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Fright Night 2 - Xenomania Episode Six · Xenomania

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Ryan : the first scene I remember is Jerry Dandridge crashing through the
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window, catching it on AMC Fright Fest in the afternoon it hooked me.
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seeing it later, in high school studying film, it's such a great vampire film.
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Kearns: Yeah, it's phenomenal.
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That scene, by the way, it reminds me of like jaws 3D.
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you see the scene of the shark just, just gravitating toward the camera a
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child, you didn't get how awful it was.
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that very dangerous one holds up way better.
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CGI.
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Jon: the documentary about it, and one of the things I was hoping to
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hear was that were elements like we're gonna make this 3D, and it's just not.
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It's just the way that scene was filmed.
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Kearns: Oh, really?
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Jon: Nothing about a 3D
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Kearns: makes sense because it does look like it could have been, it could
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have been framed to be a 3D thing.
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And 3D was a thing in 1987.
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Michael Jackson, Moonwalker was 3D.
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Ryan : feel like everything was 3D during that time, like Friday the
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13th even went 3D during the 80s.
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Jon: WPIX back in the day used to, do a whole week of horror, and at one point
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they were popping 3D movies on there, too.
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3D was everywhere.
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Kearns: You just said the hallowed four letters WPIX eight to 10 o'clock movies.
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every week was themed and October was hallowed ground ninth
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gate would be on or something.
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And I'd be Begging the powers that be to keep my mom from walking
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in and seeing what I'm watching.
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Jon: I think that two hours exposed me to more horror than anything else.
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Kearns: Oh, easily.
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And then like Ryan said, AMC as I got older, AMC was what I gravitated toward
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more during Halloween time, because they would show, almost feel like you
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were on grandpa's knee or something.
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You would be seeing movies that you'd never knew existed that were 15 years
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old, you would never have been exposed to if they didn't get popped onto AMC.
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Ryan : I still remember the schedule especially during
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Halloween because of 31 days, right?
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Fest awesome wake up at 6 am and The bus had come at like eight o'clock.
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I'd watch puppet master, Halloween four, Halloween five.
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my mom's like, what are you watching?
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Nothing.
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Don't worry about it.
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And it's just good memories and Fright Night is one of those,
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They aired it because it was something that fans wanted to see.
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And that's when I'll be honest, AMC was great.
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Cause now it's like down to 15 days and it's just shitty movies.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Ryan : not good.
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Kearns: they messed with it.
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Well they integrated back, there was no slasher stuff and things
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like that in there back then.
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It was all demons and they were the, it was the classic stuff.
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Then they integrated sort of modern movies, I guess,
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into it a little bit more.
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I think they should have just kept running the same loop.
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If they ran the same loop that we were watching in 94, 95, 96, I guarantee you,
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the viewership would go through the roof.
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Ryan : I would wake up at five in the morning if they
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showed the sequel to the omen.
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that's how I got introduced to that.
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right before going to the bus, the guy falls through the lake.
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Great.
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Kearns: solid.
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Jon: Fright Fest was doomed by the rise of streaming services, I imagine it
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also leads to something like Shudder, because Shudder is an AMC property,
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Kearns: I did not know that.
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Ryan : I didn't know that either.
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Kearns: Very cool.
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Very cool.
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when I was thinking about it, I flop around trying to find
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these movies to, watch, rewatch and prepare for the episodes.
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John's the only one out of the three of us with a Shudder subscription,
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Ryan : Yes, he is.
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Kearns: just like, come on, Amazon Prime.
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Nope.
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Come on, Netflix.
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Nope.
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Let's go Max.
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Nope.
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And I should really, cancel these.
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watch enough on them.
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Jon: want to give free plugs, but Shudder is the best bang for the
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buck too, because it's not expensive.
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Kearns: you can give a free plug to this guy.
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Ryan : Yeah.
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Kearns: Yeah, you can give a free plug to a golden thing.
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Ryan : what?
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Five 99 a month.
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Jon: it's nothing hey,
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Kearns: No
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Jon: there's the option to get the whole year at a discounted price.
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it's a legit service.
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Kearns: Do you have to watch commercials?
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Nah,
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Ryan : No.
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Kearns: give them my money just because they're not, grinding at the
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lint in my pockets like everybody else Oh, man, that's amazing.
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every other thing I have, it's like 11.
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99 but you have to watch 15 commercials one 20 minute episode, but anyway,
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enough complaining Fright Night 1987 versus Fright Night 2011.
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how do you compare anybody?
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To vampire Humperdinck for those who don't know it's Jerry
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Dandridge from the Princess Bride,
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Ryan : In my multi verse, Fright Night is a sequel to, The Princess Bride.
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Prince Humperdinck became Jerry Dandridge.
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Kearns: Nice.
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So how do we do it?
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follow up?
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He does such a good job in the original Fright Night.
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Jon: Silence.
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Kearns: range to go from Prince Humperdinck and his other stuff.
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he is in other horror movies.
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He's in the Corpse Bride, right?
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He voiced in the Corpse Bride.
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So horror is not a genre.
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He's, completely alienated from, aside from Fright Night.
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I thought he did a great job in the original.
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Jon: Chris Sarandon is the perfect Jerry.
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he's got enough slick, cool, sexiness to be believable without being over the top.
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he's the guy next door, not sexy Hollywood
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Door.
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A little digging.
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Kearns: yeah, he's a little night digger.
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He's putting in the nightshades.
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he's very believable and I think this is why he crushes that role.
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He's very believable as the dude whose dimples will distract your parents
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enough to believe him over you.
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Jon: Yes.
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Ryan : it's definitely shown in the scene when he's talking to
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Charlie's mom, you can see he's just cool calculating, He's sexy, man.
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He's got that romanticism he pulls it off so well.
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And then when he becomes that monster.
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Cause, I'm thinking of the scene when him and Charlie, had that little fight scene.
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He stabs him with the pencil.
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You see the evil come out, and Chris Sarandon does it so well.
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funny enough, he didn't even want to do it.
