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Let me do the table shake. You ready?
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There are other harlems, yeah. Do the Harlem Shake.
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Mama Mount Bound Bang your management Fantasy hockey
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podcast. Woo.
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Wow. William Dude.
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Through the Yeah, that's what it was, right?
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Yeah, You know, that also reminded me of remember, like
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the mannequin challenge, like 16.
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That was cool. Yeah, do you remember the
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Titans? God, I can't.
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Nah Nah Nah. Nah.
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Nah. Nah, Nah, Nah.
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Nah, just levels. Yeah.
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Like what was better than Mannequin Challenge or Harlem
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Shake? Yeah, Harlem Shake.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
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I don't know. Who's worse though?
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What are you gonna say? No, no, don't give it away.
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Plastic bag through the wind. Started.
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Again. Or Spencer night.
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I'll tell you which one I'd rather have.
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Nuts. What jersey does plastic bag you
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have? The Chicago jersey, that's like
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in the interview when he was like, Jimmy, you're a firework.
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OK, a plastic bag in a Winnipeg Jets jersey or Spencer night.
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Plastic bag. Yeah, alright, cool.
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They're. Really nice jersey.
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Yeah, they got a nice jersey. Winnipeg. 36 Chicago.
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So they they do, I don't. Know it's basic.
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Yeah, yeah. Something about like the blue,
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blue oblong Rouge derivatives. You know, that's kind of cool.
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Like, OK, everybody, yeah. For hockey, yeah, to well, this
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is hockey ish. Yeah.
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Welcome in everybody to Bangor Management, the Fantasy Hockey
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Podcast with your host Jake, Josh and Kevork.
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Ian Sad Kevork. Josh Nam, Switzerland Pretty.
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Neutral, right? Now, I don't know.
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I mean, I've gotten over my sadness for not being in the
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playoffs anymore in our league of record, but Kevin and I are
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destroying one of our other leagues so.
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That's kind of cool. It's pretty rad.
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Josh and I are both in opposite semifinals in our league of
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record and it's pretty tight for both of us right now, but we're
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basically depressed. Our goalies suck.
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Honestly for the no problem our goalies suck plastic bags.
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It doesn't help if you do it sleep it like I was sucking
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black. What on what if I say?
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Those are basically paper straws.
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What if I say a bunch of words and then I say Spencer night and
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you just bleep out all the words?
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So it seems like I'm swearing really hard about him.
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Just bleep out everything I just said other than Spencer night.
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There's a bunch of followers, but maybe worth it for the vine.
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Yeah, exactly. All right.
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Welcome us in. Yes, today is our mail bag
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episode as of the week of March 25th.
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Please rate us we need because we're sad.
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Yeah, thank you. I really, you know, side note, I
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hope you both make it to the finals because you guys are
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gonna hate each other. Next week we already hate each
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other. Honestly, just be so happy to
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make it to the. Finals same.
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You do this God every, every year.
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You guys are so traumatized. I just want to make the final
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asking for a lot. He's won three back-to-back to
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back. Yeah, yeah.
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You know it's better than three. Is 4/24.
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Alright, should I dive into some questions?
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Do it all right, one of our super fans, JVD 03/08 asked
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which goalie would you pick up in the next two weeks as in the
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rest of week 23 and week 24? This cats are wins, saves, save
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percentage and shutouts. And he he currently has
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Blackwood and Gustafson. So here are the list of guys
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he's got length talking Lankinen, UPL, Jerry De Smith
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and Talbot. OK, so ruling out Lankinen,
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yeah. Yeah, ruling out sick and then
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goes back so. Rule Talbot.
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Yeah, Talbot injured. To me, I think between UPL and
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WHO. Was the last three are UL, Jerry
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and Smith. I don't think Smith getting
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enough starts. Yeah, the Smith will get back to
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backs. And they'll be.
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Thinking people just because you know the same percentage might
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not be there, but is it get you the most saves I think.
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I mean, I would not trust Jerry with my season.
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Yes to Smith is like if you need a spot start, you could pick him
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up for that one start. You're gonna hold on to him for
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two weeks. So UPL is the only answer out of
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these. My real question, I guess I was
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about to say my real question is why would you get a third goalie
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when you're Blackwood and Gus, especially going into next week
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where both those teams have four games.
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Black's gonna get you three starts, gonna get you three
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starts. That's six starts among two
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goalies. I don't, I'm pretty happy with
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that and just taking extra player.
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So you let JVD ask this question, You called them a
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super fan just to tell him that his question was stupid?
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Never say that I you your words, you know.
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So yeah, I think it could just be there.
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There's a couple of things here 1.
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Maybe the opponent has really good goalies.
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Well, yeah, that and. But picking a goal, he's not
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gonna make it worse. Stories not gonna.
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Make more minimum starts that we think about.
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More than six. He's gonna get 6 starts next
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week with those two more. Than he might.
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He might need the saves in the wins.
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Yeah, that's what I mean. Like like Kevin and I are in the
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other league where we have 3 goalies starting.
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Yeah, every. Day like it's like it's not 2
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starters like I see what you're saying.
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Maybe. Maybe it's a points?
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League JVD. It is not a stupid, they're just
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very worked up, especially Josh who thought it was.
