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Episode #3983 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive July 2002 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another Radio Archive Hour here on the world-famous
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Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show for today, this Monday.
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Speaker 1: Archive Hours. On this particular hour, or in this particular hour,
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Speaker 1: it's from the month of July 2002, but it reflects
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Speaker 1: Christmas of 2001. So what we basically discovered here is
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Speaker 1: in July of 2002, we were playing back an hour
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Speaker 1: from Christmas of 2001. And it's Jay Santos of the Citizens'
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Speaker 1: Auxiliary Police who believes that Santa beards look too much
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Speaker 1: like Osama bin Laden beards, and it's a security risk.
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Speaker 1: So Santa Claus at the mall.
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Speaker 2: You know what, dude?
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Speaker 1: You're going to have to shave that beard and do
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Speaker 1: something because we can't deal with that. You look too
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Speaker 1: much like Bin Laden. You're scaring the kids. Of course,
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Speaker 1: Jay's wrong.
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Speaker 2: He's an idiot.
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Speaker 1: And you can hear how it all plays out right here.
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Speaker 1: Jay Santos from July of 2002. What you guys are
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Speaker 1: doing is doing some mall surveillance today. Now, the Citizens
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Speaker 1: Auxiliary Police is a volunteer police agency out of the
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Speaker 1: South Bay in Los Angeles.
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Speaker 2: And you guys are out as a volunteer force.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Phil, the Citizens Advisory Police, not to interrupt you.
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Speaker 2: No, go ahead.
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Speaker 3: We are a volunteer force, but we are out in
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Speaker 3: force to assist the police and sort of keep an
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Speaker 3: eye on what's going on and take a peek over
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Speaker 3: their shoulder. The police, I think at times, probably even
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Speaker 3: they would have been a little overwhelmed. So we take
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Speaker 3: a peek over their shoulder and make sure that.
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Speaker 2: But you guys are not police officers.
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Speaker 3: That's your read, okay?
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Speaker 2: Well, you guys are not... All right, let me just.
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Speaker 1: You're volunteer police officers, is that correct?
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Speaker 3: We are volunteer police officers, but we do utilize constitutional
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Speaker 3: right of citizen's arrest, if that's what you're asking.
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Speaker 1: All right, let's get to what's going on now. You're
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Speaker 1: going from mall to mall checking out the situation with
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Speaker 1: regard to kids, Santa Clauses, and the security there?
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you right now, Phil... Stand by. We're over
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Speaker 3: near the Delama Mall right now. My son, Justin, and
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Speaker 3: you know Justin, he's only three years old.
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Speaker 2: I do know your son, yeah.
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Speaker 3: Was watching the evening news the other night. He was
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Speaker 3: sitting with his father, sitting with me, and sitting with
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Speaker 3: his mommy, watching the news. And he's young, and he
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Speaker 3: doesn't know what's really going on over the news. But
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Speaker 3: something happened I don't think I'm ever going to forget
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Speaker 3: as long as I'm a father and as long as
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Speaker 3: I am a, I guess, a man who loves his
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Speaker 3: son and a man who loves his country. My son
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Speaker 3: saw a picture of Osama bin Laden on the news.
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Speaker 3: They had shown a picture of him as part of
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Speaker 3: the FBI's ongoing campaign to round up terrorists. And I'll
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Speaker 3: never forget my little boy pointing at the screen when
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Speaker 3: the picture of Osama bin Laden came up, Phil. And
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Speaker 3: I hope you can hear me.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I can. You're driving.
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Speaker 3: We're driving and doing some surveillance. He pointed at the
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Speaker 3: picture of Osama bin Laden, and he said, Santa Claus,
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus. He pointed at Osama and he said.
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Speaker 2: Your son looked at the Osama bin Laden picture?
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Speaker 3: That is correct.
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Speaker 2: And he thought he was looking at Santa Claus?