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he read the script, and he was like, Alright, let me meet the
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director, Tom Holland, this was his first film to direct, he
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actually wrote Psycho 2 beforehand,
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so he was like, let me meet him, and Tom Holland went shot by shot
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with him, in a LA cafe, and Chris Sarandon was like, I'm sold.
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then they worked together again, he was the detective in Child's Play, which
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Tom Holland wrote and direct also.
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Kearns: And that was my first experience seeing him, so he'll always be
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seared in my memory from that movie.
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That movie scarred me.
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We're not going to get into it this episode.
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We're going to wait until we roll around to that because I got stories that movie
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messed me up, that is how I remember him.
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And I was like, he's the good guy.
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then he's the bad guy for the rest of his career.
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Ryan : he was a good guy in Bordello of Blood.
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Jon: Oh, gosh.
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Kearns: Was anybody a good guy, in Bordello of Blood?
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honestly, though, that's a good reference, Bordello of Blood's been a minute.
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Jon: It's the, third best Tales from the Crypt movie.
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Kearns: What,
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Ryan : one star.
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Kearns: one?
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Ryan : Demon Knight,
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Jon: for
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Kearns: Demon Knight's good.
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Jon: Everything about Demon Knight.
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Soundtrack, atmosphere, that movie is solid.
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the original Tales from the Crypt movie, which I don't think is terribly
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related to the series, is better.
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Ryan : the 70s one?
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Jon: Yeah, that 70s one
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Ryan : That one was based on the EC comics.
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Which is cool, because it led to Stephen King and George A. Romero doing Creepshow.
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Kearns: we need more adaptations of graphic novels and things like that.
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I'm not talking about just gaming and Sandman and need to take more risks.
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Like those types of adaptations are gold.
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Ryan : Yeah, they are.
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I just read, Batman, Arkham Asylum, Sirius placed on a Sirius
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Earth, Not even the art, but how the story is written and stuff.
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It's got like that Sandman vibe, that gaming vibe.
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And it just, it's like, it's so deep there's more to it than meets the eye.
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Kearns: Nice more than meets the eye.
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Where have I heard that before?
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Ron so what are the, what are the redeeming qualities of the 2011 version
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of Fright Night that make it viable to put in the ring with the 1987 version?
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Jon: It's hard to compete I love Colin Farrell.
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Colin Farrell is too steamy to be Jerry.
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he's too sexy.
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Very much for having me.
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Bye
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Kearns: That's fair.
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They should have penguin him up a bit for the movie.
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thought ahead on that one.
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Jon: they went the opposite way.
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Sexied him up more, like his eyebrows are super thick and
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perfect and he's, well muscled and everything about him is just way
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Kearns: They're yelling at the assistants like somebody get
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more oil for Colin's eyebrows
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Ryan : I thought he was just vicious.
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through the characterization of them, I didn't like it.
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so opposite of what Chris Sarandon did because Chris Sarandon doing like the sexy
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part and the vicious part and blending it so well together, Colin Farrell,
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you can just see that viciousness.
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And there was like no difference.
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Kearns: Ryan that's where you believe he's a nice guy Or you buy into what everybody
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else is seeing and why He's able to hide in plain sight so well the Colin Farrell
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version doesn't pull that off remotely.
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Ryan : Even when he's gardening, I'm just like, Oh, this is cute.
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you want to tear their throats out.
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It's right in front of your face.
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even if you compare the scenes to evil Ed, when Chris Sarandon, Jerry
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Dandridge turns evil Ed into, the vampire, you see the connection,
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you feel the emotion in the scene.
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And then with Colin Farrell and, Christopher Mintz Blass.
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It's just, there's no emotion, no connection, it's just
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like, I'm just gonna turn you.
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And it's just like, ah,
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Jon: rushed it.
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In the original,
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Kearns: The Vimp?
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Jon: to Evil Ed before he gets turned, he's got the lines, you're
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so cool, Brewster, You have that.
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emotional connection to Evil Ed in the original.
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In the second one, he's, done.
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almost instantly.
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You don't connect to him ever.
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Kearns: So I'm hearing there's an art form to making your comic foil
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ghoul, your Redfield, your evil ed, whomever from Buffy played by a
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Ryan : that's a good one.
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Kearns: Yeah, he's like the number two guy.
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you have to do almost the same thing you have to do with the lead vampire.
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Ryan : very much.
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Kearns: I don't think a lot of people would talk about it like this, where
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you're talking about Jerry's character as something you need to flush out or
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evil ed, the way you described it, John, it's a little bit more art to it than
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just being able to smash it forward.
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And I think that's where these remakes fail they're losing the thread.
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Jon: And,
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maybe it's the age thing, maybe it's they have forgotten make
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this kind of movie right, but it's glossier, you lose the grit.
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if you read about the remake of Fright Night, it still has a comedy tag,
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but that's not really PredAtVersion.
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There's a couple of Peter Vincent scenes that are amusing, but most
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of the comedy element is wiped out
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Kearns: Right, and you need that as well, that's, I mean, anything in the 80s
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that hits like these genre horror movies need that comedy edge, in my opinion,
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They can't just be like cabin fever.
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Where it's a, it's a scary thing and there's lots of boobs everywhere.
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they're just, cherry picking two ingredients out of a
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whole recipe that they need.
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no, I'm definitely with you.
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And I guess that I'm just going to circle back a little bit with the idea that
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the vampire trope in general you have to humanize the monster in some way, or have
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an evil Ed, you can't just, Leave that
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Ryan : Okay.
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Kearns: the monster.
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with Jerry, you don't need that.
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the story is about the kid.
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Being in the face of evil and nobody believing him.
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That's where the real scare comes from the idea that you see the
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looming threat and everybody's just
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Ryan : Yes.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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Hmm.
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Yes.
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Kearns: in interview with a vampire is a whole other aspect of it.
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but in let the right one in the, vampires.
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Like reluctant to kill in a way bit.
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And the kid wants to kill other people.
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That's an interesting one.
