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Surviving the Beach with Tanner Courtad · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: My goodness, we are just recording like crazy and it
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  Speaker 2: is a blast. We were having so much fun at
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  Speaker 2: the Almost Names podcast, and today it's gonna be even
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  Speaker 2: more fun. We have a special guest, Hot off the
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  Speaker 2: beach Less Sweaty Tanner.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Ben, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: Tanner, tell us a little bit about yourself before we
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  Speaker 5: dive into paradise. We have some time. We like to
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  Speaker 5: get to know, like your backstory a bit. Where you
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  Speaker 5: live in Pittsburgh currently. Is that where you grew up?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, born and raised here at Pittsburgh. I've been here
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  Speaker 6: for a while. I lived in New York City for
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  Speaker 6: a bit right after college. But but yeah, I just
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  Speaker 6: been working here at Pittsburgh. I worked at various jobs.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I was a sales guy before the show,
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  Speaker 6: so I was in insurance sales, software sales, medical sales,
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  Speaker 6: and then recently mortgage sales. But I've always done fitness
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  Speaker 6: part time, so I've worked at a bunch of gyms.
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  Speaker 6: I've always been like, you know, personal trainer on the side.
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  Speaker 6: So so that's what I'm doing full time. So I'm
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  Speaker 6: no longer a sales guy. I'm going full time fitness here.
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  Speaker 6: I just started, like back in October. But a pretty
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  Speaker 6: normal guy. I mean, that's probably why I'm pretty boring TV,
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  Speaker 6: because I'm just like, I'm a normal dude, pretty close
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  Speaker 6: to my friends and family here in Pittsburgh, loved to travel,
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  Speaker 6: so pretty normal, pretty boring.
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  Speaker 2: The fitness thing. You know, I was doing a little
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  Speaker 2: research before we got on. It also looks like you've
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  Speaker 2: done some modeling in the past.
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  Speaker 7: A little bit.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I years and years ago, so I graduated from
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  Speaker 6: the University of Pittsburgh. I actually signed with Ford Models
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  Speaker 6: in New York. So I lived in New York City
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  Speaker 6: for about two years.
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  Speaker 8: Ford it's a big deal.
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  Speaker 7: At the time, I thought it was.
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  Speaker 6: And I made like zero dollars in two years, so
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  Speaker 6: I was I was poor and hungry living in New
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  Speaker 6: York City. But it was honestly like the best experience
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  Speaker 6: in my life. I mean, I was like twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: just moved to New York and Ben, I was actually
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  Speaker 6: watching your season. When I moved to New York. I
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  Speaker 6: was friends with a bunch of girls and they would
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  Speaker 6: get together on Monday nights and watch The Bachelor and
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  Speaker 6: your season was twenty sixteen, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty sixteen. My goodness. Really, so you're twenty two
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  Speaker 2: and twenty sixteen. We're not that far apart in age.
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  Speaker 2: So were you watching that back in the day. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure if you're watching with the girls are like
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  Speaker 2: you should go on this, Tanner, like you could do this.
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  Speaker 3: Were they saying that to you?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, back when I was like younger at twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: I definitely was considering it. And then you know, I
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  Speaker 6: moved back to Pittsburgh, and you know how it goes.
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  Speaker 6: I started dating a girl, got a job, started dating
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  Speaker 6: another girl. Next thing you know, I'm thirty, and then
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  Speaker 6: my brother signed me up. So definitely like a long
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  Speaker 6: time coming. But honestly, I'm kind of appreciative of the
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  Speaker 6: fact that I went on a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit older.
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  Speaker 6: I probably would have made an ask of myself if
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  Speaker 6: I went on at twenty two or twenty three.
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  Speaker 2: So I was very nervous about that myself. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I was what twenty five, twenty six and so you were,
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  Speaker 2: we weren't that far apart in age, and yeah, you're
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  Speaker 2: just yeah, I look back, I'm like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: how I did that, Like I was an idiot and
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  Speaker 2: somehow I pulled it off.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks man, it's that old soul.
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  Speaker 8: And Ben, what did did you earn a cardigan today? Tanner?
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  Speaker 5: Did you continue to watch the show since Ben season?
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  Speaker 6: To be honest, no, I think I watched Ben's season
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  Speaker 6: was like the last time. I was like pretty invested
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  Speaker 6: in the show and like watched it weekend and week out,
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  Speaker 6: and then I would catch a couple of seasons, a
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  Speaker 6: couple of episodes here and there over the past couple
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  Speaker 6: of years, but once Chris left, I kind of stopped
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  Speaker 6: watching it for the most part. I would tune in
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  Speaker 6: and pay attention every once in a while, but yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I was kind of like, uh, I was off of
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  Speaker 6: it for a little bit, but found my way back.
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  Speaker 4: Now I'm on it. You know.
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  Speaker 2: The h Well, I think that's a lot of people's
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  Speaker 2: like kind of path right now with The Bachelor. But
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  Speaker 2: the Golden Bachler brought a lot of new people in.
