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Kim “Skipper” Corbin · Destination Unlimited with Victor Fuhrman

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Speaker 1: My name is Victor Furman. Some call me the Voice.
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Speaker 1: I've always been fascinated with human nature, spirituality, science and
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Speaker 1: the crossroads at which they meet. Join me now and
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Speaker 1: we will explore these topics and so much more with
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Speaker 1: fascinating guests, authors and experts who will guide us to
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Speaker 1: Destination Unlimited. I am thrilled to share that my very
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Speaker 1: first guest on Destination Unlimited from March of twenty sixteen,
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Speaker 1: Kim Skipper Corman, joins me again this week to share
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Speaker 1: her amazing path. Kim is the publicity director and social
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Speaker 1: media manager of New World Library. She's also been a
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Speaker 1: passionate promoter of the benefits of adult skipping since nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety nine via her i skip dot com website, which
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Speaker 1: offers an information source and gathering place for people all
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Speaker 1: over the world who enjoy a good skip. She's working
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Speaker 1: on her own book about what she's learned through skipping
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Speaker 1: all these years, and tonight you will also share about
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Speaker 1: the blessings of the Unicorn. Please join me in welcoming
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Speaker 1: back to Destination Unlimited, Kim Skipper Corbyn. Welcome back, Kim.
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Speaker 2: Thanks so much, Victor, it's a joy to be here
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 1: Kim, you were the first guest on my first show
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Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen. Welcome back. It's so nice to
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Speaker 1: have you back. And you also recently celebrated a milestone
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Speaker 1: at New World Library. Please share with our listeners meeting
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Speaker 1: you for the first time your early path and how
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Speaker 1: your career evolved.
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Speaker 2: Wow. My early path, well, my early I grew up
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Speaker 2: in the Midwest in Indiana. I went to Purdue University,
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Speaker 2: but I did not have a very good college experience.
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Speaker 2: I just didn't fit in in college. And then I
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Speaker 2: ended up seeing a career counselor long story short, became
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Speaker 2: a teaching assistant. And then when I had a teaching
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Speaker 2: assistant job, my dad wrote and self published a book
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Speaker 2: called The Edge Resume and Job Search Strategy. And I
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Speaker 2: fell in love with the book and convinced him that
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Speaker 2: he should hire me to help him sell it, and
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Speaker 2: so he matched my five dollars an hour teaching salary,
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Speaker 2: and I taught myself the book publishing industry. And then
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Speaker 2: I met a guy, amazingly enough in an Aol chat
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Speaker 2: room in nineteen ninety six who lived in San Francisco
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Speaker 2: and ended up getting an entry level publishing job from
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Speaker 2: Indiana and moved to San Francisco, and now you know,
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Speaker 2: there's like a we'll get to some of the middle
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Speaker 2: stuff that happened in there. But now for twenty years
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Speaker 2: I've been at New World Library. I'm currently the publicity
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Speaker 2: director there and working with authors like Eckertole and Shottigwayne
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Speaker 2: when she was still with us, and just thought leaders
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Speaker 2: that are helping to shift consciousness on the planet in
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Speaker 2: a more positive direction.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely now, I opened our first interview by sharing the
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Speaker 1: exact following words. With all of the heavy news in
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Speaker 1: the world right now, how about skipping back to something
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Speaker 1: we love to do as kids, skipping. My guest, Kim
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Speaker 1: Skipper Corbyn a social media manager, book publicist by day,
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Speaker 1: and passionate promoter of the joy of adult skipping by night.
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Speaker 1: She created the I Skip dot com website in nineteen
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Speaker 1: ninety nine when she started skipping as an adult and
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Speaker 1: decided to invite the rest of the world to join her. Kim,
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Speaker 1: what inspire you to create eskip dot com and inspire
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Speaker 1: everyone else to start skipping?
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Speaker 2: It's it is my calling, It's my primary calling in
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Speaker 2: this lifetime is to share the joy of skipping with
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Speaker 2: the world. I can say that now twenty five years
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Speaker 2: and quite the hero's journey in that this is just
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Speaker 2: something that it's my dharma, it was meant to be.
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Speaker 2: And the first time that I skipped as an adult,
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Speaker 2: I had a complete download, intuitive download is what I
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Speaker 2: call it, where I thought, oh my gosh, I can
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Speaker 2: get my friends to skip with me. I could use
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Speaker 2: my publicity skills to get some publicity and then people
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Speaker 2: would feel brave enough to skip. And over the course
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Speaker 2: of the last twenty five years, that is that vision
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Speaker 2: has come true and taken me for a creative ride
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Speaker 2: that I could not have even possibly imagined, including ending
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Speaker 2: up at New World Library. And it's it's been a long, strange,
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Speaker 2: wonderful skip.
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Speaker 1: And what do you offer on i skip dot com?
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Speaker 2: I skip dot com is just the home of the
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Speaker 2: worldwide skipping movement. It has all of the latest skipping
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Speaker 2: new For instance, just recently, an Olympic trainer, a coach
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Speaker 2: named Stuart McMillan was on the Huberman Lab podcast and
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Speaker 2: he is really into sprinting and apparently skipping is one
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Speaker 2: of the best exercises you can do if you want
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Speaker 2: to be able to sprint and run full out and
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Speaker 2: so he was promoting skipping on there. So the current
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Speaker 2: first thing you see when you hit the website is
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Speaker 2: that right now. And then other people that I've met
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Speaker 2: along the years that have done skipping accomplishments are in
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Speaker 2: the Skipping Hall of Fame. There's skip tips and videos
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Speaker 2: and people's testimonials about why they love skipping, and it's
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Speaker 2: just it's all things skipping wonderful.
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Speaker 1: Now, what was your life like before you rediscovered adult skipping.
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Speaker 2: Well, I moved. I'm from Indiana, like I said, and
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Speaker 2: so I was a lot of Midwestern sensibilities were the
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Speaker 2: starting point for me. And shortly after I moved to
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, I went to Burning Man for the first time,
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Speaker 2: and Burning Man completely shifted everything for me. It really
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Speaker 2: helped me understand that I could be a creative participant
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Speaker 2: in each moment of my life. And my first year
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Speaker 2: at Bernie Man was nineteen ninety seven. There was a
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Speaker 2: big sign on center camp that said no spectators, like
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Speaker 2: everyone should be participating and that has stuck with me
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Speaker 2: even after that very first Burning Man. I made a
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Speaker 2: promise to myself that I was going to do whatever
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Speaker 2: I could for me to greet life with the same
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Speaker 2: way that the mindset that I had discovered there, even
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Speaker 2: though the rest of the world hadn't yet discovered how
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Speaker 2: great it is to live life that way. It really
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Speaker 2: completely shift shifted my philosophy in a major way.
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Speaker 1: And for those of us who are east of northern California,
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Speaker 1: tell us what the Burning Man is about.
