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SPEAKER_01: Good afternoon.
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SPEAKER_01: What's going on, everyone?
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Diogenes Club.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm Nick Paro,
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SPEAKER_01: founder here at Sick of this Shit Publications,
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SPEAKER_01: joined by my good friend, Doc Eric Lulove, medical subject matter expert.
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SPEAKER_01: We're missing Evan today.
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SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Who?
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SPEAKER_01: Evan who?
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SPEAKER_01: Evan, let's talk about Evan Fields.
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SPEAKER_01: I just had a great talk with Evan.
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SPEAKER_01: He's out.
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SPEAKER_01: He's got another thing to do right now.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll miss him today.
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SPEAKER_01: He'll be back sometime.
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SPEAKER_01: Eric, how are you?
1:14
SPEAKER_00: How's your week?
1:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm much better.
1:16
SPEAKER_00: I got over my little GI thingy-me-kababby that I was getting.
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SPEAKER_00: Good.
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SPEAKER_00: Much better.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, we keep on living, right?
1:27
SPEAKER_01: Well, we're trying to anyway.
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SPEAKER_01: That's the goal.
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SPEAKER_00: So really good news that the House and Senate are taking up the Olmstead debate
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SPEAKER_00: and hopefully start discussing real disability coverage and codifying
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SPEAKER_00: that shit finally.
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SPEAKER_01: Their response so far has been very tepid.
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SPEAKER_00: It's tepid.
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SPEAKER_00: Because, well, rule number one is you saw this other shit this morning with the House, right?
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SPEAKER_00: That the House passed by 216 or 218 to 212 to pull the demanding,
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SPEAKER_00: they're basically telling Trump to get out of Iran,
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SPEAKER_00: pull all military apparatus out of the theater.
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SPEAKER_01: Good.
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SPEAKER_01: We should have never gone.
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SPEAKER_01: Bingo.
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SPEAKER_01: But, you know.
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SPEAKER_01: So what this is doing, though, is this is accomplishing their goal of isolationism.
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SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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SPEAKER_01: And regionalization.
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SPEAKER_01: They want us,
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SPEAKER_01: they want to get us out of the Middle East,
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SPEAKER_01: which in itself,
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SPEAKER_01: getting out of that region of the world wouldn't be
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SPEAKER_01: a terribly bad thing financially.
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SPEAKER_01: Well, not like we're really ever- We've pumped a ton of,
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SPEAKER_01: we're never leaving,
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SPEAKER_01: but we've pumped so much money into there that could have been used
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SPEAKER_01: for other things.
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SPEAKER_01: And now Pete Hanks wants billions more dollars could have done here.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like we have taken away our
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SPEAKER_01: health our tools for health care,
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SPEAKER_01: for food,
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SPEAKER_01: for food quality control, for health quality control, for any quality control.
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SPEAKER_01: For environmental controls, for all of our services.
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SPEAKER_01: We've given all of these things up so that we can give money to the Trumps.
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SPEAKER_01: Today is a nepotism episode.
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SPEAKER_01: Hey, Naida, welcome everyone in the
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SPEAKER_00: chat.
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SPEAKER_01: Today we're finally going to talk about, how about that nepotism though?
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SPEAKER_01: Because, you know, we can't get shit.
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SPEAKER_00: The American people can't
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SPEAKER_01: get anything.
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SPEAKER_01: Our services are being dismantled and taken away and ruined and discarded and all of the above.
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SPEAKER_01: But the Trump boys can get contracts for billions of dollars.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's not talk about Hunter Biden's 100 grand.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Don't forget Hunter Biden's laptop, y'all.
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SPEAKER_01: The dick pics.
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SPEAKER_01: One, I think now that Marjorie Taylor Greene is not in Congress,
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SPEAKER_01: he should sue her for unsolicited or basically revenge porn is what it is.
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SPEAKER_01: Used her seat as a member of Congress
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SPEAKER_01: to have revenge porn and enrich herself off of it.
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SPEAKER_01: I think Hunter Biden would have full right to sue her, and I think he should.
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SPEAKER_01: Not because I care about Hunter.
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, sure, Hunter's an interesting dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I've gotten to listen in on a discussion with him and be in the background and say hi to him.
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SPEAKER_01: He's an interesting dude.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't love the guy.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm just going to read this for you.
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SPEAKER_01: I think the irony of it would be what is necessary.
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SPEAKER_01: Put the fucking point out there.
