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Win Over Worry With Keri Eichberger · She Speaks Life - Christian Women, Strengthen Your Faith, Bible Study, Grow Spiritually In Christ

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  Hey my friend, welcome back to She Speaks Life.
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  I hope this podcast has been bringing you life, giving
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  content on how us women get through our difficulties with
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  God and how to celebrate with the Lord as he gives us those
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  victories into our lives. This is our last episode of this
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  amazing season and I will be bringing you a brand new season
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  And I am going to announce some new things that we're going to
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  be doing on this podcast to just take She Speaks Life to another
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  level. So stay tuned for today I have
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  with me author Carrie Eichberger.
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  She dives right into sharing with us all about how to unlearn
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  the unhealthy patterns of worry and how to surrender and
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  overcome them with God's power. Some important key points that
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  we talk about here are where does the battle of worry come
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  from? Identifying Worry and How to
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  Uproot, Unload, and unshackle worry, along with how to use
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  those spiritual weapons to conquer worry.
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  Her book is absolutely fantastic.
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  It's called Win Over Worry. Conquer what shakes you and soar
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  with the one who overcomes, and you can win a copy of this book
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  entered in the giveaway. All right, let's get equipped
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  and let's dive into those powerful conversations that I
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  have with Kerry Eichberger. Hey Kerry, welcome to She Speaks
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  Life. I am so excited you are Here you
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  have a book that is coming out. It's called Win Over Worry.
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  Hello, a topic that we can all relate to, and the subtitle is
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  called Conquer. What Shakes you and soar with
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  the one Who Overcomes? And that in itself is so
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  inspiring. And I'd love for you to share
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  your message. But before we do, I always love
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  to kick us off with the guests sharing their favorite scripture
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  verse. Well, absolutely.
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  And first of all, thank you Jamie for having me.
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  It's always a pleasure to get on and talk to someone about worry
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  and all are my what I have struggled with and I know many
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  people can relate to that as well.
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  And you know, my life first comes from.
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  This place of worry for me because that's something that I
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  have always struggled with so much and I'm able to see it in
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  woven through all of my days and most of my moments.
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  And it is the first that most everyone is familiar with.
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  And you've heard it over and over.
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  But it's just it's it's what it speaks to me and I'll explain
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  that, but it's Romans 828. And we know that in all things
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  God works for the good of those who love Him, who have been
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  called according to his purpose. And this verse it to me and all
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  that I face all of my struggles when I can really understand
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  that God is working and Noma and no matter what it is that I'm
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  facing or what is before me and I can understand that he's
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  working it for good. Just because I love him like
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  that's it. And that he's working all things
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  for good and according to his purpose, it relieves so much of
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  that worry and so much of anything that I'm sort of
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  suffering through or not understanding or doesn't make
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  sense to me. Concerns for the future, you
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  know, uncertainty just in my in my current moments or of the
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  things of the past. So I just, I've always loved
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  that verse and every time I read it, it means something different
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  to me based on what I'm experiencing.
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  So also I'll say there's a lot of verses, you know, depending
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  on what we're going through in our life, there's always
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  something else. And just most recently I have
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  fallen in love with Zephaniah 317, which says the Lord your
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  God is with you, the mighty warrior who saves.
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  And you know, I mentioned the other verse being one, like
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  that's something I just no matter.
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  What I'm going through, I can infuse that.
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  Well, recently I felt I was encountering some a little bit
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  more unsettling circumstances. I was traveling to Colorado and
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  I don't really love to fly, and I get into that in my book.
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  That's a whole story in itself. But I also encountered some
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  other circumstances that felt, let's just say, not so safe, a
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  little dangerous. Even as we're hiking up hiking,
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  there was a bus hiking up this mountain, very steep or like
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  looking over cliffs. Everyone thought they were going
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  to die. I'm not kidding.
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  It was. It was a very one of those.
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  Those moments when you. Feel very scary and and I had
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  that verse has been one that right when I took off on the
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  airplane taking off to Colorado I had been repeating that in my
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  head that the Lord your God is with you, the mighty warrior
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  says. And that to me was just
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  reminding me that no matter where I am what I'm going
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  through God is with me. And the mighty warrior that he
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  is, he is sovereign. He is powerful.
