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UK Column News Podcast 22nd July 2024 · UK Column Radio

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Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty second of July twenty twenty four,
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just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK column News. I'm your host
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Brian Gerrish. With me in the studio Mike Robinson, and we're delighted to
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be joined by Ben Rubin. We'll just say it's a little bit rainy and
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dull here in Plymouth, as you can probably see as the backdrop, but
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we are staying positive because it's all change in the world. Are we,
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of course excellent? Where are we starting? A blank sheet of paper,
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I think is where we should start. So what's been happening? Well,
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of course, the big decision has been made and Biden is no longer going
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to be with us. So let's have look at some of the headlines here
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and well they're all very similar Biden quits, except for the Financial Times who
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said that he'd pulled out at the White House. Although we are probably aptly
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put, who are we now going to get? Well, apparently odds are
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on that it's going to be Kamala coming in. What do you think might
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well? Yet? Last night the rim around the streets was that perhaps Hillary
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might make a reappearance, but apparently she's a god behind Kamala. But then
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there's the issue of Michelle Obama, because Barack Obama has not or at least
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had not given Kamala his approva sal of approval. So maybe Michelle or Michael
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or whatever in him is possibly going to run. Okay, well, we'll
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see. Well, I thought we'd just pop across to Keir Stormer because he
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was tweeting out his great respect for the for President Boyden's decision, and he
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looked forward Sorry, I respect President Boyn's decision or look forward to us working
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together during the remainder of his presidency. I know that, as he has
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done throughout his remarkable career, will have made his decision based on what he
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believes is best for the American people. Now, I was pretty surprised at
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this, because here Starmer was not shocked and surprised. I mean, you
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know, Biden, why should he have stepped down? Mike, Well,
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I don't understand it, because, Sonny, it's no time at all since
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we were at all different. Well, let's have a look at that little
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clip where Starmer was telling us that there was absolutely nothing wrong with Joe Biden
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prominis. You know what, an increasing number of people are saying they're implying
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that President Biden is senile? Is he No, We had a really good
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bilateral yesterday. We were built for forty five minutes. We went on for
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the best part of an hour. We went through a huge number of issues
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at pace. He was actually a really good form and mentally absolutely across all
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the detail. We were going at pace through a number of issues, which
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was really important to me because obviously it was my first opportunity to have it
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byio like that, and he's showed incredible leadership. If there's one thing that
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came out of the Council session yesterday, it was a clear understanding by everybody
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here that we face probably more threats now than we've faced for many years,
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and that we need the resolve of NATO. It's the alliance that's been there
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for a very long time, that defensive alliance, and President Biden has led
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through that some of the most challenging issues actually that we are facing globally.
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We've seen George clooneyan that is suggesting he's not up to it. Is that
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unfair? Well, I've given you my read out of the meeting we had.
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As I say, we covered a lot of ground, strategic ground into
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national stuff and not just Ukraine. He was on good form and of course,
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you know various interventions. Yesterday we went straight from that to the dinner
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that he hosted. So I was actually really pleased to have the opportunity to
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be clear about a special relationship and about our long standing commitment to NATO at
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this really important time. Well are It's confusing, isn't it? Because the
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world seems to think that Biden was having some severe mental issues, but apparently
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not the Prime minister. But let's have a look at Joe's letter. We'll
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just read a little bit of it. He said, my fellow Americans,
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over the past three and a half years, we've made great progress as a
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nation. Today, America has the strongest economy in the world. We've made
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historic investments in rebuilding our nation, lowering prescription drug costs for seniors, and
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expanding affordable healthcare. We've provided critically needed care to million million veterans exposed to
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toxic toxic substances. We passed the first gun safety law in thirty years,
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and we've appointed the first African American woman to the Supreme Court. So it's
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all good news. He's really done a brilliant job, and he's thanking the
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American people, and he says that we got over the pandemic. These some
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of these comments puzzle so I think I'm going to have to bring in a
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couple of question marks there. But he said, we've protected and preserved our
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democracy. We've revitalized and strengthened our alliances around the world, apart from the
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ones that are running away from him at the moment. It's been the greatest
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honor of my life to serve as president. And while it's been my intention
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to seek re election, I believe it's in the best interests of my part
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in the country for me to stand down. Can't understand why, because Starmer
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says, you're on great form. Joe. I'll speak to the nation later
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this week, and then he'd like to express his deepest gratitude to Camilla.
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Is not bringing something in there. Yes, it's happened there, we are
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it must be a Joe Biden letter because the graphics didn't want to work.
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And he said, I believe today what I always have. There's a nothing
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America can't do when we do it together, particularly prosecute fermenting and prosecuting wars.
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We just have to remember we are the United States of America. And
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I thought i'd end it with the Biden's style question mark, So don't get
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too worried there might let's have a look at who's possibly going to replace him.
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Well, I've said it's out of the frying pan into the fire,
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because this is the quality of person that we get. I regard all of
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this stuff as immature in politics. But there we go. She's having a
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good time and moving around the dance floor. Now while all of this nonsense
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is going on, Keir Starmer was tweeting out that we must remember that security
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and defense cooperation between UK U, Ukraine and the UK always matters. And
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what was the importance of this image. Well, Zelensky is the first foreign
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leader to address the Cabinet this century. So that's Starmer getting excited. But
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I also wanted to point out here that we've got Poland and it's your friend
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mister Tusk Mike urging the EU to strengthen tie with the US to counter Russian
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disinformation. I'm going to say to the nation that my opinion, Stormer is
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a key key part of disinformation. As we've just demonstrated, let's leave that
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bit there well. While that was going on. In the day before,
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Jen Stoltenberg was in the UK for the European Political Community meeting that we were
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talking about on Friday's program. They're looking very cozy together there. On this
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tweet, Yes tweeted out important European Political Community meeting today hosted by ukpmk care
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Starmer. European security and Transatlantic security go hand in hand, and Nitto is
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the cornerstone of European security. We've explained why that is in the past with
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the EU's Defense Union diagram. But let's just have a look at a couple
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of the other comments that they made in the official statement following this. It's
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great to be back in the United Kingdom, he said, and I look
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forward to attending the meeting of the European Political Community today. We will discuss
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how to defend our democracies both from external threats but also from internal threats.
