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#1665 Fun Times & Cataclysmic Events - Patrick Bonello (PT2) · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I'll get a team. I hope you're bloody terrific. This
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  Speaker 1: is the conclusion of my conversation yesterday with Patrick. There
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  Speaker 1: was a whole lot of a whole lot of chat
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  Speaker 1: about at times not much, I'm going to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: but kind of amusing and funny and a little bit
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  Speaker 1: informative in places I feel free not to listen. But
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  Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. He enjoyed it, and you might too.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go, tell me why fitness apps and fitbits
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  Speaker 1: might not be the amazing resources that we thought they
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  Speaker 1: would be.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I I do use a tracker, and I like
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  Speaker 2: to kind of just casually glance and see what my
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  Speaker 2: average heart rate is. I know it always goes up
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  Speaker 2: when I talk to you. I've done six three hundred
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  Speaker 2: and forty six steps today. My heart rates fifty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Is that good at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: That's very healthy. That's very low. That's fifty eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, also it's probably like if and even that's you thinking, conversing, concentrating, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: probably if you were just sitting there really chilled, it
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  Speaker 1: might be around fifty. Which is it's not completely absolute,
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  Speaker 1: but it's highly indicative that you're very fit.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, which is interesting because I've had to have
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  Speaker 2: a break from the gym. But I'm not doing as
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  Speaker 2: much cardio. But I do run up and down the
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  Speaker 2: stairs constantly. The good thing about being forgetful in the
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  Speaker 2: two story house, and you do this as well, I know,
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  Speaker 2: is how many times in the morning do you run upstairs?
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  Speaker 2: I never walk up my stairs ever, I always always
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  Speaker 2: run up the stairs, and I always leave something up
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  Speaker 2: the stairs. At least four or five trips a morning.
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  Speaker 2: I'm bolting up and down the stairs, so that probably helps.
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  Speaker 1: Speak. Can I just say read something to you which
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  Speaker 1: you'll find funny? Speaking about that which I wrote the
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  Speaker 1: other day? Have you ever been worried about something, gotten
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  Speaker 1: distracted for a while, and then after the distraction has passed,
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  Speaker 1: you're still worried, but you can't remember why. Right, it's gone.
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  Speaker 1: It's gone. The worry has gone from your mind, but
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  Speaker 1: it's still in your body. This phenomenon is called emotional residue.
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  Speaker 1: It happens when the body retains the physiological effects of
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  Speaker 1: stress or worry, even though the mind may have moved
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  Speaker 1: on or forgotten the specifics of the cause. The body's
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  Speaker 1: stress response increased heart rate, blood pressure, stress or mines,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Lingers because emotional and physiological processes operate on
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  Speaker 1: different timelines. The brain might not consciously recall the worry,
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  Speaker 1: but the body's reaction will persist, creating a lingering sense
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  Speaker 1: of unease.
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  Speaker 2: That's so interesting. So yeah, so once the you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's that what do they call the effect? And it's
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  Speaker 2: a chain reaction effect, isn't it? Once in motion, you
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  Speaker 2: can't retract it. It's just going to play itself out.
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  Speaker 2: That's a really interesting little thought process there. And when
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  Speaker 2: I was talking, we were talking earlier about fitbits and
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  Speaker 2: calorie counters and all that, and I think they're great
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  Speaker 2: because I do like to keep a target every day
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  Speaker 2: to see that I've walked a certain amount that I've
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  Speaker 2: done as many steps as I have and is my
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  Speaker 2: heart rate up or down? And am I stressed? But
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  Speaker 2: there is a concern now that people can get somewhat obsessive.
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  Speaker 2: So it may even damage people's well being if they're
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  Speaker 2: focusing too much and become obsessed on this. Now I've
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  Speaker 2: got a true story. I was talking to somebody who
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  Speaker 2: had said to me they were trying to get ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand steps a day, which is really funny because ten
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  Speaker 2: thousand steps was the Japanese Do you know the story
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  Speaker 2: about why ten thousands is the is the I do?
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  Speaker 1: But tell everyone? Yep.
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  Speaker 2: So the marketing company or the company that came up
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  Speaker 2: with the first fitness tracker or basically a stepper, what
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  Speaker 2: they did was they were Japanese company. They realized that
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  Speaker 2: the Japanese character for ten thousand looks like a person walking,
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  Speaker 2: So their marketing department said ten thousand that's how many
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  Speaker 2: steps you need to make in a day. So the
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  Speaker 2: original pedometer, the step calculator was just that ten thousand
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  Speaker 2: was just a marketing ploye. So that's been adopted, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But do you know, as it turns out, in my opinion,
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  Speaker 1: it's not a bad goal. It's not a bad goal.
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  Speaker 2: Was it about seven kilometers or no? It's a bit
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  Speaker 2: less than that, isn't it? Maybe six k It depends.
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  Speaker 1: A little bit, well, it depends a lot on your
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  Speaker 1: stride length. So someone who's super lank in tall like
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  Speaker 1: you only kidding, but people's stride length typically walking varies
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  Speaker 1: between about sixty and eighty centimeters. So if you sixty
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  Speaker 1: and you take ten thousand, that six k's if you're
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  Speaker 1: eighty and you take ten thousand steps, it's about eight k's.
