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What Floridians Need To KNow About The Session · Conversations: Special Guests with Preston Scott

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  Speaker 1: I don't realize that I like a wheelchair accessible shelter.
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  Speaker 1: And so we begin the third hour of the morning show.
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  Speaker 1: It is March thirty first, the beginning of the fifth
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  Speaker 1: week of the legislative session. He's Jose, I'm Preston, and
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  Speaker 1: this is Salnuzo. He is the executive director of Consumers
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  Speaker 1: Defense and he has been a long time watcher, observer
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  Speaker 1: and nerd on all things legislative session in Florida. Amen
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  Speaker 1: to that. How are we having fun yet? I just
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  Speaker 1: looked at you in the seconds before we started and
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  Speaker 1: I said, this is the first legislative session and maybe
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  Speaker 1: ever that I am not enjoying what I'm watching happen
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  Speaker 1: because there's too much politics and not enough policy.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and so as a I would also call myself
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  Speaker 4: a nerd, and as someone who's focused on policy and
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  Speaker 4: worked in the policy arena for gosh, going on twenty
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  Speaker 4: five years. This is definitely one where the political dynamics
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  Speaker 4: and the political personalities have cast a larger than normal
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  Speaker 4: shadow over the policy making process, which for the nerds
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  Speaker 4: is very frustrating. So I would share and echo your
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  Speaker 4: sentiment where this is probably the most frustrating legislative session
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  Speaker 4: from that vantage point for me, I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: Going to ever intentionally at least put you in a
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  Speaker 1: position of having to kind of pick a side on
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  Speaker 1: any of this stuff. But is it possible that the
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  Speaker 1: politics of this session will overshadow to the extent that
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  Speaker 1: we don't get enough policy done because of the political dynamics.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I think that that's absolutely going to be the case.
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  Speaker 4: And I actually thought you were going to take the
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  Speaker 4: question in the electoral direction. Is it something where it
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  Speaker 4: casts a shadow over next year's campaigning in the mid
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  Speaker 4: terms one we'll have a gubernatorial election. And I think,
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  Speaker 4: while it's probably safe to say it's a little too
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  Speaker 4: soon to articulate that at least during this legislative session,
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  Speaker 4: I think if it doesn't improve and continues to build,
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  Speaker 4: and if it builds too long, it could be a
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  Speaker 4: legitimate threat.
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  Speaker 1: Did this begin with the special session controversy? Or were
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  Speaker 1: the seeds to this laid far earlier that we don't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily know about.
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  Speaker 4: I think there's a little bit of this that was
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  Speaker 4: kind of laid in the ground a bit earlier than
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  Speaker 4: the Special Session. I think the special Session debate and
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  Speaker 4: dynamic was a feature of what had been going on
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  Speaker 4: for a little bit. And you had the speaker transition
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  Speaker 4: or the leadership transition to a new speaker, new Senate president.
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  Speaker 4: You had a very powerful conservative governor. Arguably I would
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  Speaker 4: consider him among if not the most conservative governors to
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  Speaker 4: implement policy in my lifetime at least, and possibly in
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  Speaker 4: history in terms of just the sheer accomplishments. He went
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  Speaker 4: from an election where he won by thirty four thousand
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  Speaker 4: votes to a re election winning by one point five million.
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  Speaker 4: After that, used the next two years to implement policy
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  Speaker 4: from the conservative wish list, and then helped expand the
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  Speaker 4: legislative the legislative majority even more after that. And so
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  Speaker 4: you've got that dynamic with a legislature that is a
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  Speaker 4: coequal branch of government. And there were absolutely members who
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  Speaker 4: felt like they may have gotten their arms twisted on
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  Speaker 4: some votes or to push through some things that at
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  Speaker 4: the time they weren't comfortable with, and then you have
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  Speaker 4: the special interests playing a factor in that. And so
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  Speaker 4: I think those seeds have been planted and watered and
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  Speaker 4: these are the first fruits of that.
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  Speaker 1: When you say they weren't comfortable with, is there a
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  Speaker 1: real consideration of someone's personal comfort versus what is best
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  Speaker 1: for the constituents and the citizens.
