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Tech Friday w/ Dave Hatter - Sponsored by Intrust IT - 8/28/2026 · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: 6.30 on a Friday. It is that time of week.
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  Speaker 1: Appointment listening with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter brought to you
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  Speaker 1: by his company, Interest IT, which the business career has
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  Speaker 1: already identified as the best in the business when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to computer needs. Your business needs the best. That
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  Speaker 1: will be Interest IT. You can find them online at interestit.com.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, Dave Hatter. It's so great having you on
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  Speaker 1: the show again.
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  Speaker 2: Always my pleasure, Brian. Happy to be here every Friday.
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  Speaker 1: More and more people paying attention to your off-stated words
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  Speaker 1: about Internet of Things devices and hacking and need to
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  Speaker 1: build in security measures. Got a growing concern over that. And,
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  Speaker 1: of course, it's only taken people several years to come
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  Speaker 1: around to that reality, Dave Hatter. You've been talking about
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  Speaker 1: it here on the 55KRC Morning Show, I think, for
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  Speaker 1: as long as you and I have been talking.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right, Brian. I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: And we will definitely be talking about that in the
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  Speaker 1: third segment when we get to protecting America's critical infrastructure.
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  Speaker 1: But let us start with a stolen wallet. Why is
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  Speaker 1: that a huge problem beyond just having your cash liberated
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  Speaker 1: from you, Dave?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's the obvious thing. And then the credit cards,
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  Speaker 2: debit cards are an obvious thing as well. You know,
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  Speaker 2: hopefully people have good PIN numbers associated with these things. But,
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  Speaker 2: you know, PIN number, Brian, typically is four digits. There's
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  Speaker 2: only so many permutations if you look at four digits, right?
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  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. You often will have other things
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  Speaker 2: in your wallet, maybe a driver's license that has sensitive information.
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  Speaker 2: People carry all kinds of things in their wallets. I
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  Speaker 2: know people who have written passwords down and put them
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  Speaker 2: in their wallets. And one of the pieces of advice
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  Speaker 2: I would give folks in general is to understand, and
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  Speaker 2: we've talked about it on here before, the whole idea
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  Speaker 2: of these scanners that can skim your credit cards right
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  Speaker 2: out of your pocket. Oh, yeah, yeah. You know, so
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  Speaker 2: it's not a bad idea. You know, it might add
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  Speaker 2: a little extra expense versus just your standard wallet or purse.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a bad idea for people to look into
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  Speaker 2: these RFID blocking bags and wallets, maybe even like a
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  Speaker 2: Faraday cage bag that you can put your phone in
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  Speaker 2: when you want it disconnected for whatever reason. But, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the bottom line is that personal information that's in your wallet,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a social security card, maybe anything else you're carrying
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  Speaker 2: in there, health insurance cards, right? Again, people carry a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff around, especially like if you look at
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  Speaker 2: my wife's purse, she has all kinds of stuff in there, right?
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  Speaker 2: That stuff gives identity thieves and criminals all kinds of
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  Speaker 2: information they need to, A, perpetrate identity theft in your
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  Speaker 2: name or B, and I think this is probably even
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  Speaker 2: more common now. A lot of times, you know, if
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  Speaker 2: I can get your cards, I might be able to
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  Speaker 2: get to your money. But if I have all this
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  Speaker 2: information about you, whether I steal it because your wallet
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  Speaker 2: is lost or stolen, or I get it because it's
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  Speaker 2: been leaked or breached on the dark web or whatever,
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  Speaker 2: that information makes it possible for me to pretend to
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  Speaker 2: be someone else and seem like I am legitimately that
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  Speaker 2: personal organization. Like, you know, if I have all this
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  Speaker 2: information about you, I can call and claim to be
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  Speaker 2: your health insurance company. I can claim to be your bank.
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  Speaker 2: I can claim to be almost anyone. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: if I start asking you questions and we interact, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to have information that's going to make it seem
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  Speaker 2: like I would only know that because I am who
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  Speaker 2: I am purporting to be. Does that make sense, what
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get at?
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  Speaker 1: It does. Yeah. It's like when they ask you sufficient
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  Speaker 1: information to establish who you are when your physician's office
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  Speaker 1: calls you. They have to get you to identify your
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  Speaker 1: birth date, maybe your home address, before they can talk
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  Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, if you have enough of that,
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  Speaker 1: it all just sounds legit. Who in the hell else
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  Speaker 1: would have that information?