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  Speaker 1: But the average if you had to go what is it, ballpark,
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  Speaker 1: typically it's around seventy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So people, there's three types of people who
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  Speaker 2: get these fitness trackers. There's the ones that engage with
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  Speaker 2: it initially and then lose interest. The ones have a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a long stable, long term interaction, which I
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  Speaker 2: reckon would be I'm not obsessed by my steps. If
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  Speaker 2: I get to the end of the day and it's like, ah,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do as much as yesterday, I'll try better
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  Speaker 2: the next day, that's me. But those people who become obsessive. So,
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  Speaker 2: as I was saying, a friend of mine had his
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  Speaker 2: goal of ten thousand and realized before bed that they
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  Speaker 2: still needed under two thousand steps, so they went walking
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  Speaker 2: around their house to try to keep the steps up
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  Speaker 2: and get to the ten thousand. Now that's obsessive.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's actually really normal. It's like so many people,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the crab does that. The crab's got to
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  Speaker 1: set him out and crabs My training partner everyone, most
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  Speaker 1: of you know that he's like that. He will if
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  Speaker 1: he looks and his steps a low he'll walk out
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  Speaker 1: the front of the house at eleven o'clock at night
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  Speaker 1: just to get up to where he wants it to be.
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  Speaker 1: That's not rare, that's more common than But you know,
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  Speaker 1: you raise a really good point, Patrick, When does the
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  Speaker 1: healthy thing become the become the unhealthy thing? Like there's
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  Speaker 1: a there's a condition called athletica nevosa. You'll be able
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  Speaker 1: to figure out what that means, right, And so that
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  Speaker 1: is just when people become absolutely obsessed about exercise, and
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  Speaker 1: now they're overtraining, often undersleeping, under recovering, and now they
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  Speaker 1: have a new condition, which is emotional and psychological anxiety
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  Speaker 1: around how much exercise they're doing or not doing. And
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  Speaker 1: if per chance, I'm absolutely sure I had this when
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  Speaker 1: I was a kid, because I was completely fucking obsessed.
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  Speaker 1: When these people get injured and they actually can't work out,
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  Speaker 1: like they've broken an ankle or something, and now they
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  Speaker 1: can't run, oh my god, it's literally like withdrawing from
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  Speaker 1: Heroin for some of them. Yeah, that's interesting that thing
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  Speaker 1: of and even you know, and this is funny coming
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  Speaker 1: from the bloke that eats two meals a day and
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  Speaker 1: doesn't drink and all of that but sometimes I meet
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  Speaker 1: people who have gone from unhealthy and out of shape
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  Speaker 1: and they both basically become evangelistic zealots where now you know,
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  Speaker 1: every every calorie, every micro nutrient, macro nutrient is tracked
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  Speaker 1: within a millimeter of its life. And and yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: there's a line. There's a line where it's good to
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  Speaker 1: be disciplined, it's good to be in control, but it's not,
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  Speaker 1: you know, obsession and discipline. It's like about one step
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  Speaker 1: away from each other.
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  Speaker 2: I have to have a chuckle to myself because I
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  Speaker 2: often hear that about vegans, like the militant vegans, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the ones that raided factories and release all the chickens
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  Speaker 2: and then the chickens run around everywhere and get run over.
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  Speaker 1: That's not why did you say that?
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  Speaker 2: It's true though that happens. It's silly they.
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  Speaker 1: But also when you release those chickens that have been
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  Speaker 1: in a cage their whole life, what the fuck are
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  Speaker 1: they going to do?
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  Speaker 2: Not like they know how to, they don't have eggs,
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  Speaker 2: They just wobble around. They don't get a chance to
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  Speaker 2: exercise their acrophied muscles.
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  Speaker 1: Because yeah, that is that is vegans, you know, have
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  Speaker 1: a better plan if you can, like have a better
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  Speaker 1: plan than that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not all vegans at least any animals.
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  Speaker 1: But you're a vegan, aren't you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Or are you a vegetarian?
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  Speaker 2: And I'm vegan vegan, I was vegetarian for ten years
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  Speaker 2: or pescatarian for ten years.
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  Speaker 1: And then is that why you're all hasty?
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  Speaker 2: I'm not. No, it's the light flaring on my camera.
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  Speaker 2: It looks weird and a shut up.
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  Speaker 1: You say it's you say it's that, I say, eat
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  Speaker 1: a steak. I mean, really, come on, bro, it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I had to laugh. After I'd been vegan for twelve months,
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  Speaker 2: I went to my doctor and I thought, I better
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  Speaker 2: get my blood's done and just see if I'm getting
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  Speaker 2: a balanced diet. And kept saying to me, yeah, you're iron,
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  Speaker 2: You're iron, it's the whole. Yeah, you're iron. You can't
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  Speaker 2: get iron. And my results came back and the doctor said, look,
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  Speaker 2: everything's fantastic stick except your iron, and I thought, oh shit,
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  Speaker 2: everyone was right.
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  Speaker 1: Too much.