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Covered with the words in my mouth, Kevin tried to make me
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lose my one fan on Reddit. No, no, it's a great question,
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as are all of our fans questions, so we truly
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appreciate it. But yeah, I think you're kind of
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how your hands are tied, honestly, because IPL, just like
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Jerry, is such a wild card. I really don't like any of these
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guys, to be honest. At least you have the two solid
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goalies. There is a world and even which
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let's say there is 3 starting spots.
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I would just maybe just ride the two because you should get the
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minimum starts as you mentioned Josh from 2:00.
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Guys, look at it. He didn't mention his cats,
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right? So it's win safe, safe
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percentage and shutouts. Shutouts.
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Let's ignore it because you can't stream.
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That so this is we have goals against average is one of them,
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right. So he only has one quality based
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thing. It's a very quantity oriented
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league it seems that's fair. So that's why he kind of is
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gonna aim. For and you know, if you have
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three games of Blackwood and three games of Gus, like when
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you have a decent amount of games, one outlier doesn't make
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that much of a difference. It kind of gets like blended in
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with the rest. So yeah, you know, taking all
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that into account, I guess he's asking just who's gonna get the
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most starts with the most best chance of being decent.
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And I think PPL of those. Five yeah, that's it.
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But like right. I mean, though, he he's.
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If I had to rank them though, PL. and then I mean Alex Line is
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probably on. If you ask for Talbot, he's
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probably. OK, Detroit.
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Yeah. So like replace Taboo with.
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Lion Yeah, not a bad idea. You would put Lion over Jerry.
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Put line over upo probably. Really.
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No, you don't think so. Male lion.
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I go, I go. UL Jerry Lyon to Smith,
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LinkedIn. Jerry over over Lion.
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Yeah, I know he just had that really terrible game, but like.
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I didn't go line just because you know that nobody else like
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that can start there, right Where Jerry, they complained.
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No that's a good point, especially with the fact that of
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their three games next week 1 of back-to-back you could only get
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one start and only getting one start.
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You gotta pick a guy who's actually get a quality one like
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the Smith. So exactly.
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Fully agree. And even though mine was on your
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list, but we're assuming that he's available only in Ross and
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4% of leaks, I think, yeah. All right, next, Gorgonzola 69
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at Is it OK for someone to purposely lose a week to get a
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more favorable playoff matchup, or is that dirty?
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Hmm. Honestly, I'm, I'm kind of,
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yeah, yeah, it's, it's tough. I'm kind of of the belief that
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like you, you gotta do what's best for you in this case.
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So I mean, I realize that there could be hella ramifications and
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not everybody's going to be happy, but if there's a
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established understanding in the league that you are able to do
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these type of things going into the season, then I prefer that.
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I think the question, the question is probably isn't
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understanding going into the league, right.
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That's just going to put their their their weak.
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Yeah, I think I think the biggest thing you have the first
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thing you have to think about is who else does this impact
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besides your current matchup in your current seating, right?
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Like are you punting against the worst team in the league where
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they're at Mia and they haven't checked their line up and it's
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not gonna affect anybody else besides you just like falling
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into a better seat that you want?
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Or are you like knocking somebody out of the playoffs
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because you're giving somebody a free win?
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You know what I mean? That I would think that that's
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not OK. Like you have to like, at that
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point, you're compromising the integrity of the like,
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somebody's missing out on a playoff spot not because like,
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their team didn't deserve it, but because somebody else got a
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free like, you know, huge. Win.
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So is it OK to do it then then if it doesn't affect anybody?
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Yeah. I think at that point, you're
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not really hurting anybody else. And it could just be, it could
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happen naturally as well, right. So it's not in the realm of
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possibility. I think I agree with what you're
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saying. I think as long as you're not
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negatively affecting anyone else by punting, then other than like
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someone passing you and then they get a match up against
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someone that you think is more difficult, I think that's
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totally fair. But yeah, if you're giving
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someone a playoff spot over someone else because you're
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punting, I think that's kind of like not in the spirit of the
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game. And if I was a commissioner and
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I saw a team doing that, like there ramifications.
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Yeah, I don't think that's OK, but like I actually, it's funny.
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That's a question because I literally just did that this
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year, right? I was, it was the last week I
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was in the 3rd and I really don't wanna play against Jakey,
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who was in 6th. And so I wanted to purposely
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punch that I could drop to 4th and play the 5th place guy and
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but I think I was playing against the worst team in the
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league like. He did the line up in like a
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month. And them winning had no
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ramifications on anyone else in the league.
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Yeah. So I punted it.
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I did it and it worked out and I don't feel bad about it all.
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It didn't affect anyone else poorly.
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Yeah, but but if I was playing against the guy that Jake was
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fighting for a playoff spot, you know, I don't think it would be
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fair for me to punt it. And then that guy passes Jake
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and he does the playoffs just because I wanted a different
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seating, you know, that that I don't think is fair.
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I guess the general rule of thumb is that this shouldn't be
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able to be a thing, but like in your case it didn't matter and
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you obviously did the due diligence beforehand, you know
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what I mean? Like there should be a rule
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potentially that's just like, you know, you have to start your
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lineup. Like we have the football.
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Yeah, we have that for football because football it can be like
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very, you know, obviously it's, I feel like, yeah, the weeks are
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just less weeks and there's more volatility.
