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Ep. 731: Second Rut?? (Late SZN Food Sources, Hot Does in the South, 12.13.23 RFR) · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rutfresh Radio, bringing you the
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  Speaker 1: latest reports from the whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go Farther, Stay Longer, and now your hosts
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  Speaker 1: Casey Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: This is rutfresh Radio.
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  Speaker 3: I'm your host, Casey Smith, and the second rut is near.
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  Speaker 3: It may be a fable or it may be real,
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  Speaker 3: but it would seem that hunters around the country are
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  Speaker 3: relying on a second cycle of dose and good weather
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  Speaker 3: to bring the deer in.
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  Speaker 4: This is Retfresh, Let's go. This is rutfresh Radio. I'm
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  Speaker 4: your host, Tyler Jones, and I am sitting here in
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  Speaker 4: a truck with case See Smith. This podcast is brought
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  Speaker 4: to you by First Light. Casey, we are kind of
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  Speaker 4: in a weird long stretch back and forth from lease
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  Speaker 4: to hotel Airbnb. You know, are are staying place Yea
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  Speaker 4: and Man's. It's late in the season, you're tired. It
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  Speaker 4: gets kind of hard to make these thirty to forty
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  Speaker 4: minute trips back and forth. But we are still after it.
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  Speaker 4: We're still having fun, We're still deer hunting. You just
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  Speaker 4: get in that car and get kind of warm and toasty,
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  Speaker 4: and you see I get heavy.
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  Speaker 3: You know, that's why I leave my little dial on
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  Speaker 3: sixty six. You know, it kind of keeps me a
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  Speaker 3: little cooler that way. I'm not quite as sleepy, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think, but maybe I am. I'm not sure. It's
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of weird. We are hunting with a big
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  Speaker 3: camp this week. We got we got some buddies in
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  Speaker 3: to do some hunting. We'll talk about that here a
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  Speaker 3: little bit, but it's seven guys is what we have
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  Speaker 3: right now, between our crew and the friends that are here.
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  Speaker 2: And to how seven guys you.
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  Speaker 3: Can either pay a lot of money for quite a
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  Speaker 3: few motel rooms or you can get a cabin, and
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  Speaker 3: that's what we did. But places that hold seven guys
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  Speaker 3: aren't always right next to where you're hunting. And that's
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  Speaker 3: a good thing, right because you kind of like to
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  Speaker 3: hunt remote places. And uh so it's making us drive
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot. Yeah, we are driving past a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of interesting things to look at.
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  Speaker 5: I just saw them two sable by the way.
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  Speaker 2: Did you see some tables? See them?
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  Speaker 3: We've seen elam though, we've seen Ibex, We've seen cimeter
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  Speaker 3: horn ORX.
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  Speaker 2: We've seen gimms, buck, I've seen elk, did.
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  Speaker 4: You say, I, yes, I've seen horses. Yeah, it's true,
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  Speaker 4: seen ub Delas, army Dellas. I saw big white tails.
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  Speaker 4: I saw big one this morning, did you I did big?
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  Speaker 4: I saw the one we've been seeing. It's pretty nice.
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  Speaker 4: And then I saw big like kind of looked like
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  Speaker 4: a mainframe a but had a little knife on one side.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of white horn's kind of had that high fence look,
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  Speaker 4: did he? I mean just the white horn.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes, just for clarification, we are not hunting a high
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  Speaker 3: fence place now, do opposite. Actually, I kind of wish
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  Speaker 3: there's at least a little bit of fence around it.
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  Speaker 3: That way, maybe some people wouldn't be on there when
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  Speaker 3: we're not there. But this you're hearing there, I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean, we're actually hunting an area that I hunted with
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  Speaker 4: my dad probably nearly twenty years ago. And surprisingly there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot more high fences out here than there used
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  Speaker 4: to be. There wasn't any high fenses out here when
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  Speaker 4: we used to on out here, but yeah, there is
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  Speaker 4: now quite a few. I guess not quite a few,
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  Speaker 4: but I mean I think I've seen three or so maybe,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, kind of kind of different. Man, it's different.
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  Speaker 4: It's cool, you know, it's cool to see those animals
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  Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But I was thinking about this
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  Speaker 4: this morning and as I was passing by those high fences,
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, man, you know, one reason I
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  Speaker 4: wouldn't want to high fence, like all things kind of
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  Speaker 4: just level of play and field and whatever. Like, one
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  Speaker 4: reason I wouldn't want to high fence my property is
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  Speaker 4: because I think it is cool to have a deer
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  Speaker 4: show up in the rut and have the opportunity at
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  Speaker 4: least have a deer show up in the rut that
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  Speaker 4: that isn't on your property, right, I don't really want Like,
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  Speaker 4: we've been seeing the same buck several times on this
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  Speaker 4: trip in the same high fens spot. He's got like
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  Speaker 4: a one acre little spot yeah there, and it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of weird. It's like, well, you know, that's that's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be what his spot is. And you're gonna like and
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  Speaker 4: on a hyphen's place, especially out here where it's kind
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  Speaker 4: of opened and there's like, you know, I guess smaller tracks.
