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The Jesse Ventura They Don't Want You To See Pt. 3: FEMA Camps (Repost) · Conspiracy! The Show

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Speaker 1: W t inurance.
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Speaker 2: I'm a check couple. Hey, everybody, welcome to Conspiracy the Show.
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Speaker 2: I'm Adam Todd Brown. Who are you?
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Speaker 1: I'm Olivia Hidar and who are we?
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Speaker 2: We are your co hosts Olivia. How's it going?
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Speaker 1: Oh, you know, not bad. Can't complain. I'm living in
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Speaker 1: a police state.
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Speaker 2: But other than that, are you excited to expose the truth? Oh?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. This episode is gonna get banned.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this we're we're putting this one out for free.
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Speaker 2: We've been covering the highly banned second season of Conspiracy
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Speaker 2: Theory with Jesse Mansura.
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Speaker 1: It's another victim of cancel culture, except it wasn't canceled.
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Speaker 1: That got renewed for a third season.
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Speaker 2: But then it got canceled, so oh.
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Speaker 1: It definitely got canceled. It is. It's it's so weird
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Speaker 1: that you can easily find the first season and you
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Speaker 1: can easily find the third season. But is it but like,
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Speaker 1: is it just because of this episode or is it
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Speaker 1: because of because like the first season had the harp episode, right.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the harp episode I think is one that's missing. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: but like it's on daily Motion just like the rest of.
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Speaker 1: The well, I mean, yeah, everything, and we'll cover the.
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Speaker 2: Harp episode at some point. Yeah, we're making this one
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Speaker 2: free because this is this is the one, This is
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Speaker 2: the one that people really got upset over and it
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Speaker 2: never aired more than once.
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Speaker 1: The people deserve to know, and I you know, this
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Speaker 1: might be a bombshell that we can talk about as
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Speaker 1: we go. But I have a conspiracy theory about why
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Speaker 1: they went so hard on this episode.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think I can see where that conspiracy
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Speaker 2: theory's going, too.
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Speaker 1: Uh, because there's a lot of interesting things and a
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Speaker 1: lot of it is super inflammatory and probably untrue, but
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Speaker 1: it comes from a specific source and perspective that I
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Speaker 1: think ties into this.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: I think it's interesting. It's a really interesting episode.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have I have a theory about it too.
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Speaker 2: It mine mostly revolves around Alex Jones. Same same, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so this is going to be a fun episode. That's
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Speaker 2: why we're putting it out for free. Absolutely, this is
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Speaker 2: an important sode. Yeah, we've been covering this entire season,
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Speaker 2: so we're we're four episodes in. Next week's bonus episode
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Speaker 2: is going to be episode three, which covers Wall Street
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Speaker 2: and that one's also a doozy of an episode.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that wouldn't rules.
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Speaker 2: It rules because it's mostly true.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's just a document.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's uh the short that led to the
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Speaker 2: big short.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it when we get to that episode.
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Speaker 1: But it's it's kind of like a straight faced Borett
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Speaker 1: get a little bit and it rules. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's talk about the Police State episode. Yes,
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Speaker 2: I didn't know there was a pandemic angle to this.
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Speaker 2: I didn't remember. I vividly remember seeing this episode, but
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Speaker 2: I didn't remember the pandemic thing.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and that is definitely Yeah. Again, it ties into
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Speaker 1: why this was banned.
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Speaker 2: I think the the opening scene is very confusing because
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Speaker 2: it's just it just immediately cuts to Jesse Ventura and
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Speaker 2: Alex Jones, like stalking through the forth. They look like
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Speaker 2: the fucking monkeys or something like that from behind trees. Yes,
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Speaker 2: why shit, it's a monkey's video.
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Speaker 1: I mean the banned It literally is like they're hiding
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Speaker 1: behind one tiny tree and like poking out either side.
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Speaker 1: It's so funny, and.
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Speaker 2: Then they they don't really they just cut away from that,
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Speaker 2: and we're supposed to know what that was all about.
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Speaker 2: They are looking at a bunch of things that they
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Speaker 2: say are coffins, sure, and we'll get to it. They are,
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Speaker 2: but it's not what you think America. So Jesse's first
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Speaker 2: actual interview is with some woman named Catherine Bleisch, and Jesse,
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Speaker 2: in introducing her, gets way into can you believe girls
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Speaker 2: do things too? Territory? He's like, the government's watching her,
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Speaker 2: but she's a girl.
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Speaker 1: What does an innocent girl have to do with the government.
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Speaker 2: It is a quintessential early twenty ten this moment.
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Speaker 1: Is this girl really a threat to the United States?
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Speaker 2: Like maybe, yeah, maybe outside. I don't want to take
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Speaker 2: that from women that they can never threaten the safety
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Speaker 2: of the United States, Absolutely sane. The reason she feels
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Speaker 2: like she might be considered a threat is because she
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Speaker 2: found out an agency in her state said she should
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Speaker 2: be considered a threat to law enforcement. And it turns
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Speaker 2: out all she did to get labeled subversive was to
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Speaker 2: work with Ron Paul. Yeah, which I don't know. That
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Speaker 2: does seem a little extreme in terms of reasons to
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Speaker 2: surveil someone.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's not good, definitely. I think surveillance
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Speaker 1: state in general sucks.
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Speaker 2: But what people never take into account, like I'm not
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Speaker 2: saying it's right obviously, but we have so many intelligence
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Speaker 2: agencies with such huge budgets, they have time for this.
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, we like to think, Oh, the government doesn't
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Speaker 2: have time to come show up at my tiny environmental meeting.
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Speaker 2: The fuck they don't. They got time, They got the people,
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Speaker 2: and they have the.
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Speaker 1: Money and the motivation.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't I don't doubt that. What's Ron Paul
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Speaker 2: a libertarian?
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Speaker 1: Is that what his kind of I mean, he's a Republican, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but he's you know, it's it's one of those he's
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Speaker 1: he is the closest to a classical libertarian that we
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Speaker 1: have had in Congress basically in a long time at least.
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Speaker 1: But you know, like most modern libertarians, he's libertarian up
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Speaker 1: to a point and way to a fault. Where to
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Speaker 1: the point where he like in his like presidential debates
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Speaker 1: and stuff, he was talking about defunding the Department of
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Speaker 1: Education and like he's a no, exactly, it's it, and
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Speaker 1: like he is, he's a he is a monstrous person
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Speaker 1: in so many ways as a politician, but he does
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Speaker 1: you know, have you know as a libertarian? I used
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Speaker 1: to be a libertarian. I don't know if I've ever
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Speaker 1: talked about this on the show because it you know,
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Speaker 1: when I was like a lateeen early twenties in you know,
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Speaker 1: in Indiana where it's just kind of so oppressively red state,
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Speaker 1: the libertarian is that I read about and understood was
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Speaker 1: like more leftist than anything else. It was just like, hey,
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Speaker 1: don't fuck with gay people, they're people like everyone else,
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Speaker 1: and you know, make drugs legal and all the you
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Speaker 1: know that sort of thing. But it has just become
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Speaker 1: such a right wing identity. It's it's just morphed into
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Speaker 1: this very right wing defund you know, everything that's good
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Speaker 1: and you know, beef up police state and all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I do remember Ron Paul being one of those
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Speaker 2: alternative candidates that people on the left seem to swing
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Speaker 2: toward more than anything. Absolutely, it's almost like a leftist
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Speaker 2: Trump in that he's right like he he was definitely
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Speaker 2: sort of an outsider, but not really. He'd been a
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Speaker 2: politician for a long time, right. Also you dig into
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Speaker 2: his past and.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, yeah, no, he's not. I don't think
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Speaker 1: on the whole his his impact of politics was positive,
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Speaker 1: but you know, yeah, like I said, I when I
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Speaker 1: was like in my late twenties, he was the kind
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Speaker 1: of guy who would go on the Daily Show and
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Speaker 1: he would be, you know, more reasonable than your average
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Speaker 1: Republican and so you know, liberals would just be like, hey, yeah,
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Speaker 1: he's one of the good ones. This is great, but yeah,
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Speaker 1: they don't really interrogate his beliefs.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what she did to get in trouble, right,
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Speaker 2: she was on the Ron Paul train a little too early.
