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PODCAST: Episode 895 - Jude Bennett of Beyond Extinction Talks Death Metal and Their Debut Album "Where They Gather" · Ghost Cult Magazine Podcast

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  The thing that will always drive our band forward in whatever
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  direction we go is just the idea of having a groove in the song.
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  Having a groove, emotion, a, you know, a momentum in the song is
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  essential for us. And I think you listen to the
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  album, even if you're not musically minded, you'll find
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  yourself hooking into a groove in a certain song.
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  Or yeah, at least I do. The The big change for us on
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  writing for this album, especially myself, is knowing
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  when to let a section go on a bit longer.
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  Do you want someone to really look into this section or do you
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  want it to just be a quick little thing and then bring it
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  back? And, and it all comes down to
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  the journey really, that that's what we really wrote this for.
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  What's up everybody? It's Kifi at ghostcoldmag.com.
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  I am super stoked to be joined by Jude from Beyond Extinction.
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  How are you doing today? I'm doing absolutely fantastic.
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  Good to be with you. Oh mate, absolutely fantastic.
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  I love it so much. So you have a debut album out
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  right now where they gather all the cool things, heavy and
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  brutal, but modern sounding and so much fun.
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  I know there's not a lot of fun metal releases issue that really
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  leave you, you know, the some of the best music that's, you know,
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  extreme is also brings joy. I don't know why that is, but
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  that's me brings joy to my little blackened heart.
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  But as we're, you know, we're just getting to know each other
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  here. Tell us a little bit about, you
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  know, what led you to this moment debut album.
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  How did your band form? What are your influences?
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  If somebody was a unfamiliar with your band and watching the
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  channel, what would you want them to know about the band?
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  So um, we are a deaf metal band from roughly from London, Essex.
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  More on the Essex side in England.
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  We formed in late 2018, when we're all teenagers, and we've
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  slowly blossomed into a hideous flower of disgustingness.
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  We are made of myself, Danny, are of a guitarist, Jasper a
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  vocalist and now our drummer. And yeah, we kind of combine the
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  kind of more modern sounds of deathcore with more sludgier,
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  slightly proggier, slightly more industrial kind of sounds of the
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  metal landscape. And our aim is just to create
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  the most rancid music possible, really.
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  But do it in a way that's kind of, you know, accessible and,
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  you know, your grandma might might think it's kind of sweet
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  in a way, but it's also like just horrible.
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  So that that's probably the best way I can describe us.
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  Amazing. A former writer of ours who's
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  unfortunately passed away a few years ago, Paul, you kind of
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  coined the phrase internally for us.
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  If a band was horrible, it was great and you know, they're just
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  horrible sounding and we would all be like, yes, that's what we
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  want, horrible sounding bands, but in the best possible way.
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  So I love that for you and I love that from such a killer
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  record. You know, I think the deathcore
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  influence is super interesting. Obviously we've seen like a
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  whole evolution of the genre in the last 25 years really.
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  Even pre modern deathcore, they were sort of like underground
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  death metal and hardcore bands that were kind of blending what
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  became deathcore together. And I like when it's deathcore
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  plus deathcore with other stuff. There's definitely some
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  masterful bands doing like the best deathcore.
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  But I like deathcore plus sludge, like you said, like
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  deathcore plus progressive metal, you know, other kinds of
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  things, you know, melted in. Who would you say are a bunch of
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  bands you all agree on or disagree on?
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  You know, it's really interesting because another
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  great way to sum the band up is fussy.
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  So we're all really fussy and particular with stuff.
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  So there are a lot of bands that we are like, now that's like
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  your kind of music or I don't like that or whatever.
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  But then there's a couple bands that we're all like, yeah,
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  they're awesome. So Black Tongue is 1 Black
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  Tongue is probably probably my biggest guitar influence for for
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  Beyond Extinction. Meshuggar as well, which I feel
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  like is kind of cheating because most metal, modern metal
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  guitarists will be like, I love Meshuggar, like I'm really
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  special. But you know, it is they're just
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  so influential and legendary. You can't not take some of what
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  they did and and run with it. Other than that, probably the
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  other one I'd say is The Acacia Strain.
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  So kind of finding ways to do really in true precise death
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  metal, but make it a bit more lively and I don't know, just
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  inject that little special something into it.