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Sorry, I'm going on a really weird tangent.
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Let's get back to Friday night.
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Jon: And you sort of,
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also miss with the remake how Chris Sarandon's Jerry Dandridge, the way
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he with Charlie the beginning, where with Colin Farrell's version, it's
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just more in your face, like, he's just openly taunting him, where, know,
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Sarandon's Jerry is subtle, almost, and he also has Billy Cole to do it.
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And one of the funny things that comes from the documentary is Jonathan
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Starks, who plays Billy Cole, says, Basically, every scene, I'm going out
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of my way Charlie as much as possible.
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And it
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Ryan : It shows well as the character progresses, because you
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see him as that assistant, and it's like, this kid's just crazy.
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He's like, he doesn't know what's going on they even get caught in the act.
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I'm shocked the mom doesn't see it, while they're by the car.
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he throws the body, the prostitute, in the trunk.
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And she's like, Charlie!
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Charlie!
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what are you guys doing over there?
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Charlie!
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Kearns: What's part of the oblivious aspect of it that they yuck up
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a lot with the parents like what the kid sees they're useless
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Jon: in the original, Mom is comedically oblivious in the
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remake, Toni Collette is fine.
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She's a great actress.
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She's pretty good in the role, too.
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it's a different spirit she starts as disbelieving, and never really
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figures out what's going on, they get in a car crash and knock her out.
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So she's written out that way.
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Ryan : she did kick ass in that movie.
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Like that van scene was a big highlight for me And then they
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ruined it by killing Chris Sarandon, even though he asked for it.
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It was just like, God damn it.
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Kearns: I got to ask the chicken and the egg for this one.
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What are the other movies that like we get the, I see this from my window I
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was thinking of a couple I was trying to think of what was the first movie
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that did the whole, my neighbor's dragging a body out the back door thing.
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guys, you think rear window Hitchcock
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Jon: comes up they say, before Rear Window there was a movie called The Window,
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: So I think that's really where that comes from.
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before movies, spying on your neighbor is useful
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Kearns: I think it kind of pulls from the tenement housing days when you're
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jammed against each other, pouring your poop outside in a pot that kind of thing.
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And you're forced to look outside at the weird and horrific things that your
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Cause it's more city like, right?
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And then with this, you plop that
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Ryan : Damn Jerry Dandridge.
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Kearns: And your damn handsome face.
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You son of a bitch.
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Ryan : Prince Humperdink.
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Kearns: Humper dunk.
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Humper hunk.
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Jon: Super hug.
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Ryan : Hey, I mean that nightclub scene.
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That dance scene.
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was cool cause like you see that transformation of Amanda Burse's
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character Amy goes through from teenager to adult to lost love.
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That was pretty cool, but the dance scene and music.
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it's so 80s, but it works.
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Kearns: that's the best part though.
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almost like you have to suspend your disbelief because it's so 80s.
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The 80s seems fake.
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I don't think the kids today can understand the level
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of cartoonish the 80s were.
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Ryan : Scarface is a serious movie, but there's cartoon elements in it.
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Kearns: It feels like a comic book when you're reading it that just
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the lapels alone in that movie.
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It's 90 percent lapel
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Jon: the neons and all the colors, yeah, the 80s are a cartoon.
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Kearns: Yeah, it feels that way you get movies you go back to fright night, a
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great movie you're watching it and then they pull in this 80s thing and it pulls
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you out of it for a second You're just like oh my god, the 80s were crazy.
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Is that crisscross in the background?
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What is happening?
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Ryan : that's what makes the 80s movies and even the early 90s horror
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and films great is that they put a little light heartedness in it.
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So it's like, it gives off the edge, you feel all right, this is cool I feel good.
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And then.
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Bam, everyone's dead.
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And you're like, no, this is horrible.
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then it's more lightheartedness.
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it's a good pattern.
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like a movie where it's like, oh shit, the entire time is good, but too much of it.
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like perfect for Fright Night, like 1980, one.
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The 2011 one, I love David Tennant.
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That was perfect for him.
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Those are the lighthearted moments
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Jon: the
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Ryan : you know,
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Jon: one,
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Ryan : and then
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Jon: in the 85 one, the Peter Vincent character is funny in other ways.
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Number one, he's a hammer horror film character.
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that sort of British vampire killer.
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Tom Holland says he based that character on Peter Cushing and Vincent Price.
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And he wanted Vincent Price to play the character, but already
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in failing health by that point.
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But you get Roddy McDowell,
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as much as I love Vincent Price, Roddy McDowell is perfect for that role.
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Ryan : It's how he acts and reacts.
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he was doing a good Peter Cushion impression.
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I love Peter Cushion, especially from the Hammer films.
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he gave me that vibe from horror of Dracula.
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the pocket mirror and his reactions, and it flows nicely, especially when
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he's like, Fighting evil ed and stuff.
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The brandishing of the cross on the forehead.
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It's just iconic
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Jon: And plays bumbling vampire killers so well.
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I'll tell you how many times I've seen the original Fright Night.
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dozens.
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they talked about this in the documentary, and I never noticed in
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the beginning, they have the movie within the movie with Peter Vincent.
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he's going to stake the vampire.
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The stake is backwards.
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The dull end is the end he's going to hammer in.
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they did that on purpose to add that cheese element to a movie within a movie.
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Like, that attention to that kind
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Ryan : That's awesome.
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Kearns: that's kind of cool.
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Jon: Yeah,
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Ryan : That would happen in a Hammer film,
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Kearns: to think of, major differences in the original and the new one, the remake
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besides, the hunkierness of the vampire.
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What else is starkly different?
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you mentioned the character is more evil, but I'm trying to think of
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actual plot points they changed.
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Ryan : going back to Peter Vincent, he's a TV show host in the original,
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and a magician in the remake.
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two different elements
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Kearns: one.
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Ryan : it's easier to get access to them.
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In the original, he just meets him out the studio.
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Hey, oh, you're a fan.
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And this one Charlie has to be a reporter.