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Speaker 2: So they next they get into the Department of Homeland
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Speaker 2: Security and these things called fusion centers, Yeah, which I said,
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Speaker 2: this is real.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not something that I a term that I
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Speaker 1: had ever really heard about before, but I do understand
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Speaker 1: the idea, the you know, high minded idea behind it.
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Speaker 2: Basically, fusion send are these agencies that are scattered throughout
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Speaker 2: the country. By the time of this episode, they had
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Speaker 2: like seventy something in the country and I looked it up.
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Speaker 2: There's still a thing. Yeah, there's still there's articles out
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Speaker 2: there debating their effectiveness. But basically what they are is
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Speaker 2: these agencies where all of the intelligence that like state
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Speaker 2: and local and federal authorities gather pertaining to that particular area.
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Speaker 2: It's all funneled through here and they act accordingly. Which, yeah,
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Speaker 2: it's scandalous, but it's also what the CIA was supposed
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Speaker 2: to be. Like, it's exactly what the CIA was supposed
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Speaker 2: to be. It was just a clearing house for all
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Speaker 2: the information gathered. I still think the more scandalous part
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Speaker 2: is that all the information is being gathered and not
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Speaker 2: so much that it's being sent to these fucking strip
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Speaker 2: mall government rights.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like it just seems like a pretty
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Speaker 1: natural byproduct of homeland security. Like the whole you know,
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Speaker 1: the whole idea of homeland security is condensing all of
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Speaker 1: these disparate intelligence agencies into one thing, which is scary
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Speaker 1: on its own, and this just seems like kind of
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Speaker 1: a natural extension of this. You would need branches around
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Speaker 1: the country. Not that I think that this is good,
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Speaker 1: but I understand the logic behind it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of that in this episode. Yes
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Speaker 2: it's not good, but it's also dice we kind of
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Speaker 2: have to roll as a.
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Speaker 1: Country sometimes, I mean to an extent. I mean I
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Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know necessarily that we have to
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Speaker 1: roll these kind of dice, but like it's more like
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Speaker 1: I just understand why they like they took a bad
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Speaker 1: idea and they ran with it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of this country post World War too. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: taking a bad idea and running.
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Speaker 1: Right exactly and then amplified by a thousand after nine
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Speaker 1: to eleven.
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Speaker 2: So it's time for a team meeting. They're here to
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Speaker 2: talk about these fusion centers, and it seems like the
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Speaker 2: prevailed take is that they're angry because they thought this
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Speaker 2: would be a thing that was meant to monitor terrorists, right,
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Speaker 2: but instead it's monitoring American citizens. And I have two
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Speaker 2: problems with that. There aren't enough terrorists in the country
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Speaker 2: to justify seventy two fusion centers. And if you think
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Speaker 2: they are, you're a naive idiot.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And unfortunately, there are I think enough people in
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Speaker 1: this country who do believe something like that. Terrorism fear
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Speaker 1: is still hugely prevalent.
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Speaker 2: What there are enough of are Muslims.
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Speaker 1: Exactly and immigrants, right.
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Speaker 2: And also that idea that, oh, well they're monitoring American citizens,
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Speaker 2: American citizens can be terrorists, Like that's.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely well, and they this is something that is
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Speaker 1: going to come up again and again during this episode.
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Speaker 1: But like the two examples that they keep coming to
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Speaker 1: of groups that would you know, innocent American activism, groups
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Speaker 1: that would be targeted by this system are pro gun
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Speaker 1: and pro life people. Those are the two specific ideologies
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Speaker 1: that are called out as in danger of being monitored,
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Speaker 1: when first of all, we know for a fact that
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Speaker 1: this is not exclusively but majority targeted at anarchists and
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Speaker 1: left wing protesters, right and also abortion denied, like pro
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Speaker 1: life people bomb clinics again, and pro gun people are
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Speaker 1: violent as well. Like there's just like, you know, at
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Speaker 1: a certain point, you gotta monitor some of those people.
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Speaker 1: Not that you know, I don't know, maybe the government
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to, but there's reason there. They they blow
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Speaker 1: things up and then that's bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there's always going to have to be
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Speaker 2: some degree of monitoring in law enforcement. Like we've all
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Speaker 2: seen the wire, that's all. It's called the wire for
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Speaker 2: a reason, right, It's because they were monitoring drug dealers
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Speaker 2: in Baltimore and that's how they they brought them down,
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Speaker 2: and drugs ended in Baltimore forever after.
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Speaker 1: That exactly, and everything was great.
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Speaker 2: But I mean, I do I do get the concern
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Speaker 2: over this obviously. Also. Yeah, So the next person he
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Speaker 2: interviews is Mike Jerman, a former FBI agent who used
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Speaker 2: to prevent terrorism. It's like, yeah, you did, for sure,
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Speaker 2: Sure you did. He looks like a guy who could
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Speaker 2: just meld into terrorism circles.
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Speaker 1: With him, Oh for sure. Oh yeah, go on, you're
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Speaker 1: thinking he's going undercover. I get it. I mean he
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Speaker 1: just has that kind of swarthy look.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's got that natural, smooth charm exactly. And he
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Speaker 2: says our intelligence agencies have no oversight and that they
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Speaker 2: sometimes collect information that isn't even related to crime. I'm shocked.
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Speaker 2: I'm shocked to hear this.
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Speaker 1: This is similar to a previous episode where so much
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Speaker 1: of this is just we know now that this is
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Speaker 1: true and it's not a hypothetical, and it's not even
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Speaker 1: really directed. It seems like they're collecting data on everybody.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean, now we're to the point where
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Speaker 2: we're giving it away, and then there's that even have
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Speaker 2: to We did an episode of Unpopular Opinion about phone
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Speaker 2: location data, and the FBI can just go buy that,
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Speaker 2: like they don't have to. They do have to get
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Speaker 2: a warrant if they want to get it directly from
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Speaker 2: your phone carrier, right, but they can also just go
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Speaker 2: out on the fucking public market and buy it because
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Speaker 2: the government didn't tell them they couldn't and so yeah,
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Speaker 2: this like none of it's surprising, but it is a
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Speaker 2: thing we probably could have stood to be a little
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Speaker 2: more angry about. When absolutely, but that hats all the
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Speaker 2: way back to the Patriot.
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Speaker 1: Act exactly, and people were angry about it, you know
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Speaker 1: again as a as a young teenager, it was something
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Speaker 1: that I was super concerned about, and no one cared
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Speaker 1: until it started to affect everyone except for, you know,
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Speaker 1: other than the Muslims.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if anyone has read the entire Patriot Act.
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Speaker 1: It's so god, it's so dense, and it's like, isn't
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Speaker 1: it Like it's so long. I don't even know the
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Speaker 1: exact page number, but I think it's huge. Oh it's
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Speaker 1: three hundred and forty two pages long. That is not
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Speaker 1: as long as I thought it was.