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Now, this is something that I've been talking about for a little bit of
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time because of this language appearing in the Integrated Operating Concept document. This has
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came out of the Integrated Defense Review from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty two,
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and let's just remind yourselves what the words said. The old distinction between
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foreign and domestic defense is increasingly irrelevant. Home is no longer a secure sanctuary,
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whence we may choose to launch interventions unhindered. Away is no longer a
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regional horizon, but a global one. And so now we're seeing the same
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language repeated by the head of NATO, the outgoing head of NATO, admittedly,
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but nonetheless it seems to not have moved from being UK military doctrine to
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being NATO military doctrine. And I see this, Brian, as being unbelievably
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dangerous because as soon as governments and multinational organizations start seeing domestic citizens as being
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a threat, we begin to understand who they perceive the enemy to be,
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and they're capable of doing anything. Yes, basically, and you've got any
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other thoughts, Well, more of this stuff has got to come out to
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the public as a whole, because UK column is finding this information, researching
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it and putting it forward. But of course you're not reading any of this
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type of analysis in the wider media. But this is where they're telling us
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in plain sight what they intend to do. So I absolutely agree the public
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has now become the enemy on a part with the enemy, such as maybe
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overseas. So let's look at a few more of Stottnburg's words. Here he
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is the main message is that the stronger this support for Ukraine and the longer
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we're willing to commit, the center of the war will end. Now,
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that seems that that's war's peace, right, So we've got to continue the
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war in order to achieve peace. Well, we're going to have a look
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in a minute, might because it's clear that the intention is utter what it's
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utter desperation now to keep the Ukrainian war running, and they will stop at
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nothing to do that, and of course nothing for the Ukrainian means, you
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know, slaughter of a whole nation. And let's just look down at the
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final comment from him, because he said, the paradox is that now President
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put In believes he can win aside, so therefore the war continues, I
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mean, is putting wrong? Well, he can't wait out the West because
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the West is failing. But of course this is typical Stoltenberg, isn't it,
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which is playing with the words to put the whole blame back on Putin.
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But the war continues at the moment because NATO and the West simply do
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not want to stop the war. And while there are Ukrainians still silly enough
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to continue fighting a proxy war for the West, that war is going to
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continue a little bit Later in the news, we're going to have a look
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at some of the statistics around casualties and this is where horrific conflict, but
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we're still not seeing any detail about it. So last week Charles was talking
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about the launch of the new Defense Review from Star Wars New Regime, and
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we'll be watching that very carefully. Of course, this integrated operating concept isn't
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going away. That will be feeding into that new Defense review, and we
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really just can't oversteered this point. The perception amongst our governments and multinational organizations
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is that people at home are a threat or as big a threat as people
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abroad. This is very, very dangerous, and we've already got commentators calling
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for this review as soon as possible. In fact, they're desperate that it's
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not actually happening this year, it's into next year because they want to get
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all of the military ducks in a row, working with partners, spreading out
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the load of the ammunition supply in order to keep Ukraine going. But the
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way the conflict's going at the moment, it doesn't appear to be that easy,
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as we are going to see. Indeed, Okay, Ben, let's
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welcome you to the program. And what's the letters down Youth Leadership and my
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life may say, that's a very good question. Yes, hello, everybody,
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So we're going to talk about my life, My say. We've talked
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about them a lot over the past six months or so. They're an extraordinary
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organization. They describe themselves as a youth led charity, but actually they're not
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youth led. They might have a few people in their upfront talking about what
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the charity's up to, but they are actually surrounded by a whole bunch of
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different organizations, from the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change to the US State
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Department, the Secret Intelligence Service, MI six, Chatham House, talkt US
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Media, Yad, HANNADIV, a couple of branches of the Rothschild family.
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UK Youth which is patroned by Princess and so like direct line into the top
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level of the British establishment. One Young World, which is chaired by Paul
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Polman, who has spoken about previously former CEO of UNILEVERA and trustee of the
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Rockefeller Foundation. So my life, my say, might present itself for some
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kind of organic youth movement, but it's absolutely not that at all. They've
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been extremely active over the past few months. Obviously it's election season, and
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they've been sending out updates about how successful they've been in reaching younger people.
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So they actually reached four million, sixty one fifty six young people between the
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age of eighteen and twenty four, and then nearly half a million of these
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people clicked through one of their links to sign up to vote on the UK
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website of a twelve percent click through rate, And we look at the ons
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data from twenty twenty four, we can see that they actually reached just under
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seventy five percent, seventy three percent of all of the eighteen to twenty four
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year olds in the UK. Right, that's an extraordinary feat that they have
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achieved. And let's have a little listen here to the kind of messaging that
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they've been putting out to them. Yaht this message from that job I applied
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for last week and they just pumped me off or I did, I'm busy,
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I want to get done. I'm trying. I'm trying. I have
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like a vegetarian mindset, but I just kind of ford to live a vegetarian
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life. I'm busy sake. Unfortunately, on this occasion, you've not been
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successful. That is twenty two nine year Please you are now? Really?
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Yes, I'll just say this, it's a show. It's fourteen fifty please,
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fourteen pound fifty? Do you coffees in a sausage roll? Yeah.
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I could have helped her, but I'm not having it. Died out of
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my wages. I can't as just so understand, mind, true business on
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me, mind is so expensive. I'm getting to nexcellense than you do that.
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It happened to my friend the other day and she called the police and
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nothing happened. They did absolutely nothing for her. I don't have six months.
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Oh yeah, enough is a place. I want to say, get
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your book. Stuff matters. She's made it from work and I'm here,
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let's go. So I find that extraordinarily cynical, as you'd expect given who
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we're talking about here, Because what they've done, they've obviously done a lot
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of research. They've established quite substantial networks of relationships with young people. They've
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asked them what the big issues are that they're concerned about. Cost of living.
