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Gordie Chiesa on the Utah Jazz and NBA, AJ Dybantsa the best draft prospect (?), Evaluating Ace Bailey's rookie year + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz. What's former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy. Come for the hoops talk. Stay
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  Speaker 1: for his list of the day, My list today.
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  Speaker 2: Here's o C with basketball sabon Gordy Chiaysa on the
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  Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: Jordan all Rich or Aldrich. Great to have you back.
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  Speaker 3: Getting a little worried we haven't had many players enter
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  Speaker 3: the portal. On the men's basketball side, how are you
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  Speaker 3: feeling about the staff's ability to put together a better
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  Speaker 3: roster this offseason. Well, it's gonna be better this year
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  Speaker 3: because they've got a they've got a running start on it.
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  Speaker 3: Wes Wilcox and I had a conversation with him on
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  Speaker 3: my podcast a couple of weeks ago. He that's that's
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  Speaker 3: what he's been working on for months and months now,
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  Speaker 3: and just having been around that program and where they
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  Speaker 3: were the last month or two. I know that they
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  Speaker 3: are all in on roster construction for this offseason. Jordan,
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  Speaker 3: So I think you'll be you and most Utah basketball
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  Speaker 3: fans should be should be pleasantly surprised. I think I
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  Speaker 3: think Alex and West and the staff are going to
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  Speaker 3: do a nice job putting a roster together. This one
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  Speaker 3: comes in from a Texter ten to thirteam says, Hey, Bill,
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  Speaker 3: we missed you. Glad to hear your voice again. How
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  Speaker 3: do you rank the top three players in the NBA Draft.
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  Speaker 3: I got to see two of them in person. I
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  Speaker 3: got to see aj De bonson person twice. I got
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  Speaker 3: to see Darren Peterson in person once. I've watched Cam
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  Speaker 3: Booser play a bunch on TV.
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  Speaker 1: Just again.
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  Speaker 3: This is Bill Riley, not draft evaluator. His opinion. I
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  Speaker 3: think aj Debonsa is the best player in college basketball
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  Speaker 3: or the best possible prospect. He played hard, he was skilled,
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  Speaker 3: did his best to carry a team that was banged
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  Speaker 3: up over the last month. And I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: draft needs. I don't know how this is now my prediction,
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  Speaker 3: but I rank it to Bonsa one, Boozer two, Peterson
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  Speaker 3: probably three. There's a lot of questions about Peterson that
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  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily have the answer for that. Maybe NBA
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  Speaker 3: teams are going to be able to get the answer
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  Speaker 3: for when they do physicals and do meetings and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. Darren Peterson is a talent. He was just
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a mercurial talent. He showed you flashes
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  Speaker 3: and glimpses. And I just know talking to friends of
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  Speaker 3: mine and family that are huge Kansas fans and work
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  Speaker 3: around the program, it was almost kind of a tease
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  Speaker 3: you kind of a year because they didn't know when
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  Speaker 3: he would be in and out of the lineup. But
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  Speaker 3: De Bonsa is so very good and Cam Boozer is
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  Speaker 3: so very good as well. Both those guys, I think
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  Speaker 3: we'll step in and help their teams from day one.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know it as well as our next guest.
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  Speaker 3: He is my friend of twenty four years, twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years now. I've been in Salt Lake City twenty five
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  Speaker 3: years now, and I met him a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 3: in and I couldn't come back on the Year today
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  Speaker 3: filling in for Sean without having him on the program.
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  Speaker 1: The Great Gordon Siasa love you dog.
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  Speaker 4: How are you Bill, I'm doing well. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 4: on the air. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: It's good to be back again. Let's tackle the question
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  Speaker 3: that was just asked to me on the text line, Gordy,
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  Speaker 3: we'll get into some other NBA and maybe Somemart's madness stuff.