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Speaker 2: Is that abridged?
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Speaker 1: Because it might be a yeah, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 1: I had heard very vastly larger numbers.
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Speaker 2: But they're an audiobook, And does Dick Cheney narrate it?
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm wrong if so, but yeah, I would listen
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Speaker 2: to that.
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Speaker 1: Oh that never mind. Fucking Google sucks. Fucking Google, fucking
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Speaker 1: Google sucks. It was it gave me a result because
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Speaker 1: the article featured the phrase Patriot Act, but it was
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Speaker 1: talking about some whole other fucking bill. I'm pretty sure
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Speaker 1: it's over it thousand pages long. Yeah, it's pretty Long's
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Speaker 1: that was like one of the whole things about when
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Speaker 1: it was being passed is no one was reading the
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Speaker 1: goddamn thing. That's the whole thing. We did so much
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Speaker 1: shit in this country out of pure animal panic and
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Speaker 1: fear like that was what was dominating basically every aspect
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Speaker 1: of our culture for like over a year after that,
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Speaker 1: like years, like so much of our governing was based
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Speaker 1: on this just primal fear.
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Speaker 2: And so Mike says, these fusion centers are meant to
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Speaker 2: grease the skids for martial law in the future. Actually,
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Speaker 2: I think Jesse Venturis uses that phrase right.
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Speaker 1: Jesse Venturia loves to invoke martial law.
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Speaker 2: And my concern still upon hearing that these places exist
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Speaker 2: is I'd be more worried about them being used to
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Speaker 2: round up like DACA recipients.
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Speaker 1: Exactly or something like that exactly.
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Speaker 2: That is not a ship that has.
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Speaker 1: This is the thing. This is my whole take about
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Speaker 1: this episode is that it is about immigration, and they
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Speaker 1: never talk about immigration. It just never comes up. But
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Speaker 1: literally everything that they talk about, or basically everything that
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Speaker 1: they talk about is actually the Obama administration preparing for
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Speaker 1: a massive immigration crisis.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, basically preparing for what Trump.
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Speaker 1: Right well, preparing for what Obama did by the end
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Speaker 1: of his term that Trump then ramped up. That's that's
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Speaker 1: what this is. And they they are everybody that they
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Speaker 1: talk to on this is just is just so you know,
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Speaker 1: they got their blinders on. You know, they are just
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Speaker 1: tunnel vision on how it can affect libertarians and right
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Speaker 1: wing people.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And one of the people Jesse Ventura talks to
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Speaker 2: next is some guy that he just like ambushes a
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Speaker 2: Department of Homeland Security outside a fusion center. And one
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Speaker 2: thing I love is this isn't how the interviews normally go.
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Speaker 2: Normally he's getting denials and ship and this guy is
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Speaker 2: just so casual about Yeah, I mean, we might spy
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Speaker 2: on you, like we'll spy on anyone for anything. And
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Speaker 2: I kind of respect that, Like, like, I like, how
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Speaker 2: honest he was already Yes, yeah, I mean respect might
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Speaker 2: be a strong one.
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Speaker 1: You know, to an extent.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I do. Like when he says we don't
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Speaker 2: watch people, we watch trends. That actually sounds creepy.
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Speaker 1: Sure, that makes it. I mean I don't know that
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Speaker 1: sounds like people. You know, trends don't just appear out
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Speaker 1: of nowhere.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think Jesse Ventura actually says that. He says,
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Speaker 2: we aren't trends people.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in both of these episodes that we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: In these next couple episodes, he does get a few,
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Speaker 1: like really good lines, like his his very simplistic way
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Speaker 1: of interrogating things actually is a fact when tackling these
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Speaker 1: institutions that are, on their face, amoral and disgusting.
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Speaker 2: So now here comes Alex Jones.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is where the episode just starts to nosedive.
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Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I still maintain he's a fucking
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Speaker 2: government plant.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And this is my whole thing about this episode,
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Speaker 1: And and this is the reason why it got pulled
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Speaker 1: is because they got Alex Jones on there. And Alex
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Speaker 1: Jones is doing what he does, which is taking something
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Speaker 1: that is real and tacking a bunch of fake, fucking
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Speaker 1: bullshit onto it that's super extremist and is designed to
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Speaker 1: get mainstream pushback. And then this episode comes out and
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Speaker 1: it gets bold because you know, he's he's pushing a
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Speaker 1: bunch of shit that is dangerous and a lie, but
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Speaker 1: it's covering up all of this immigration stuff.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and the idea he's pushing in this case is
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Speaker 2: that the government is setting up concentration camps to hold
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Speaker 2: average Americans like you and me. Yeah, well, I mean
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Speaker 2: not like you and me, I mean me and Alex
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Speaker 2: Jones and Jesse been sure.
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Speaker 1: Right right exactly. No, I guess I'm safe in this,
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Speaker 1: in this backwards world. And it's and it's just again
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Speaker 1: the freezing as with the team meeting is so it's
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Speaker 1: just such a tell where I can't remember if it's
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Speaker 1: Alex Jones or Jesse Is like, you know, they they're
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Speaker 1: you know, they're not just going to be holding immigrants
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Speaker 1: in these in these places, they're going to have American
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Speaker 1: citizens in there too. As if that's the problem.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of the overall problem with this episode
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Speaker 2: is they're not bothered by what they're being used for.
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Speaker 2: Even at this point, it comes out in this episode
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Speaker 2: what they're being used for, and it's yeah, immigrants.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, I love the scene where they he talks
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Speaker 1: to those people, but well, because there's stuff there, but yeah, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: this shit is wild.
21:08
Speaker 2: They do bring up a couple things that are real.
21:11
Speaker 2: John is REX eighty four, which it's a it's a
21:14
Speaker 2: thing Oliver North somehow brought to life. And it's this
21:18
Speaker 2: directive that came out during the Reagan administration that explains
21:21
Speaker 2: how in the event of some sort of national emergency,
21:25
Speaker 2: if we have to initiate martial law, this is how
21:28
Speaker 2: we'll do it, right, And yeah, that's scary, but you
21:30
Speaker 2: got to expect the government's going to have something like
21:32
Speaker 2: that in place.
21:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like the government's job, you know, in theory,
21:38
Speaker 1: is to make the plans for basically any contingency that
21:42
Speaker 1: we can think of. It's why we have plans for
21:44
Speaker 1: if aliens come to earth, like, you know, we got
21:48
Speaker 1: all sorts of plans.
21:50
Speaker 2: They also bring up the Council of Governors, which yeah,
21:53
Speaker 2: actually doesn't sound that scary to me at all.
21:56
Speaker 1: Oh, it's not scary at all. And there's this whole
21:59
Speaker 1: thing he he he's really hung up on how the
22:03
Speaker 1: Council of Governors is divided up into these ten regions
22:07
Speaker 1: and he he does this very funny overlay of that
22:12
Speaker 1: with I think it was the FEMA map that showed
22:15
Speaker 1: the regions where they where FEMA was focusing on the digitis,
22:21
Speaker 1: and he overlays them like this is some sort of
22:24
Speaker 1: secret code that he's unlocked, when in reality, it's just like, well,
22:29
Speaker 1: that's the agree upon regional divisions, Like that's where the
22:35
Speaker 1: code of Governors, that not council of Governors comes from.
22:38
Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, I mean we probably would need some level
22:42
Speaker 2: of coordination depending on the emergency, Like if the power
22:46
Speaker 2: grid goes down absolutely all around the country, you're gonna
22:49
Speaker 2: you're gonna appreciate that there's some coordination.