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You can't get a job, inflation's going through the roof. The NHS
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is in meltdown, violence against women and girls. They want to cease fire
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in the Middle East. Great, but the thing is they're being presented with
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politics as the solution to this, whereas politics is actually the reason that all
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of this stuff is happening. It's amazing what they've managed to do here.
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And actually I might throw this im back at YouTube, gentlemen for a quick
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comment, because the thing that really jumps out of me here is that we've
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got the US State Department involved here. That's just cut and dried election interference
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on their part, isn't it. How many treaties is that? Is that
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breaking? No? I think they've got that wrong. Only if the Russians
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do that, it's a problem. Then. So this is the US directly
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interfering in our election, that's okay, But if the Russians do it,
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it's not okay. It's a very simple system. Okay, good, I'm
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going to note that down for future reference, Thank you very much. Putin's
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bad there, we have it. So how have they done this. I
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mean, this is a huge, huge, huge operation. We've talked about
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some of the organizations that have involved in putting it forward, but a lot
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of it has been driven through corporate partnerships as well. So they talk about
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three hundred organizations in media, entertainment, ad agencies, the youth sector,
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culture, sports, all different parts of the economy and across society been helping
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them with this. From Tinder to Snapchat. The Premier League so like football
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and a lot of the Premier League teams have been involved in this. We've
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got a live bikes. If you've been to London you would have seen these
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littering the place. So they've had their advertising written along the side of the
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bikes. If you're using one of the bikes and you go into the application
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to book it, then you're going to be seeing given X messaging, which
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is the campaign that My life might say have been running. They've had Ben
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and Jerry's there as well. The ice cream brand which is let's just be
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on this junk food and it's owned by Unilever as well, which used to
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be led by Paul Polman, who's a trustee of the Rockefeller Foundation. I
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spoke about him a few minutes ago. The music industry and artists who are
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getting involved in this as well. So here we can see London Grammar,
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who are a major label signed recording artist. I'd be interested to understand if
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there's any symbolism in there with the crossed arms and the flower, there's probably
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something sinister going on. Knowing this crowd. They're yal abb At Hall,
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so a little bit more high brow that they've been getting in on the act
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as well. BBC News, so you know, obviously non partisan BBC News
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getting behind what is essentially a neo Marxist revolutionary outfit. You've got the Diana
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Award in there, so the royal family again rearing their head and I'll come
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back to the Diana Award in a moment. And then also some of the
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agencies as well. I think this is really important actually because one of the
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organizations that they've been working with is ogil V uk ogile V being one of
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the original advertising agencies. Actually one of the biggest ad networks in the world
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is owned by WPP, who we've spoken about in recent weeks. The chief
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executive of WPP is Mark Reid, who is a young global leader of the
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World Economic Forum, and the vice chairman of Ogilvy in the UK is this
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gentleman Rory Sutherland, who is one of the biggest proponents and users of nudge
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theory, the techniques codified by David Halpern and the Behavioral Insights team in the
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mind Space document which has been spoken about for many years now on UK column.
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Rory Sutherland and OGILV were absolutely at the heart of applying those principles,
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those techniques to commercial advertising. So nudge has been rooted right into the heart
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of how this has been developed and how it's been pushed out into the eighteen
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to twenty four year old population in the UK. We also know that beyond
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ogi V, the organization he's working with Freud's Group. Freud's Group is a
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strategic partner to the UN Sustainable Development Goal. So this was reported on the
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news a couple of months ago now when it first became apparent that this was
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a client relationship. And you can see they're on the left hand side that
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they are presenting some of the campaign artwork that they put the seventeen colors of
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the SDGs across the top to show that these two things are intrinsically linked with
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each other. That's essentially what his campaign is. His purely globalist about pushing
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towards this international agenda and sitting right at the heart of it is this fella
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meta Choban MB. He's the chief executive. He founded My Life, My
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Say and he received his MB for the work that he did with MLMs in
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getting young people into voting into the political system. He is a good personal
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friend of Kirs Starmer. He actually posted this on July the seventh, just
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a few days after the election, congratulating Starmer, celebrating the fact that he's
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going to have a labor prime Minister for the first time in his adult life,
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and also talking about the fact that Starmer himself has been a good friend
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to My Life, My Say, but also to Choban personally, and Starmer
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apparently is the right person to restore young people's trust in politics. I think,
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well, wait and see how that goes before making any firm decisions either
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way on it. Now, there's been a big development this week beyond the
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work that they've done with the general election, and probably because of the work
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done around the general election, I should say Coban has been promoted. He's
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been bumped up into a new role as Deputy Mayor of London for Environment and
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Energy, working alongside his longtime friend and collaborator Sadik Khan. These two hang
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around with each other all the time. As I understand it, just from
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the outside looking in, it looks like Khn is mentoring this young man and
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grooming him or probably quite a significant position in the global left wing political establishment.
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They may be even talking about him as a future prime minister. It
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wouldn't surprise me. Now. This energy and environment or sorry should I say
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environment and energy role builds on the work that Coban's already been doing in Hackney.
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So he's been running that program for Hackney as a Hackney counselor. He's
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been introducing electronic charging infrastructure onto housing estates where frankly the people that live there
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can barely afford to eat, let alone by an electric vehicle. But Aho,
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this is what seems to be front and center for the Labor Party at
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the moment. That's all been done via a public private marketplace. So this
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organization here called zest to making a lot of money out of taxpayers in order
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to implement this charging infrastructure. So this is just another fascist system that is
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being perpetuated by Choban and obviously will be expanded because he's been doing that in
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Hackney is now going to be running it across London. The assumption should be
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that that we're going to see a lot more of that happening across the whole
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of the city. He's going to be replacing in the position as vice mayor,
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this lady Shirley Rodriguez, and she was under investigation interesting at the end
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of last year, and this might be one of the reasons why she's moved
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on, because she was personally intervening with universities who were writing unfavorable reports and
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studies about the impact of the ULES scheme. So basically, if the science
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doesn't fit your political agenda, then it's fine for you to ring up and
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try and song on people into changing their positions. So we'll see if Choban
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carries along in that vein of activity or not. He's probably going to be
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working quite closely with UK one hundred, which is the Christopher hone fact and
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C forty city aligned UK network of mayors local leaders pushing for a cleaner and
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more powerful communities. As they say on the front page of their website.