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  Speaker 4: I think in some cases you would have members who
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  Speaker 4: would make an argument that they were intertwined, that they
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  Speaker 4: were personally and I'm going to throw out a hypothetical
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  Speaker 4: example that they may have been personally uncomfortable with going
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  Speaker 4: from say a fifteen week abortion restriction to a six
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  Speaker 4: week abortion restriction because they represented a district where they
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  Speaker 4: had more constituents who were very uncomfortable with that. There
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  Speaker 4: are a number of those types of issues where I
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  Speaker 4: think and that's fair over those two year period that
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  Speaker 4: the new leadership is trying to, you know, kind of
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  Speaker 4: plant a flag in the ground and say no, we're
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  Speaker 4: going to establish ourselves more as a coequal branch and
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  Speaker 4: push back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah to that, I would just simply reply, as long
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  Speaker 1: as you're representing the will of the people that put
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  Speaker 1: you in office, that's fine, Yes, And there's another new
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  Speaker 1: it's not a personal thing, and there's another nuance to
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  Speaker 1: this that we could talk after the break. All right,
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  Speaker 1: The Morning Show rest In Scott talking about the legislative
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  Speaker 1: session that is sixty days of fun and break down,
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  Speaker 1: where the animosity is found. What's the fighting about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's a number of issues that they're kind of
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  Speaker 4: in the back and forth, and there was something I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to reference that is real important to this discussion,
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  Speaker 4: and that is, right now you have a very vocal
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  Speaker 4: cohort of social media platforms, cable news and whatnot shining
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  Speaker 4: a light on all of this. And the question that
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  Speaker 4: pops into my head because it's something that I am
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  Speaker 4: paid to pay attention to, and people who are in
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  Speaker 4: the grassroots pay attention to it very aggressively as well,
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  Speaker 4: is how much of the back and forth in the
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  Speaker 4: explosive dynamics that we're seeing are a very vocal minority
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  Speaker 4: and the vast majority of the voters are not tuned
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  Speaker 4: into yet. And so as we get further toward the
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  Speaker 4: twenty twenty six campaign area, if those tensions continue, and
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  Speaker 4: if the twenty twenty six session mirrors this, I think
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  Speaker 4: we then get into the realm where it could cost
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  Speaker 4: you a supermajority. It could cost you swing seats, swing seats,
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  Speaker 4: It could cost you, it could cost you giving the
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  Speaker 4: left a foothold in Florida that then, you know, floods
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  Speaker 4: money into the state for campaigns and such. And I
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  Speaker 4: think right now we may be a little bit too
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  Speaker 4: soon for that. And it may be if the to
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  Speaker 4: borrow a phrase from The Godfather when Colemenza talks about
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  Speaker 4: every five or ten years, you've got to have this
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  Speaker 4: blood letting and then you know, you'll let all the
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  Speaker 4: bad tension gets out and everybody goes back to normal.
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  Speaker 4: If that's the case, I think this is a year
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  Speaker 4: to do it. Let's get through it, let's get on,
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  Speaker 4: and then we'll all be in good shape for twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty six. But if it carries forward, that's where I
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  Speaker 4: think it's a big threat.
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  Speaker 1: And that's where my concerns over where the leadership is
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  Speaker 1: in the House and the Senate that they in Just
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  Speaker 1: being an observer of humans and of politics, it tells
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  Speaker 1: me that this is a little bit more personally held
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  Speaker 1: than policy held.
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  Speaker 4: It could be, and it could be some personal animosities
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  Speaker 4: or feelings that have kind of carried over from prior
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  Speaker 4: sessions that are now manifesting themselves here. But what we
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  Speaker 4: see is we see a whole lot of back and
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  Speaker 4: forth in committee hearings and over bills that we hadn't
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  Speaker 4: seen in prior years. And we're also seeing very public
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  Speaker 4: things going on that I think in prior years would
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  Speaker 4: have happened behind the scenes and we wouldn't have had
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  Speaker 4: kind of public twitter or expats back and forth and
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  Speaker 4: so forth. So I think that's where the differences between
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  Speaker 4: you know, this year and maybe you know five eight
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  Speaker 4: years ago.
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  Speaker 1: We have a minute left in this segment. Let's touch
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  Speaker 1: on where the fights are.
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  Speaker 4: Sure you've got one in particular which is interesting is
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  Speaker 4: the legislator of the House side has overridden four different
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  Speaker 4: vetos that the governor put in the existing budget. Didn't
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  Speaker 4: total very much. It was only you know, maybe thirty
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  Speaker 4: forty million dollars a total or something like that, but
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  Speaker 4: four specific vetos, and the governor kind of came out
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  Speaker 4: publicly and castigated them that for that, and that's where
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  Speaker 4: that kind of public back and forth that I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: comes through. Interestingly enough, the Senate has not indicated where
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  Speaker 4: whether they will go forth and override because they've got
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  Speaker 4: to do it as well. So whether those overrides come
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  Speaker 4: to fruition or not, we don't know.