22:53
Speaker 1: Look, man, I I am so skeptical of of anything
22:58
Speaker 1: that the government does. And I'm sure that there are
23:00
Speaker 1: nefarious purposes for a Council of Governors. I'm sure they
23:05
Speaker 1: aren't great you know, things happening there. But also, like
23:10
Speaker 1: in a even in a good government that is ethical
23:14
Speaker 1: and functions normally and properly and you know, is actually
23:18
Speaker 1: working for the people, we would need something like this
23:22
Speaker 1: because we're fucking huge and so like we would need,
23:27
Speaker 1: you know, a group of people who are familiar with
23:29
Speaker 1: their own specific area to meet up and be able
23:33
Speaker 1: to coordinate.
23:34
Speaker 2: Yeah, and to be like we're so divided as a
23:38
Speaker 2: country and the way this thing works, it's I think
23:41
Speaker 2: five Republicans and five Democrats. Yeah, so it's it's even
23:46
Speaker 2: in that way, like right, it just seems like, yeah,
23:49
Speaker 2: you're right, there probably are some nefarious purposes, but also
23:53
Speaker 2: what do we do again? Yeah, there's a dice, we
23:55
Speaker 2: got a roll.
23:56
Speaker 1: How else are you going to coordinate between fifty states
23:59
Speaker 1: across like three thousand miles wide? Like it's just insane
24:04
Speaker 1: and honestly, you know, and this is definitely something that's
24:07
Speaker 1: come up on the show that that map looks like
24:11
Speaker 1: a pretty good way to just divide us up into
24:13
Speaker 1: multiple countries. I think that seems pretty recent.
24:16
Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind just doing that.
24:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, it might be good. I've always that has always
24:22
Speaker 1: been my solution to the complete breakdown of our government
24:27
Speaker 1: and society is we need to be central Europe. Like
24:31
Speaker 1: that's what we need to be, and you know, maybe
24:33
Speaker 1: have a European Union type thing where we're working together.
24:37
Speaker 1: But like, we can't keep going like this.
24:40
Speaker 2: No, So next they send Dayan the Skeptic out into
24:44
Speaker 2: the streets.
24:44
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, real quick, real quick, did they like, like
24:49
Speaker 1: kill Alex the Skeptic?
24:51
Speaker 2: I think so, because he's only in what the first episode, Yes.
24:54
Speaker 1: Exactly, he's in the first episode and then is not
24:57
Speaker 1: in has not been in any of the other episodes
25:00
Speaker 1: so far, and he's been replaced by this Dan guy,
25:04
Speaker 1: who is somehow even worse.
25:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's way worse. I miss Alex.
25:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna yell the fuck out of Dan on
25:11
Speaker 1: the Wall Street episode because that guy sucks ass.
25:16
Speaker 2: He for some reason hops in his car to conduct
25:18
Speaker 2: a video interview with a prison camp activist named William Lewis.
25:25
Speaker 1: Like, I definitely need some more information on what that means.
25:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, he talks about HR six forty five, which is
25:33
Speaker 2: indeed a bill that passed that called for building these
25:36
Speaker 2: detention facilities all around the country. Right, there was also
25:40
Speaker 2: an executive order in like twenty eighteen that called for
25:43
Speaker 2: building them.
25:43
Speaker 1: But they they're not they're not detention centers. The FEMA
25:48
Speaker 1: things is the thing that's not how they're described, and
25:51
Speaker 1: that's not their stated purpose.
25:54
Speaker 2: No, I mean, it depends on which ones you're talking about.
25:57
Speaker 2: The one they visits called a residential facility.
26:00
Speaker 1: But here's the thing, and again, this is the whole
26:05
Speaker 1: smoke screen of this episode, and it's given away by
26:10
Speaker 1: one of the people that they talk to at that facility,
26:14
Speaker 1: which is that is not a FEMA facility, that is
26:19
Speaker 1: an ICE facility. They mentioned talking to ICE, like the
26:23
Speaker 1: lady is like, why don't we redirect you to our
26:25
Speaker 1: ICE uh, you know, local ICE headquarters and you can,
26:30
Speaker 1: and like that's the giveaway it is this is not
26:33
Speaker 1: related to the FEMA camps.
26:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, the the FEMA camps. They don't ever really show
26:39
Speaker 2: no or they're like it's either that or they're just
26:42
Speaker 2: conflating these two things, right, because these are definitely immigrant immigrant.
26:46
Speaker 1: Absolutely, that's yeah, that is what they are at, that's
26:49
Speaker 1: what they visit. But that was what really tipped me
26:52
Speaker 1: off to like the whole smoke screen of this is, yeah,
26:55
Speaker 1: they're just conflating the real, very real ICE migration detention
27:01
Speaker 1: centers with the FEMA camps that are outlined in the bill.
27:06
Speaker 1: And another giveaway is that the whole reason they're in
27:10
Speaker 1: the bill is so they can be built in the future,
27:14
Speaker 1: whereas they visit a facility that is built and running,
27:19
Speaker 1: so it doesn't really apply.
27:22
Speaker 2: Now here's a scene I really hated. This guy that
27:25
Speaker 2: he's doing this interview with in the car directs him
27:29
Speaker 2: to one of these facilities, and Dan the skeptic gets
27:34
Speaker 2: to this facility and he pulls up to this fenced
27:37
Speaker 2: entrance that it looks like an entrance, and you do
27:41
Speaker 2: see some like bunker looking sort of things down in
27:44
Speaker 2: this sort of valley area. And it's in Los Angeles, right,
27:49
Speaker 2: And then like cops show up and Dan's like, oh,
27:52
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get out of here. And here's the thing.
27:55
Speaker 2: I don't know if maybe the person editing this show
27:58
Speaker 2: just does like Jesse Ventura and his team, but they
28:03
Speaker 2: flash a sign on the screen as Dan is backing up,
28:07
Speaker 2: and here's what that sign says. Access to Van Norman
28:11
Speaker 2: Reservoir complex must be made through security gates located on
28:15
Speaker 2: Rinaldi Street and suppulvet A Boulevard. So of all the
28:18
Speaker 2: times to not just go up to security and be like, hey,
28:21
Speaker 2: what is this, Yeah, this is the time they decide
28:24
Speaker 2: not to do that when there's a perfectly helpful sign
28:28
Speaker 2: telling you that that's where you should go. Of course
28:30
Speaker 2: they're suspicious if you look into it. This is the
28:34
Speaker 2: reservoir for LA's water. Yeah, Like it's how they get
28:39
Speaker 2: water to La and keep it clean.
28:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, like LA. For those who maybe don't know is
28:45
Speaker 1: in a desert and having a fresh source of water
28:49
Speaker 1: is vital to keeping everyone in La alive.
28:55
Speaker 2: I don't get why you don't do your usual interview things.
28:59
Speaker 1: Well, it's this fucking coward Dan, who I fucking hate.
29:06
Speaker 2: I hate Dan, Yeah, I.
29:07
Speaker 1: Really don't like him. He he is somehow worse in
29:12
Speaker 1: a least believable less believable skeptic than Alex. It's insane.
29:17
Speaker 2: Speaking of Alex, now he and Jesse are going to
29:20
Speaker 2: check out an American concentration camp.
29:23
Speaker 1: Did Alex the skeptic like animorph into Alex Jones?
29:27
Speaker 2: Oh no, that was Bill Hicks. But that is a
29:30
Speaker 2: compelling thing.
29:31
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, Bill, that's weird.