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  Speaker 2: You got double the amount. He said, stop taking your
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  Speaker 2: supplements because what it be taking, you're taking too much
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  Speaker 2: of it. So I had to have the daily allowance
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  Speaker 2: because the normal daily allowance was too much.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, did you know that there's there's research coming out
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  Speaker 1: now exploring the consciousness of plants?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've heard. I've read. There was an amazing
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  Speaker 2: book that I read that talked about how trees can
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  Speaker 2: communicate to each other when they say a fire or
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  Speaker 2: one in danger. And what's even more mind blowing is
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  Speaker 2: they worked out they used a kind of a mitochondrial
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  Speaker 2: connection under the ground. I think it's a synerg some
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  Speaker 2: sort of I don't know, relationship with fungi as well.
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  Speaker 2: But they discovered that a tree that had been felled
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  Speaker 2: so completely cut off was being kept alive by the
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  Speaker 2: other trees around it a stump.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also I read this I don't know the
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  Speaker 1: story or report or an article, but about this forest
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  Speaker 1: and at one end of the forest, basically at one end,
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  Speaker 1: these insects started destroying the foliage on the trees. And
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  Speaker 1: these insects was slowly working their way through the forest,
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  Speaker 1: and the trees that were in the path had been
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  Speaker 1: connect had been I don't know whatever, informed, whatever we
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  Speaker 1: want to call it, and so they developed this kind
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  Speaker 1: of a chemical defense. And so by the time the
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  Speaker 1: destructive insects got about I don't know. Halfway through, a
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  Speaker 1: third of the way through, the trees had built this
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  Speaker 1: kind of chemical defense mechanism that made the foliage taste
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  Speaker 1: shitouse and they just stopped. And it's like, yeah, there's
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  Speaker 1: this there's this neural like structure like which resembles a
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  Speaker 1: form of intelligence and communication. And I think, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know that they're sentient in
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  Speaker 1: the way that we understand sentience, or conscious in the
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  Speaker 1: way that we understand consciousness. But there is absolutely some
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  Speaker 1: kind of messaging or communication.
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  Speaker 2: This book, I was telling you about the hidden life
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  Speaker 2: of trees, what they feel, how they communicate, discoveries from
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  Speaker 2: a secret world. A guy by the name of Peter
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  Speaker 2: Wolhoman I think is the name. But yeah, the hidden
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  Speaker 2: life of trees. It was really interesting to find so
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  Speaker 2: much more.
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  Speaker 1: Nonetheless, you still look pasty, all right?
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  Speaker 2: No, don't I just turned. I turned, I turned the blind.
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  Speaker 2: Do I still look past he really? No?
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  Speaker 1: No, you actually look annoyingly healthy. Somebody said to me
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  Speaker 1: the other day. Do you and Patrick actually get on well?
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  Speaker 1: Or is that just fun? I go, he's one of
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  Speaker 1: my best friend, which I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't think I could fake that honestly, Yeah, I fucking yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like some if I don't like someone, I think they
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  Speaker 2: must know that I don't like them because I can't
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  Speaker 2: fake it. I'm really bad at lying. I tell really
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  Speaker 2: bad jokes, but halfway through the joke, I start grinning,
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  Speaker 2: so people know there is a joke coming.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so you try to present it as a story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's exactly how I do my delivery of jokes.
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  Speaker 2: So I don't think you know people who I genuinely like.
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  Speaker 2: I think that people genuinely know that I like them
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  Speaker 2: because I find it hard to fake that. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I could fake liking someone.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think. So, Hey, this is not surprising to me.
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  Speaker 1: But there's been some research on sitting and the dangers
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  Speaker 1: or potential fatality of sitting. And I mean, I've been
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  Speaker 1: telling people for twenty years where the sit down generation,
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  Speaker 1: and it's going to fucking kill us, or at least contribute.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about what they found.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to preface this by saying that the
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  Speaker 2: study was forty five thousand people, like, not just one
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  Speaker 2: or two people, but forty.
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  Speaker 1: That's a great participant number.
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  Speaker 2: It is, it is, and it was published by the
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  Speaker 2: British Journal of Sports Medicine, and what they're saying is
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  Speaker 2: that thirty to forty minutes of moderate to vigorous exercise
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  Speaker 2: daily will counteract the negative effects of prolonged sitting. Because
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  Speaker 2: the thing is, people can sit up to ten hours
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  Speaker 2: a day. You might be sitting at your desk for
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  Speaker 2: a normal workday and then you you watch television, so
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  Speaker 2: you're compounding that by just plunking your you know, your
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  Speaker 2: backside on the couch as well. So I guess the
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  Speaker 2: key findings were that you know a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: in our generation who sit at desks, the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the effects are long standing. You know, we know that
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  Speaker 2: there are lots you'd know from a physiological perspective, the
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  Speaker 2: detrimental effects of sitting for prolonged period in terms of
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  Speaker 2: your posture, what happens to your body, what happens to
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  Speaker 2: your spine because your spine's not stretching. It's really crazy stuff.
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  Speaker 2: And to have to do that much work a day,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, thirty to forty minutes of moderate vigorous exercise
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  Speaker 2: is going to be hard for some people.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, and no, I'm like, fucking get over it.
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  Speaker 1: Just do it. I mean come on, like really it's
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  Speaker 1: you know, but you're right. So you think about when
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  Speaker 1: you're sitting like you and me right now, we are
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  Speaker 1: in what's called hip flexion. So our hips are bent,
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  Speaker 1: which is flex called flexion anatomically, our knees are inflection.
