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Chuck & Buck 10-24 Hour 1: We are in a dark place... ABCs of the Mariners and is JSN the best? · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Friday. This crowd is going nuts.
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  Speaker 1: All right, good Friday morning to you. Welcome into the
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  Speaker 1: radio program. It is Chuck Powell, it is Ashley Ryan
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  Speaker 1: with you know Buck here. Today's out for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days, and so you got us for four hours
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  Speaker 1: here on this Friday morning, lovely Friday morning, getting ready
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  Speaker 1: for a what looks to be a damp weekend. Don't
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  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 3: I think more than damp, we're supposed to get like
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  Speaker 3: an over an inch of rain.
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know what this is where this is
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  Speaker 1: where Ashley and I probably are the closest in our
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  Speaker 1: love for fall, yeah, and our love for dry fall weather.
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  Speaker 1: To enjoy the leaves.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I really do like the leaves in it.
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  Speaker 4: And it was a little windy the other day and
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  Speaker 4: I thought, oh, what's gonna happen?
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  Speaker 3: But they seemed to kind of hold on and they
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  Speaker 3: were just blowing. And now I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know what's gonna happen. They we're gonna have some soggy
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  Speaker 1: leafage at our feets. And I don't like that. All
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  Speaker 1: that beauty that it really is sort of just a sad,
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  Speaker 1: sad representation. You take all that beauty and then you
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  Speaker 1: just wet it and damp it and just rip it
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  Speaker 1: from its root and there it is underneath your feet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you just step on it.
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  Speaker 1: Two days ago, this was gorgeous and I was staring
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  Speaker 1: at it, enjoying a cool fall breeze and having a
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  Speaker 1: cup of coffee and a pumpkin scone. And now now
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  Speaker 1: look what our life has been.
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  Speaker 3: Now look now, look at all the rain in our forecast.
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  Speaker 4: I can't wait to sit and watch softball in it.
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  Speaker 1: Is that your weekend? Yes? Oh geez? Yeah, oh boy.
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  Speaker 3: The tournament all weekend long.
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  Speaker 1: Did Nickerson, by the way, sell out his venue for Saturday?
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if he did or not. I know
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  Speaker 3: I think he sold out there.
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  Speaker 1: Not friends with us, He made it very clear he's
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  Speaker 1: only friends with Ashley.
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  Speaker 3: Well, we were texting the.
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  Speaker 1: Other day, yeah, exactly, of course.
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  Speaker 3: And I told him that I couldn't make the show
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  Speaker 3: about that. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 4: I could give you his phone number, you could text him,
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  Speaker 4: and then he'd probably really be more excited to be
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  Speaker 4: your friend.
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  Speaker 3: Than my friend. But I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: I should ask him, because you know his show. He's
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  Speaker 4: got two shows tomorrow at the Neptune. They're going to
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  Speaker 4: be awesome, and that's perfect to do on a rainy weekend,
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  Speaker 4: go to a comedy show.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Yeah, Well, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I'm going to make it. I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to make it. Maybe that's why I'm not
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  Speaker 1: his friend and you are. Well, I can't make it.
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  Speaker 3: I have to watch softball all weekend long.
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  Speaker 1: But you've got things you have to do.
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  Speaker 4: You can come watch softball and then you can tell
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  Speaker 4: him I have to go watch softball all weekend long.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah that sounds Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We welcome into the show. It has sort of been
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  Speaker 1: a week of healing in a lot of ways as
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  Speaker 1: we kind of come to grips. We've gone through the
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  Speaker 1: different stages of getting over getting knocked out of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: and with a World series starting tonight, we got another
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  Speaker 1: stage to get to. That's kind of the acceptance stage
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  Speaker 1: that Okay, we're gonna watch the World Series or not.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I'd really like to watch show hey o
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  Speaker 1: Tani play in the World Series, But that's about it.
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  Speaker 1: Really don't want to watch anything else about it. I
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  Speaker 1: don't want to hear Dave Roberts talk about how he's
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  Speaker 1: excited that the Dodgers are ruining baseball. I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see the Toronto Blue Jay's happy. I mean, so,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a torn feeling. I wish you
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  Speaker 1: people wouldn't have ever made me emotional about baseball. I
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  Speaker 1: was doing just fine till I moved here. I know,
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  Speaker 1: thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 4: I do feel bad because I remember too when I started,
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  Speaker 4: you were like, I'm not an emotional sports fan, and
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  Speaker 4: I've watched the progression over the last couple of years
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  Speaker 4: as you get just as emotional, not just I wouldn't
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  Speaker 4: say just, but you do let emotions play a part, yes,
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  Speaker 4: in your Mariner's watching. And I'd like to just pretend
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  Speaker 4: that the World Series isn't happening.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I guess you got that option. I am
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  Speaker 1: curious how I react because it's Friday. I'm really looking
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  Speaker 1: forward to, like a lay back weekend. Because I haven't
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  Speaker 1: had one in a while. Yeah, and I've got Martini Night.