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SPEAKER_00: He needs to sue her for $15 to $20 million because I'll tell you why.
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SPEAKER_00: Marjorie Taylor Greene's estimated net worth was approximately $700,000 based
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SPEAKER_00: on reported stock holdings prior to entering Congress and an increase to
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SPEAKER_00: an estimated $22 to $25 million by the end of her term in 2025.
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SPEAKER_00: The growth is primarily attributed to her 51% stake
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SPEAKER_00: in her family's construction firm, Taylor Commercial.
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SPEAKER_00: Alongside real estate holdings and an active stock portfolio,
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SPEAKER_00: Green has stated that her wealth is the result of private business ownership
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SPEAKER_00: and private investments rather than her government service.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, how the fuck did you get to 22 billion, 22 million dollars?
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SPEAKER_01: Why is she making private investments as a government?
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SPEAKER_01: Why was she making private investments as a government employee anyway?
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_01: Your job is service to the government, not enrichment.
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SPEAKER_00: Her stock trades were managed by financial advisors,
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SPEAKER_00: but had included significant investments and generated returns
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SPEAKER_00: in major companies like Amazon, Nvidia, Apple.
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SPEAKER_00: And shares related to Trump's social media ventures.
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SPEAKER_00: Ta-da!
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SPEAKER_00: Mic drop.
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SPEAKER_01: There you go.
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SPEAKER_01: It all comes back to making money for the Trump family and how much money can
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SPEAKER_01: the Trump family make off of all of this.
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SPEAKER_01: And it's the same thing with RFK.
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SPEAKER_01: Like, how much money can RFK make off all of this?
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SPEAKER_01: Because I bet you...
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SPEAKER_01: The testosterone therapy that they want to give all of our service members,
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SPEAKER_01: the steroids that they're going to pump our service members full of and cause them
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SPEAKER_01: to become sterile.
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SPEAKER_01: They're worried
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SPEAKER_01: about white men becoming white people not having high enough birth rate,
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SPEAKER_01: and they are actively recruiting white men,
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SPEAKER_01: specifically racist white men,
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SPEAKER_01: to the military,
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SPEAKER_01: and then they want to inject them full of steroids,
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SPEAKER_01: which will make them sterile,
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SPEAKER_01: and then The birth rate is going to continue to go down for white men
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SPEAKER_01: because white men will be sterile and we're going to sit here.
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SPEAKER_01: We didn't say they were basing this on medical
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SPEAKER_00: science now, did we?
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SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're basing it on eugenic science, which none of that makes sense.
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SPEAKER_01: Which is racist.
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SPEAKER_01: Racism as science.
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SPEAKER_00: We have discussed this.
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SPEAKER_00: You know me with my eugenic shit, right?
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SPEAKER_00: I'm a massive, massive...
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SPEAKER_01: This also relates to the Trumps, too, because the Trumps are eugenicists.
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SPEAKER_01: The Trump boys are absolutely
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SPEAKER_00: eugenicists.
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SPEAKER_01: Trump is the KKK
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SPEAKER_00: platform.
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SPEAKER_00: But let me make this very clear for me so I can spell it out where we're at.
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SPEAKER_00: This was basically the three steps of Project 2025 with every government agency,
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SPEAKER_00: which was one,
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SPEAKER_00: which was deplete the workforce so that
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SPEAKER_00: the agency cannot basically function adequately.
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SPEAKER_00: Then number two was to privatize the agency.
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SPEAKER_00: So let's let's see where they've been privatizing.
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SPEAKER_00: DHS, obviously.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Interior has been privatized.
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SPEAKER_00: State Department, Treasury,
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SPEAKER_00: Education,
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SPEAKER_00: HHS with Medicare Advantage.
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SPEAKER_00: The VA. Defense Department.
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SPEAKER_01: We have started privatizing the VA.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So those are the first two steps.
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SPEAKER_00: You wipe out the workforce and then you privatize it.
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SPEAKER_00: Then once you have privatization of an agency,
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SPEAKER_00: then you can eugenicize the population that relies on that agency.
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SPEAKER_01: Yes.
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SPEAKER_00: This is why, this is, this was, listen, we all fucking said it.
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SPEAKER_00: We all said it.
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SPEAKER_00: Project 2025, we all warned everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: We all said it's,
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SPEAKER_00: and this is typical fucking Americans where I don't care
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SPEAKER_00: because it doesn't affect me.
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SPEAKER_00: It doesn't hit me directly, so I don't care.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, guess what?