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  Speaker 1: And many people, when we're sitting at a desk, our
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  Speaker 1: back is hunched. We have what's called a chiphotic posture,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thoracic. I'm looking at me right now
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  Speaker 1: and my shoulders are forward, and if I turn sideways
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  Speaker 1: like I'm about to, you know, you have that kind
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  Speaker 1: of shoulders forward, head forward in an ideal world that
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  Speaker 1: we don't live in. But yeah, your shoulders, like the
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  Speaker 1: middle of your shoulders want to be back in the
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  Speaker 1: midline of your body, and your head doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: be forward. Your head weighs about four kilos nine pounds,
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  Speaker 1: and ideally you want your head to be back. But
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  Speaker 1: when we as in aligned with your the rest of
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  Speaker 1: your body. But virtually everyone at a computer or a
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  Speaker 1: desk sits there in this neck flexion, so head forward position,
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  Speaker 1: and no wonder so many people have got fucked shoulders
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  Speaker 1: and necks because the way that we sit predisposes to
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  Speaker 1: that kind of injury or that kind of condition. Sorry,
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  Speaker 1: But also another really interesting thing, Patrick James, is that
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  Speaker 1: these days people think that we we're getting you know,
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  Speaker 1: that obese and overweight is going through the roof because
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  Speaker 1: we just eat lots more. It ain't true we eat more,
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  Speaker 1: but we only eat a little bit more. But what
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  Speaker 1: we do do, Comma, your honor Comma, is we move
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  Speaker 1: a lot less. So you are exactly right now. Think
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  Speaker 1: about a lot of people. So they lie down for
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  Speaker 1: eight hours, they sleep, then they get up and sit
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  Speaker 1: at the breakfast table. Then they sit in the car
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  Speaker 1: on the way to work or the tram or the train.
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  Speaker 1: Then they sit at work all morning. Then they get
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  Speaker 1: up to go to lunch and sit to eat lunch,
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  Speaker 1: then sit at their desk for all lavo, then sit
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  Speaker 1: to go home, then get home and go I'm fuck,
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  Speaker 1: They've got to sit down right, and then they sit
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  Speaker 1: on the couch or they sit for dinner, and then
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the amount of fourteen hundred and forty
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  Speaker 1: minutes a day. Like I look at my dad, obviously
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  Speaker 1: he's old, but I said this to him. I saw
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  Speaker 1: him on the weekend and I said, Dad, you would
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  Speaker 1: be lucky to be standing for thirty minutes a day
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  Speaker 1: because he spends his day in bed, like all these
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  Speaker 1: nights in bed, and then a lot of sitting just
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  Speaker 1: because he recently had an operation, so he's been crooked.
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  Speaker 1: So it's understandable, I said, but you can't keep doing
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  Speaker 1: that because twenty three and a half hours a day
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  Speaker 1: where your eighty five year old body is lying or
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  Speaker 1: sitting is a recipe for fucking disaster. You don't need
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  Speaker 1: to be running marathons or deadlifting one thousand pounds, but
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  Speaker 1: we need to get you more active more of the time.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, the extra weight that we're seeing on a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people is less about less than we think
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  Speaker 1: about the additional calories in and more about the fewer
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  Speaker 1: calories out. Energy expenditure is down on a generation or too,
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  Speaker 1: go way down.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, I bought myself just a hybrid stand
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  Speaker 2: up desk, which is you just sit this desk on
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  Speaker 2: top of your existing desk and it's just a hydraulic desk.
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  Speaker 2: It stands up. I think it took me a week,
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  Speaker 2: and that's got to be maybe five years. I'm trying
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  Speaker 2: to think how long I've had it. It's been a
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  Speaker 2: long long now maybe less than that, maybe three years.
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  Speaker 2: But I stand up at my desk all day, every day.