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Speaker 2: Burning Man is a festival that happens in the desert
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Speaker 2: every year. It's about an hour and a half from Reno,
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Speaker 2: and it is we build a black rock city is
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Speaker 2: it becomes i think the third largest town in Nevada
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Speaker 2: during the week of the event, and it's a fully
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Speaker 2: operational town where everyone just gifts and brings the things
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Speaker 2: that the town needs to to to thrive. And there's
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Speaker 2: lots of big scale art and artists and it's a
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Speaker 2: gifting economy and it's it's pretty incredible. You look at
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Speaker 2: the website, you'll see that the amount of art that's
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Speaker 2: out there, and it's in a very intense environment that
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Speaker 2: really puts you in touch with your body and ways
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Speaker 2: that we would never never know in our air conditioned
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Speaker 2: existence in the regular world.
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Speaker 1: And who is the man who burns.
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Speaker 2: The man is? It's an effigy it's a bit in
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Speaker 2: this in the middle of the town, there's a gigantic
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Speaker 2: neon man that kind of oversees everything and it burns
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Speaker 2: at the end. And it started Larry Harvey way way
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Speaker 2: back in the eighties on Baker Beach in San Francisco.
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Speaker 2: He and some friends had done a burning man and
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Speaker 2: it was representing like a right of change, right of passage,
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Speaker 2: new beginnings, and so that's kind of the larger symbolism.
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Speaker 2: And each year, for a lot of people, it's their
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Speaker 2: new year every year. I just went for the first
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Speaker 2: time in nine years last year, which was great. And
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Speaker 2: it's a much harder to go when you're fifty six
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Speaker 2: than when you're thirty one, which is how whole I
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Speaker 2: was when I first started going.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you're launching the adult skipping movement became a national
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Speaker 1: news story. What coverage did this receive and how did
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Speaker 1: it make you feel?
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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it got so much national publicity. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I'm a publicist, so it was not anything that I
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Speaker 2: was actually like with my authors, where I'm going out
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Speaker 2: seeking it. The publicity came to the skipping movement. I
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Speaker 2: was in People and Time and Newsweek and CNN and
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Speaker 2: the Associated Press on Year's Day and I recruited head skippers.
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Speaker 2: This is really before social media. It was nineteen ninety nine,
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Speaker 2: so Facebook and Instagram and all that wasn't out there yet,
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Speaker 2: but it was one of the first examples of a
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Speaker 2: community coming together in a very specific area via the Internet.
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Speaker 2: And the media largely drove that, Like when the La
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Speaker 2: Times did a story and they said I was looking
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Speaker 2: for someone to head up the LA chapter and then
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Speaker 2: I got a bunch of emails from people. So it
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Speaker 2: was very much a media driven adventure that was beyond
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Speaker 2: my wildest dreams.
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Speaker 1: And how did your colleagues react to this?
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Speaker 2: My friends like mix, I would say, like some people
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Speaker 2: were really into it. I lost a lot of friends
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Speaker 2: along the way where I was changing and growing and
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Speaker 2: they weren't, which I think happens when we're pursuing a dream.
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Speaker 2: And then you know, my colleagues at the Public Shore
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Speaker 2: where I worked with at the time, we're completely into it.
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Speaker 2: And my boss was kind of bummed when I ended
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Speaker 2: up quitting my job because I was so convinced that
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Speaker 2: I'd found my calling that I thought that if I left,
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Speaker 2: the net would follow. My dad used to say, how's
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Speaker 2: the cash registering Kim, and I'd say, it doesn't matter, Dad,
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Speaker 2: the universe will show me. I was very young and
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Speaker 2: naive and did not have a very firm understanding of
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Speaker 2: the gravitas it takes to bring a dream, a big,
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Speaker 2: big dream into the world, and so I've learned a
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Speaker 2: lot about that over the last twenty five years and
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Speaker 2: wouldn't trade it for the world.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting. There was a song by the
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Speaker 1: Woody Blues called Through the Eyes of a Child, and
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Speaker 1: the lyric went, in part, through the eyes of a child,
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Speaker 1: you must come out and see that your world spinning
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Speaker 1: round and through life. You must be a small part
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Speaker 1: of a whole of a love that exists. With the
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Speaker 1: eyes of a child, you will see. That's really what
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Speaker 1: this is about, isn't it?
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Speaker 2: Very much?
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Speaker 3: So?
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Speaker 2: It's being able to get into a place of childlike
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Speaker 2: joy and wonder and curiosity. I mean that, ultimately, is it.
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Speaker 2: And then it's also worth mentioning that alongside that wonderful,
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Speaker 2: magical child is a can be a child that's been
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Speaker 2: pretty traumatized and beat up and hurt by life. And
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Speaker 2: so I just recently had the great honor of interviewing
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Speaker 2: Peter Levine, the trauma researcher, Peter Levine, He's very pro skipping,
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Speaker 2: and part of the reason why is because it helps
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Speaker 2: connect us to that child from a joyful place instead
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Speaker 2: of coming in you know, like with really heavy therapy
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Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It's a way into the into
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Speaker 2: that realm so that we can start to do the
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Speaker 2: healing that we need to do to give the part
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Speaker 2: of our child that was wounded, our inner child that
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Speaker 2: was wounded, the love that she needs.
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Speaker 1: That's something that's something every child needs, isn't it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and every adult.
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Speaker 1: And every adult absolutely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: After more than two and a half decades of the
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Speaker 1: eye Skip movie, how has your life changed?
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Speaker 2: Oh? My goodness, Wow, that's a good question. My life.
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Speaker 2: It's I just I love my life. I just feel
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Speaker 2: like it like I am using my life to make
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Speaker 2: a positive difference. And that's my number one value. That's
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Speaker 2: always been the most important part. That's what the skipping
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Speaker 2: movement helped me experience. And then that's shown up in
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Speaker 2: a lot of different ways over the twenty five years,
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Speaker 2: not just through skipping, but just being open and listening
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Speaker 2: and willing to say yes when the universe gives me
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Speaker 2: creative inspiration and opportunities to do good in the world.
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Speaker 4: I was.
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Speaker 2: I'm a do gooder and proud of it.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. That's interesting that you say that, because throughout my life,
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Speaker 1: one of my blessings has been a series of synchronicities
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Speaker 1: what Carl Jung referred to as meaningful coincidence without causal connection.
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Speaker 1: And one of these opportunities came. One of these synchronicities came.
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Speaker 1: I had three choices. I could say not right now
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Speaker 1: and dismiss it out of hand. I could say, you know,
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Speaker 1: that's interesting, but not for this moment, for the future.
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Speaker 1: Or I can say yes with a capital why and
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Speaker 1: immediately embrace it. And every time I said yes with
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Speaker 1: the capital why, the next one would come, and the
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Speaker 1: next one would come. Did you find that in your life? Also?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely? Absolutely that you know there was a there was
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Speaker 2: this very specific time during the skipping movement where you know,
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Speaker 2: it was for a couple two three years, it was
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Speaker 2: like everything was going really well, and then all of
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Speaker 2: a sudden, I had the book that I was working on,
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Speaker 2: the contract didn't sell, and I was I had to
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Speaker 2: get a job, and I was like feeling very disillusioned
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Speaker 2: and really like asking the universe like why I said yes?