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Whereas, you know, those games one like once a day, right?
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Whereas for hockey it's like, sorry, I said once a day, but
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once a week, yeah. Whereas for hockey every day,
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right. So it's harder to punt in
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hockey. But for sure, I mean, for me,
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like it also was the last week of the season, right?
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So there was no on there's, it's not like if it happens earlier
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in the season also, I don't know why you would ever do that
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earlier in the season. It's more of a like last week
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thing. Yeah.
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But like, you know, earlier on, anything could happen last week.
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I knew for a fact that this guy getting points is not gonna
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affect anyone. So I don't mind punting.
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But yeah, so I think it's really, you don't want anyone to
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get punished for you punting essentially.
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Exactly. But if it doesn't really affect
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anyone, it just affects where you end up in the matchups, then
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I think that's totally fair. All right, next Ben Chiarot is a
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hottie? Asks.
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Is that your wife? Do rookies get better at face
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offs as their career progresses? Can rookie sees that have a bad
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faceoff win percentage improve? Or is their first year
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percentage usually a good sign of how they'll always be?
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They absolutely can improve. Hmm.
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So yeah. For me, the first example that
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comes to mind is McKinnon. Right, so it's OK.
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I was about to say that that was a rollercoaster though.
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McKinnon was sick at faceoffs for like 2 years and pretty
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garbage at points. Like you had a good rookie year,
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then it's like next two years were nothing and then he decided
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to be horrible at faceoffs and that directly correlated to him
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being sick for points. OK, so pretty much you can't be
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good at both. Now he's excellent at both, you
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know what I mean? So it's funny cause it's a known
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thing that that rookies are not usually that good at faceoffs,
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but it's yeah. I mean, you have to go through
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the logic of it. Why are rookies not good at
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faceoffs? They're younger, they're
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smaller, they're not as strong and not as.
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Experienced exactly. They haven't had time with like
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an NHL level coach who like, you know, some teams will hire a guy
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just to teach face off. Like Manny Malhotra was the God
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of face off, you know, and he would get hired by teams just
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just, yeah, just to like teach their guys like how to do face
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offs the best way. So I think it's actually not
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only like, not only can they get better, I think it's a known
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fact that they will get better, right?
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I would never judge someone based on how they were as a
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rookie at faceoffs. Yeah, for sure.
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That that's like the category that you just truly can all
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predict like like going into their sophomore year.
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If they're not, I just think that whatever they do on their
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rookie year will be like the foundation and the starting
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point for them getting better. Like I can't imagine somebody,
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you know, let's say, getting like having a 45% average in
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their rookie year and then getting worse as their career
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progresses. Just think it's going to go up.
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Cannon wasn't Anomaly because he was really good.
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Really, really good. And then we came back and now
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he's. Amazing.
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But it also depends like where you are in the line up, right?
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Like if you're if you're a stud rookie, you get drafted to a
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team that's awful, you're gonna play since the top line on the
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other team, the team probably has their best face on the top
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line. So you're already at a
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disadvantage playing. You suffer competition.
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Yeah, you're a rookie. But like, I think is a good
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example, right, yes, he doesn't really take many face offs right
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now or when he does, he's not like the best at it.
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I can see him getting significantly better as the
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season as is. You're like career progresses
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for sure. For sure.
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Yeah, I think it's it's one of those things that it's, it's
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usually, it's usually like things are looking up like it
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gets better it generally. So yeah, that's what that's what
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I would answer to. Ben Sharat is a hottie.
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And good call on that, yeah. Alright, next number 1.
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Bang? Ginger asks.
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The Whoa. Would it be worth it to drop a
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more established top player on a good team for a less good player
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on a team fighting for a playoff?
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Spot. Yeah.
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That's pretty much like what I would say, yeah.
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I mean bang ganger. No, it's at the end of the day,
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I, I think that, you know, when it comes to the end of the
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season, if you see that there are players who are just on such
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good teams that they're going to be rested, you could, you could
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just feel free to draw them, you know what I mean?
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Even if like, let's say going into week 25, there's six games
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and you know beforehand that chiefly is getting like three
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games, you know what I mean? Three and three.
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You're better off picking up someone on the.
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Depends what kind of you were talking about too, right?
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You just want more games. I think the volume matters.
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More for sure, but the question was, is it more valuable to pick
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up guys that are on a fringe playoff kind of cusp where
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they're really trying to make the playoffs?
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Yeah, like my, in my mind, I'm thinking of like on waivers in
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most leagues right now, like Coronado.
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Like who are you dropping to pick up Coronado?
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Yeah, you don't want to drop your your All Stars.
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But would you pick up? Would you drop like Josh, let me
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ask you, are you dropping John Tavares for Coronado next week?
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No2 games versus four games. No, as far as it's been too hot.
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So yeah, the two types of Terra over to four games of Coronado,
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who's on the playoff bubble. So that answers the question
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then, because that's, you know, two game week.
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That's a huge two games discrepancy.
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And you're talking about like a, you know, pretty big stud.
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Yeah, compared to Wave Wireless like really hot right now.
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Yeah, so I guess you're saying that the logic kind of like
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translates to. I mean it depends.