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He's probably in that role going to be working directly with this fella here,
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who is Phil Glanville, who's the director of advocacy and Engagement at UK one
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hundred. We joined there at the end of last year having had to resign
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his position as mayor of Hackney because of a scandal involving a party that he
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went to alongside someone that he knew had been investigated was being investigated by the
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police and facing criminal charges for child abuse or actually sorry for four pictures of
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child abuse. Let's just be absolutely clear about that. So that I think
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tells you quite a lot about left being politics in the UK and also the
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people who are sitting at the center of the climate movement. Now, who's
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going to be taking over at MLMs, Just very quickly to wrap up,
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it's going to be these two, Dan Laws and Melissa John. Fine much
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on Melissa John, but Dan Laws we've spoken about before and he is,
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amongst other things, a Schwartzman Scholar. The Swartzman Scholarship is designed to build
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a global community of future leaders who will serve to deepen understanding between China and
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the rest of the world, and it is backed by Stephen Schwartzman, who's
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the CEO and chair in a Blackstone. So it seems clear who's going to
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be pulling the strings at MLMs and right really into the heart of the UK
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political system from now on, and thank you very much for that. As
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you go through it, my mind instantly takes me back to David Cameron's Big
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Society and this to me seems to be the future. These people are going
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to be running every aspect of our lives. It is not going to be
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we as ordinary people will decide how we want to live and how we enjoy
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our lives. But we need to do a lot more work on the whole
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of the issues that you're covering, so thank you for that. Now,
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course. So that's live in person life as opposed to virtually live. So
28:41
anyway, let's move over it to Eric Pickles. He's been in South America
28:45
and Buenos Aires a few days ago and this was the thirtieth anniversary of Hesbal
28:53
suicide bomber murdering eighty six people at Ama Jewish Center and that was my warked
29:00
by emergency sirens, he says at that time. But what was he actually
29:03
doing there? Well, they were creating a new global set of global guidelines
29:07
for countering anti Semitism. Because Eric Pickles Tory is the United Kingdom Special Envoy
29:14
for Post Holocaust issues, so he was there on behalf of the UK.
29:18
This is what he had to say. Congratulations to Argentina and the US.
29:22
I'm delighted that the Global Guidelines for countering Anti Semitism were one of the first
29:26
documents the UK's new government endorsed. This is not a responsibility just a responsibility
29:32
for government. Civil society has an important role to play and these guidelines will
29:37
be crucial in addressing the ongoing scourge of anti Semitism. So we will link
29:41
to the document in the show notes if you'd like to go and read the
29:44
full text of it. But that's what Eric Pickles has been up to.
29:49
In the meantime, the Board of Deputies of British Jews has been complaining about
29:57
artworks which are apparently antisemitic. So this is all about the Royal Academy which
30:03
is running an exhibition of young artists, and well the Board of Deputies was
30:11
unhappy about some of the paintings. Let's have a look. The first portrait,
30:14
number four to five in your Summer Exhibition, they said, by a
30:18
member of the RA Michael Sandal, is somewhat provocatively titled the mass Slaughter of
30:23
Defenseless Women and Children is Not how You deradicalized Gaza. It features a faceless
30:30
pilot in an aircraft with a star of David insignia front and center and background
30:33
of bodies and burial frauds. The second is from Your Young Artist Summer Show,
30:38
by the eighteen year old named Kosar. It shows an individual hiding behind
30:42
a sign reading Jews may stop sorry, Jews say stop genocide on Palestinians not
30:48
in our name. This appears to be a somewhat submission from someone non Jewish.
30:53
The third, also from Your Young Artist Summer Show, is by a
30:56
sixteen year old named Andy. It feature screaming women with a swastika overhead.
31:03
The artist says he created this piece of work inspired by the recent conflict in
31:07
Gaza, which he says draws many parallels with Nazis oppression. So they objected
31:12
to that if we just put that back on screen for a second. The
31:15
current conflict in Gaza is tragic. They say it was participate. It was
31:19
precipitated by Hamas, who entered Israel October the seventh and murdered twelve hundred men,
31:23
women and children, as well as taking more than two hundred hostages.
31:26
It still holds more than one hundred. Hamas continues to fight Israel behind civilian
31:32
population of Gaza, which it uses as human shields. We would question the
31:34
judgment of allowing these pictures, with their highly politically charged, the controversial messages
31:41
into the RAS Summer exhibition, particularly with no attempt to present any context or
31:47
contextualizing works and so on. What was the response from the Royal Academy of
31:52
Arts. It was to say sorry, so we recognize an exhibition for young
31:56
people and artwork by young people is not in the appropriate environment for volatile public
32:01
discourse. They said in a statement, we offer a duty of care to
32:05
the artists we exhibit and the visitors to their galleries, particularly our youngest and
32:09
most vulnerable, and they went on to apologize for any harm or any perceived
32:15
harm done. So that's basically censorship as a result of claims of anti Semitism.