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  It's really hard to kind of nail down our sound because I feel
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  like we, we don't fit squarely in any box.
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  But then we we seem to appeal to a load of different people who
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  like different stuff, which I I think is good.
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  So I just say that we're us, you know, and I know every bands
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  like, you know, we can't, we don't have a label put on us,
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  bro. We're so like out there.
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  And but, you know, it's the only way I can kind of say it without
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  sounding too pretentious. But, you know, I think if you
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  like the kind of bands that we like that we brought into it,
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  you'll kind of hear our influences coming in, but at the
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  same rate. I think there's that sweet spot
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  that we all aim to write towards that when you get there, it's
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  like, yeah, that's bionic section.
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  That's our sound. So yeah, I've been rambling for
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  so long I forgot what you're. You're you're good.
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  No, that was great. Thank you.
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  Yeah, Ramble on. This is your interview also.
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  It's not just me. It's.
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  Terrible you wish for. Hey now, I mean, I'm, I'm known
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  to ramble, so you rambling keeps me from rambling.
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  How about that? You know, fairpoint about my
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  sugar everybody. I mean, you know, when they have
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  such a genre defying a band, not just a genre defining band, but
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  a band that makes their own genre.
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  Obviously we all follow in their wake, but I love the Casey
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  Strain. I lived in Boston for quite a
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  long time before they were a big band, and their new record is so
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  killer. I can't wait for people to hear
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  this thing. I interviewed Devin again for
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  that record coming up soon. And it's just a beast, really
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  is, no pun intended. And yeah, man, it's, you know,
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  it's always interesting, especially, you know, we have
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  this kind of wealth of music now.
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  On one hand, I love Spotify and the availability of music.
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  On the other hand, I would like to see you all get paid more and
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  actually paid for what you created properly.
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  It's really hard for young bands, but at the same time, you
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  know, it's very cool to see new ideas and and keeping the genre
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  fresh. It's important to have new ideas
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  and not to be scared to do different things than the same
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  things other people do. So I really applaud the the
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  ingenuity behind some of this stuff and a lot of it is the
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  guitar Workman. You guys have killer, a killer
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  guitar sound and just a killer sound in general.
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  Thank you very much. We spent a lot of time, you
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  know, Danny joined the band sort of towards the end of the album
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  writing process. So for most of it, I was picking
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  up from old demos and, and writing new stuff.
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  So, you know, most of the stuff on the album is, is my guitar
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  work. So, you know, I thank you for
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  the compliment. I, I spend a lot of time
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  thinking about, sometimes even before the final product is, is
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  ready, you know, how, how is someone going to listen to this?
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  What, how do I want the guitar to sound?
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  How do I want the tones to kind of combine?
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  I spend a lot of time thinking, thinking about the, the, the
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  listeners perspective because I can write, you know, we can
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  write all day and, and we have our preferences for stuff.
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  But a lot of the finer details of the album in terms of the
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  tone and the distortion on some bits and the, the length of the
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  reverb for some bits. You know, we were very
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  particular in terms of it must sound like this.
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  And I and I had that vision in my head of I need it to sound
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  like this because that will mean it's had its full potential.
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  So, you know, it definitely is an album that hopefully you can
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  hear the kind of intricacy that's gone into it because, you
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  know, our music is brutal, but it's also very carefully
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  planned. So, you know, it's.
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  Yeah, I suppose it's like, I don't know, it's probably an
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  awful analogy, but suppose it's like a wrestling match in that
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  it's kind of like it looks really painful and brutal, but
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  actually it's like very well choreographed.
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  But unfortunately we we, we didn't feature Dwayne the Rock
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  Johnson on our album so. Right, no secret self-inflicted
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  injuries when no one's looking. Got the razor blade under the
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  wristband, cut the forehead. Yeah, I think that's actually a
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  very good analogy. And again, it's it's super cool
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  to see, you know, how things have coalesced.
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  And I imagine the next record will be more even more
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  collaborative and and the feature everybody a little bit
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  more evenly. Oh, absolutely.
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  I mean, Danny brought with him Winter Sun.
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  He wrote that song entirely himself.
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  And we kind of listened to it and it was like, Jesus Christ,
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  this just fits into the album. And we really didn't have to do.