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  Speaker 1: All right, We're going to cover some other areas next,
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  Speaker 1: and we're going to keep plowing through this kind of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on in the session, and a look ahead
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  Speaker 1: as well still to come with sal Nuzzo of Consumer's
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  Speaker 1: I made a comment that I worry that good policy,
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  Speaker 1: things that need to get done, are not getting done.
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  Speaker 1: Is there any validity to my concern? Oh?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think there's always going to be areas
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  Speaker 4: of policy where you know, one chamber goes in the direction,
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  Speaker 4: you know, as part of the deal. But there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot that I think when we look back on this
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  Speaker 4: session is going to be kind of left on the table.
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  Speaker 1: And would we call it low hanging fruit. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion it would be okay. I think in
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  Speaker 1: yours it would be as well. And so, you know,
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  Speaker 1: just kind of running through a couple of them. On
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  Speaker 1: the immigration side, I mean, we've talked for a few years,
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  Speaker 1: let alone just this session, about the need to close
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  Speaker 1: the everify loophole, which, if you know, if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: got two loopholes. Well, yeah, and you've got the one
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  Speaker 1: loophole that says, if you have under twenty five employees,
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  Speaker 1: you can use the I nine forum, which gives employers
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  Speaker 1: the ability to kind of claim plausible deniability in a
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  Speaker 1: whole host of things. So you could apply it to
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  Speaker 1: any employer. And anyone who argues that that is cumbersome
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  Speaker 1: is a fool because it takes a moment to just
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  Speaker 1: log in and check. And the second loophole that I've
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  Speaker 1: recently learned is that employers are not subjecting their entire
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  Speaker 1: staff if they have a large staff to it, only
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  Speaker 1: applying new hires. After everify one into effect.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, all existing employees of a company, even when over
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  Speaker 4: twenty five employees was grandfathered in.
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  Speaker 1: So you've got that big. Every employee should be covered
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  Speaker 1: by that, whether they were hired yesterday or fifteen years ago.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And so you see and hear individual members talking
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  Speaker 4: about the need to close it. You can even hear
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  Speaker 4: on occasion trade associations talking about the need to close it.
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  Speaker 4: And yet it know it likely will not happened this session.
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  Speaker 1: What else?
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  Speaker 4: Gun rights very low hanging fruit. In my opinion, you've
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  Speaker 4: got to bill to restore the rights of eighteen and
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  Speaker 4: twenty year old adults to purchase firearms. It moved past
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  Speaker 4: its last committee before the full House, but none of
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  Speaker 4: the Senate bills that have been filed have been heard
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  Speaker 4: by a single committee. So I can't anticipate anything happening.
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  Speaker 1: There is there a reason given why they're not touching
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  Speaker 1: something that is so fundamental to our constitution.
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  Speaker 4: I do not know, and you even have. I saw
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  Speaker 4: a post from the Attorney General of Florida saying, you know,
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  Speaker 4: he's hunting, and he's saying there is no legal or
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  Speaker 4: constitutional reason that an eighteen, nineteen, or twenty year old
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  Speaker 4: should not be able to purchase a firearm. And so
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  Speaker 4: you've even got the Florida a g behind this. But
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  Speaker 4: I did kind of want to touch on one element
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  Speaker 4: of this, which was the last week Senator Randy Fine,
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  Speaker 4: who's about to go through the election for Congress, he
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  Speaker 4: presented the campus carry bill and its committee stop. Now,
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  Speaker 4: there were tons of public testimony against it, as expected.
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  Speaker 4: Then it got to debate and you had Senator Carlos
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  Speaker 4: Girima Smith, who's this very loud, boisterous senator. He was
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  Speaker 4: in the House very left. He did his typical oration
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  Speaker 4: and opposition. But then you had Senator Jason Pizzow and
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  Speaker 4: even though he opposed the bill, and I disagree with
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  Speaker 4: him on his opposition, but he came to its defense
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  Speaker 4: in a way that I would absolutely encourage anyone to watch,
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  Speaker 4: especially considering how then Senator Fine used it with the
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  Speaker 4: close on his bill. That was really how the process
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  Speaker 4: should unfold. The sad part is the bill failed in
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  Speaker 4: committee because you did have two Senators Corey Simon and
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  Speaker 4: Jen Bradley, they were not president in the committee hearing
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  Speaker 4: to vote, and then publican Senator Eleana Garcia voted no,
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  Speaker 4: so it completely killed the bill. So those are the
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  Speaker 4: things that are going on in that front, and it's
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  Speaker 4: a sad thing on a low hanging piece of policy.