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  He is mighty. And when you can have confidence
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  that he he is your protector, he's the the protection that we
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  need and he is watching out for us always with us.
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  There's just so much comfort I find in that And so that's kind
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  of like a a new favorite. So I've got sort of like the
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  oldie but goodie, but that's kind of a new fresh one that's
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  done really speaking to me. I love both of those versus.
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  So great. Yeah.
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  And you know, there's something about that worry, and it's just
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  kind of that knee jerk reaction that our brain goes to.
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  And I love how you're going to talk about how to unlearn that,
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  right? Those unhealthy patterns of
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  worry and how we can surrender and overcome them over to the
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  Lord and the steps we can take. But you know, first I'd love for
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  you to just dive into your story as to why worry is why worry was
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  a struggle for you and why write this message?
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  So you said it. Worry was a struggle for me, and
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  I think many people can relate some.
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  I think you'll you might find that worry is either.
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  Been only a certain part of your past or maybe you never were
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  really a warrior and now you're finding it creep up into your
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  life. It was something that was kind
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  of a constant for me, but starting at a certain age.
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  And so when I decided to start writing this, well, I'll tell
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  you, I really wasn't so sure. I wanted to write this write
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  about worry. And the reason I decided to was
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  because I really wanted to meet my audience where they were.
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  I wanted to help people and I. I asked.
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  I did an online poll and I asked my audience what they struggled
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  with and I gave them the little multiple choice like you have
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  four options and I chose that as one.
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  I hope that they wouldn't say was it.
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  And sure enough, that was like the number one thing people said
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  they struggled with and could use some help and resolution
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  with. And so I thought, OK, well, you
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  know, someone once told me if I was one step ahead of somebody,
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  I can help them. And I thought, you know, all
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  right, God, I can, I can do this.
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  I really could see how. Yes, I.
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  Was a socalled warrior, but I had seen God redeem a lot of my
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  struggle and and show up and relieve a lot of that as I had
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  grown in my faith and and solidifying that foundation.
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  So I just because that's what we were asking for and I decided I
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  would give a shot and I also felt like, you know when you've
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  been there. You can relate to someone, not
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  ever. You know, sometimes you don't
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  want someone to give you advice. I've never been there and I
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  could say I want someone they can relate to.
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  And I've walked that. I've walked that path.
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  I'm still walking it. And I want to, you know,
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  offering to hold hands with the, the, the person who's struggling
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  and say we can do this together. I'll show you how, with God's
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  help, we certainly can. So for me, it started off when I
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  was in high school. Really.
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  Basically, I was. You talked about unhealthy
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  coping, and that's where it all began.
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  It was like my will over God's will and way.
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  And I didn't realize I was doing that at the time.
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  I didn't realize what I was creating in my life.
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  But as I was doing that, as I was like dealing with, you know,
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  struggles, as you, as you encounter life, you encounter
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  more struggle, more pain, more difficulty.
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  You. You.
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  Whether it's something you experience or you watch somebody
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  else endure. And we developed these react,
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  you know, reactions like you said, how are we going to cope?
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  How are going we going to deal with it?
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  And it was, I did it my way. I knew a God that loved me and I
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  was, I grew up in a Christian home.
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  But you know, we don't always live like we believe.
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  We say we believe. And that was sort of what was
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  me. I think a lot of us do that and
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  so I continued to walk through life and it only it works for a
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  while until it doesn't. So I was I was living this life
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  and I was trying to find fulfillment all the wrong things
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  and I was putting bandaids on my struggles and I was developing
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  more worry would would surface. So I was.
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  I found myself avoiding life and trying to control my
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  circumstances and living anxiously.
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  And it it starts to snowball. If you really don't get a hold
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  of it and figure out what's at the root of all that and why
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  you're and and really then turn it over to God, it's snowballs.
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  And that's what happened. Snowballed for me and turned
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  into full blown anxiety, fullblown fear.
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  And it really hit a peak in college when 911 hit and I
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  started having some panic attacks.
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  It went into like lasted for days.