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  Speaker 1: I think that we're going full scale on that perfect
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  Speaker 1: and I always put on usually while we're playing music,
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  Speaker 1: I'll put on a sporting event on mute and just
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  Speaker 1: have it in the background, so, you know, in between
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  Speaker 1: dance sessions, and yes, I do dance during Martini Night,
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  Speaker 1: why wouldn't you. In between dance sessions, I'll pause and
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  Speaker 1: you know, just to I feel like I'm accomplishing a
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  Speaker 1: lot at once, and I'm not a great multitasker to
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  Speaker 1: begin with. So it's really a great feeling, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm you know, enjoying a Martini, dancing, listening to music,
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  Speaker 1: and watching a sporting event all at the same time,
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  Speaker 1: and socializing really with the Unicorn, even though that's way
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  Speaker 1: down the list. So so yes, So I don't know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna put on. I really don't. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I will be moved by the moment because
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  Speaker 1: I am such a steam head and just I got
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  Speaker 1: to give in and watch show a take on the
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  Speaker 1: Blue Jays. I don't know if I'll do that or
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  Speaker 1: if I'll flip it to Big ten college football. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I'll watch that. Yeah, maybe I'll watch a little NBA
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  Speaker 1: since it's back into our lives. I don't know, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how I'm going to approach it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to know until like six
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  Speaker 1: pm tonight. Yeah, I'm sure it will be five is
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  Speaker 1: when the World Series.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure it will be on at our house.
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  Speaker 4: But luckily for me, I get softball practice in the
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  Speaker 4: fifth grade Halloween dance tonight. Oh so, I but if
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  Speaker 4: it makes you feel better, I did already have a.
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  Speaker 3: Dream about it.
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  Speaker 1: You already have made me feel better, because no matter
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  Speaker 1: what I do tonight, it's better than that. It's better
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  Speaker 1: than that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I did have I did already have a
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  Speaker 4: dream about Game one of the World Series. I had
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  Speaker 4: this not last night, the night before. Uh, Toronto wins
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  Speaker 4: Game one, so oh really in my dream?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was.
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  Speaker 1: Your third grade teacher there playing second base.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was really odd because it was actually just
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  Speaker 4: all about the game. And then I was watching the
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  Speaker 4: game and it was really close, and I was getting
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  Speaker 4: really annoyed because I didn't want Toronto to win, and
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  Speaker 4: then they ended up winning at the end.
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  Speaker 1: So just a run of the mill. You're watching the
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  Speaker 1: World Series dream like you weren't barefoot or anything.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing strange, and my dreams are weird.
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  Speaker 1: You aren't making out with cal Raleigh again.
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  Speaker 3: No, not this time in the stands. In the dream
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  Speaker 3: where I was his second.
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  Speaker 1: Girlfriend, we never made out. Okay, that's right, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: I added that. Yeah, maybe I wanted that for you
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  Speaker 1: in your dream. Probably did ye, I appreciate that, But
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  Speaker 1: no a tricycle and the outfield or anything.
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  Speaker 4: Just sitting on the couch next to me and I
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  Speaker 4: was just getting all of them that Toronto was going
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  Speaker 4: to win, and then they won.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that is a true nightmare, then I think it
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  Speaker 1: might have been. Yeah, maybe the nightmares. Maybe our worst
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  Speaker 1: nightmares are the ones that are so realistic and then
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  Speaker 1: they are go so against the grain. Yeah. I can't
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  Speaker 1: even believe I'm even rooting for the Dodgers, because I
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  Speaker 1: do think their Dodgers are ruining baseball. Yeah, I do too.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want them to win. I don't want Toronto
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  Speaker 3: to win.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to root for the Dodgers in this Canada,
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  Speaker 1: all right. Well, yeah, we got a lot to figure
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  Speaker 1: out emotionally about how we're going to proceed with all.