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SPEAKER_01: It does.
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SPEAKER_00: Guess what?
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SPEAKER_01: You know what hits everybody directly is fucking the Olmstead decision.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to bring this back because I think this is the most
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SPEAKER_01: important piece of assault on our rights that people are not taking seriously enough
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SPEAKER_01: at the moment,
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SPEAKER_01: which is Olmstead.
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SPEAKER_01: A 1999 Olmstead decision made it so that states
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SPEAKER_01: and territories could not forcibly institutionalize people against their will.
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SPEAKER_01: By causing in-home care and least restrictive service to be the preferred and default status.
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SPEAKER_01: Least restrictive.
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SPEAKER_01: That impacted prison systems.
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SPEAKER_01: That impacted sentencing.
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SPEAKER_01: I've been speaking with Naida Green a lot on this.
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SPEAKER_01: This has a lot of impacts outside of just medical stuff.
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SPEAKER_01: So, so, so.
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SPEAKER_01: And people don't think about it.
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SPEAKER_01: People do not think about the ramifications out of the first part.
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SPEAKER_01: However...
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SPEAKER_01: If you talk to people about disability rights and you start just talking about
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SPEAKER_01: the basic human right of it and the institutionalization,
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SPEAKER_01: one, Olmstead impacts everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: Because everybody knows or is disabled.
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SPEAKER_01: Know someone who is or is disabled.
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SPEAKER_01: Every single person.
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SPEAKER_01: I can guarantee everybody knows somebody who is disabled.
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SPEAKER_01: And it would impact them.
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SPEAKER_01: And they know it too.
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SPEAKER_01: And people know that too.
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SPEAKER_01: And they finally, this is literally the issue that hit home.
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SPEAKER_01: This is the issue that once you start talking about it,
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SPEAKER_01: once you start talking about disability fundamental,
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SPEAKER_01: disability rights and basic human rights about this,
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SPEAKER_01: and the warehousing that is coming because of it, we call it warehousing.
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SPEAKER_01: Another word for it is a concentration camp.
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SPEAKER_01: Concentration camp with a roof.
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SPEAKER_01: With a roof.
11:23
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: In a big warehouse.
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SPEAKER_01: Instead of having your Amazon drones and packages delivered,
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SPEAKER_01: they'll have Amazon drones and shit guarding the damn place.
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SPEAKER_01: Maybe not Amazon, but power.
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SPEAKER_00: I want to clarify something, Nick, real quick, because think about the disability community.
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SPEAKER_00: The first thing that people always think about is physical disability.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
11:43
SPEAKER_00: And that's not the case here.
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SPEAKER_00: We have people who are,
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SPEAKER_00: who have not just physical disabilities,
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SPEAKER_00: but also have learning disability, who also have mental disabilities.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: We have social disabilities.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's not just physical.
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SPEAKER_00: It's everybody.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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SPEAKER_01: Everybody.
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SPEAKER_01: And it is the pattern, the US pattern of eugenics based protest suppression.
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SPEAKER_01: Punishing people who are trying to protest for basic rights.
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SPEAKER_01: We have protest psychosis.
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SPEAKER_01: We have going all the way back to slavery when they would cut the toes off of slaves
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SPEAKER_01: who ran away over and over and over because God forbid somebody wants to live free
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SPEAKER_01: and not be a slave to somebody else.
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SPEAKER_01: But that was a disease so that white people could maintain their power structure,
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SPEAKER_01: the Confederacy, because what we are facing is the KKK platform.
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SPEAKER_01: Written down as Project 2025.
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SPEAKER_00: It's fucking Nazism.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it is not.
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SPEAKER_01: No, it is not.
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SPEAKER_01: It is older.
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SPEAKER_01: It is Confederacy.
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SPEAKER_01: This is old Confederacy.
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SPEAKER_00: Nazis, I
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SPEAKER_01: get it.
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SPEAKER_01: Nazis are the easy...
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SPEAKER_01: I only push back on this because you and I can have this.
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SPEAKER_01: This is a more nuanced... We both agree on the end point of this.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_01: I think we need to stop using Nazism as the default that we go to when we discuss that.
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SPEAKER_00: It's fucking racist no matter what.
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SPEAKER_00: It's racist.
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SPEAKER_01: I know,
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SPEAKER_01: but we have to hit home on what the American side of this is or we're never going
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SPEAKER_01: to actually solve
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SPEAKER_00: the problem.