29:35
Speaker 2: There are some there are some weird there's some weirdness
29:38
Speaker 2: between Alex Jones and Bill Hicks.
29:40
Speaker 1: But but Alex Jones doesn't have the sense of empathy
29:44
Speaker 1: of Bill Hicks.
29:45
Speaker 2: Maybe Bill Hicks lost his when he died.
29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe.
29:48
Speaker 2: Yeah. So when they say they're going to check out
29:53
Speaker 2: an American concentration camp, what they're really checking out is
29:56
Speaker 2: the t Don Huddo Residential Center. And we were using
30:01
Speaker 2: it then for the same thing we're using it for now.
30:03
Speaker 2: It is a ICE detention center yep. And Alex Jones
30:07
Speaker 2: covers this part by just like casually throwing out that, well, ya, yeah,
30:13
Speaker 2: they'll use it for immigrants first and then Americans exactly next.
30:18
Speaker 1: And again one of the many tells of where this
30:22
Speaker 1: episode is misleading you.
30:24
Speaker 2: Right, And here's the thing. I can absolutely see a
30:28
Speaker 2: scenario where Americans get up in arms enough that the
30:32
Speaker 2: government goes out and has to arrest people in Mass.
30:35
Speaker 1: I have a list here of every ICE detention center
30:39
Speaker 1: and then Huddo is there and it is currently in use.
30:43
Speaker 1: It is a residence.
30:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, I looked it up.
30:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's just what this is.
30:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just that the more immediate threat from
30:52
Speaker 2: these places is that we're going to round up immigrants
30:55
Speaker 2: and deport them in mass.
30:57
Speaker 1: And the thing about it, you know, it's not that
31:01
Speaker 1: we don't round up protesters and you know, persecute protesters,
31:06
Speaker 1: almost all of them left wing and anarchists, but we
31:09
Speaker 1: just put them in prison. We don't or kill them.
31:11
Speaker 1: We actually don't need detention centers for that. Like that's
31:14
Speaker 1: the thing.
31:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's again one of the big problems with
31:19
Speaker 2: this is it's a question that comes up with governments
31:21
Speaker 2: all the time as well, what do you mean when
31:23
Speaker 2: you're talking about terrorists, And in the case of this show,
31:27
Speaker 2: I want to know what Jesse Ventura and team mean
31:30
Speaker 2: yeah when they're talking about terrorists, because I kind of
31:32
Speaker 2: feel like, yeah, left wing protesters and anarchists would be
31:36
Speaker 2: considered terrorists exactly the Jesse Ventura regime, and not.
31:41
Speaker 1: Bomb throwing pro life advocates, who again are the only
31:47
Speaker 1: one of the only two groups that are specifically brought
31:50
Speaker 1: up as innocent groups that are in danger of being
31:54
Speaker 1: rounded up by this nefarious program. Yeah, it's now this
31:59
Speaker 1: is the first time that this show has been openly
32:02
Speaker 1: right wing. That is what my major problem with this episode.
32:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Obama was in office, so.
32:09
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, but he's been off the whole show.
32:11
Speaker 2: Like, oh, yeah, I guess he has. So now we're
32:15
Speaker 2: in the woods and Alex and Jesse. This is the
32:18
Speaker 2: scene we saw in the open where it sucks. They're
32:22
Speaker 2: peeking around the forest there there there's this scene where
32:25
Speaker 2: they just both kind of rise up. Yeah, they look
32:28
Speaker 2: all wide eyed and what they're seeing.
32:31
Speaker 1: And they don't really show what they're seeing. He kind
32:34
Speaker 1: of get a glimpse.
32:36
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's it's a it's like a scene out
32:39
Speaker 2: of Gone Fishing or something like a Buddy Comedy star
32:43
Speaker 2: and aging dudes.
32:45
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's just Alex Jones. Like, you know,
32:51
Speaker 1: he isn't He's got that entertainment bone in him in
32:55
Speaker 1: addition to his his insane bone. But like he is
33:01
Speaker 1: compelling to watch, at least in this time period now.
33:05
Speaker 2: As a clone made from Bill Hicks DNA.
33:09
Speaker 1: The problem is that he has just grown so large
33:13
Speaker 1: and pink over the years that he is just yeah, yeah,
33:19
Speaker 1: that's why he's he's like mutating and like he has
33:22
Speaker 1: just lost all entertainment value as the years have gone on.
33:25
Speaker 1: But like this is like prime. He's kind of funny
33:29
Speaker 1: to watch, even if he's a lunatic spreading dangerous ideas.
33:33
Speaker 2: I still maintain the most charming Alex Jones has ever been.
33:36
Speaker 2: I saw a early video of him when he just
33:39
Speaker 2: had a public access show. Yeah, and it was Halloween
33:42
Speaker 2: and he was just carving pumpkins and taking calls from
33:45
Speaker 2: uhh wears that Alex Jones.
33:48
Speaker 1: I would watch that. That sounds probably probably that. I
33:52
Speaker 1: don't know if I would do that. I don't want
33:53
Speaker 1: to be in a room with him, but like.
33:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean I would carve pumpkins well, taking
33:57
Speaker 2: questions from people.
33:58
Speaker 1: For sure, we should do that. That would be fun.
34:00
Speaker 2: That would be a lot of fun.
34:02
Speaker 1: But like he you know, he was in the he
34:04
Speaker 1: was also in I mentioned this before, he was in
34:06
Speaker 1: The Scanner Darkly Richard Link Leader's a Scanner Darkly because
34:09
Speaker 1: he was just like a local Austin guy who everybody
34:13
Speaker 1: just kind of knows as a fun kook.
34:16
Speaker 2: That's how the infiltrators always start.
34:18
Speaker 1: And yeah, and this is this has sold me entirely
34:22
Speaker 1: on him being a plant this episode. I was kind
34:25
Speaker 1: of on the fence before.
34:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, because he does show up, like right when they
34:31
Speaker 2: not long after the thing where the woman lets slip that, hey,
34:34
Speaker 2: you should call Ice, right you have questions about what's
34:37
Speaker 2: happening here. Yeah, And then boom, that's when Alex Josh
34:40
Speaker 2: shows up exactly and he takes the It turns out
34:44
Speaker 2: the thing they're traversing the woods to look at they
34:47
Speaker 2: call them coffins. They say, look, there's all these coffins
34:51
Speaker 2: and they don't look like coffins that I've ever seen, No,
34:54
Speaker 2: And it turns out that what they are is basically
34:58
Speaker 2: grave liners, So you dig the grave, then you put
35:01
Speaker 2: this liner in it, and then you put the coffin
35:04
Speaker 2: in that, right, and it's meant to keep it safe.
35:08
Speaker 2: And they're like, well, well why do they need so many?
35:10
Speaker 2: In this company that makes them? They're called Vantage Products
35:15
Speaker 2: corp Ugh, So Advantage Products Corpse.
35:18
Speaker 1: Every every fucking company that has a name like that
35:21
Speaker 1: is so fucking sinister. The more boring the name, the
35:26
Speaker 1: more sinister it seems.
35:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, And here's the thing, it's not that they aren't sinister,
35:32
Speaker 2: it's just I don't think the conclusion they come to
35:35
Speaker 2: here is correct, right exactly, because what they're arguing first
35:40
Speaker 2: first their question is well why do you need because
35:44
Speaker 2: the company is like, well, we did we make them
35:46
Speaker 2: for when we need to send them out? What do
35:48
Speaker 2: you yes, what do you want? You think we custom
35:50
Speaker 2: make these things? We have a fucking field where we
35:53
Speaker 2: keep them exactly, And they're like, well, why would you
35:57
Speaker 2: need that many all at once? And it's like, man,
35:59
Speaker 2: seven thousand some people die in the United States every day,
36:03
Speaker 2: like they're gonna need to have them on hand getting
36:07
Speaker 2: buried all the time.