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  Speaker 4: When I'm saying that, I mean like two three thousand
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  Speaker 4: acres like you're gonna know what deer on that place. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: And it's kind of like if you don't have a
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  Speaker 4: deer that excites you, you may not be super excited
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  Speaker 4: to hunt that year, right, Whereas like there's always a
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  Speaker 4: chance if you're on a creek system somewhere or like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, whatever you might be on like even my property,
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  Speaker 4: you know, my personal probably at the house. I hadn't
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  Speaker 4: seen any deer or that all year, but like there's
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  Speaker 4: still a chance, right that in December something ends up
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  Speaker 4: just eating corn, you know, on my property or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 3: We got a place near the river where we're it's
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  Speaker 3: a pretty small acreage comparatively to what's out here, but
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  Speaker 3: it's it's all right. It's got a couple spots, it's
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  Speaker 3: got some food on it, We got some feeders, and
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  Speaker 3: it's got a wheat field as well.
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  Speaker 2: And man, it's uh, we might have had a little
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  Speaker 2: success in camp last night. I won't tell you too.
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  Speaker 3: Much about it because that's gonna come out on video
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  Speaker 3: next year. But that deer, I'm pretty sure we don't have.
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  Speaker 3: If we have pictures of him, we don't have many.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's it's that exact thing you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: where that buck.
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  Speaker 2: Showed up. Yep, you know, and we were able to
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  Speaker 2: capitalize on them. We have friends in camp. One of
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  Speaker 2: them is named Leay McClendon. He might know him as
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  Speaker 2: Lay McNasty.
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  Speaker 3: He's the guy who makes real funny Instagram videos about
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  Speaker 3: like teaching and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: And it's like, why are you.
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  Speaker 3: Up you know that kind of stuff or or I
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  Speaker 3: don't even literally don't even care, so that's late. And
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  Speaker 3: then we got JP Frantz, who is a Houston astro
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  Speaker 3: picture you might have seen him in.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the playoff baseball stuff.
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  Speaker 5: JP st for Jordan Peterson. Yeah, Georgy Peterson France.
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  Speaker 2: We've got Jordan Peterson in camp. That's what it stood for,
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  Speaker 2: the mustache Man.
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  Speaker 3: And they've been hunting hard man and getting African, having
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  Speaker 3: a lot of good deer encounters. And if you want
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  Speaker 3: to hear more about that, you can tune into the
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  Speaker 3: Element podcast. We'll have a lot of coverage about that.
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  Speaker 3: But today we have got some guys from around the
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  Speaker 3: contrary to give us some Rut fresh reports. I know
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  Speaker 3: it seems late in the year for the Rut and
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  Speaker 3: it is, and to be honest, I'm sure, there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of y'all that are like, Man, the rut is over,
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  Speaker 3: and it might be for you, But there's a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the country still that has the rut yet to happen.
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  Speaker 3: And then there are parts of the country like where
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  Speaker 3: we're at, where the rut is just kind of winding up.
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  Speaker 3: And then there's still places even further north potentially that
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  Speaker 3: they are experiencing a second rut. And I've seen a
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  Speaker 3: lot about that on social people have been talking about that,
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  Speaker 3: and it was even mentioned some in our interviews this week.
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  Speaker 2: So, Tyler, who do we have this week on a
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  Speaker 2: rough Fresh Radio.
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  Speaker 4: We've got a guy named Brandon Miller who is with
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  Speaker 4: the Everyday outdoors Man. He's up in Pennsylvania, had some
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  Speaker 4: success recently. It's so interesting to me that sometimes people
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  Speaker 4: will shoot bucks this time of year up in the
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  Speaker 4: North and they'll just straight up just losing Antler. They'll
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  Speaker 4: just shet them off as they're running away crazy Like
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  Speaker 4: around here, they're doing some much different higher testosterone things
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  Speaker 4: right now, you know, which I guess is how we
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  Speaker 4: roll in Texas. Nate Creek from identical draw. He's been
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  Speaker 4: in Kansas quite a bit. They got a little bit
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  Speaker 4: of land there, and they've been doing some popk land
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  Speaker 4: hunting too, just kind of depends on what they got
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  Speaker 4: on their property. I think Mark OLiS he's out in
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  Speaker 4: the great state of Alabama, actually, the very crazy rut
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  Speaker 4: state of Alabama. Yes, and he's going to tell us
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about what trail cameras have done. He's
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  Speaker 4: with Moultrie and what trail cameras have done for him
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  Speaker 4: and his you know, opportunities at understanding the rut right
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  Speaker 4: in in that crazy state and figuring that out. And
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  Speaker 4: then we've got our very own Jp Frantz, the Element's
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  Speaker 4: very own.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he wants to be right, that's right. He
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  Speaker 4: wants to be a part of the Element. We're not
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  Speaker 4: gonna let him in just yet. He's gotta he's got
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  Speaker 4: to prove some things first, you know. He he ain't
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  Speaker 4: got the you know, he just he's got he's got
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  Speaker 4: to figure out, you know, how to how to win
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  Speaker 4: that World Series I think, first.