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  Speaker 3: We're in a tough spot.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we're in a dark place. Yeah, well so
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  Speaker 1: is the NBA as well. I mean, our show plan
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  Speaker 1: got a little disrupted at the beginning, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 1: everybody's show nationally got disrupted. Doesn't matter if you're a
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  Speaker 1: local sports show, national sports show, international sports show. The
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  Speaker 1: NBA scandal breaking right before we came on the air
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  Speaker 1: yesterday certainly impacts every sporting fan out there. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't really get a lot of the conversation where
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  Speaker 1: I thought that it was gonna go yesterday. It maybe
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  Speaker 1: we're just so used to scandal now. And I'm not
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  Speaker 1: just talking about in the sports world, just in life
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  Speaker 1: in general. You know, maybe we're so used to it now.
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  Speaker 1: I mean that it didn't rock us the way that
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  Speaker 1: I thought it would. It kind of felt to me
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  Speaker 1: like everybody was treating this as an isolated incident and
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  Speaker 1: more of a hurdle, you know, maybe a larger hurdle
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  Speaker 1: than normal, but more of just like, well, the NBA's
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  Speaker 1: got to do the right thing, you know here, and
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  Speaker 1: was it should? Did the NBA screw up by letting
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  Speaker 1: Rogier play that seemed to be the conversations. I mean
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  Speaker 1: when it first happened to me, because I've been around
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  Speaker 1: this industry for a long time. In the past, it
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  Speaker 1: always went to is this going to rock the fans
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  Speaker 1: trust in what they're watching? I mean, they just went
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  Speaker 1: ahead and played NBA games last night, and people went
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  Speaker 1: ahead and made their bets. The whole world just continued.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, scandal or not. And this was a monster scandal.
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  Speaker 3: This is not small.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of the biggest ones of my entire career,
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  Speaker 1: my entire lifetime. Yeah, and yet I think maybe that
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  Speaker 1: is it that people are just so used to scandal
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  Speaker 1: that it just it just rolls right off our backs
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  Speaker 1: these days.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and maybe, but I I.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was trying to wrap my head around it yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I was explaining some of it to my mom about
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  Speaker 4: it's not even just a sports scandal, like this is
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  Speaker 4: just a big like this was a massive investigation and
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  Speaker 4: bust arresting like thirty eight people over eleven states.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's a big damn deal.
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  Speaker 4: And then you add in the fact that it was
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  Speaker 4: involving sports and rigging, you know, prop bets and things
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  Speaker 4: like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know that doesn't roll off my back.
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  Speaker 4: That that's it's crazy to me that the NBA did
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  Speaker 4: clear Terry Rosier and they're like.
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  Speaker 3: Well, okay, yeah, he's fine, and then the FBI is like.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, I mean, we're you going to talk about
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  Speaker 1: for a long time. But it's almost like we just
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  Speaker 1: all right. So Chauncey Billups is done and Terry Rogier's done. Yea,
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  Speaker 1: Damon Jones are They're all done. They're never will never
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  Speaker 1: see them again. I'm not saying they won't ever breathe
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  Speaker 1: free air again, but they're done. Their basketball careers are
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  Speaker 1: over with. But because the thirty eight other people were
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  Speaker 1: not sports figures that got arrested yesterday, and because the
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  Speaker 1: NFL Thursday night football, everybody kind of went through their routine.
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  Speaker 1: I did not watch. I did not go to the
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  Speaker 1: bar last night, so maybe that did affect me a
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  Speaker 1: little bit. Usually I go on Thursday. I think that
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  Speaker 1: has more to do with me just trying to catch up.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, basketball was on, and then I mean
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  Speaker 1: they didn't. They spent time on it on inside the NBA,
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  Speaker 1: and good for them. I wasn't sure on day number
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  Speaker 1: two how Charles and company were going to be allowed
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  Speaker 1: to handle it, but ESPN did not interfere with their
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  Speaker 1: candid nature, which was a relief. It doesn't look like
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  Speaker 1: they're going to try to edit or see what those
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  Speaker 1: four guys say going forward, So that was good. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing they really got heated about was Kenny
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  Speaker 1: trying to play the addiction card and Charles did not
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  Speaker 1: want to hear it. That was the only thing they
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  Speaker 1: even got heated about. For the most part, everybody on
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  Speaker 1: the set kind of was in agreement that the three
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  Speaker 1: people responsible, you know, their surprise because they knew them personally,
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  Speaker 1: but shame on them, and you know, you betrayed us
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  Speaker 1: and you betrayed the league. That seemed to be the
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  Speaker 1: sentiment on the set, with Kenny trying to defend them a.
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  Speaker 4: Little bit, right, And yeah, and I actually did say
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  Speaker 4: the same thing when I was explaining to my mom, like, well,
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  Speaker 4: because she's I don't understand why people do this, I said, well,
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  Speaker 4: addiction or gambling is an addiction.