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Speaker 2: Why I thought my reward for saying yes was going
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Speaker 2: to be this straight shot upward of had to fame
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Speaker 2: and fortune, you know. I really that was really hour
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Speaker 2: that I would be rewarded for doing well. And I'm like,
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Speaker 2: I just want to do good. I just want to
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Speaker 2: do good, Like how can I serve? And I was
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Speaker 2: I've made a very specific prayer about that. And then
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Speaker 2: I walked to the gym the next morning and I
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Speaker 2: encountered this woman who was having I didn't know what
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Speaker 2: was going on with her. She was like, it seemed
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Speaker 2: like she was talking in tongues and she was kind
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Speaker 2: of coming up to people and seemed confused. And it's
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, so it's not uncommon for people who were
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Speaker 2: on the street for that to happen to But my
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Speaker 2: intuition just said something like, no, she needs help. And
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Speaker 2: so I went up to her and I said, do
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Speaker 2: you need help? And she did. She was actually in
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Speaker 2: the middle of a major diabetic reaction and like so
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Speaker 2: many people had passed her by, and I like got
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Speaker 2: her and I knew enough from a friend who'd been
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Speaker 2: diabetic to get her a coke to like get her
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Speaker 2: blood sugar, you know, like within a more normal range,
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Speaker 2: and waited for her boyfriend to come and pick her up.
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Speaker 2: And that to me was an answered prayer of the
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Speaker 2: question of how can I serve you? It can be
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Speaker 2: those opportunities come in all shapes sizes, and sometimes it's
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Speaker 2: for a lifetime, like I think. I mean, so many
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Speaker 2: people know me as skipper. I feel like skipping at
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Speaker 2: one way or level, will be with me for my lifetime.
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Speaker 2: But then sometimes it's just for a reason, like helping
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Speaker 2: that woman. And sometimes it's for a season for things
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Speaker 2: that you think are going to last forever and then
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Speaker 2: they don't, but they really served to purpose. So yes,
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Speaker 2: I think that that inspiration comes around. And actually the
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Speaker 2: skipping movement, the first time it came around, I'd said
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Speaker 2: not right now, which is very common for when people
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Speaker 2: have callings come in you can you say not yet,
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Speaker 2: But then if it's meant for you, it does come
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Speaker 2: back around. And I did say yes the second time
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Speaker 2: around on skipping. But I love to say yes whenever
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Speaker 2: I can because it's it always brings just fun and
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Speaker 2: magic and all that jazz.
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Speaker 1: You know. It's interesting what you're shared about that encounter
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Speaker 1: with that woman and helping her. One of the things
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Speaker 1: that I've advocated for years. I'm seventy two now, I've
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Speaker 1: been advocating since I was in my late thirties is
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Speaker 1: that we have to start extending kindness and understanding and
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Speaker 1: help to those who truly need it. And you meet
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Speaker 1: someone on the street and they seem to be in
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Speaker 1: a bad way, and you say, can I listen to you?
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Speaker 1: Do you want to share something with me? I'm here
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Speaker 1: to listen without judgment, without interfering with what you're sharing,
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Speaker 1: to allow you to complete your sharing. How many people
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Speaker 1: start crying and embrace just the simple act of someone
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Speaker 1: offering to listen to them.
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Speaker 2: It's so true. And it's like in our world, we're
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Speaker 2: just so much on our phones, and you know, in
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Speaker 2: our own head and busy worrying about what other people
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Speaker 2: are going to think about us, that it's easy to
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Speaker 2: forget that. But it really is true that the power
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Speaker 2: of that holding space and just listening to someone's story
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Speaker 2: can make such a difference. It actually reminds me. I'm
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Speaker 2: working on a book right now called The Friendship Bench
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Speaker 2: by doctor Dixon Chimbonda, and he starts arted a program
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Speaker 2: in Zimbabwe. He's from Zimbabwe. He's a psychiatrist. There. After
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Speaker 2: one of his patients committed suicide, there was only six
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Speaker 2: psychiatrists for all of Zimbabwe, like one psychiatrist for millions
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Speaker 2: of people, and so he knew he had to figure
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Speaker 2: out a way of giving mental health support in that
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Speaker 2: people could actually like that would help the people. And
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Speaker 2: so he worked with fourteen grandmothers and he started this
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Speaker 2: program where grandmothers sit on a bench and the people
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Speaker 2: come and just get to sit and they're just tick
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Speaker 2: trained in basic cognitive behavioral therapy where it's just like
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Speaker 2: if someone needs more help, they get referred on to
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Speaker 2: medical help. But for the most part, people just need
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Speaker 2: We just need someone to sit with us and hold
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Speaker 2: space and let us be seen and heard and tell
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Speaker 2: our stories. There's so much power in that.
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Speaker 1: Simple acts of kindness. I was blessed with a mother
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Speaker 1: who taught me about kindness. And one of the things
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Speaker 1: she taught me when I was very young is if
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Speaker 1: you go through a door, you hold the door, look
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Speaker 1: behind you, see if someone else is coming. If you
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Speaker 1: see someone, hold the door for them or anyone else's
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Speaker 1: coming behind you, and then let the door shut and
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Speaker 1: that's simple act of kindness. You see people light up
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Speaker 1: today when you do something like that, never expecting that
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Speaker 1: people in this hurried world would take the time to
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Speaker 1: just hold a door for somebody.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and again that's part of what I brought back
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Speaker 2: from Burning Man with me, because Burning Man's very much
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Speaker 2: about that and each moment and each person you're engaging with,
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Speaker 2: how can you bring more creativity and fun and play
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Speaker 2: and magic to the moment, and just kind of thinking
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Speaker 2: in that way like I can. Every little bit helps,
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Speaker 2: and just a smile to someone at the right time
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Speaker 2: can make all the difference in the world.
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Speaker 1: Recognizing someone who's serving you at an a counter or
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Speaker 1: a checkout or something, they're asking them their name, thanking
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Speaker 1: them for their service if they've given you great service,
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Speaker 1: or walking up to someone who seems to be struggling
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Speaker 1: with to take something off an upper shelf and saying
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Speaker 1: may I help you with that? Always with permission, but
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Speaker 1: may I help you get that box or that package?
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Speaker 1: And the smiles that you get and the gratitude that's
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Speaker 1: expressed is just priceless. Yes, absolutely, Now, what are some
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Speaker 1: of the fun ways to put a skip in your step?
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Speaker 2: Oh, let's see well, my favorite thing to do is
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Speaker 2: to go like at the gym and then empty workout
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Speaker 2: room in the morning when there's not a class going on,
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Speaker 2: and pick one song that really like The Fat Bottom
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Speaker 2: Girls by Queen's one of my favorites, and just like
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Speaker 2: put on a song that just brings me, makes me
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Speaker 2: feel silly and it brings me joy, and then just
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Speaker 2: skip around and lift my vibration. And that's my preferred way.