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  Speaker 5: But he'll he'll do it. He'll do it anyway.
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  Speaker 4: JP's out here in Texas, so obviously he's got a
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  Speaker 4: Texas report for you this week, and I'm pretty excited
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  Speaker 4: about all of it.
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  Speaker 5: So let's get to the interviews.
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  Speaker 3: This is Brandon Miller with the every Day Outdoorsman, and
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  Speaker 3: apparently I've seen a picture that leads me to believe
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  Speaker 3: that he's a buckslam full in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 2: What's up, dude?
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  Speaker 5: Not too much, not too much at all. Just got
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  Speaker 5: back from the cabin yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: It's later, real nice Pa mountain buck on Friday after
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  Speaker 7: still hunting seven and a half miles.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. So how far does that put you
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  Speaker 3: away from like the truck or whatever? If you're going
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  Speaker 3: seven and a half miles.
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  Speaker 8: I was two and a half.
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  Speaker 7: Miles from the from the car then, so we had
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  Speaker 7: to pack them out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh okay, just two and a half ain't no big deal, right?
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  Speaker 4: I complained all week about being two and a half
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  Speaker 4: miles from the truck earlier in Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 3: That's awesome, dude, So are you? First off, congratulations on
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  Speaker 3: the knis buck is really cool. You have one of
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  Speaker 3: the coolest orange jackets I've ever seen. Apparently you shot
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  Speaker 3: that deer gun hunting right?
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  Speaker 9: Correct?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: And so does the gun season in PA make it
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  Speaker 3: more difficult less difficult to find bucks or how does
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  Speaker 3: that interaction work?
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes it can be a little bit difficult. Especially the
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  Speaker 7: big woods are bear season actually the week before deer season, so.
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  Speaker 8: A lot of guys are in the woods doing bear drives.
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  Speaker 7: And it seems to push these deer deeper and deeper,
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  Speaker 7: which can make it tough. But we work for them
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  Speaker 7: and we try and get on them.
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  Speaker 2: That's cool, dude, apparently y'all.
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  Speaker 3: Y'all, so you have like a team of dude through
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of buddies that kind of all work together
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  Speaker 3: to kind of find the hot spots of deer.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: It's more or less just a couple of guys, but
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  Speaker 7: we kind of still hunt by ourselves and just try
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  Speaker 7: and find them alone, and then if we get on
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  Speaker 7: a bunch of them, we'll kind of collaborate and try
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  Speaker 7: and get on them together.
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  Speaker 5: I got you.
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  Speaker 2: So you said you were still hunting. Is that kind
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  Speaker 2: of the thing to do this time of year.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, for gun hunting, it's what I typically like to do.
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  Speaker 7: Sometimes I'll do a little bit of stand hunting, but
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  Speaker 7: especially with the snow that we had, it was more
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  Speaker 7: still hunting, just trying to find them.
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  Speaker 4: So if the deer being pushed back farther, is that
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  Speaker 4: helpful for a guy who's willing to put in seven
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  Speaker 4: and a half miles in a day.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely, I mean, if we can, if we can know
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  Speaker 7: and see the topography that we need to get to,
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  Speaker 7: just looking on maps and trying to find where these
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  Speaker 7: deer are going to be hiding out, it really helps us.
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  Speaker 8: And we're away from that pressure. We don't see anybody else.
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  Speaker 8: And these deer, yes.
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  Speaker 7: They've been pressured there, but they've been there for that
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  Speaker 7: entire rifle season most likely, so they're kind of or
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  Speaker 7: unpressured in those deep areas.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, So what are you looking for on the
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  Speaker 4: maps that helps you to find those deers? Those deer
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  Speaker 4: this time of year.
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  Speaker 7: Leeward sides, and if the leeward side just happens to
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  Speaker 7: be on a southern side where we have like a
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  Speaker 7: north northwest wind, those deer in those in that southern
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  Speaker 7: exposure just trying to stay warm in that sun. And
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  Speaker 7: if we can find some thick laurel and that's actually
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  Speaker 7: where I shot my buck in thick laurel on the
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  Speaker 7: leeward side, So that's kind of what we're looking for.
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  Speaker 9: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: So are you seeing any running activity at all right now?
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  Speaker 8: Or is that all long past, and actually that's a
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  Speaker 8: great point.