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SPEAKER_01: Because when we talk about Nazis,
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SPEAKER_01: but when we talk about Nazism,
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SPEAKER_01: we're putting the blame on Germans and on Europeans for having fascism
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SPEAKER_01: and spreading it.
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SPEAKER_01: And yes, they were to blame for what they did.
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SPEAKER_01: And we need to own up to what we are doing and And call it what it is,
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SPEAKER_01: is this is the new Confederacy.
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SPEAKER_01: This is older than Nazism.
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SPEAKER_01: Nazism was inspired by it and made it, I guess, perfected it in their own way, the eugenics.
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SPEAKER_01: They made it more accessible for these folks.
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SPEAKER_01: But U.S. eugenics fueled Nazi eugenics.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So this is that lost card that the Confederates used after the war.
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SPEAKER_00: Because what happened was the denazification never really...
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SPEAKER_00: It never fully happened here because the Confederacy fought to preserve chattel slavery.
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SPEAKER_00: As a result, the recast of the Confederate leaders as the lost cause narrative.
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SPEAKER_00: And because the Union stopped short of completely remaking Southern society after
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SPEAKER_00: the Civil War, the South retained all of its cultural identity.
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SPEAKER_00: And which is why we had that shit happen in Charlottesville, January 6th.
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SPEAKER_00: The Confederate legacy is still a controversial,
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SPEAKER_00: but Unfortunately, it is legally protected American free speech.
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SPEAKER_01: Then fine, and that's good.
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SPEAKER_01: At the moment, fine.
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SPEAKER_01: If they want to have it as legally protected free speech around confederacy stuff,
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SPEAKER_01: then I can tear into the confederacy.
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SPEAKER_01: And we need to.
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SPEAKER_01: We need to address our own history.
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SPEAKER_01: It's the same thing about the argument about Talking about other wars.
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SPEAKER_01: And I'm not going to discuss any of the other shit that's going on right now
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SPEAKER_01: on Substack because I don't give a shit.
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SPEAKER_01: It is not my lane.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So Jane put a question in the chat.
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SPEAKER_00: Do we call them fascists or just plain racists?
15:32
SPEAKER_00: You know what?
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SPEAKER_00: I don't care what we fucking call them.
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SPEAKER_01: Just call them out.
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SPEAKER_01: Call them whatever you want to call them.
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SPEAKER_01: Call them either or.
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SPEAKER_01: We're just talking about like my point here is In the end,
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SPEAKER_01: we lose the importance of the American component of this story if we focus
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SPEAKER_01: on Nazism itself because it's older than that.
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SPEAKER_01: It is not just an American problem.
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SPEAKER_01: No, absolutely.
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SPEAKER_01: There's other forms of this
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SPEAKER_00: type of Fascistic system
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SPEAKER_00: and totalitarianistic system
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SPEAKER_01: throughout history.
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SPEAKER_00: We're just really good at it.
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SPEAKER_00: The Roman Empire, the Chinese, Mao, Genghis Khan...
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, Alexander, we can go all the way back to Greek history.
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SPEAKER_00: And there's slaves, the Egyptians and the Hebrews.
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SPEAKER_01: And let's just, for the moment, let's fix our own house before we fix other people's houses.
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SPEAKER_01: Because if we fix our house,
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SPEAKER_01: I guarantee you, we will fix a lot of other people's houses in the process.
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SPEAKER_01: Because when we fix our house, we stop funding that shit.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm laughing at Nia doesn't know that she just put in the chat.
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SPEAKER_00: I read it.
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SPEAKER_00: It's serious, but it's funny the way she worded it.
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SPEAKER_00: And she wrote,
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SPEAKER_00: the U.S.
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SPEAKER_00: is a colonizer state because Europeans brought this trash here in the first place.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's funny, it's true, but it's just the language she used.
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SPEAKER_00: And thank you, Nia, because I need a little laugh right now.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's good language.
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SPEAKER_00: One word made that whole statement.
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SPEAKER_00: Yes, and
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SPEAKER_01: Some of us were okay.
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SPEAKER_01: Not all of us were trash when we came over.
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SPEAKER_01: We probably were at the time.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to defend my ancestors and what they did.
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SPEAKER_01: But I can defend my actions, so I won't defend, I don't have to defend theirs.
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SPEAKER_01: Mine were not part of any of the slavery chain, just to be very, very clear.
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SPEAKER_01: My family is from Vermont area and New England and Canada,
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SPEAKER_01: and we never were participants in that.