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  Had to seek medical attention for it and that was like my red
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  flag moment that here you've got to do something about this.
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  And that was like this whole beginning of a journey of
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  walking closer with the Lord. And it's been such a beautiful
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  experience. There's so much in that and
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  that's such a, you know, a journey in itself of ups and ups
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  and downs. But I can truly say I've I have
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  walked that path. I have struggled with worry.
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  I've come so far. God has.
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  Shown me how to that He can't overcome this thing.
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  So I know that many people like myself believe that's just the
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  way that they are. And that was what I thought and
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  I just had to learn to sort of deal with it.
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  But God showed me that, you know, he he has the power and we
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  have the power within us because we have him to overcome and to
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  to overcome worry and to conquer.
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  He conquers fear. Yeah, so true.
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  And I look at worry as a futile attempt to control the
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  uncontrollable right. And it's like if we're trying to
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  put it in our own hands, right, instead of giving it over to
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  God's hands, that that leads us to this lack of control because
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  we're trying to do it and we can't do it on our own strength
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  and our own ability. We got to hand over because we
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  can't control everything, so we have to hand it over to the Lord
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  and then that causes the uncertainties of our future,
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  which then leads to this worry. And then if we let the the
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  worry, I always say worry is like the sibling of fear.
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  Now we're into the fear of everything and we know that fear
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  and faith or an opposition, right?
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  And so we need God's word. That's why, you know, when we
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  get closer to the Lord, we're we're not, we're going and
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  diving into His word and what he says.
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  So we're feeding ourselves faith, and if we've got the
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  faith, then then the fear has it dilutes right when we when we
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  fill ourselves with His word. And so if God's not in the
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  center of our lives, we're putting something else there in
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  its place. We're gonna have a relationship
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  with worry because we're not having a relationship with God
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  on a daily basis. We're having a relationship with
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  worry because we're relying on something else to take the
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  center of our life. And we know those are the idols
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  or distractions or, you know, the things that we're coming up
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  like you were saying, your own will and way is what you're
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  trying to rely on, which we can't.
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  We got to rely on that perfect God that created us and that he
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  sees from beginning to end, the big picture, everything.
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  He's gone before us, He's with us.
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  But we for some reason, you know, we're human.
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  And worry just automatically comes first, which it shouldn't.
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  Right, right. Right.
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  Absolutely. Yeah.
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  You mean you said it. You mentioned the word control.
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  And that's a big one for me, for a lot of us.
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  And I really highlight this in the book that that's something
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  that, you know, we say we believe God's in control, but
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  the way we live our lives sometimes looks like we think
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  we're in control. And that is a daily battle for
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  me. And I know many people out
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  there, they're listening. It's like we we, we try to
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  manipulate our circumstances. We want to control our
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  circumstances and and we think we can.
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  But ultimately, like no matter really what it is, God has the
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  ultimate say and he can do whatever he wants with anything
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  that's in our circumstances and alter it for his good.
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  So I think that's something that, and that's a really
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  comforting thing. I mean, for me, knowing that
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  he's in control. And knowing that he's good.
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  It's those two things combined that he loves that he loves us
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  and he's in control. Those are just two.
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  Those two truths are really critical and key in tackling
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  this beast of worry that God is in control and that he is good.
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  Because if we can believe with all of our hearts that he is
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  sovereign and he has everything in his hands, every detail of
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  our day and our lives and His hands, if we can really.
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  Grasp that and we can grasp how big or start to grasp how big
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  His love is for us, then we can. We really have nothing to worry
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  about, you know? No.
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  Easier said than done. But it's so true.
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  We really, if we can, if we can grasp those two things, then
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  worry has no chance. Yeah, yeah, it's so true.
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  I I always say you first you have to have a relationship with
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  God, and when you have a relationship with God then
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  you're gonna know how much you are loved and valued by by God.
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  He's constantly saying how much we are valued to him and how
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  much we are loved unconditionally by him.
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  And I think that is key when we can actually get our roots into
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  that and really settle and rest in knowing no matter what, God
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  loves me. He values me.
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  I once heard about the word of God.
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  It's like an insurance policy. Like once you know you're
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  covered, like when you know you're, you've got car
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  insurance, like you don't think about, you don't worry about it.