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  Speaker 7: So when I was still hunting, I caught three different
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  Speaker 7: sets of tracks with blood in them from a dough
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  Speaker 7: that was in heat, and I had a whole bunch
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  Speaker 7: of scrapes opened up in rubs as I was still
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  Speaker 7: hunting as well, and I actually saw the buck and
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  Speaker 7: I couldn't get the shot at that buck, but then
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  Speaker 7: I killed another one. So yeah, we're still seeing some
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  Speaker 7: rud activity. It's not as much, obviously, but it's still happening.
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  Speaker 2: About dude, sounds kind of bucky.
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  Speaker 5: It is the is? The is the leeward side because
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  Speaker 5: it's cold.
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  Speaker 8: More or less.
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  Speaker 7: The leeward side is that's where the wind is pushing
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  Speaker 7: over the top and they're out of the wind. And
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  Speaker 7: the leeward side would also, hopefully if the wind is
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  Speaker 7: out of that north northwest, have that southern exposure to
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  Speaker 7: keep them warm and out of that wind.
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  Speaker 5: Gotcha, is it snowing or has it been snowing up
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  Speaker 5: there much?
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  Speaker 8: We had an inch on Friday, but not a whole
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  Speaker 8: lot of snow.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so in the next week, what does the weather
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  Speaker 4: look like and how's that going to affect deer?
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  Speaker 8: Right now, it's gonna be typically lows in the.
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  Speaker 7: Thirties and highs in the mid fifties, so it's still
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  Speaker 7: a little bit warm for this time of year. Buck activity, Yeah,
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  Speaker 7: I believe they're going to be on their feet, but
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  Speaker 7: it's gonna be right at daylight and right at dark,
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  Speaker 7: and I think you're gonna have to go find them.
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  Speaker 7: I don't think you're gonna be able to set up trees,
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  Speaker 7: stand and get on them unless you know exactly where
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  Speaker 7: Buck's patterning. It's gonna be a little tough to find them.
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  Speaker 2: I like the aggression, man.
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  Speaker 3: So on a scale of one to ten for the
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  Speaker 3: next week, if you had to rank buck movement in Pennsylvania,
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  Speaker 3: what would you call.
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  Speaker 7: It, I'd probably say a three to three and a
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  Speaker 7: half and I would say, if you're gonna find one here,
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna have to be aggressive and.
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  Speaker 8: Go get them.
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  Speaker 5: Shoot.
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  Speaker 2: Man, that is a good tactic.
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  Speaker 6: I like it.
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  Speaker 2: Aggression. It's good stuff. Congrats on the big buck, dude,
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  Speaker 2: and I hope you have a great rest of the season.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, thanks, guys, appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: I've got Nate Crick from Identical draw here. Nate has
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  Speaker 4: been out just hammering in Kansas this year quite a bit, Nate.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on, man, hey Tyler?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, Man, November was great, and I can't believe it
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  Speaker 6: is December. Like the late season just snuck up like
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  Speaker 6: so fast. But I love a lot of some things
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  Speaker 6: about late season. But I'm also I always have to
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  Speaker 6: miss the rut a little bit during this time of
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  Speaker 6: the year.
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  Speaker 4: Oh for sure. Man, it starts to starts to hurt
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  Speaker 4: your heart a little bit, you know. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for sure. So what what the deer doing out there
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  Speaker 4: right now? Man?
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  Speaker 6: I've seen like a pretty big change in the last week.
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  Speaker 6: So I shot a buck on some walking hunting in
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  Speaker 6: Kansas on November twenty eighth, and it was just a
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  Speaker 6: quick hanging hunt. Scatted on the maps, got up in
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  Speaker 6: the saddle, thought it'd be just a good just traffic area,
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  Speaker 6: but also had some bigger timber around there, so just
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  Speaker 6: hoping that maybe there'd be like one last dough that
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  Speaker 6: would get some get some movement in the area. And
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  Speaker 6: I heard heard drunks to the south, hit some pretty
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  Speaker 6: hit some drunks back. Nothing happened for fifteen minutes, and
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  Speaker 6: actually hit the antlers together really lightly. I don't do
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  Speaker 6: like any big like rattling sequences this time of the year,
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  Speaker 6: even late November. I just hit him really lightly so
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  Speaker 6: that year could hear them. And sure enough, ten minutes
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  Speaker 6: later I saw a big old five by five walking
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  Speaker 6: straight through the grass to me, and he came to
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  Speaker 6: twelve yards. So, I mean, November twenty eighth, still like
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  Speaker 6: working the calls. Still the calls are still good. But
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  Speaker 6: in the last week I've seen a huge shift. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: the deer movement has, at least in our part of Kansas,
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  Speaker 6: has basically shut down. We haven't We've got cameras all
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  Speaker 6: over our private eighty acres and we haven't had a
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: mature buck on camera in probably like ten days. It's
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: just like, I think it's full on recovery mode. I
• 15:25
  Speaker 6: think those bucks are just absolutely exhausted from an entire
• 15:29
  Speaker 6: month of just chasing and doing buck things. So I
• 15:34
  Speaker 6: mean the buck eye shot was just skin and bones.
