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Daughters are Golden · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: This is Almost Famous Podcast.
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  Speaker 3: We have a very special episode today, a very unique episode,
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  Speaker 3: something we don't get to do very often, right because
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  Speaker 3: there's only one show that we can really do it
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  Speaker 3: with in this kind of format. Ashley, tell all of
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  Speaker 3: our listeners who we have today.
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  Speaker 4: We have Natalie who is Pascal's daughter, and we have
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  Speaker 4: her here today to give us all the deeds about
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  Speaker 4: her dad. Listen, we are so compelled by him, so
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  Speaker 4: we're so excited to know what it was like growing
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  Speaker 4: up with him and how he uses a dad. So
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  Speaker 4: can we start with like day one, the.
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  Speaker 5: Day one from birth?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I have to say growing up with him is
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  Speaker 6: he honestly was like the best dad. He is very energetic,
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  Speaker 6: as you guys can tell. So we were always doing things.
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  Speaker 6: We went to every Disney on Ice show. Obviously, my
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  Speaker 6: hair was always pristine. Was actually the one to always
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  Speaker 6: do my hair in those cute little butterfly clips and
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  Speaker 6: those tight cute ponytails.
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  Speaker 5: He was a great dad growing up.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, your dad owns a salon? Is it a medspo?
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, okay, it.
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  Speaker 3: Is Okay, hold up, I need to pause you there though.
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  Speaker 3: Is it multiple because we don't have to get into
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  Speaker 3: his personal finances or how you two have lived in
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  Speaker 3: the world, But at least from the first couple of weeks,
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  Speaker 3: it would seem that this medspa has done very well
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  Speaker 3: for him.
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  Speaker 5: It has done very well.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, he started with one downtown, so that's the one
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  Speaker 6: that he had when I was younger.
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  Speaker 5: Then yes, in Chicago.
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  Speaker 6: Then he opened another one in the suburb, and then
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  Speaker 6: he closed both of those and then opened a big one,
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  Speaker 6: and then he started to kind of branch out and
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  Speaker 6: then realized that he didn't really want to franchise, and
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  Speaker 6: now he just has the one and he's like semi
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  Speaker 6: retired and he only works a couple days a week
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  Speaker 6: now and travels a lot.
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  Speaker 4: So so did he start out as a hair stylist?
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  Speaker 5: He started sweeping the floors?
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  Speaker 4: Actually amazing, that's right. He told us that on the
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  Speaker 4: one episode, the one date.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he was an assistant.
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  Speaker 4: What drew him to esthetics? And has he always been
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  Speaker 4: so metrosexual? Which we have kind of retired that word,
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  Speaker 4: but your dad fits it perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess would you categorize him as like metro
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 6: Say that he definitely cares about the way he looks
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  Speaker 6: and the way he dresses and his appearance.
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  Speaker 5: For sure. Yeah, would I don't.
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  Speaker 6: I don't know if he can say he's Metro, but
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  Speaker 6: quite possibly, I would say it drew him to.
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  Speaker 5: Hair was his cousin.
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  Speaker 6: I believe it's his cousin, Charles Eifergen, and he started
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  Speaker 6: kind of working with him and then decided that he
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  Speaker 6: kind of wanted to go to hair school, and then
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  Speaker 6: saved up all of his dollars and opened up his
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  Speaker 6: first salon.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's it's a really cool story, uh, to
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  Speaker 3: see the progress when you when you take your dad
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  Speaker 3: and your family's life as a whole and see kind
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  Speaker 3: of how it has gotten to this point that now
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  Speaker 3: he's on national television. Yeah, we're going to get back
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  Speaker 3: to kind of the story of all that and how
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  Speaker 3: you grew up. You're obviously living in Canada now yourself.
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  Speaker 2: What brought you there? That's not where he's living, right.
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  Speaker 5: No, my dad lives in Chicago.
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  Speaker 6: So when my parents separated, my mom continued to work
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  Speaker 6: at the salon for years. Like they're there. They still
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  Speaker 6: get along like great to this day. They have a
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  Speaker 6: great like hope parenting relationship. And then my mom wasn't
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  Speaker 6: working at the salon anymore, and so she's like, I think.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to go back. My mom's from Canada, so.
