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Reputation on the Line: What Really Defines Us? · All About The Joy

• 0:08
  Carmen Lezeth: wow, hi everyone, welcome to all about the private lounge.
• 0:12
  Carmen Lezeth: We are, uh always, always learning and enjoying the technicalities of restream, so shout out to restream that I pay so much money for.
• 0:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, woo, I am not advocating you get Restream, but I'm not saying you shouldn't.
• 0:30
  Carmen Lezeth: It's all a thing.
• 0:31
  Rick Costa: So Rick Costas in the house.
• 0:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi Hi, rick, how you doing what's up.
• 0:36
  Rick Costa: What's up?
• 0:37
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia Lopez Ruiz Ruiz Lopez Lopez.
• 0:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh Jess, cynthia, I'm just over.
• 0:43
  Carmen Lezeth: Hi, cynthia, how you doing?
• 0:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Hey, last week's episode was so great, so those of you who didn't catch the Private Lounge last week please check it out.
• 0:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It's so good with Dr Means and we got some decent hits and so I'm really excited about it.
• 0:57
  Carmen Lezeth: But really inspiring woman.
• 0:59
  Carmen Lezeth: So I just wanted to make sure For those of you who needed a little inspiration, she's the right person to go check out.
• 1:06
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys checked it out right.
• 1:07
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, cynthia, you were on the show, but Rick, were you able to watch it at all?
• 1:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You were on the show On Sunday.
• 1:13
  Carmen Lezeth: I was watching oh you were on on Sunday, that's right.
• 1:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm so sorry.
• 1:16
  Rick Costa: I'm so sorry, I'm on the show.
• 1:18
  Carmen Lezeth: Look it, it's been a week.
• 1:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, but yeah, so first let's start with.
• 1:28
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you think about your reputation?
• 1:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Does it matter to you what others think about you or what other organizations think about you?
• 1:32
  Carmen Lezeth: Or do you go into a bank ever and try to apply for a loan and not get one, and does that make you feel bad?
• 1:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think rejection makes anyone feel bad, regardless of what it is.
• 1:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Is it makes anyone feel bad regardless of what it is, but I don't think I've ever had to do anything like that.
• 1:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: As far as reputation like my thing is, I always want people to know that I am a good person.
• 1:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Like somebody talks crap about me like it may or may not be true, you know, like Carmen always says, I'm the mean one, but there are times I can be.
• 2:04
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I can be, I'm not going to lie.
• 2:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying between you and me you're the mean one, but everyone thinks I am.
• 2:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: For the most part, my reputation is I have a big heart and you know I do care about people and that is true and it does make you feel good and stuff.
• 2:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So I don't know, I think it just kind of depends on the reputation whether it matters or not.
• 2:28
  Carmen Lezeth: But wait, I think it's interesting.
• 2:29
  Carmen Lezeth: So you think your reputation is is what again?
• 2:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: What was that again that I have a big heart and that I do care about people.
• 2:36
  Carmen Lezeth: Big car- no, I'm just kidding Big heart.
• 2:38
  Carmen Lezeth: What else?
• 2:39
  Carmen Lezeth: Sorry, you gotta read what and what else, and that I care about people.
• 2:52
  Carmen Lezeth: It's true.
• 2:52
  Carmen Lezeth: What's your reputation?
• 2:53
  Carmen Lezeth: What do you think your reputation is?
• 2:56
  Rick Costa: I think the biggest thing is can you be dependent upon?
• 2:59
  Rick Costa: If can you be dependent upon, are you a man or a woman of your word?
• 3:05
  Rick Costa: Do people think of you as truthful or yeah?
• 3:08
  Carmen Lezeth: wait, but what's your reputation?
• 3:11
  Rick Costa: what is my reputation?
• 3:12
  Carmen Lezeth: yeah, what do you think it is?
• 3:17
  Rick Costa: family oriented, clearly, because I'm taking care of my mom, which which is very hard.
• 3:23
  Rick Costa: Super loyal and faithful to the end.
• 3:26
  Rick Costa: Same job for over 20 years.
• 3:28
  Rick Costa: Even though I get treated like crap, like loyal and through no matter what thick and thin, I'm there, I'm sticking with you, hello.
• 3:38
  Rick Costa: Would you guys have been here the whole time?
• 3:40
  Rick Costa: Even when it's super hard, I make a way.
• 3:42
  Rick Costa: I find a way to go out and come out even if it's super hard, I make a way.
• 3:51
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I find a way to go out and come out, even if it's going through htw hockey sticks.
• 3:53
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: But yeah, cynthia, what did?
• 3:53
  Carmen Lezeth: you say, when you just oh, I said, and he's religious, you know, oh yeah, religious, yeah, I'm like, and what that's actually something that was when I first started getting religious was?
• 4:04
  Rick Costa: it talks about reputation quite a bit in the Bible actually.
• 4:07
  Rick Costa: So that was pounded into my brain of like make it so easy that people will talk bad about you.
• 4:13
  Rick Costa: Live in such a way that nobody can say anything bad about you.
• 4:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But is that really possible?
• 4:18
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean in such a way that nobody can say anything bad about you.
• 4:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Try.
• 4:24
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You can try, but the haters are still going to hate.
• 4:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think that says more about them than it does about you.
• 4:30
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah.
• 4:33
  Carmen Lezeth: That's interesting.
• 4:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 4:34
  Carmen Lezeth: I just, yeah, I don't want to get into it so what about you, carmen?
• 4:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I think I'm hard.
• 4:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I think people think I'm pretty hard and mean Blunt Probably blunt is a better word.
• 4:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I think people think I might be funny, maybe a little bit too sarcastic or something.
• 4:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I think my reputation has more of a negative.
• 4:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I tend to look at the negative sides of what people think of me, not the good stuff.
• 5:00
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not that I don't care, I do care.
• 5:01
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think there's also something about being strong and I have conviction and I stand on what I believe.
• 5:10
  Carmen Lezeth: There are that part of it too.
• 5:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I am absolutely loyal until you fuck up and then I'm not.
• 5:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I will drop you quickly if I realize you're not a good person.
• 5:23
  Carmen Lezeth: So I think I have really strict rules and it bothers some people, but I think my reputation matters to me because I've worked so hard to try to be a good person.