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: I mean he was just absolutely worn down. So I
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: feel like there's kind of in between from the rut
• 15:42
  Speaker 6: till they're not like fully just like food heavy, yet
• 15:45
  Speaker 6: they're just like in recovery mode. They're just ice in
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: the wounds, just kind of laying low and I feel
• 15:51
  Speaker 6: like that's kind of what I felt this last week.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: So so this time of year in that part of
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the country, the deer become pretty agriculturally depended. Is seems like,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: you know, that's where their main food sources are. How
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: do you feel like the agriculture is this year.
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: I feel like it's pretty much the same.
• 16:08
  Speaker 9: I mean in our area.
• 16:10
  Speaker 6: Of course, like most Midwest everything gets picked to the bone.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: So it's like, I mean there's still a lot of
• 16:16
  Speaker 6: food sources around there. We're lucky on our on our
• 16:20
  Speaker 6: parcel to be able to leave some standing food, which
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: definitely helps us later in the year. But right now,
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: it's just it's really interesting, like I almost feel like
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: you still have to like if you're gonna try to
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: kill the mature buck this time of the year, you
• 16:34
  Speaker 6: still kind of have to hunt them, like almost like
• 16:37
  Speaker 6: an early season cold from like you've got to get
• 16:41
  Speaker 6: really tied to that betting and just hope they move
• 16:42
  Speaker 6: a little bit. And that's what that's what this kid
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: of the year. I feel like they're just laying low
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: in their safest spots, and so like if you're gonna
• 16:49
  Speaker 6: sit a food source right now where two weeks from
• 16:52
  Speaker 6: now late December, if the tenths are good, like you'll
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: have hopefully a pile of deer in your food where
• 16:57
  Speaker 6: right now, I don't think they're there yet. I don't
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: think they're really willing to to make that movement happen yet.
• 17:02
  Speaker 6: But I mean there's food around, definitely. But I was
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: actually driving basically like north central Kansas.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I drove like from.
• 17:10
  Speaker 6: North central Kansas to like south south central Kansas a
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: few mornings ago, and I did not see a deer
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: for like the first two hours of the drive during primetime,
• 17:21
  Speaker 6: like before the sun was up until then. So I'm like, dude,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: everything's just taken a full on reset right now.
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I think it's wild. Answer, it's a weird thing. We've
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: seen some similar stuff where we've been hunting now and
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: then in the next week or so. Do you expect
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: things to change a little bit based on weather or
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: anything like that, or is it look pretty stagnant the weather.
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: The weather's stagnant. But I do have hopes that the
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: deer are going to just be like having to get
• 17:45
  Speaker 6: to the food source. I think they're just gonna have
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: to get there because they're hurting right now. They need
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: that so I'm hoping that the food sources.
• 17:53
  Speaker 9: Do pop on.
• 17:54
  Speaker 6: Usually it seems like usually like late teens to the
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: twentieest time of December. Always it always starts to pop on.
• 18:03
  Speaker 6: So I'm hoping that, Yeah, the next week or so,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna change up for sure.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Awesome, man, Well, thanks for the report.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Before I let you go, Man, on a scale of
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: one to ten, what do you think buck movement will
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: be like in the next week or so?
• 18:17
  Speaker 10: Uh?
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: Man, I this might be kind of depressing, but I'd
• 18:21
  Speaker 6: say like maybe four or five out of ten.
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, No, we got to have real, real reports, man,
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: And I appreciate the honesty. Man.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's where we're gonna be good.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Good, Well that's cool man. Well, so I guess the
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: idea is just stay in the woods and here in
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: the next you know, week or two, man, things are
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: gonna start popping on food sources. So appreciate the report,
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: and I hope you guys have a great rest of
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: your season.
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: Man.
• 18:44
  Speaker 9: Yep, thank you guys.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: This is my buddy Mark Olss.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: He works from Moultrie Mobile and more importantly, he is
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: a white tailed deer hunter from the state of Alabama.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: Mark, what's going on?
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: Hey, guys, It's it's going good here.
• 19:11
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 19:11
  Speaker 10: We're uh, we're you know, getting ready for Christmas with
• 19:14
  Speaker 10: the family and uh doing a little hunting.
• 19:17
  Speaker 8: And stuff like that. So it's a it's a good
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: time of year.
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: Heck.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, it's nice to have that cooler weather finally
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: roll down in the South, you know.
• 19:23
  Speaker 8: Oh man, it's uh.
• 19:25
  Speaker 10: We we've had a great we had a pretty uh
• 19:27
  Speaker 10: severe storm system come through, you know, like early Saturday morning.
• 19:31
  Speaker 8: Uh, and and now that cold wind.
• 19:34
  Speaker 10: Is behind it, so it's it's been pushing in here
• 19:37
  Speaker 10: hard since yesterday.
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: So it's feeling good.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: That's cool man. Have you been out in the woods
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: sum chasing deer round?