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SPEAKER_01: So I'm going to be very clear.
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SPEAKER_01: My family was never slave owners,
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SPEAKER_01: and I'm proud to say that we don't have that tradition in my family.
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SPEAKER_00: Neither mind.
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SPEAKER_01: My family is a bunch of Immigrants, too.
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SPEAKER_01: And my family has native
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SPEAKER_01: and tribal roots, like very, very loose at this point.
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SPEAKER_01: I would not claim anyone.
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SPEAKER_01: We need to right the wrongs of our ancestors, not claim them as our own.
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SPEAKER_01: I don't want to claim the wrongs of my ancestors.
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SPEAKER_00: I also think that by righting the wrongs of our ancestors is by holding...
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SPEAKER_00: This fucking administration and all the people responsible for what's happened,
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SPEAKER_00: hold them to task,
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SPEAKER_00: hold them to count and you sling them into court and you fucking freeze their assets
18:46
SPEAKER_00: and you take their passports and you basically say,
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SPEAKER_00: you're not fucking going anywhere till we're done with you.
18:53
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
18:54
SPEAKER_00: And that's how that goes.
18:55
SPEAKER_00: And I don't give a shit if Trump thinks that he can fucking fly to Scotland
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SPEAKER_00: and go play golf somewhere.
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SPEAKER_01: No, they deserve a sell without an exit plan until the American people and
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SPEAKER_01: the justice system have had the entire time it needs to fully reconcile
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SPEAKER_01: and move forward.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: The nepotism of the Trump family and the
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SPEAKER_01: The nepotism of the old Confederacy is the problem.
19:39
SPEAKER_01: They're the problem.
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SPEAKER_01: The nepotism that is going on is the problem.
19:44
SPEAKER_01: And we need to fix our own house.
19:47
SPEAKER_01: Before we fix anybody else's and
19:50
SPEAKER_01: when we fix our own house we will fix other people's houses in the process
19:56
SPEAKER_01: because our number one export is our governmental system and our ideology behind it
20:04
SPEAKER_01: and if we continue exporting fascism we're never going to end fascism.
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SPEAKER_01: It's our problem to solve.
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SPEAKER_01: Just saying, like the Trump platform mirrored the KKK platform.
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SPEAKER_01: His dad was part of the KKK.
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SPEAKER_01: Like the Trump family.
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SPEAKER_00: I got to answer the front door.
20:23
SPEAKER_00: I'll be right back.
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SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you're good.
20:26
SPEAKER_01: You're like the whole aspect of this is in the end is we're not trying to.
20:34
SPEAKER_01: I don't want to claim the wrongs of my ancestors.
20:38
SPEAKER_01: I don't want other people to.
20:42
SPEAKER_01: Have to feel the guilt of their ancestors if they didn't participate
20:48
SPEAKER_01: and they never learned it and they learned to not do it.
20:52
SPEAKER_01: Like most of our ancestors suck and we don't have to suck.
20:58
SPEAKER_01: We can suck less.
21:01
SPEAKER_01: Like we can right these wrongs by actually doing and doing the tasks that we need to
21:11
SPEAKER_01: to To fix things.
21:14
SPEAKER_01: And that is not take away all of our fucking basic human rights.
21:17
SPEAKER_01: That is not give all of our money to single families.
21:21
SPEAKER_01: That is the exact opposite.
21:23
SPEAKER_01: It is to actually live up to the idea that this is a common wealth and
21:29
SPEAKER_01: a collective wealth of people.
21:31
SPEAKER_01: And e pluribus unum means out of anyone,
21:34
SPEAKER_01: where we all pool our wealth and then we all get something in return.
21:38
SPEAKER_01: Because the government is a service and it serves us and not just one family
21:43
SPEAKER_01: or two families like the RFK and Trumps and the Millers and the Vances and the Teals
21:55
SPEAKER_01: and the Musks and the Zuckerbergs and the Bezoses.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: The last robber barons were forced to build shit.
22:05
SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
22:06
SPEAKER_01: We can do that, too.
22:07
SPEAKER_01: We can force them off the pegs that they're on,
22:11
SPEAKER_01: take all of
22:12
SPEAKER_01: them out from under them and hold them to account, go to court.
22:16
SPEAKER_01: We take them to court.
22:17
SPEAKER_01: Like, Eric, your idea is the exact right one.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: And it's also the one that, you know, I know I've got a lot of
22:24
SPEAKER_00: what you're referring to.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: Want to talk about the day, so just you have to specify.