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He's got the fake newspaper thing and stuff, and he starts investigating it,
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which it's a nice little plot point too, and it, because it leads to, in the
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remake, Peter Vincent, you learned his parents were killed by Jerry Dandridge.
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it's a nice circle
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Jon: but Peter Vincent from Peter Cushing to Criss Angel.
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Kearns: I just want to see Criss Angel get killed by a
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vampire Why'd you do this to me?
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Jon: In the original, you know Peter Vincent is a fake.
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: it's revealed that he's a fake.
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an actor playing a role.
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With the remake Peter Vincent.
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The first time you see him, he's got long hair piercings tattoos And
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you're like, oh, that's a cool dude.
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And then, you know, he gets in the room alone with Charlie the hair comes off
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piercings come out completely fake.
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Kearns: I do love the idea of Charlie showing up and this is
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like an eighties thing to show up at the back door of the studio.
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And he's like emptying out his ashtray filled with cigarettes.
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He's like, Oh, you're a fan.
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Ryan : Yeah.
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Kearns: security for being near a celebrity.
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they take the glamour away from the low level celebrity back then the Magician
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versus Joe Bob Briggs, if you don't know what that is, I'm better than you.
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not you two, I'm talking about the listeners.
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I already know you
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Ryan : Yeah.
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Kearns: know Joe Bob
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Jon: I'll tell Shudder more.
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another reason is you get Joe Bob Briggs.
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Kearns: You mentioned that once, and I should have just bit the bullet back
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then, but I think it'd be cool to ask Joe Bob Briggs for help with anything too.
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Like a bully or a werewolf and see what he does.
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He'd tell you to go fuck yourself.
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Magician versus television host and there was another juicy tidbit, but one of you
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is probably going to reveal it later.
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So I'll leave that alone about that character.
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And the fright night show I'm looking for a glimmer in your eyes.
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Ryan knows what I'm talking about.
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So I'll leave that alone.
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other notable changes.
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Ryan : The setting.
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You go from Corvallis Iowa to Las Vegas suburbs.
19:37
It kind of like dampers it in its own way, because like, at least Iowa, it's
19:42
quiet, nothing really going on, it's not expected, then you go to Las Vegas,
19:46
middle of a desert, but you hear Las Vegas, you think lights, you think of
19:50
glamour and stuff, and they do flip it, because they make it darker against
19:54
that glamour, quote unquote, but the quiet suburb is more fitting for a
19:58
vampire film, because you don't know what the hell's going to happen, while
20:01
Las Vegas is like, anything can happen.
20:03
Kearns: Yeah, least believable thing in the whole remake is an
20:06
Irish guy gardening in Vegas.
20:08
Not a chance he's alive.
20:10
You know he's a vampire right away.
20:11
Jon: There is an element of that setting in the new one that is effective for
20:16
me when they show long shots of the community surrounded by nothingness.
20:22
it does give a little bit more of an ided feel than the straight
20:26
suburban of the original.
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Kearns: That's true.
20:29
you have to make that leap for the suburban feel to feel
20:32
isolated because he's isolated, even though surrounded by people.
20:35
And that's what makes it scary.
20:37
I'm a huge psychological horror guy.
20:39
that stuff messes me up when you're like you're drowning, but surrounded
20:43
by people it's another example of the new movie, putting it in your face.
20:47
Whereas the original made you make that connection yourself.
20:50
Ryan : Yeah, that was also another change in the remake, he's trying
20:53
to create an army of vampires.
20:54
But in the original, he's just killing anyone who he wants to kill.
20:58
And, he turns Ed, he turns Amy, but he's not trying to build an army.
21:01
He's just, I lonely,
21:03
The other one wants a cannibalistic army, because they'll eat one another,
21:06
according to the lore, in the movie.
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Kearns: Which is interesting.
21:08
gives you an idea, like the narcissism behind being a vampire.
21:11
you create friends, underlings, but they're disposable you move on to
21:15
your next adventure they're solo.
21:17
isolated.
21:18
There's no really digging out of that.
21:19
That's why they play with their food.
21:21
You get bored.
21:21
Ryan : It's true.
21:22
they were coming out the walls, the ground dirt flying off.
21:25
It's like he's controlling them.
21:27
That scene was in bad.
21:28
That was a pretty cool scene thinking about it as the sunlight's pouring in
21:31
the original ending where the sunlight's coming in as they're breaking the glass.
21:35
It's still iconic.
21:38
Kearns: one of the things where the weakness is so glaring.
21:41
get him out into the light, and he'll die.
21:43
But he's also superhuman, multi century old way smarter than you.
21:49
and you're also a kid.
21:50
the best part, is that you're just a stupid kid.
21:53
Ryan : Okay.
21:59
Kearns: of reasons the movie works, but you know Like, how
22:01
do you make it so the kid wins?
22:03
And that's how they did it.
22:04
Ryan : they just make it easy for the kid to win because they
22:07
make a simple escape route.
22:08
That's what Tom Holland does.
22:09
He makes it very simple if you were in that situation and you're a kid,
22:13
you can do that plus Charlie, watches Fright Night the show Peter Vincent
22:17
hosts in the original and the remake.
22:20
He's watched all those horror movies.
22:21
So he has that knowledge prior.
22:23
That's why it works, even when I first saw it when I was young.
22:26
It works.
22:28
Jon: that's a big difference in the two also original Italy and his
22:33
love of horror and that Fright Night franchise in particular discovers
22:39
the vampire first in the remake.
22:41
It's Ed.
22:42
Ed is all over Jerry being a vampire way before he drags Charlie in
22:49
Ryan : I prefer Charlie dragging Ed into it.
22:51
it's more clear because Charlie lives next door He should see Jerry being
22:55
a vampire instead of Ed stalking him.
22:58
it's creepy.
22:59
what are you doing?
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Oh, he's a vampire.
23:01
What if he wasn't a vampire, Ed?
23:02
Alright, he's just a gardener, planting potatoes.
23:05
Kearns: everyone.
23:06
Gardener.
23:07
Nothing to see here, folks.