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  Speaker 2: We're not going to talk as much about the Golden Bachelor,
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  Speaker 2: but people, you know, the ratings and the viewership was
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  Speaker 2: really high, and those watch parties that you're just speaking
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  Speaker 2: of seem to exist again for the first time in years,
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  Speaker 2: which is really exciting for the franchise, And it's a
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  Speaker 2: question I have for you.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: Then we come from The Golden Bachelor to Paradise, and
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  Speaker 2: Paradise is always one of Ashley myself's favorite shows to watch.
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  Speaker 2: We love watching Paradise mostly because it just the weight
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  Speaker 2: of like and the expectations For me at least, kind
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  Speaker 2: of feel lifted. When you go to the beach, I
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  Speaker 2: just want to see the craziness. I just want to
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  Speaker 2: see a bunch of people like frolicking around sweaty. But
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  Speaker 2: Paradise's response this year, you know, there's been a lot
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  Speaker 2: of articles written about how like viewership from The Golden
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  Speaker 2: to Paradise didn't necessarily translate. Do you have any feelings
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  Speaker 2: now since you were on the beach? Why that was?
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, man, It's super tough because I genuinely
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  Speaker 6: loved watching The Golden Bachelor too. After that first episode,
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  Speaker 6: I remember calling some of my friends and like, did
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  Speaker 6: you watch that? That was like one of the best
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  Speaker 6: hour two hours of TV I've watched in a long time.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: I think it's just because people really related to even
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  Speaker 6: though the cast was older. I think people just related
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  Speaker 6: it because it just felt very, very real, and you
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  Speaker 6: can tell that the people on that show were all
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  Speaker 6: there for you know, we always say it for the
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  Speaker 6: right reasons, but they were right. They're not looking for clout,
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  Speaker 6: they're not looking for Instagram followers or any of that,
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  Speaker 6: so they're really there for the right reasons. And then
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  Speaker 6: I'm not saying people go on The Bachelor in Paradise
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  Speaker 6: for that reason either, but it just feel it just
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  Speaker 6: felt more real and people were willing to really put
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  Speaker 6: themselves out there and be as vulnerable as possible, and
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  Speaker 6: Paradise was I never really watched.
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  Speaker 4: It, to be honest, before I went on the show.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I went on The Bachelorette and people were
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  Speaker 6: talking about Paradise, and you know, I was like, I
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  Speaker 6: got to check out this show out before I even
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  Speaker 6: consider going on it. So I watched just the last
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  Speaker 6: season of Paradise, so season eight, and I'm watching it,
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  Speaker 6: I'm like, I cannot believe that I'm about to be
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  Speaker 6: on this show, Like.
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  Speaker 7: This is absolutely insane.
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  Speaker 6: It's super fun to watch, but when you're watching it
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  Speaker 6: with the expectation that you might be on the show soon,
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  Speaker 6: you watch it through a different lens. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, it was a I don't know the
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  Speaker 6: answer to your.
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  Speaker 4: Question, to be honest.
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  Speaker 7: I think it's just they're just two completely different shows.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 5: This season is just kind of like it sucks for
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  Speaker 5: like you guys, for the audience, for production, just because
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  Speaker 5: like there really wasn't any well lifelong even really like
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  Speaker 5: short term matches.
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  Speaker 6: I know, I mean it sucks. I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 6: say I'm surprised, to be honest. I mean I was there,
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  Speaker 6: and uh and I was with you know, I was
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  Speaker 6: with it pretty much the most of the time. I
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  Speaker 6: came in right after the first row ceremony.
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  Speaker 7: I just didn't feel it.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I didn't see a lot of couples growing,
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  Speaker 6: you know, people that stayed together from the beginning to
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  Speaker 6: the end. It just felt like they just chose each
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  Speaker 6: other and they were just going to make it work,
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  Speaker 6: and they weren't really growing in the relationship while.
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  Speaker 4: They're on the beach. Yeah, and you know, it turns
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  Speaker 4: out that I was.
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  Speaker 6: I was right when you know when I was saying,
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  Speaker 6: just because with all the breakups that happened as soon
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  Speaker 6: as after the finale, you know, and it's it's unfortunate.
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  Speaker 7: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I know that everyone tried and they tried to make
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  Speaker 6: it work, but it's just I don't know.
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  Speaker 7: It's tough.
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  Speaker 6: We filmed it back in June, too, so it's really hard.
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  Speaker 6: I can't imagine hiding a relationship for close to six
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  Speaker 6: months and trying to grow it in that time too,
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  Speaker 6: So it's it's tough.
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  Speaker 4: I feel bad for him.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, give us if you can, like a
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  Speaker 2: h underneath the hood perspective. So you just said that
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  Speaker 2: you weren't really feeling it, that you kind of had
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  Speaker 2: this suspicion that these couples maybe weren't as strong as
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  Speaker 2: what they needed to be. What was causing that? Was
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  Speaker 2: it just a lack of chemistry based on the people
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  Speaker 2: on the beach? Was it production stepping into much maybe
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  Speaker 2: too much drama?