32:22
I think that many would dispute. But in the meantime, we've been
32:25
talking about the UK Holocaust Memorial for quite some time now, because of course,
32:30
there was a bill in June twenty twenty three, the Holocaust Memorial Bill,
32:35
which has passed at that time. Nothing moved on since. But the
32:38
question is what would the Labor government do now. Just to remind you,
32:43
this is this new memorial to be placed just to the south of Westminster Palace
32:50
and the Palace of Westminster, Sorry, in Victoria Tar Gardens. That's what
32:53
Victoria Tar Gardens looks like at the moment, and this is what would look
32:59
like if they build this memorial, and from the inside it would look like
33:05
this, But of course, why are they doing it well? Because features
33:08
in the twenty thirty road map for UK is really bilateral relations amongst many many
33:14
other things. So the text from this says the UK will open a new
33:17
national Holocaust Memorial and Learning Center, and the standards reminder of why we must
33:22
be relentless in the fight against Holocaust denial and distortion and anti Semitism. And
33:28
so that's where we are with that. The Liver Party has now decided to
33:31
move ahead with it, and basically any claim from Starmer that there's going to
33:37
be significant change once again seems to be not quite correct. I know that's
33:43
true. As you were delivering that, Mike, I was thinking about Eric
33:46
Pickles there. Of course, he was Community Minister in Cameron's day, and
33:52
Pickles described himself as looking like an unlikely revolutionary. But the revolutions arts here,
34:00
he said very confidently. So was big society the revolution to take over
34:06
society? And if it was, then we can say that obviously the anti
34:13
Semitic lobby is going to be given a complete controlling hand in that new society.
34:19
And I think there's a lot of questions that need to be asked here.
34:22
I also think that there's a lot of people in the Christian community that
34:25
need to start thinking very carefully about what they're starting to see happen. Ben
34:32
tell us about fun again. Yes, well, you would think that after
34:38
the past few years, the pharmaceutical industry would be reflecting and considering how it
34:45
might change. But something came up on my feed over the weekend that tells
34:51
me a different story than Actually, they're doubling down and they're going after aggressive
34:55
growth and profit. So let me introduce you to Farmageddon. Safe, traditional,
35:07
old fashioned, rigid, risk averse conservative. These are all words you
35:13
used to describe the pharmaceutical industry on a daily basis. But it has to
35:17
be that way, right, We're dealing with life and death here, or
35:21
does it. Farmageddon New York is just around the corner, and this is
35:25
an event where our industry isn't just making failure optional, we're actually encouraging it.
35:31
Because if you're not willing to fail, if you're not willing to try,
35:35
you're never going to really succeed either. Don't be one of those people
35:38
that sits on the sidelines and says farmer needs to be disrupted, but you're
35:43
not willing to roll up your sleeves and make it happen, embrace the chaos.
35:46
I'll see you in New York. Well that's common purpose that Janda right
35:52
there, Bud, absolutely yeah. I mean you don't want the pharmaceutical industry
36:00
to be risk averse, don't you, and conservative and to move slowly.
36:05
But that is the move fast and break things Silicon Valley mindset and ideology brought
36:14
to the pharmaceutical industry. It was absolutely crazy to see that. I mean
36:17
just the name of the event alone farmer geddon I mean, who who who
36:22
came up with that and thought that that was a good idea, you know,
36:24
and the name of the organization behind it impatient, So you can can't
36:29
you can see what they've done there, right, It's got patient in it.
36:32
There's a play on inpatient, so you can see how it links into
36:36
the medical system. But they're saying they're impatient. They want to get on
36:38
with it. They don't want to wait, they don't want to do the
36:40
due diligence. You know, it doesn't matter. As he just said.
36:44
That was the founder, by the way, uh he said, he said,
36:49
we're dealing with life and death, aren't we, So we should probably
36:52
thought But actually no, let's just get on with it and and continue to
36:57
innovate. And and this is the mentality that is infecting the whole of the
37:01
health system. We talked about this on Friday. We talked about the commercialization
37:06
of the NHS. We talked about the fact that it's now a two hundred
37:08
billion pounds a year captive marketplace where the state essentially works with a hand selected
37:15
group of big pharmaceutical companies and technology companies to deliver care supposedly to the population.
37:23
But actually when you dig into it and you look at culturally and ideologically
37:29
and sort of tonally, what's going on here, it's extraordinarily dangerous. I
37:34
think here, So now this read a little bit more about the event.
37:37
So they talk about it being for the impatient, it's for the disruptors,
37:40
the weirdos, the renegades. We welcome life sciences, leaders, industry,
37:45
NEBS, service providers, patients, HCPs, medials and more. Our makeup
37:52
is diverse, but our unifying principles are simple. We are united by the
37:55
idea that our best days are ahead of us, not behind us. Almost
38:01
triumphant kind of tone to this, And it is mainstream, right, This
38:06
is not some kind of fringe niche event. It is relatively new, popped
38:10
up last year. The first one happened in twenty twenty three. That they
38:14
have most of the major pharmaceutical industry represented, Gas Residentica of Artists, Novo
38:22
Nordisks and off thee. They've got a bunch of universe in there as well.
38:29
And these are very very senior people. So you've got people in senior
38:31
vice president positions, vice president positions, people who are leaders in their organizations
38:37
coming together at this event Farmageddon to talk about the future of the pharmaceutical industry
38:43
and what's on the agenda. So they talk about this idea of a whole
38:46
new world. This is from the European events coming up in September on my
38:52
birthday. Actually, maybe I'll have a little trip to Amsterdam. That would
38:53
be fun. A whole new world. We're going to be pushing new frontiers.
38:59
It's about more medicine. We want to propel ourselves into a new kind
39:01
of healthiness. So this is all of this proactive care. I forget the
39:09
term that they use off the top of my head, but essentially what this
39:12
is leading to is always on twenty four to seven digitally enabled health system that's
39:16
tracking you, monitoring you, and these are the people that are building it.
39:23
Ultimately, they want to completely transform the health system. Especially you can
39:30
see the section they're called taking responsibility. They actually want the pharmaceutical companies to
39:34
take an active role in building the health system, which is completely unprecedented,
39:38
absolutely not something that should be happening in my view. Again, sort of
39:45
culturally tonally that you can see in the right hand top right hand side.
39:47
I'm not going to say the word fed up leadership, right, So this
39:52
is the sort of this is the tone and the culture that's coming through in
39:54
this organization that's going into building the the future of the health system in Europe.