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Speaker 2: I just actually recently, skipping for me largely has been
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Speaker 2: about the fun, free spirited aspect of it, more than
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Speaker 2: going from miles and miles, which some people do. There's
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Speaker 2: people have skipped in the Higher marathon, but for me,
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Speaker 2: it's always been about the fun. But just recently Stuart McMillan,
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Speaker 2: who was on the Huberman Lab podcast, is giving having
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Speaker 2: people do skipping drills where you skip to you know,
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Speaker 2: for like for fifty meters and then turn around and
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Speaker 2: walk back and do that over and over again and
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Speaker 2: do different variations. And so I've been playing with that
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Speaker 2: a little bit, as like skipping intervals with more of
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Speaker 2: a fitness mindset. Sometimes when I'm outside, I'll just you know,
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Speaker 2: skip every time I come to a picket fence, I'll skip.
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Speaker 2: I'll play that as a game. Oh, and crosswalks are
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Speaker 2: my favorite. Skipping in the crosswalks the best because everyone's
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20:45
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week, my dear
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Speaker 1: of the fun ways to put a skip in your step?
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Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite?
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Speaker 2: Well, the cross is skipping in the crosswalk like I
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Speaker 2: like we just said earlier is definitely the is my favorite,
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Speaker 2: one of my favorite ways. And then in the in
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Speaker 2: the workout room, and then you can also skip on
24:55
Speaker 2: the treadmill at the gym. That's something that I recommend
24:59
Speaker 2: that's more advance. It is better to like skip on
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Speaker 2: solid ground first you have to and you can just
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Speaker 2: skip around your living room or skip around your house,
25:09
Speaker 2: or you can ask a kid to skip with you,
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Speaker 2: say I it's been a long time since I skip.
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Speaker 2: Will you show me how to skip again? And then
25:15
Speaker 2: that is a nice way to not just be an
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Speaker 2: adult out skipping around If that makes you feel subconscious.
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Speaker 1: What are the physical emotional and spiritual benefits of skipping.
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Speaker 2: Well, the physical benefits is that it has less impact
25:31
Speaker 2: on our joints. That's than running us and it's actually
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Speaker 2: really good for the fashia. It burns more calories than walking.
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Speaker 2: It makes us feel like a kid. Again, that's the
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Speaker 2: one of the favorite one. But probably my ultimate way
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Speaker 2: that I use skipping as a practice is that, even
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Speaker 2: to this day, twenty five years after I started skipping,
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Speaker 2: I have this internal dialogue that happens and my rational mind,
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Speaker 2: that's job is to protect me and keep me safe, says.
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Speaker 2: It used to say, people are going to think you're
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Speaker 2: crazy adults don't skip. It doesn't say that anymore. Now
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Speaker 2: it's more like you're going to annoy people with your joy.
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Speaker 2: Don't make it all about you. It always has something
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Speaker 2: to say. And then the voice of my heart, the
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Speaker 2: voice of my spirit, loves to skip. And so it's
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Speaker 2: even to this day, it is a conscious choice for
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Speaker 2: me to choose the joy, to choose the voice of
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Speaker 2: my heart, to listen to the joy of my body
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Speaker 2: and follow that and not let my mind that wants
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Speaker 2: to protect me stop me. And over the years has
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Speaker 2: become it's like a meditative practice really of choosing, choosing
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Speaker 2: the joy, choosing that voice, and so I recognize that
26:46
Speaker 2: same pattern and dynamic happening when I do other things,
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Speaker 2: like writing the book I've been struggling to write for
26:51
Speaker 2: twenty five years. That voice will say, really, you're going
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Speaker 2: to try this again. We have been so burned and
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Speaker 2: hurt by this. You're never going to be able to
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Speaker 2: write this book. And then something deep within me that's
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Speaker 2: even greater says, Nope, I've got to do this. I
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Speaker 2: won't be able to rest until I do this. I'm
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Speaker 2: doing it anyway. And then each time that I'm able
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Speaker 2: to actually sit down and not let the rational voice
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Speaker 2: stop me, the spirit, my spirit and the voice of
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Speaker 2: my heart gets stronger, and that allows me to fulfill
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Speaker 2: the work that I'm here to do in the world.
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Speaker 2: So I think that's personally my favorite. And then it
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Speaker 2: just makes the world a happier place. You can't skip
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Speaker 2: without smiling. Most you think that people are going to
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Speaker 2: like make fun of you, but almost always people either
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Speaker 2: ignore you or they're like, ah, skip to my lou
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Speaker 2: way and like things like that. So it really is.
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Speaker 2: It brings so much joy to the world. And if
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Speaker 2: you do it with other people. It's exponential joy. So
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Speaker 2: there's all kinds of benefits of skipping.
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Speaker 1: You bring up an interesting point. You talk about the
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Speaker 1: voice of your heart and strengthening the voice of your heart.
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Speaker 1: How do you differentiate between the voice of your heart
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Speaker 1: and let's say the ego.
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Speaker 2: Voice, that ego logical voice that's trying to protect you
28:10
Speaker 2: is it's it's going to be protection. It's going to
28:13
Speaker 2: be like, oh, be careful, watch out. Have you thought
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Speaker 2: about this. It's very rational, and the voice of our heart,
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Speaker 2: the voice of our spirit, is just it's that that
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Speaker 2: childlike joy that lives in our body. It's the part
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Speaker 2: of us that believes that anything's possible. Still, it's what
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Speaker 2: we would do if we couldn't fail. It's the dreamer.
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Speaker 2: It's it's the part that you know. And then and
28:34
Speaker 2: then it often will trigger that rational side says, oh,
28:37
Speaker 2: but be careful you're gonna do. We don't want you
28:39
Speaker 2: to get hurt. It's like that rational side is really
28:42
Speaker 2: protecting some you know, wounded, traumatized parts of us, and
28:48
Speaker 2: that that it doesn't want us to you know, it'll
28:51
Speaker 2: try and stop us. So the so that magical voice
28:54
Speaker 2: of the child within is really, I think, are the
28:57
Speaker 2: key to our joy, and happiness.
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Speaker 1: Kind of finds me the old cartoon where you'd have
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Speaker 1: the devil in one ear and the angel in the
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Speaker 1: other ear trying to tell you what to.
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Speaker 2: Do right exactly, and then the power comes in our
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Speaker 2: ability to choose and to see what's going on, and
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Speaker 2: then to for whatever the situation is, pick which of
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Speaker 2: those sides. It's not that one's wrong or right. For
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Speaker 2: the longest time, I used to say that it was
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Speaker 2: my inner critic trying to stop me from skipping, and
29:24
Speaker 2: I was going to skip past my inner critic. And
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Speaker 2: I've realized over the years that my inner critic is
29:29
Speaker 2: just doing its job. It's a Bill Plotkin calls it
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Speaker 2: a loyal soldier who's there to defend me, and it
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Speaker 2: really is trying. And as long as I have my
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Speaker 2: own awareness and presence and I can see that that's
29:42
Speaker 2: what's happening, I don't have to demonize it. I don't
29:45
Speaker 2: have to try and squash it, because that doesn't work.