• 5:36
  Carmen Lezeth: It doesn't mean I always succeed.
• 5:38
  Carmen Lezeth: Being a good person doesn't mean you don't sometimes make mistakes and fail.
• 5:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 5:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you do, but can you own up to it?
• 5:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you take the hit?
• 5:47
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 5:48
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you get back up?
• 5:50
  Carmen Lezeth: You know that's.
• 5:51
  Carmen Lezeth: That's about integrity, that's about character, that's about perseverance.
• 5:55
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, and I think all of that is part of your reputation, you know, and I think it does matter to me.
• 6:03
  Carmen Lezeth: It matters to me a lot.
• 6:04
  Carmen Lezeth: People are like it don't matter, I don't care what people think.
• 6:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I care what people think because I've worked very hard to be who I am and I want you to think before you come in my space.
• 6:14
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 6:15
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I don't want you to be confused as to who we're going to be if you're going to be in my life, because I definitely have boundaries and I definitely have um rules about being in my life and some people don't like it and that's okay, you know it's I do and I don't, both at the same time.
• 6:37
  Rick Costa: I would like people to think well of me, but if you don't, you don't pay my bills.
• 6:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it would be weird to walk around life thinking everybody thinks highly of you or thinks great you know, or like that you have a great reputation, you know.
• 6:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Somebody said it was about ego.
• 6:56
  Carmen Lezeth: That my problem is is I have too much ego.
• 6:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, okay, what do you want me to do?
• 7:03
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't know what that means.
• 7:04
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think they confuse ego with confidence.
• 7:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yes.
• 7:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Okay, what do you want me to do?
• 7:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't know what that means.
• 7:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think they confuse ego with confidence.
• 7:07
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yes.
• 7:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, woo yes.
• 7:11
  Rick Costa: One of the first words you said was hard.
• 7:14
  Rick Costa: I would replace hard with firm.
• 7:16
  Rick Costa: Okay, it's a slight difference, but it's a difference.
• 7:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It makes a difference.
• 7:21
  Rick Costa: Hard is almost like impenetrable where firm is.
• 7:24
  Rick Costa: I'm not backing down.
• 7:24
  Rick Costa: Yeah, that's fair.
• 7:25
  Rick Costa: That's fair, it makes a difference.
• 7:25
  Carmen Lezeth: It's almost like impenetrable where firm is.
• 7:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not backing down.
• 7:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, that's fair.
• 7:28
  Carmen Lezeth: That's fair, I'll take that.
• 7:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I think I don't know.
• 7:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I think I made the decision about stepping away from the grants and it made me a little bit sad because I really think that we have something worthy, or that I have something worthy that needs funding.
• 7:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you know what I mean?
• 7:46
  Carmen Lezeth: But I had to make this decision because, number one, it was stressing me out.
• 7:49
  Carmen Lezeth: It was so stressing me out and it was making me like do you ever do something where you're just like you know you shouldn't be doing it, but you're doing it?
• 7:58
  Carmen Lezeth: But all your insides are like just, and I always listened to my instinct and I gave it a shot, know a shot.
• 8:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I've been doing this for four weeks and I'm like you know what I'm done four weeks out of the 12 weeks.
• 8:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like I'm out.
• 8:10
  Carmen Lezeth: At the beginning I was like, oh, okay, you have to do your business health and you have to fill out all the paperwork and you know you had to do all these time things.
• 8:19
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, okay, well, that's cool, I can do that.
• 8:21
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was getting up early or staying up late or whatever it was to do it and I was like, okay, this is fine, cause it's putting me in the process getting my business plan together, blah, blah, blah.
• 8:35
  Carmen Lezeth: But the next part?
• 8:35
  Carmen Lezeth: I just was like this is wrong.
• 8:36
  Rick Costa: Yeah, plus, when you've already spent and consumed so much time doing something, there's a part of you is like well, I already spent all this time, so I might as well finish and follow through, but then that stress is like but is it going to be worth?
• 8:49
  Rick Costa: That stress is going to cost me.
• 8:53
  Carmen Lezeth: And you know what?
• 8:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I wrote the email to disengage from it.
• 8:58
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
• 8:59
  Carmen Lezeth: I wrote the different emails.
• 9:00
  Carmen Lezeth: They don't care, there's so many people that don't give a shit.
• 9:05
  Carmen Lezeth: But I wanted to be professional or whatever, and the minute I sent it I felt like a whole other weight.
• 9:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like, okay, okay, that was the correct thing to do.
• 9:17
  Rick Costa: And that tells you that that's the correct thing to do.
• 9:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I know, but we still need money.
• 9:22
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: We will find it, we will find it, we will find it, we will find it.
• 9:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Oh really, someone out there is listening and we will find it.
• 9:33
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know what I mean, right.
• 9:36
  Rick Costa: I'm going to do a feel the streams.
• 9:38
  Rick Costa: No, feel the dreams.
• 9:40
  Rick Costa: If you stream it, they will come.
• 9:44
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They will come, come.
• 9:46
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I love that so good I love it.
• 9:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, if you stream it.
• 9:53
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, rick rick, with the creativity you've been holding that for a while.
• 9:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Huh, if you stream it, it will go.
• 10:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I just there.
• 10:05
  Carmen Lezeth: So many.
• 10:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I guess I started getting a little bit jealous because I'm watching so many people who are making money as content creators and they're horrible.
• 10:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm not trying to say I'm fabulous.
• 10:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I'm saying I'm at least as good as this person.
• 10:23
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean At least, but you have to.
• 10:28
  Carmen Lezeth: I think being a content creator is really really hard, and I'm not sure that's what I want to do either, but I'm going to try to do whatever I can so that we can bring in some money.
• 10:37
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 10:37
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm just shook at how hard things are sometimes and people don't seem to realize that because we don't talk about it.
• 10:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Are there things that you guys do that people don't realize how hard it is for you to do?
• 10:51
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, you don't have to share if you don't want to.
• 10:52
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, rick, you always talk about your mom and that's fine, we can talk about that.
• 10:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I do think that's really hard and I always stop you, not because I don't want you to talk about it, but because sometimes I don't want you to talk about it, but cause sometimes I I don't want you to use your mama's content.
• 11:05
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, like, so that's why I stopped you.
