speaker 1: and talk about stories like this, that the first person
29:55
Speaker 1: that gets looked at is the husband or the lover.
29:59
Speaker 1: Once they asked out the lover, obviously they were left
30:02
Speaker 1: with Barry Morphew. And in my opinion, who else would
30:06
Speaker 1: want to hurt Suzanne? There's no evidence of anybody else
30:09
Speaker 1: in her life, right? So when you start following all
30:12
Speaker 1: the evidence, what are you left with? Well, in my opinion,
30:15
Speaker 1: you're left with her husband who has to answer some
30:17
Speaker 1: damn questions. It will become a joint effort between every
30:22
Speaker 1: investigative agency which has any interest in the case. County
30:26
Speaker 1: Sheriff Dan Warwick told the Denver Gazette on Thursday. I
30:30
Speaker 1: don't know that this is starting over, but I can
30:32
Speaker 1: say that we are getting fresh eyes on the case.
30:36
Speaker 1: And if you read between the lines there, what he's
30:38
Speaker 1: saying is they're going to reinvestigate this and they're going
30:41
Speaker 1: to take a fresh look. So in my opinion, it's
30:44
Speaker 1: a good thing that a new county is involved, considering
30:47
Speaker 1: the prosecutors the last time flubbed it. So if you
30:50
Speaker 1: get some new prosecutors involved here, you get new investigators
30:54
Speaker 1: looking at it. And it gives me more confidence that
30:57
Speaker 1: what's going on behind the scenes will eventually lead to justice.
31:01
Speaker 1: But when you have prosecutorial misconduct and they can't even
31:04
Speaker 1: get basic discovery right. That doesn't bode well for the
31:08
Speaker 1: rest of the case. And I know a lot of
31:09
Speaker 1: people don't like to hear that, but it's very critical
31:12
Speaker 1: that the state follow all the procedures and all the
31:15
Speaker 1: guidelines that's put before it. They have so much power
31:19
Speaker 1: over all of us that if they don't follow those guidelines,
31:22
Speaker 1: then the tilted table that the government's working with against
31:25
Speaker 1: the citizens in court is going to be even more tilted.
31:29
Speaker 1: And for me, that's not acceptable. So when prosecutors have
31:32
Speaker 1: the kind of power that prosecutors have, they have to
31:35
Speaker 1: do the right thing. And if not, you end up
31:38
Speaker 1: in a situation like this. Now, don't get it twisted.
31:41
Speaker 1: I think there is plenty of evidence here to charge
31:43
Speaker 1: Barry Morphew. My biggest issue is that the prosecutors will
31:48
Speaker 1: screw it up again. The lead FBI investigator who wrote
31:52
Speaker 1: the 130-page arrest affidavit has retired and now works for
31:57
Speaker 1: Douglas County Schools as Director of Safety and Security. John Grusing,
32:02
Speaker 1: a crackerjack detective, has been an integral force in investigating
32:06
Speaker 1: numerous Colorado murder cases. That includes the case of Dylan Redwine,
32:11
Speaker 1: whose bones were also found after years of going missing.
32:15
Speaker 1: Grusing has continued to advise on the case. Sources close
32:18
Speaker 1: to the investigation have told the Denver Gazette. None of
32:22
Speaker 1: this is good for Barry Morphew, by the way. And
32:25
Speaker 1: I would say that it's almost a guarantee that they're
32:28
Speaker 1: going to charge him again. Morphew charged, then freed. Barry
32:33
Speaker 1: Morphew was charged with first degree murder almost a year
32:36
Speaker 1: to the day of which his wife went missing. But
32:39
Speaker 1: the prosecution asked the judge to dismiss the case on
32:42
Speaker 1: the eve of the trial in April 2022 because they
32:46
Speaker 1: felt they were close to finding her body. So now
32:48
Speaker 1: that they found her body, it's go time. And Barry
32:52
Speaker 1: Morphew is going to have to answer some very, very
32:54
Speaker 1: hard questions. And it's my opinion that he's not going
32:57
Speaker 1: to be able to answer those questions. So what are
33:00
Speaker 1: we going to see? We're going to see the process
33:02
Speaker 1: attacked once again. She is in a very difficult spot.