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  Speaker 5: Like?
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  Speaker 2: What kind of was causing the disconnects because we've never
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  Speaker 2: seen a season like this before.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's hard for me to pinpoint it, to
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  Speaker 6: be honest, it's probably a combination of a lot of
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  Speaker 6: different things. For me, I really tried to put myself
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  Speaker 6: out there and really try to see everyone for who
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  Speaker 6: they were and try to get there, and I never
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  Speaker 6: did and that's why I left single, and that's why
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  Speaker 6: you know, you may say whatever you want about me,
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  Speaker 6: you know, dating around, but it's a dating show, you know.
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  Speaker 6: And I tried to get there, and as soon as
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  Speaker 6: I found out that I wasn't quite gonna get there
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  Speaker 6: with anybody on the beach, I left right and I
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  Speaker 6: and I kind of saw everything through. I think a
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  Speaker 6: lot of people were just super hopeful.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't. I really don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's tough, it's it's hard to see what those people,
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  Speaker 6: when those relationships would be like outside of Paradise because
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  Speaker 6: I've only seen them, you know, on camera and on
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  Speaker 6: the beach. So it's a it's a super stressful environment.
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  Speaker 6: So I can't I can't speak too much about it,
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  Speaker 6: but it's a it's tough. It's tough being on the beach,
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  Speaker 6: and I'm assuming it's really hard to nurture that kind
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  Speaker 6: of relationship outside of the beach as well.
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  Speaker 4: So it's I don't.
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  Speaker 5: Know, let's talk about your relationships. We understand why the
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  Speaker 5: one with Kat fell too, yeah, and that one didn't
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  Speaker 5: work out, but what about your relationship with Daviya because
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  Speaker 5: your date with her seemed really great you seemed really
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  Speaker 5: in awe of her, and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 5: you're just like kind of interested in moving to someone else.
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  Speaker 8: What didn't we see?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I could speak on that for sure, and I
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  Speaker 6: think a lot of it came down to, you know,
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  Speaker 6: I came to the beach, I was interested in two people.
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  Speaker 6: I was interested in meeting Kat and I was interested
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  Speaker 6: in meeting Jess. And in my head, I mean, to
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  Speaker 6: be completely transparent, I told myself, if I don't see
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  Speaker 6: a relationship with one of those two, I'm gonna leave.
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  Speaker 6: So really, once I stopped it with Kat, that's kind
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  Speaker 6: of when my head started turning, and I was like
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  Speaker 6: should I even be here? Like should I leave Paradise?
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  Speaker 6: And then because Jess wouldn't talk to me at that point,
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  Speaker 6: you know, she was pretty much, you know.
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  Speaker 4: All eyes on Blake.
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  Speaker 6: She was kind of turned off in the fact that
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  Speaker 6: I chose Kat over her, so that was kind of
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  Speaker 6: just like, you know, she was kind of turned off
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  Speaker 6: by that. So at that point I just felt like
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  Speaker 6: I was just floating around. And then obviously I went
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  Speaker 6: on the date with Davia and we had a really
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  Speaker 6: amazing date. So actually, you're right, we did have an
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  Speaker 6: amazing night, and I was hopeful to see like where
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  Speaker 6: the relationship would go after that, But you know, the
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  Speaker 6: next day, the next two days, it just didn't really grow.
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  Speaker 6: And chemistry that I thought was there was there on
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  Speaker 6: the night of the date, because you guys know how
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  Speaker 6: those dates go. You're you know, you're having fun, you're dancing,
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  Speaker 6: it's like you're super involved, you're super engaged with each other,
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  Speaker 6: and then you know, a little bit of reality sinks
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  Speaker 6: in when you go to your room and you wake
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  Speaker 6: up the next day and you're journaling and you're thinking about,
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  Speaker 6: you know, what you want.
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  Speaker 4: And I took this very seriously.
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  Speaker 6: I wasn't going to just leave in an engagement just
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  Speaker 6: to treat it as like a dating right. I wanted
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  Speaker 6: to see a legitimate future with this person if I'm
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  Speaker 6: going to leave with them, And I kind of made
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  Speaker 6: that decision up maybe like that that next day or
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  Speaker 6: the next two days after the date, that you know,
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  Speaker 6: maybe Davia wasn't my person. So that's when you know,
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  Speaker 6: we kind of fell apart and ended up giving my
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  Speaker 6: rose to Rachel that next rose timon, which was like
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  Speaker 6: a huge surprise to everybody, But it really wasn't a
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  Speaker 6: surprise to me or anyone on the beach. You know,
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  Speaker 6: I was pretty conflicted, But at the end of the day,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, is Dellvy and my person? I don't
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  Speaker 6: think so I'm not really convinced she is, so let's
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  Speaker 6: not kind of keep her around and waste her time.