• 11:07
  Carmen Lezeth: But are there things that you guys do that people don't know that you struggle with and that you you know?
• 11:14
  Carmen Lezeth: like I just told everyone I just struggled with this and you know people think everything comes easy to me or whatever, and it doesn't nothing does Go ahead.
• 11:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia, cynthia, I felt.
• 11:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Getting up every day to go to work.
• 11:27
  Carmen Lezeth: That's your struggle.
• 11:28
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That is my struggle.
• 11:31
  Rick Costa: Nine to five grind.
• 11:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Wow, are you really hating work this much now?
• 11:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, it's not.
• 11:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's not.
• 11:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't hate.
• 11:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't hate the job.
• 11:40
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I wish management was better, but I don't hate the job.
• 11:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Do you think you've been there long enough now to make a determination?
• 11:54
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: This is better than the last one.
• 11:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They both have their differences.
• 11:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, exactly, really you couldn't wait to leave the other place.
• 12:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, no, and again, it was because of management was the reason why I left, and if it wasn't because of that I still would be there because I absolutely loved what I was doing.
• 12:11
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I had fun, you know, I enjoyed going every day, you know, and stuff like that, like I would work later or come in earlier if need be, or just because and this job it has, it has its moments and definitely has pros and cons.
• 12:25
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: It's different.
• 12:28
  Rick Costa: You need to be the manager.
• 12:30
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, maybe Would you want to be the manager.
• 12:33
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Probably not in healthcare.
• 12:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Are you done with healthcare?
• 12:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I think so Honestly.
• 12:43
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Today I said I need a career, not a job right now.
• 12:47
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: There's a big difference.
• 12:49
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: A career is something you absolutely love, it's something you worked hard for.
• 12:55
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: A job is a job.
• 12:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: A job pays your bills.
• 12:58
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You may not love it, you may like it here and there, but it's not what you want to do.
• 13:03
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I don't want.
• 13:03
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You may like it here and there, but it's not what you want to do.
• 13:06
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't want to go off of this, so I just get you to second.
• 13:11
  Carmen Lezeth: What would you want to do?
• 13:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Career wise.
• 13:16
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I mean like, like we've talked about before, I do want to still work with dead bodies, you know, still want to work with autopsies and things like that Cause.
• 13:25
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: That, to me, is interesting.
• 13:30
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I thought she was going to be like.
• 13:32
  Carmen Lezeth: I really do want to make my cards.
• 13:34
  Carmen Lezeth: You know I was thinking about my arts and crafts.
• 13:36
  Carmen Lezeth: So you still want to move now from pathology to dead people?
• 13:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Well it's still in the same in the same field, but honestly, like if it wasn't medical, I would want to like do either party planning or that, because that was my absolute like goal in the beginning was party planning.
• 13:57
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So, yeah, I know two totally different things.
• 14:01
  Rick Costa: I know what if the voice of God came down and said you will prosper tremendously if you do your card business.
• 14:11
  Rick Costa: Would you be like, okay, I'm going to drop everything and do that?
• 14:14
  Carmen Lezeth: What if she wants to do party planning?
• 14:18
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Just her hobby, the cards, yeah the cards, party planning yeah, I'd do it.
• 14:24
  Rick Costa: Any kind of party, wedding party.
• 14:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Any kind.
• 14:29
  Rick Costa: Wedding planner.
• 14:30
  Rick Costa: Is that same?
• 14:30
  Rick Costa: No, totally different.
• 14:32
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, yeah.
• 14:34
  Rick Costa: Because don't they make a pretty decent amount?
• 14:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, and weddings are expensive.
• 14:39
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So, yeah, you definitely make some money from that.
• 14:43
  Rick Costa: You better not screw it up.
• 14:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, exactly, I screw it up, right exactly.
• 14:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm shooketh, I'm shooketh.
• 14:48
  Carmen Lezeth: You haven't even been there a year yet.
• 14:50
  Carmen Lezeth: No, it's been a year, it's been a year On the 1st it was a year.
• 14:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh, July 1st.
• 14:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, cool, Rick.
• 14:59
  Carmen Lezeth: What about you?
• 15:02
  Rick Costa: Hmm, you know it's interesting because when I told y'all I started getting into this AI music creation, that kind of got me excited.
• 15:11
  Rick Costa: I'm like, hmm, I wonder if that's know my thing, maybe something music wise.
• 15:19
  Rick Costa: You know, I've written songs, I've sang songs, I've recorded songs.
• 15:22
  Rick Costa: Now this got me excited again.
• 15:23
  Rick Costa: So I'm like, could that be what I'm supposed to be doing, you know, as well as helping people and stuff, and you know I mean blah, blah, blah helping people blah blah, Even though I don't have.
• 15:37
  Rick Costa: I never went to school for that, but people could call me that.
• 15:39
  Carmen Lezeth: So Okay, but there's again, that's like her car, is like your hobby.
• 15:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, you know what?
• 15:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean Like I don't mean that in a mean way.
• 15:45
  Carmen Lezeth: I feel like that's just a part of who you are.
• 15:47
  Carmen Lezeth: You're gonna, you're going to do that anyways.
• 15:49
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, you think you'd want to get back into the music business.
• 15:54
  Rick Costa: I mean, I was never in the business, it was just.
• 15:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Why not?
• 15:56
  Carmen Lezeth: It sounds like you're in the business now.
• 16:00
  Rick Costa: It's a possibility I could.
• 16:02
  Rick Costa: Even my bestie was like why don't you put your stuff on Spotify?
• 16:05
  Rick Costa: You could make some money.
• 16:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Why not?
• 16:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody else is doing it.
• 16:10
  Rick Costa: Right.
• 16:12
  Carmen Lezeth: You never know, why are you not doing it?
• 16:18
  Rick Costa: I'm constantly tired.
• 16:19
  Rick Costa: I have so many things that I want to do, and then I get all excited I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, and then I'm like okay, I'm mentally exhausted, I'm physically exhausted.
• 16:30
  Carmen Lezeth: It's like okay, but you know it would be passive income.
• 16:34
  Carmen Lezeth: You've already created the song right, the first song.
• 16:37
  Carmen Lezeth: You've already created it.
• 16:38
  Carmen Lezeth: You've already done it right, you sang it on your phone.