23:09
Jon: on the outskirts of Las Vegas.
23:11
Kearns: Right where potatoes thrive.
23:13
Jon: Yeah.
23:14
Kearns: What else was revealed in the documentary that blew you away?
23:17
Jon: two of the coolest things I got out of that documentary, one of the big
23:21
questions I had watching the original is, do vampires really like apples that much?
23:27
ate that apple through the movie.
23:29
Kearns: you think he did that?
23:29
Why do you think they went with the apple?
23:31
Jon: learned about that.
23:32
So Tom Holland had each actor write a biography for the character
23:37
before they started filming.
23:39
Sarandon wrote that in because he discovered that the majority
23:43
of bats weren't vampiric, but they were fruit eating.
23:47
So he thought it would be a nice twist give his vampire based on bats.
23:53
fruit as sort of like a crutch.
23:56
the apple comes from Chris Sarandon.
23:59
Kearns: Chris Sarandon nailed it.
24:00
He's a little too hip for the room because the majority of people are not going to
24:04
know unless you watch crocodile Dundee.
24:06
Anybody remember the iconic scene crocodile Dundee 2 or 1?
24:10
I think it's 2 where they're in the outback and they crush up the fruit.
24:14
and they throw, it on the guys.
24:15
So the bats go after them.
24:17
they're called flying foxes in Australia.
24:18
They're huge.
24:19
that's how I know that's true.
24:21
Jon: The other sort of cool revelation I got from the documentary is
24:25
William Ragsdale cost the production company a hundred thousand dollars.
24:29
Kearns: Oh, shoot.
24:30
Jon: he's running down the stairs, not being chased, just
24:33
Kearns: Oh,
24:35
Jon: they did a bunch of takes and on the last take he tripped and broke his foot.
24:40
it leads to delays because he can't do all the other sets and like stuff
24:44
like that And you could apparently when they went and re watched the
24:48
tape You could hear his foot break.
24:50
he gets sent to a doctor by, the insurance company, he's honest with the doctor.
24:57
they're like, so does this really cost filming time?
25:00
And like, Nah, I mean mostly I just sit around and wait
25:04
for them to be ready for me.
25:06
When the opposite answer is what they really needed him to give.
25:10
Kearns: That's funny.
25:10
Jon: But, they had to change some stuff and go over time
25:29
Kearns: fought two days later cuz he was terrified his career was over.
25:32
Ryan : You know what's crazy is he breaks his foot running down normal
25:36
steps, but you watch Nightmare on Elm Street when Nancy's climbing
25:39
up the steps and sinking in.
25:40
No one broke their foot or ankle on that.
25:42
that was more dangerous, than walking down regular steps.
25:45
The simplicity can kill you when you don't think about it.
25:49
Kearns: I've gone down on ass over tea kettle on my steps just
25:52
because I was wearing socks.
25:53
Jon: yep.
25:56
Kearns: for those kids listening, landing on your ass above a certain age.
26:00
It's just a different experience, guys.
26:02
Jon: Landing on anything after a certain age is a different experience.
26:07
Kearns: Fair point.
26:08
Ryan : It's like home alone, but not funny.
26:11
Kearns: Yeah, not funny Marv!
26:12
I think he's dead.
26:14
Harry, I can't feel my legs, Harry!
26:15
Oh, man.
26:17
Aw, Fright Night, Fright Night.
26:18
So, alright guys.
26:20
else do we want to segue into besides what I know Ryan's sitting on?
26:24
Ryan : I got that ending in my head.
26:26
If you want to cover the original endings of fright night.
26:29
Kearns: I was fishing for it.
26:30
Let's do it.
26:30
Jon: Silence.
26:32
Ryan : the original ending before there was like a whole bunch of
26:35
revisions and everything, the original ending was going to have
26:38
Peter Vincent hosting fright night.
26:39
And as he's hosting Fright Night on live TV, he's transforming into a vampire bat
26:45
because he got turned into a vampire.
26:47
I think that would have been so different because it would have been more of a
26:51
shocker and it would have been awesome because like Charlie would have been
26:53
watching it and it would have been like oh shit Peter Vincent turning into
26:57
a vampire is it's unique, especially for that time for a shock ending where
27:01
there was few in between, because I feel like at that time, sleep away camp
27:04
really comes to mind, or, Friday the 13th, when Jason comes out of the water.
27:08
Kearns: jump scare one.
27:10
No, I think that ending slaps.
27:13
I can't say it would be better, but I love that idea.
27:16
you feel safe.
27:17
Everything's good.
27:18
You have that good feeling, the good side one, and then whatever
27:22
he's doing and the transformation.
27:23
then you cut to credits, you win, and then you roll into Van Halen or something
27:28
Ryan : Runnin with
27:29
Kearns: Yeah.
27:30
bam.
27:30
You got it I think I would elevate it a bit.
27:32
Ryan : I love the Evil Ed ending.
27:34
Jon: I like that is it still there?
27:36
Did you see eyes and hear the laugh and stuff?
27:40
is it imagination?
27:41
I like the way that sort of left.
27:43
Ryan : It screws with you.
27:45
It's like the end of Hellraiser, where it's like, What's your pleasure?
27:48
And it's like, Oh no, we're going through this all over again.
27:51
I'm stoked.
27:52
Jon: And I think if you're gonna shoot for twist ending, you're not gonna outdo Camp.
27:58
Ryan : Oh god, no.
27:59
Jon: nothing about that is, you can replicate.
28:02
I just learned today, Felisa Rose, who was the girl in Sleepaway Camp, is gonna
28:08
be at Connecticut Horror Fest in May.
28:10
Kearns: Oh,
28:11
Ryan : I need her to make the face.
28:12
If we take a picture, if I go, it's just like, why would you want her to smile?
28:16
You want her to do the face,
28:18
Jon: absolutely.
28:19
Kearns: Yeah.
28:19
Jon: Do you know how many times she poses that way?
28:22
Kearns: lot.
28:22
having done a few of the cons now and getting to watch the people
28:25
up there for two days in a row.