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  Speaker 6: And Rachel and I were really close friends. So I
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  Speaker 6: gave her a rose, and you know, I was hopeful
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  Speaker 6: to maybe see if something would happen from there.
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  Speaker 5: So and what did because that was another missed storyline,
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  Speaker 5: like what happened between you and Rachel in a day
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  Speaker 5: or two where you just realize it wasn't her either,
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  Speaker 5: especially after that like declaration that you gave. That was
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  Speaker 5: like I daydream about my wife and finding someone and
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  Speaker 5: it was so so sweet, But then it was like that,
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  Speaker 5: I guess it's not Rachel.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean again, I'm super hopeful and optimistic. So it
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  Speaker 6: was tough in those like conversations. You know, I wasn't
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  Speaker 6: expressing my love to Rachel. I was just telling her
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  Speaker 6: what I wanted and seeing a fit aligned with what
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  Speaker 6: she did, and and that's what that conversation really was.
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  Speaker 6: It may have looked a certain way, but it was
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  Speaker 6: really just me explaining to her what I wanted out
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  Speaker 6: of this and what did I want it outside of Paradise. So,
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  Speaker 6: like I said, Rachel and I were pretty close. We were
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  Speaker 6: drinking mimosas every day at the at the pool. We
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  Speaker 6: were having fun. So that's what like the decision came
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  Speaker 6: down to, is who do I want to drink mimosas
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  Speaker 6: with at the at the pool tomorrow? And it's right,
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  Speaker 6: so it's hang out. And again I was hopeful. I
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  Speaker 6: was trying to see if it could grow into something else,
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  Speaker 6: but ultimately it really just didn't. So it was a yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it was tough. It was again throughout this entire time,
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  Speaker 6: I was like, I don't think I even't want to
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  Speaker 6: be here anymore. It was it was really for me
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  Speaker 6: at a certain point. So yeah, I was just trying
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  Speaker 6: to make the best of it.
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  Speaker 2: The the you know, the thing that Ashley and myself
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  Speaker 2: continue to talk about through this season was these storylines
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  Speaker 2: that all of a sudden, like we would be invested into,
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  Speaker 2: like you and Davia, We'd be like, Okay, this could work,
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  Speaker 2: like let's talk about that, and then the show would
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  Speaker 2: air the next week and you guys would be done.
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  Speaker 2: But what I'm hearing you say and correct me or
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  Speaker 2: explain elaborate on a little bit. Is like when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to those storylines and you were on the beach,
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  Speaker 2: you got to see this whole thing play out. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: maybe there wasn't a conversation or a disagreement, it was
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you went to bed your journal. Do
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  Speaker 2: you thought it through the next morning? You know, you
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  Speaker 2: kind of woke up and you're like, yeah, this isn't
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  Speaker 2: gonna work anymore, Like this isn't something that's long term.
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  Speaker 2: So you have that situation. Were there other storylines as
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  Speaker 2: you watch this season progress where you're like, that didn't
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  Speaker 2: explain it fully, Like it felt like it missed the
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  Speaker 2: mark a little bit because there were moments where actually
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  Speaker 2: and myself were confused, like what happened that we didn't see?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there was a lot that I didn't
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  Speaker 7: see it myself, you know.
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  Speaker 6: I mean when you're on the beach, everything is happening,
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  Speaker 6: and there's conversations being had, and and you know, I
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  Speaker 6: was trying to stay in my lane. I wasn't trying
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  Speaker 6: to pay attention too much. But I mean even watching
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  Speaker 6: a back then, I was confused too. Even watching Kylie
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  Speaker 6: run up and talk to Blake. That threw me off
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  Speaker 6: completely when I was watching, Like I didn't even know
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  Speaker 6: that they were that close to friends. I was like,
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  Speaker 6: is she trying to be with Blake? I'm like, what
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  Speaker 6: is this Like? Even watching it back, there was times
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  Speaker 6: where I was confused and I was there and uh so, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, there was a lot of conversations, had
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  Speaker 6: a lot of conversations that weren't had. I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if it was the editing that just kind of made
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  Speaker 6: it confusing, but it was a it was just a
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  Speaker 6: weird season.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but what you're saying is you were even confused
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  Speaker 2: being on the beach. So it's not like there were
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  Speaker 2: things happening that just weren't shown. Maybe it's that like
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  Speaker 2: sometimes they were just situations just not happening, like things
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  Speaker 2: were not happening. Maybe, so that's why I felt confusing.
• 15:01
  Speaker 5: Like all they could do was put like you and
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: Rachel drinking mimosas and then put some awkward music behind it.
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: That would be the only way that they could convey
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: that something wasn't like amping up.