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Speaker 3: That is correct. Phil, I got to tell you, I
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Speaker 3: can feel my guts turning inside out. The son of
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Speaker 3: a law enforcement officer sees Osama bin Laden and Santa
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Speaker 3: Claus as the same person. I don't know how many
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Speaker 3: millions of kids are doing the same thing right now,
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Speaker 3: but if a three-year-old child mistakes the picture of Osama
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Speaker 3: bin Laden for Santa Claus... I think there are some
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Speaker 3: things we can do as parents. There are some things
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Speaker 3: we can do as a citizen's advisory police and interested
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Speaker 3: law enforcement to minimize the negative effect it's going to
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Speaker 3: have on our children. And we are talking about now
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Speaker 3: our children, Phil.
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Speaker 1: Osama bin Laden doesn't look a lot like Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: Well, you're an adult, and you see what you see
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Speaker 3: as an adult. But a child sees the beard, and
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Speaker 3: he sees the man, and he thinks that's Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: So we have some problems, and we have the problem
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Speaker 3: of the Taliban, which, of course, our country's been fighting.
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Speaker 3: We've got a lot of different problems, and it all
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Speaker 3: goes back to... I think an area that we can control.
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Speaker 3: As you know, the Taliban wears the beard, and that
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Speaker 3: has represented oppression for a long time. And I think
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Speaker 3: that's what Justin saw. I think that's what my son saw,
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Speaker 3: was the similar.
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Speaker 2: So you think the beard on Osama bin Laden and
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Speaker 2: the beard on Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: I think that's probably what it is.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's a three-year-old. That's what he's going to do.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely right, Phil. But I think there's some things we
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Speaker 3: can do. And what we have done through our substation
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Speaker 3: in Torrance and our substation out in Pasadena is we
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Speaker 3: have put a couple of the malls on notice. that
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Speaker 3: what we would like to see, at least for this Christmas,
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Speaker 3: is for the Santa Clauses that they're employing, the individuals
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Speaker 3: they employ with the Santa Claus beard, that they remove
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Speaker 3: the beard.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a broad departure from the look of Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: I'm aware of that, Phil, and I don't think that
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Speaker 3: there's anybody more aware of it. I'm a father of
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Speaker 3: a three-year-old boy who very much does believe in Santa Claus,
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Speaker 3: but I don't see any other way of getting around this.
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Speaker 3: What we are asking the malls to do in the
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Speaker 3: various municipalities and substations that we control is to have
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Speaker 3: the Santas take the beard off. I think the beard represents,
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Speaker 3: to a lot of people, a Taliban. It represents Osama
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Speaker 3: bin Laden. And let me tell you something, the only
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Speaker 3: gifts that Osama's thrown down a chimney usually take off
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Speaker 3: a few limbs. And I do not want my child
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Speaker 3: identifying Osama bin Laden with Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: You guys are asking the malls?
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Speaker 3: Right now we're asking it.
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Speaker 1: You're asking the malls to have their Santa Clauses take
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Speaker 1: off the beards.
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Speaker 3: Right. But if we do get resistance, then that's something
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Speaker 3: we're going to have to deal with.
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Speaker 1: All right, we're talking with Jay Santos from the Citizens
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Speaker 1: Auxiliary Police. Your son, your three-year-old son, made the mistake
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Speaker 1: of looking at Osama bin Laden on TV and pointed
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Speaker 1: and said Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: So you think it's the beard?
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Speaker 3: We're pretty sure it's the beard, yeah.
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Speaker 2: So you are having Santa Claus, or at least you're
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Speaker 2: asking malls to have Santa Clauses take the beards off.
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Speaker 3: For this, it's the Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's give.
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Speaker 1: Our phone number out here, 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. Well, first of all,
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Speaker 1: you're not going to get Santa Claus to take the
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Speaker 1: beards off, because Santa Claus is the beard.
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Speaker 3: Well, we know we're going to meet with some resistance still,
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Speaker 3: but my three-year-old boy is, I think, typical of a
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Speaker 3: lot of kids. And if my son thinks that Osama
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Speaker 3: bin Laden looks like Santa Claus, then I've got to
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Speaker 3: tell you, Osama bin Laden looks like Santa Claus.