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  Speaker 6: Like, I think I'm to go back to Canada with
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  Speaker 6: my family and stuff like that. And so I moved
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  Speaker 6: to Canada when I was about eight, and then my
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  Speaker 6: dad flew me out to Chicago every Friday after school.
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  Speaker 6: Every Sunday, I'd get back on a plane to be
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  Speaker 6: back at school on Monday. And that happened for probably
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  Speaker 6: the first two years I lived here. I was a
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  Speaker 6: very frequent flyer. And then I started like getting friends
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  Speaker 6: and birthday parties, and I started getting into horses and
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  Speaker 6: having competitions, and I was like, I don't want to
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  Speaker 6: go every weekend anymore. And so it kind of started
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  Speaker 6: like getting slower and slower. And then I went to
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  Speaker 6: hair school in Chicago. I lived there for about a
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  Speaker 6: year again and then came back to Canada.
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  Speaker 4: So all right, so I'm very interested on how your
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  Speaker 4: parents met and what their relationship was like, because that's
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  Speaker 4: something we didn't get from him on that date.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so my parents, Okay, so my mom was actually
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  Speaker 6: a model and my dad was a hairstylist, and they
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  Speaker 6: actually just learned the story the other day. They they
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  Speaker 6: ended up at the same event and he sent one
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  Speaker 6: of his friends to go talk to my mom and
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  Speaker 6: she was like no, like whatever, and then somehow she
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  Speaker 6: ended up giving her his friend her number, and the
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  Speaker 6: two girls kind of started communicating, and then she passed
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  Speaker 6: along the message to my dad, and my dad was like,
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  Speaker 6: just come out with me, come out with me, and
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  Speaker 6: she's like, okay, fine, and then they started dating. They
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  Speaker 6: moved in together after two months, and they were together
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  Speaker 6: for about seven or eight years, I.
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  Speaker 3: Believe, so in this time period in their life. Do
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  Speaker 3: you know how your dad, as a married man, never
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  Speaker 3: did his own laundry.
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  Speaker 6: Uh, honestly, I'm not gonna lie. Like from birth, I
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  Speaker 6: don't recall him ever doing it. I don't recall him
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  Speaker 6: ever cooking. The only thing he's actually made, actually I
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  Speaker 6: have a video of it somewhere, was him actually cooking
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  Speaker 6: a pasta one night, and I was like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 6: you use your pots and pants. I thought they were
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  Speaker 6: just here for show. He's done that and actually makes
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  Speaker 6: a really good salad dressing. I have to say, those
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  Speaker 6: are the two things that I've actually seen him kind
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  Speaker 6: of put together. And this was I think just like
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  Speaker 6: last year or the year before that, I saw him
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  Speaker 6: actually use his pots and pans for the first time.
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  Speaker 6: It was like a documenting moment. But no ever since then,
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  Speaker 6: ever since I was little, we went up for breakfast, lunch,
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  Speaker 6: and dinner, usually a nice dinner every night. He has
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  Speaker 6: his dinners planned out. He's very organized, even when we
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  Speaker 6: go on trips, like he pre plans where we're eating dinner. No,
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  Speaker 6: like we always had a housekeeper, Like I remember having
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  Speaker 6: a nanny and a housekeeper. And he just he's just
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  Speaker 6: never done it. And I think that maybe like since
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  Speaker 6: he started, maybe like the machines of like the laundry
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  Speaker 6: machines have changed. He's like this is just too complicated
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  Speaker 6: now and he just doesn't do it anymore. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: I know, he's just he's just never done it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So the METSPA must be doing very well.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's he's pretty he's pretty successful for sure. It's
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  Speaker 6: definitely in a pretty high end area in the North
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  Speaker 6: Shorre of Chicago. Yeah, and a lot of his clients,
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  Speaker 6: I would say the people that come to the sun
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  Speaker 6: are pretty well off and yeah, it's very busy every
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  Speaker 6: time I go in there.