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  You're just like oh OK I I'm insured right.
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  And it's like the word of God is like an insurance policy it we
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  don't have to worry because God has is covered and so so let's
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  talk about identifying worry let let's kind of go from the
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  beginning of you know uncovering the enemy where where would you
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  like to start with that. So the really key thing here,
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  and really winning over worry is.
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  Determining Well, what are you worried about first?
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  Because a lot of times we don't even realize we're worrying and
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  you know it's there or we might just notice.
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  We know we have these fears in general, but they really
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  manifest in a lot of ass worry throughout our day.
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  So for me it's figuring out first.
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  All right, let's lay out your worries right.
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  We go through your process writing them all down.
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  Let's lay it all out there. Let's get all the junk in front
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  of you. All the worries that you have
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  and and the reason I do that is because.
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  I think it's important to first look at what the problem is
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  before we can do anything about resolving it and that's kind of
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  with anything. But once we can identify what
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  we're worried about what the what we really are after is
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  what's at the root of that. So I think a lot of people know
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  they have certain worries and we want to put little band aids on
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  those those worries and and try to just at the surface to
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  dismantle them and that can help temporarily.
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  But at the root of it, there's some fear, and I really narrow
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  it down to a couple root fears that all of these worries are
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  can tie back to. And the reason I'm doing that is
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  because I'm what I want to people to realize that there's
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  fear. And when we realize it's fear,
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  we can also say these fears are false.
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  These are lies from the enemy. So I'm covering the true enemy
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  is saying like it's fear. And this is the enemy that is
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  trying to speak these lies to your heart.
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  And once you acknowledge that, sometimes just acknowledging
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  that alone is enough for me to say, you know, out of here and
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  I'm not going to fall for it, but it's then taking those lies
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  and. Covering that with the truths of
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  God. So this is false.
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  Or believing these. And there's I'll just go ahead
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  and say the couple of fears that I narrowed down to are a fear of
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  helplessness and a fear of being unworthy.
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  So fear of of unworthiness. So and that's.
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  You know, if you think about it, let's just throw out of a worry
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  that we have about, you know, a lot of us can relate to, to
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  worries about our kids. And I've got a son who's 16 and
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  he's starting to drive now and I worry about him driving, you
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  know. So I got this process of let's
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  figuring out what's at the root of this, really, what am I
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  really worried about? And so if you ask yourself why
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  am I worried about that? Without going through the entire
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  process and taking all your time, it really is.
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  So I'm. I'm really worried about losing
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  a child something happening to him and well, then past that
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  what do you why am I worried about that and what you because
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  that just people saw people just stop right there And he's like
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  that's a legitimate worry, right.
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  Well, you know, yes, because anything can happen.
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  But I'm worried about that because it's like, then what?
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  You know, we don't always acknowledge that God's going to
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  be there with us, even in those moments, but it's really a fear
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  of of helplessness and being like we lose something and we
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  can't even imagine ourselves sometimes being able to to deal
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  with life to cope. What we're forgetting is that
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  God is there and because and that the lie is that we're
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  helpless because we're not ever helpless because we have God.
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  Because we always have him and he is always there.
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  We are never helpless and and even though that doesn't take it
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  away take all of those big worries and fears away when you
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  can just apply that truth to that fear.
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  It has a lot of power to change the way that we see it and even
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  the way that it it shows up in our life, so.
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  That's just one of the fear also of of being unworthy.
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  So a lot of times it's like let's say we have, we have,
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  we're worried about people, someone thinks about us, you
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  know, our social situation or fear of rejection.
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  At the root of that, if you work through this process, we really
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  are fearful of being unloved and then being fear.
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  This fear of of unworthiness, well, that's also a lie.
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  Because we are never unworthy. Because God says, because God
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  loves us. And his his love is perfect.
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  We have value and worth because we are his children.
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  We are children of the king and there is so much worth and
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  that's non negotiable. We we are we are sealed with as
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  our identity in him and and there's so many things that I go
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  through and talk about and opening up those two ideas but
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  and then there's a process of like taking that we take this
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  sphere bringing it to the light exposing it for what it is as a
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  lie, surrendering in that to God.