28:27
she's probably done a 10, 000 times at this point.
28:30
Jon: for sure.
28:31
Ryan : that's the great thing.
28:32
They love it because they love the fans.
28:34
Kearns: that too.
28:35
Ryan : It probably gets sickening after a while, but
28:37
then they revamp and do it again.
28:38
Kearns: Yeah.
28:39
so that's the original ending to fright night, which John
28:42
prefers the one they went with.
28:44
Which is good too, the way, I'm not saying anything otherwise.
28:48
It is good.
28:48
But any other juicy little morsels or tidbits you guys want to go over
28:52
before we roll into your fives?
28:53
Jon: like there's a couple of things that struck me like in the original gets
28:58
Peter Vincent to finally come around to the fact that is the vampire just his own
29:04
self importance and vanity that he's like got his little pocket mirror out checking
29:09
himself and he's like, Oh, wait a minute.
29:11
Jerry's not in the reflection.
29:14
I thought that was a cool touch.
29:15
Also, one of the things I thought the 2011 one did really well was
29:20
sort of reinvent the vampire rules.
29:23
That, or at, modernize them, not reinvent, where now you can't
29:28
see a vampire on a video camera.
29:30
thought that was a really good touch, that it, to take it into a more modern setting.
29:36
Kearns: One of the things that would have ruined the original ending because
29:38
they would have been recording on TV Right, that would have ruined it.
29:41
But now you're right.
29:42
That's that's a huge one If you're not gonna show reflection, you
29:45
wouldn't capture their image.
29:46
cool idea
29:47
Jon: the other thing that struck me towards the end of the original
29:50
apparently, and they acknowledge this in the documentary, a woman gets turned
29:55
into a vampire, she becomes sexier, her hair grows, and her boobs grow.
29:59
Kearns: That's scientifically proven.
30:01
It happens in LA all the time.
30:02
Ryan : That wasn't happening to Marcy Darcy.
30:04
Kearns: That wasn't happening to Marcy Darcy.
30:07
She didn't get the Botox breast implant, vampire treatment,
30:10
Ryan : just needed Bundy to walk in at that point.
30:12
Kearns: Marcy Darcy.
30:13
That was another fun spotting.
30:16
Her again was awesome.
30:17
Can't remember his name.
30:18
her husband from the later seasons is in the show shrinking, that
30:22
my wife and I watch, and it's hilarious to see him acting again.
30:26
He's amazing too.
30:27
In the show.
30:28
He's just It plays a guy named Derek.
30:32
But, anyway.
30:32
You remember the first husband was Steve.
30:34
second husband's name, I can't remember now.
30:36
But that's who he is.
30:38
Jon: the series of TV shows that failed.
30:41
I always confuse him with the guy from
30:43
He's not the guy from Scrubs, but their names are similar.
30:47
Kearns: Cox?
30:47
Jon: janitor.
30:48
Kearns: Jefferson Milhouse Darcy.
30:51
The guy's name is Ted McGinley.
30:52
Jon: Gimli.
30:54
Kearns: It's funny.
30:55
It's such a man's world, we're literally talking about the female character from
30:59
the show, and we're like, screw her, we're gonna talk about her counterpart.
31:06
Ted McGinley,
31:07
We remember.
31:08
Marcy Darcy.
31:09
she made that show
31:10
Ryan : yeah, the banter
31:11
Jon: what if Marcy Darcy is really Amy and still a vampire?
31:16
Kearns: I'm looking at her headshot Marcy Darcy would have made a killer
31:18
vampire with her Karen haircut.
31:20
Jon: She was Karen before
31:22
Kearns: for real.
31:22
100%. We've got to rebrand them as Marcy's because she looks like
31:26
some kind of Australian waterfowl.
31:28
Ryan : that's why she was called the chicken head.
31:30
Kearns: That's why Al went back and forth That's right.
31:32
But yeah, that's just, I don't know what this movies from that era, when
31:36
you see the actors and they have tendrils out to different shows that
31:39
were part of your formative years, like married with children it's a nice
31:43
little shot into the memory bank of like, ah, that was such a better time.
31:46
Look at her
31:47
Ryan : It
31:49
Kearns: Let him go to the strip club.
31:50
He's a shoe salesman for Christ's sake, Marcy.
31:52
Who plays her character in the remake?
31:55
Jon: Imogen
31:56
Kearns: Oh god, you know, she's okay and out of range.
31:59
That's Imogen Poot?
32:00
Ryan : she was in greed room too.
32:01
Jon: With,
32:02
Yeltsin.
32:02
Kearns: That's why I don't recognize her.
32:04
She looks about five years old in that movie.
32:06
Poot Gets it done as far as acting goes.
32:09
she can stand on the same stage as Thanos and get the job done,
32:13
Josh Brolin, for those who don't know my weird way of talking.
32:16
That's an interesting swap out, though.
32:19
Another one, like Colin Farrell, Imogen Poot.
32:21
And that's what I will say her name like that forever.
32:24
your last name is the same as a soft part.
32:26
Jon: I had
32:26
googled his name just because I was afraid I would think
32:29
Putin, like pot or something.
32:31
Ryan : Transcripts
32:34
Jon: that's the pronunciations.
32:36
Kearns: Poot.
32:36
God.
32:38
Ryan : To continue on Billy Cole, I do feel he added more, and it goes
32:42
back to our first episode where there needs to be a Renfield character.
32:45
Colin Farrell's Jerry Dandridge, he's a powerful vampire.
32:49
But if they included that Renfield style character, Billy Cole it could
32:52
have made it a little more lighthearted on the viciousness of Jerry Dandridge.
32:56
Evil Ed doesn't even,
32:58
Christopher Mintz Ploss, he doesn't even do it justice to make it comedy.
33:01
It's just like, oh, it's just McLovin.
33:04
Where's your ID?
33:04
Kearns: And that's another cancer of these times the way they cast
33:08
things is who's hot right now.
33:09
Let's get the kid from super bad.