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  Speaker 3: And I kind of just came out and then.
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  Speaker 4: I thought to myself, but they weren't really the ones gambling, right.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's to me, So I am not an addictive personality,
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  Speaker 1: and so It's always been hard for me to sort
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  Speaker 1: of I can sympathize, I can't empathize with what an
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  Speaker 1: addictive person ghoster. I've been around plenty of them. I
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  Speaker 1: always so I'm always like, Okay, I get the drug
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  Speaker 1: and alcohol, the chemical. You're introducing new chemicals into a body.
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  Speaker 1: How are they going to react to your chemicals? Heredity
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  Speaker 1: has something to do with it. Your genes have something
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  Speaker 1: to do with it, whether or not it's in you
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  Speaker 1: to be an addictive personality because of those that came
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  Speaker 1: before you. I get all of that, like the it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of rearranges your thought processes, and so, okay, I
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  Speaker 1: get that one. So it was a harder leap for
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  Speaker 1: me to go to the sympathy for the gambling addict.
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  Speaker 1: But I do understand it. Your brain releases chemicals of
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing, and so over time I've been able
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  Speaker 1: to say, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're craving that high and winning, right, you're craving it.
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  Speaker 1: You got to be a part of it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And Okay, So now I've developed over time like sympathy
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  Speaker 1: for that and recognition of how debilitating that that is
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  Speaker 1: and how it can destroy and wreck people. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, but this isn't Terry Rosier
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  Speaker 1: and Chauncey Billups couldn't wait to make a bet to
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  Speaker 1: get their fix. These are two people. I mean, was
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  Speaker 1: he also he's addicted to gambling? Is he also addicted
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  Speaker 1: to acting like he's a bad basketball player? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: is Chauncey Billups also addicted to rigging poker games and
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  Speaker 1: keeping an association with known criminals? Is that an addiction?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, at one point, I'm sure that if he
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  Speaker 1: was involved early in his life that he felt scared
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  Speaker 1: and man, I you know, maybe he was in their debt.
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  Speaker 1: This guy made two hundred million dollars in his career.
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  Speaker 1: How could he have not paid that debt off by now?
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  Speaker 1: How is he still associating with them at this point?
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  Speaker 1: Terry Rogier makes twenty six million dollars a year, So
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  Speaker 1: I mean, maybe if you're going to tell me there
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  Speaker 1: addicted to the high of criminal behavior, maybe. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: we watch movies all the time, like The Sting's one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite movies of all time, and we love
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  Speaker 1: the characters. We love Paul Newman, we love Robertt, Robert
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  Speaker 1: Redford in that and they win the day, and they
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  Speaker 1: they outsmart the other criminals and everything else. But they're criminals,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they've been painted by Hollywood as people that
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  Speaker 1: we should like. And so, I mean, you can like
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  Speaker 1: Chauncey Billups like apparently everybody in his life does. Nobody
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  Speaker 1: has a bad word to say about Chauncey Billups. But
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's not acting criminally. That doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: he's not stealing and bilking innocent people in his thirst
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  Speaker 1: to satisfy whatever adrenaline that creates for him.
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  Speaker 2: He is.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean he's addicted to acting criminally, then are
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  Speaker 1: we supposed to have sympathy for that too. Otherwise, let's
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  Speaker 1: let all the serial killers out. They're just addicted to
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  Speaker 1: killing people. It's no big deal. Yeah, I mean, pickpockets
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  Speaker 1: are just addicted to no big deal. Let them all out.
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  Speaker 1: So look, I mean, I will go ahead and accept
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  Speaker 1: the fact that there are people out there, and I
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  Speaker 1: know you weren't waiting on me, but that there are
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  Speaker 1: people out there that need that I need that adrenaline rush.
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  Speaker 1: Had to place that bet you know, fell behind a
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  Speaker 1: little bit or got ahead a little bit and have
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  Speaker 1: to just keep feeding it. But it shouldn't then also
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  Speaker 1: affect you betraying your friends, your boss, your business, your
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  Speaker 1: sport that has made you a millionaire over and over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over again. I mean that to me
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  Speaker 1: can't be put in an addictive category. There are elements
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  Speaker 1: of Rogier and Chauncey that are no doubt addictive, but
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  Speaker 1: that should end at I can't keep myself from placing bets.
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  Speaker 1: It should not be I'm addicted to ruining other people's lives.