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  Again talking about control, surrendering it that God is in
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  control. We really ultimately have no say
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  over what happens ultimately. But then when we can just grasp
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  these concepts. So I We say that we believe God
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  and we say that God loves us, but how do we?
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  What does that look like in our life?
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  We need to practice that. So I walk through this process
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  in the book of what's it look like to unleash peace and joy
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  and purpose in the face of fear, all those things in our identity
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  and who we are as his children. So there's it's, again, it's a
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  practicing piece and there's, I think that we need sometimes
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  more. And there's a lot of it is in
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  just learning scripture, like you said.
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  But I'm also not one that's great at memorizing these
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  memorizing scripture. It has to be practiced.
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  It really does. And the enemy wants us to
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  forget. He wants us to forget the truth
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  and forget those those words. And I think that's probably
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  what's going on for me. Well, I can't remember them, but
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  I can't remember that God bless me and I can't remember that he
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  is sovereign and he is in control.
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  Yes, I know, Knowing God's word and taking what Jesus did and
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  his example to make the enemy flee, He spoke out scripture
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  three times for the enemy to to to flee when he was tempted in
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  the wilderness and so we can take that.
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  Perfect example of speaking out the words.
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  Sometimes, you know, it's not enough.
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  Like, I'll read it. But there's something about,
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  like tangibly saying it out of your mouth and speaking it out
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  into the atmosphere and, you know, having what Jesus did to
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  make the enemy go away. And because that's exactly what
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  the enemy is trying to do. We know that that the worry and
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  fear is from the enemy and we can stop it from from dwelling,
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  you know, from taking that elevator from our mind into our
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  hearts, right? And the way we can do that is
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  take that thought captive with truth and turn it around and
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  cover it with God's word and. I also you have a chapter on
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  prayer lifting, unloading it, lifting up in prayer.
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  And I love that because just like you, I've had three
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  teenagers going through the whole driving process and it
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  does get easier after the first. But there's always.
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  I I get that. I get the root of that fear.
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  Not wanting to lose a child, not wanting them to get in an
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  accident. And when I got to that place, I
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  immediately went in a prayer. Because the prayer and the power
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  in that, and it wasn't just protecting my child, but keep
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  like the choices of the others on the road away.
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  Like the poor choices away from my children, right.
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  And so it in it. And.
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  After you're praying that you, you feel like you're just, you
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  have the supernatural circle of the shield around them.
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  And oftentimes when I go into that worry and fear, it's
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  because I'm lacking my prayer life, I'm lacking being in the
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  word. And so, you know, it's, it's the
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  last thing that sometimes we do because we're trying to like
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  come up with a solution ourselves, you know, and and.
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  And really, all we need to do is take it out of our hands, into
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  the Lord's hands, and just give them all our concerns.
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  The scripture verse and Philippians 46 you know, with
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  everything, prayer and Thanksgiving.
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  And I find that just extremely beneficial when it comes to
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  worry, I think with everything. But when we're talking about
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  worry, it's kind of an instant remedy for me.
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  Absolutely, Yeah. You know, something occurred to
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  me. So I wrote this chapter about
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  prayer, like you said. And my first thought was, OK,
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  people are going to think, all right, really a chapter about
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  prayer. Of course we're supposed to pray
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  when we worry. And.
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  But it was something that I really picked up on.
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  This was the this idea that, OK, not to call people out, but we
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  can do, I can do so much better with this.
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  And I don't know how many of the listeners are familiar with the
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  the instruction in the Bible to pray continually.
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  So I took those two words or pray without ceasing.
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  The Bible says, like, do we really do that?
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  No, We pray. We might pray a lot even, but
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  are we really praying continuously?
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  And so even though that seems unrealistic, you know, unless
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  we're like, you know, nuns to be praying nonstop, it's a goal.
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  And I'll tell you when for me, and I'm sure many can relate.
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  When I pray, I immediately you said the supernatural sense
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  surrounds you immediately sense more peace.
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  It doesn't matter what I'm praying about or in that moment,
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  and it may not go away completely, but it does.