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  I think the only thing we did was pitch down the end and it
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  was like, yeah, this is this fits.
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  So we got very lucky in in bringing Danny into the band and
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  you know, he's got a lot of similar influences to us, but
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  also the big strength that we have in the band is that we have
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  different influences. Not all of us like the same
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  music. So it's not all just I feel like
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  if you if you're a death metal band that's made-up of four or
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  five guys who who primarily like death metal and kind of live and
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  breathe it, you might write some really good death metal, but are
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  you really going to push the envelope a bit?
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  Whereas I think, you know, a lot of the stuff we do.
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  I mean, I'm a massive prog guy first and foremost.
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  You know, my favorite bands are, you know, other than like the
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  heavy stuff like my sugar, like Tesseract, Mastodon and, you
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  know, stuff like that tool. So I definitely approach it from
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  that kind of position. And and, you know, Jasper
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  approaches it from more of a straight deathcore angle.
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  And Niles definitely got a bit of a groovy jazz flair to his
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  playing, especially if you're, you know, to all the drummers
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  out there, if you listen to a lot of the a lot of the feels
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  and the bits in in the drumming, like Niall was a beast.
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  Like he, he really, he really played for the songs so well on
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  the album. And he really could have just
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  like chased all over it of like feels and going crazy.
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  But he he really kept it tasteful.
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  And and you know, there are moments where he really shines
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  on the album, but you know, you can really hear in in some of
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  his feels and stuff. He's got that little bit of a
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  flair and it just it adds so much.
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  I mean, when we're writing and when I'm writing, you know, I'll
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  put really badly, you know, crap program drums on just to get an
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  idea. And then he'll come in and just
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  rewrite it. And it's like, yes, this is how
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  I wanted it to sound. This is just brought it to life.
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  So I feel like I haven't big Null up enough in these
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  interviews so far. So I love vinyl.
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  You're the best drummer in the world.
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  Oh, that's lovely. We don't get enough of that on
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  our interviews. I hope everybody shouts out
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  their bandmates. Yeah, incredible stuff.
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  And I'm a big jazz nerd. I also get the Tool influence in
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  the guitar work. And I was also going to say, I
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  don't know if you ever listened to After the Burial, which
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  obviously you know, is like a guitar, you know, a guitar
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  players band, if that makes sense.
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  I feel like you have some stuff in common where they're like
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  straddling death metal, deathcore and Prague all
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  together. And I feel like you guys can
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  evolve into that or are heading that way probably.
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  Musically, we generally did do. It with your next to be honest,
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  we've already got some stuff in motion.
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  We never sit still very long. So I think the main thing for us
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  is, is that the thing that will always drive our band forward in
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  whatever direction we go is just the idea of having a groove in
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  the song. Having a groove, emotion, a, you
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  know, a momentum in the song is essential for us.
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  And I think you listen to the album, even if you're not
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  musically minded, you'll find yourself hooking into a groove
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  in a certain song. Or yeah, at least I do.
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  The the big change for us on writing for this album,
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  especially myself, is knowing when to letter section go on a
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  bit longer to go. Do you want someone to really
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  look into this section or do you want it to just be a quick
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  little thing and then bring it back.
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  And it all comes down to the journey really that that's what
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  we really wrote this for the journey of like in a song.
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  OK, what would someone expect to come next?
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  Can we, is it good to subvert it or do we payout or?
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  Yeah, it's AI feel like we've got a lot more mature in terms
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  of how we write and and I think hopefully you can hear that
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  across the album in terms of it's very deliberate in in how
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  we do our transitions and how we where we put the track listing
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  in the in that order. So yeah, I just hope that comes
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  across. Yeah, right on.
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  I presume you did the bass on the record.
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  Was it a joint effort or was it just you solo?
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  Bad time to drink, sorry. No, you got it.
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  Man, so Danny did the bass for Winter Sun and I believe he did
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  the base for Mansions Burning on Bleak Horizons.
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  That's the only song on album that me and Danny wrote
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  completely 5050, and it's one of my favorites actually.
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  So that's a good sign of things to come.
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  But yeah, I did all the rest of the base on the album, and
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  you're the first person to mention base actually, which is
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  good. We have the credits, we know
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  what the, you know, the main instruments are.