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah, And for me, it was like I never quite
• 15:14
  Speaker 6: got there with any of the girls on the beach,
• 15:17
  Speaker 6: and that's why it always looked very surface level with
• 15:20
  Speaker 6: our conversations, because they really were you know, it's you know,
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: I was with Kat for a few days and that
• 15:26
  Speaker 6: wasn't gonna work, and then I went on a date
• 15:28
  Speaker 6: with Davia for and then it was like the rose
• 15:30
  Speaker 6: ceremony was pretty much like two days after that. So
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: it was like, you know, I was just feeling everything
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: out enough and then to realize it wasn't going to work,
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: and then it would kind of.
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: Fizzle it away, fizzle away.
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I never really quite got there with with anybody,
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: and I'm not sure if anybody really did, even with
• 15:47
  Speaker 6: the couples that stayed from day one to the very
• 15:50
  Speaker 6: very end.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: So it's I don't know, it's a.
• 15:53
  Speaker 8: Got to talk about them. We got to talk about
• 15:55
  Speaker 8: them now, Okay.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hold up, I have one question before you jumping back,
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I have one question. I just want to know. I'm curious,
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: what does it feel like to watch yourself on national
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: television show up to a beach and have all these amazing, wonderful,
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: beautiful women be like sweating and like hyperventilating and talking
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: about how good looking you are and how excited they
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: are that you're there. Did that watching it back make
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: you feel awkward excited? Was there anybody that were saying
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: something about you that now you're like, okay, now that.
• 16:27
  Speaker 8: This isn't yeah, let's revisit her.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go back to this.
• 16:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know, man, it was It was
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: definitely crazy watching that first episode and seeing the interest
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: because like, as a guy, it's like, yeah, you think
• 16:40
  Speaker 6: maybe girls are interested in you, but then you just
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: kind of keep on living your life. You're never really sure.
• 16:44
  Speaker 6: So it's it's actually really cool to see what people
• 16:46
  Speaker 6: are thinking in those moments.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: But I don't know, it was fun. It was a
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: good time.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: Any you didn't answer any revisits, any anybody sparking interest again.
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: Jess was always kind of there, to be honest, you know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 6: one of the main reasons why I went. You know,
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: I felt like I messed it up in the beginning
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: and I truly never even got to know where. So
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: seeing her how excited she was to meet me in
• 17:09
  Speaker 6: the very beginning, you know that that kind of sucked
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: because I felt like our experience com Paradise would have
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: been a lot different if it I would have took
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: Jess on that date, k not Cat, So.
• 17:20
  Speaker 8: Will you talk to her?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: We'll see. I don't know.
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: I feel like first impressions are big. Yeah, they're bigger
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: for some other For some people, I can kind of
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: work through things. But I think that ship is officially sailed,
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: which I'm not mad about. You know, I'm friends with
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: everybody on the cast now, and you know, I'm never
• 17:40
  Speaker 6: rolling anything out, but it's it's one of those things
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: where it's, you know, it's tainted a little bit, and
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: it would take a little bit of work, and yeah,
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: I'm just not sure if it would anything whatever happen
• 17:51
  Speaker 6: going forward, But we'll see.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: I hope she listens to this episode and she just
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: you know, you get a message.
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: She's coming on our podcast tomorrow. We could, but we
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: could play matchmaker. We want to call back in.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: We'll get a feeling. We'll get a feeling.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: Tune in Tanner and you'll get a response to your curiosity.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: We'll be the middle middle people.
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: So I'm good. Appreciate you gay.
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: So Kylie and Avan, how were they on the beach?
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: Because to me, to be Frank never felt like a
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: ton of like just love there. I never felt like
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: he was like super happy, never really saw a conversation
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: of substance. Was that a couple that you could have
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: seen working in the real world?
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: It is to answer your question, and the reason being
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: that they chose each other, and it seemed like they
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: were going to continue to choose each other, which is
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: so important with a successful relationship. Right It's almost like
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: they made it up in their minds, like this is
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: my person and I'm your yours, and we're going to
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: figure this out together. But to double back on that,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: I didn't really feel it when I was there. Yeah,
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: what you're seeing on TV is pretty accurate of how
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: it felt being on the beach. I felt like there
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: was definitely a mutual interest and respect there, But you know,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: I didn't see them laughing together and you know, doing
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: cute little things together like you're supposed to when you
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: first meet someone, especially because they knew that they were
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: interested kind of going in. So I don't know, it
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: was tough, you know it was. I was watching it
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: and people were saying that they're so strong, that's such
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: a strong relationship.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: I'm like, I.
• 19:33
  Speaker 8: Guess it is, but like that's what you're telling me.
• 19:36
  Speaker 7: But like that's what they're telling us too, right, We're
• 19:39
  Speaker 7: we're so in on each other. So I'm like, all right,
• 19:42
  Speaker 7: we'll see.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: But and there's an element there too looking back, where yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: they're a very strong relationship compared to every other relationship,
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: but like none of these relationships, you know, were ones
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: that were like secure ever in anybody's mind.
• 19:59
  Speaker 7: Yeah, it's tough.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: You know, if I could change anything about the structure
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: of Paradise, I feel like they should just put everyone
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: on the beach and maybe have a few later rivals.