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  It does have the power to put more peace over the situation.
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  So immediately my perspective shifts and there is less worry
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  now, I think the more the. So to me it's like, oh, if we
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  could just pray all the time, wouldn't that be so much better?
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  So I really go through some practical ways we can
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  incorporate more prayer. And it's just conversation with
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  God. You know, we all heard people
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  say start your day with prayer. And I do that as well.
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  But I can. I can pray and walk out the door
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  and two seconds later something smacks me in the face that has
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  me all worried again, or flustered or angry or whatever
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  it might be. And it's I need to really put
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  those touch points throughout my day of of praying and talking to
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  God. And sometimes that just looks
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  like worshipping their music and it's definitely continuing to to
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  pray over meals and you know but it's it's finding ways to
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  continue to do that throughout your day and and practicing
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  that's just the that's the key for a lot of these things.
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  It's just making a habit of it and practicing it more and more
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  and and that's just one component of overcoming this and
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  relearning how to to to to cope the right way with God and
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  that's talking to him about it. But it's doing it, making that
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  your go to making prayer your go to when, immediately, when
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  something, when, whenever that trigger happens.
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  Like for me recently when I was flying, as much as I have never
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  haven't liked to fly, I've now started to appreciate the sweet,
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  intimate time that I get with the Lord in the midst of a fear.
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  Because I know what helps me is when I just talk to him
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  throughout it. I mean, I take off and I
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  immediately I just, I just sit there and I'm.
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  I allow him to just hold me in his arms and I just talk to him
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  about what I'm struggling with. And I actually thank him.
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  I'll thank him for being with me and holding me and keeping me
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  safe in those moments and just allowing me an opportunity to
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  rely on him and to be dependent on him.
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  So I think prayer is huge and it's just and just conversation.
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  I think sometimes you'd be confused as we want to make this
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  too complicated and feel like we have to have it super
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  structured. If we're just talking to God in
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  the shower or in the carpool line or wherever you might be,
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  maybe it's just praying when you're in the grocery store
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  over, you know, a choice. It's the little things, Ethan,
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  that you know, we find that that we struggle with there, where
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  Satan wants to show up everywhere to throw us off
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  course. So it's just to have it.
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  Yeah, exactly. It's a it's a daily practice,
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  like you're saying. It's just not a one.
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  And done. Oh, I I did it on Monday.
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  It's going to take me through the week, you know.
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  No, we need it every single day. And I think to taking things one
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  day at a time is key too. And you know that's trusting God
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  when we worry is key because I mean when we and not to say that
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  we can't plan but you know when we are looking forward to the
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  future too much we're kind of take we're taking off the focus
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  off of God and it makes us not be able to trust them as as much
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  But if we just look at. OK, trusting God for today.
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  There's scripture verse on that. You know tomorrow's got its own
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  troubles and it's like it's in there for reason, right?
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  Right. And so just trusting God with
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  your everyday and that today and not looking too far into the
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  future because that just automatically stirs up these
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  what ifs and those what ifs are dangerous.
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  Those are those worry triggers and.
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  So good. So is there anything that we did
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  not cover that you would like to share and then we can just lead
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  right into a take away? You know, the big one for me, I
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  love this. The second-half the book is when
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  I really opened up all the possibilities that we have in
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  this freedom. When we when we are, when we
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  make the choice to to lock our arms with God and allow him to
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  to learn more about Him and infuse the truths into our life
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  and rely on Him. And when we released this, I've
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  seen my life open up in such beautiful ways.
• 30:22
  When I stopped avoiding things because of fear.
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  And when I stopped living anxiously, I was able to walk in
• 30:28
  a purpose that I didn't see before, because I was afraid to
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  step out and step and step into whatever he wanted me to do in
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  trusting Him. And there's so much blessing
• 30:41
  beyond our worries and our fears.
• 30:44
  And when we just allowed that, I just think that's when life
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  opened up for me. When I allowed myself to to
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  release all of this, even just to a degree.
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  I still have a ways to go. And this is an ever.
• 30:57
  This is a process. But the more I have learned to
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  trust God and and really soak in the truth of his love and of his
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  power, it's allowed me to do things I never would have done
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  before, go places I hadn't gone and just experience a joy in
• 31:14
  life that I didn't experience before.