33:11
the fat one, no, the one who, shits his pants when girls talk to him.
33:14
Ryan : Should've, gotten Michael Cera.
33:16
That would've been a little bit better.
33:17
Kearns: he would have been better in that role.
33:18
He's well hated, though.
33:20
Lots of people just love to shit on Michael Cera for some re
33:23
Well, actually, I can imagine.
33:24
There's plenty of reasons.
33:25
I liked him in Juno.
33:26
Ryan : Yes.
33:27
Kearns: he's crushed that role he plays himself, but still.
33:30
I don't get the Michael Cera hate.
33:32
Jon: that's part of the hate for him
33:33
Kearns: Yeah,
33:34
Jon: playing himself
33:35
Kearns: such a kooky character, Michael Cera, it works.
33:38
Jonah Hill branched out.
33:39
He's definitely been in some character roles.
33:42
Ryan : Wolf of Wall Street.
33:43
Kearns: Thinking of the teeth, people forget like.
33:45
The character was smoking crack the beginning of the movie and like trying to
33:48
get Leo's character to smoke crack too.
33:51
And then he got made into a multimillionaire by the end of the film.
33:55
Life's not fair.
33:56
Ryan : He eats a live fish.
33:57
Kearns: Yeah.
33:58
Ryan : the actual person did hopefully Jonah Hill did it.
34:00
I knew a guy who worked in stocks and all that during that time.
34:05
And I asked him one day, Was this going on?
34:07
Wolf of Wall Street?
34:08
And he was like, Oh yeah, 100%.
34:09
Everything in that movie went down.
34:12
if you've seen The Wolf of Wall Street, A lot of that stuff did happen.
34:15
Kearns: there's a megalomania to that time period in the stock
34:18
market, I should say, not like in the exchange, but being in those office
34:21
buildings, that was a wonderful time to be a debaucherous asshole.
34:25
Jon: Agreed.
34:26
Ryan : true.
34:26
Or you become Patrick Bateman,
34:28
Kearns: he was ranked one of the least believable psychopaths around
34:31
the same level as Hannibal Lecter.
34:33
What's his name?
34:34
Sugar cigar from no country for old men was the number that's
34:38
one where you're like, yup.
34:39
I get it.
34:39
we should do an episode on that list.
34:41
That would be fun.
34:42
these guys are gonna roll into their top fives.
34:43
I don't know their top five lists this week.
34:45
Jon: they're different again.
34:48
Kearns: Are they
34:48
Ryan : Yeah,
34:49
Jon: what did you go with?
34:51
Ryan : I went with movies in the same realm of Fright Night 1985.
34:55
So, if you love Fright Night, the original one, these are, and the
34:59
2011 one, if you like the 2011 one.
35:02
I have, two movie recommendations, for that, as well as three for
35:05
1985, because the 85 is Better.
35:09
Jon: mine is very different
35:10
Ryan : I'm curious on that.
35:11
So for the 2011 one, I recommend, first 19th, which is about like
35:16
an Uber driver driving around these two females around the city.
35:20
They're having a good time.
35:21
And then.
35:22
He finds out as they're feeding that they're vampires and they take him hostage
35:25
and kind of force him to do their bidding.
35:27
There's that one as well as Day Shift, which stars Jamie Foxx, as well as
35:32
Dave Franco, who was in the 2011 Fright Night, they're vampire hunters.
35:35
I've seen a little bit of it.
35:37
It's very entertaining.
35:38
It's funny.
35:39
Jamie Foxx is, he's good in it.
35:41
He's a good vampire hunter.
35:42
Jon: Silence.
35:45
Ryan : vampire hunter great, cameo, and he kicks ass.
35:48
Snoop Doggy Dogg
35:50
Kearns: for Martha Stewart and Snoop Dogg
35:52
instead
35:52
Ryan : vampire hunters.
35:54
Kearns: he has to kill her for society to continue because she's the queen, vampire.
35:58
you can't just stake her through the heart.
36:00
That's not gonna work this time We gotta find another way
36:02
Ryan : Sunlight.
36:03
A lot of sunlight.
36:04
you gotta throw her in the sun.
36:06
Kearns: You're going to see a recurring theme in future episodes.
36:08
I want to see somebody kill Martha Stewart.
36:10
idea is going to crop up again But Snoop Dogg rolling in is better than the cameo
36:14
when he was Huggy Bear Starsky and Hutch,
36:16
You can't bring in Snoop as a vampire hunter.
36:18
I don't even remember the other people you mentioned, Oscar winner what?
36:22
No, Snoop's here, who cares?
36:24
Jon: a vampire
36:25
Ryan : do Ray Charles
36:26
Kearns: Oh please, can we
36:27
Ryan : Yes.
36:28
Jon: right?
36:30
Ryan : he was the Vampire in Bones.
36:32
Kearns: seen
36:33
Ryan : Yes.
36:35
Kearns: Or seen bones
36:37
Ryan : 2002 Blast from the Past.
36:39
I remember the art it looked like an album cover.
36:42
As he's there, I'm like, oh, is he gonna sing Nope.
36:44
Total opposite.
36:46
Kearns: that's when you got your album covers from Sam Goody
36:48
Jon: Yep
36:49
Kearns: when the cover of an album mattered like you Were buying a CD or a
36:53
record my god Do you remember when they were dueling for space vinyl versus CDs?
36:57
And those middle bins anyway, I will continue to prattle on back
37:01
Five
37:02
Ryan : I just got three more.
37:03
These are related to Fright Night 1985.
37:05
If you love that movie, I recommend a movie called Vamp.
37:08
It's just come up through Shudder, 5.
37:11
99 again.
37:12
It stars Grace Jones as a stripper vampire, and these three guys who
37:17
are in college are trying to join a fraternity, and they're trying to, you
37:20
know, Get like good with the fraternity.
37:22
So they're going to hire strippers and they get locked into this strip
37:26
club and have to fend for their lives.
37:29
It's like pre from dust till dawn, to be honest, if I see it, but more 80 ish and
37:33
Grace Jones in a red wig and white makeup.