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  Speaker 4: So my dad also has never done his laundry since
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  Speaker 4: they've been married. I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 6: Really, Okay, so it's not that weird. Everyone's like freaking out.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 4: I no, I don't think that that's I personally growing
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  Speaker 4: up the way I did. My dad doesn't touch laundry.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I hear have laundry when I was nineteen, Like,
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  Speaker 6: for the first time, my girlfriend I my launder off
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  Speaker 6: at my mom's house and she's like, natally, you have
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  Speaker 6: to stop doing this, like this is embarrassing.
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  Speaker 4: I did the same thing my freshman year of college.
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  Speaker 4: I was like, okay, Mom, I guess you should teach me.
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  Speaker 4: And then I ended up just bringing it home every weekend.
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  Speaker 5: That's what I did.
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  Speaker 4: If only I had known it was so easy to do,
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  Speaker 4: I would have been fine.
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  Speaker 6: So easy, I know, but it's just I just was like,
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  Speaker 6: oh my god, I'm to ruin something. Or my dad
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  Speaker 6: always like kind of made it seem kind of scary.
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  Speaker 6: He's like, well, you know, your clothes are gonna drink
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  Speaker 6: and like like.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, Like, yeah, my mom has always been
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  Speaker 4: the one who's like he should dries jeans out of
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  Speaker 4: the dryer like ings them. So I thought that there
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  Speaker 4: was like some science to everything, and really I just.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's actually very simple.
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  Speaker 3: As interesting as this is, I do want to talk
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  Speaker 3: to you, Natalie uh And on the Almost Fumous podcast.
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  Speaker 3: You can always tell us what we're wrong, please, Like
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  Speaker 3: if I say something here and you're like, no, you're
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  Speaker 3: actually so far off for sure.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like I definitely do that. As it
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  Speaker 5: is with my dad.
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  Speaker 2: Good good, I'm comfortable with that. I am. I am married.
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  Speaker 2: So's there.
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  Speaker 3: Your dad is an interesting I think he's been compelling
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  Speaker 3: to me for multiple reasons. One, he is a personality.
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  Speaker 3: The other side of it is it feels like out
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  Speaker 3: of a lot of the guys, and he's not the
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  Speaker 3: only one, but it feels I mean, he's definitely one
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  Speaker 3: of a few that came in with just a lot
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  Speaker 3: of joy I mean, there wasn't this like, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to wait to tell you this story moment
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  Speaker 3: where it's like this has been a pivotal point in
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  Speaker 3: my life and I'm still trying to get over it
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  Speaker 3: kind of thing. It's like he didn't have that story. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And so it was always a I'm here for a
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  Speaker 3: different reason. So I wanted to say that and see
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  Speaker 3: if you agreed or disagreed. And then the question of
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  Speaker 3: that is, what reason did he even go on this
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  Speaker 3: show for outside of the obvious of potentially finding love
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  Speaker 3: one day?
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  Speaker 2: Like what, what do you think is real?
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  Speaker 3: Like, because Ashley and I've been on the show, one
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  Speaker 3: person gets picked, you know, it's not the only reason
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  Speaker 3: you go on the show, So what was it?
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  Speaker 5: Okay?
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  Speaker 6: So for your first question, I actually just talked to
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  Speaker 6: him about this yesterday and I was like, I feel like.
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  Speaker 5: You can kind of see it in the show.
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  Speaker 6: I think that she kind of gravitates towards him because
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  Speaker 6: her dates with him are like lighthearted, do you know
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  Speaker 6: what I mean? Whereas like some of those other dates
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  Speaker 6: are so heavy, and you know, at the age that
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  Speaker 6: all these men are at, you know, some of their wives,
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  Speaker 6: you know, have died, and some of them you know,
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  Speaker 6: like have been through a divorce or two and things
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  Speaker 6: like that. You know, like they've had all these things
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  Speaker 6: and maybe they're not over them. And you can see
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  Speaker 6: that a lot in the show. And I think that
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  Speaker 6: my dad kind of just brings that like lightness out
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  Speaker 6: kind of in her, and I think that it's really
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  Speaker 6: nice to see. Like I've talked to many of my
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  Speaker 6: friends and people who are watching the show and they're like,
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  Speaker 6: they just have fun. So yeah, I definitely have noticed
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  Speaker 6: that as well. And I was just talking to him
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  Speaker 6: about that yesterday as well, because I've been obviously watching it.