36:08
Speaker 1: Exactly, Like where do you think this is how it's
36:13
Speaker 1: done with basically any manufacturing industry. It's not like they
36:16
Speaker 1: make each one as they sell it. It doesn't make
36:19
Speaker 1: any sense.
36:20
Speaker 2: And yeah, I like that. At the end of the
36:22
Speaker 2: episode they mentioned that this company came and hauled all
36:25
Speaker 2: these things away, and it's like, yeah, I wonder why.
36:28
Speaker 2: Probably because Jesse Venture and Alex Jones showed up and
36:32
Speaker 2: now that's gonna be on TV and everyone else is
36:34
Speaker 2: gonna come Jesus. And here's the thing. It's not that
36:37
Speaker 2: they're not sinister, no, because here's what they do. They
36:41
Speaker 2: they draw this path from Vantage Corp. To a company
36:46
Speaker 2: called Hercules Incorporated. Vantage Corp used to be a research
36:51
Speaker 2: and development wing of Hercules Incorporated. Hercules Incorporated is a
36:55
Speaker 2: subsidiary of Halliburton. Sure, so the conclusion they're trying to
37:00
Speaker 2: draw here is why is Halliburton buying so many coffins
37:05
Speaker 2: from Vantage Corp? Vantage Products? And here's the thing. If
37:10
Speaker 2: you dig into Hercules Incorporated, one of the things they
37:13
Speaker 2: worked on were rockets, rockets, missiles sometimes even like intercontinental
37:19
Speaker 2: ballistic missiles. And one of the things we know goes
37:23
Speaker 2: into making a rocket is foam, yep, and structural foam.
37:27
Speaker 2: Because they have to be made out of very lightweight products,
37:30
Speaker 2: so they exactly fly. And if you go to I'll
37:33
Speaker 2: link to the there's a Newton Chamber of Commerce page for
37:37
Speaker 2: Vantage Products Corp. There you go, and they say their
37:40
Speaker 2: main contribution to the funeral industry structural foam. Ay, so
37:46
Speaker 2: clearly they're selling coffins to hallbur It's like, no, they.
37:49
Speaker 1: Help Haliburton make fucking rockets, Yeah, which is not good.
37:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I don't I don't doubt that this is
37:55
Speaker 2: a government owned place that's like, also, we should make
37:58
Speaker 2: some funeral shit to cover.
38:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, it's a separately bad thing. But again, they're
38:04
Speaker 1: just you know, and Alex Jones is just ready to
38:07
Speaker 1: totally leap on the most extreme interpretation of these you
38:12
Speaker 1: know events.
38:14
Speaker 2: And so is Jesse venture And well.
38:16
Speaker 1: Jesse Ventura is, as I've mentioned on basically every episode
38:20
Speaker 1: of this the most credulous person who has ever lived
38:24
Speaker 1: in history, and will literally believe anything that you tell
38:28
Speaker 1: him as long as you say it, Like, did you
38:31
Speaker 1: know that frogs actually eat brains? It's true.
38:36
Speaker 2: They're making the frogs gay.
38:38
Speaker 1: They're making the frogs gay, and the gay frogs eat brains.
38:43
Speaker 2: Yeap. So now we're back to the detention centers. And
38:45
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm like, are they going to bury
38:47
Speaker 2: us all or kill or arrest us all? Because if
38:50
Speaker 2: they're just going to throw everyone in detention centers, what
38:53
Speaker 2: are the coffins for.
38:54
Speaker 1: Well, this should tie into something that we haven't really
38:59
Speaker 1: mentioned about this whole thing, which is every time they
39:04
Speaker 1: mentioned the word concentration camp or allude to it, they
39:09
Speaker 1: show black and white footage of Nazi Germany and concentration camps.
39:14
Speaker 1: And I think that's literally what they are thinking. It's
39:19
Speaker 1: like they needed the concentration camp where they're going to
39:23
Speaker 1: work us to death.
39:24
Speaker 2: Oh that makes sense.
39:26
Speaker 1: Where well, in fact, weirdly enough compared to other prisons,
39:30
Speaker 1: at least from what I know, they put immigrants in
39:33
Speaker 1: detention centers and you know, deprive them of most of
39:38
Speaker 1: their needs and don't make them work. Yeah, yeah, like
39:42
Speaker 1: it's very Actually it must be a pr thing that
39:46
Speaker 1: they don't make them work, right, It.
39:48
Speaker 2: Could be like, actually, there was a scandal that came
39:51
Speaker 2: out at one point about the work that was being
39:54
Speaker 2: offered to immigrants and detention centers.
39:57
Speaker 1: Oh, well, you know, maybe they are making them work.
40:00
Speaker 1: I haven't done enough research on that.
40:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were getting paid I think it was a
40:04
Speaker 2: dollar an hour, and if they chose not to work,
40:08
Speaker 2: they were like deprived of basic needs. But you don't worry, Olivia.
40:14
Speaker 2: The immigrants are being harshly treated right in these facilities.
40:18
Speaker 1: But not work to death does not work.
40:21
Speaker 2: They have the option to be worked to death or not,
40:25
Speaker 2: but choose not to, they'll be something else to death.
40:28
Speaker 1: And these in these places, they aren't prisons, because prisoners
40:32
Speaker 1: they make what twenty five cents to fifty cents an hour,
40:36
Speaker 1: Like you're doubling that baby, that's you know, that's chump
40:40
Speaker 1: change compared to your bucket hour.
40:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're going to be in the illuminati soon with
40:45
Speaker 2: that much cash. And so they they do touch on
40:48
Speaker 2: something that's kind of timely, but also something that sort
40:52
Speaker 2: of undoes the entire premise here, which is, well, what
40:55
Speaker 2: they're planning is they're going to kick off a pandemic
40:58
Speaker 2: and they're going to use these detention centers. That's how
41:02
Speaker 2: they're going to justify rounding people up and putting them
41:04
Speaker 2: in these detention centers. And for one, my question is
41:07
Speaker 2: what would what good would that do well? Pandemic? First
41:11
Speaker 2: of all, here's my this.
41:14
Speaker 1: This part was also extremely infuriating. You know, their big
41:18
Speaker 1: evidence for this is a FEMA document that outlines how
41:25
Speaker 1: they would respond to a pandemic, and that's good to
41:30
Speaker 1: do it right. And as far as what they would need,
41:34
Speaker 1: you know, large you know, makeshift facilities for or camps
41:38
Speaker 1: housing people who they are studying, you know, who have
41:43
Speaker 1: the illness or you know, I don't know, quarantining people,
41:47
Speaker 1: having facility lab facilities out and able to study things like.
41:52
Speaker 1: There are many ways that you would need these kinds
41:56
Speaker 1: of facilities.
41:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, And and one of the ways this episode has
42:00
Speaker 2: aged well in that regard is we are in the
42:02
Speaker 2: middle of a pandemic that has taken uh. I think
42:06
Speaker 2: we're up to six hundred thousand plus lives in the
42:09
Speaker 2: United States.
42:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, I kind of lost track after half a million.
42:13
Speaker 2: And it doesn't feel like we're propelling toward martial law
42:16
Speaker 2: right now. I guess if you're on the right and
42:18
Speaker 2: you see having to wear a mask as the ultimate
42:22
Speaker 2: and government oppression, that's sure.