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Speaker 2: What if it's only your son, though? No, no.
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Speaker 3: I got a three-year-old boy. He's a very intelligent boy.
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Speaker 3: The Santa Claus for Christmas only need to take the
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Speaker 3: beard off.
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Speaker 1: Get people, men wearing Santa Claus costumes to take the
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Speaker 1: beard off if they don't want.
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Speaker 2: To take it off.
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Speaker 3: Well, that's a problem law enforcement faces.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but how are you going to do this, okay?
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Speaker 1: You're not a duly constituted police force.
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Speaker 3: Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil. We are a volunteer police agency.
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Speaker 3: We are empowered to look over the shoulder of police officers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're a volunteer guy, and you have a
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Speaker 1: little police department.
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Speaker 3: It's not a little police department.
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Speaker 1: All right, but it's a police agency without any real
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Speaker 1: enforcement power.
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Speaker 2: How are you going to get these guys to take
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Speaker 2: their beards off?
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Speaker 3: We are going to respectfully ask the malls, get the
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Speaker 3: beards off your Santas. We've got a problem. The kids
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Speaker 3: are misidentifying Santa Claus. They think that he looks a
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Speaker 3: bit like a wanted federal terrorist, a federal felon. Now,
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Speaker 3: we cannot take that chance.
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Speaker 1: But how are you going to get these guys to
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Speaker 1: take off their Santa Claus beards if they don't want to?
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Speaker 3: If they resist us, then we are going to... We're
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Speaker 3: going to have to rock and roll. But I can
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Speaker 3: tell you.
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Speaker 2: What does that mean, you're going to rock and roll?
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Speaker 3: It means that we're going to, one way or the other,
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Speaker 3: get the beards off these Santa Claus who are wearing
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Speaker 3: them because we have got a situation where a wanted felon,
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Speaker 3: wanted by the FBI, $ 25 million price on his head, looks...
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Speaker 3: like Santa Claus to a lot of kids.
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Speaker 1: Well, so far we've only been able to identify, Jay,
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Speaker 1: and with all due respect to you and your family,
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Speaker 1: who I know, and they're nice people, it's only your
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Speaker 1: son who pointed at a TV screen and said that
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Speaker 1: that looks like Santa Claus, okay?
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Speaker 3: My son said it. My son is a three-year-old child.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what it is you're getting at.
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Speaker 2: I'm saying it was just your son. It wasn't any
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Speaker 2: other kid.
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Speaker 3: I can tell you right now that if my three-year-old
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Speaker 3: son says that Osama bin Laden looks like Santa Claus,
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Speaker 3: then every single three-year-old in the United States of America
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Speaker 3: can possibly make that same mistake. I've got a very
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Speaker 3: typical son. I've got a very healthy son. Jerry, let's
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Speaker 3: look at the bigger picture here. When your child starts singing,
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Speaker 3: I saw Mommy Kissin' Santa Claus, think about your own
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Speaker 3: wife with her lips wrapped around that rug head. And
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Speaker 3: I can tell you.
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Speaker 2: Well, look at that.
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Speaker 3: Jim, I mean, it just makes my blood boil.
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Speaker 2: Okay, well, hold the line here. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Taking the beard off of Santa Claus this Halloween, this
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Speaker 1: Christmas season, because he looks too much like Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 1: This is what Jay Santos and the other members of
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Speaker 1: the Citizens Auxiliary Police, a volunteer police agency, say they're
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Speaker 1: going to do, whether the Santas like it or not.
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Speaker 2: Let's go over to Dan on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 3: Hello? Hello, yeah, Mr. Santos. Hello, Mr.
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Speaker 2: Santos.
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Speaker 3: Go ahead, Dan. How you doing, buddy? I'm going to
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Speaker 3: guess that you don't got a dumb kid, okay? I'm
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Speaker 3: going to give you that.