33:07
Speaker 1: We actually have more than just a feeling. And the
33:10
Speaker 1: sheriff's office is continuing to look for Miss Morphew's body.
33:13
Speaker 1: Deputy District Attorney Mark Holbert had said at the time. Meanwhile,
33:18
Speaker 1: Morphew walked out of a Fremont County courthouse a free man,
33:22
Speaker 1: flanked by his two daughters, Mallory and Macy, who stood
33:25
Speaker 1: by him through the pretrial hearings in the case in
33:28
Speaker 1: which he was accused of killing their mother. The family
33:31
Speaker 1: is in shock, said Morphew's attorney, Iris Itan. She said
33:35
Speaker 1: that as Suzanne's next of kin, Barry Morphew, was notified
33:39
Speaker 1: by the coroner that his wife's remains had been found
33:42
Speaker 1: and that he was so stunned he could not recall
33:44
Speaker 1: the conversation. Well, I wonder, was he stunned or was
33:47
Speaker 1: he scared? because he knew that once the body was found,
33:51
Speaker 1: it's going to be go time. And the prosecutors have
33:54
Speaker 1: already said that the reason that they didn't pursue the
33:57
Speaker 1: charges is because they didn't have the body. So it
33:59
Speaker 1: doesn't take that far of a leap to think that
34:02
Speaker 1: now that they have the body, that they're going to
34:04
Speaker 1: go back and they're going to refile these charges. Suzanne's
34:08
Speaker 1: family is also reeling from the finality of the news.
34:12
Speaker 1: In a statement, her nephew, Chris Mormon, wrote that while
34:15
Speaker 1: the family is grateful to all those who searched for
34:18
Speaker 1: Auntie Suzanne the past three years, there is no possible
34:21
Speaker 1: way to call yesterday's discovery good news. Never a good
34:25
Speaker 1: day when you find the remains of your loved one. Sure,
34:28
Speaker 1: you get a little bit of closure maybe, but that
34:30
Speaker 1: doesn't bring them back. That doesn't change the new reality
34:34
Speaker 1: that you're going to be breezing into. He then went
34:36
Speaker 1: on to describe Ms. Morphew as a warm and loving
34:39
Speaker 1: person and asked for people to pray for her daughters
34:42
Speaker 1: and that justice, however long delayed, comes for the monster
34:46
Speaker 1: who committed this heinous crime. The field where Morphew's remains
34:50
Speaker 1: were found was 30 to 40 miles from the Morphew
34:54
Speaker 1: family home where she was last seen on May 10th, 2020.
34:58
Speaker 1: Morphew told police that he drove off that morning for
35:01
Speaker 1: a landscaping job in Broomfield at 5 a.m., and the
35:04
Speaker 1: last time he saw his wife, she was sleeping soundly,
35:07
Speaker 1: according to a preliminary hearing. You're going to have to
35:10
Speaker 1: provide receipts for all of it. I don't trust a
35:14
Speaker 1: damn word you have to say, unfortunately, Barry Morphew. Now,
35:17
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and say for sure
35:19
Speaker 1: that you murdered your wife, because I don't know. But
35:22
Speaker 1: the more I look into this case, the more the
35:24
Speaker 1: evidence is piling up against Barry Morphew.
35:28
Speaker 2: New discovery, new questions.
35:31
Speaker 1: Investigators must now look at whether Morphew could have had
35:34
Speaker 1: time to kill Suzanne, drive the 40 minutes to a
35:37
Speaker 1: field on the east side of Sawatch, bury her in
35:41
Speaker 1: a shallow grave, and retrace his journey on Highway 285
35:45
Speaker 1: north to Broomfield for his landscaping job. And this is
35:48
Speaker 1: one of the most crucial parts of the timeline right here, folks.