• 16:40
  Rick Costa: I have actual songs, not AI songs too, so recorded.
• 16:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, but you know, okay, I have this podcast right, we have All About the Joy.
• 16:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I started another one, carmen Talk, real quick.
• 16:52
  Carmen Lezeth: You would be like it doesn't?
• 16:53
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like you have to go anywhere.
• 16:56
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not like you have to go anywhere.
• 16:58
  Carmen Lezeth: It's just really easy to put your music on Spotify.
• 16:59
  Carmen Lezeth: If it's done, you want me to send you a link how to do it.
• 17:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying it could be passive income.
• 17:06
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Hey, like you said to me, if God came down and said your mom is taken care of, everything else is taken care of, what would you do?
• 17:13
  Rick Costa: Exactly.
• 17:14
  Rick Costa: If I got a guarantee, then watch out.
• 17:16
  Rick Costa: Rick's going to care of what would you do Exactly?
• 17:18
  Carmen Lezeth: If I got a guarantee, then watch out, Boo out, the way Rick's going to be like Carmen.
• 17:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I can't be on All About the Joy anymore.
• 17:23
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know I'm, my song is number one.
• 17:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I know I'm very busy.
• 17:26
  Carmen Lezeth: My song is number one right now in the religious charts and blah, blah, blah.
• 17:29
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm going to be going here and there and I'm just too busy for all about the joy.
• 17:34
  Carmen Lezeth: How are you doing?
• 17:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Did you get that?
• 17:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Grant you doing okay?
• 17:43
  Rick Costa: Remember, I'm very loyal.
• 17:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, you're very loyal.
• 17:46
  Carmen Lezeth: You're very loyal, so okay.
• 17:49
  Carmen Lezeth: So when it comes to reputation, would you be afraid that?
• 17:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, for Rick, this is really interesting.
• 17:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Would you be afraid that if you took that leap and really interesting would you be afraid that if you took that leap and went on spotify and put your music out there that maybe nobody'd want to listen to it, would that bother you?
• 18:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Would that?
• 18:04
  Rick Costa: would that change anything in my current life?
• 18:07
  Rick Costa: No, nothing changes.
• 18:11
  Rick Costa: If nothing changes, nothing changes.
• 18:12
  Rick Costa: So would I be a little not happy about it.
• 18:15
  Rick Costa: Be like oh well, but nothing is like.
• 18:19
  Rick Costa: I'm at a point in life where only the important things matter.
• 18:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Well that's fair.
• 18:25
  Rick Costa: I just don't have time to deal with dreams and what ifs and da da da.
• 18:29
  Rick Costa: I need to pay for groceries.
• 18:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I know, but I dream all the time.
• 18:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I want to stop dreaming.
• 18:38
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Not everybody likes to say music, so I mean, oh yeah.
• 18:43
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean it's a religious music thing that he's doing, so I'm not going to listen to it.
• 18:46
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean I support you 100%.
• 18:50
  Rick Costa: I made a little outro now because the outro that I used to use it's literally on every single video was like a copyright free from youtube, blah, blah, blah.
• 18:58
  Rick Costa: And I'm like you know what I've seen where they say copyright free and then later they change their mind and then it's like you got to take down everything.
• 19:04
  Rick Costa: I'm like this is on every video.
• 19:05
  Rick Costa: So I used ai and made my own and it was just like a flamenco guitar and everybody's like I love that song.
• 19:12
  Rick Costa: That's really cool.
• 19:12
  Carmen Lezeth: So the beats I don't know what you mean, what are we talking about?
• 19:16
  Carmen Lezeth: So at the end of my videos I have an outro.
• 19:19
  Rick Costa: I have like an outro video and it's just music.
• 19:21
  Rick Costa: It just shows different pictures and music and I'm done.
• 19:25
  Rick Costa: Bye, everybody, love you, see you, bye.
• 19:26
  Rick Costa: And then the music plays and then that's it.
• 19:28
  Rick Costa: That's the end and.
• 19:30
  Rick Costa: No, supposedly YouTube says this is free to use, copyright free.
• 19:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Oh yeah, it is yeah.
• 19:36
  Rick Costa: So but I again, I've seen things that I've used, things that they said were, and then they, I guess, changed their mind and then all of a sudden, like copyright strike, like Whoa, whoa, wait a minute.
• 19:45
  Rick Costa: So I was like you know what, let me make my own and not to worry about that no more.
• 19:49
  Rick Costa: So I did and everybody's like oh, that's a really cool song.
• 19:52
  Rick Costa: I like this song.
• 19:52
  Rick Costa: It's very, you know, peppy kind of spin.
• 19:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, but when you say I'm going to, I'm going to mess with you here.
• 19:58
  Carmen Lezeth: When you say you made it yourself, you used a I who stole it from a flamenco, whatever guitar player See what I'm saying.
• 20:12
  Rick Costa: It creates it based on their database of all different types.
• 20:14
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick is so into his AI shit he don't want to embrace facts.
• 20:17
  Carmen Lezeth: It is stealing.
• 20:18
  Carmen Lezeth: This is look you know, I love me my AI the problem with AI in creation.
• 20:24
  Carmen Lezeth: That's why I want you to be careful about what you're saying too.
• 20:27
  Carmen Lezeth: It is stealing from creators, from other people, and not giving them credit, even though I know what you're saying.
• 20:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But it's actually not.
• 20:35
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not picking up a guitar and creating music for you.
• 20:39
  Carmen Lezeth: It is learning from all these different resources and none of those people are getting paid anything.
• 20:47
  Rick Costa: Right but the actual, just like using this as an example.
• 20:50
  Rick Costa: Is that exact song made that somebody else made and it just said I'm going to steal it?
• 20:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm sorry, what what?
• 20:57
  Rick Costa: the exact song that it created.
• 20:59
  Rick Costa: That's literally somebody's song that somebody made, and they just said, oh, I'm gonna swipe it from there and say it's ai.
• 21:04
  Rick Costa: Now, like I think it's still created, unique by ai, but influenced by but ai is not a human being to create anything.
• 21:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Ai will tell you itself that it can't create any like.
• 21:17
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not, it's not sentient, it can't create something.
• 21:21
  Carmen Lezeth: So what it does is it takes stuff and then it mashes it together to create something.