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Speaker 4: Why don't you just sit your kid down and.
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Speaker 3: Talk to him? explain to the kid the difference. Why
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Speaker 3: do we got to alter our whole image of Santa
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Speaker 3: Claus and Christmas? Because your little boy, you know, his
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Speaker 3: imagination isn't what he's looking at. Why don't you have
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Speaker 3: a talk to him? Because I don't know whether you
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Speaker 3: know it or not, but we're at war against the Taliban.
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Speaker 3: They wear a beard, which is a restrictive and representative
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Speaker 3: of an oppressive way of life. So that's what we
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Speaker 3: ought to do, Dan. As soon as you, if you
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Speaker 3: got any kids, which somehow I don't think you do,
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Speaker 3: but if you do, or if you did, you'd, probably
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Speaker 3: know the dilemma that i'm up against let.
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Speaker 2: Me go over here to lee lee you're on a
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Speaker 2: phil henry show hello hi.
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Speaker 4: I have a comment on this gentleman saying that his
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Speaker 4: three-year-old son looks at santa claus and thinks of him
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Speaker 4: as bin laden we have been told by our country
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Speaker 4: by our leader our president to live our lives like
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Speaker 4: normal To disrobe Santa Claus's beard is not living our
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Speaker 4: life like normal.
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Speaker 3: Well, ma'am, by the same token, we can't just go
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Speaker 3: into airports with guns, can we? And we can't go
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Speaker 3: into airports with box cutters. We do have to make
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Speaker 3: some changes.
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Speaker 4: You need to explain to your son that not every
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Speaker 4: man that wears a beard is a terrorist. And we
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Speaker 4: need to keep living our lives like normal.
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Speaker 3: You know, that's true, but by the same token, why
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Speaker 3: does he have to wear a beard? See what I'm saying?
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Speaker 3: That's Santa Claus.
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Speaker 5: Santa Claus has a beard.
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Speaker 3: And that's Osama bin Laden, too. And if there's any
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Speaker 3: chance at all that our children are making a mistake
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Speaker 3: between Osama bin Laden and Santa Claus... There's nothing wrong
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Speaker 3: with a clean-shaven Santa. I don't think it changes anything.
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Speaker 3: Let me tell you something, ma'am. Santa Claus is coming
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Speaker 3: to town. Santa Claus already came to town. September the 11th,
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Speaker 3: he came to town.
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Speaker 2: Well, you can't say that. That isn't true. That wasn't
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Speaker 2: Santa coming to town.
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus came to town. 9-11, he came to town.
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Speaker 3: Came a little early. That's not true. You are.
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Speaker 4: You are making Santa Claus into Bin Laden, not your son.
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Speaker 3: My son pointed at the screen and said, Santa Claus,
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus. And I'll tell you something else. And the
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Speaker 3: day that our kids point at that screen and see
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Speaker 3: a picture of Osama and go, Jesus, Jesus. So you
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Speaker 3: sit down and explain.
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Speaker 6: To your son.
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Speaker 4: Do you not communicate with your child?
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Speaker 3: Of course I do, but he's three. He only understands da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
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Speaker 3: That's all he understands. Well, that's your son. Okay.
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Speaker 4: There are a lot of three-year-olds out there that look
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Speaker 4: at Santa Claus and love him and don't consider that
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Speaker 4: he's Bin Laden.
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Speaker 3: I don't know that you can say that, ma'am, until
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Speaker 3: all the reports are in.
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Speaker 4: Well, maybe you need to take a poll.
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Speaker 2: Of three-year-olds, guys. Okay, thank you for your call, ma'am. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Jay Sanos, the Citizens Auxiliary Police. A controversial decision to
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Speaker 1: try to get the beards off of all the Santas
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Speaker 1: in the malls because his son, at least, looked at
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Speaker 1: the TV one night, saw Osama bin Laden on the TV,
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Speaker 1: and pointed at his picture and said, Santa, Santa.