35:51
Speaker 1: The investigators are going to have to rebuild this, and
35:54
Speaker 1: if they can rebuild it and have him with enough
35:57
Speaker 1: time to kill his wife, It's going to be very
36:00
Speaker 1: difficult for him to wiggle his way out of that.
36:04
Speaker 1: ITAN and other sources close to the investigation confirm that
36:08
Speaker 1: GPS from Morphew's truck and tracking evidence from his cell
36:11
Speaker 1: phone show that he was not in Sawish on May
36:15
Speaker 1: 9th or 10th, the weekend Morphew went missing. These next
36:20
Speaker 1: days will be filled with meetings between investigators regarding the case,
36:25
Speaker 1: according to Warwick. He admitted that his department with eight
36:28
Speaker 1: to nine employees is tremendously smaller than Chaffees County, which
36:33
Speaker 1: has been in charge of the investigation into Morphew's death
36:37
Speaker 1: from the beginning and took it over again when the
36:39
Speaker 1: case was dismissed in April of 2022. But that doesn't
36:43
Speaker 1: sway him. I don't give a damn what it takes.
36:46
Speaker 1: I'll make it happen. Whatever it takes, we'll make it
36:48
Speaker 1: work and the commissioners will pay the bill, he said.
36:52
Speaker 1: That is my kind of sheriff right there. Go get
36:54
Speaker 1: that justice, my man. Find out who did this. And
36:57
Speaker 1: if it is Barry Morphew, indict his ass so he
37:00
Speaker 1: can be tried, then convicted, and then, well, helicopter rides
37:04
Speaker 1: and volcanoes for everybody. All right, folks, that's going to
37:08
Speaker 1: do it for this one. If you'd like to contact me,
37:10
Speaker 1: you can do that at bobbycapucci at protonmail.com. That's B-O-B-B-Y-C-A-P-U-C-C-I
37:17
Speaker 1: at protonmail.com. All of the information that goes with this
37:21
Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box. What's up
37:26
Speaker 1: everyone and welcome back to the program. Ever since the
37:30
Speaker 1: remains of Suzanne Morphew were found, there have been two
37:34
Speaker 1: camps of people pretty much. One camp thinking that Barry
37:38
Speaker 1: Morphew is guilty and the other camp thinking that he
37:41
Speaker 1: is not. Me personally, I have no idea. What I
37:45
Speaker 1: do know is that a woman was murdered And nobody
37:48
Speaker 1: has been captured for that murder. And according to Barry
37:52
Speaker 1: Morphew's lawyer, while the police were focused on his client,
37:56
Speaker 1: the person responsible was able to get away. And now
37:59
Speaker 1: the lawyer is saying that there might be a serial killer. Now,
38:03
Speaker 1: of course, I take everything that a lawyer has to
38:06
Speaker 1: say with a grain of salt. He's going to say
38:08
Speaker 1: or do anything he can within the bounds of the
38:11
Speaker 1: law to try and make his client look innocent. But
38:15
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and not listen to
38:16
Speaker 1: what the guy has to say. There's a long way
38:18
Speaker 1: to go here. Nobody has all the answers. And until
38:22
Speaker 1: we get some proof one way or the other, I
38:24
Speaker 1: think having tunnel vision and only looking at Barry more
38:27
Speaker 1: a few is not a great idea. Now, does that
38:30
Speaker 1: mean they shouldn't investigate any more into the guy? Of
38:33
Speaker 1: course not. Everybody should be a suspect. But I hope
38:36
Speaker 1: they don't have tunnel vision here. And I hope that
38:38
Speaker 1: wasn't what caused them to miss some clues the first
38:41
Speaker 1: time around. So let's get to this article and let's
38:45
Speaker 1: get caught up. This article is from the Daily Mail
38:48
Speaker 1: and the headline. Lawyer for Suzanne Morphew's husband, Barry, lashes
38:53
Speaker 1: out at accusers, blindly pointing finger back at him after
38:57
Speaker 1: Colorado's mom's body was found in shallow grave in Desert
39:01
Speaker 1: Field and suggests death may be the work of a
39:04
Speaker 1: serial killer. Well, that's a bit much. We'll have to
39:07
Speaker 1: have some more evidence of that. But again, we can't
39:10
Speaker 1: just discount things out of hand because the lawyer said it.