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  I just yeah, you know, a very solid job and you know, it
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  doesn't need to do, you know, we're not talking about, you
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  know, death here. We can just Crystal Mountain
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  death here or Cannibal Corpse. It can be, you know, straight up
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  and but just needs to do its job.
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  You know, when to be, when to I play bass.
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  So when to not play and when to play right?
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  When to drop in and out? Yeah, for the bass, I think it's
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  always something that I'm very like conscious of and something
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  that as a guitarist, I feel like guitarists really have to pay
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  attention to the bass, what the bass is doing, especially when
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  it comes to putting a song together because you can write
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  wrists and you know, but you know, you know, we don't have a
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  dedicated bass player. So it is always me coming up
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  with bass parts. And I suppose when I'm thinking
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  of a bit a song in general, I'm thinking, OK, where the drums
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  hitting, what's the guitar doing?
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  Can I do you know, quick stuff to follow the kick drum or can I
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  keep it open to isolate the kick drum and, and just again, a part
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  of that journey? So I'm glad you mentioned it.
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  And there's something that I'm glad you mentioned the bass as
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  well, because there's something that I've been wanting to talk
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  about, but no one's asked me about it.
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  So something that I've done on the album.
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  This might be one of these things where like, you know, I
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  reinvent the wheel or something like someone else has already
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  done it. But with the particular tuning
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  that we're in, we're in double drop D for most of the stuff.
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  And then there's a couple songs like Earth Merck, The End of the
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  Mines Tyranny where it's double drop B.
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  So we have the bass in just basically drop D or drop B.
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  But something that I do all of the album I wrote on five string
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  bass, even the ones that are in double drop D.
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  So basically the bass is tuned ADADG.
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  So I have a low A that I can use when I want to kind of emphasize
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  it. And a couple of the risks we
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  have that, you know, we have risks that start with an A with
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  the low A on the guitar as well. And it just helps to kind of
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  make it lower and and more horrible and stuff.
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  But a couple of the things that I've done, when we have like a
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  dissonant chord on the guitar right at the end for a double
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  drop D song, instead of just playing the D on the bass, I
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  actually play the low A. So you get basically just
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  horrible rumble at the bottom because you can't really, you
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  can't really make out what the guitars playing.
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  It just sounds like A. So by having that low A
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  underneath, it creates maybe the illusion that it's lower tuned
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  than it is, so it sounds even more.
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  Just wanted to mention that really.
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  Yeah, that's fantastic. Thanks.
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  I'm glad I asked and I'm glad you expanded upon that.
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  You know, I do want to shout out Jasper.
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  I think a lot of vocal performances can be pretty
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  pedestrian these days. And, you know, young bands are
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  still trying to grow at their sound and establish themselves.
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  But I really like the vocal performance here because it's
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  not just one of the things that's kind of lost a little bit
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  I think of late is phrasing and and tone.
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  So not only, like, you know, obviously everybody gets excited
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  about, you know, horrible, brutal, guttural lows, but I
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  like that Jasper has a range. And I like the phrasing from
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  like, song to song, line to line, where he won't, you know,
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  you want to be understood. If you're singing about these
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  apocalyptic themes and these, you know, catastrophic ideas,
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  you want to be understood. I think there'd be a purpose for
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  it, right? Yeah.
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  And, you know, it's funny you say that because there are some
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  bands that, you know, there, there might be amazing bands,
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  but, you know, you know, I think Jasper's done such a good job on
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  the album of just being really clear.
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  And, you know, he has his moments where he's like, you
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  know, but I think because the whole thing's not like that,
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  it's kind of a bit like, Oh yeah, he's like, you know,
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  digging down to like the nuts to get that tone, you know?
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  So, yeah. But I, I know from from talking
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  to Jasper about how he approached the the album vocally
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  that he really prides himself on being working on his
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  Annunciation and, and making sure that he says stuff a
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  certain way. Because I feel like, you know,
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  it adds so much more of an impact when you can hear someone
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  say a particular word. And, and yeah, I feel like he
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  did. He did the fantastic job of
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  really staying on top of all the instruments.
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  And because I suppose I don't think about the vocals as much
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  because, you know, surprise, I'm the guitarist.