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  Speaker 2: I can't imagine sitting down. I've got a footpad that
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  Speaker 2: is really handy, and I wear good comfortable shoes. You
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  Speaker 2: got to wear comfortable shoes, and it really helps a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I find standing up is great. I do use a
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: foot rest when I'm sitting down, so right now as
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: we're talking, I have one of those triangular footrests as well,
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: which helps me sit up a little bit straighter. But
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: definitely I always use the foot rest when I was
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: sitting at my desk, and then when I graduated to
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: having a stand up desk, I love it. I love
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: standing up and being on my feet all day, which
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: sounds weird, but for me it's certainly helped a lot.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I've got a stand up
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: desk as well. I reckon it's worth like, speaking of gadgets,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the best gadget that I've bought in terms of gadgets
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: in the last five years is this desk. It's got
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: two motors and its people go, oh, that's a extravagant
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: Not really, it's a cost a grand, which is not cheap,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: but I know people who spend fucking a grand on nothing,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: and I use it every single day, and I just
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: push a button and it goes up. It's got it's
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: almost completely silent, obviously, two electric motors, and it's six
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: foot long, and it's two foot white, so one hundred
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: and eighty centimeters by six hundred or by sixty centimeters,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and it's just it just makes that transition from sitting
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: working to standing and working really easy. And like, I
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: think that if you're ever going to spoil yourself on
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a luxury that is actually really fucking good for your
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: neck and back and shoulders and spine. And also think
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: about this, standing even just standing spends somewhere close to
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: twice the energy per unit of time as sitting. So
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: even if you just want to burn more calories do
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: thing other than just not be in a chair, it's
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: good for your health as well. In that way, on
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: top of all the postural stuff that you spoke about, Patrick, I.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Went for the hydraulic version as well, so you press
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a button and that it moves up and down, which
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I don't use at all ever anymore, because after about
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: two weeks I didn't need it to go back down anymore. However,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I just did a bit of a search online. You
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: can buy what they call it a sit stand ergonomic
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: desk that sits on top of your existing desk for
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: ninety nine bucks. Yeah, do with search. It's honestly, that's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the cheapest best investment ever in ongoing health. I would
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: absolutely totally encourage, if you do anything listening to this show,
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: get a stand up desk. It's great if you're stuck
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: at your desk all day. I think that you'd really
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: find a lot of benefits.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: In the old days, we would have got about five
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: phone books, but there are no phone books anymore.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Nah. No, I haven't seen a phone book for a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: long like a malway directories. I know all people who
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: still buy them because you can still get them, but really,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: I haven't looked at a street directory. Yeah. I've got
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: friends of mine who always carries a street directory in
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: their car the other day or.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Not the other day, that's a lie. Two months ago,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: I was taking my dad to a different gym and
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: I wasn't I didn't know exactly so he lives in
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: more Well. We were going into Elgin and I just
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: press a button in my car and I say, set
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: navigation for such and such gym, and it goes setting
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: navigation and then it comes up and my dad looks
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: at me, like we're in the future and this is
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: just in my shitty little Suzuki, right, It's not like
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: it's not like it's a Rolls Royce or a fucking Maserati.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: And he's look. I go, yeah, I know, it's freaky,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: isn't it. It's like you just tell this thing to
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: do this. Imagine back in the seventies when you're fumbling
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: around in front of the HR station wagon, you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: looking for Map seventy nine B, trying to get to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a restaurant in Brunswick or something, and you know, you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: just press a button on your steering wheel and you
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: tell the car to tell you, and then it goes
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: setting navigation and then it literally talks to you until
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you get there.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: And it also now a lot of like I know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Google does this with Google Maps and Google Android Auto.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: What they do is they monitor traffic conditions so a
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: crowd source what people are doing. So if you've got
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: ten Android using drivers who get to an intersection and
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: suddenly they're all stacked side by side or behind each
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: other it will look for an alternate route. One day,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I was traveling to Melbourne and there was bump at
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: a bumper traffic, so it told me to get off
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: at the service station, drive around the service station, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: then jump back on again, and it saved me five minutes. Yeah,
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: I basically piggyback to all that traffic and Google told
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: me to do that.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: I was coming home from my mum and dad and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: it's just straight down Princess Highway Freeway and you go
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: from literally from kind of Berwick and just stay on
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: the same road for ninety minutes. You don't turn left right,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: and then mum and Dad are like, one, k off that.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: And I was coming home from there and it told
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: me just to turn left here. I'm like, what for.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: It's like some boonstock backwoods fucking road. I'm like, nah,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: fuck off. And then of course, and then I get
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: up here, there's a crash, and then I'm just sitting
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: in absolute mayhem. It was telling me like it knew,
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and I ignored it, and I ended up stuck in
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: traffic that I could have avoided. And then I could
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: see in the distance all these smarter than me people
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: just bypassing the Mayhem because the road was like parallel
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but four hundred meters away, and by the time I
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: went past it, I couldn't get back there.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of little faith, you didn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: were talking about gadgets. Can I just I wanted to
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: talk about a gadget I bought this week that my
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: colleague mocked me for right now. It was one of
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: those spins that seems a little excessive for something that's
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: so commonplace. And what it is is one of those
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: USB thumb drives with five hundred of the world's best
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: paintings in high resolution that you plug into the back
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of your TV and it just cycles through them as
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: a screen saver, so Van Goch and all those sorts
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: of things, and it was really really amazing. I plugged
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: it in yesterday my colleague. I told my colleague about it,
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: and he said, why didn't you just download them from
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: the internet. I said, but that's five hundred high quality,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: high rest paintings. He says, yeah, the places you can
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: go to download them. I said, but I just had
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: to buy this and they sent me out to USBs
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: and I can put one in each television. He said, yeah,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: but you could have done it so much cheaper. It
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: cost me sixty nine bucks. I see a lot. But
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: you know what I did last night, and I've got
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: to say, I know I'm trying to quantify my spending
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: or qualify my spending, justify and justify. My mate came
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: over to watch a movie and instead we sat down
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: in front of the paintings and we just sat there
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: watching the paintings and we talked about them. We tried
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: to guess which painter painted them, and then we discussed
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: the styles of painting. Seriously, it was really fun. We
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: sat there for probably about half an hour, just look
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: at all these paintings going across the screen.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Patrick, just to heads up in future before you say
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: things like my mate came over and we sat on
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the couch looking at paintings on my TV in the
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: pre production meeting that we don't have, you really fucking
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: need to because the little credibility in brand that you had,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: you just you just fucked it up, all right, So Melissa,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: if you're listening, edit that out.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: No Ah, I'm all right embarrassed. Why does that embarrass you, Graig,
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: I said, embarrass me.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just worried about you, and how are you. How
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: are you going to get a husband doing that?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: I'm not.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Do you want a husband?