22:29
SPEAKER_01: Want to talk about that?
22:33
SPEAKER_01: You want to talk about what could have stopped Nazis
22:37
SPEAKER_01: and talk about Nazism?
22:39
SPEAKER_01: It's had the court system held up and actually done its job
22:43
SPEAKER_01: and lawyers had done their jobs and just sued and upheld the law that was existing
22:48
SPEAKER_01: at the time.
22:50
SPEAKER_01: They wouldn't have risen.
22:52
SPEAKER_01: Nazis would not have risen to power had the court system not folded.
22:58
SPEAKER_01: We have the power to learn that lesson ahead of time.
23:01
SPEAKER_01: We already learned it from World War II and what happened in Germany.
23:05
SPEAKER_01: We can go to the next step without the dying part.
23:09
SPEAKER_01: We don't have to do the war part.
23:12
SPEAKER_01: We have laws on the book that say if you are premeditating to do this,
23:17
SPEAKER_01: planning to have a genocide,
23:20
SPEAKER_01: Planning to kill off all these people,
23:23
SPEAKER_01: planning to do this,
23:24
SPEAKER_01: and you are going to use power,
23:26
SPEAKER_01: and here's how you're going to do it, and you've written it down.
23:28
SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
23:29
SPEAKER_01: That's a RICO case.
23:31
SPEAKER_01: You're a criminal conspiracy.
23:33
SPEAKER_01: You are a criminal organization trying to
23:36
SPEAKER_00: murder people.
23:39
SPEAKER_00: I've been saying every single one of these criminal acts falls under RICO.
23:45
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: It's all about the money.
23:49
SPEAKER_00: So even after he leaves office,
23:51
SPEAKER_00: he gets one penny from anything that was done illegally while he was in office.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: He's no longer in office.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: And then Rico applies.
24:01
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
24:02
SPEAKER_01: Also, the
24:05
SPEAKER_01: Supreme Court case giving him immunity is overturnable.
24:11
SPEAKER_01: Like super easy.
24:12
SPEAKER_01: So I don't even talk about that because that's not real law.
24:16
SPEAKER_01: That's just like that's fake law to try and protect.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: Well, imagine what would happen on January 21st,
24:23
SPEAKER_00: 2029 with a Democratic Congress and they unanimously pass a new law.
24:28
SPEAKER_01: You mean 2027?
24:30
SPEAKER_00: No, 29, because we'd have to have the president to sign it.
24:33
SPEAKER_00: OK, otherwise you have to make it veto proof.
24:37
SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, January 22nd, after they have impeached and removed the regime.
24:43
SPEAKER_00: But imagine what would happen if Congress passed a bill,
24:46
SPEAKER_00: both houses, okay,
24:48
SPEAKER_00: that said the president,
24:49
SPEAKER_00: regardless of any judicial decision prior, okay,
24:54
SPEAKER_00: is not above the law and can be held criminally for any acts while in office
25:02
SPEAKER_00: as deemed reasonable And unjustifiable by the Attorney General.
25:10
SPEAKER_00: Or some sort of judicial review panel.
25:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
25:14
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
25:18
SPEAKER_01: They could just start the treason proceedings and lock them away.
25:27
SPEAKER_01: So here's the thing.
25:28
SPEAKER_01: And bring about the criminal proceedings as it's going to because
25:32
SPEAKER_01: The congressional side can do that without the criminal justice side there yet.
25:38
SPEAKER_00: Preason means that subvertively going to war against the United States.
25:45
SPEAKER_01: I would think that a criminal conspiracy to murder two-thirds of the population,
25:50
SPEAKER_01: because that's the Yarvinist theory that they are basing all of this on,
25:54
SPEAKER_01: which is part of the eugenics theory, is...
25:59
SPEAKER_01: That the U.S.
26:00
SPEAKER_01: is supposed to have a maximum population of 100 million people,
26:03
SPEAKER_01: and we currently have 340-ish million people,
26:06
SPEAKER_01: which means 240 million of us would either need to be deported or taken care of
26:12
SPEAKER_01: in some way so that we are no longer part of the population
26:16
SPEAKER_01: and not sucking resources in any way, shape or form.
26:20
SPEAKER_01: That requires genocide, just so we're clear.
26:24
SPEAKER_01: And the...
26:30
SPEAKER_01: Nick, I gotta jump on for a second.