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  Speaker 1: I am addicted to betraying my friends, my co workers,
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  Speaker 1: my industry. That to me is not addiction. That's just
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  Speaker 1: you're an a hole. Yeah, and you might be able
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  Speaker 1: to be nice to other people, but you are at
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  Speaker 1: the root of you a criminal, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to see you around anymore.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, at the root of you, you are not a
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  Speaker 4: good person because you brought you knowingly scammed people. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you're no better than the people that are you know,
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  Speaker 4: sending text messages or calling elderly people and trying to
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  Speaker 4: get them to give them their life savings.
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  Speaker 3: Right, like, you are no.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Better than that, right, I agree?
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: And so but that was it was funny because when
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: I said that to my momm yesterday, and then all
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: of a sudden, I was like, wait a minute, this
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: situation like in Chauncey Billips case too. You know, he's
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: part of these poker games. He's also telling people information
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: about his players and that they're tanking games.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: And then you know when that's.
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: Not public and it's not made public till thirty minutes
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: before the game, that somebody's out and these people are
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: making thousands of dollars off that information.
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I mean that is fully illegal.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, and you are you are abusing your place to profit.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you have not seen the movie, and I think
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: this should be illegal as well. I think you should
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: be arrested for not seeing Guardians of the Galaxy.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I should.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the movie there's an exchange
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: between because they're all the Ravagers the they're actually kind
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: of criminals who've decided to fight evil okay together, and
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: so they get to the end of you know, hopefully
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: spoiler alert, and at the end of the Raccoon Rocket, Yeah,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: he's telling John c Riley, who plays a cop, like
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: but what if I want it more than the person
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: who owns it? And he's like, no, that's stealing and
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: that's pretty much illegal, because no, no, you don't understand
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: what if I want to what if I have to
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: kill him in order to have it, Like, that's murder,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: and that's one of the worst crimes out there. So no,
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: you can't do that. But we shouldn't have to. Yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't if somebody doesn't know those simple rules.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing, they know those rules. They
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: just didn't care.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: They just didn't care. Yeah, and they and their stories
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: that Rogier was counting the money with the criminals and
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: at his house and smiling and laughing and everything else.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: And so I don't know, it kind of feels to me,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: and I know this is the way the NBA wants
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: it to be. Like, this is not a big scandal.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: This is an isolated case with a few individuals connected
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: to the NBA who got in with the wrong people,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: and now they're gonna pay the price. We'll see. I
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: kind of thought yesterday that it would affect the rest
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: of professional sports in some way, But I think we're
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: so used to scandal now in our lives that maybe
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: we just blow it off. Maybe we just went right
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: back to, oh, well, watch football tonight. I'm gonna just
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: trust it justin Herbert's not gonna throw the game away. Yeah,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I know that.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: Like ESPN on their are other on get Up or whatever.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: They were talking about it and then quickly deleted the
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: ESPN bet.
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, the bottom, but I wonder if it's back today.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: They were very careful with all their gambling sponsors, and
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: we've got tons of them too, so but but yes,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: they were very careful with that, and maybe you don't
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: have to be. I mean, why are you trying to
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: hide that? Yeah, I mean you're you've.
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Started out in the open legally.
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: Right right, right? All right, let's find out what's on
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: tap for the rest of our show today. What's on tip?
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: What's on tap? Okay? So, the Oklahoma City Thunder back
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: to back double overtime games and wins to start the season.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: I guess that's never happened before that a team has
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: started the season with two double overtime victories. I think
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I overheard that. If that's not accurate, I'm sorry I
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: didn't look it up in research. I believe it though, Yeah,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I would too. Thursday Night Football, the Chargers just mop
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: the field with the Minnesota Ikings thirty seven to ten.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: The final score. Vikings aren't good, Chargers are and the
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Chargers had to get back to playing good football. So
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: they did it last night. That's a win for Factor fiction. Yep.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: When I was watching, I was like, well done.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: All right, thank you. I appreciate that. Seven thirty five, Ashley,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we'll pick Factor fiction today. Charles Davis is going to
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: join us. Without the Seahawks playing this weekend, they are
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: on buy, we might as well talk to an NFL guy,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: national guy, and he's so kind, So he's going to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: join us at seven o five today to preview the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: NFL weekend bad games on Sunday, by the way, one
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: of the worst schedules I've ever seen as an NFL fan.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, the best thing you're looking at. Chicago at
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Baltimore might be the best early game, and that's a
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: one in five team. Dallas and Denver's a decent game.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: And then the Sunday night game, the Aaron Rodgers Bowl.