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Week 25, Yeah. So like, let's say in week 25,
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two teams have six games. Yeah, one team is top of the
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standings. And there's like an All Star
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player who, you know, only plays three of the six games versus
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someone else fighting for a playoff position, you know, 6
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making six. So that's kind of what I'm
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thinking. But yeah, I don't know.
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It's tough. I it really depends who.
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You don't want to drop your All Stars, but at the same time,
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it's honestly a good drafting strategy.
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Or we could talk more about this next year, of course, where
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you're picking guys on fringe playoff teams.
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I think, I think where I'd consider it is when I'm looking
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at waiver wire options and I'm using it as a deal breaker.
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Like, OK, maybe this guy is a little less hot than the other
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guy, but he's on a team that really wants to make the
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playoffs or whatnot and is fighting for that spot.
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Maybe they have more fight and you're assuming that he's gonna
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be in better form because of. It it's not just about more
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fight. It's also like if a guy's on a
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hot streak and he's on a team that's fighting for playoffs,
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those teams are gonna play whoever has the hot hand the
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most. So they're gonna keep riding
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with that person. Yeah.
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Or as if it's a team that's already comfortable.
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They're keeping their top guys in the most, regardless of if
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another guy's hot or not. They don't really need the wins.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what
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I was about to. All right, Queefer?
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Sherwood asks. Is he related to Kiefer
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Sherwood? Oh my God.
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Alright, Kiefer, what's your question?
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Which dark horse team do you think can win the cup this year?
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That's a great question, Cooper. OK, so the dark horse teams, I
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think if you have to look at the playoffs and what the playoff
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picture is going to look like, the fringe playoff teams are
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going to be teams like it's gonna be like Saint Louis.
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It's gonna be like probably Minnesota at this point.
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Like Canadian thermal? Yeah.
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The devils, you know, the senators.
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Crazy the devils are dark horse. Yeah, the Rangers, potentially.
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Yeah, that's. Also, not even more insane.
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Yeah, yeah. OK.
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So that's like kind of the list we're dealing with.
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I feel like Blues is like way more dark horse yeah, than like
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some of the. Others, they're super hot right
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now, right? So they're going into the
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playoffs as one of the hottest teams, Yeah.
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And have the best player in the league.
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Yeah. Dylan Holloway.
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Yeah. So to me, like looking at this
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list like, yeah, the sends would be there too.
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Of course, like you mentioned, I don't know.
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The devil's I'm not choosing. I don't think they can, do they?
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Are the kings of Dark Horse team?
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No, no. They're they're a favorite at
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this. Point they're they're just stuck
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playing the. Yeah, yeah.
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But honestly, I think this is the year they beat them.
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Really. I think so too.
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They've really I'm so. Impressed.
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No chance. Yeah, I didn't.
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Really, I just think they're gonna like.
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Kemper. Yeah, no.
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But here's the thing. I think that it's gonna be
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really big who gets home ice advantage, The King.
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I don't know if you've seen like the Kings record at home versus
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away night and day. And I think the game probably
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goes to seven. I think the series goes to
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seven. Answer note.
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No, but I. Just flipped the table.
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I could try. I think, I think that goes to
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seven and I think that it might be crazy to say, but I think the
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home team wins every game of that series, so I think.
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Whoever wins, I wonder if that's a hot take or.
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Not I think that whoever has home ice advantage is gonna win
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it. And I think LA, especially with
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the Oilers resting Leon and Connor, like, I think Ella's
19:09
gonna get home ice advantage and win it.
19:11
I think so too. OK, but that's not a dark horse
19:13
team. Yeah, that's not a dark horse.
19:14
Probably the Blues. What about the Rangers?
19:18
I don't think Rangers are making the playoffs.
19:20
If they sneak into the playoffs and it's.
19:23
They're a very strong team. Yeah, I don't think the water.
19:27
First round they could be Washington in A7 game series.
19:29
Yes, they can, right? I believe that.
19:32
I mean, if that's your, you can go with that is your answer.
19:34
I'm not, I don't think, making the playoffs.
19:35
But I think the Blues, like fit the definition in the best of
19:38
all of them and. I yeah, like the senators.
19:41
The senators? A lot.
19:42
Blues and Senators. Who the Senators play first
19:44
round? If they're in the first wild
19:46
card, they would play the winner of the Atlantic.
19:47
So it can be any of Florida, Tampa or Toronto.
19:49
Toronto Auto would be a sick person.
19:51
That would be I don't know. I hope that.
19:54
Would be Toronto. OK.
19:55
But if Florida play, I think Florida plays Ottawa.
19:58
Florida. Florida would win.
19:59
Yeah, the ketchup versus ketchup.
20:00
Well, yeah. And I think Ottawa could be
20:02
Tampa though. Yeah, I think I can see Auto
20:05
being the two other teams, but it's obviously gonna go into any
20:07
of those matchups as the other dog.
20:08
Ottawa, St. Louis are my two favorite of
20:12
each, which would be kind of cool, but I like the Blues.
20:15
I just think, you know, we, we spoken about the Montgomery
20:18
effect. Dark Horse right now.
20:20
Honestly, they feel like they've been the best.
20:22
Team So the other thing is. That Don Holloway, baby.