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Speaker 2: A chilling thought for any parent. Phil Henry Show. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: And now more on the Phil Hendry Show.
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Speaker 3: I understand, too.
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Speaker 1: Jay, you said that, and I'm with Jay Santos of
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Speaker 1: the Citizens of the United States Police. You said your
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Speaker 1: three-year-old saw Osama bin Laden on TV and said, that's
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Speaker 1: Santa Claus?
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Speaker 3: He pointed the screen, Phil, and said, Santa, Santa.
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Speaker 1: And we had somebody say, and I would say the
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Speaker 1: same thing, why don't you just explain the difference between
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Speaker 1: Santa Claus and Osama?
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Speaker 3: Phil, let me explain what it is, because I don't
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Speaker 3: know if you're the father of a young child. Three-year-olds
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Speaker 3: are too stupid to understand, and I say that with
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Speaker 3: great love in my heart, okay? I'm not saying I
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Speaker 3: love my son very much, but a three-year-old is simply
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Speaker 3: too stupid, just flat stupid, to understand the difference between
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Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden and Santa Claus. There's also something else
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Speaker 3: I want to bring up. I think it's a little scary,
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Speaker 3: but I think we have to bring it up. I
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Speaker 3: think every parent has to point to this possibility, that
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Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden understands that he looks like Santa Claus
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Speaker 3: to a lot of American kids. and may somehow be
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Speaker 3: trying to infiltrate the country.
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Speaker 2: No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Hold on, Shea. That's way over.
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Speaker 3: Phil, I am telling you it's a possibility that Osama
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Speaker 3: bin Laden understands that he has a resemblance to either
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus or Jesus Christ himself and is trying to
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Speaker 3: infiltrate into the minds of the three-year-old, which is too
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Speaker 3: stupid to understand the difference. Now, the next thing you know,
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Speaker 3: you know, the Sheikh Omar is Mrs. Claus and the
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Speaker 3: Taliban guys with no legs are the elves or whatever
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Speaker 3: you want to... call it but we've got a problem
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Speaker 3: that we've got to deal with the problem that it
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Speaker 3: has a lot of ability.
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Speaker 1: Jason and so you're going to be taken beards off
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Speaker 1: the santa claus is whether they like it or not
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Speaker 1: we are asking for respect you said if they.
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Speaker 2: Didn't take the beard off you'd rock and.
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Speaker 3: Roll that's my job a law enforcement officer trying to
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Speaker 3: save lives.
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Speaker 2: Here is uh.
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Speaker 1: elena on the phil henry show elena go ahead uh.
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Speaker 3: well uh.
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Speaker 5: the people part of all uh... With all my respect, Mr.
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus, I'm a mother, and I have a three-year-old.
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Speaker 3: You have a what, ma'am?
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Speaker 5: I have a three-year-old girl.
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Speaker 3: All right, so you understand. They're too stupid to understand
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Speaker 3: the difference between a Santa Claus and a Santa Claus.
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Speaker 5: Sir, I'm really sorry that you're talking about your child stupid.
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Speaker 5: My daughter watches the TV, and she's telling me, Mom,
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Speaker 5: this is President Bush. And she knows who.
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Speaker 3: Is Santa Claus. Because he wears a suit. Because he
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Speaker 3: wears a suit.
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Speaker 5: Please don't interrupt me, sir. Let me finish my comment
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Speaker 5: because I have a question for you.
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Speaker 3: Does your child have a problem, doesn't understand just when
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus is present? Blush? Jesus.
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Speaker 5: You did not understand because you interrupt me.
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Speaker 2: What did you say? I was saying....
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Speaker 5: When my daughter watches the news and when she sees
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Speaker 5: the President Bush, she recognizes him. When my daughter sees
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Speaker 5: Osama Bin Laden, she says, this is the bad person
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Speaker 5: because she cannot pronounce the name.
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Speaker 3: And she's not pointing at President Bush.
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Speaker 5: No, she's finding Osama bin Laden, sir.