29:47
Speaker 2: I can just thank it for it trying to protect
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Speaker 2: me and then make a choice, another choice from a
29:53
Speaker 2: place of awareness between that angel and that devil that
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Speaker 2: are on our shoulders.
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Speaker 1: In the world that needs to be a happier place.
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Speaker 1: How does skipping come into play?
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Speaker 2: It brings joy and freedom and reconnects us with that
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Speaker 2: childlike innocence that can be in such short demand in
30:14
Speaker 2: the overall world sometimes.
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Speaker 1: And how do we embrace everyone and get them involved?
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Speaker 2: Well, not everyone's going to skip. I had to come
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Speaker 2: to that realization too at some point along the way.
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Speaker 2: But I think it's just encouraging everyone to embrace their
30:28
Speaker 2: own uniqueness and the things that bring them joy. Not
30:33
Speaker 2: everyone's going to be a skipper, but everyone has something
30:36
Speaker 2: from their childhood or just the little simple pleasures that
30:41
Speaker 2: make them happy and bring them joy. In today's world,
30:44
Speaker 2: our joy is a revolutionary act, and our world needs
30:48
Speaker 2: people who are loving life and choosing joy and remembering
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Speaker 2: the magic that's there alongside with just the all the
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Speaker 2: craziness that's going on, which we talked about in our
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Speaker 2: first interview. And now look it seems it's like compared
31:04
Speaker 2: to then, it's like it's even crazier now. So the
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Speaker 2: world needs that joy more than ever.
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Speaker 1: I was going to say, not much changes the list, ye,
31:14
Speaker 1: And what do you say to people who, shall we say,
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Speaker 1: are skip? Curious.
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Speaker 2: Well, I would say take it slow, find a friend,
31:23
Speaker 2: skip around your house at first. You know, like you
31:26
Speaker 2: don't have to be out skipping all around, but just
31:30
Speaker 2: know that you're just just give it a try. It's
31:33
Speaker 2: like riding a bike. Well, actually that's not totally true.
31:36
Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw on TikTok last year,
31:38
Speaker 2: there was this TikTok skipping challenge where people would ask
31:42
Speaker 2: older people in their lives to skip again, and so
31:45
Speaker 2: many people couldn't do it. There's like it's really it's
31:47
Speaker 2: you can lose hours on TikTok if you if you
31:51
Speaker 2: search for the hashtag skipping challenge.
31:54
Speaker 1: Just out of curiosity. I had my left knee replaced
31:57
Speaker 1: back in September of last year, and that I had
31:59
Speaker 1: to have it done, does that inhibit me from skipping again?
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Speaker 2: I would ask your doctor about that. My husband just
32:06
Speaker 2: had both of his hips replaced at the same time,
32:09
Speaker 2: and in that case with his I don't know about knees.
32:12
Speaker 2: Both his hips he was given skipping clearance from his doctor,
32:17
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure with knees. But you always should
32:20
Speaker 2: listen to your body and if there's any question, you know,
32:23
Speaker 2: ask ask your doctor what they suggest absolutely.
32:26
Speaker 1: Back in nineteen sixty two, Shel Silverstein, the writer and
32:32
Speaker 1: singer and songwriter and the comedian, penned the song the
32:35
Speaker 1: Unicorn Song. It was a hit for the Irish rovers
32:39
Speaker 1: and the lyrics started a long time ago when the
32:42
Speaker 1: earth was green and there were more kinds of animals
32:45
Speaker 1: than you've ever seen. They'd run around free while the
32:48
Speaker 1: earth was being born. But the loveliest of them all
32:52
Speaker 1: was the unicorn.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I love that song.
32:56
Speaker 1: That song implied that in the modern day, the unicorn
32:59
Speaker 1: was to be seen anymore. But I understand that you
33:03
Speaker 1: have rediscovered the unicorn. Please tell us about the movement
33:07
Speaker 1: you started cheering about a little bit before. Tell us
33:08
Speaker 1: about the movement.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, so let's see this. I started in a
33:14
Speaker 2: group here in my hometown of Petaluma, California, called the
33:17
Speaker 2: Unicorn Blessing Brigade, And it came to be because my
33:21
Speaker 2: friend and co organizer Tracy, sent me a TikTok video
33:26
Speaker 2: of a bunch of people at a fortieth birthday party
33:28
Speaker 2: and they were all writing those costumes that it looks
33:32
Speaker 2: like you're writing an animal, like your back legs are
33:36
Speaker 2: the animal's back legs, and then your hands are like
33:39
Speaker 2: on the reins. And there was like there was unicorns,
33:42
Speaker 2: and there was flamingos, and there was cow, there was
33:44
Speaker 2: all chickens. There's all different kinds. And when I saw
33:47
Speaker 2: the video, I had an inspiration that you know, that calling,
33:52
Speaker 2: that inner call to do something fun. And I've always
33:55
Speaker 2: loved unicorns, and I heard of unicorns is called a
33:58
Speaker 2: blessing and when you see a unicorn, it's supposed to
34:02
Speaker 2: bring good luck. So I live in a very fun
34:05
Speaker 2: small town, smallish town, not really small, it seems small,
34:09
Speaker 2: but it's a big town. And I put out a
34:12
Speaker 2: Facebook evite and said calling all unicorns. And it was
34:15
Speaker 2: actually the day that Roe versus Wade got overturned, which
34:19
Speaker 2: I remember just because it was really significant the night
34:21
Speaker 2: that it happened, and I encouraged everyone to get riding
34:25
Speaker 2: unicorns and said, I want to ride around town to
34:28
Speaker 2: bless the people that we encounter along the way. All
34:31
Speaker 2: of us either dressed as unicorns, are on riding unicorns,
34:34
Speaker 2: and we had forty people come out. It reminds me
34:37
Speaker 2: of the really skipping days and the events I used
34:39
Speaker 2: to do back then, and then ever since then we
34:42
Speaker 2: have been a group that rides around town, and we
34:46
Speaker 2: have about twelve people that are very consistent group people,
34:50
Speaker 2: and then we have new people come in always. And
34:52
Speaker 2: we're about to have our third anniversary here in Pedaluma
34:56
Speaker 2: on Friday the thirteenth, and then I'm taking this show
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Speaker 2: on the road to New York. New York starts spreading
35:02
Speaker 2: the news. We're gonna do a Unicorn Blessing Brigade through
35:07
Speaker 2: Central Park. And my friend Michelle Joni, who I know
35:11
Speaker 2: because she started Michelle Joni's Skipping Club in New York
35:15
Speaker 2: many years ago, probably fifteen years ago now or something
35:18
Speaker 2: like that ten years ago, she happens to have a
35:22
Speaker 2: unicorn bus called Glinda the Good Bus, which looks like
35:26
Speaker 2: a unicorn, it has a horn on it. It's just
35:29
Speaker 2: and she like drives people around, like for bachelorette parties
35:32
Speaker 2: and all parties. So we're going to be Glinda the
35:35
Speaker 2: Good Bus and the Unicorn Blessing Brigade are joining forces,
35:39
Speaker 2: and we're gonna meet at fifty ninth and Columbus Circle
35:42
Speaker 2: and then we're gonna at the beginning of all of
35:44
Speaker 2: the Unicorn rides, we go around and everyone talks about
35:47
Speaker 2: what aspect of positive energy they're bringing to the ride.