• 19:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I've been out a little bit here lately, uh,
• 19:46
  Speaker 10: and and been out hunting, and you know, it's it's
• 19:50
  Speaker 10: it's kind of uh that pattern, our rut is or
• 19:54
  Speaker 10: for most of the state is coming up. But it's
• 19:56
  Speaker 10: kind of like you know, hitting the systems. You know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: do you do you have cool weather a warm because
• 20:00
  Speaker 10: we've had plenty of warm weather and stuff like that
• 20:04
  Speaker 10: movement wasn't that great And then when you had those
• 20:07
  Speaker 10: cooler tempts had some good movements. So it's it's kind
• 20:10
  Speaker 10: of been up and down on the deer movement now
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: now mature buck movement had been very nocturnal still really.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: So my yeah, tell me more about the rut, man.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: I know that Alabama is one that a lot of
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: people have questions about. Talk a little bit about that,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: and you said it's coming up for most of the state.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: Talk about when that is too.
• 20:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, So Alabama, it's pretty cool.
• 20:33
  Speaker 10: And it all dates back to like the restocking efforts
• 20:36
  Speaker 10: back in the fifties and sixties. You know, deer were
• 20:39
  Speaker 10: brought from Michigan, Wisconsin, different places, and so Alabama has
• 20:45
  Speaker 10: a crazy rut. It's not all at one time. In Alabama,
• 20:49
  Speaker 10: they're deer rutting from mid November through mid February, and
• 20:56
  Speaker 10: you can find pockets. There's little zones. They may only
• 20:59
  Speaker 10: be like half a county big where they had Michigan deer,
• 21:03
  Speaker 10: and those deer are rutting in November like most of
• 21:06
  Speaker 10: the country. And then you know where I'm at, you know,
• 21:10
  Speaker 10: really Christmas is kind of a peak rut. So right
• 21:14
  Speaker 10: here where I live, man, the bucks are really starting
• 21:17
  Speaker 10: to move, starting to see new bucks show up, starting
• 21:21
  Speaker 10: to see those scrapes and rubs.
• 21:23
  Speaker 8: So there's some really increased activity going on, but the
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: dos are still grouped up.
• 21:29
  Speaker 10: The bucks are kind of just moving roam and looking
• 21:33
  Speaker 10: and a little sparring going on. They're not just all
• 21:35
  Speaker 10: out going crazy by any means yet.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: So I know chruck camers are a big part of
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: what you do.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Are you really kind of paying attention to the cameras
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: to get a feeling for what the deer are doing
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: right now?
• 21:47
  Speaker 10: I am, especially for some certain spots. So here here
• 21:51
  Speaker 10: by the house, I've got a very steep ridge. It's
• 21:54
  Speaker 10: really thick, I mean really really hard to access, and
• 21:59
  Speaker 10: it's more a bedding area, and so I don't I
• 22:02
  Speaker 10: stay out of there.
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: I put my cameras in there. They're running.
• 22:06
  Speaker 10: There's these uh there's some small benches as you go
• 22:10
  Speaker 10: up that ridge, and those are their travel corridors. Now
• 22:14
  Speaker 10: I am starting to see some mature bucks moving in
• 22:18
  Speaker 10: the daylight on those on those sections of those benches,
• 22:23
  Speaker 10: and it's because they're in that tight cover.
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: So so those deer moving, but it's just not ready yet.
• 22:29
  Speaker 10: So I am really watching the cameras because I don't
• 22:33
  Speaker 10: want to go in there and blow things out until
• 22:36
  Speaker 10: it's time to really get in.
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: There and hunt.
• 22:38
  Speaker 10: So it's it's coming, but we're probably still a couple
• 22:42
  Speaker 10: weeks off from where I would even try to enter there.
• 22:44
  Speaker 8: And I will use my cameras to tell me when
• 22:47
  Speaker 8: the time's right.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: Real quick talk about what what you'll see on the
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: camera that will tell you when the time's ride.
• 22:53
  Speaker 10: Well, it'll I'll start seeing those bucks move more consistently
• 22:58
  Speaker 10: in the daylight mornings and evenings, and then they really
• 23:02
  Speaker 10: will start cruising those things all day long.
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: So when I start seeing that increase, like for example, I.
• 23:10
  Speaker 10: Had two really nice bucks on Thursday moved through about
• 23:15
  Speaker 10: eight thirty in the morning, and that's great, But those
• 23:18
  Speaker 10: bucks came from somewhere else. They they're not deer that
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: I've had on camera, so they're they're doing their thing
• 23:24
  Speaker 10: like Roman right now. When when they really start hitting
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: those cameras consistently, that's when I'm gonna make my move.
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: Sure, So in the next week or so, what do
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: you propose that deer movement or buck movement rather will
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: be like on a scale of one to ten, if
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: you had to guess, Well.
• 23:44
  Speaker 10: You know, personally, I think it's it's probably gonna be
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: maybe in that seven to eight range.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: That's good.