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: It'll be Green Bay at Pittsburgh, Husky's host to Illinois. Saturday,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: twelve thirty eight, thirty Hanks Show begins. Rick new isl
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: We skipped him on Tuesday because we had baseball to discuss,
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: but He's been kind enough to join us here on
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: a Friday, so you won't miss your Rick new Isel
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: conversation here on Chuck and Buck will chat with him
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: at nine. The Cracking with a really nice win. Six
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: game road trips are not easy, and usually that last
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: game is the hardest one. But after back to back losses,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: the Cracking got it together. Joey Decord was perfect, Jayden
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Schwartz had two goals and an assist, and the Kraken
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: went over the Jets three to nothing. Really enjoyed Ian
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and Allison last night. Kind of watched the whole damn
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: thing last night. They were great in the pregame after
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: and intermissions. Edmondton at Seattle tomorrow at Climate Pledge Arena
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: at seven o'clock. Sounders will start their playoff Monday at
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: six against Minnesota United. We're gonna spend some time on
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: that Monday and World Series Game number one tonight at
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: five o'clock Snell versus Y Savage. Meanwhile, the Mariners said
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: goodbye for the season yesterday. Depoto Hollander Wilson all met
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: with the media. We're going to do a little bit
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: on the base on the Mariners today as well, and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: we're going to start the offseason. Bucky's not ready to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: do it, but he's not here. I am ready to
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: do it. So we're gonna kind of go player by
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: player today, not consistently every segment, but we're gonna do
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: a little snapshot of most of the key players for
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the Mariners heading into the off season, and we'll incorporate
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: that into the ABCS of the MS next Sports Radio
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• 22:21
  Speaker 1: of the MS. I told you in the previous segment
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: if you're just joining us, that we're gonna spend a
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: little time just sort of just a little snap shot
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: heading into the offseason. I know it's a long offseason,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: we got plenty of time to talk about. We're not
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: even close to the hots. No, we're not even through
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: the World Series yet, but just I know it's on
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: people's minds. So just a little snap shot kind of
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: player by player heading into the off season. And we'll
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: allow the alphabet to be the guide through a couple
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: of things to get us started, and we left all
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: of the letter R yesterday are is for Raleigh. Now.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Fortunately we don't have to worry about cal rally being
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: on the roster. He has signed long term. Even if
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: he hadn't been signed to the exten and he would
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: still be under contract. So cal Raley will be a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Mariner and if they trade him, everyone will be arrested
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: at the organization. Yeah, so cal Raley, we don't have
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to worry about his future. It is a sound but
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: he will be mentioned here. In about a month from now,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: we'll be getting into award season and certainly everybody's wondering
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: is cal Raley going to win the MVP. My guess
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: is he's going to finish second, but I think it
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: is going to be an extremely close vote. Of course,
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: all of us here in Seattle think that he should
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: win it, and I think that. I don't think I'm
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: being biased and saying that, I mean, have a historic
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: season like he had from the catcher position. I mean,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: they're just some things that Aaron Judge I realized that offensively,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: he had a more complete season than what cal did
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: batting average, on base percentage, and so he has some
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: offensive number that kind of trump I mean, I just
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: kind of I mean, they're just they dominated this year
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: significantly better than Col's and everybody in Major League Baseball
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: and under normal circumstances, that's an MVP. But Aaron Judge
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: does not play catcher. Aaron Judge does not call games
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: for the pitchers every single night. Yeah, and so I mean,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: to me, it's cal Raley your MVP. I do think
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: he's got a shot. I probably put it at like
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: forty three percent shot at winning the MVP. But it
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: feels like Aaron's the favorite right now, and that's that's
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: just wrong.
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it does feel like he's the favorite. I don't
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: think he should be. I understand why. I mean, he's
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: an amazing baseball player. I understand his merits, all of it.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: I just think not enough is being put into the
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: fact of what col does aside from hitting, and it
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: should be a massive part of the calculation.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, everybody's putting giving it credence, everybody's giving it credibility.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It's just are you giving it enough? Yeah?
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: I don't think That's what I don't.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Think has happening exactly. It's like yeah, yeah, yeah, he.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: Plays every day. Like that's kind of how they talk
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: about it, like.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's maintaining the pitching or you know, doing calling
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: games all these things.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, that's a big damn deal.