42:24
Speaker 1: And that is the whole thing about Alex Jones and
42:27
Speaker 1: right wing conspiracies is the smallest, most innocent inconvenience is
42:33
Speaker 1: a massive conspiracy to steal their freedom. But also we
42:37
Speaker 1: did almost see martial law, but it was in response
42:40
Speaker 1: to left wing protests against police brutality throughout the country
42:46
Speaker 1: last year that inspired martial law and you know, curfews
42:51
Speaker 1: and shit to curb people protesting the illegal murder of
42:57
Speaker 1: civilians by the govern basically, yeah, which is exactly what
43:02
Speaker 1: they're worried about in this but they that's not a
43:06
Speaker 1: thing that they care about, and in fact, Alex Jones
43:08
Speaker 1: is on the record is being totally in favor of
43:11
Speaker 1: every resistance to left wing protests.
43:15
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Yeah, it's it's the kind of thing that,
43:19
Speaker 2: depending on what side you're on, if what they're describing
43:22
Speaker 2: actually happens, you're gonna be like ha haaaa. Finally, like,
43:26
Speaker 2: if they round up right wingers and like the type
43:30
Speaker 2: of people who are prone to storm in the capitol,
43:33
Speaker 2: a lot of people on the left are going to
43:34
Speaker 2: be like, good, yeah, what they should do.
43:37
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting because I don't disagree with you, But
43:42
Speaker 1: also there is an imbalance in the amount of violence perpetrated.
43:50
Speaker 1: You know, that's not a perfectly balanced scale left and
43:54
Speaker 1: right when it comes to who deserves to be punished,
43:58
Speaker 1: you know, especially because as the left is fighting for
44:01
Speaker 1: good things and the right is a bunch of whiny babies.
44:06
Speaker 1: But like, you know, I don't want the government necessarily
44:10
Speaker 1: rounding up anybody. I think that's bad and would lead
44:15
Speaker 1: to me dying probably, and so I don't like that.
44:20
Speaker 1: But like, you know, some people just deserve to be
44:24
Speaker 1: uh punished, not jail, because jail sucks, but like if
44:28
Speaker 1: you're a violent, fucking right wing militant, then you know
44:35
Speaker 1: you should have some stuff come in your way.
44:37
Speaker 2: Yeah.
44:37
Speaker 1: Anyways, so where were we in the episode.
44:42
Speaker 2: Well, now Jesse's it's time to storm Conress.
44:45
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's storming the Capitol.
44:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's going to storm the Capitol and kick some
44:49
Speaker 2: congressional aid ass. Uh. First person he tries is Jim
44:54
Speaker 2: Garlock of Pennsylvania, but both times Jim hears that Jesse
44:58
Speaker 2: wants to talk about FEMA concentrate camps and is like, no,
45:01
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take off.
45:02
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no way that this comes out good for me.
45:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is smoking gun proof that FEMA concentration camps exist.
45:09
Speaker 1: Right exactly, and not smoking gun proof that Jesse Ventura
45:13
Speaker 1: is like poison to someone's public image.
45:16
Speaker 2: But then the co sponsor of the Bill. Steve Cohen
45:20
Speaker 2: is fine talking to Jesse, and I'm like, you should
45:22
Speaker 2: have just started there. That seems like a better get.
45:24
Speaker 2: In terms of an interview regarding this bill, What did
45:27
Speaker 2: we think about Steve Cohen? I mean, I it seemed
45:31
Speaker 2: like he was being a little shady, But again, it's
45:34
Speaker 2: very possible that it's because, well, I don't want people
45:36
Speaker 2: to know we're going to start rounding up immigrants.
45:38
Speaker 1: Well, yes, that is the thing. Again, this is my
45:42
Speaker 1: whole thesis on this episode is everything that they talk
45:46
Speaker 1: about is actually about immigrants, and everybody that they talk
45:49
Speaker 1: to who's involved with this thing is kind of relieved
45:53
Speaker 1: that they're not that they are just talking about the
45:56
Speaker 1: fake stuff. And when it like, I don't like I
46:00
Speaker 1: did not get a good vibe off of Steve Cohen,
46:03
Speaker 1: but I also got like, I don't disbelieve him when
46:09
Speaker 1: he says the FEMA camps in the bill don't exist,
46:13
Speaker 1: and I believe his confusion over what Bill Jesse was
46:18
Speaker 1: talking about is valid because literally all Jesse says is like,
46:23
Speaker 1: do you agree with what's said in the bill? I
46:26
Speaker 1: don't know. I need to know what you think about
46:28
Speaker 1: the bill.
46:29
Speaker 2: He never specifies he doesn't specify the bill. And then
46:33
Speaker 2: he also talks about a real facility that he went
46:37
Speaker 2: to visit had the name of, and he's just got
46:39
Speaker 2: this innate ability to describe something that's real but make
46:44
Speaker 2: it sound like the most insane bullshit you've ever heard. Yes,
46:48
Speaker 2: and the way he describes the detention center they saw,
46:51
Speaker 2: it's insane, and like it makes no sense, Like, just
46:55
Speaker 2: give him the name. I say, here's the name of
46:57
Speaker 2: the place we went to. Here's the bill exactly.
46:59
Speaker 1: He ever says the name. That's the thing. And so
47:03
Speaker 1: the whole time that Jesse is like trying to grill
47:05
Speaker 1: him on this facility that he visited, which again is
47:10
Speaker 1: not a facility that was enacted by this bill, because
47:15
Speaker 1: nothing this bill is like brand new in this when
47:18
Speaker 1: this thing started, when this episode aired. All he says
47:23
Speaker 1: is we went to a facility in Texas and they
47:26
Speaker 1: had it was a residential facility and it was surrounded
47:30
Speaker 1: by barbed wire. And the guy is like, I don't
47:33
Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. This this doesn't I don't
47:37
Speaker 1: know this facility because you haven't given me any information
47:41
Speaker 1: other than a basic description of its premises. It's just
47:45
Speaker 1: really strange.
47:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, he makes it sound like they found some unmarked
47:50
Speaker 2: building in the middle of the desert. Exactly, Dude, it's
47:53
Speaker 2: got I googled it, it's got an address, it's got
47:56
Speaker 2: a website. You can fucking email them.
47:58
Speaker 1: But but you know, I really do feel like it's
48:01
Speaker 1: either a Jesse could not remember the name of the facility,
48:05
Speaker 1: which seems like it could be likely.
48:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, t don Huddo Residential Center. I was gonna say
48:13
Speaker 2: the brain at all.
48:13
Speaker 1: I did not say it because I could not remember
48:16
Speaker 1: the name of it. But also, uh, you know, he
48:20
Speaker 1: might just have known that that would kind of backfire
48:23
Speaker 1: on him if he actually specifically named the building. But
48:27
Speaker 1: not naming it also backfired because it made him look
48:30
Speaker 1: like a fucking idiot. Yeah.
48:32
Speaker 2: I would have liked if he named it, because then
48:34
Speaker 2: Steve Cohen might have been like, oh, you're talking about
48:36
Speaker 2: the immigrant place. Huh yeah, and then just shuts down
48:39
Speaker 2: the inner exactly.
48:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, you're talking. Oh you mean the ice facility.
48:43
Speaker 1: I mean, uh, but like yeah, and I understand it.
48:47
Speaker 1: Steve Cohen is the guy who basically pushed for this
48:51
Speaker 1: episode to be pulled after it aired. It only airs once,
48:55
Speaker 1: and uh, I get it. Because Jesse is again spreading
49:02
Speaker 1: a lot of dangerous misinformation that is inaccurate as a
49:07
Speaker 1: smoke screen for the real thing that is actually happening.