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  Speaker 2: Right. How would someone know all of this information about
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  Speaker 2: me unless they're looking at their system because they are
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  Speaker 2: who they claim to be? But bottom line is, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you need to protect that information as we discuss all
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  Speaker 2: the time. And, you know, if you lose your wallet,
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  Speaker 2: you need to immediately start to notify your bank, get
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  Speaker 2: new credit cards, get new debit cards. You know, I
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  Speaker 2: suggest to people all the time that you just keep
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  Speaker 2: your credit frozen. Unless you're just applying for loans on
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  Speaker 2: a regular basis, there's no benefit in my mind to
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  Speaker 2: keeping your credit unlocked. I have mine locked slash frozen
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  Speaker 2: all the time.
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  Speaker 1: TransUnion, Experian, the major credit companies, right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes. You can go in there.
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  Speaker 1: Mine are locked too. I followed your advice several years
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  Speaker 1: ago on that one. I haven't had to open an
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  Speaker 1: account or get more credit in years and years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so, you know, and you can always, on a
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  Speaker 2: temporary basis, unlock it if you need to apply for
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  Speaker 2: some sort of credit and then lock it back. You know,
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  Speaker 2: it just makes it harder for someone to steal your
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  Speaker 2: identity if you do that sort of thing, right? You know,
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  Speaker 2: you can use credit monitoring services. Now, people will argue
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  Speaker 2: with me all the time. Well, what am I paying for?
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  Speaker 2: What am I getting? I can do that myself. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you can probably do much of it yourself, but can
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  Speaker 2: you do it with the discipline and with the scale?
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  Speaker 2: They can do it. Now, I'm not here to sell
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  Speaker 2: that to you today. I'm just saying, if you look
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  Speaker 2: into how these things work, right, you know, are you
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  Speaker 2: going to go check all three credit bureaus regularly? Are
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  Speaker 2: you going to check all your accounts? Are you going
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  Speaker 2: to notice some minor fraudulent transaction that came from, let's say,
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  Speaker 2: Paraguay or something? Because a lot of times, if your
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  Speaker 2: credit card is stolen, they'll try to run a small
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  Speaker 2: transaction first to see if you're paying attention. Right. Right.
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  Speaker 2: And if that doesn't get caught, then they'll move on
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  Speaker 2: to some sort of larger scale fraud.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's one of the technological advances that I appreciate,
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  Speaker 1: because anytime my credit cards are used, I get a
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  Speaker 1: notice that you've, you know, a transaction of X amount
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  Speaker 1: just reported on your credit card. So you immediately know
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  Speaker 1: if someone's been someone's used your credit card. Fortunately for me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like, no, I literally just ordered something
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  Speaker 1: on Amazon. I got an alert that my credit card
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  Speaker 1: had been used. And so I'm like, OK, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: So that's I like that feature.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of the reasons why, in general, I
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  Speaker 2: encourage people, whatever alerts you can get from your credit cards,
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  Speaker 2: your bank, et cetera, you should turn that stuff on.
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  Speaker 2: And I know it creates a lot of noise, but
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  Speaker 2: you need to pay attention to those sort of things
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  Speaker 2: so that if and when you do have an unfortunate
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  Speaker 2: situation like this where your wallet or purse is lost
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  Speaker 2: or stolen, it's going to make it easy for you
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  Speaker 2: to get in front of that. You're going to want
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  Speaker 2: to report this stuff as soon as possible. Getting a
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  Speaker 2: new driver's license is not fun. I've had to do
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  Speaker 2: it before. But the good news is, if you think,
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  Speaker 2: and the less sensitive information you're carrying around on your person,
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  Speaker 2: the better. Like most people do not need to have
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  Speaker 2: their social security card on them on a regular basis.
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  Speaker 2: I get if you've started a new job or something
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  Speaker 2: like that, you might need to have it. But ultimately,
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  Speaker 2: you don't need, don't carry around any more than you
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  Speaker 2: absolutely need so that in the event you lose your wallet,
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  Speaker 2: your purse gets stolen, you have less things to try
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  Speaker 2: to fix. And should this happen, you need to act quickly. Amen.
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  Speaker 1: Sound advice.
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  Speaker 2: The longer you wait, the more exposure you have.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it gets worse. You might have your wallet stolen and,
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  Speaker 1: of course, all the risks that go along with that,
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  Speaker 1: as Dave pointed out. But what if someone hacks into
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  Speaker 1: your email? That is frightening. He's going to explain that
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  Speaker 1: one coming up next at 637-55KRC Detox Station. Have your...
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  Speaker 1: 641-55KRC Detox Station. It's Tech Friday. Dave Hatter from interestit.com. Also, LinkedIn.com.