• 21:26
  Carmen Lezeth: We all do that, by the way.
• 21:28
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what we all do.
• 21:29
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean?
• 21:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, right, right.
• 21:31
  Carmen Lezeth: But what I'm saying is is you're worried about, so, let's say, cynthia wrote a song, she hummed a song or whatever, and she recorded it and she put it.
• 21:39
  Carmen Lezeth: And then she said this is free for anybody to use.
• 21:41
  Carmen Lezeth: And she said that it's royalty free, whatever, because she just wants people to know that Cynthia is a a great musician, hummer, person, right, because that's what a lot of people do, who give their music for free, because what they want is to have it used, and then maybe somebody will make it big, and then they'll you know what I mean.
• 21:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Like that's why I give them credit in the show notes or whatever that I think when they make it big.
• 22:03
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm just saying but what AI does is AI is like oh, I'll go into AI and say can you, I want a piece of poetry that talks about what it's like to make cards and work in a pathology lab.
• 22:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Can you get me any information on that?
• 22:20
  Carmen Lezeth: So AI goes and looks and is like oh, here is Cynthia.
• 22:24
  Carmen Lezeth: Cynthia works in a pathology lab, she's a creative person and she wrote a song and I'm going to extract things and then I'm going to add it from Bob over here, and now I'm going to add it from Bob over here and I'm going to, and now I'm going to create something else.
• 22:36
  Carmen Lezeth: The problem is, nobody is giving Cynthia or Bob or anybody else credit, nowhere.
• 22:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Co-pilot chat, gbt, gemini None of them are saying you know what, cynthia?
• 22:50
  Carmen Lezeth: We use your stuff to learn, so we want to give you some money or want to at least give you credit.
• 22:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying I think it would be.
• 22:57
  Carmen Lezeth: This is just how I'm feeling about it, because I'm trying as a person who actually writes and creates stuff that has nothing to do with AI.
• 23:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Even I know it went and took my book.
• 23:12
  Carmen Lezeth: It can easily go and take my book.
• 23:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I've asked it and it is yes, carmen wrote a.
• 23:15
  Carmen Lezeth: It says Carmen Lisette wrote a really good book, and here's what it's all about.
• 23:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm like motherfucker, you know what I mean.
• 23:21
  Carmen Lezeth: I read the whole book in like a minute or whatever, and it gives you a whole summary and it tells you all about it and it decides how good or bad it is, or whatever.
• 23:32
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm like did it create that summary all in it?
• 23:33
  Carmen Lezeth: No, it went and looked at Amazon and took other you whatever.
• 23:34
  Carmen Lezeth: And I'm like did it create that summary all in it?
• 23:36
  Carmen Lezeth: No, it went and looked at on Amazon and took other.
• 23:39
  Carmen Lezeth: You see what I'm saying?
• 23:40
  Carmen Lezeth: It went and took other people's stuff.
• 23:41
  Carmen Lezeth: It actually didn't figure it out on its own, whether it liked it or not.
• 23:45
  Carmen Lezeth: It's not actually human, you know.
• 23:47
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying the better way is to just look at it as that.
• 23:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Like when you just said that you're creating this Flamingo music or Flamingo Flamenco music, you're not.
• 24:02
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 24:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you're using AI, because unless you picked up a guitar and started doing it you see what I just.
• 24:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I just think it's fair to say that you're using AI and to just be on Cause I think that's how you're going to safeguard yourself in the future.
• 24:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Like when I did my business plan, I credited Copilot as helping me edit it.
• 24:24
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 24:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I'm not going to mess with that.
• 24:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't have it write it for me.
• 24:29
  Carmen Lezeth: But I did write stuff and then have it go in and fix grammatic, whatever, so it sounded more professional, whatever.
• 24:35
  Carmen Lezeth: So I, you, so I wrote that it was also AI helped edit this, whatever.
• 24:39
  Carmen Lezeth: I didn't write it that way.
• 24:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I actually asked Copilot how to write that.
• 24:44
  Carmen Lezeth: It's like a little thing at the bottom.
• 24:46
  Carmen Lezeth: But I'm not trying to push you down.
• 24:49
  Carmen Lezeth: I do think with AI it's going to be really difficult.
• 24:51
  Carmen Lezeth: And how do you safeguard your reputation so you don't look like you're cheating?
• 24:56
  Carmen Lezeth: That's what I keep thinking about.
• 24:59
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I don't want anyone to tell me that I'm cheating.
• 25:02
  Carmen Lezeth: In the same respects, I feel like AI is leveling the playing field because I don't have an editor.
• 25:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I've never had somebody who could help me.
• 25:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I've never had an assistant who can help me with all the different things I need help with.
• 25:16
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 25:17
  Carmen Lezeth: So again, I think you should use AI.
• 25:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I love AI, I'm a fan.
• 25:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I just think if you're going to do it and you're worried about actual people who have told you that it's royalty free or whatever, I would be more careful that people will question if you're actually creating something when actually all you're doing is prompting it.
• 25:41
  Rick Costa: Right, you're prompting it to do something and then it's creating it, right it's a tough one I've not shied away from saying, and when I did first tell people, oh, we got a new intro or outro, and I used AI like I didn't shy from that, I said it, you know.
• 25:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, I'll say this like Joel.
• 25:59
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys know Joel Joel sent me a thing, because he's going to help me direct my film, that I want to do my short Again out of the 95 things I'm going to do in the next year.
• 26:10
  Carmen Lezeth: But anyway, it's just a thought.
• 26:12
  Carmen Lezeth: But he sent me an AI thing where basically, you prompt it and it does the movie.
• 26:18
  Carmen Lezeth: And I was like, well, you know, I text him back.
• 26:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, well, I guess I won't be needing you then, so you're off the hook for being the director.
• 26:25
  Carmen Lezeth: And he was like I'm directing this film and I'm like I don't understand the concept.
• 26:30
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't understand the concept, I don't understand what this is.
• 26:32
  Carmen Lezeth: But I was just like I'm going to leave it alone.
• 26:34
  Carmen Lezeth: But how do you direct a film if I'm just going to input, like if I go into that prompt right, and it's a I think it's Google that's created this new you've seen this right when you just go in and prompt it.