35:50
Speaker 2: Our only intention is to share joy and positivity. It's
35:54
Speaker 2: not a protest, it is a celebration. It's a positive
35:58
Speaker 2: energy pep rally. And so we're going to start at
36:01
Speaker 2: fifty ninth and Columbus Circle with Glinda. We'll go around
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Speaker 2: and do our opening circle, and then we're going to
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Speaker 2: ride through the park and we're going to end up
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Speaker 2: at the Imagine Mosaic where the Glinda the Good Bess
36:12
Speaker 2: will meet up with us again, and then some people
36:15
Speaker 2: will board Glinda and everyone else will follow her and
36:18
Speaker 2: we're going to go to a place for a happy
36:21
Speaker 2: hour afterwards. So I'm really excited to see what happens.
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Speaker 1: That's wonderful. Now, does everyone who attend to have to
36:31
Speaker 1: have a unicorn costume?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not, Like everyone's welcome. We will have like some
36:37
Speaker 2: like little plastic and other unicorn horns for people if
36:41
Speaker 2: they don't have anything they want to you know, unicorns,
36:44
Speaker 2: and or you can just come and join the fun
36:46
Speaker 2: and you know, frolic alongside us if you want to.
36:49
Speaker 1: And how can those who are going to be in
36:50
Speaker 1: the area and like to attend, how can they register
36:52
Speaker 1: for this?
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Speaker 2: There's an on event if you go to event bright
36:56
Speaker 2: and search for Unicorn Blessing Brigade Central Park will come up.
37:00
Speaker 2: And also on Facebook, there's a Facebook event page as well,
37:03
Speaker 2: Unicorn Blessing Brigade on Facebook.
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Speaker 1: And that's going to be June twenty second, is that correct?
37:08
Speaker 2: That's June twenty second, Sunday, June twenty second, from two
37:11
Speaker 2: to five pm.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful. That sounds like such a grand time. And I'm
37:16
Speaker 1: hoping I can't guarantee you'll be there, but I'm hoping
37:18
Speaker 1: I get a chance to see you there and say hello.
37:20
Speaker 1: That that would be love.
37:21
Speaker 2: That would be amazing. Yeah, you can just come at
37:23
Speaker 2: the beginning, or like, even if you don't make it
37:25
Speaker 2: to the beginning, you could go. I think it's going
37:30
Speaker 2: to be a place called Plia Betty's where we're going
37:32
Speaker 2: to go for a happy hour after, So that'd be great.
37:34
Speaker 2: Any You're welcome at any point along the way.
37:36
Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
37:38
Speaker 9: So.
37:38
Speaker 1: You had mentioned this book that's been fighting you for
37:41
Speaker 1: several years. What's the concept of the book.
37:44
Speaker 2: The book is called Skipping the Life Fantastic Ten Things
37:49
Speaker 2: I learned about Joy, Fear and making a difference by
37:52
Speaker 2: inviting the world to skip and it has and is
37:56
Speaker 2: been a labor of love, tortuous label of labor of love.
38:03
Speaker 2: And for the first time in you know, I've been
38:06
Speaker 2: writing it for twenty years and one form or another,
38:08
Speaker 2: and I worked with a developmental editor last year, and
38:13
Speaker 2: I have it. It's like, really, the body of the
38:16
Speaker 2: book is there, and I'm just going through and filling
38:19
Speaker 2: it in and doing some I'm actually working with the
38:22
Speaker 2: hypnotherapist right now to just help me like go as
38:25
Speaker 2: deep as possible within my subconscious to get to help
38:30
Speaker 2: the parts of me that need healing heal so that
38:32
Speaker 2: I can see this all the way through. So it's
38:35
Speaker 2: it's pretty exciting. I'm I'm working on it a little
38:38
Speaker 2: bit every day and I'm I'm I have faith that
38:42
Speaker 2: this will be the time, but it could be ten
38:44
Speaker 2: more years, you know, like we'll see.
38:47
Speaker 1: You called it a labor of love. It really sounds
38:49
Speaker 1: like you're in labor. Is that true?
38:50
Speaker 2: Literally, like twenty five twenty years of labor, no joke.
38:56
Speaker 1: So let's touch upon some of the points that you're sharing.
38:58
Speaker 1: The first point is the magic happens outside of our
39:02
Speaker 1: comfort zone.
39:03
Speaker 2: Yes, And this is kind of what I was talking
39:05
Speaker 2: about my first burning Man. I almost didn't go to
39:08
Speaker 2: my first burning Man because it was clothing optional. I
39:11
Speaker 2: was so scared to go. And if I went, and
39:15
Speaker 2: I it got to experiment with a whole new, different
39:17
Speaker 2: part of my personality. And then that was where the
39:21
Speaker 2: really the magic started happening in my life. And I
39:23
Speaker 2: think that I'm actually listening right now to Joe Despens's
39:27
Speaker 2: book How to Break the Habit of Being Yourself, And
39:30
Speaker 2: in order to create change in our life, we have
39:34
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39:38
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39:42
Speaker 2: starting to think about how how can we change so
39:44
Speaker 2: that we can welcome the magic we want into our lives.
39:47
Speaker 1: And we were talking before about the voice of the heart.
39:51
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39:55
Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, And this is just really taking the time
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40:03
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40:06
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40:09
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40:23
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40:27
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40:30
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40:33
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40:37
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40:40
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40:44
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40:48
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40:52
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40:56
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40:59
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41:03
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41:06
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41:11
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41:15
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41:18
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41:21
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41:23
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41:26
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41:29
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41:31
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41:33
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41:38
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Speaker 1: Back on Destination Unlimited. My guest this week my dear
44:56
Speaker 1: friend Kim Skipper Corbin Kim. Some of the additional points
45:00
Speaker 1: that you wanted to discuss in your book. You will
45:03
Speaker 1: annoy people with your joy. Why do people get annoyed
45:06
Speaker 1: at your joy.
45:08
Speaker 2: Well, if you are not feeling your own joy and
45:12
Speaker 2: someone you know has a lot of joy, it's it
45:15
Speaker 2: can be triggering. And I mean when I first started
45:19
Speaker 2: the skipping movement, I was voted the moro on of
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Speaker 2: the month on a website and bring down dot com.