49:11
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's misdirecting people.
49:14
Speaker 1: And I don't think Jesse's doing it on purpose, because
49:16
Speaker 1: again I think, Jesse, you could just get Jesse Ventura
49:19
Speaker 1: to say whatever you want with very little provocation. I
49:24
Speaker 1: think it would be easy.
49:25
Speaker 2: I do like that. In response to the criticism behind
49:30
Speaker 2: this misty schedule, a Turner spokesperson Yeah described conspiracy theory
49:37
Speaker 2: as quote, an entertainment program that appears on an entertainment network. Yeah,
49:42
Speaker 2: And I don't know if I buy that excuse, because
49:47
Speaker 2: you can't go all right, this company Yan Guard, they're
49:50
Speaker 2: making coffins that they're selling to Halliburn. Right, That is
49:53
Speaker 2: a pretty damaging accusation. Yeah, that's up there with the
49:58
Speaker 2: MyPillow guy being like, hey, dem Onion stealing our democracy.
50:02
Speaker 1: Well and like and implying that, I mean, just all
50:05
Speaker 1: of the Holocaust stuff is so tasteless, Like I'm not
50:09
Speaker 1: saying that there are no Holocaust comparisons to be made
50:12
Speaker 1: with our modern immigration system. But he's not talking about
50:18
Speaker 1: our immigration system. He's talking about this fantasy of Americans
50:24
Speaker 1: being rounded up, like it's not like it's ever happened,
50:27
Speaker 1: but it's happened very specifically, and you know, he's just
50:31
Speaker 1: making these very broadsided, you know, shots at things.
50:35
Speaker 2: And when we talk about the possibility of a holocaust
50:39
Speaker 2: involving immigrants, the whole angle of this show is, well,
50:44
Speaker 2: they're spying on the people who are most likely to
50:47
Speaker 2: lead to a holocaust of immigrants, right, because that's like,
50:52
Speaker 2: that's that's Trump supporters, that's the right right now. Exactly,
50:56
Speaker 2: if anything like that is going to happen, it's gonna
50:59
Speaker 2: come from that side.
51:00
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna come from Alex Jones.
51:03
Speaker 2: I know some segment of the white population would love
51:07
Speaker 2: to believe that it's white people who are going to
51:09
Speaker 2: be genocided. But it's like, man, what what when do
51:13
Speaker 2: you think that switch happened in the American government?
51:15
Speaker 1: Right?
51:16
Speaker 2: Like, get the fuck out exactly?
51:18
Speaker 1: Ron, Well, yeah, and of course Alex Jones is also
51:22
Speaker 1: a proponent of the white genocide theory.
51:24
Speaker 2: And meanwhile, if this turned into a immigrant genocide, those
51:29
Speaker 2: motherfuckers wouldn't care. They know, Yes, finally, we're making America
51:32
Speaker 2: America again.
51:33
Speaker 1: Right, This is the whole thing. This is what it
51:36
Speaker 1: was so fucking infuriating about this episode is they are
51:41
Speaker 1: talking about like especially that ice facility. Part was just
51:46
Speaker 1: driving me baddy because they were give those people were
51:50
Speaker 1: giving them the information. They were not talking about things.
51:54
Speaker 1: They were like, no comment, no comment, no comment. But
51:56
Speaker 1: that lady said, go talk to fucking Ice. And yes, Ventura,
52:01
Speaker 1: the guy who wanted to storm Plumb Island didn't go
52:04
Speaker 1: and fucking storm the local Ice headquarters.
52:07
Speaker 2: Nope.
52:08
Speaker 1: That that represents a massive ideological blind spot on his
52:13
Speaker 1: part and honestly makes me not want to smoke weed
52:16
Speaker 1: with him anymore.
52:17
Speaker 2: The same. Yeah, like he doesn't really even question it
52:20
Speaker 2: when she says go talk to Ice. No, he's it's
52:23
Speaker 2: it's more like, well, okay, well if it's Ice, then
52:25
Speaker 2: it's fine.
52:26
Speaker 1: And Ice was not as well known as of a
52:30
Speaker 1: organization than even you know, it's a you know, so
52:34
Speaker 1: many people don't realize how fucking new Ice is. It
52:38
Speaker 1: was created after nine to eleven, Like, it's not an
52:42
Speaker 1: institution of our of our country, you know that is
52:46
Speaker 1: vital to its operation. We can get rid of it
52:49
Speaker 1: today and nothing about our lives would change. Fuck Ice
52:53
Speaker 1: I hate them.
52:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Ice can go away. So that's our episode.
52:57
Speaker 2: That's that's the episode of Conspiracy the show of Conspiracy
53:01
Speaker 2: Theory with Jesse Ventura. All episodes of Conspiracy the Show
53:05
Speaker 2: are too hot for TV. Yeah, and that's why me
53:07
Speaker 2: and Olivia aren't on TV with this exactly.
53:10
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's just hot enough for a podcast.
53:13
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but this episode of Conspiracy Theory with Jesse
53:17
Speaker 2: Ventura too hot for TV. Nevertheless, we will link to
53:21
Speaker 2: it in the show notes so you can give it
53:22
Speaker 2: a watch, give some some innocent daily Motion user and
53:28
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53:32
Speaker 1: And you know, and and and check out daily Motion.
53:35
Speaker 2: It's got everything, it really does.
53:37
Speaker 1: I don't know how they get away with it.
53:39
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe they're not that big, maybe pretty big.
53:42
Speaker 2: They've been around a long time. I bet people work
53:45
Speaker 2: there and have page Yeah, they've.
53:46
Speaker 1: Been around forever, and I like they've never gone down
53:52
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53:55
Speaker 2: Vimeo too. Vimeover happens to Vimeo, but Vimeo.
53:58
Speaker 1: Has gotten more whereas daily Motion has not. Yeah, anyway,
54:03
Speaker 1: I just downloaded a movie off of daily Motion. It's good,
54:06
Speaker 1: very nice.
54:07
Speaker 2: Anyway, So on the next episode, we're going to backtrack
54:11
Speaker 2: a little and cover episode three of this h this
54:15
Speaker 2: highly controversial season yeah of conspiracy Theory with Jesse Venture.
54:19
Speaker 2: It's the Wall Street episode and this okay, you're implying
54:23
Speaker 2: Wall Streets getting up to something shady.
54:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got a basically exact reverse proportionate amount of
54:34
Speaker 1: racist material within it. It's like it's whereas this one
54:40
Speaker 1: was like mostly cover up for a racist smoke screen,
54:44
Speaker 1: this one, the Wall Street one, is mostly real shit
54:47
Speaker 1: with just a little bit of bad stuff sprinkled throughout.
54:51
Speaker 2: Very very minor. So do we have anything to plug
54:54
Speaker 2: before we get out of here?
54:56
Speaker 1: Uh? You can find me on Twitter at high their
54:58
Speaker 1: hidar and other than that, you know, just kind of
55:03
Speaker 1: leave me alone.
55:05
Speaker 2: You can follow this show on Instagram. I'm finally going
55:08
Speaker 2: to start using that, I guess at Conspira Pops. So
55:13
Speaker 2: do that and you can look at pictures associated with
55:16
Speaker 2: this podcast and things of the like, and I think
55:19
Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah, should we get out of here? Yeah,
55:22
Speaker 2: Olivia say goodbye bye, goodbye everybody we love here