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: No? No, No, I'm happy, happy being single.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Do you want to? For those who are late to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: the show, of course, Patrick Patrick's gay and I might be.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: I'm still working through a few things.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Met further company of men. I went to it.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Exit, hang on, hang on, hang on, we haven't finished
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're fucking nervous. Do you want to?
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Do you want to? Are you worried that one of
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: your four boyfriends is listening now?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: No, I don't have any boyfriends.
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Do you want Do you want a boyfriend? Or are
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: you just happy just hanging out?
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Look if someone came along and they were the prince,
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: charming the night and shining, No, I'm not out looking
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: for it, So that answer to your question. I'm very contented.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: I've got lots of friends, i have a great lifestyle.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: I've got a good lot work life balance, and I
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: don't feel the need to out there looking for someone
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: to kind of be a partner. No, that's not on
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: the cards for.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: A forty year old jacked, athletic, super kind, generous, hilarious,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: beautiful nature. If you're listening to this, Patrick's not interested
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: in you, so fucking right off.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You've got to keep options open. Come on, Craig in
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: the same boat.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: So if you're that guy I just described, definitely don't
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: email Patrick.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: No. I think that one of the interesting things about
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: coming out of an eleven year relationship this is seven
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: years ago. One of the interesting things is you come
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: out of a relationship thinking, oh, man, I'm going to
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: miss out on so much and I'm going to try
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: to work hard to get into another relationship. But then
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you get to a point where there's a contented aspect
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: of being alone and being and what I mean by
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: being alone being single, I shouldn't say alone, because I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: never alone. I've got me, I've got my Schnauzer, but
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I also have so many friends. And don't laugh, schnauzer
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: is just a dog. You're just putting another meaning on
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the words. Now.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: No, but no, you do make a really good point.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: I'll shut up after this. Is that is it? Being
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: alone doesn't necessarily mean being lonely, right exactly, And being
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: in a crowd doesn't necessarily mean you're not lonely.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: A good one, Philo. I've just been reading a book
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: called the Finish Guide to Happiness, and the Finns consistently
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: since the World Index of Happiness has been published. I
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: think they've been the number one happiest nation on Earth
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: consistently for the last sixteen years or something, for as
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: long as the study has been going. And it's interesting
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: that the mindset of the Finish is very different than
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. But what I found really interesting
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: is a lot of Finnish people really thrive on a
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: loan time and going out of the forest, going for
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: a walk by themselves. And I think that once you
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: embrace that, once you start to enjoy your own company
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: and the freedom of your own company. I think that
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: that's where I settled into and that's where I'm at
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: at the moment. I do like my own company, and
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: I kind of feel contented when I can just you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: bum around the house. I do talk to Fritz while
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: I'm walking around, but I kind of enjoy it, you know,
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: putting on I've rediscovered the joy of vinyl. I go
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: up still, I get my go to my Vinyl record
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: collection and I listen to an entire album. Whereas if
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: you've got it on Spotify, you can do stuff. You
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: can walk around and you listen to one song and
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: then you curate your music playlist. But for me to
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: listen to an album from start to finish, yeah great,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: I love doing that. So now kind of enjoy that.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Just to supporting your data there. According to the twenty
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: twenty four World Happiness Report, who fucking knew that ssted
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Inland is the happiest country in the world for the
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: seventh year in a row. This ranking is based on
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: several factors including life satisfaction, social support, freedom, generosity, and
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: the absence of corruption. I'm moving at Finland. Other top
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: ranked countries include Denmark, Iceland, Sweden, Wow, all these Nordic countries,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: and Israel Wow, which make up not so Nordic the
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: top five. Finland's enduring happiness is often attributed to a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: focus on simplicity, connection with nature, and a strong sense
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: of community. You should be finished, dude, you would love
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: it there. The finished lifestyle prioritizes balance and contentment to
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: daily habits like outdoor activities and social cohesion. You read
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: that and you go, well, of course, well, of course,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: but it's just isn't it funny that that's abnormal?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: I like to think that moving to a rural town
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of a population of three thousand people. We do think
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: and you know, it's funny. It was a really windy, windy, windy,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: windy night last night and it's recycling today for a
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: rubbish collection, and my friend who I walk with, we
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: probably picked up about three or four rubbish bins and
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: in fact put the litter back into the bins and
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: set them right again because we didn't want litter all
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: around our neighborhood. And we just did that, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: we walked around and we looked at each other and thought,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: we'll just clean this up. So we cleaned up at
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: least three spills and a few knocked over bins because
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: you know, it was nice to just have a clean
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: environment and not have crap blowing around everywhere.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: But yeah, that is good, and that is like I
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: wish it was like that everywhere. I think the smaller
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the town, not always, but I guess the more that
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: you feel connected because there ain't that many of you,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: you know, whereas you know, where I live in Bayside, Melbourne,
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: there's hundreds of thousands of people and everyone's pretty fucking busy.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Well, I didn't know any of the people whose bins
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: we picked up and cleaned up after. I mean, I
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: do know a lot of people in town, but in
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: this instance, not one of those bins belong to anybody