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: And the reason I said, now that's not that's not
• 23:55
  Speaker 10: going to be well, you said buck deer movement in general.
• 23:59
  Speaker 10: You know, I'm gonna drop it a little on Bucks
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: because maybe around six because they're just and again again
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: in this state, it's all about where you're hunting. So
• 24:09
  Speaker 10: I don't want to say that because there's gonna be
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: places that are cranking and those guys are going to
• 24:13
  Speaker 10: see the movement. But across the broad stroke of it, uh,
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: you know you're going to start the bucks are starting
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: to move. We've got the cool weather. We've got stable
• 24:23
  Speaker 10: weather this week that's going to be favorable. I've always
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: noticed deer movement around here is best, you know, morning
• 24:31
  Speaker 10: and evening when you've got those favorable conditions, just cool mornings,
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: you know, and things like that.
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: So I think this is a great week to be hunting.
• 24:41
  Speaker 10: It's again, stable weather, deer getting ready, multi mobile, We've
• 24:46
  Speaker 10: got on there a game plan. It's a predictive deer
• 24:50
  Speaker 10: movement model. So I before the call, I've plugged that
• 24:53
  Speaker 10: in just to kind of see what it was saying,
• 24:56
  Speaker 10: and it's actually showing some pretty good movement patterns for
• 24:59
  Speaker 10: this week, and and that uses trail cam data multi
• 25:03
  Speaker 10: mobile trail cam data to track just buck movements. So
• 25:06
  Speaker 10: if someone has multi mobile, I encourage them go.
• 25:10
  Speaker 8: Check out that new feature.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: That's pretty snazzy.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: I'm actually gonna do that right now. I just say
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that check out Mark. We appreciate the report, man, Thanks dude.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: I hope you have a great rut.
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: Hey, thanks guys. Good luck to you guys as well.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: This is JP Frantz. He is a Houston Astros picture.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But more importantly, he is hunting with us in Texas.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Jp, what's happening, doggs?
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: What's going on?
• 25:35
  Speaker 9: Appreciate the invide guys.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: For sure.
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: Man, It's been a good time to sit he around
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: here and laugh and eat food with you. But deer
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: hunting is what we're actually here for. Been did a
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: little bit of that, huh for sure? This's your first
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: time dear hunting Texas.
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: Second? Second? Second?
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, got you. I don't want I'm gonna ask you
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: which one was better, because I don't want to know
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: you've been out in the woods with a couple of
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: our smelly camera guys. I'm gonna ask you what the
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: hunting has been like which one is, uh, smellier?
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: Well, I've had more sits with Greg, so I've had
• 26:06
  Speaker 9: more time to smell him. Smell him. How those gone
• 26:12
  Speaker 9: for you?
• 26:13
  Speaker 11: It's gone great, man, that's the It's the first time
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: I've been hunting with a camera guy. I was kind
• 26:17
  Speaker 11: of interested to see how it was gonna work having
• 26:20
  Speaker 11: two guys in a tree.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: No, it's been awesome, man.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, cool.
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: This is their movement.
• 26:25
  Speaker 11: Like I mean, this morning was probably the best morning
• 26:27
  Speaker 11: we had. We saw about ten deer and you want
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: to move right, yeah, yeah, sorry, Yeah, we saw about
• 26:38
  Speaker 11: eight or nine dose young buck and then what looked
• 26:40
  Speaker 11: like a pretty decent eight off behind the cuitar tree.
• 26:44
  Speaker 9: But they just they stayed closer to that river never
• 26:46
  Speaker 9: came in.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: Have you hunted feeders before, Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: I mean I'm from Louisiana.
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: That's all we think, right, Yeah, that's what we Texas. Yeah,
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: it's uh, it's it can be challenging.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And you were talking you in case you were talking
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: about this earlier, but uh, deer just come from everywhere
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: sometimes when you're coming to a feeder, because it's just
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: like they hub into this one area, right, right, and so,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: but as far as like, as far as like buck
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: movement goes, I mean you're seeing quite a few dos.
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: Are you.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Do you feel like bucks are cruising right now? Are
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: they in lockdown? What do you what are your assumptions
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: about that?
• 27:20
  Speaker 11: I mean, it's it's from what I've seen that that
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: that younger buck that came in, he just looked like
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: he was paying on mine to anything, just went straight
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: to the corn. But every other deer we've seen it,
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: he's looks like he's just been cruising up and down
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: that river. Like this morning we had that eight point
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: I think what we, what me and everything happened is
• 27:39
  Speaker 11: that he may be caught one of those doughs that
• 27:42
  Speaker 11: went and maybe followed them.
• 27:45
  Speaker 9: And they had those two single dear.
• 27:46
  Speaker 11: I couldn't tell if they were bucks or not, but
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: I mean they were doing the same thing, cruising up.
• 27:50
  Speaker 9: And down that river.