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: But I don't know, I feel having everybody there, you.
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: Know, maybe not do as many one on one dates,
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: you know, really have everyone just kind of mingle and
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: actually meet each other and date around.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: You know, that might make.
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: For a better show and better relationships post filming, just
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: because you have a better chance of like actually meeting everybody, you.
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: Know, for me, pretty good idea, Yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: I think so, because like someone like Jordan who came
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: in on Rachel's season, who came in late and went
• 20:36
  Speaker 6: on a date with Rachel. You know, if that dude
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: was there week one, he may have met Mercedes week two,
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: and then they may have like you know, went to
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: the very end. Yeah, just like they just didn't start
• 20:48
  Speaker 6: dating or talking until like a few days before proposals,
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: and how do you expect that to flourish into anything?
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: And same thing with Jess and I where she gave
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: me that last rose and I was like, let's go,
• 20:58
  Speaker 6: We're back, and not honestly like it was just like,
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: you know, two days where it was two days after
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: that was proposals. It's like, what are we even doing here?
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: But I don't know.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: It's it's tough when you get these different waves of
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: people coming in and you know your person may have
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: been their week one, but you come in week.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Four, right, and it has felt what you're the concept
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: you're saying, I do, it's just come to mind now.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: Other seasons have felt less.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: Like new people showing up that could definitely rock the
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: boat so far into the process. It has felt more
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: of a mingling experience for larger groups, with a few
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: couples splitting off.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: But oftentimes, you.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Know, we have had many like kind of like free
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: agents for weeks on the beach who have like had
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: some friendships and maybe gone a few dates but kind
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: of stayed around. This season did feel like there was
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: always somebody new coming in to kick the person who
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: wasn't in a relationship out, and so these relationships never
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: like solidified. It did feel kind of chaotic at times,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: more than other seasons.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, I think it was.
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: I think it was chaotic the entire time because as
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: soon as one relationship started to floor, someone would come
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: in and and ask them to go on a date,
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: and then there'd be another love triangle. And I know
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: the love triangles or what what makes paradise go around,
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: but it's, uh, I don't know, it's it's it's tough
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: to see just because you want to see successful relationships
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: coming out of the season, and and everyone there wants
• 22:26
  Speaker 6: to be in a relationship too, so it's it's tough.
• 22:29
  Speaker 6: I know, you got to make good TV, but you
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: also want to be able to, you know, come out
• 22:35
  Speaker 6: balance it, yeah, balance it and I and I know
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: that's a tough job for the producers to do too.
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: So it's I don't know what the solution is, but
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: just from my experience.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: You got those people bouncing around because nobody really liked
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: each other.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: We really liked each other.
• 22:51
  Speaker 7: That just may have been it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: At the end of the day.
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: It's just like there was no matches, which you think,
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: but also like not that crazy.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: There's I guess when you have nine seasons though, like
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: you're gonna have one season where you just don't get matches.
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: They've been really lucky before. It's really amazing that they've
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: had a couple to count from each season except for
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: season one.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 23:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, wait, so Kylie daven not done with them yet?
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: When was the last time you talked to them? Because
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: they're of all the breakups that theirs is the most salacious.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say Kylie and Avan, I I don't
• 23:26
  Speaker 6: talk to I haven't. I haven't really talked to them
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: post show too much. There's a couple of instagram the dms.
• 23:30
  Speaker 6: We support each other, but there's no conversations really had.
• 23:33
  Speaker 8: So it's not like you have any inside scoop to
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: give us.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I wish I did. I really have nothing. I haven't.
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: I haven't even talked to them post all this news too.
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to give them some space. But yeah, yeah,
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know the details, but I
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: feel for both both of them. Obviously, I feel for Kylie,
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: but I know Avan's down bad too. It's it's it's
• 23:50
  Speaker 6: a tough situation.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I'm very curiously also get your take on the John
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Henry Cat relationship, because obviously Kat was somebody you went
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: on a date with that you got to know fairly well.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: I guess like one of the few on the beach
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: that you really, you know, spent some quality time with.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: That relationship ended fairly quickly. Do you know when it?
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: You know, did it end way before the finale? Because
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: it didn't feel like that to me. It felt like
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: things were good. This week, everybody feels like they're posting
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: big announcements like we're moving in together or we're making
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: this work, and then the next day it's like, yeah,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: we decided it's not.
• 24:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, John Henry's my voice.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I'll let them speak on the timeline of things, don't.
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: I don't want to say that because I don't know
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: the exact details and dates and things that happened. But
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: I will say when I was on the beach with them,
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: I legit thought it was going to work, you know,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: had I had a bet with Olivia that they would
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: last pass September first, and she said they wouldn't. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 6: Jerry still out on who won that bet. But uh,
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: I legit did think they were gonna work because John
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: Henry's just like, he's a simple dude, and I thought
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: he was gonna be able to handle Cat and like
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: and cared too much about, like, you know, how she
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: acts and everything. And I saw how much chemistry they
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: did have in person, so I was like, maybe it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: gonna work. And I was rooting for him too, you know,
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: even in paradise. I told John Henry, I was like, dude,
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: if you're indoor, go for it. You know, she may
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: be different with you than she was with me. And
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: I obviously talked John Henry up to Cat too, So
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I'll let them speak to the time
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: on It sad to see that they broke up too,
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: That's just that sucks.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: You actually thought this was when you thought could work.