40:01
I mean, this is literally what they're there to do. They talk
40:05
about being values driven, They talk about focusing on precision medicine and artificial intelligence,
40:15
the power of data and essentially having this total knowledge and ownership of the
40:22
patient in order to maximize profitability. And I've just run out of time,
40:28
so I won't go through the US agenda, but it is essentially the same
40:31
thing. And I just wanted people to be aware that this event is happening
40:36
and that this kind of ideology, this kind of mindset is now what is
40:39
driving the health system here in the UK and elsewhere. Okay, Ben,
40:45
thank you for that. Well. As Mike said, there was a lot
40:47
of common purpose language in that particularly, it's about disruption, it's about chaos,
40:52
but its failure is good. If you fail, don't worry, just
40:55
get on and do your best and that will be okay. So really serious
41:00
descriptors there, saying, in a very dangerous pharmaceutical industry where mistakes result in
41:09
people dying, it's okay to make mistakes. Pretty incredible stuff. Well,
41:15
let's just jump back to the war in Ukraine, and I'm picking up here.
41:20
You had a sneak preview. The BBC simply no longer reporting because life's
41:25
too difficult, So no BBC Ukraine reports for three days. That was what
41:30
I saw earlier this morning, basically the fact there is a Russian offensive in
41:37
Ukraine that simply vanished from BBC reporting and they're not talking about it at all.
41:42
And this one I thought was significant, the basically Ukrainian corruption which has
41:46
stopped them getting into NATO. Apparently that's disappeared, but it's become Russian corruption
41:52
now as far as the BBC's concerned. Now I decided just to focus in
41:58
on this gentleman that a lot of the mainstream media is used to comment on
42:02
matters to do with conflict, whether it's in Syria, Iraq or around the
42:07
world. Heymishter Bretton Gordon, former military man supposedly specializing in nuclear and biological
42:16
weapons, but he's often quoted and this was what he was posting in the
42:22
Eye on July the nineteenth. He said that Sir Kiir Starmer and his new
42:25
team of an opportunity to write the history books in favor of democracy, decency
42:30
and peace. Well, I thought that was pretty unlikely because it's quite clear
42:35
that the new government is already full into driving the war onwards, and we've
42:42
got a glimpse of it here with Skia Starmer standing in the background alongside very
42:49
puffed up Zelenski as we are signed into a defense industrial support treaty with Ukraine.
42:55
Remember that this is the country that has been described as being so corrupt
43:00
that it can't enter into NATO. But it's apparently okay that uk is signed
43:07
into deals with this corrupt the country and the corrupt leadership. So can we
43:15
trust Stamer? I think he's just completely laughing at the public and let's follow
43:22
on through the segment to this gentleman talking. So he said this, we
43:25
do not need a bunch of academics to tell the government our army is too
43:30
small and we have the wrong type of kit to fight the Russians in Europe.
43:34
Well, we don't really have any kit. But you went on to
43:38
say this, the mistake the Nazis made in the Second World War was to
43:43
rely on technology over mass, and we are in danger of repeating the same
43:47
mistake. Now, I thought this was just an incredible statement, Mike,
43:52
because of course the Nazis poured in millions of troops into Eastern Europe, and
43:58
yes, some of their tank suffered from technology flaws. But is he really
44:04
saying that we will only get it right if we follow the Nazi line and
44:07
pour into Ukraine. So I'm going to questioning them over this, and I
44:13
think the real issue was the Nazis got it wrong by invading Russia, which
44:17
is what I think mister or hay Mission his team seemed to want to do,
44:23
or to get the government to do. At least he says that for
44:28
sure, we need precision guided, long range everything, but we need soldiers
44:30
to take and hold ground, and at the moment we have neither insufficient quantities
44:36
to hold the Russian hoardes. Note the language. This is just like reading
44:43
documentation about the Wehrmak's attack in Eastern Europe and apparently we're supposed to be following
44:50
exactly the same line. It's just quite incredible. Let's give you a little
44:53
bit more. The UK Ministry of Defense stated last Friday that Russian forces at
44:59
loss seventy thousand men in the last two months at the rate of one thousand
45:04
a day, and this was likely to continue throughout their summer offensive. Well,
45:08
there's a Russian summer offensive carrying on at the moment. Whether those losses
45:15
are correct, I very much doubt it. But listen to or let's read
45:19
his next statement here where he says that Russian forces have gone static. So
45:23
there's an offensive, but according to him, it's now static because there's little
45:29
else that they can do. And Putin has said he wants a ceasefire with
45:34
the current battle lines respected. So I'm just going to put over this static.
45:39
Is that really the case, Famish, Because on the battlefront, what
45:43
is happening is what I have always described as a lava flow attack. The
45:47
Russians are continually moving forward hundreds of meters in the built up areas, often
45:54
for maybe weeks or months until they take that particular built up area. But
46:00
in the more open territory advances of one, two, three, four kilometers,
46:07
which doesn't sound a lot until this is repeated over days and weeks,
46:12
and that is how the Russian offensive is moving forward. But if we look
46:16
at a bit more information here, this is the Kiev Independent, which I
46:22
noticed had an article about the loss of Russian troops and this was the figure
46:27
five hundred and sixty six thousand, seven hundred and ten. I'm just going
46:31
to talk through this a bit because nobody at the moment has the irrefutable evidence
46:37
of what losses are. But the important thing is the West isn't talking about
46:42
Ukraine's casualties at all. But if we say that the Ukraine statement that the
46:46
Russian casualty figures are correct at a ratio of three wounded per one dead,
46:53
Russia has a casualty rates of about one hundred and forty one thousand killed and
46:59
four hundred twenty five thousand wounded, and this is obviously a huge number of
47:07
men. Thank you Mike. But the other thing we've got to remember is
47:12
that the Ukraine has consistently been outgunned in the whole of this combat, the
47:16
whole of the war going on in Ukraine, by Russian artillery, air strikes,
47:22
the missile strikes, and in recent months by the Precision by the Precision
47:27
launched five hundred and fifteen hundred and three thousand kilogram bombs. Why am I
47:32
talking about this because, of course the evidence suggests that it's going to be
47:37
the Ukrainians that are taking the higher casualties. And if we just move on
47:42
through this simple analysis, this is something which should never be forgotten. The
47:49
BBC doesn't want to talk about it in the uk Ministry of Defense, but
47:52
the reality is on the battlefield, Ukraine is going to suffer the higher casualties,
47:59
and we take that at a three to one ratio, then we would
48:02
be saying at the moment that Ukraine had lost about four hundred and twenty five
48:07
thousand men and some women killed and would have about one point two million injured.