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that I actually knew. And I'm not taking credit. I
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: don't want to pad on the back or anything like that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: But we felt compelled to do it because we live
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: in an area where we like to think that we're
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: sharing that with everybody else and if it's nice for us,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: it's nice for them, and vice versa.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Hey, I wanted to I've always this is a terrible segue,
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: but it's on your list, and I'm just curious about
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I'm always I've been interested in the value of warranties.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: You know, when something comes with a warranty and then
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: you go, oh, it's still in warranty, and then you
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: go in to get your warranty whatever because the thing
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: broke and they're like, oh yeah that well, yeah that's
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: not covered. That's not covered. So, by the way, didn't
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: you read the twenty seven pages of fine print if
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: you read the because you know it's in there, So
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: tell me about Australian consumer law and what it has
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to say about this.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Well, pat on the back to the consumer watchdog because
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: we actually have some of the strongest consumer laws in
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: the world. And what people may not realize, and quite
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: often when you go and buy say white goods or
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: black goods, they'll try to do an upsell, give you
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: an extra year warranty for seventy five bucks. All those
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: extended warranties are worth bugger or because you don't need them.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: If you buy a fridge and there's an expected life
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: of we'll say eight years of a fridge and in
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: three years time, the warranty has been expired for two years.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: If your fridge dies and it's not because of an
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: electrical fault as in like there's a power surge, but
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: if it dies just through normal operation, they are the
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: company that manufactured it has to replace it under consumer law.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: So if it's a defect as a result of the
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: manufacturing process, So there's an expected life of lots of products.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: And I kind of talk about fridge is the big
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: sale items. But if your fridge dies within two years
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: and it's not because of a power surge, it's just
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: that it was badly built, then under consumer law you
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: can have that replaced, fixed or replaced.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I wonder what, Yeah, but I wonder when you actually
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: rock up and tell them that there's a difference between
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: what you just said and that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: They know it. No, no, no, they know it. They
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: all know it. They absolutely all know it. This is
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: something that's probably a hidden one of those things. We
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: don't talk about it because it only what happens in
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: the family stays in the family. You know, we don't
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: talk about Uncle Charlie. But no, what I'm saying is
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: that a lot of these the laws are very transparent
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: and are known to all these companies that sell us stuff.
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I just thought of something. Go on, Sorry,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: this is I've got a story that's going to fucking
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: blow your jocks off. Yeah, okay, this got just talking
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: about talking about Well this is a very fucking vague segue,
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: but you're going to love this story.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So I can't.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't want to say who
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: because I don't I haven't been given the Okay, So
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to say someone that I know, Well,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: she works with a lady. Let's just say they're both nurses,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: which is true, right, I'm not giving I'm just saying
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: who it is. So that I was talking to my
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: friend the other day, and she was worked that day
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: with a friend of hers who's a nurse. So a
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: friend of hers had just come back from let's just say,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: an overseas location where she went to get new breasts. Right,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: So you know how people go overseas to get different
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: kinds of surgery is so this is like firsthand, this
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is not twenty seventh hand. So this lady went outseas
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: to get breast augmentation in a country where allegedly it's
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: you know, like great work, half the price. Blah blah blah,
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: had a good experience, got the surgery done. What are
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you looking up, Patrick, I can tell you looking something up.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm not looking up anything. I was just muting my
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: microphone so I didn't make noise whilst you were talking.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Oh that's all right anyway. So she had the surgery done,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: was very happy with the job, and on the flight
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: back to Australia, started to experience shortness of breath right
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and and passed out. Woke up like, regained consciousness, just
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't in a good way. Got to I think it
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: was Melbourne and went straight to the hospital. They did
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: all these scans, tests, X rays and when in this country,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: when they had done the breast augmentation. They took one
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: of her lungs. What what.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: What told you? Told you? I'm trying to get this person.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know if I can, but I'm trying to
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: get this person on the show.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Oh MG.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: Now, now this has just come from someone that I
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: know quite well and trust. So all I can say
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: is that's what I've been told, right, I don't have
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: hard But also somebody else said to me, Oh, yeah,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: that's a version of that. That's not that's not completely rare.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, this is like, this is somebody that you
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: know that it's reasonably close to home. It's not like
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: just some internet story. So I'm and I said, can
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: can you access that person? I would so love to
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: chat to that person? But could you imagine that? Could
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: you imagine?
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: It brings me back to a poem I learnt on
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a school camp when I was about twelve. Can I
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: tell you the poem?
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Oh God, okay.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: One lung's one met two lungs two down by the
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: shore of the sux Young Sea. Now, one lung's one
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: said the two lungs two, one lung you must give
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: to me so that I could have two lungs too,
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: But two lungs too, said the one lungs one. If
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I give you one lung, I will only have one
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: lung too. At this one lung one got mad and
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: thrusty sword he drew and ran two lung two through.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: So now too lung too? Was only one lung too?
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: How the fuck do you remember that?