37:36
With really red lips.
37:38
It's pretty, it's like an iconic image.
37:40
I would say from that film,
37:41
Kearns: I may be looking that up right now.
37:43
Ryan : The second one is Jim Carrey's once bitten, Jada loves that movie.
37:47
he turns into a vampire, meets the girl in the nightclub, and he has
37:49
to have sex to reverse everything.
37:51
people who love the original Fright Night will love as well, I think,
37:54
cause it's like got the little horror element, and it's got the
37:57
humor Number one, we talked about it earlier, Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
38:01
I love the show, but the movie is very iconic.
38:04
Christy Swanson, Donald Sutherland, Paul Reubens, Rucker Hauer, Luke
38:09
Perry, Hilary Swank, David Arquette, Thomas Jane, and Stephen Rood.
38:13
Are all in this great movie.
38:14
Jon: get
38:14
Ryan : it's got humor, horror and Rucker Hauer as the main villain
38:19
is a treat, especially after, if you watch the hitcher blade runner,
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it's nice to see him do something zany, but serious at the same time.
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That's my top five, John.
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I got to hear your top five though.
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I'm curious which way you went.
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Thank you.
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Kearns: Yeah,
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Jon: so I went five other Tom Holland projects.
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Kearns: of course
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Ryan : Ooh,
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Jon: I mean, we have a writer, we have a director, he's done some acting.
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And I actually have two honorable mentions this time The Stephen King
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adaptation of Spinner, which he directed.
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Kearns: Yep.
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Jon: And his writing job on Psycho 2.
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the actual 5.
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Ryan : that was a good sequel.
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Jon: it was a pretty good sequel.
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I haven't seen it recently enough for it to be in my top 5.
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But it's a good sequel.
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number five is his episode of the Masters of Horror TV series It was
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called, We All Scream for Ice Cream.
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it's a childhood prank gone wrong.
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Kids kill an ice cream man clown, accidentally, years
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later, he comes back for revenge.
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It's probably the meltiest thing that's ever been on TV.
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My number four is Class of 1984, sort of biographical at this point.
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A new teacher versus a gang of punks in a rough school with
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: Roddy McDowell and a young Michael J. Fox.
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my number two, Cloak and Dagger, which he wrote,
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Kearns: cloaking baggie.
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Jon: And Dabney Coleman, this regular kid and his imaginary friend accidentally
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stumble on equipment that spies are after and it turns into this whole like,
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spy movie, It's a nice nostalgic movie.
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about monsters, cinematic monsters, and a man played by Ray Wise,
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who believes they're real, in the earth, and knows how to find them.
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he leads the crew on a quest to find monsters
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Kearns: cool.
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Jon: Child's Play.
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Kearns: I really like
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Jon: Child's Play is number one.
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Kearns: it's back.
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Ryan : I can't wait to get to that episode.
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Good.
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I just can't wait.
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Kearns: Child's Play got perverted into kiddie movies.
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They got ruined.
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The original Child's Play is scary.
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Ryan : Oh yeah.
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Kearns: It's, the first minutes before they reveal him.
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You know when he's skulking around, you can't see him?
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Chucky I'm talking about?
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Ryan : The little footprints, a flower,
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Kearns: The knife they gave that thing?
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Diabolical, those bastards.
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That movie fucked me up.
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I was so young that was on my mother.
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I saw so many things I shouldn't have before I was 10 Child's Play
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was around when I was 4 or 5.
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I was probably younger than Daniel when I saw Child's Play.
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Ryan : it's got child in the movie, so it's okay for children.
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Kearns: I think that was
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Ryan : people saw it.
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Kearns: I remember it was with my family and they were like,
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let's rent boogie nights.
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I love the seventies and I made it about 20 minutes into it.
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I was like, I'm going to leave, now.
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Heather Graham is gorgeous, but she did just take off her
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clothes in front of my grandma.
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I think I'm out of here.
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child's play was a masterpiece, but it is, I always do find it
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interesting to see connection between an actor and a director.
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And, Humperdinck is in both films.
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Jon: One thing I want to point out about Tom Holland, is his local ties.
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He was born in Poughkeepsie,
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Kearns: Yeah.
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Jon: went to O'odham High School.
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Kearns: Oh, cool.
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Ryan : Wow.
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Jon: he's local
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Kearns: Is he
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Ryan : awesome.
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Jon: with us.
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Kearns: Let's find him.
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Jon: lives in this area
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Kearns: No, I didn't mean dead.
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I didn't didn't Tim Currum, Tim Currium.
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I'm just wondering if he still lives around here.
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Jon: I don't
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Kearns: Rest in peace, Tim, hopefully.
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that would be cool if we ran into him
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Jon: awesome.
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Kearns: and you would recognize him.
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Jon: Absolutely.
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Ryan : cool.
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Kearns: wouldn't it be neat if he just randomly decided to go to Connecticut
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Horror Fest and was walking around?
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But they don't do that sort of thing.
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Those are Bill Murray stories almost exclusively
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Jon: You know who used to be a story like
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Is Grandpa Munster, Al Lewis.
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Kearns: met him
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Jon: multiple times!
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He'd
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Kisco, then Manhattan, and then somewhere.
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He was everywhere all the time.
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Kearns: he connected with people really well I met him at a car show out of
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makeup He was just there to see cars I was or 12 my mom goes, Oh my God,
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that's, what did from the monsters?
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he turned around and started fucking with us because she didn't remember his name.
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Jon: hmm.
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Mm
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Kearns: He was a cool guy, He's a funny old man.
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That's a good reference Child's play.
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All right.
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local legends.
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Well, that's Xenomania episode five on Fright Night 1985 and Fright Night 2011.
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Hope you enjoyed and we're going to catch you next time.
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Next episode is going to be not on child's play.
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What's it going to be on boys?
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Ryan : Fright Night 2.
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Kearns: There's a big curve ball for everybody, but there's continuity.
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Hooray.
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it easy, everybody.
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Jon: ya!