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  Speaker 3: How do you a guy that's watched a lot of
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  Speaker 3: basketball and I don't know if you've done a deep dive,
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  Speaker 3: but you talk to a lot of people too, how
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  Speaker 3: would you rank the top three prospects for this upcoming draft?
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  Speaker 4: De Anser won by far because because of his ability
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  Speaker 4: to create his own shot no no matter who's guarding him.
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  Speaker 4: And also he's just general unbelievable talent where he raises
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  Speaker 4: up and he can look at that basket to make plays,
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  Speaker 4: and he can rebound his position, and he is athletic
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  Speaker 4: in bouncy, so he'd be number one. Number two is
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  Speaker 4: a cam boozer who's really highly intelligent mid block player,
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  Speaker 4: can make shots, he's got toughness, he makes his teammates better.
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  Speaker 4: He's he can rebound in traffic, and he knows how
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  Speaker 4: to play the game. He reminds me of a Domatas
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  Speaker 4: Sabonis with much more skills the way he plays. And three,
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  Speaker 4: you will be Darren Peterson. Your point is role taking,
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  Speaker 4: where he's a knockdown shooter. There's question marks about him
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  Speaker 4: as far as his ups and downs of not being there.
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  Speaker 4: The NBA people will do an unbelievable job of intel
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  Speaker 4: before they draft him, but he's a major talent. When
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  Speaker 4: you're picking one, two, or three, talent prevails. The fourth
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  Speaker 4: guy should be Caleb Wilson, the Runnings of four man
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  Speaker 4: from Carolina tar Heels who got hurt during the season.
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  Speaker 4: He's out again, major talent running the floor, can score,
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  Speaker 4: and he will be absolutely a great addition for any
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  Speaker 4: NBA team. And the last one I'll mentioned to you,
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  Speaker 4: the fifth pick should be Darius a Cup from Arkansas
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  Speaker 4: who's a point guard about six one six who can
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  Speaker 4: get in the lane almost like Alan Iverson, like toughness
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  Speaker 4: as far as playing, and so those are the five
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  Speaker 4: guys that should be it should be drafted high. And
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  Speaker 4: that show that Jazz is staring right at those guys also,
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  Speaker 4: and they get luck with a lot of regards.
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  Speaker 3: So my question for you, Gordy is and you talk
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  Speaker 3: to NBA guys all the time, you're still in that
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  Speaker 3: world on the periphery, how did they look at a
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  Speaker 3: guy like what's the conversation behind the scenes about Peterson
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  Speaker 3: And how do NBA teams view him you just mentioned
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of unknown questions they'll get to get
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  Speaker 3: they'll try to find.
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  Speaker 1: Out during this draft process. But why do they view
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  Speaker 1: him right now?
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  Speaker 4: They view him as that a major scoring talent, that
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  Speaker 4: he can knock down shots and he when he hit
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  Speaker 4: that ball, you feel good about it. He can score
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  Speaker 4: against good defense that's physical, and so now the question
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  Speaker 4: is his character and they're going to do it unbelievable.
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  Speaker 4: I use the example of member last year Bill with
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  Speaker 4: Ace Belly. Theo's reports that he was up and down
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  Speaker 4: with Rutgers and that he didn't want to come to
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  Speaker 4: Utah and that was absolutely categorically false. That everyone says
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  Speaker 4: that he's really a good young man and that he
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  Speaker 4: by the way he can play, and that Jez he's
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  Speaker 4: a foundation for the Jazz. So sometimes you've got to
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  Speaker 4: just go even deeper and deeper into the part about
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  Speaker 4: the kid's family, etc. Who's advising him, and all the things.
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  Speaker 4: Usually speaking, you're extra coaching staff, the rival coaches. You'll
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  Speaker 4: extra the training staff, your act, the rival training staffs,
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  Speaker 4: and anybody around that might know that person to give
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  Speaker 4: his information about intel and put it all together and
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  Speaker 4: then go by your instincts if you think you can
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  Speaker 4: coach him.