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  Speaker 1: You're looking for Dave Hatter's articles and the ones he
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  Speaker 1: refers to when he's talking with me this morning and
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  Speaker 1: the things he talks about throughout the week. LinkedIn. Just
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  Speaker 1: search Dave Hatter and you will find him. Dave Hatter
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  Speaker 1: pivoting over to someone breaking into an email. This sounds
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  Speaker 1: like a major problem. Is he not there? Dave? Dave?
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  Speaker 2: Dave? Yeah, I'm here. Sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Finally. Yeah. Don't do that. Stop putting your phone on mute.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I put it on mute for a second. Don't
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  Speaker 2: do that. Sorry about that. So a word for the wise. Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Pay attention to your mute button and then don't let
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  Speaker 2: the window go behind another window where you can't find
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  Speaker 2: it again. Oh, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: That's happened on the fly here in the morning show, too.
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  Speaker 1: That throws me into panic mode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very irritating. But I did it to myself.
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  Speaker 1: Even Tech Friday's Dave Hatter struggles with technology.
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  Speaker 2: Yes. So the email thing. I argue with people about
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  Speaker 2: this all the time, Brian, because people will tell me, well,
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  Speaker 2: I have nothing to hide. I don't care if you
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  Speaker 2: get my email or read my email. So what? Well,
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  Speaker 2: my answer to that is that may very well be
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  Speaker 2: the case. However... Your email account now has become a
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  Speaker 2: major identifier. Now, some people might have more than one,
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  Speaker 2: but many people have one email account they use all
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  Speaker 2: the time. It's connected to all their other accounts. It's
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  Speaker 2: the identifier they use to log into their bank, their
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  Speaker 2: health insurance, et cetera, right? Yeah. So what happens, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: when you forget your password on an account? How does
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  Speaker 2: that typically work? Well, you go hit the forgot password.
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  Speaker 2: And it sends a link to the email account that
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  Speaker 2: is on file, right? You see where I'm going here?
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  Speaker 2: I do. So you get that link, you click the link,
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  Speaker 2: it resets your password, and now you're back into your account. Now,
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  Speaker 2: ideally you have multi-factor authentication turned on too, but the
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  Speaker 2: bottom line is those password resets go to your email account.
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  Speaker 2: If I'm a bad guy and I can take over
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  Speaker 2: your account, we call that an account takeover in the business, right?
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  Speaker 2: We take over your account. I can immediately change your password,
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  Speaker 2: lock you out of your own account and And then
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  Speaker 2: start working through all of your emails to figure out
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  Speaker 2: every other account you have, your bank, your health insurance,
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  Speaker 2: your retirement account, you name it. It's probably somewhere in
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  Speaker 2: your email, which I have now locked you out of.
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  Speaker 2: You ever tried to call Microsoft or Google when you
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  Speaker 2: get locked out of an account and see if they're
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  Speaker 2: going to help you?
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  Speaker 1: No, no one even thinks about trying to do that
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  Speaker 1: because they know it's an exercise in futility, Dave Hatter.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And that article that was the basis
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  Speaker 2: of this conversation this morning points out that ultimately, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this happens to people and you can literally watch your
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  Speaker 2: account start getting drained because I lock you out of
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  Speaker 2: your email. Then I start going through your accounts, resetting
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  Speaker 2: your padlock. they're coming to your email account which I
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  Speaker 2: now control I reset your password for your bank account
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  Speaker 2: you're locked out I can steal all your money I
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  Speaker 2: reset your password for your retirement account I You're locked out.
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  Speaker 2: I can steal all your money. I cannot stress enough,
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  Speaker 2: as we have become now very dependent on email and
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  Speaker 2: it's centric to everything most people do. If someone can
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  Speaker 2: take over your email account, they can potentially wreck your
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  Speaker 2: entire life in a very short period of time. Because
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  Speaker 2: once you're locked out, they can go to town. And again,
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  Speaker 2: it will be difficult to get control of your account again,
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  Speaker 2: which is why it's absolutely critical. to have strong, unique
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  Speaker 2: passwords for all your accounts, but especially for any critical account,
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  Speaker 2: like a bank account or your email account, since it's
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  Speaker 2: central to all of these other accounts. Get a password manager, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Get a password manager like 1Password. It's going to let
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  Speaker 2: you create ridiculously complex passwords that will be very, very
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  Speaker 2: difficult to hack for all of your accounts. Then you
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  Speaker 2: only need to know one really, really strong password that
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  Speaker 2: unlocks your password manager. Sound advice. We talk about We
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  Speaker 2: talk about multi-factor authentication all the time. You know, you
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  Speaker 2: need to turn on multi-factor authentication or two-factor authentication on
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  Speaker 2: all your accounts. It's not foolproof, but it substantially raises
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  Speaker 2: the bar. Even better, stop using the text-based version. Use
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  Speaker 2: an authenticator app. You install it on your device. You
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  Speaker 2: connect your authenticator codes to that app. Now, if you
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  Speaker 2: want to get into my accounts, you literally have to
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  Speaker 2: have my phone, unlock my phone, Open the authenticator app
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  Speaker 2: to get the code. It's not just coming to a
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  Speaker 2: text message that could potentially be intercepted or SIM swapped.