39:14
Speaker 1: So we'll have to let the process play out. We'll
39:16
Speaker 1: have to look at the evidence, whatever evidence is available,
39:19
Speaker 1: and we'll go from there. And as you all know,
39:23
Speaker 1: no matter who's responsible for this, I hope that they
39:25
Speaker 1: get a helicopter ride directly to a volcano. This article
39:31
Speaker 1: was authored by Harriet Alexander, an attorney for the husband
39:36
Speaker 1: of missing Colorado woman Suzanne Morphew, whose body was found
39:40
Speaker 1: last week after a three-year search, angrily condemned finger-pointing at
39:45
Speaker 1: her client and suggested a serial killer could be on
39:48
Speaker 1: the loose. Suzanne Morphew, 49, was last seen on May 10, 2020,
39:54
Speaker 1: setting out for a bike ride from the Salida, Colorado
39:57
Speaker 1: home she shared with her husband Barry and their two daughters.
40:02
Speaker 1: The pair had both had affairs, and she had texted
40:05
Speaker 1: him that she was done with their marriage days before
40:09
Speaker 1: she vanished. Never a good look for the husband. Usually
40:13
Speaker 1: when somebody's murdered, it's by somebody that's close to them.
40:17
Speaker 1: Very rarely is it a stranger. So, of course, the
40:20
Speaker 1: police are going to focus on Barry Morphew right away.
40:24
Speaker 1: But the question is, is that where their focus stopped?
40:28
Speaker 1: And if so, did they let somebody else creep away? Again,
40:31
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not saying that's what happened. We
40:34
Speaker 1: don't have all the details here. But we most certainly
40:37
Speaker 1: have seen investigations go off the rails when the investigators
40:41
Speaker 1: get tunnel vision and focus on one person. And then
40:44
Speaker 1: it turns out that that person that they were focused
40:46
Speaker 1: on is innocent, or they don't have the evidence, at least,
40:50
Speaker 1: to pin that person with the crime. So all that
40:53
Speaker 1: time that was wasted being pigeonholed, now you can't get back,
40:57
Speaker 1: and the person who is responsible has that much of
41:00
Speaker 1: a bigger lead on you. Barry was arrested a year
41:03
Speaker 1: after she disappeared and charged with her murder, despite there
41:06
Speaker 1: being no body. But after arguments about the evidence and procedures,
41:12
Speaker 1: charges were dropped a year later without prejudice, meaning he
41:16
Speaker 1: could be charged again if new evidence came to light.
41:19
Speaker 1: On Thursday, Barry Morphew's attorney. Iris Itan spoke out against
41:24
Speaker 1: what she called the overriding focus on finger pointing right
41:28
Speaker 1: back where it started three and a half years ago,
41:30
Speaker 1: a movement to blindly reaccused Barry for Suzanne's death. Now,
41:36
Speaker 1: to be clear, this is exactly what every single lawyer
41:39
Speaker 1: who's defending somebody is going to say. So the right method,
41:43
Speaker 1: like usual, is trust, but verify. So we'll have to
41:46
Speaker 1: verify the things that this lawyer is saying and as
41:49
Speaker 1: this investigation continues to evolve. Itan noted in a statement
41:54
Speaker 1: sent to KKTV that Suzanne Morphew's remains were found 45
41:59
Speaker 1: miles south of the Morphew family home. Barry Morphew, a landscaper,
42:04
Speaker 1: was at work near Denver, 140 miles north of the
42:08
Speaker 1: family home, on the day she was reported missing. So
42:11
Speaker 1: there's a lot here that the prosecution is going to
42:14
Speaker 1: have to explain. And they're going to have to make
42:17
Speaker 1: sure that they have all their ducks in a row
42:19
Speaker 1: this time. Because the last time around, they botched it.