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  So when you think about, you know, my guitar, but I think,
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  you know, Jasper did a really good job of just not doing like
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  guttural diarrhoea over everything.
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  You know, he did a really good job at going, OK, I want vocals
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  over that. I want vocals over that.
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  This is the bit where it needs to pause.
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  And like, for example, the the last like 3 or 4 minutes of the
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  album, there's no vocals whatsoever.
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  And I think that works really well because, you know, trying
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  into the kind of themeology of like the last song, YouTube 35
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  being the nuclear bomb. It's kind of like, yeah, it's
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  devoid of any vocals, any anything human.
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  It's just noise at that point, which I think works really well.
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  I'm not sure if he was smart enough to kind of design it that
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  way, but, you know, he can claim that he was So.
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  But yeah, everyone's everyone in the interviews has said and and
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  the reviews, you know how amazing Gasper is.
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  And I'm like, God, give it a rest already.
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  Like the guy does not need more of an ego but.
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  This is the thing, everybody. Yeah, you know what?
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  Give credit. He's it's a great performance
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  and it really helps highlight the record.
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  I don't, but he's, he's a, he's a great vocalist and he always
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  he's smart when it comes to like designing the songs and the
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  layouts as well. Like he's not just like, you
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  know, we don't just keep him in a box and then wheel him out
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  when it's time to do vocals. Like he, he's actively doing the
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  writing stuff. So.
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  I know, I know every band would like to keep their vocalist like
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  Thing One and Two come out, grab the mic and go.
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  Speaking of vocals, one other thing about I love some of these
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  guests appearances. Clearly, you know, you shouted
• 19:41
  out Black tongue already, but I did want to talk about these
• 19:45
  these particular things. Did you have the songs written
• 19:47
  with them in mind or did you write the whole album and then
• 19:50
  say, you know, maybe we can bring up some friends with how'd
• 19:53
  you do it? Yeah, it's interesting because
• 19:56
  some of the songs on the album were written like.
• 20:01
  I don't know, 2-3 years ago, like Traitors to the Ropes, me
• 20:05
  and our old guitar sack wrote that in like 2023.
• 20:09
  Whereas some songs like Trying to think, which was the the last
• 20:14
  one we probably wrote, I think we wrote the song where they
• 20:17
  gather pretty late. So it was kind of like, I don't
• 20:20
  know it. We, we wrote the album as we
• 20:22
  went along and it kind of took shape as we went along.
• 20:25
  I think we set out to write a certain thing and then it kind
• 20:28
  of morphed a little bit, but we tried to keep it on track.
• 20:31
  But yeah, with those features, you know, I think we definitely
• 20:35
  wanted to get a couple features on the album and I and I
• 20:38
  remember that from the get go. Um, but I think we never
• 20:42
  expected we'd actually get Alex Tayam from Black Tongue because
• 20:45
  we're all such huge fans. And we reached out to him
• 20:48
  through a mutual friend and it was just like, you know, fuck
• 20:50
  it. What's the worst he can say is
• 20:52
  no. Well, actually the worst he can
• 20:54
  say is no, you're a shit band, you know, so, but he didn't, he
• 20:57
  was like, yeah, all right. So we're like, yes.
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  So we worked with him, unlike the lyrics and, and stuff, and
• 21:05
  then we're just like, yeah, here you go.
• 21:06
  And he was like, yeah, I'll, I'll go in and get it recorded.
• 21:08
  And he recorded it and then sent it over to us.
• 21:10
  And it was like, yeah, this is amazing.
• 21:13
  And similar to our the other feature, Josh Davies from
• 21:16
  Ingested. You know, we've been friends
• 21:18
  with Josh for a couple years now before he joined Ingested.
• 21:21
  And yeah, he was just like a kind of natural like, yeah, that
• 21:25
  would be sick to have him on the album.
• 21:27
  And again, you know, I think Jasper probably had an idea for
• 21:30
  for Apache of yeah, I'd like a feature at the end.
• 21:34
  But we were pretty, we didn't write any of the songs being
• 21:36
  like, Oh yeah, this song like has to have a feature at the
• 21:39
  end. We're kind of just like, yeah,
• 21:40
  we'll see how it goes. And kind of we let Jasper decide
• 21:43
  where he thought features would go best.
• 21:45
  And I think he picked really well.