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Now. The other thing about the ours for Raleigh is,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you know, I heard a lot of people throughout the year,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: we can't waste this historic season. Well we didn't. I mean, yeah,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we didn't make it to the World Series. But Aaron
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Judge got knocked out in the first in the second
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, I mean, we made it further
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: than that. I mean, it's a regular season thing. Yes,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: he had a historic season, but the playoffs, if you
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: don't understand by now, it's just a completely different animal. Yeah,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't matter if he hit ninety home
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: runs during the regular season. You still got to win
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: as a team in the postseason. You got to take
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: advantage of breaks that you're given, you got to overcome
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: breaks that go against you. There's a lot that goes
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: into winning a playoff series. So his history season really
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: didn't you know, it was? It did? It wasn't wasted
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: because we wanted a vision we gotta buy. We made
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: it all the way to the ALCS, So no, it
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: was not wasted. It's a regular season accomplishment though, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: it doesn't matter how historic of a regular season you
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: had run the postseason begins. It's just a completely different animal. Yeah,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: as this for second base, I know I hear a
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: lot of people like, what are we going to add?
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: What are we going to add in the offseason, i'd
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: prepare yourself. I don't think there's gonna be a lot
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: of additions to this team. And I know people are
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: going to lay that on payroll. I'm going to lay
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that a little on payroll. We know what we're up again,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: we know how this ownership operates, but also where we
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: really they have a lot of confidence in the guys
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: that they already have. So do we go out there
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: and overspend for the best second basement on the market,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: I mean Bob Baschett. They believe it is going to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: be moved to second base by next year. He's a
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: free agent. Do you go out and get a Bob
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Baschett and make him your second baseman? Well, they got
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: an awful lot invested in Cole Young being the future
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: at second base, and even though he wasn't great this year,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: there was certainly a lot you saw where I kind
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: of like him. I think he is He's going to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: be good. I don't think he's ever going to be great,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: but I think he's going to be good for a
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: long period of time. They like Ryan Bliss, who lost
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: the season to injury. Leo Revas ended up being put
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: in our starting lineup for the last few games of
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the season, so there's obviously something there. And Jorge Polonko.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: We wantje Polonko back, right Well, they tried him at
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: third base, it was a failed experiment. Second base in
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: DH is probably where he's going to fit if we
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: bring him back next year. So I don't think there's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: going to be some high cost or high expenditure on
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a second basement. I think they're going to stay in
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: house with this position, with Polonko being re signed and
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: with Cole Young pretty much being your everyday second basement.
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: And I'm okay with that, honestly, because they came to you.
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: I do want Polanco back, and I like to see
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: the young guys, you know, getting the opportunity and making
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: the most of it.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Look, you have to. Everybody does it, even the Dodgers
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: do this. You know you want to. You want to
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: fill out your entire lineup with inexpensive young players that
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you can keep for years to come, and then you
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: fill in the cracks with Okay, well, that didn't quite
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: work out. So who can we get and how much
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: does it going to cost us to get that guy
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: to play third base or right field or whatever the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: case may be. But if you can solve it, even
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the Dodgers will do this. If you can solve a
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: position with a young player under years of control, who
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: you think is good now and has great upside, you
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: go with that. Yeah, everybody does that. So it's not
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: a sin to sit here and say, let's bring Polonko back.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: He can play second, maybe third, certainly DH, but Cole
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Young's our future at second base, and we don't want
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to interfere with that. Yeah. And finally, just quickly, t
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: is four Toronto. Here's another thing I heard throughout the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: entire process about the Blue Jays and why they were
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: so dangerous, and that, oh, they just do such a
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: great job of putting the ball in play. Yes, something
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: we've been screaming about for years that we wanted to
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: see the Mariners do a better job of. And they
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: did it this year. And I think a lot of
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: the credit goes to Kevin Seitzer and Edgar Martinez and
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a change in offensive philosophy. But a few years ago
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: we tried. The front office tried to cut a couple
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of guys that struck out way too much and brought
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: in a couple of guys that they felt theoretically weren't
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: going to strike out as much. And Mariner fans lost
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: their minds, how can we get rid of Gino and
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Taoscar Hernandez for Mitch Garvin, Hora Polanco And in the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: first year it didn't work. We struck out even more.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: And yet that was what they were trying to accomplish,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: was to bring in guys who could be productive, who
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: could hit the long ball, who could drive in runs
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: but not strike out as much, so we could put
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: the ball in play. So, you know, if you want
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: a team that looks like Toronto, then you got to
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: sacrifice guys like Gino Suarez from your roster to bring
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: in guys that make contact. So what do you really want,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Mariner fans, what do you really want at this position?