42:23
Speaker 1: Not only did they botch it, they really botched it.
42:26
Speaker 1: And they made themselves look straight up foolish. So if
42:28
Speaker 1: they're going to bring charges against Barry Morphew again, they
42:32
Speaker 1: better have everything locked in. But a 130-page affidavit made
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Speaker 1: public in September 2021, after Barry was arrested, prosecutors suggested
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Speaker 1: that from 2.47 p.m. on May 9th, 2020, until 5.37am
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Speaker 1: on May 10th, 2020, he took steps to dispose of
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Speaker 1: evidence in Suzanne Morphew's disappearance and death, create a false
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Speaker 1: alibi for himself, and stage a crime scene. So I
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Speaker 1: haven't read this affidavit yet, but I'm going to later today.
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Speaker 1: Now that we're talking about this case more and now
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Speaker 1: that Suzanne's remains were found, I think it's important to
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Speaker 1: make sure that we have that affidavit and that we
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Speaker 1: read it. That way we understand exactly what was alleged
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Speaker 1: and what was being charged by the authorities. And whenever
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Speaker 1: a court document is available for us to read, I
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Speaker 1: am more than interested to dive in because not every
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Speaker 1: court makes them available. The case was abandoned shortly before
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Speaker 1: trial and Barry launched a $ 15 million defamation case against
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Speaker 1: the local authorities, which is still pending. I mean, if
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Speaker 1: you wrongly accused me of killing my wife, I'm launching
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Speaker 1: a defamation case against you as well, especially if the
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Speaker 1: case against me gets dropped.
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Speaker 2: Forget it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, imagine if this guy is innocent to not
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Speaker 1: only lose your wife, but then get accused of actually
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Speaker 1: killing her.
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Speaker 2: That must be some horrible stuff.
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Speaker 1: And if he is innocent, then he deserves that $ 15
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Speaker 1: million and probably a little more than that. However, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if the guy's innocent yet. I have no idea.
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Speaker 1: And I think there's still a long way to go
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Speaker 1: here before we can get to any point where we're like,
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Speaker 1: all right, here's some tangible evidence. And this evidence points
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Speaker 1: directly at Barry Morphew. But as far as I can tell,
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Speaker 1: there is nothing that directly links this man to this murder.
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Speaker 1: ITAN said it would be ludicrous for investigators to now
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Speaker 1: try and claim Barry Morphew was near Moffitt where Suzanne's
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Speaker 1: remains were found. So they're going to have to figure
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Speaker 1: that all out. Now, if they have evidence of that, great,
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Speaker 1: let's see it. But if not, they're going to have
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Speaker 1: a hard time convincing a jury that this dude's responsible
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Speaker 1: for what happened, especially if he has people corroborating the
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Speaker 1: fact or the story that he was in Denver at
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Speaker 1: the time. Barry was the most scrutinized, dissected, surveilled individual,
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Speaker 1: minute by minute, hour by hour, using law enforcement cameras
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Speaker 1: posted by his phone, phone taps, and GPS devices placed
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Speaker 1: on his car, all during the timeframe of her disappearance
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Speaker 1: and the years following, said ITAN. At no time did
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Speaker 1: the FBI, CBI, Chaffee County Sheriff's Office, or DA's office
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Speaker 1: pinpoint or even generally claim that Barry was in any
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Speaker 1: area south of his home near Moffitt or anywhere near
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Speaker 1: Saguache County at any relevant time frame. So that's going
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Speaker 1: to be difficult for the prosecution. They're going to have
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Speaker 1: to figure this all out and have some sort of
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Speaker 1: tangible evidence that puts them in the area. And if
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Speaker 1: they don't have that, they're going to have to rely
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Speaker 1: on other evidence that's found maybe at the scene where
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Speaker 1: her remains are found, DNA, stuff like that. And then
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Speaker 1: from there, they'll be able to get a better idea, hopefully,
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Speaker 1: of what went down. But there's no guarantee, especially considering
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Speaker 1: how long her remains have been out in the wild.