20:25
Yeah, literally. Bennington may have a lot more
20:27
confidence. Honestly, yeah, the Four Nations
20:29
was. Huge.
20:30
And people were like bleeping on him.
20:32
Yeah, for the whole time, you know what I mean?
20:34
Being like, wow, he's washed, he sucks, this and that.
20:36
And then he really came. Through on this.
20:38
Game. So the fact that he still has
20:39
that clutch element, yeah, I don't know.
20:41
It's like an intangible that you kind of like ignore because
20:44
you're like, whatever. But then it actually shows up
20:47
when it matters most and you're like, OK, maybe this is a real
20:49
thing. Like, you know, people who can
20:50
like, play in clutch, like and be.
20:52
So it would be between, it would be between those two.
20:55
And Almark may just not be that healthy.
20:57
Yeah, he just may not be fully healthy right now.
20:59
Yeah. So that's why I would say the
21:00
Blues. Are my yeah.
21:01
I definitely think the Blues are the most likely of the wild card
21:05
teams or dark horse teams to go far in win the cup.
21:07
Yeah. But but of the list that you
21:10
mentioned on paper, the Rangers of the strongest, I just don't
21:13
know if they have it this year. It's just been like.
21:16
If they sneak into the playoffs, though, I feel like they're
21:18
A-Team that's built like they're not that different from last
21:20
year. Things are better.
21:21
Yeah. They even though the Miller not
21:22
hasn't been on P1 so I don't know what's.
21:24
Happening. The coach is just a bit of a
21:26
mess, but also they have to shake things up because they're
21:28
losing, right? So, yeah, but who knows?
21:31
But yeah, I like the Blues as well.
21:32
Alright, next question. Alright, Bing Bang Bang with?
21:35
Amadio asks who will be the next Canadian team to win the Cup.
21:42
The Montreal Canadiens. Alright, cool.
21:44
Next. Next.
21:46
I actually think the senators are are built to.
21:48
Do I think it's gotta be boilers?
21:51
I McDavid is gonna do it. If they don't, it might be this
21:54
year, it might be this year, might be next year, it might be
21:56
the year after. I think it's just this and.
21:57
Next year, but they're, you know, they're gonna have McDavid
21:59
and Draisaitl for the foreseeable future.
22:02
I. Can't, but they keep making
22:03
terrible moves in the offseason like signing like Jeff Skinner
22:06
to lose Holloway in Roseburg is one of the dumbest
22:09
mismanagement. Like if they had a good
22:11
management, you know, like they should have already won a cup.
22:14
But I don't know, I just don't trust their management.
22:17
I don't trust you, Skinner as. I trust those two guys.
22:19
I mean, there's a reason why they were one game away from
22:21
winning last year. Yeah, but you know, two guys can
22:24
get you to the sound like game seven of the finals.
22:27
But you know what? We need three guys really with
22:28
that. Actually.
22:31
Evan Bouchard is that guy. Ohi actually, I don't know.
22:34
Winnipeg's pretty good. Too.
22:36
Yeah, hello Fuck is the best goalie in the.
22:37
League, I just, I don't know if they have it in the playoffs
22:39
too. I feel like Winnipeg.
22:40
Every year I feel like they come in as like a favorite at least
22:43
last couple of years and then they just lose in the 1st.
22:45
Round, yeah, I don't know. To me, To me, I just feel like
22:48
auto was built for it. I love those experiences.
22:53
One way to think about it, though, is like, when do you
22:56
think it's gonna happen, right. If it's happening in the short
22:59
term, then yeah, it's gonna be an Edmonton or Winnipeg.
23:02
They don't pull it off now. In the next couple years, who's
23:04
gonna have the most repeated chances?
23:05
It's gonna be a Montreal or Ottawa.
23:06
I don't, I don't think Toronto's doing it.
23:08
I think Oilers are always gonna be in the mix and I don't I
23:10
don't think Winnipeg is there because Winnipeg going into the
23:13
season right now there, they remind me so much of Dallas have
23:15
last year. Yeah, right.
23:17
It's kind of like we just know they're really solid team, but
23:20
then it comes to the playoffs and then something happens.
23:22
You know, they really, they're Powerblade team in the playoffs,
23:25
in the power plays. Are more scared much at the
23:27
trade deadline and they just lost validity week to week.
23:30
It's a pretty massive loss, but I agree I don't see Winnipeg
23:33
doing it this year. I think either have the most
23:36
firepower and then it's gonna be whoever builds the better team
23:38
between the Senators and the Habs.
23:40
Yeah, I like the Habs. I think.
23:41
Why don't you think? Calgary and Vancouver were just
23:43
kind of ruling out I don't see them.
23:45
Coming into this season, I thought Vancouver was the team,
23:48
but really after what they. DID was awful and Calgary is
23:51
awful. They're only good because of
23:52
Dustin Wolf. Like they only have a chance at
23:55
playoffs because of. Wolf.
23:56
But I'm looking at the Senators lineup like their top three
23:58
lines are stacked. They're really, really good.
24:02
Like what if what if Ottawa was ready truck?
24:05
Well, yeah, no, that changes everything.
24:07
And I do think that they have a mix like Piran.
24:08
Jiru are both very experienced players of course.
24:11
You know, top 90, those guys are going to age out.
24:13
But who do they have on defence? They have.