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I personally, I haven't really noticed anything chase at all. No,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: just some kind of nudgeing and stuff. None of that
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: nose down like that crazy. We've seen some of that.
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: We have on Yeah, there's an impending rain front coming
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: in for you know, the later part of this week.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: How do you think that's going to affect the deer?
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: It should get them up and moving.
• 28:12
  Speaker 11: Like I said, we had that front roll through with
• 28:14
  Speaker 11: what a day and a half ago, and it's the
• 28:17
  Speaker 11: movement's been picking up since that, So I mean, I
• 28:19
  Speaker 11: think it's gonna get pretty good depending. I don't know
• 28:24
  Speaker 11: what stage of the rut we're at right now being
• 28:27
  Speaker 11: in in West Texas. Do y'all know if it's happened.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: And here's the deal with what I've noticed about Texas
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: is like there are peak rut dates, but that peak
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: is not as high and the mountain is wider, you
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: know what I mean. So, like I think right now
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: there's chasing that's happening that we're not seeing, and then
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: there are bucks lockdown with doors, which we have seen,
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: and then there are some bucks or dose that just
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: don't even care too much, you know. So I think
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of that going on, and it seems
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: as if you're just waiting on the right one to
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: show up, right.
• 28:58
  Speaker 11: Yeah, definitely, I think the cruising aspect because I mean, like,
• 29:02
  Speaker 11: like we've said, the couple of days we've been here,
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: not a lot of bucks have gone to the feeders.
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: They've kind of really passed them up and just not
• 29:09
  Speaker 9: minded them.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, I think that.
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's definitely a key thing, right,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Like the bucks don't seem to be super interested in
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: food source essentially, they're just they're trying to find those.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so you're actually making some moves to not yep,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to kind of change things up.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: What's what's your thoughts on that?
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: Like we were saying on that one spot we were hunting,
• 29:31
  Speaker 11: there's just too many ways for those deer to access
• 29:33
  Speaker 11: that feeder, and it's just whichever way the wind's blowing,
• 29:36
  Speaker 11: they can get downhill from any angle.
• 29:39
  Speaker 9: So yeah, we're moving. What's it?
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: It's probably a good it's probably a mile probably a
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: mile away, same river system, so I mean we may
• 29:48
  Speaker 11: or may not see some of those bucks crews in
• 29:49
  Speaker 11: that river, but yeah, the plan is to just kind
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: of limit that access to that feeder and try to
• 29:55
  Speaker 11: get them to come in all similar directions.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, sweet man.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: So if you had to rank the buck movement on
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: a scale of one to ten for the week that's
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: coming up here, what would you think it would be?
• 30:07
  Speaker 11: I was gonna say between like a six and eight,
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: So I'll go seven. Just for the fact that I'm
• 30:13
  Speaker 11: never hunted here.
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: I don't know.
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: I don't know how it all really works optimistic, but yeah,
• 30:23
  Speaker 11: it's I think we were looking at it. They had
• 30:26
  Speaker 11: another front rolling through at the end of next week,
• 30:28
  Speaker 11: so that should definitely pick some stuff up.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the conditions, man, I appreciate your perspective on things. Man.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Glad you here home with this.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate it. Again, guys, it's a blast, yep.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: Man, it's good to see people still out there getting
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: it in the woods, trying to kill some big old bucks,
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: and it's good that they've got good information for us
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: to do that. I appreciate all the guests this week. Hey,
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: we actually have a video on the Element channel that
• 30:52
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• 30:54
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• 30:59
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• 31:01
  Speaker 4: our YouTube channel.
• 31:02
  Speaker 5: He you know, he killed this deer down in like
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  Speaker 5: the mecca of barbecue man. Yeah, for sure. Man.
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  Speaker 3: He hangs out undernet Hill Country stuff and it's kind
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  Speaker 3: of a cool Texas experience.
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  Speaker 2: And if you want to see some Texas experienced stuff.
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  Speaker 3: The dudes that were hunting with here in camp are
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  Speaker 3: getting the full fledged Texas experience. These losing Occagion just
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: didn't know what hit him when they came over here.
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  Speaker 3: We had Mexican food five days in a row and
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  Speaker 3: they were tired of it.
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  Speaker 5: But we weren't.
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  Speaker 3: But their recent success will be on our Instagram page.
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  Speaker 3: The Element at the Element Wild. We are not the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: Element Wild. You know the Element however, that was already taken,
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: So we're the Element. We call those guys Lap by
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the way, Yeah Lap Lay in JP.
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  Speaker 2: So go check that out on Instagram.
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  Speaker 3: And while you're there, head over to the Meat Eat
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: your Instagram where you can see and get more information
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: about the live tour that is going on where Steve
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and all them guys show up and tell a bunch
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: of jokes and Chester places his guitar for everybody need
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  Speaker 3: to hear.
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  Speaker 2: So this has been rough, fresh, Keep it fresh, m hm.