• 21:46
  So yeah, it was kind of a process along the way.
• 21:51
  You know, in some, in some respects, I feel like you have
• 21:54
  to do a lot of forethought when it comes to doing like an album.
• 21:57
  And, and we certainly did in terms of what it should sound
• 22:00
  like, what it should be like, what it should mean that then
• 22:03
  the actual content and the actual sound of it.
• 22:06
  We just completely let whatever happened, happened.
• 22:11
  And you know, I've, I've said this before, but I mean, we
• 22:13
  ended up throwing most of what we wrote away and what was left
• 22:17
  was the album. So we could have done another
• 22:20
  two albums based on what we wrote, but it just wasn't good
• 22:23
  enough. It just didn't, it didn't, it
• 22:24
  didn't tie in, it wasn't good enough.
• 22:26
  It wasn't fleshed out enough. And we really concentrated it
• 22:29
  down to those songs that made it.
• 22:33
  And it's kind of like, I don't know, natural selection, I
• 22:36
  guess. But yeah, it was a long time
• 22:39
  writing the album. And, you know, it was a bumpy
• 22:41
  time for us in the band in terms of going through a lot of grief
• 22:46
  and a lot of personal problems. So it kind of was good to have
• 22:50
  an anchor to keep us all together and keep us going.
• 22:53
  And I think I speak for the guys when I think we were just really
• 22:57
  happy that we finished it and, you know, made it through the
• 23:00
  other end because now people listening to it and people
• 23:03
  clearly like it. So it's a, it's a good feeling.
• 23:06
  It's a good feeling to know that you can concentrate all your
• 23:09
  pain and, and everything and, and, you know, sadness into
• 23:13
  something and, and have it come out so good.
• 23:16
  And, you know, I want to, wanted to bring back to something you
• 23:18
  said earlier, which was the, the, the fact that it sounds
• 23:21
  fun. And I think that's the funniest
• 23:23
  thing for me is because it I agree with you.
• 23:26
  Like, it is fun and it and the songs are a lot of fun to play
• 23:29
  live. And, you know, the grooves,
• 23:32
  people really enjoy them, which is amazing.
• 23:35
  But just knowing what was going on in the background of these
• 23:37
  songs, it's like, yeah, what? It wasn't fun for most of it.
• 23:42
  But you know, getting to the end of it and having the finished
• 23:46
  product, it's like, this is like priceless to us.
• 23:49
  Like the fact that we got there and the fact that it turned out
• 23:52
  as well as it did is, is, you know, I think a testament to us
• 23:56
  guys getting through it, to be honest, because we we did a lot
• 24:00
  of personal growth during the writing of the album and we're a
• 24:03
  lot better people for getting through the end of it.
• 24:05
  So yeah. Right on, thanks for sharing all
• 24:07
  that, I really appreciate it. So the album came out in late
• 24:10
  September, What do you have on tap for the rest of the year
• 24:13
  that you can share? Anything planned for next year
• 24:16
  like touring? So in less than two weeks we'll
• 24:20
  be in Ireland doing our island tour.
• 24:25
  So we're playing three shows. Cork, Dublin and Limerick you
• 24:30
  can find all the details on Beyond Extinction dot online for
• 24:34
  all of your Beyond Extinction related content.
• 24:36
  And yeah, we will probably have something to announce soon for
• 24:42
  November that's quite exciting. That should be hopefully
• 24:45
  something a bit more in in England.
• 24:48
  As for next year, I can't really say too much at the moment, but
• 24:52
  you know, we might have some exciting things coming up, but
• 24:55
  watch this space. You know, we're very lucky to
• 24:57
  have very, you know, very good group of people around us in
• 25:01
  terms of, you know, we've worked very hard to surround ourselves
• 25:05
  with good people in the industry, you know, Jazz, our PR
• 25:08
  agent included. So it definitely the hard work
• 25:13
  has has paid off in terms of us being in a really good position
• 25:16
  now to play more shows and hopefully get to bigger
• 25:19
  audiences because we'd, we'd love to to, you know, really
• 25:23
  start capitalizing on all the hard work really.
• 25:26
  That's killer. I'm rooting for you guys.
• 25:28
  I want, I want to see big things for you in the future.