24:14
Sanderson was amazing and they've got Shabbat.
24:16
Yeah, and I guess Hamonic Jensen.
24:19
Organic is hated by that fan base.
24:22
Not look great on. Defence, they're not great on
24:24
defence and Almark has like kind of, you know, health issues,
24:27
yeah, you know. Yeah, it's.
24:29
He. They just give me squishy.
24:31
The only reason, Kevin, that I don't think it would be the.
24:34
Haves are built for more long term.
24:35
Success. I think the only reason I don't
24:36
think it would be Edmonton is because I don't think Edmonton's
24:39
gonna win this year. And if Edmonton doesn't win this
24:42
year? They'll still be one of the best
24:43
Canadian teams year after as well.
24:45
I mean, they just have the two best players in the world, their
24:49
value. But yeah, no, honestly.
24:50
You're the biggest free agents next year.
24:52
'S. Biggest free agent like going
24:54
going into the. You got Tavarus and Mariner or
24:56
two big ones I could think of right off the bat.
24:58
Because I know the Habs are gonna spend money in the
25:00
offseason. Yeah, like Kent Hughes said.
25:02
It's time we're bringing in some players, you know.
25:04
Yeah, I really. Who are the biggest 2025?
25:09
That's why I think it's like the Senators and the hubs are both 2
25:11
plus years away and I just don't think the Oilers are gonna win
25:14
it this year. I don't think Toronto is going
25:15
to win. I don't think is going to.
25:16
Win I. Pretty much of these guys, we
25:19
have these teams like. You know, hold on, hold on.
25:21
Hold on, but I'm. Going with which one of these
25:24
guys are honestly, which one of these guys are to have signing
25:26
in the offseason? Mitch Marner, Matt Dushane, John
25:30
Tavares, Nick Ellers, Gravlin, Ryan Donato, Brock Nelson,
25:34
Patrick. Kane I could see them getting
25:36
Brock Nelson. Sam Bennett.
25:37
Brad Marshan. Oh, Bennett would be their main,
25:39
their best target. But it could be cool.
25:42
Paul Mary Besser. I mean, how do you go from like
25:45
living in Florida to like, living in like Montreal?
25:47
You know, it's the opposite of where all the.
25:49
Snowbirds. I think Bennett would be like
25:51
the most reasonable best fit of the ones.
25:53
You mean we really need a 2C so we're not going?
25:55
To John Tavares, that'd be crazy.
25:57
I know he would do it. He wouldn't.
25:59
He's a Toronto. Boy no.
26:03
I'd love Bennett. Yeah, with more than Brock
26:07
Nelson. Yeah, I would take my net over
26:08
Nelson. But I would be happy with either
26:10
of them to be. Honest, now that'd be sick.
26:12
Just happens. Just depends what we can.
26:13
See, one almost 50 and one isn't so yeah.
26:15
Exactly. Yeah.
26:18
OK. So my final answer is Alwa.
26:20
You drawing Montreal and Oilers, Kevin?
26:23
Yeah, Oilers. Nice, nice.
26:25
All right, you're a wizard. Jerry asked.
26:28
What staple first round pick won't get picked in the first
26:32
round of the draft the next year?
26:34
And who will jump into the first round?
26:36
OK, wait, side note, did you do you guys know what JJ Peterka
26:41
stands for? John Jacob.
26:43
No, John, Jason. Yeah, yeah.
26:45
I, John, Jason there. That is John Jacob Jingle
26:48
Heimer. Yeah, yeah.
26:52
No, I know. John Jason.
26:53
Yeah, I've never heard them before.
26:54
I've never heard of John something.
26:55
No, no, I looked. It up John Cena all right, what
27:01
first round pick won't get pick in the first round next year and
27:03
will jump into the first round. I mean, I think.
27:06
The easy jump in is Kaprizov right?
27:08
If he, well, I think he already. Was like so fringe like I feel
27:12
like in a lot of. Leagues he's already.
27:14
Yeah, so. OK, wait, this was the first 12
27:21
team league. This was the first round.
27:23
I can tell you he's not. Gonna get in my point.
27:25
Was JT Miller. I was gonna yeah, he didn't go
27:27
in for he didn't go in the first round for a lot of points
27:29
leagues. OK, so McDavid, McKinnon,
27:33
Matthews, Kucherov, Pasta Dry Sydal.
27:36
That's already 6 names. All those guys are going in
27:38
first time next year. Then it's Rantanen probably out
27:41
of the first round. If he's on Dallas, he's going to
27:44
be like a mid second round pick. I think I.
27:45
Don't have to scoop in the second round.
27:47
Panarin was. I could see him dropping out the
27:50
first round. Bar now he's the first.
27:52
He's first round Jack Hughes. Ohhhhh, that's based on.
27:56
The injuries, yeah, I mean, the guys behind him is Matthew could
27:59
Chuck and Carol could resolve. Though he's getting taken first
28:01
for sure. I could drop out of the 1st.
28:04
I don't think so. You don't think?
28:06
I mean, this is the second year in.
28:07
A row if you're a bangers league, Brady Chuck is there for
28:09
sure. Yeah, I, yeah.
28:10
Like obviously the injuries but this is like last year he was
28:13
garbage for like 3/4 of year and then was great the last quarter.