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  Speaker 2: And then the last thing they suggest in here, which
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  Speaker 2: I totally agree with, do not connect third-party apps to
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  Speaker 2: your mailbox. Do not use your email account or let things,
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  Speaker 2: don't log in with like a Google login or a
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  Speaker 2: Microsoft login, unless that's the platform you're using. If you're
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  Speaker 2: using Gmail, fine. If you're using Microsoft 365, fine. But
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  Speaker 2: if you're on some of the third-party platform, like I
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  Speaker 2: use ProtonMail for my personal stuff, I have a very
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  Speaker 2: strong password. I have multi-factor authentication turned on through an
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  Speaker 2: authenticator app. It's not connected to anything else. There's nothing
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  Speaker 2: else accessing that email. I'm not using any other accounts
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  Speaker 2: to log into it because It is central to all
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  Speaker 2: of my personal stuff, and I understand this risk, so
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  Speaker 2: I am protecting it. You might even want to consider
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  Speaker 2: for people, you know, have more than one email account,
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  Speaker 2: one that's kind of used for just general spam purposes,
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  Speaker 2: and then one that is specifically used to connect to
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  Speaker 2: critical accounts so that it's not out there everywhere and
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  Speaker 2: it would be more difficult for a hacker to get.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. Sound advice. Dave Hatter, apparently the word has
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  Speaker 1: gotten out. We need to protect America's critical infrastructure. One
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  Speaker 1: more with Tech Friday's Dave Hatter, intrustit.com. 647 right now,
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  Speaker 1: 55KRC talk station. Another quick word here from my friend.
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  Speaker 1: It's 650, 55KRC talk station. One more segment. With Tech
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  Speaker 1: Friday's Dave Hatter, intrustit.com sponsors this important segment here in
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  Speaker 1: the 55KRC morning show, and that's where you'll find Dave
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  Speaker 1: and his team to help your business with their computer needs.
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  Speaker 1: And they finally listened to you, Dave Hatter. Protecting America's
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  Speaker 1: critical infrastructure is finally making the headlines. People have gotten
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  Speaker 1: the memo. Dave, what does this mean?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brian. Well, I hope it's a step in the
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  Speaker 2: right direction. You probably saw this week President Trump signed
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  Speaker 2: an executive order declaring a national emergency to secure America's
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  Speaker 2: bulk power system. Yep. And this is one of the
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  Speaker 2: most critical things that I've been worried about. And there
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  Speaker 2: are multiple, multiple critical infrastructure sectors per the FBI. You know,
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  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, telecom and electricity, probably
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  Speaker 2: almost equivalent to one another. You know, you need electricity
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  Speaker 2: to drive everything, but everything is now interconnected. So the
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  Speaker 2: telecom sector, think the internet, right? They say telecom, at
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  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's really now all internet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there's still some plain old telephone system lines out there
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  Speaker 2: and so forth, but this is the internet. And that's
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  Speaker 2: part of what makes this so difficult to protect is
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  Speaker 2: that now everything is digital, everything is interconnected. So even
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  Speaker 2: if the power is up, if you knock out the
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  Speaker 2: telecom system, the internet, this stuff is eventually going to
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  Speaker 2: go down. But I was very happy to see this
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  Speaker 2: executive order. There's been a lot of people talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Is it enough? I'm not sure. But at least we
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  Speaker 2: are now seemingly paying attention to this at all levels
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  Speaker 2: of the government. People on the street are starting to
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  Speaker 2: get the message. We've talked before, Brian, in the last
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks, in 12 states, more than 100 water
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  Speaker 2: plants were hacked. One was shut down temporarily. We've had
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  Speaker 2: ports hacked. We've had 911 systems knocked offline. We've had
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of critical infrastructure hacking. We've had the FBI
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  Speaker 2: warning about this for literally four years, particularly the telecom
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  Speaker 2: system in There's a great op-ed in Security Magazine. Probably
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  Speaker 2: the average person isn't going to get a ton out
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  Speaker 2: of this, but this is a guy who worked in
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  Speaker 2: the telecom sector for a long time for Cox Communications.