• 26:51
  Carmen Lezeth: So if I go in and say I could direct it because I know what I want, you know what I mean, but is that really me directing?
• 27:04
  Carmen Lezeth: He seems to think he still needs to direct.
• 27:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, bitch, I can prompt the shit myself.
• 27:07
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't need you now.
• 27:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Does that mean I'm Steven Spielberg?
• 27:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't need you now.
• 27:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Does that mean I'm Steven Spielberg?
• 27:14
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think so.
• 27:15
  Carmen Lezeth: We're in an interesting place.
• 27:18
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean, and I don't even know if I want to do it that way.
• 27:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I think what's going to happen is because of AI and so much technology.
• 27:25
  Carmen Lezeth: I think people are going to want the real stuff.
• 27:29
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, yeah.
• 27:31
  Rick Costa: What if we have a huge shift to everything, becomes so much AI and people start to say you know what?
• 27:39
  Rick Costa: There's some, I know it seems really real, but I missed the real.
• 27:44
  Carmen Lezeth: I think the thing about AI whenever we watch it like when I watched Star Trek next generation you know they're in space, they can't go to the beach and so to keep the crew sane, it makes sense that there's this computer and the holodeck and this ability to create things so that you can try to take a walk on the beach or whatever it is, or get help and assistance and whatever.
• 28:08
  Carmen Lezeth: So that makes sense.
• 28:09
  Carmen Lezeth: But I think what's going to happen I think I'm already kind of seeing it is that people are going to be craving to be in situations where they're actually in real life again.
• 28:20
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think that's a bad thing.
• 28:22
  Carmen Lezeth: I think that's an actual good thing.
• 28:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Look at even Sinners, the movie Sinners.
• 28:25
  Carmen Lezeth: God, we're all over the place with this show today.
• 28:28
  Carmen Lezeth: Show today Ryan Coogler.
• 28:32
  Carmen Lezeth: He went back old school filming that.
• 28:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, you saw all the background on that.
• 28:38
  Carmen Lezeth: He went back with old school film and shit.
• 28:40
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't even know what it all means, but I was intrigued when he could have just easily used whatever the digitized version of it all is.
• 28:51
  Rick Costa: Giving old music, bringing old music into it, yeah, so I think, it's going to bring about it.
• 28:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: New is not always better.
• 29:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Interesting.
• 29:01
  Carmen Lezeth: Or maybe it's technology is not always better.
• 29:04
  Carmen Lezeth: That too, yeah, I think AI has a bad reputation.
• 29:10
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: I mean, think about it, the movie Hidden Figures like she was a genius in math and they're trying to use all this new math and what ended up happening?
• 29:21
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: She went back to the old math to find these figures, to get this man to land correctly.
• 29:26
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: So, like I said, new is not always better.
• 29:29
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Sometimes you have to go back.
• 29:33
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, and how do we bring this back to reputation?
• 29:37
  Carmen Lezeth: How do you bring it back?
• 29:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, no, no, I do.
• 29:41
  Carmen Lezeth: I do think AI has a bad reputation.
• 29:43
  Carmen Lezeth: That's an easy segue.
• 29:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Actually, you know, I love AI.
• 29:48
  Carmen Lezeth: I think it's going to be used more as a tool, but then there are people who are just scaring the hell out of everybody, saying that it's going to be worse.
• 29:54
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't know, I don't know how to end this segment.
• 29:56
  Carmen Lezeth: You guys don't make this easy for me.
• 29:59
  Rick Costa: A lot of this always happens in the Christian world.
• 30:02
  Rick Costa: Whenever something new comes out, oh, this is going to be the Antichrist, this is going to be a tool of the Antichrist.
• 30:08
  Rick Costa: So now it's AI that's going to be the tool of the Antichrist.
• 30:11
  Rick Costa: I'm so tired of y'all.
• 30:13
  Rick Costa: Everything new is the Antichrist.
• 30:17
  Carmen Lezeth: What does the Antichrist mean for those of us who are not Christians or atheists or whatever?
• 30:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Listening to the show.
• 30:23
  Rick Costa: He's going to be like a world leader that rises up and seemingly brings peace to all the world, but then all of a sudden he's going to be like psych and cause complete havoc and try to kill everybody.
• 30:33
  Rick Costa: The devil.
• 30:36
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Basically Sort of yeah.
• 30:39
  Carmen Lezeth: If your reputation was wiped clean tomorrow, what would you do differently?
• 30:47
  Rick Costa: I don't think I'd do anything differently.
• 30:50
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah.
• 30:51
  Rick Costa: I is who I is and always will be.
• 30:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know if I would do anything differently.
• 30:57
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, I think if you live authentically and you do the best you can every day, that's all you got.
• 31:03
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't have any major skeletons in my closet that I would want to go back and fix or change.
• 31:08
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm being serious Like I don't know of any.
• 31:11
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, like some people have some bad stuff.
• 31:13
  Carmen Lezeth: It ruins their reputation.
• 31:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I did background checks on YouTube so I know no, I'm just kidding Whose opinion actually matters to you and why?
• 31:24
  Carmen Lezeth: My husband and my kids.
• 31:26
  Carmen Lezeth: That's it.
• 31:27
  Carmen Lezeth: My opinion doesn't matter of you, Eh?
• 31:30
  Carmen Lezeth: No, your husband and your kids.
• 31:37
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Okay, rick.
• 31:39
  Rick Costa: Ultimately sorry to say.
• 31:42
  Rick Costa: God, not sorry to say, but how did you say that?
• 31:46
  Rick Costa: No, I know.
• 31:48
  Carmen Lezeth: This isn't an atheist podcast.
• 31:50
  Carmen Lezeth: You can never mention God.
• 31:54
  Rick Costa: I'm all about the joy Ever you ask me how I feel I got to tell you the truth.
• 31:58
  Rick Costa: And then, other than that, my family and close friends, other than that, again, y'all don't pay my bills, so I don't care what you think about me.
• 32:05
  Rick Costa: Really, I mean, I want you to think nice things.
• 32:08
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I care.
• 32:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I care about my reputation.
• 32:11
  Carmen Lezeth: I do, I know I know.
• 32:13
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I mean I don't care if you don't like me, but I care that the reason why you don't like me is because I'm being my authentic self and you can't handle it.