26:31
SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry.
26:32
SPEAKER_01: Okay, you're good, brother.
26:33
SPEAKER_01: And if we're using policy as a weapon,
26:37
SPEAKER_01: like specifically stating that our policy is we will kill Americans,
26:47
SPEAKER_01: I'm pretty sure that's levying war against America.
26:52
SPEAKER_01: I think the government...
26:59
SPEAKER_01: Purposely murdering its own population is it levying war against the people.
27:03
SPEAKER_01: I don't know what else to call that.
27:08
SPEAKER_01: And that would be treason to me.
27:13
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they've been planning to bomb Cuba for a while, Nero.
27:16
SPEAKER_01: Part of this, too, is if they take...
27:24
SPEAKER_01: Are we actively bombing Cuba?
27:28
SPEAKER_01: Cause that would be,
27:29
SPEAKER_01: that would be, um,
27:33
SPEAKER_01: but like if you're,
27:34
SPEAKER_01: if you're,
27:35
SPEAKER_01: if your policy is eugenics and it's to kill off the population
27:40
SPEAKER_01: and your implementation strategy
27:45
SPEAKER_01: is to murder,
27:48
SPEAKER_01: like you are implementing it and it's causing deaths.
27:52
SPEAKER_01: One, it's a criminal conspiracy.
27:54
SPEAKER_01: If you're making money off of it and profiting off of it, which they are.
27:58
SPEAKER_01: It's illegal, and you're murdering people.
28:00
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, treason.
28:02
SPEAKER_01: I don't really know what else to call what they're doing.
28:06
SPEAKER_00: It's levying war against the people, which the sole purpose of the government is to
28:11
SPEAKER_01: protect the American population and
28:13
SPEAKER_01: to protect its citizenry,
28:18
SPEAKER_01: and it's not doing that, and it's purposely doing the opposite.
28:21
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
28:25
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I don't know what else to call that.
28:31
SPEAKER_01: The thing is like whatever we have for you and on the judicial side is
28:36
SPEAKER_01: the judicial side right now is captured on a Supreme Court level and
28:39
SPEAKER_01: that can be fixed and should be fixed by capture by us,
28:44
SPEAKER_01: the people recapturing the House and Senate and Impeach,
28:51
SPEAKER_01: convicting,
28:51
SPEAKER_01: and removing them from their positions in their offices and expanding the court so
28:58
SPEAKER_01: that it actually fits the number of
29:05
SPEAKER_01: districts overall, whatever they call them.
29:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm not on the legal side.
29:09
SPEAKER_01: That's not my lane.
29:12
SPEAKER_01: But whatever they have for court districts, we should be expanding the court.
29:21
SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: I'm still sitting on this ALJ
29:24
SPEAKER_01: hearing.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: And the medical director for Palmetto,
29:28
SPEAKER_00: which is basically like South Carolina, North Carolina, and North Virginia.
29:33
SPEAKER_00: So this is the medical director speaking,
29:35
SPEAKER_00: and he's kind of like lying through his teeth right now.
29:38
SPEAKER_00: So I'm having to kind of hear this and do this at the same time.
29:43
SPEAKER_01: You can drop off if you need to, man.
29:45
SPEAKER_01: If we need to start at this half an hour mark, it's okay.
29:49
SPEAKER_01: Like, that's totally fine.
29:51
SPEAKER_01: I'm good right now.
29:53
SPEAKER_00: It's just interesting because everybody in
29:58
SPEAKER_00: the audience doesn't hear these conversations and hear how
30:02
SPEAKER_00: the Medicare administrative contractors literally try to twist the narrative
30:06
SPEAKER_00: so they can fit their argument when they're trying to basically deny payment to
30:11
SPEAKER_00: a provider.
30:13
SPEAKER_00: And in this particular case,
30:14
SPEAKER_00: this is like one of these cases where like Palmetto doesn't have a coverage policy
30:17
SPEAKER_00: for the therapy.
30:19
SPEAKER_00: So they're trying to create one because it's all about the money.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
30:25
SPEAKER_00: It's just, it's just, it's
30:30
SPEAKER_01: always about the money.
30:31
SPEAKER_01: The nepotism, the cronyism.
30:33
SPEAKER_01: That's, those are, those are hallmarks.
30:38
SPEAKER_00: The only thing I want to bring up is I kind of,
30:40
SPEAKER_00: I had a post and I did a live the other day on the Medicare Physician Fee Schedule.