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  Speaker 2: And he says, telecommunications represents one of the most interconnected
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  Speaker 2: critical infrastructure sectors because every other sector depends on reliable
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  Speaker 2: communications to operate. Disruption to communications can immediately affect emergency services, hospitals,
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  Speaker 2: financial institutions, transportation systems, utilities, and government operations. And he's
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  Speaker 2: exactly right. It's all interconnected now. And if you can
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  Speaker 2: take out the telecom slash internet, you're taking out everything
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  Speaker 2: else eventually if it doesn't come back online soon. If
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  Speaker 2: you knock out the power grid, you're taking out everything. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: once the diesel power generators run out. And I want
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  Speaker 2: to reiterate, Brian, it's not just, I try to say this,
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  Speaker 2: it's not just cyber attacks. Software fails, equipment fails, right?
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  Speaker 2: You may recall, it hasn't been that long since we
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  Speaker 2: talked about internet outages and so forth. You know, this
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  Speaker 2: went down, that went down for a day or two
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  Speaker 2: and the potential impact had that not been fixed. And
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  Speaker 2: it didn't appear to be cyber attacks. It appeared to
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  Speaker 2: be like a key router went out or something. So
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  Speaker 2: it's not just cyber, it's natural disasters. It's solar flares.
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  Speaker 2: It's potentially EMP attack. There's a situation out in California
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  Speaker 2: where guys went around, I believe it was 2013, with
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  Speaker 2: high-powered rifles and shot out a bunch of these critical
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  Speaker 2: transformers that take years to build and generally are not
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  Speaker 2: in inventory. So I'm very happy to see the executive
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  Speaker 2: order from the president. I think it's a key step
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  Speaker 2: in the right direction. Again, is it perfect? Will it
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  Speaker 2: solve all the problems? Probably not. But From the local
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: level to the state level to the federal level, we
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  Speaker 2: have got to get serious about protecting this stuff because
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: it's not just, oh, darn, I can't get my email today.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: It might be, oh, darn, the power grid. Look at
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: the situation for the poor folks in Indiana that have
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: had power out for, in some cases, more than a week,
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: maybe two weeks. Think how difficult it is. Apparently, there
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: was a fairly good-sized power outage in Utah last night.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's been fixed. I don't know
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: what the rationale for it is. But if you go
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: from my power's out for a couple of days to
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: my power is out for a month, my power is
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: out for six months because the grid is down, we've
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: got a huge, huge problem.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: Well, you can't even bank then.
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: Can't bank, can't work. Yeah.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, the ripple effect is just amazing. I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: just the things you will not have access to. You know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the power goes out, people who are on respirators and,
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: you know, life-saving equipment done, alarms, you know, like security
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: alarms in your home if you got one, you know,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. No, the police will not be
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: called if someone kicks your door and that's not going
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: to work. I mean, just over every single thing.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Our society is incredibly dependent on electricity and then technology. Well,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: it's the electricity that makes the technology work. It's the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: electricity that pumps the water out of your faucet. It's
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: the electricity that keeps your insulin cold. Yeah, it's all
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: super interconnected and we have all these wonderful modern conveniences.
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: If the grid is taken out for whatever reason for
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: any extended period of time, I don't think people can
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: really imagine the problems. I encourage folks, go check out
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: the book One Second After. It's a novel. It's fiction.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Movie's coming out soon. It's all about an EMP attack
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: that knocks out the power grid. And, you know, again,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: these transformers take sometimes 18 to 36 months to build.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: They're not just sitting around waiting. Not to mention, imagine
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: the chaos if the power was out across the country
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: for three or four months. So who's going to be
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: putting the transformers back in? It's really pretty scary.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Anarchy, Dave. That's anarchy.
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: It's way past time that we get serious about this. Again,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: I'll put the link to that book, Foundation for Infrastructure Resilience.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: I keep bringing them up. They're exclusively focused on this
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: sort of thing.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Well, in this call to action from OpenAI, one possible
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: good use of artificial intelligence, in spite of the nefarious
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: realities of it, artificial intelligence can be used to figure
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: out how to hack into critical infrastructure. And maybe from
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: learning by what AI does, we can plug the hole. So,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: you know, there's some good out there. Dave Hatter, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: appreciate the emphasis you place on that particular topic and
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: keep it up all the time. We'll do this again
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: next Friday. And as always, thank you for doing what
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: you do for the greater Cincinnati area businesses, intrustit.com.