• 25:42
  Speaker 7: I did, No one else did, Okay, But was.
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: Your jaw on the floor when he actually proposed because
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: the two of them were together for.
• 25:50
  Speaker 8: Like a week and then he goes like the most.
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: Hilarious proposal moment goes my gut says no, but my
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: heart says yes. If you're starting my proposal with your
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: gut says no, just please stop.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: I know I don't know.
• 26:08
  Speaker 7: Yeah, that was tough.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That was tough.
• 26:11
  Speaker 8: Always go with your gut is a saying.
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: For a reason, a tough scene.
• 26:15
  Speaker 7: I don't know if you meant gut or heart or what.
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: Well.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: So Jill and I were talking about this on the
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: Recap podcast. We said that perhaps he kind of meant like,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: my brain thinks this is crazy, my mind says no,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: but my heart says yes, which sounds better than gut.
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I've always struggled with like I got to follow your
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: heart and you follow your head. It's like, I don't
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: It's hard for me to distinguish the both. I don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: really understand that.
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: You're right, people say follow your head, fall your heart,
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: fill your gut, Like, what do we follow in here?
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: I don't get it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean and two as you and Jel are
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: time that Like, I don't think you start any proposal
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: with this any seat of doubt.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I don't think any.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: Doubt if it's your head, if it's your heart, at
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: your feet, whatever, Like, I just don't.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think you might be like, hey, we'll take
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: take some time here.
• 27:03
  Speaker 7: Yeah it's the last thing. Someone was here like, hey, look,
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: this is a terrible idea.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: But let's get married, make it work.
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: Do you think there's a lot of pressure on him
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: to propose.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: I mean, it doesn't it doesn't seem like I wish
• 27:19
  Speaker 7: I could speak more on that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: I really, I really don't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: Know, because there's really no pressure at that point. It's
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: like they they met pretty late in Paradise. I feel
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: like they're yeah, sure if they were like a week
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: one arrival and they were with each other, but like,
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: you know, they didn't really talk about even dating until
• 27:34
  Speaker 6: like it was like fantasy suites and then there are
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: all of a sudden, he was getting on one knee, So
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know.
• 27:40
  Speaker 8: He was like, we've had no fights, we've really had
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: no deep discussions.
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: But yeah, so.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: Wild that's good for him.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: It didn't work out.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: What was the other really ship coming out? Oh, Aaron
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and Eliza? Do we know officially if they're yeah, they're done,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: they're done.
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: I also didn't feel their love very strongly. Tanner.
• 28:01
  Speaker 7: Uh, you know, their relationship was Tanner.
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 28:05
  Speaker 7: Their relationship was very cat and mouse.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: You know, it was like very like Aaron would be
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: kind of chasing her and Eliza would like, you know,
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: give them a little bit of attention and then they'd
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: be great, and then all of a sudden they wouldn't
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: be talking as much. So their relationship was kind of
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: challenging on the beach. So I would assume if it's
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: challenging there in Paradise, it's going to be challenging outside
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: as well. And apparently it was. You know, I don't
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: know the timeline of when they broke up or like
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: what's going on with them?
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Really, I still need to talk to ab about that,
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: but yeah.
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: It's just, uh, I don't know, it's it's it has
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: to be tough to manage those relationships right outside of Paradise.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: It's a it was a wild season, Tanner. A couple
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: of things I want to rapid fire with you before
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: we say goodbye. Obviously we were very appreciative that you
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: came on the beach. I think, uh, some of these
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: rapid fire questions that we wrote down, I think I
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: could answer. If you were to say, who would you
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: wish you would have pursued on the beach, I think
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: the answer to that is yes, right, yeah, yeah, who
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: started the most drama in Paradise?
• 29:15
  Speaker 8: Kat more than Olivia.
• 29:18
  Speaker 6: Oh, I love Olivia is my best friend from the
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: beach honestly, like, I love Olivia even though she like
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: was involved with the drama and the commentary was everything,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: like she is just telling it how it is.
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: I love I love that girl.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: Did you follow that drama the other night on Instagram?
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: M TikTok or whatnot?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: I literally said, it wasn't it wasn't even involved. It
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: had nothing to do with her.
• 29:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, But then Cat got all defensive, like, why would
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: you post a video about paradise like the day I
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: announced my breakup?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know everybody's breaking up every day right now?
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: You nearly time it perfectly exactly.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: And I know for a fact Olivia and a Cat
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: like they don't talk every day. It's not like there
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: was an agreement like I'm gonna do this. Livia is
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: just postally. I think she reposted it TikTok about herself.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Too, So that's what I thought.