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Speaker 3: All right, sure. But I have a question.
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Speaker 5: I have a question to you.
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Speaker 3: How do you know it's Osama bin Laden, ma'am?
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Speaker 2: Oh, come on.
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Speaker 5: Because I'm watching the news with her and I'm explaining
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Speaker 5: to her what's happening.
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Speaker 3: How do you know it isn't one of those tablecloth heads?
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Speaker 3: They all look the same.
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Speaker 2: No, they don't all look the same.
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Speaker 5: Sir, I would like to ask you a question, if
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Speaker 5: I may.
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Speaker 3: Why does your kid hate Santa Claus, ma'am, is the
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Speaker 3: question we want to ask. You let the lady.
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Speaker 2: You didn't say her son hates Santa Claus. Go ahead, Elena.
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Speaker 3: Okay. I have a question.
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Speaker 5: Go ahead. If Mr. Santa's son makes a mistake and
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Speaker 5: asks if Jesus is Santa Claus, what.
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Speaker 4: Is he going to say?
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Speaker 5: To take the icons out of the church?
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Speaker 3: I'm going to say we've got a problem. Yes, ma'am.
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Speaker 3: I mean, if children think that Osama looks like Jesus,
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Speaker 3: we've got a problem with Jesus Christ.
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Speaker 2: We don't.
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Speaker 5: Or maybe we have a problem with the parents that
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Speaker 5: they don't have time to sit and talk with their kids.
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Speaker 3: Elena, I would never say that you're a bad parent.
15:50
Speaker 3: I think you're a great parent. That's why I say
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Speaker 3: your kid's too stupid. You're fine. There's nothing wrong with you,
15:54
Speaker 3: but your kid is a clown.
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Speaker 5: My child is not stupid, sir.
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Speaker 2: Her child knows the difference between President Bush.
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Speaker 3: And Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Duh. One of them's got a beard.
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Speaker 2: The other one doesn't.
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Speaker 3: But what about you guys who have a beard? See,
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Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying, Elena. Bush doesn't have a beard. No, sir, no, sir.
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Speaker 5: My daughter goes and she knows on the most who
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Speaker 5: is Santa Claus and she never said that this is
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Speaker 5: Osama Bin Laden or vice versa.
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Speaker 3: She doesn't say, can I go sit in Osama Bin
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Speaker 3: Laden's lap?
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Speaker 6: No, sir.
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Speaker 3: Well, ma'am, you are.
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Speaker 5: I think that you should sit and talk to your son, sir,
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Speaker 5: because I believe that there are so many kids that
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Speaker 5: they know the difference, even though they're three years old.
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Speaker 3: Your son sees Bin Laden and says, bad man. My
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Speaker 3: question is, did you do something to your child to
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Speaker 3: traumatize your child into hating Santa Claus?
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Speaker 5: Oh, that's ridiculous.
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Speaker 3: You're really tweeting something.
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Speaker 5: The only thing I.
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Speaker 3: Would like to say.
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Speaker 2: No, she did not say that.
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Speaker 1: She said that he pointed at a picture of Santa
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Speaker 1: Claus and said he was a bad man.
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Speaker 3: That's what I said. I mean, no.
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Speaker 2: She pointed at.
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Speaker 3: See, you pointed at a picture of Santa Claus and
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Speaker 3: said he's a bad man.
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Speaker 5: No, sir, you're confusing yourself.
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Speaker 2: No, she pointed at a picture of Santa Claus.
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Speaker 1: I mean, her son pointed at a picture of Bin
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Speaker 1: Laden and said he's a bad man.
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Speaker 3: That's not what you said originally.
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Speaker 6: I know.
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Speaker 5: Exactly, this is what I said, sir. Yes, that was exactly.
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Speaker 2: What I said.
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Speaker 1: You're confusing me.
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Speaker 3: Mr. Henry, if you're that easily confused and your listeners
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Speaker 3: are that easily confused, I submit, sir, that you're confusing
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Speaker 3: the public.