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  Speaker 3: So my question for you, since you and I we
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  Speaker 3: don't talk on the air together anymore, we talk and
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  Speaker 3: text off the air. He's seen sixty four games of
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  Speaker 3: Ace Bailey fifty three as a starter. He's averaging about
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  Speaker 3: twenty seven minutes of nights. It's not quite the entire season,
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  Speaker 3: but we're we're three quarters of the way through it now, Gordy,
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  Speaker 3: almost eighty percent of the way through it. Give me
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  Speaker 3: the Gordy chiasa NBA insider longtime coaches evaluation of Ace
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  Speaker 3: Bailey Nineteen year old Ace Bailey's first year in the NBA.
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  Speaker 4: Success. Remember he turns twenty on August thirteenth. To add
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  Speaker 4: to that, he's a nine to year old guy that
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  Speaker 4: played in the NBA right now, and he is playing
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  Speaker 4: absolutely well again talent wise, you feel good about it.
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  Speaker 4: When he has that ball and he starts penetrating, he
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  Speaker 4: races up into the mid range jump shot. He can
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  Speaker 4: shoot off top of the defense. So the Jets at
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  Speaker 4: number five. Last year they hit the jackpot of getting him.
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  Speaker 4: He's a foundational piece. He's shooting right now thirty five
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  Speaker 4: point nine from threes, and he'll get bigger and stronger
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  Speaker 4: as far as doing it. And he knows how to
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  Speaker 4: play with the ball and without the ball. So he
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  Speaker 4: gives the ball give and go old school give and
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  Speaker 4: go cut. He tries to space out Respace out as
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  Speaker 4: far as the floor. Now, defensively he's getting slightly better.
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  Speaker 4: He still can't guard screening action, which most guys don't. Usually,
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  Speaker 4: speaking Bill, most young players play offense too fast and
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  Speaker 4: defense too slow. With Ace, he plays offense moderate pace,
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  Speaker 4: which is really good, but his defense is still slow.
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  Speaker 4: Meaning what reacting positionally understanding of when to give help
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  Speaker 4: when not give help guard your position. So I say
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  Speaker 4: this all the time is that don't judge like Ace
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  Speaker 4: billy type people against other guys in the NBA. Try
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  Speaker 4: to look at them as far as their age group.
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  Speaker 4: So I tell us a lot of comes to the
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  Speaker 4: NBA colleagues is that in jazz basketball, Ace has to
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  Speaker 4: outplay Arman Thompson of the Houston Rockets. That's the same
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  Speaker 4: position sort of the same age group between twenty and
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  Speaker 4: twenty four and sort of is philosophically and eight outplay
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  Speaker 4: someone like him three or four times. In the next generation,
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  Speaker 4: we're gonna find out it's enough talent to do it,
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  Speaker 4: will he do it? And that's that's that's that's coaching,
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  Speaker 4: and that's his own personal development, both on and off
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  Speaker 4: the court. So really, I love this game.
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  Speaker 3: We're talking to Gordychiasa here on the Shad O'Connell Show today,
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  Speaker 3: Bill Riley filling in for Sean. We're live at Wassatch Front,
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  Speaker 3: Kia today. There's a nasty little seven letter word that
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  Speaker 3: nobody in NBA circles likes to hear say publicly, but
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  Speaker 3: we all know that it happens.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy. It's tanking.
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  Speaker 3: The NBA is trying to fix its tanking problem. Nobody
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  Speaker 3: likes that seven letter word. Adam Silver doesn't like that
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  Speaker 3: seven letter word, but we know that it happens. The
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  Speaker 3: NBA presented three anti tanking proposals. What did you make
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  Speaker 3: of what you solve those proposals? Are any of them
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  Speaker 3: possible or good solutions to you?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: The first one is yeah, I read it to you right,
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  Speaker 4: just quickly, and I'll explained to you even more quicker.