45:25
Speaker 2: Some of my friends, like I had to move find,
45:29
Speaker 2: you know, make new friends because a lot of them
45:31
Speaker 2: couldn't go forward. So it's just it's just that will happen,
45:36
Speaker 2: and it's be joyful anyway. The Paradoxical Commandments, that's what
45:40
Speaker 2: it's called, So Kent Keith actually wrote them, and it's
45:43
Speaker 2: and it's attributed to mother Teresa often and it reminds
45:46
Speaker 2: me of that, like you will annoy people with your
45:48
Speaker 2: joy and be joyful anyway, and and just be be
45:53
Speaker 2: prepared to protect yourself from that, I think is important
45:55
Speaker 2: to do. When I very first started the skipping movement,
45:58
Speaker 2: I can remember I was like enthusiastic telling this cab
46:00
Speaker 2: driver about it and he said, well, has anyone like
46:03
Speaker 2: been negative about your idea yet? And I said no,
46:06
Speaker 2: And he said, well, well you know, what are you
46:08
Speaker 2: going to do when they are? Because they will And
46:10
Speaker 2: it just kind of got me thinking about it. I'm
46:13
Speaker 2: like even eckhart Tole we published The Power of Now
46:15
Speaker 2: at New World Library, and like there's the most hateful
46:19
Speaker 2: thing on his wall. So it's just part of it.
46:21
Speaker 2: But it should not be a reason that we stop,
46:24
Speaker 2: because the world needs our joy more than ever. And
46:26
Speaker 2: I think it's also being aware that too bright of
46:29
Speaker 2: a light is blinding, and so you also need to
46:32
Speaker 2: know your audience and and have compassion for where people
46:37
Speaker 2: are and maybe like you know, like not have your
46:41
Speaker 2: dimmer switch all the way up to ten. Depending on
46:43
Speaker 2: who you're talking to.
46:45
Speaker 1: You say that divine timing can be a real bitch.
46:50
Speaker 2: Yes, this is my twenty five years of labor basically.
46:55
Speaker 2: You know, when I first started the skipping movement, I
46:57
Speaker 2: just thought that, like I said earlier, it's going to
46:59
Speaker 2: just be this straight shot upward and it was going
47:01
Speaker 2: to be like, Yay, everything is great. And it has
47:04
Speaker 2: been a hero's journey, including a dark night of the
47:06
Speaker 2: soul that really has forced me to go deep, deep,
47:10
Speaker 2: deep within and the only way out is through and
47:14
Speaker 2: that can take a really long time. I think we
47:16
Speaker 2: want the divine timing to happen on human time and
47:20
Speaker 2: that's just not how it works, but it's still a
47:22
Speaker 2: worthwhile pursuit anyway.
47:24
Speaker 1: You say you can only go as fast as your
47:27
Speaker 1: slowest self.
47:29
Speaker 2: I love this one. This one was Karen Drucker has
47:32
Speaker 2: the musician has a song that I heard at an
47:35
Speaker 2: author event that I was at that says this, I
47:38
Speaker 2: will only go as fast as my slowest self feels
47:41
Speaker 2: safe to go is her lyric. And I am a
47:44
Speaker 2: very high achieving, enthusiastic, go get her, get her done
47:50
Speaker 2: girl like that has always been who I am. And
47:53
Speaker 2: through my force of my will, I can make things happen.
47:56
Speaker 2: And when it comes to writing my book and this
48:00
Speaker 2: inner journey that I'm on, I finally realized that that
48:03
Speaker 2: part can only take me so far. And she was
48:06
Speaker 2: really overcompensating for a part of me that was really
48:09
Speaker 2: struggling feeling worthy. Like when the skipping movement started, I
48:12
Speaker 2: was like, why is this happening to me? I just
48:15
Speaker 2: did not have the self confidence and and and over
48:18
Speaker 2: the years I have realized that I, my inner mother
48:22
Speaker 2: needs to just come in and love that part of
48:26
Speaker 2: me that was that was wounded. And so this chapter
48:28
Speaker 2: is really about honoring the parts of us that are
48:32
Speaker 2: that have been wounded and then giving them what they
48:35
Speaker 2: need so that we can can love them and move forward.
48:38
Speaker 2: But it's not going to just happen by the sheer
48:41
Speaker 2: force of your will.
48:42
Speaker 1: Maybe, And you touched upon this before, and this can
48:45
Speaker 1: apply to anyone who has a calling. You say, we
48:50
Speaker 1: can be called for a reason, a season or a lifetime.
48:55
Speaker 2: Yes, And you hear this about relationships a lot. Relationships
48:57
Speaker 2: happen for a reason, a season or lifetime. That's what
49:00
Speaker 2: you think of it. And it's like when we first start,
49:02
Speaker 2: when a new creative inspiration comes through, it can be
49:05
Speaker 2: we immediately think it's going to be forever. Or when
49:08
Speaker 2: we find a new community that feels like home, it
49:11
Speaker 2: seems like it's going to last forever. And and over
49:13
Speaker 2: the years, things change and shift and some things are
49:17
Speaker 2: just not meant to be around forever. They have an
49:19
Speaker 2: expiration date, and that's okay because there's always more inspiration
49:23
Speaker 2: coming in. And so I just really like the idea
49:26
Speaker 2: that you know that it doesn't have to be like
49:29
Speaker 2: you're looking for your calling. Like I feel very lucky
49:31
Speaker 2: that I've gotten my skipping calling. It's I mean, it's
49:34
Speaker 2: been a journey, it's been challenging in a lot of
49:35
Speaker 2: ways to have my lifetime calling. But even if there's
49:38
Speaker 2: not like this big sense of lifetime calling, we can
49:41
Speaker 2: make make a difference through kindness, random acts of kindness
49:45
Speaker 2: and simple gestures and and so that's really what I'm
49:48
Speaker 2: trying to shine a light on in this chapter.
49:51
Speaker 1: And skipping is a powerful medicine.
49:54
Speaker 2: Yes, I saved that for last, because, like I said,
49:57
Speaker 2: I have realized over the years, even though you know,
50:01
Speaker 2: encouraging people to skip has been very important to me,
50:04
Speaker 2: that it doesn't have to be. You don't have to skip.
50:06
Speaker 2: So I put skipping last, even though it's probably the
50:09
Speaker 2: most important one to me personally, to really out outline
50:13
Speaker 2: all of the amazing benefits of skipping that I've discovered
50:16
Speaker 2: over the last twenty five years.
50:19
Speaker 1: And you share a few fun ways to skip the
50:21
Speaker 1: light fantastic. One of them is to skip through the
50:24
Speaker 1: crosswalk when cars are waiting for you.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the best time. They're they they're there and
50:30
Speaker 2: they just want to you know, you got to get
50:32
Speaker 2: through quickly, and it's it's a win win.
50:36
Speaker 1: And how do you get them to wait for you?
50:39
Speaker 2: Well, they have to wait. They're sitting at this at
50:41
Speaker 2: you sitting there in the car, and then you can
50:43
Speaker 2: walk slowly while they wait, or you can just break
50:46
Speaker 2: into a skip and then you're across the crosswalk faster
50:49
Speaker 2: and they get to go.
50:50
Speaker 1: Not in New York City, maybe in Califor.
50:52
Speaker 2: I remember that when I'm there.