28:16
This year, same. Thing he was good.
28:17
No, he was really good at some points this year.
28:20
Like this year, yeah, he, but he was very inconsistent and then
28:22
he's injured for like. OK.
28:23
We have, we have 8 names of the part in the first round, like
28:26
the top six that I said. And then it's still my car for
28:29
sure, Presov. Earlier we said Rantanen, maybe
28:34
Jack Hughes gives injury. Who drafting?
28:36
Who you drafting first? Between Ranton and Panera and
28:38
Jack Hughes and Matthew Truck, I ranked them.
28:42
I'd go could Chuck Ranton in Hughes and Panarin.
28:47
To Chuck, Hughes, Panera and Random.
28:49
You're not taking JT Miller out of any of those guys.
28:52
In points, no way in bangors. Probably in bangers for sure.
28:55
I think you have to. Because JT.
28:57
Could What about Quinn Hughes? Do you think he makes it in
28:59
there? In the first round.
29:01
In points, yes. Yeah, I don't see why he's so
29:05
why Makar is such a like locked in first rounder and Hughes
29:08
isn't. Yeah, like they're the same
29:10
player in terms of points. And points I think Marner's
29:12
gonna creep into. Their do you think?
29:13
Do you think Hellbox creeps in? I think after how we did this
29:17
year. I would literally never in my
29:19
life pick up goalie in the first round.
29:21
I wouldn't pick a goal in the 1st 10 rounds, but I do think he
29:23
will get picked in the first round.
29:25
Do you think would be deserving? I think it'd be different.
29:27
Serving I think would be a big mistake.
29:29
You know how she was supposed to be a sure thing.
29:33
Yeah, drafted in the mid second. Yeah, like every year you have
29:36
these goalies who are like sure things you see sorrows, which
29:39
was to have a monster you're terrible year.
29:40
You know, like every year you have these goalies, you know
29:43
goalies a whole separate thing. I would never pick on that
29:45
early, but I do think he gets taken that.
29:46
Early, so I think, I think Reinhart and Eichel are gonna.
29:50
Close. Eichel, Reinhart.
29:52
I think I would take head of Panarin.
29:55
I'm taking ahead of Rantanen. Yeah, yeah.
29:59
I'm thinking I call with magical drug.
30:01
It's close. It's crazy how much better of a
30:04
career he would have if he had been drafted by any other team
30:06
than Buffalo. I mean, I'm just happy he got
30:08
out for his sake. Who were the other?
30:10
Who? The team right behind Buffalo
30:11
when he got drafted. Sorry.
30:13
With Who's the team drafting after Buffalo?
30:15
Minton, Edmonton, McDavid and then Michael was second.
30:20
Round yeah. Who's Who's Who's the 3rd
30:22
overview? Oh, OK, Columbus.
30:25
The Ghost PLD. OHT no, no, that's that's sorry.
30:29
That was the pool RV year. I think you're the draft
30:33
champion. Yeah, seriously.
30:34
Sometimes. Sometimes.
30:35
I yeah, so I agree with ankle jumping into the first round.
30:39
Reinhart was not there though. Kevin, right in your list.
30:42
What list of like the points? I don't think any high second
30:46
rounder really. Yeah, I.
30:48
Mean at this point. In points leagues this year, he
30:51
went in the mid fourth round. That's wild.
30:54
He went behind Kyle Connor. He went behind Zibanejad.
30:57
OK, now he deserves to be a second rounder, but.
31:00
I think, I don't think you can understand going into this here
31:02
that people thought maybe. Last for like a flash in the
31:04
pan. Tom was third.
31:07
And then? For Washington, no wait, he was
31:10
drafted by Arizona OHV. Imagine I could went to Arizona
31:12
now his career would have also been washed.
31:14
It would've been way better than.
31:15
Buffalo, though, you have been playing in Mullen Arena.
31:18
Be like Debbie outta here. Yeah, yeah, fair.
31:21
But like, anything's better than Buffalo.
31:22
Man, yeah. Wow, what a draft.
31:24
Yeah, crazy. Isn't actually.
31:25
The previous question was for sure gonna be Ottawa because
31:27
they just traded away Dylan Cousins Buffalo.
31:31
Yeah. So it has to be. 100% yeah.
31:34
That's why they have needed to trade with Buffalo, because
31:36
every time Buffalo trades away a player, they won the cup.
31:38
Yeah, literally guaranteed. There you go.
31:40
That's why Ottawa. Yeah, that's it.
31:42
OK, so cool. I guess we'll move on to the
31:45
next question. All right.
31:48
Next question, My name is Jeff Asked who's the best goalie in
31:55
the universe. Lee right now, Yeah, yeah.
31:58
Are we talking only NHL? Universe.
32:02
You know, there could be. Some sort of like, there's this
32:06
guy on like the Ugandan roller hockey team he's.
32:12
I'm not familiar with you. You know, they interview.
32:16
Yes, I'm talking about people. I mean, the easy answer is hella
32:22
buck, right? Who's better than halibut right
32:26
now? Vasilevsky.
32:27
I would say hello boxer guy. There's yeah, No, that's for
32:30
sure. Hellboy.
32:30
Yeah, Actually it's Jordan Binnington.