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  Speaker 4: They're going to say there'll be next year possibly now
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  Speaker 4: will be voted by the border governors of the next
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  Speaker 4: meeting this May, and the boarder governors for the listeners
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  Speaker 4: is the NBA owners. There'll be eighteen teams in a
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  Speaker 4: draft lottery. They're receded seven through fifteen in each conference,
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  Speaker 4: and they're going to flatten the odds with the bottom
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  Speaker 4: ten teams as far as their record, will all have
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  Speaker 4: a eight percent chance of receiving the first pick of
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  Speaker 4: the draft. The remaining teams will have a twenty percent
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  Speaker 4: chance of getting the first pick of the draft, and
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  Speaker 4: that it will be it will be the order so
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  Speaker 4: after the first ten, then will be if the order
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  Speaker 4: of being drafted will be eleven through eighteen, and every
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  Speaker 4: team will be in the lottery. So there'll there'll be
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  Speaker 4: eighteen picks quote in the lottery. So which means that
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  Speaker 4: all the teams that don't play in the playing tournament
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  Speaker 4: and the teams in the playing tournament will be in
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  Speaker 4: the lottery. Eighteen teams and the six teams from the
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  Speaker 4: Eastern Conference and six from the West Confidence that made
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  Speaker 4: the playoffs will not be in the lottery. That's the
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  Speaker 4: most solution of it. They're probably going to tweak part
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  Speaker 4: of it also, but they've got to stop this tanking built.
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  Speaker 4: I understand, like you know, even the least forty years
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  Speaker 4: or so, there's teams that are losing at the end
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  Speaker 4: of the season. But this started literally from for some
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  Speaker 4: teams from Bill after their first months that they didn't
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  Speaker 4: want to win. I mean, I have a real problem
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  Speaker 4: with that just from a fan standpoint, And so the
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  Speaker 4: NBA is addressing it, and you know why, Bill also
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  Speaker 4: the taking partner, is saying, wait a second, we didn't
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  Speaker 4: pay for all the billions of dollars some for one
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  Speaker 4: p thirty teams not trying to win.
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  Speaker 1: It's Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: It's made the game itself an unwatchable product, and to
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  Speaker 3: your point, it became an unwatchable product for certain fan
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  Speaker 3: bases in November and December. That's that's a horrible business model,
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  Speaker 3: especially when you consider what ticket prices cost to go
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  Speaker 3: see one of those games.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much, absolutely, And that is the reason why
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  Speaker 4: that Adam Silber, who is a very smart person, you
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  Speaker 4: like to think that every team is going to try
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  Speaker 4: to get the best product. Now, I get it. Some
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  Speaker 4: teams look at it short term and the long term.
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  Speaker 4: I understand that. But in the meantime, though, you have
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  Speaker 4: to try to be somewhat competitive during the game. You know,
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  Speaker 4: again the catchword is during the game. And they're going
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  Speaker 4: to address it right now because they're serious about it.
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  Speaker 4: And whenever the mbady gets serious about Remember it's called
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  Speaker 4: the National Basketball Association, I call it the National Business Association.
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  Speaker 4: This is a business and what affects the business model.
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  Speaker 4: It's very longing to all the thirty owners and rightfully
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  Speaker 4: so they should be the next part of that bill
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  Speaker 4: will be the expansion as far as the NBA is
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  Speaker 4: going to expand in the twenty eight twenty ninth season,
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  Speaker 4: and so they're saying very basically that they're exploring it
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  Speaker 4: right now, so to be Seattle coming in and also
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  Speaker 4: Las Vegas, and that each owner would for the new
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  Speaker 4: ownership groups I'm assumilarly with probably hedge fund people and
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  Speaker 4: venture venture capitalists as far as buying into a team
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  Speaker 4: is that will cost them roughly between seven billion to
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  Speaker 4: nine billion dollars to be invited to the party. Let's
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  Speaker 4: put it in context and jazz basketball in nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 4: four when the Jazz started in New Orleans. The entry
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  Speaker 4: fee was thirty two point five entry was skimming was
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  Speaker 4: six point five million, six point five million, and nineteen
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  Speaker 4: seventy four for the Jazz and New Orleans to become
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  Speaker 4: part of the party.