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Speaker 5: I would like to pray to God that we don't
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Speaker 5: have a lot of people like you over there.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to save lives. I'm trying to save lives,
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Speaker 3: and you're trying to tell me? My little tiny kid saying, look,
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Speaker 3: there goes Jesus Christ down the street, and it's some
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Speaker 3: towelhead trying to blow up a building? No, ma'am, no, ma'am, no, ma'am. Well,
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Speaker 3: good luck to you, sir, with your three-year-old.
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Speaker 2: Elena, thank you for your call. Thank you. Good luck. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: You said, Mr. Henry, that the kid pointed.
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Speaker 2: I know what I said.
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Speaker 1: I said that the kid pointed at a picture of
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Speaker 1: Santa Claus and said he's a bad man.
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Speaker 3: Right.
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Speaker 1: No, he pointed at Osama bin Laden and said that's
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Speaker 1: a picture of a bad man.
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Speaker 3: Well, which is it, Mr. Hendry? You guys in the
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Speaker 3: talk radio.
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Speaker 1: You know what I said, and you're trying to twist
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Speaker 1: my words around, man. I said the kid saw bin Laden,
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Speaker 1: thought he was a... Wait a minute, her kid, yeah,
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Speaker 1: her kid said bad man.
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Speaker 3: And my kid said Santa Claus, and maybe some other
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Speaker 3: kid's going to say Jesus. So in other words, her
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Speaker 3: kid and my kid, we're going on that? What about
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Speaker 3: all the other kids? You want me to go and
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Speaker 3: interview every three-year-old in America? and take our time, and
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Speaker 3: meanwhile buildings are blowing up, crop dusters are spreading anthrax,
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Speaker 3: just like, hey, excuse me, does that look like a
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Speaker 3: good man or a bad man? That's all a three-year-old knows.
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Speaker 3: And for that woman to say that she communicates with
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Speaker 3: her child on some level other than that, I think
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Speaker 3: is false and I think is very dishonest. A three-year-old
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Speaker 3: child can simply look at you and say, that's all
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Speaker 3: they say. And a lot of it sounds very reminiscent
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Speaker 3: of some of that Arab talk that they use.
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Speaker 2: Hold on.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Does Santa Claus look like Bin Laden?
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Speaker 2: We'll be back on the Phil Henry Show. 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 3: And now, Phil Henry.
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Speaker 2: I don't think so.
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Speaker 5: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: You're listening to The Phil Henry Show. With me is
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Speaker 1: Jay Santos. He is with the Citizens Auxiliary Police. My understanding,
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Speaker 1: your rank with them is you are a brigadier sub-admiral, correct?
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Speaker 3: That's correct.
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Speaker 2: You're a brigadier sub-admiral with the citizens.
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Speaker 3: That's correct, Mr.
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Speaker 5: Henry.
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Speaker 3: We have a command structure that is in place, and
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Speaker 3: it is something that is utilized for us. We don't
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Speaker 3: necessarily need the public to comment.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, but.
19:36
Speaker 1: Let's get back to the, you know, your organization, a
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Speaker 1: volunteer police agency, is going around to malls and telling
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Speaker 1: Santa Clauses to take the beard off.
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Speaker 3: We are at risk of millions of American children who
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Speaker 3: will make the mistake of seeing Santa Claus and thinking
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Speaker 3: it's Osama Bin Laden or seeing Osama Bin Laden.
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Speaker 2: Don't you think that's a little ridiculous?
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Speaker 1: Like someone said, a three-year-old child could be explained to
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Speaker 1: the difference?
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Speaker 2: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Henry, I'm not trying to be funny, but about the
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Speaker 3: only person a three-year-old child could talk to would be
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Speaker 3: Anne Heche. And I think the two of them understand
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Speaker 3: each other very well. I don't know if you read
20:09
Speaker 3: excerpts from her book or if you've seen her on
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Speaker 3: some of the talk programs, but she is definitely one
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Speaker 3: for the books. And my three-year-old son can communicate very
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Speaker 3: well with Ms. Hayes. Beyond that, I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're trying to make some funny jokes here at
20:22
Speaker 1: the expense of a Christmas tradition.