• 32:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you know what I mean?
• 32:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I, does that make sense?
• 32:25
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I know we're not supposed, like it's so funny, right, and I'm not saying you guys, but everyone does that.
• 32:31
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't care what people think about me and then they're talking about it for 25 minutes, but what she did, let me tell you.
• 32:38
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like, if you care, we wouldn't be having this conversation.
• 32:42
  Carmen Lezeth: You know, Like I care what people think of me and I think it doesn't bother me if people don't like me, if the reason why they don't like me is because they don't understand or they're being ridiculous.
• 33:00
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:01
  Carmen Lezeth: If I do something unintentionally and I hurt someone that matters to me.
• 33:07
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:08
  Carmen Lezeth: I do care if I hurt somebody or I do something unintentionally, so I do care what other people think.
• 33:10
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 33:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I do care if I hurt somebody or I do something unintentionally, that, so I do care what other people think you know what I mean.
• 33:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I think there's a lot of these things in our heads that we've come to believe and I don't think it's actually true.
• 33:22
  Carmen Lezeth: It sounds nice, but I don't think it's actually true.
• 33:24
  Carmen Lezeth: I think we all care.
• 33:26
  Carmen Lezeth: We're social beings.
• 33:28
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Yeah, as we just say, like I told you, it was a year that I started my job and what I did was I actually emailed two of the doctors I work with and I said you know, it's been a year since I started and I wanted to get your feedback on my work.
• 33:42
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know?
• 33:45
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: No, they were actually really good they both said I'm doing a great job and and so I mean, in a way, you know, even though you say you may not care, some people may say that they don't care.
• 33:56
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: They do care you know whether they're doing a good job.
• 33:59
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: You know with work or at home, or with their friends, people do care.
• 34:03
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, I think when we talk about not caring what people think, it's actually been morphed into something different.
• 34:12
  Carmen Lezeth: I think what we mean is people who don't matter to us, people who are people we don't want in our lives or, like you said, people who don't pay my bills Okay, those people who don't care about.
• 34:21
  Carmen Lezeth: But in the big scheme of things, like especially if you watch people on Tik TOK, like big time creators who then make one mistake and everyone's hating on them or whatever you know what I mean, like and I you know, I don't know what some of these people do, but I'm like well, they did, they made one mistake and they hate them forever and then the then the creator has a choice.
• 34:44
  Carmen Lezeth: They can either apologize or, you know, own the mistake and move on, or they can stand in the bullshittery and make it so much worse.
• 34:52
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you guys know, own the mistake and move on, or they can stand in the bullshittery and make it so much worse.
• 34:54
  Carmen Lezeth: Do you guys know who the hat lady is?
• 34:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, the hat lady, she's cuban and she had a huge following.
• 35:02
  Carmen Lezeth: I mean, she still has a huge following, especially compared to me.
• 35:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I have nobody.
• 35:05
  Carmen Lezeth: I love the people who follow me.
• 35:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying like, um, but she came across as somebody who really cared about, you know, latinos and everything that's happening, especially with politics that's going on, and you know a lot of these ICE abduction things that are happening with so many migrants and immigrants and whatever.
• 35:27
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm totally going to mess up the story a little bit, but the gist is still important.
• 35:31
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't going to mess up the story a little bit, but the gist is still important.
• 35:32
  Carmen Lezeth: So I don't mean to lie.
• 35:33
  Carmen Lezeth: She was talking about how ICE raided a massage parlor and the massage parlor, clearly for people on the audio, has happy endings.
• 35:44
  Carmen Lezeth: Let's just put it that way.
• 35:45
  Carmen Lezeth: Everyone knows what that means.
• 35:46
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, the massage parlor was full of Asian women and all of these women got taken by ice or whatever.
• 35:53
  Carmen Lezeth: And this Latina woman who seems to be an advocate and whatever and seems to be, you know, against ice or whatever, was laughing about that and saying, well, that's good, that place should be shut down because it's it's not a really good massage parlor.
• 36:07
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what kind of massage and those women needed to be, and she went on a tangent about it and I remember watching it being like what is wrong with this woman?
• 36:16
  Carmen Lezeth: Anyway, long story short.
• 36:19
  Carmen Lezeth: She's gotten so much from other big creators as well, backlash from the whole thing because her whole reputation has just been shot, not because she made the mistake right.
• 36:30
  Carmen Lezeth: She made a mistake.
• 36:32
  Carmen Lezeth: What she didn't realize and what other, especially Asian, big time creators were telling her is a lot of those women are sex trafficked into this country and they have to pay off their bill before they're let go to try to get a job in the United States, and they are going through the same thing that these other immigrants are going through here in this country.
• 36:56
  Carmen Lezeth: And you chose a lot of them.
• 36:57
  Carmen Lezeth: So do you think she was like oh my God, I made a mistake.
• 37:01
  Carmen Lezeth: I know she fucking doubled down.
• 37:05
  Carmen Lezeth: She doubled down and then she started going after the big time creators who pointed this shit out to her.
• 37:15
  Carmen Lezeth: So now everyone me too I did a video this morning and I couldn't take it in my mouth, but it's this kind of thing, like she just ruined her reputation and now what I realize is that maybe who I thought she was all along was not really true.
• 37:31
  Carmen Lezeth: Because that's what happens when you mess with your reputation.
• 37:34
  Carmen Lezeth: Right Like now I realize, like wait a minute, I was supporting her, and I don't mean financially, but I was, you know, watching her, I was following her, whatever.
• 37:42
  Carmen Lezeth: And now I realize she was always anti everyone else except her people.
• 37:48
  Carmen Lezeth: No, no, I'm, I'm not only anti everyone who hurts people who are Black and Latina.
• 37:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 37:58
  Carmen Lezeth: They must be that mix.
• 37:59
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I am anti anyone hurting anyone else.
• 38:05
  Carmen Lezeth: Period, Yep With a T.
• 38:09
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 38:10
  Carmen Lezeth: So she ruined her reputation.
• 38:13
  Carmen Lezeth: She lost so many fun.
• 38:14
  Carmen Lezeth: She lost me like within a minute.
• 38:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I couldn't believe what I was.
• 38:16
  Carmen Lezeth: I was like she did not just say that and I went back and checked Is this the?