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  Speaker 3: It's amazing where those rights fees and things have gone.
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  Speaker 3: Do you like both Vegas and see if they do expand?
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  Speaker 3: I know you like Seattle. Everybody loves Seattle, Gordy. They
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  Speaker 3: should have never you coached there the last year with
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  Speaker 3: the Sonics and Bob Hill. That's a slam dunk. Should
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  Speaker 3: have never happened. Do you like Vegas as another one too?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much absolutely Vegas. Vegas. I call it the
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  Speaker 4: thirty first NBA city ready because all the rocouts is
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  Speaker 4: there by the individual players, some of league is there,
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  Speaker 4: the play in excumy, the in season tournament is there,
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  Speaker 4: and just generally speaking that Vegas is a destination for
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  Speaker 4: so many NBA fans. So it's ready to thirty first city.
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  Speaker 4: Let's make it the thirty first franchise.
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  Speaker 3: Talking to Gordy chas here on the Shad O'Connell show today,
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  Speaker 3: Bill Riley filling in with my good friend Gordon chas
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  Speaker 3: All right, we got to talk a little bit of
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  Speaker 3: March madness before we get get out of here.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy.
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  Speaker 3: I open up ESPN dot com this morning, and I
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  Speaker 3: think Dan Wetzel is a fantastic writer. And I see
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  Speaker 3: on the front page of ESPN dot com Wetzel's column today,
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  Speaker 3: despite scandals, Rick Patino might be the best men's college
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  Speaker 3: hoops coach ever. Well, I need to go to the
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  Speaker 3: source here, because you were on Rick Patino's staff at
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  Speaker 3: the beginning. You know Rick, well, you know all about
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  Speaker 3: him as a coach and as a person and all
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  Speaker 3: of that stuff. What do you make of that headline
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  Speaker 3: that Dan Wetzel wrote this morning that he might be
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  Speaker 3: the best college coach ever?
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's going to also adswer that because there's so
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  Speaker 4: many different schools and also decades, and that makes it
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  Speaker 4: so interesting the ability for Rick to adjust with the times,
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  Speaker 4: and he has, so he's in the top. He's in
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  Speaker 4: the top for five of all time, and he's done
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  Speaker 4: it for much longer with different groups of people. And
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  Speaker 4: I've had a bigger programs and also of smaller programs.
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  Speaker 4: So the answer is at a very valid point. I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't say the best of all time, because that's then
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  Speaker 4: when I'm doing justice that Johnny Wooden or to a
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  Speaker 4: coach k or to Bobby Knight, et cetera. Gean Smith,
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  Speaker 4: I gotcha, So that that's that's a that's an arbitrary word.
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  Speaker 4: But he's absolutely in the conversation, which is great. What
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  Speaker 4: makes Rick so interesting and this game to me, build
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  Speaker 4: this game tonight in Washington, d C. It's going to
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  Speaker 4: be outrageous between the Johnnys versus the Duke Blue Devils,
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  Speaker 4: and the question right now will be can Duke with
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  Speaker 4: a really tremendous all around talent. It's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a back alley fight and so we'll do finest players
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  Speaker 4: rise to the challenge. They will go against Saint John's
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  Speaker 4: who will who? Who are going to start fighting fighting
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  Speaker 4: Klorin with their press and trap defense to get them
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  Speaker 4: off stride. And that's going to be a great game.