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  Speaker 1: Hundred point seven w FLA final segment. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where the time went. Salnuzo with me from Consumers Defense.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked about some things that maybe ought to have
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  Speaker 1: the attention of lawmakers that might not be getting the
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  Speaker 1: full attention. Are there things that they're spending time on
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  Speaker 1: that perhaps would be better spent on some of those
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  Speaker 1: other things.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think one that we can kind of
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  Speaker 4: home in on because we've talked about it a whole
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  Speaker 4: lot of the years is the issue of insurance in
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  Speaker 4: the state of Florida, particularly in property insurance and then
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  Speaker 4: in auto. And honestly, this is one where I have
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  Speaker 4: a lot of trouble understanding it from a policy angle.
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  Speaker 4: I get the politics behind it, but from a policy angle,
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  Speaker 4: I just don't. The House is moving a bill. It's
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  Speaker 4: HB fifteen fifty one. It would pretty much reverse course
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  Speaker 4: completely on the tort reforms from just two years ago.
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  Speaker 4: In twenty twenty three, the committees voted on it. The
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  Speaker 4: two committees, it's been to sixteen one and fifteen one
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  Speaker 4: to move it forward. So you have members in fact
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  Speaker 4: that voted for the tort bills two years ago that
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  Speaker 4: are now turning basically one hundred and eighty degrees and
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  Speaker 4: voting the opposite way. Now, the Senate does have a
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  Speaker 4: companion bill to this, but it has not made an
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  Speaker 4: agenda for a committee yet. Now, ordinarily I would say
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  Speaker 4: it's almost likely dead for the session, But with so
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  Speaker 4: many of those types of bills in the sale imposture
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  Speaker 4: that we're seeing with this, I'm kind of prepping myself
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  Speaker 4: for some major move in the final couple of weeks
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  Speaker 4: a session the leaders work out a massive final agreement
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  Speaker 4: includes taking up these dangling bills and moving them through,
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  Speaker 4: and then they go forward. So on the property side,
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  Speaker 4: you've got that it would reverse course on the tort reforms,
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  Speaker 4: and then you've got the shift to auto insurance. And
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  Speaker 4: this is one where the legislature has done this before.
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  Speaker 4: They've passed a repeal of the Personal Injury Protection PIP
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  Speaker 4: and they've sent it to the governor and he vetoed
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  Speaker 4: it because he rightly deduced it would effectively raise rates
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  Speaker 4: on drivers because it wasn't paired with some other needed reforms.
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  Speaker 4: I've looked over this year's bill that would repeal it,
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  Speaker 4: and it's pretty much the same version. And what I'm
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  Speaker 4: intrigued by is it's in both the Senate and the House,
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  Speaker 4: and they're gonna move something, and I wonder if he's
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  Speaker 4: going to vet it.
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  Speaker 1: And if so, do they try to override it? Do
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  Speaker 1: consumer citizens in the state have unrealistic expectations of the
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  Speaker 1: industry because I feel like there's been a perfect storm
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  Speaker 1: in that any changes that have been put into place
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  Speaker 1: have had to go against the wind of inflation.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, and I think you're spot on. I would try
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  Speaker 4: to be as diplomatic as possible in saying this that
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  Speaker 4: I think as non informed people within the insurance arena,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, who really pays attention to the insurance arena, well,
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  Speaker 4: policymakers and people in the insurance arena and trial attorneys.
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  Speaker 1: And everyone once or twice a year when they get.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: Their premium exactly, and so all that they're looking at
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: is did my premiums go up or my premiums go down?
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: And they don't care why. And there is a big
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: why in this, And so you are spot on when
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: ruth shingles and lumber and glass and all of these
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: other things that go into making you whole, when the
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: prices of them have gone up over the last four
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: years in some years double digits. It's not an easy
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: fix to get those rates down because those rates are
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: reflective of where inflation is.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: At thirty seconds. What's the big task for the week?
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: The big big task for the week, and I struggle
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: because we didn't get to it until the end. Here
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: is the budget. It's the one constitutional responsibility. Both the
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Senate and House have released their budget proposals. The House
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: is six billion dollars less than the current year and
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: two point five billion dollars less than the governor proposed,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: and the Senate version is a little bit higher. I
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: think there's about a three and a half four billion
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: dollar gap between the House and the Senate. The big
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: thing for this week is the appropriations. The full appropriations
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: committees will pass those budgets, and then they go to
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: the chambers, which triggers the Conference committee. So maybe next
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: week we'll have some time to un pack the various proposals,
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: where the differences are, and how they're kind of moving
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: ahead with a conference plan.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Thanks for the time, Always a pleasure to be with you, Saluzo.
• 25:09
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