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  Speaker 6: And for the second question, so, I don't know if
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  Speaker 6: you guys know what. I signed him up for the
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  Speaker 6: show in januey you know, yeah, so I signed him
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  Speaker 6: up in January. It was actually really funny. We were
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  Speaker 6: in Mexico and I was asking all these questions because
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  Speaker 6: it's a long questionnaire, and I was.
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  Speaker 5: Like, so like who, like what would your ideal date be?
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  Speaker 5: And then I'm like typing on my phone.
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  Speaker 6: He's like what are you doing? Like what I was like,
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  Speaker 6: I'm signing up for a show. He's like, what show?
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  Speaker 5: And then I told him. He's like, you're joking me.
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, nope, we have forty more questions to go.
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  Speaker 5: Let's let's keep moving here.
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  Speaker 6: And so, uh, we were kind of I was showing
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  Speaker 6: him who the women are and kind of like an
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  Speaker 6: inclination of you know who I thought was potentially going
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  Speaker 6: to be the Golden Bacherette, and he actually picked her
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  Speaker 6: like out of everyone too. He's like, I'm just I'm
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  Speaker 6: really attracted her. We kind of like did a little
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  Speaker 6: deep dive on her and he's like, no, he's like that,
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  Speaker 6: like that's her. And so on his first night there
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  Speaker 6: when he said, I'm telling you, like I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 6: here if it wasn't you, it's that's one hundred percent true.
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  Speaker 6: He was actually really excited, like he's been really excited
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  Speaker 6: to you know, get to know her and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 6: So it's been It definitely was her from from the
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  Speaker 6: second he found out.
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  Speaker 5: He was excited.
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  Speaker 6: He went through a lot of the process not knowing
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  Speaker 6: and he was one hundred percent certain about going on
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  Speaker 6: the show when he actually found out that it was Joan.
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  Speaker 4: Gosh, so cute. Well, next week we're seeing hometowns. Were
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  Speaker 4: you there? I was there, Yeah, so give us a
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  Speaker 4: little review.
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  Speaker 6: I don't want to say too much, but I definitely
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  Speaker 6: think that she's lovely and as you guys probably saw
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  Speaker 6: in the previewly curR interaction with my son was absolutely adorable.
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  Speaker 5: My son really liked her, and.
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  Speaker 4: I knew that would have been his grandson because they
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  Speaker 4: didn't really specify, but I was like, that guy has
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  Speaker 4: like a look, he's got his hair done perfectly. That
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  Speaker 4: is not to be Pascal's. It's a grandson. Adorable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he's a good looking kid.
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  Speaker 5: He's a cutie for sure.
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  Speaker 6: I would say that the hometown I think went pretty
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  Speaker 6: well and I'm excited to see kind of episode.
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  Speaker 3: I guess, have you seen your dad date here in
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  Speaker 3: the last few years just in real life?
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  Speaker 6: I wouldn't say, like anything serious. I think that he's
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  Speaker 6: like casually kind of dated. I think that my dad,
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  Speaker 6: I know that he has like deep down, I know
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  Speaker 6: he doesn't really talk about on the show. I know
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  Speaker 6: he does have a little bit of of fear. I
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  Speaker 6: would say, I do think that it doesn't always like
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  Speaker 6: come out as fear, but I feel like there is
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  Speaker 6: a little bit of fear just from you know, his
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  Speaker 6: past relationships. I think that his relationships have been very
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  Speaker 6: like surface level. It's been like a couple of dates
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  Speaker 6: type thing, never really leading anywhere type relationships. Is kind
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  Speaker 6: of what I've seen or heard of. Yeah, it's been
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  Speaker 6: very casual. But I mean the past year and a half,
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  Speaker 6: I have heard him say like I want to find
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  Speaker 6: that person like I just I want to find that
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  Speaker 6: person that wants to adventure him at that point in
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  Speaker 6: my life where like I want a partner that we
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  Speaker 6: can just like go to Paris and go to Italy
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  Speaker 6: and go to Africa and go do all these things.