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Speaker 1: It would be ludicrous for anyone to now try to
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Speaker 1: fit the known facts to prior false assumptions and accusations.
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Speaker 1: Itan said Suzanne's remains were found while police were searching
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Speaker 1: for Edna Quintana, a 55-year-old with known medical complications, who
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Speaker 1: was last seen in the area on May 3rd. Itan
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Speaker 1: also referenced Crystal Reisinger, a young mother, Crystal Ann Reisinger,
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Speaker 1: who was last seen in the town of Crestone in
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Speaker 1: July 2016. Reisinger, 29, attended a drum circle ceremony, joining
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Speaker 1: a group gathered to party with under the full summer moon,
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Speaker 1: and was never seen again. Crestone is 13 miles from Moffat,
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Speaker 1: where Morphew's remains were found. ITAN said that investigators were
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Speaker 1: so focused on Barry Morphew being the suspect that they
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Speaker 1: had not considered searching south of their home because Barry
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Speaker 1: was not there. What needs to be done instead of
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Speaker 1: pointing fingers at Barry Morphew is asking the officials about
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Speaker 1: the number of missing people and number of human remains
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Speaker 1: that have been recovered and in or from Sagosh County
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Speaker 1: in the recent past, said Itan. Whatever happened to Crystal Reisinger,
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Speaker 1: Edna Quintana, Suzanne, the man whose remains were found in
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Speaker 1: the county by the sheriff's office in the foothills on
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Speaker 1: July 26, 2023, or the remains of the person in
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Speaker 1: another area found last weekend? What were the circumstances of
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Speaker 1: their disappearances? What is the cause and manner and death
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Speaker 1: of the remains found in the area? What happened to them?
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Speaker 1: Are they looking for other remains in this area? The
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Speaker 1: public should demand answers about these five people who suspiciously
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Speaker 1: went missing or were found dead in this area. And
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Speaker 1: I'm sure the public locally is demanding answers. And my
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Speaker 1: guess is the investigators are working hard to try and
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Speaker 1: provide those answers. Now, the circumstances surrounding Suzanne Morphew's death
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Speaker 1: definitely don't look good for Barry Morphew. But considering the
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Speaker 1: prosecution did such a bad job the last time around,
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Speaker 1: I think the prudent course of action here is to
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Speaker 1: wait for more evidence to be presented. Now, again, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if Barry Morphew did this or not. And
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Speaker 1: there's certainly some evidence that points to him being the
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Speaker 1: person responsible. But unfortunately, you need the evidence to back
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Speaker 1: all of that up. And up until now, the prosecution
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Speaker 1: hasn't been able to provide that evidence or even get
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Speaker 1: this to progress to a point where it goes to trial.
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Speaker 1: So for me anyway, I'll be following along closely here
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Speaker 1: and I'll be looking at the evidence as it's provided.
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Speaker 1: Because the first time around, it sure looked to me
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Speaker 1: like Barry Morphew was the man who was responsible. But
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Speaker 1: after you have prosecutorial misconduct that ends up with a
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Speaker 1: case getting tossed and There's going to be a critical
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Speaker 1: eye turn to you if you bring those charges again.
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Speaker 1: So what I'm saying is, I hope that if the
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Speaker 1: prosecution has the goods on Barry Morphew, they have an
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Speaker 1: airtight case. Don't mess around. Don't give him a chance
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Speaker 1: to get off if he is the guy. And certainly
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Speaker 1: don't have it be on a technicality. Because that's exactly
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Speaker 1: what happened last time around, folks. A technicality. So we're
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Speaker 1: going to be following along here. And we're going to
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Speaker 1: be following along with whatever evidence is provided.
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Speaker 2: And we'll see which way... things break.
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