48:15
Now that those latter figures look high, but the thing we should remember
48:21
is that Russia, sorry Ukraine, has already lost two armies. We're going
48:27
to say roughly two hundred thousand, and its losses are so high at the
48:30
moment it's unable to recruit sufficient troops to sustain losses in a third army,
48:38
So we haven't We cannot give the irrefutable evidence of what these losses are,
48:45
but it is quite obvious that what we're being told about losses on the Ukrainian
48:51
side are simply not credible. Or we've got to get over the silence.
48:57
And I'm just going to say the more I get into this, the more
49:00
horrific it is. That we've got Starmer now as a labor politician who simply
49:06
wants to keep the wall going. And the fact is that the casualties now
49:10
for the Ukrainians so high that they've got to continue these conscription groups lifting people
49:17
off the streets. But there is some pushback because over recent weeks, Ukrainians
49:23
have been burning the cars of the conscription groups. So the teams, the
49:29
men and women who are part of the official government conscription teams, are leaving
49:34
their vehicles outside in car parks, outside their flats or their homes wherever they
49:39
live, and now Ukrainians are setting fire to those cars and protest at the
49:45
ongoing conscription so brutal and unbelievably bloody, and Keir Starmer signing us into an
49:54
agreement with Zelenski, who still efficiently should not be in post as president,
50:00
you know, under the laws and statutes of Ukraine. Well, I'm hearing
50:05
that in Poland they're starting to look to grab Ukrainian men that have left Ukraine
50:10
and are living in Poland at the moment and start them on training schemes for
50:15
being shipped back to Ukraine slowly. But you know, the comment I would
50:20
make on this, Brian is I'm just staggered that, no matter what side
50:24
of the argument you might feel that you're on with respect to Ukraine and Russia
50:30
or with respect Israel and Gaza, just the sheer quantity of blood letting that's
50:35
going on with absolute silence from the majority of people. It's just it's beyond
50:40
my comprehension. I can't work outs where has the empathy gone. That's the
50:45
bit that I can't quite get grips with At the moment, it's disappeared.
50:50
Perhaps we could just look to you on this one, because, as you
50:52
can tell, Mike and I've got to the point where we're reading and describing
50:58
some of the news happening around where words simply failed you. There appear to
51:02
be no politicians. Well, one or two of them are standing up and
51:07
challenging the bloodshed, but otherwise it appears that our political leaders in the West
51:13
simply want war, war, and more wartely. Well, yes, it
51:21
does make you wonder what hold Zelenski and Ukraine have over these people, right,
51:25
I mean, because it's not just loyalty to the cause, is it.
51:29
I mean, there's something else going on behind the scenes. I also
51:31
think that a phenomenal propaganda job has been done, particularly on the younger generations,
51:38
portraying Putin as a vicious dictator who is universally wrong in this situation,
51:49
and the Ukrainians as innocent freedom fighters trying to trying to extract themselves from tyrannical
51:58
rule from overseas. And there doesn't seem to be any nuance in this at
52:02
all, right, And this was true at the start, and concerningly,
52:08
it doesn't seem to have abated much over the past two years. Actually,
52:13
And that's the thing that I think you guys have actually just touched on,
52:16
right, is that despite this industrialized slaughter happening at the behest of our political
52:25
masters. The everyday people on the street just seemed completely immune to or detached
52:34
from the realities that was happening in their name. Essentially, well, it's
52:39
happening in their name at the moment, Ben, But if the National Service
52:44
slash conscription policy continues, which there's no reason to believe it isn't, it
52:49
may only be a few months or years before we start seeing British people heading
52:53
in the same direction. Yeah, that's true, But that's just here.
52:59
Mister Gordon is talking about future warfare, and let's just have a quick look
53:05
at the future soldier because well, in fact, the future digital soldier.
53:09
Now, the future digital soldier is a subset of the future soldier. But
53:14
of course he needs smart helmets, he needs helmet minded alert systems, he
53:17
needs laser threat warning systems and digital night vision goggles and all this stuff that
53:22
you're seeing on screen at the moment. But apparently in the UK here major
53:27
advances are now being made in body warned technology for UK soldiers and this is
53:32
improving operational advantage by connecting soldiers to data tools and new technology. What happens
53:38
when soldiers become reliant on these data tools, Brian, and then the data
53:42
links break, or they're reliant on their GPS systems for maps and so on.
53:47
What happens under those circumstances chaos. Well, if we just put that
53:52
back on screen for a second, let's just go back a few years.
53:57
This was the beginning of the language of the Future Soldier. This was the
54:00
Future Soldier of Vision. I think this was twenty eighteen or so, and
54:04
it began with a partnership between the Ministry Defense and the Royal College of Art,
54:07
because where else would you begin if you wanted to bring this type of
54:12
technology onto the battlefield. And this was Harriet Baldwin, who was Procurement Minister
54:16
at the time, saying, you might not expect the mold to work with
54:20
an art and design university, but it's this kind of non traditional partnership which
54:23
will keep our armed forces equipped with cutting edge technology. Are you impressed by
54:28
that? No, I'm no, Well, in a way i am,
54:31
because this is the sort of policy that leads to chaos. This is introducing
54:37
disruption into proper procurement pathways and systems and they know it. So when we
54:44
say that the military is in a pitiful state at the moment. It's been
54:47
taken there deliberately, and of course we need to make once again make the
54:52
point this is another case of no change Starmer, because this is a continuation
54:57
of a policy that was set a number of you years ago under the Tory
55:00
government. But we should also, as we were talking about on Friday's program,
55:06
make the point that this was also linked to the British Armies activity in
55:09
Britain because in Europe. Sorry, because while they one part of this is
55:15
the digital Future Soldier, the other part of it is just the way that
55:20
Britain interoperates with other militaries around the particularly around Europe. So this is a
55:27
key part of this Future Soldier initiative as well. But we have a little
55:31
bit of video here which gave you a bit of a better idea of this
55:37
digital Future Soldier. This came from late last year. The parent data market
55:45
for products on the soldier is only going to be increasing as time goes on.