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  Speaker 6: And he wants to have that person that wants the
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  Speaker 6: same adventure as him.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, from the sounds of Retizan's life, Jones kind
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  Speaker 5: of making the.
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  Speaker 2: Cat Yeah she's down for that.
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  Speaker 3: It's uh so okay, So is it weird to see
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  Speaker 3: him on TV then taking off his shirt showing uh
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  Speaker 3: an actually insane amount of abs for a man his age.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, his abs are definitely circulating the internet at the moment.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Like is it weird for you, Like, what does
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  Speaker 3: it feel like as a child? Yeah, seeing that, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not having friends probably tell you, hey, like he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't work out?
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  Speaker 5: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely, I was definitely doing a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 6: I feel like he's a very funny guy and I
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  Speaker 6: wouldn't expect any less of him, but I definitely wasn't
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  Speaker 6: expecting to see so much of that.
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  Speaker 4: Speaking of Yeah, he's very.
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  Speaker 5: Confident in who he is and I mean, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Go dad, Well, we got hometowns coming up, and if
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  Speaker 4: your dad gets through oh hometowns, Yes, we have hometowns
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  Speaker 4: coming up, but if he gets through those, we have
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  Speaker 4: the fantasy suites. How how weird awkward is that conversation?
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  Speaker 4: Did you think this far ahead when you signed him up?
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  Speaker 6: Honestly, No, I know that my dad's such a big personality,
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  Speaker 6: and I knew that it was going to go one
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  Speaker 6: of two ways. I knew that she was either really
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  Speaker 6: gonna like like him or she wasn't gonna like him
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  Speaker 6: at all, and so I wasn't really thinking too far
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  Speaker 6: ahead with what that was going to look like.
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  Speaker 5: Now that we're almost potentially there.
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  Speaker 6: I'm definitely wondering how that's gonna go. Just even watching
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  Speaker 6: my dad like make out with her, I'm like, that's
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  Speaker 6: a lot, that's a lot. But no, I I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we're just gonna have to see him.
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  Speaker 2: It's so good.
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  Speaker 3: I can't you know what I hope for, just after
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  Speaker 3: meeting you and just the way you shine and the
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  Speaker 3: way you're handling this. I hope because this is how
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  Speaker 3: I am as a human. I hope we see them
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  Speaker 3: that morning scene where they're both like cook a coffee
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  Speaker 3: and I just want to. I'm going to watch it
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  Speaker 3: and think, Oh, Natalie's watching this too, and she hates this, and.
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  Speaker 4: I think, you know, all assuming that he makes it
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  Speaker 4: that far, Yeah, the assumption has to be there.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that now that we're kind
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  Speaker 6: of getting down to the wire, I think people are
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  Speaker 6: really starting to think about who that last person's going to,
• 17:16
  Speaker 6: because I mean, there's not many guys left, and after Hometowns,
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: it's really down to the final wire.
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: So we'll have to see how she goes.
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: One storyline that I was curious about that didn't that
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: hasn't got talked about, but I thought it was really
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: sweet and I do think it was a moment for Mark,
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: but it was also a moment for your dad. I know. Well, yeah,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: like your dad says, he was my best friend. You know,
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Mark's obviously gone from the show. No matter what happens
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: with your dad. Have they kept in contact? You know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: we have friendships that last from this show. We Asha
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and I both have that ourselves. Does it feel did
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it like what made them connect so much? And have
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: they talked?
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: My dad definitely has stayed in contact with some of
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: the guys, for sure. There was an article that Greg
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: wrote saying that they're all planned. They're going to plan
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: like this big trip, like all like the guys, and
• 18:19
  Speaker 6: they're all excited to hang out outside of the show.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: I think with Mark they had a lot of really
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: in depth conversations. And I think that my dad has
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: a really tough time being vulnerable, and he actually says
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: that in the show. And I think that Mark is
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: just such like a calming presence.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: To him that he.