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: You seem to hate Ben Williamson and that guy put
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: the ball in play. He just didn't hit home runs
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: like Gino does. So what do you want from them
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: going forward? Because, believe me, those scrappy guys like Andre
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Samenez that put the ball in play. They're cheaper than
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: the guys that hit home runs. So you know, we
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: could go down that road. But the last time we
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: tried to go down the road, number one, it didn't work,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: and number two, you lost your minds before before we
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: even conducted the experiment. So yeah, I understand the merits
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: of an entire lineup that is good at putting the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: ball in play, but sacrifices have to be made in
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: other areas in order to get that done. All right,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're gonna talk some Seahawks football and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: one of the juicy topics this week about what might
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: be the best receiver in the National Football League. Sports
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three KJRFM all first down, looking
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: for the end zone. Course it's stiff the chickbaw with
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: the catch and then he slams the football over the
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: upright to celebrate the touchdown. Jesn even makes fifteen yard
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: penalties look cool. I know, right, that was awesome. I mean,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: I've seen the slam dunk over the goal posts plenty
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: of times in my life, and now they've made it illegal,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and I think it's because it makes the goal post crooked,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: and it just is an inconvenience for everybody. Yeah, but
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: nobody's made it look cooler than what he did because
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: he hung on the rim and he did it left handed,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: and he did it spread eagle, and then he just
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: kind of looked around at everybody to say, I might
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: be the best receiver in the National Football League and
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: no one's talking about it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And he's like, but I'm gonna hang here for
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: a minute. Yeah me.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Oh, He's like, take a pick, man, Yeah, I like
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: a fine lot.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: What a fine from John Schneier. My goodness. I mean,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I think he was the number one wide receiver on
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: their board in that draft, but for him to have
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: fallen to them at that point, I mean, I get it.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, Jamar Chase is amazing, and Justin Jefferson is amazing,
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that JSN doesn't already belong in
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: the same conversation. He is one hundred and ninety yards
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: ahead of Jamar Chase in receiving yards this year. Jamar
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Chase is second in the National Football U almost two
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: hundred yards. We've only played seven games and he's almost
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: two hundred yards ahead of Jamar Chase, who gets targeted
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: twenty times a game by the Bengals. Now he doesn't
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: have Joe Burrow, hasn't had Joe Burrow all season long.
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: But that hasn't stopped them from targeting him constantly. And
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: I realize that that's become a bit of a topic,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: and I get exactly where Hugh Millan is coming from.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: You might be stunting Tory Orton's growth. You could potentially
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: risk Cooper Cup getting aggravated. Hey, I came here, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to win, but I also like to be targeted. I
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: don't know if that's going to really affect Cooper Cup
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  Speaker 1: all that much. I don't think he has quite that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's counting his targets. Maybe he's,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: you know, complaining a blue streak behind the scenes. I
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: have no idea, but I do think there is something too.
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  Speaker 1: If he's that special, then I don't know if you
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: do have to worry about targeting him too much. If
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: he's getting open that easily, don't you want to throw
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  Speaker 1: it to the most sure handed, best playmaker that you
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: have on your roster. I know Hugh whose argument bears
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of merit that yes, probably for the greater picture,
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: we do have to spread the ball around a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more, But I really don't want to come at
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: the expense of JSN targets, because he comes through every time.
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  Speaker 1: He's that good. He is exceptional. He might be already
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  Speaker 1: on the top shelf of wide receivers in the National
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  Speaker 1: Football League, and he could be just getting started. Who
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: knows how good this guy's going to become.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of think of him too as like
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: a mix between DK and Tyler Lockett. And last year
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: everybody was like, oh, is he only getting open because
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: DK's you know, being double.
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  Speaker 1: Timed, demanding so much attention.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: So much attention.
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  Speaker 4: But his size and his quickness reminds me more of
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: like Tyler Lockett's ability to make some really incredible catches,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: and just kind of the chemistry that Russell Wilson and
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Tyler Lockett had is it is kind of what we're
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: seeing a little bit with Sam Darnold and with JSN.
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  Speaker 4: And then also though just the pure gil that DK had,
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: not the athletic not the size and athleticism that DK had, but.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: He was more skilled than DK.
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: Well yeah, yeah, sorry, but I'm saying the size and
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: the ability to just kind of overtake people, he doesn't
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: have that, but he's got I mean, he's just he's
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: incredible to watch.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we've got quite the gift. So JSN just
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: having a phenomenal season and Ice he just keep going
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  Speaker 1: to it.
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to change things. Yeah it's working.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I want I want our tight ends
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: more involved, and I want Cooper Cup to be happy,
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: and I want to develop Tory Horton. But I don't
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: know if I want any of those things more than
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: I do. JSN getting thrown the ball when he's open, Yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: because he's just incredible. Wow. All right, Charles Davis, we'll
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: ask him about JSN in our next segment. He's pinchitting
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