• 31:17
  So I just, I really love. Like I mentioned that
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  second-half the book, I really opened up what that looks like,
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  but that what that joy can look like for each person.
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  With that, what the peace looks like.
• 31:27
  I know how much we're missing, and we would be all along for
• 31:30
  peace and nervous and joy. And there's just so much of that
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  available when we really do the work to dig in and to with God
• 31:39
  to overcome. It's freeing.
• 31:42
  We get freedom from it and like you said, our.
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  Lives become more fulfilled because we're doing what he's
• 31:51
  called us to do and fear. You just have to face it and
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  just March through it and and the more you do it, the less it
• 32:01
  becomes a power over you. Because I feel like you're
• 32:06
  showing the enemy, look, your tactics aren't working anymore.
• 32:09
  I'm doing it anyway. And then it dissipates and it
• 32:13
  starts to. Dilute it's hold on you and so
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  long with the word and prayer and just doing it regardless and
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  having that confidence and that God has already put in us and
• 32:29
  He's already equipped us. And we just have to keep that
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  narrative going on over and over again in our minds until, you
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  know, we're finally, like you're saying, experiencing it, living
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  it out and actually. Believing our belief like you're
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  saying. So.
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  All right, let's I always love to conclude with a take away,
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  Something the listener can ponder on or take action in.
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  And where can people buy your awesome book?
• 32:59
  You know, I want everyone. I want people to understand.
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  And this because you hear all the stuff, it sounds great.
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  You know, we have worries and fears and I would love to, you
• 33:06
  know, to have some make some progress here.
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  And I think people are skeptical, but I will say it's a
• 33:13
  choice, and it really is a choice to to do the work.
• 33:18
  Like you said, it's not, it's not easy.
• 33:19
  But with God, what I want people to understand and know is God
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  has conquered this because he has conquered the enemy.
• 33:26
  We're dealing here, we're dealing with here is the enemy.
• 33:30
  And we can conquer that because God has already conquered the
• 33:34
  enemy. And we can conquer all fear and
• 33:36
  our worry because of this victory that has already been
• 33:40
  claimed, and it's ours for the taking.
• 33:43
  And God wants that for us. A love first, John 5, verse four
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  says for everyone born of God overcomes the world.
• 33:51
  This is the victory that's overcome the world, even our
• 33:53
  faith. And so I just want people to to
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  know that there is hope. If there's hope for me, there's
• 33:59
  hope for you. There's hope for all of us to
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  overcome not only our fear and worry, but whatever it is that
• 34:03
  we're struggling with. God doesn't want to just leave
• 34:05
  us that way. Yeah, that's so good.
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  OK, where can everybody contact you and get that book?
• 34:14
  Yeah. So OK, I hang out on social
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  media. Instagram's my fave and you can
• 34:20
  find me there. Kerry Ike Burger and my website
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  kerryikeburger.com. You can contact me. e-mail me
• 34:27
  Actually is me behind the e-mail so you can reach out.
• 34:30
  I love to pray for others and just connect with with people
• 34:35
  all over the all over the world and in the country.
• 34:38
  And my books on Amazon right now and you can it's it'll be it's
• 34:43
  available for preorder. It'll be available for at least
• 34:46
  September 12th. And yeah, I'm excited for get a
• 34:51
  dig in and and learn more. Such a great book.
• 34:55
  Well, thank you Carrie. And you are such an inspiration
• 34:59
  on Instagram with your encouraging reels and how much
• 35:04
  you just pour out into others. And that takes time, but it also
• 35:10
  takes a lot of that. Quiet time with the Lord to what
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  you get in the private, to take it out to the public.
• 35:19
  And I know we all need it. We all need to pass through that
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  on our feed and hear a word of truth with such a world that's
• 35:30
  so dark at times. So I just love what you're
• 35:34
  doing. And I'm grateful for you.
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  And thank you for coming on here.
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  Thank you, Jamie. I appreciate it.
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  Thank you so much for listening today, and I trust that God has
• 35:45
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  through your own life story.