50:56
Speaker 1: You say, ask a kid in your life to skip
50:59
Speaker 1: with you.
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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, this is It's like training wheels. If you
51:03
Speaker 2: don't feel comfortable skipping, you go up to a kid
51:06
Speaker 2: and say, I don't remember how to skip? Will you
51:08
Speaker 2: show me? And they will just take you by the
51:11
Speaker 2: hand and and you there's so much we have to
51:14
Speaker 2: learn from kids, and I think like empowering them to
51:17
Speaker 2: know that, like they have a lot of value that
51:19
Speaker 2: we need that we can learn from too.
51:22
Speaker 1: And you say that show kids that adult life can
51:25
Speaker 1: be fun.
51:26
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, be the fun crazy aunticle.
51:31
Speaker 1: And you talk about stealth skipping skip one all need
51:34
Speaker 1: nobody's looking.
51:35
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, this is for the shy skippers of the bunch.
51:39
Speaker 2: You can just like look around and then just skip
51:41
Speaker 2: in and no one will see you.
51:43
Speaker 1: Now. Long distance skipping, what do you define as a
51:46
Speaker 1: long distance?
51:47
Speaker 2: People skip miles at a time? Uh On. Stuart macmillan
51:52
Speaker 2: was saying he skips. I think he said, like forget
51:54
Speaker 2: how many miles every morning, So you know, people do
51:57
Speaker 2: long distances and they and someone and there's there's world
52:00
Speaker 2: records for people skipping an entire marathon. It's not my
52:03
Speaker 2: cumpan teeth, but you can do it.
52:05
Speaker 1: And what are skipping intervals?
52:08
Speaker 2: Skipping intervals are just skipping for short amount of time,
52:12
Speaker 2: so you can like do it for like fifty meeting,
52:14
Speaker 2: you know, set up at fifty yards and just skip
52:17
Speaker 2: and then walk back and skip and then walk back,
52:19
Speaker 2: so you're just doing them in short bursts. Or you
52:22
Speaker 2: can skip for twenty steps, walk for ten steps, skip
52:26
Speaker 2: for twenties, walk for five also all set like my
52:30
Speaker 2: interval timer, so thirty seconds on, thirty seconds off, back
52:34
Speaker 2: and forth between the two.
52:36
Speaker 1: And for someone who just wants to improve their mood,
52:38
Speaker 1: you say, skip ten steps to shift your mood in
52:41
Speaker 1: a more positive direction.
52:43
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a quick way to just I like to
52:45
Speaker 2: do that on interviews. Just encourage people to just just
52:48
Speaker 2: try skipping ten steps to see how it feels.
52:50
Speaker 1: Again, And you say skip from the beginning to the
52:53
Speaker 1: end of one song that makes you happy. And in
52:56
Speaker 1: my head, I'm hearing it makes you happy at that.
53:01
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, And if you can't physically skip, skipping is
53:05
Speaker 2: very much a state of mind. So I lead laughter
53:08
Speaker 2: yoga circles. That's another one of my fun little callings
53:11
Speaker 2: as I'm a laughter certified laughter leader and we'll do
53:15
Speaker 2: a skipping song. But people like being able to actually
53:18
Speaker 2: get that bounce in their step is like some people
53:20
Speaker 2: can't do that anymore, So you can just use your arms.
53:22
Speaker 2: You can just like bounce with your arms. It's really
53:25
Speaker 2: about the levity and the joy more than actually having
53:28
Speaker 2: to do the step hop step up thing.
53:30
Speaker 1: Tell me a little more about laughter yoga. I'm not
53:32
Speaker 1: familiar with that one.
53:33
Speaker 2: Lafter yoga was founded by doctor Kataria in India, and
53:38
Speaker 2: it is everyone's in a circle and then there's a
53:42
Speaker 2: mantra that goes ho ho ha ha ha ho ho
53:46
Speaker 2: ha ha ha. That's kind of the glue, and then
53:49
Speaker 2: the leader introduces the kind of of yoga of laughter.
53:53
Speaker 2: So let's say we did a cocktail party laughter, and
53:59
Speaker 2: then everyone I'll say, okay, cocktail party laughter, and then
54:02
Speaker 2: everyone walks around and goes whoo, and they're like pretending
54:07
Speaker 2: they're at a cocktail party. Laughing, but it like immediately
54:11
Speaker 2: becomes real because it's so silly. And then once we
54:15
Speaker 2: do that for a while, then I go ho ho
54:17
Speaker 2: ha ha ha ho ho ha ha, And then everyone
54:20
Speaker 2: gets back in a circle, and you introduced a different
54:23
Speaker 2: kind of laughter. So it's again a way of kind
54:25
Speaker 2: of activating those you know, fun, silly, playful muscles that
54:31
Speaker 2: maybe we don't get to use as much as we
54:34
Speaker 2: did when we were kids.
54:35
Speaker 1: And you say, group skips equal exponential happiness.
54:40
Speaker 2: Absolutely, skipping with people and a big group of people
54:43
Speaker 2: is just is so much fun. I highly recommend it
54:47
Speaker 2: if you're out with the group of friends too. I mean,
54:49
Speaker 2: that's how I first skipped, is that my friends Todd
54:51
Speaker 2: and Rudy. Rudy said come on, let's skip, and he
54:54
Speaker 2: just went skipping down the street in front of us,
54:56
Speaker 2: and me and Todd looked at each other like what,
54:59
Speaker 2: and then we started it's skipping. And then that was
55:01
Speaker 2: where it all started for me. Was all because Rudy
55:04
Speaker 2: thought of that. So anytime you're out with some friends,
55:06
Speaker 2: you can just like try it and see what happens,
55:08
Speaker 2: see who follows you.
55:10
Speaker 1: So everyone in the skipping movement can thank Rudy is
55:13
Speaker 1: that what you're trying to say.
55:14
Speaker 2: Yes, it all because of Rudy.
55:17
Speaker 1: My guest, my dear friend, Kim Skipper Corbyn. Kim, one
55:21
Speaker 1: more time, please tell our listeners where they can find
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Speaker 1: out more about I skip dot com and all of
55:26
Speaker 1: your offerings there, the book you're working on and the
55:28
Speaker 1: event coming up in Central Park.
55:31
Speaker 2: I skip dot com is this kind of the mothership.
55:34
Speaker 2: And then as far as the event in Central Park,
55:37
Speaker 2: there is on event bright you could search for Unicorn
55:41
Speaker 2: Blessing Brigade Central Park and same with on Facebook that
55:45
Speaker 2: there's a Facebook event page for that as well.
55:48
Speaker 1: Kim, thank you so much for joining us again for
55:51
Speaker 1: nine years later from the original time we were together
55:54
Speaker 1: doing these interviews. I am so grateful to you for
55:57
Speaker 1: your message and for your big big heart.
55:59
Speaker 2: Thank you, ah, thank you, Victor skip On, thank.
56:03
Speaker 1: You, and thank you for joining us on Destination Unlimited.
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Speaker 1: I'm Victor the skipping boy Sperman. Have a wonderful week.