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I know what is wrong with it, what I had
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: for breakfast, But I remember that.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: You're a savant dude. No, that is that is that
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: is just no, you are, but not in a good way.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Like that is just shit that nobody needs in their mind. No, now, everyone,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I can't verify that story. I'm just telling it. I
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: don't have absolute proof, so don't send me an email.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna keep digging and if it is true,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: and it seems like it might be, then I'm going
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: to work really hard to try and get that particular
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: person on the show. Let's do one more and then
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go and have a coffee, just anything
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you like.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Are you inviting me to have a coffee?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I would love you to come down here.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: We'll meet halfway.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just me and your four boyfriends. I won't get
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: in the road. At all.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Oh, okay, can I give a hint, a tip or
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: a trick that people may not know about? Because I
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: found this little trick a little while ago. If you
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: happen to use a PC SO or Windows based computer,
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: this is one of my favorite favorite tips that I
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: tell people, and once they start using it, they can't
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: believe they didn't know that you could do this In Windows.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: When you copy something, you do you know you use
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: the control copy key, right, so controls C to copy
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: and then control V to paste. Do you do that?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: All the time, but he does except if you use
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: the Windows key instead of the control key. So if
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: you go control copy but then Windows paste, what does
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: is it brings up a clipboard.
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: On hang on, where the fuck is the Windows button?
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: That's the one at the bottom, so you've got control function.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: And then some keyboards will have a little Windows icon
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: that looks like the Windows logo. Some of them might
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: it might say start or something like that, but it's
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: actually three keys in from the bottom.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: So mine says start. Is that that is it?
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: So if you if you use that and you use
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: that to copy, it's a paste control copy, and then
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: use the Windows V. It will bring up a clipboard
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: and it will show all the last things that you
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: copied and paste previously.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: So okay, So say I highlight a bunch of text
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: in a word document, I press control CEE that copy
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: is it? And then normally I put it in a
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: new document, go control V and it just planks it
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: there right, which is paste.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you do Windows V and then your computer
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: will prompt you to say do you want to use
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: the clipboard and you say yes, and then what I'm more,
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: it's more useful when I've got clients that we're helping,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: say they're registering a domain name, and you've got a
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: form you have to fill out, and it's the person's name, surname, address, location.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Rather than going copy paste, copy paste, copy paste, you
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: just go copy copy, copy, copy, copy all the way around,
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: and then you go to the new form and all
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: of those things that you've just copied are all there
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: in front of you by hitting Windows paste or in
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: the case yeah, it's try it. If you're a Windows user,
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: you will find this really effective. And it's as nerdy
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: as it is. It is so so super super useful.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I think we might make a little real of you
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: on the internet. Doing one young, too young, one lung,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: too lung? Where did you? Where did you get that?
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: From school camp? Just a school camp? I went on,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I don't know if someone told me at school camp, and.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: You must have invested a fair bit of time memorizing.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know that. I you know, I don't know.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: I think it just triggered something. I found it really funny,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: quirky or something, and it just stuck in my head.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: I just told you one of the most useful things
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: you'll ever do on a computer, and you went back
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: to my poem.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, is it that useful? Patrick? How do people connect
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: with you? If you're forty good looking, you've got abs
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a sick pack. Not that it's only about the aesthetics.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: It's mainly that if you're a vegan, help if you're
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: a vegan. If you're a vegan, you're definitely not going
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: to look like that. Oh you're going to be hunched
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: over and gasping for air. But you know, I'm just
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: kidding vegans, of course, Patrick's not like that. Of course
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: I love you, all vegans, carnivores and all of you.
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: How do people find you? Mate?
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: If you go to websites? Noow, dot com dot Au.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: They can kind of just connect with us and have
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: a chat to me about stuff I think we mentioned.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Did anybody come back to us in the last episode
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: of come up with the topic they wanted me to
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: talk about.
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know, but I go in
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: there every day.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: But Tip went on holiday and then everything turned to crap.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: That's pretty much true. True. Tip will be back next time.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so websites now dot com today. You just jump
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: on there, say gooday, have a look, we'll do the chat. Yeah,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: One last thing, but only thirty seconds. What's the update
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: on the bloody the dojo under the house.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Actually we used it for our first filming yesterday, as
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: I told you, the woman with the sticks and stuff.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: But look, I've decided to put some flooring in. I
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: just had chipboard, and the chipboard got stood over by
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: all the building people, so it got moddy and looked crap.
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: So I've decided to get some nice flooring put in.
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: So I'm very excited. Toilet went in yesterday. Wow. But
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: having Yeah, the finish isn't as good as I was hoping.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Not the finishes in Finland, but the other finish when
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: you finish a product. Sorry, I'll just have a segue
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: to earlier chat about it.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: So you won't be happy with your finish, but everyone
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: who is finish is happy.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Can I tell a bad joke?
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Fuck? It couldn't be worse than the last.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's pretty bad. Massage parlor. Four blokes, one's going in,
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: one's leaving, one's already inside, and one's just waiting out
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: the front. What are their nationalities? Ah?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Well, is this you know where a family? You know
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: where a Christian podcast?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Aren't you?
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Come on?
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: You can cut this out. The one going inside is Russian,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: the one already inside is him Alayan, the one leaving
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: is finish, and the one waiting at the front it's Harps.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: He's waiting for the light to turn green.
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: You're a dickhead, all right, Thank you, see your mate,