• 25:30
  I'm super excited. I like to end these interviews
• 25:33
  with a wild card question. And so if you could, yeah,
• 25:37
  always a challenge. Sometime it's sometimes it's a
• 25:39
  stumper. If you could invite any five
• 25:42
  people, living or dead, famous or not, to dinner, who would you
• 25:46
  invite and what would you serve them?
• 25:47
  Either if you cook or you would have a certain meal prepared.
• 25:54
  Oh my God, that's such a that's such a horrible question to like
• 25:58
  spring on on you immediately, man, I feel I could have to
• 26:03
  think about all day. OK, so I would probably say Ozzy
• 26:09
  Osbourne I think would be a great 1.
• 26:13
  I feel like he'd like a proper roast dinner.
• 26:17
  So like I mean he's he's he was from Birmingham so he probably
• 26:21
  like thick gravy. So I'd do him a thick gravy
• 26:24
  roast dinner with extra Yorkshire puddings.
• 26:28
  Who else would I have? I think I'd have the guy who
• 26:33
  invented the first eight string guitar and I'd serve him
• 26:37
  whatever he wanted. I'd have probably David
• 26:40
  Attenborough because it would be funny and I like animals.
• 26:44
  God, this is so hard. I, I want these to matter.
• 26:50
  Probably like an emperor from like the Ming dynasty, because
• 26:53
  I'd again, it would be funny And you know, I'd like to see what
• 26:57
  he thinks of like English take away Chinese.
• 26:59
  He'd probably have a heart attack and then maybe someone
• 27:03
  like, I don't know, probably someone like my granddad who
• 27:07
  passed away recently. I feel like that would be nice
• 27:10
  to kind of have him at the table, you know, one last time.
• 27:14
  So I'll end on a nice note. Right on.
• 27:15
  Sorry for your loss, but that's a that's a really good
• 27:18
  collection of people. I kind of love the idea of Ozzy
• 27:20
  next to David Attenborough. That would be amazing.
• 27:24
  I. Won't be wise.
• 27:26
  Yeah, right. A couple couple of bottles of
• 27:28
  wine. I just, I didn't, I haven't seen
• 27:31
  the BBC Coming Home doc yet, but I just saw the other one here in
• 27:35
  this, the Paramount documentary, No Escape From Now.
• 27:40
  It is more brutal than any riff ever.
• 27:44
  It's so hard. I love Ozzy my whole life.
• 27:46
  It is so heartbreaking to watch him, you know, basically, you
• 27:51
  know, his final handful of years was just mostly unpleasant with
• 27:56
  a few moments of joy. It's really shitty, but in any
• 27:59
  case, sorry about that. Let's bring it way down.
• 28:02
  But dude, man, you're fantastic. Congratulations on the new album
• 28:08
  and I do hope everyone checks out the band.
• 28:11
  We will link everything in the description where they can keep
• 28:14
  tabs on you, buy the music, support you with the purchase.
• 28:16
  Please buy some merch, buy a vinyl.
• 28:18
  If you dig the music, go out to a show, especially local shows
• 28:22
  and and underground venues. We need those to survive more
• 28:26
  than anything else. It's been an absolute pleasure.
• 28:29
  Thank you man. I was just gonna plug the CD but
• 28:31
  I can't find it. Oh no, I didn't tell you to be
• 28:36
  prepared with props. That's my fault.
• 28:37
  Hey, that one. Wait, it looks great.
• 28:40
  You can get your copy. It's not in focus.
• 28:41
  You can get your copy. It looks fantastic.
• 28:44
  I designed it, so of course it's incredible.
• 28:46
  And yeah, pick something up because as you said earlier,
• 28:51
  streaming doesn't really pay anything.
• 28:53
  So this is where this is how we can afford to keep making great
• 28:57
  music for you guys and join our discord if you can it's on our
• 29:01
  linked on our website because you can get exclusive content
• 29:05
  and chat to us so. Right on.
• 29:07
  I will follow you there also at Ghost called Meg and at Ghost
• 29:10
  called Kefi, which is I Jude of Beyond Distinction.
• 29:14
  Thanks so much for hanging out with Ghost Cult tonight man
• 29:16
  Thank you. Thank you for a great interview
• 29:17
  man. Pleasure chat and to you.