30:44
SPEAKER_00: And while this does not apply to everybody,
30:46
SPEAKER_00: this applies to everybody because just like Olmstead affects everybody,
30:50
SPEAKER_00: so does this.
30:52
SPEAKER_00: And what happens is when the government issues the Medicare Fee Schedule,
30:55
SPEAKER_00: which they're legally bound to do every year,
30:57
SPEAKER_00: they re-evaluate the budget and issue a fee schedule.
31:01
SPEAKER_00: So there are three fee schedules.
31:02
SPEAKER_00: There's actually four, actually.
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Actually, there's five.
31:05
SPEAKER_00: So there's the hospital outpatient fee schedule,
31:07
SPEAKER_00: the inpatient fee schedule,
31:09
SPEAKER_00: the durable medical fee schedule,
31:11
SPEAKER_00: and then the home health fee schedule, and then the physician fee schedule.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: So Medicare basically pays providers out of those five buckets.
31:21
SPEAKER_00: And it's both part A and part B.
31:22
SPEAKER_00: Part A is hospital inpatient.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: Part B is all outpatient services.
31:27
SPEAKER_00: And then,
31:27
SPEAKER_00: so when they come up,
31:29
SPEAKER_00: so imagine being in a job where you haven't had a raise since 2001.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: That's every Medicare physician in the country.
31:38
SPEAKER_00: Every physician that accepts Medicare has not had a cost of living increase or
31:42
SPEAKER_00: a raise since 2001.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: Before I even entered clinical practice, my reimbursements have gone like this every year.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: My costs reporting my practice have gone up.
31:56
SPEAKER_00: So what do you think happens when this is going down and that's going up
31:59
SPEAKER_00: and it's basic economics?
32:01
SPEAKER_00: Eventually at one point you're underwater, right, financially.
32:04
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:05
SPEAKER_00: And this is the eugenics of what they're trying to do to outpatient hospitals,
32:09
SPEAKER_00: not even hospitals, outpatient physicians.
32:12
SPEAKER_00: This is your your private physician.
32:14
SPEAKER_00: This is your specialist.
32:15
SPEAKER_00: This is your dermatologist,
32:16
SPEAKER_00: your podiatrist,
32:17
SPEAKER_00: your cardiologist,
32:19
SPEAKER_00: you know,
32:20
SPEAKER_00: where they're going to they're making it literally untenable to be
32:22
SPEAKER_00: in private practice.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: And they want to shift everything back to the hospital, which costs more money.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:32
SPEAKER_00: So I have a post on my feed, everybody.
32:34
SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm shamelessly promoting myself.
32:38
SPEAKER_00: There is a JPEG file I put in a post on the whole list
32:41
SPEAKER_00: of every congressional congressman and senator that has control over CMS with
32:46
SPEAKER_00: a little blurby.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: You can call.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: And just say that little blurby and just say that this is what's affecting
32:54
SPEAKER_00: and I want you to stop it.
32:56
SPEAKER_00: You can just make one phone call for me.
32:58
SPEAKER_00: That's all I'm asking for is for everybody to make one phone call out of that list.
33:02
SPEAKER_00: I'll repost it after the show.
33:04
SPEAKER_00: But it's really basic.
33:06
SPEAKER_00: And if you're not in the jurisdiction with anybody that's on the committee,
33:10
SPEAKER_00: call somebody who's near you.
33:13
SPEAKER_00: You know,
33:13
SPEAKER_00: if you live in Wyoming and you don't have the Wyoming congressman,
33:16
SPEAKER_00: call the one that's in Missouri.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
33:20
SPEAKER_00: Well, just call one person because the more they hear from everybody,
33:26
SPEAKER_00: in particular, non physicians, it hits harder.
33:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, so if everybody could just do that for me,
33:34
SPEAKER_00: I don't ask a lot of everybody,
33:36
SPEAKER_00: but that's if you could do that one thing, I would be appreciative.
33:38
SPEAKER_01: So anyway.
33:41
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
33:42
SPEAKER_01: No, I, I, like.
33:44
SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Dr. Trimus.
33:46
SPEAKER_00: I will turn the floor back to the appellant for.
33:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm going to jump off for a second.
33:49
SPEAKER_01: I got to retest it.
33:50
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, actually, I think this is a good point, too.
33:52
SPEAKER_01: Let's end it for today.
33:54
SPEAKER_01: I'll promote your, your stuff, let you jump off.
33:57
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
33:59
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34:01
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