55:50
The more and more devices that soldiers throw onto their load carriage means that
55:53
they're going to need more power, more batteries and faster data. So essentially
56:00
what we've been showing today is really what I think of as the glue for
56:02
sticking the future soldier together. See what we're calling the soldier electronic architecture,
56:07
which is the piece that allows one sensor to talk to another processor, talk
56:10
to another device. It's a USB two powered hub providing the power for all
56:17
of the ancillaries required by the soldier as well as all of the data connecting
56:23
that to a ends user device. It increases your capability set, so not
56:29
on you know, do you have separate, discrete capabilities, but you have
56:31
the ability to share that data between devices, so putting censor to it onto
56:37
euds or heads of displays, but also then to share that across your team
56:42
and across your company. One thing that's really different is the whole on body
56:46
wireless. So we are seeing better power delivery systems, better data rates than
56:52
the real step changes. Can we do that wirelessly on body? Remove that
56:54
that cable. Is the first time some of these stakeholders have seen these advanced
57:00
technology is being used as demonstrations and not just as white papers. We need
57:05
to have those capabilities that are there to give us that winning edge, and
57:08
the way you do that is by linking things in and you can create capabilities
57:13
incredibly quickly using software now rather than having to generate whole new hardware every time,
57:17
rapidly combining the capabilities to have a whole new range effects. What happens
57:23
if you're loaded soldier up with ten tons of batteries, that's a slight exaggeration.
57:30
They get tired. Why it can then the batteries run out and there's
57:32
a big problem. But if we look at the battle going on in Ukraine,
57:36
we've got men hiding in holes in the ground trying to protect themselves from
57:40
the drones. And is this technology going to take men on the battlefield into
57:46
a better space? I don't think so. Well, if you'll be cynical,
57:50
yes, well, if you want to find out more, head off
57:52
it to the UK or the British Army website. There's a section on our
57:55
future Future Soldier and well, one of the things that talk about is rapid
58:00
technology change and they're worried about stateton non state adversaries increasingly evolving their methods.
58:07
But they're talking about more autonomous vehicles, autonomous drones, autonomous weaponry and so
58:10
on. And really this is where I think this is heading. I don't
58:15
know what very interested in anybody's comments on this. But if people are so
58:19
loaded up with batteries and so on that they can't actually run and fight on
58:23
the battlefield, perhaps what we're really looking at is more and more autonomy and
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merely people sitting somewhere well away from the front line pressing buttons. Is that
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more likely? I think it's a lot more likely. Mike, absolutely,
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and I think that's what the game is in Ukraine at the moment. Well,
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let's just end here by coming back to a little bit of local politics,
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and it was this tweet point local MP Luke Pollard in Plymouth that caught
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my attention. I had to look at this couple of times because we're not
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read it. First of all, I thought that actually he'd made this statement,
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but it doesn't seem so. The statement is if we come together to
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advance all domain warfare, fully interoperable with our allies, we can deliver the
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capability to terrence and collective security we need in a more dangerous age. So
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that's what it's about. But apparently in a speech Luke Pollard urged close collaboration
59:23
with allies and industry. This is while he was talking about the big air
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show that's just taken place. But local MP, who I don't think has
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been that dynamic, is now helping to defend the country as the Minister for
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the Armed Forces. Let's just have a look at him doing more of the
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things which he seemed to be better at a little video clip and we can
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have a discussion. Hello, Plymouth, it's rather soggy in Victoria Park,
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but I'm down here today to look at the twenty mile hour consultation that the
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city Council started for communities in Stonehouse and in Stoke. There's superb ideas for
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a new crossing at the bottom of El Dad Hill, which is just behind
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me in the park down there. It's long overdue, needs to happen,
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but I'm open minded about the twenty mile an hour proposals that the Council's come
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together with. Has been really interesting hearing different people's views, and one person
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that's been hearing a lot of people's views today is Counselor Sally Creswell. Sally,
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you've been here all day and you're looking remarkably dry considering how much rain
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there's been. Because I've been home once, I'll actually dried off. We
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come down again. What do you a lot of people saying to you,
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we've got We've have a lot of people down, a lot of people with
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from the youngest and smallest people right to older people. And it's been really
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interesting because it's been a really good conversation that's been able to go on today.
1:00:50
Some people fully in favor, some people don't think so. Other people
1:00:54
feel that there's bits that could be improved, and they like some bits but
1:00:59
don't like the other bit so much. So what I would urge everyone to
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do is, if you can't get down here and I can understand it in
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this wet weather, I'd urge you to go on to the city council website
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and make your views views known, and share your opinions because this is a
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genuine open consultation. Thank you, that's great, Thank you, Sally.
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Please have your view well the way have your view. So, on one
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hand, he's fully engaged helping World War three arrive as soon as possible,
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and one place that the Russian nuclear war ants will arrive is on the naval
1:01:30
base in Plymouth. But for all the little people, we're just going to
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test you out on a twenty mile an hour limit to completely mess up the
1:01:38
rest of the city. So I've been particularly cynical today, Mike. But
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are these MPs actually even thinking? Are they in the real world. I'm
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not convinced. Well, we can talk a bit more about that in extra
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then, yeah, in extra time. We'd better leave it there, Ben,
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