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  Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to it. And both teams are really
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: well schooled. And the question is, as always, what team
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: Bill can finish through contact when they start fouling you. Yes, right,
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: so you drive to the basket, they bump you. You've
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: got to be able to finish at the rim and
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: make shots So Cam Boozer is going to be challenged
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: tonight by zubi at For. It's going to be interesting
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: bobbishing both those guys.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: So will you what I love about March Madness. Scoring
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: meant so many things I love about March Madness. But
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: you see different coaching styles and different playing styles that
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: maybe you don't see during the year. Look at a
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: guy at Iowa, like Ben McCully in his first year there,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: five years ago, he was winning national championships at Division
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: two Northwest Missouri and Marysville, Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: Five years later, he's got Iowa.
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  Speaker 3: Into the Elite eight with not I mean, he's got
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: one star player, but he's doing it with a different
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: style and getting it done. I love seeing different coaches
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: match up with different coaches and styles.
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  Speaker 1: Well they used to. They like to say styles make fights, right.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, very much, yes. And so with the Iowa Hawk guys,
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: they're playing with confidence and they moved that ball around perimeter,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: and they're gritty on defense. And so is Purdue and
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: so is Arizona. These teams are really well schooled. And
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: that's the power of I know a matter ejectives, but
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: the power of coaching is absolutely there. It's Like you know,
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I always said about the NBA is the myth. People say, well,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: in the NBA is very little coaching. Really say rot
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: really look at the better teams in the NBA. They're
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: coaching is superior. And you get college basketball, you get
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: to the sweet sixteen, you know what you're doing. Often
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: when you do lose, it's because you don't shoot straight
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: during that game where your shooters couldn't make couldn't make
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: open shots versus the constant pressure and harassment of the
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: defensive team against you. And that's where you have to
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: have the ability to score, to score through contact, whether
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: it's on perimeter or whether it's insight. But before we
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: get Bill, I have a list today, especially in your honor.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, give me the list, Gord.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Here we go college coaches who have won multiple men's
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: basketball championships. So right on point about Dan West. So
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: you mentioned four about this is a two championships. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: had to win at least two championships NCAA basketball. It's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: very short lists and it starts back in the nineteen forties.
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: Hank Iva Oklahoma State two championships, Paul Wilford University of
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: San Francisco two championships led by Bill Russell and Casey
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: Jones at junkdown Cincinnati Bear Cuts back in the nineteen sixties.
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  Speaker 4: Billy Donovan, University of Florida.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: That's your guy, that's your guy, Gordy.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Sixth absolutely, six and seven. And maybe Bill maybe the
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: new coach of North Countina, Ta Hills. Maybe it's absolutely
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: very possible. Dean Smith, Carolina nineteen eighty three, nineteen ninety two,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Jay Wright going over, tremendous coach twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: Rick Bettino, Kentucky nineteen ninety six, in Louisville twoenty and thirteen,
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna save me right now. But Gordy in Louisville,
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: he got vacated the title. That's your next word, right Bill.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: No, No, I won't say that, because those games did happen.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, Great Bill Seth Ku eight and twenty twenty two.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Dan Hurley all right, Yu konn twenty three and twenty
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: four with three championships. Williams, Bobby Knight and Jim Calhoun
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: with four championships. Adolf up Kentucky Wildcats first time nineteen
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: forty eight, less time nineteen fifty eight with five championships,
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: which is the second all time coach K Duke nineteen
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: ninety one, nineteen ninety two, two thousand and one, twenty ten,
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: pardon me, and two thousand and fifteen. So Duke has
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: not winning championship in over ten years. Now this year
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: they don't win it. This year will eleven years and
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: the number one coacha winning the most ever NCAA championships
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: from UCLA Johnny Wooden. First year was nineteen sixty four
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: and the last year was nineteen seventy five. So that's
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: my list today. How about NBA basketball. By the way,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: the most NBA championships by a head coach is Phil
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: Jackson with eleven, six with the Bulls and five with
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: the Lakers. Thus, Bill Riley, welcome back. This is my
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: list of today.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: Gordy Chieza, I love your dog. However, I've got to
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: take a break here. I'll talk to you soon. Let's
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: get lunch.
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: Thanks do, peace out.