• 18:41
  Speaker 6: Kind of opened up a lot to Mark, and Mark
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: definitely opened up a lot to him. And yeah, I
• 18:46
  Speaker 6: think he was He was very sad to see him.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: Go oh, I was so sad and yet so sweet.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I know, I'm going to say, I've never seen my
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: dad cry in thirty three years. I've never seen him cry.
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: So to see him cry on the show, I was like, what.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Over Mars elimination?
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, oh my god, that's so sweet.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: That's what makes this show so good is that there
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: is the relationships between men.
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: So, your dad had a conversation with Joan a couple
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: of weeks ago where she felt like he wasn't pursuing
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: her enough on a group date. How did you feel
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: about that?
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mean, I know my dad, and I
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: know he's not aggressive. He's just not like that. And
• 19:27
  Speaker 6: I know that, Like we kind of talked about it
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: before the show. I asked him kind of like what
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: he was thinking, Like, it's he's gonna like I mean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 6: he was the first person to grab her, which I
• 19:35
  Speaker 6: was like, wow, well the first night, but he's like,
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: I'm just He's like, I'm just not an aggressive personality
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: like that. He's like, I'm just not going to be
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the one kind of trying to take up all of
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: her attention. And so I think that that's kind of
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: where he was going with that. He's just like, I
• 19:51
  Speaker 6: am who I am, and we're going to get time
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: to talk, but I'm not gonna be like talking the
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: last episode, he's like, I'm just not gonna hover and
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna kind of let her have her time
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: and then when we get time to get time type thing.
• 20:04
  Speaker 6: And I know that's kind of been his approach the
• 20:06
  Speaker 6: whole time. I think now you saw him saying, well,
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: you didn't even let anyone else talk to her, And
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: now it's kind of getting real where he's like, okay,
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: like everyone, we need to all like be on the
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: same page here. Everyone needs time with her type thing,
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: like we're getting down to the wire and we need
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: those moments.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So it's a breath of fresh air, especially with the
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: background check some of these guys are getting. So yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty yeah, I'm pretty stoked to have a guy
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: be like, hey, you know what, there's an appropriate time
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: and not. And I've enjoyed seeing that evolution in him,
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: honestly with when it comes to saying no, you know what,
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: I'm actually feeling something for Joan now, I'd like to
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: stand up and like get time with her. Yeah, so
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: this is kind of where this closes for me, and
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: it take as much time as you need. Obviously, you
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: sign him up for the show. We know that now.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: So you believe in your dad and you love your
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: dad and you want to see him happy.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: Yes, But if.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Joan was sitting this, because she does listen to the
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: most famous podcast she does, and she'll definitely be listening
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: to this.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: One, I know that.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you were to sit down with Joan before
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: this whole thing start and say this is who my
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: dad is and this is why I want to see
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: him happy, what would you have said?
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: I probably would have said that my dad has honestly
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: one of the biggest hearts out there, and he genuinely
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: does like he is the most giving, caring person that
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: you will ever meet. He does sometimes have walls up,
• 21:34
  Speaker 6: and you know, I mean rightfully, so I know I'm
• 21:37
  Speaker 6: kind of the same way. It does take him a
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: little bit to kind of get there. And if she's
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: patient with him and really just you know, gives him
• 21:49
  Speaker 6: that time to like get to know her, that I
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: think that they could have like such an incredible relationship.
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: And just the fact that you know, she wants adventured
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: and she seems to want all the things that he wants.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: I think that, you know, they could actually have a
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: really amazing life together and to give him the chance
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: for sure.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: My last question for you is your dad has such
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: a rags to riches story. He talked about how you know,
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: his father said you can get a pair of new
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: shoes once you've earned the money to buy it. And
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: he moved to America. He obviously did very well for himself. Yeah,
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: is your grandpa still around and how did they feel
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: about No about.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Your grandpa did pass away. My Grandma's still alive. I
• 22:38
  Speaker 6: actually haven't asked him if he told her about any
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: of this. But my next question, like his grandma watching
• 22:46
  Speaker 6: this because like hopefully you'll have a heart of that. Yeah,
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: so she's still alive. Actually went and visited her and
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: some of my family in Paris a couple of years
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: ago as my sister. But no, my grandpa is not
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: alive anymore. I think that you know my dad's story still,
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: it kind of makes me tear up to this day
• 23:08
  Speaker 6: a little bit. I think that he definitely has come
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: a long way and he's definitely made something of him
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: and he hasn't he hasn't he hasn't come from like
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: he's come from nothing basically, and just kind of seeing
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: where he is today is like a huge inspiration to
• 23:32
  Speaker 6: me and hopefully to a lot of people.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Natalie closed us out here. Obviously, we've talked about your
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: dad a lot. We've talked about how great he is,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: how great he was to you, is to you, all
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: those things. A little bit about Joan, just to close
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: us out here, as you've watched Joan on this journey
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: through her kind of struggles moving on from the past,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: but also excitement towards the future, her curiosity towards your dad,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: do you still believe they could be a great match.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: You just said it earlier, but about Joan specifically, do
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: you think she would make a great match for your dad.