• 30:04
  Speaker 5: Okay is overreaction probably most likely Okay more rapid fire. Ye,
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: which contestant got the drunkest most often?
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: I'm saying myself, what was the drinking choice?
• 30:28
  Speaker 7: Oh my god?
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: I mean depends on the time, but I mean I'm
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: drinking mimosas and then honestly tequila SODA's most of the day,
• 30:35
  Speaker 6: and then at night maybe switched to red wine just
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: to change it.
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: Up a little bit.
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: But there was some scenes where I was watching on tevas, like,
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: oh geez, I got to get my together.
• 30:44
  Speaker 8: I never noticed it from you.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: Some cloud clouds in the eyes.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I get that. Oh my god. Yeah, so probably me. Unfortunately,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: how does Wells do?
• 30:52
  Speaker 7: It?
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Makes him? Drink?
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: Wells is the best.
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: Honestly, if I can go back and just talk to
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: Wells the whole time, I probably would.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: He's got to have heavy poor that's great.
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: Oh so so Olivia said that Wells like was pouring
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: really heavy. But then one time, because he kept getting
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: this criticism from her, he gave her like a drink
• 31:11
  Speaker 5: without anything in it, without any alcohol, and she still
• 31:14
  Speaker 5: complained it was too strong, and he was like, you
• 31:18
  Speaker 5: just think that alcohol Apparently like that orange juice tastes
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: like alcohol.
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: That's because there's nothing in there but orange juice.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is I.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I got that story months ago from Wells where he
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: told me that He's like, yeah, she complained it was
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: so heavy, so strong, and so he's like, I made
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: it less and less every time. Finally I made sure
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to do it on camera. I made a drink, gave
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: it to her, and she still went, oh, this is
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: so strong.
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: He's like, roll back the footage.
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, she's so dramatic. Oh, Ben, you might have some
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: insider scoop for me. So early, I think before Paradise
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: even aired this year, Wells said that someone was being
• 31:55
  Speaker 6: rude to him like the cast because and I need
• 31:57
  Speaker 6: to know who it was, because that would piss me
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: off so bad, because I always felt bad going up
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: to Wells and ordering a drink, like he'd be talking
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: to a group of people and you know I need
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: another one. I'm like, I don't want to like make
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: him get me a drink he's talking. So I was
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: always super like cautious of like, hey, like Wells, whenever
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: your time, cant you a drink? No big deal, It's okay.
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I know you're busy.
• 32:19
  Speaker 7: But who do you know who is being rude to
• 32:21
  Speaker 7: him on my season?
• 32:22
  Speaker 3: I do know. I won't say names. I will tell
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: you it's not you by any means.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: In fact, then give us a headline.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Come on, I can't give you a headline. I can't
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: do that.
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: Okay, can I guess though?
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: It was that guy who I don't even remember his name,
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: but he was the one that like threw the secret box.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: Interesting. I can't do that to a buddy, you know.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: WELLS and I talk about this show very little, but
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: when I was due, it's it's a place of secrecy,
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: and I swear to him, I will never say anything
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: about it. I will say when he comes off of
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: the season, usually for whatever reason, it's been a month
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: since I've seen him, I'll meet up with him. And
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: he did mention a few guys yourself included that he
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: just enjoys talking to Like I think he likes it
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: when there's people there that just really genuinely want to
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: like talk and hang out, and I think he appreciates that.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But yes, there was a there was this season more
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: than any. He came back and was like, yeah, there's
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: some people give me a hard time, Like I don't
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: know why, Like it's ridiculous, why are you giving me
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: a hard time. I'm just there to you know, make
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: drinks and talk to people.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: So he's the best.
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's the man.
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: And uh, like I said, I was super nervous when
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: I heard that. I'm like if he thinks that I
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: was rude, then like I think of my power for
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: Wells Adams to like me at this?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: No, no, now you at all?
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: All right?
• 33:44
  Speaker 7: Cool, Well we'll talk offline.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: We'll figure that out.
• 33:47
  Speaker 8: Okay, Well, Tanner, thank you so much for joining us.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: This is really fun and quite insightful.
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really good. Problem. Yeah, anytime, guys. It was
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: nice to meet you. Guys. Have been following you guys
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: for a while, so it is cool.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Tanner, appreciate it.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Come back. Hopefully see you get on the beach. I
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: don't know, hopefully you have a girlfriend by then. And
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: also I've I've enjoyed following along as I was doing
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: my research that you know, you and Sam and some
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: of these others you know are doing some cool stuff together.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: If anything, friendship came from this season, which is something
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: to celebrate.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, one hundred percent came back with a lot of
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: show or a lot of friends from the Bachelorette and
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: uh and even more from Paradise.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: So thank great.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: All right, Well thanks the next time I've been Ashley,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: I've been Ben Tanner, close us.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Out, see you guys.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Bye, That works perfect, see you man.
• 34:35
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• 34:39
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