• 38:20
  Carmen Lezeth: Maybe I'm following the wrong person?
• 38:22
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me just see.
• 38:25
  Rick Costa: I think I saw something too with a girl that she also just totally ruined her reputation, also just totally ruined her reputation.
• 38:34
  Rick Costa: You probably heard about this where she this she convinced this little older woman who was a little bit mentally impaired to go into the ocean and she said I'll give you 20 if you jump into the ocean not even knowing if she could swim or not, and she couldn't.
• 38:43
  Rick Costa: And then they're like oh that's a big time tick tocker right she must be, and then she had.
• 38:51
  Rick Costa: She went to some place to like say hi to the fans, and nobody showed up yeah, yeah, that's I.
• 38:56
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know her name, but that that's a really big deal because she used her platform and then abused it.
• 39:04
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, because the woman could have died yeah, wow, it was really, really bad.
• 39:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't and that that to me.
• 39:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Here's the thing the hat lady woman, she's older like, she's older than I am Like, and I'm like I don't think you were an adult, you should know better.
• 39:21
  Carmen Lezeth: Like even in your initial like, cause I watched her say it, it wasn't like I you know what I mean.
• 39:26
  Carmen Lezeth: Like I watched her say this thing and I remember being like what is wrong with this woman?
• 39:30
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, does she not know that these women now have been caged somewhere?
• 39:35
  Carmen Lezeth: Like, what are you doing?
• 39:36
  Carmen Lezeth: And and like just to one more, one more thing that pissed me off, cause I just have to say this I don't know why people get mad at quote, unquote, let's just say prostitutes or women of the night or whatever.
• 39:49
  Carmen Lezeth: How come you don't get mad at the johns or the like that's who just gets me so angry?
• 39:57
  Carmen Lezeth: You know what I mean.
• 39:58
  Carmen Lezeth: Like you get mad at the wrong people.
• 40:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Why are you getting mad at the victims who are trying to make a living and shouldn't, in this fucking country, have to be doing this kind of work anyway?
• 40:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Okay, that, let me just.
• 40:09
  Carmen Lezeth: Let me just back up.
• 40:11
  Carmen Lezeth: Yes, that content creator who I don't know what her name is.
• 40:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't follow her, but I saw that no one showed up and she had like a greet and meet because she was trying to re-establish herself again because she had made this huge mistake and did what she did and nobody showed up.
• 40:26
  Carmen Lezeth: But then I thought it was also bad that people went in there and were like take you know showing, ha ha, take you know showing video of no one showing up.
• 40:33
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm like okay, because now you're getting clicks and money for making fun of somebody who's clearly hurting.
• 40:39
  Carmen Lezeth: No matter what someone does, if you're really a good person, it's not that you wish ill will on them.
• 40:46
  Carmen Lezeth: You wish for them to learn a lesson and move forward, but you don't then turn around and make money off of them.
• 40:52
  Carmen Lezeth: But everybody's always making money off of somebody.
• 40:54
  Carmen Lezeth: I saw that though.
• 40:57
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, okay, the only opinion that matters to me is all of my audience.
• 41:03
  Carmen Lezeth: No, I'm just kidding, we got to close out with that.
• 41:08
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, no, I think opinions of other people matter to us because we're social beings.
• 41:10
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 41:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Yeah, no, I think opinions of other people matter to us because we're social beings.
• 41:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
• 41:17
  Carmen Lezeth: But, like Rick said, if they ain't paying the bills, you don't need to cry about it, you know.
• 41:22
  Carmen Lezeth: But, okay, well, thank you for that, guys.
• 41:26
  Carmen Lezeth: That was an all over the place joyful Sunday conversation.
• 41:32
  Carmen Lezeth: That started with reputation and I guess we'll end with reputation and Cynthia, thank you, you're going to find us some money Very excited, leaving that.
• 41:40
  Carmen Lezeth: Now I just need.
• 41:42
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm looking for $80,000.
• 41:44
  Rick Costa: So if you could do that, all I got to do is write a hit song, and then we're good to go.
• 41:51
  Carmen Lezeth: Rick you can just go and put a little note that AI helped you, what credits do and you know what.
• 42:00
  Carmen Lezeth: Can I just finalize something with that?
• 42:02
  Carmen Lezeth: Everybody is struggling with this and I'm not saying that my opinion is the right one.
• 42:06
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying everybody is struggling with this right now.
• 42:09
  Carmen Lezeth: I'm just saying this whole thing like are you actually creating something if you're using AI?
• 42:15
  Carmen Lezeth: I don't know.
• 42:17
  Carmen Lezeth: Right, I say no, but you know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know If somebody's editing your guitar, making that's different.
• 42:27
  Rick Costa: Yeah, I have to turn it over with the actual songs that I'm doing, and the last one I did I wrote the lyrics myself, so at least I can say that much.
• 42:36
  Carmen Lezeth: This is my song.
• 42:36
  Carmen Lezeth: No, that's for sure.
• 42:37
  Carmen Lezeth: I think that's for sure, that's for sure.
• 42:40
  Rick Costa: And it was a song about grief and I sent it to certain people that I know are in it and they were like that was so beautiful and, yes, I cried.
• 42:46
  Rick Costa: I was like I just want to see a good song so beautiful.
• 42:50
  Rick Costa: Are you going to sing it for?
• 42:54
  Carmen Lezeth: us?
• 42:54
  Carmen Lezeth: No, all right.
• 42:55
  Carmen Lezeth: Well, everyone, thank you so much.
• 42:56
  Carmen Lezeth: Remember we're here on Friday nights at 6 pm Pacific, 9 pm Eastern, always here on Sundays.
• 43:03
  Carmen Lezeth: We're so grateful for you to join us at 12 pm Pacific, 3 pm Eastern.
• 43:09
  Carmen Lezeth: My brain is not working.
• 43:12
  Carmen Lezeth: Have a great rest of your week and remember, at the end of the day, it really is all about the joy, all about the joy.
• 43:19
  Cynthia Ruiz Lopez: Bye, everybody, bye.
• 43:23
  Carmen Lezeth: Thanks for stopping by.
• 43:24
  Carmen Lezeth: All About the Joy Be better and stay beautiful.
• 43:27
  Carmen Lezeth: Folks have a sweet day.