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: I do, and obviously after meeting her, I feel strongly
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: about that. I feel like she definitely has a young spirit,
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: and I think that that's kind of what my dad's
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: looking for.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: I think she presents herself well. She's a very classy lady,
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: which my dad said.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: I think she, you know, is family oriented, she has grandkids,
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: and I feel like she's looking for adventure and someone
• 24:40
  Speaker 6: who's just gonna not make her forget her husband necessarily,
• 24:45
  Speaker 6: but just like make her how do I word that,
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: I feel like, just make her kind of bring like
• 24:54
  Speaker 6: that happiness back out and make her feel.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Like it's possible to fall in love again.
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: And I do think that their relationships just not very
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: not very heavy, and it's lighthearted, and I think that's
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: maybe what's she's looking for as someone just to kind
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: of have fun with and enjoy the rest of her
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: life with. So I think that they are a good fit,
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: and I think Joan is a good fit for my dad.
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: So we'll have to see what happens.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Your dad is definitely somebody you can have a good
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: time with.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: That's obvious anytime, any place, with anyone's He's just a
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: good time guy, for sure.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Will tell him to come on theban and Ashley, I
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: almost heard the podcast before any other.
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: I will for sure.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, let's get that written down.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Natalie, You've been great. Thank you so much for coming
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: on and talking about your dad and giving us more
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: of a perspective about who he is. I learned a
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: lot just from you, and it like it uncovered a
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: little bit of the pieces that we don't get to
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: see from the show. Thanks for signing him up. Thanks
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: for sharing them with all of us. I hope he
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: has his shirt off multiple more times as the season
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: progress progresses. Enjoy the ride, and we cannot wait to
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: talk to you again. And hopefully it is maybe you
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: and your dad and Joan. That would be a really cool.
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: Podcast, Yes, yes, it would.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: And I can't wait to see the interaction between him
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: and your group and your son.
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, all of us together, it'll be It'll be
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: a good episode next week for sure.
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: So yeah, yeah, thank you guys so much. It was
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: nice to meet you guys.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, bye, that's been Natalie Pascal's daughter who signed him
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: up for the show an almost famous podcast. That was
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: a fun interview, I think Ashley, because we got such
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: a perspective on Pascal. I'm rooting for him right now
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: like he already was. But I really want to see
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: them together.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: You know, I kind of feel you, especially because I
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: think Chock was a little bit aggressed. I don't know
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: how I felt about Shock after this last episode. So
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: now I'm like Jim Pascal.
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's what this whole show's about, right, it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: now kind of figuring out that what we kind of
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: want for Joan and these relationships. But I think she
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: made a good point in this next chapel. Yeah, in
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: this next chapter of your life, you know what you've
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: gone through, the heavy, You've done so much stuff. All
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: you want is somebody willing to travel to see grandkids,
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: somebody wanted willing to travel to make memories. Somebody's gonna
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: have fun with you and take you out to dinner
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: and have a great dinner together. It sounds like he
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: could be that, and I now am full on team Pascal.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I know it makes a lot of sense.
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: Hey, so we'll be breaking down the next week's episode
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: after hometowns. Obviously, Natalie will be on that episode, So
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: until next time, I've Been Ben.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: I've Been Ansley.
• 27:40
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