32:32
We did just faced off. Honestly, that is.
32:34
True there. Who played better?
32:37
Of all Four Nations in the world, Jordan, Bennington.
32:41
It's just, OK, so you have like you have Sorokin and Hellebuyck,
32:45
who I think are two of like the top guys.
32:46
You may not think Sorokin is like #2 even.
32:49
No. But it's like.
32:50
Think about it though. No, no, I think, I think that's
32:52
less. He's still up there.
32:53
Like Jets have. On anger.
32:54
Jets give me the game like it's hard to choose the guy that's
32:57
better than Maslowski. Jets, Rangers and Tampa Bay are
33:03
all have amazing goalies and they all have sick offensive
33:06
guys. Like who do the Islanders have?
33:09
Like honestly. They just broken.
33:11
We know is that's what I mean. We won't know his full potential
33:14
until he has a team in front of him that can actually win.
33:16
It's it's you know who else we said that about?
33:17
Carrie Price. Yeah.
33:18
He never got a team in front of. Him could, yeah.
33:20
You never wanna cup, yeah? See, like, and then there's
33:22
like, OK, Kemper's not there, but I'm just saying like you can
33:25
compare the fact that like like Kemper and Sorokin are both on
33:29
teams that can't score, but like.
33:32
They could. Score.
33:33
Not really like, I mean they're. Super talent in New York.
33:37
And I mean, like, New York is garbage.
33:39
Like they're a very the Islanders.
33:41
They just don't have a good roster.
33:43
And that's what I mean. Like it's, it's impressive to
33:45
see that there are even in the playoff contest, right?
33:47
Now, but they've been like a playoff team before.
33:50
You're talking about teams that have no business being in the
33:51
playoffs and that are because they're goalie.
33:53
Then the best goal in the world is Dustin Wolf.
33:56
Not there I mean. There's personnel in the
33:59
Islanders, in my opinion. Really.
34:00
Yeah, I think they're horrible. I feel like they have a bit more
34:03
offensive star power. No, they've got Kadri, who I
34:05
really. Like Coronado, Hiberno.
34:07
Yeah, now you're just naming Jose.
34:09
Yeah, they have Kadri and they have Mackenzie Weegar on defence
34:12
and that's their team. Rasmus Andersson, Yeah, I mean,
34:15
that's their second goal. I I hear you so hollow box the
34:20
number one. But I think is the best goalie.
34:23
And then second, I would say, in fact, to put my house on the
34:27
line, I'm going Vasilevski. Here poor.
34:29
House, yeah, I mean also like it's so subjective, right?
34:32
We don't have what's our definition of best goal.
34:34
You know, like if you plop him in front of the same team, who
34:36
does the best or who? I mean, I think you can also
34:39
tell, like, you know, when they play for their international
34:41
teams. Was a starter.
34:42
Yeah. Like halibut was better than all
34:43
the other US goalies. Yeah, yeah.
34:45
True. He.
34:46
Yeah, lot to me. So which nationality is the
34:49
best? It would be Russia.
34:50
I don't even think it's a contest.
34:52
Vassy, Bob. Bob.
34:56
Yeah, that's ridiculous. We're kinda used to be the
34:59
goalie factory. Yeah, we were like horrible
35:01
right now. We've got Binnington Hill and
35:04
Logan Tumble. Yeah, exactly.
35:07
Yeah. Thompson and Blackwood.
35:08
Yeah, where's Fowler? Kemper, the US, right?
35:10
Jacob Fowler is the US. Yeah, there you go.
35:12
No, I mean Canada, is just nodded.
35:15
For both. Did you see what people were
35:17
saying? Why that is, is because like all
35:20
the the this whole generation of Canadians grew up watching Cindy
35:23
Crawled. You wanted to be the next Cindy
35:24
Crosby that there would be. Nobody became goalies anymore.
35:28
Carrie Price and. Longo and that was that was our
35:31
that was before Crosby. Yeah, the kids were growing up
35:35
looking wanted to be Crosby. Crosby were like the same arrow.
35:38
You think? Didn't have like the injury like
35:41
but yeah, they were drafted pretty much around the same
35:43
time. Yeah, I got it.
35:45
But to me, to me it's yeah, it's hella Buck.
35:49
And then who's number 2? Let's do 123 and then.
35:52
We'll leski #2 yeah, after tonight in my fantasy season,
35:58
capture them because it's. I It's hard to argue against
36:04
Vasilevsky just with how what he's done.
36:05
You know those cups? And definitely would put him at
36:07
1 though. Yeah, it's about who's the best
36:09
right now, right? But it's not like he stopped
36:12
doing stuff. Starting my team and starting my
36:14
hug. But then.
36:15
Halibut Vasilevski. I would agree with that as #2
36:17
but I think my #3 would be Ottinger I really like.
36:21
I don't think. I think is better than. #3 I
36:29
like having an off year to be. Honest, it wasn't necessarily
36:33
great either. So it's really special,
36:35
honestly. Yeah.
36:37
Yeah, I've watched a lot of working this year.
36:39
I could tell you special. All right, fine, Yakub Dobish.
36:44
There you go. Yeah.
36:45
All right, everybody, that wraps up our mailbag episode for this
36:48
week. Thank you to all who submitted
36:49
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