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Speaker 3: We are not taking Santa Claus away from anyone. We're
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Speaker 3: asking them to take the beard off.
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Speaker 2: What does Santa Claus look like without a beard? Who
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Speaker 2: is Santa Claus without a beard?
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus without a beard is Wilford Brimley. He is
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Speaker 3: Marlon Brando. He's a heavy-set man with gray hair. And
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Speaker 3: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. And I
20:43
Speaker 3: certainly don't think with the Taliban and the threat to
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Speaker 3: our nation, we know what it is. You want to
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Speaker 3: see your kid point to Osama bin Laden and say,
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Speaker 3: John the Baptist, John the Baptist, Jesus Christ, Jesus Christ,
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Speaker 3: Jerry Garcia, Jerry Garcia, any of these people who are
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Speaker 3: beloved of our society. I don't think so.
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Speaker 1: Kid's going to point at giant Osama bin Laden and
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Speaker 1: say Jerry Garcia.
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Speaker 3: The late Mr. Garcia is a state I'm sure would
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Speaker 3: have something to say about it if you think that
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Speaker 3: it's being frivolous, Mr. Henry.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I do.
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Speaker 3: 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 2: Erica, you're on the Phil Henry Show. Hello.
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Speaker 5: Yes.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, ma'am.
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Speaker 6: Mr. Santos, you're pretty ignorant when you say that you're
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Speaker 6: going to tell the Santas to take off their beards.
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Speaker 6: I'm looking at a picture of my son, three years old,
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Speaker 6: not stupid. He's seen a picture of bin Laden on
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Speaker 6: the TV. He was afraid of him. He went and
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Speaker 6: seen Santa Claus, and he had no problem sitting on
21:33
Speaker 6: his lap.
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Speaker 3: That's before Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 6: No, after this year, this holiday season.
21:39
Speaker 3: But before he saw a picture of Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 6: No, this was after he'd seen a picture of Bin Laden.
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Speaker 3: So you actually took your child to see Santa Claus
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Speaker 3: even though you had shown him Osama Bin Laden?
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Speaker 6: No, he's seen it on the news. It's always on.
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Speaker 6: It's covered all the time.
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Speaker 3: He has a.
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Speaker 6: Big old cheesy smile, told Santa what he wanted for Christmas.
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Speaker 3: Well, ma'am, if your child is at a point in
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Speaker 3: his life where he thinks Osama Bin Laden is a
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Speaker 3: good guy.
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Speaker 6: No, my son's scared to death of him, but he
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Speaker 6: had no problem with Santa.
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Speaker 3: He sat in his lap.
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Speaker 6: He had no problem with Santa.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you said he's got no problem with the son
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Speaker 3: of Bin Laden. No, he had, no. What's he doing
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Speaker 3: sitting in his lap? Why'd you put him in his lap?
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Speaker 6: She didn't put him in Bin Laden's lap.
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Speaker 2: She put him in Santa Claus's lap.
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Speaker 3: That's not what the kid said.
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Speaker 5: She just said that she saw the kid.
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Speaker 6: If you try to take Santa's beard away from Santa
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Speaker 6: and not explain to your child the difference, then your
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Speaker 6: son's going to.
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Speaker 3: Grow up to be just as ignorant as you are.
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Speaker 3: You know the Taliban wears beards?
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Speaker 6: Yes, I know that. A lot of other people wear
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Speaker 6: a beard. My own grandfather wore a beard.
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Speaker 3: But how come they're shaving their beards off now? How
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Speaker 3: come they're shaving their beards off in Afghanistan?
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Speaker 6: Because that's their country.
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Speaker 3: That's what they're going on over there. That's because the
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Speaker 3: beard is an evil thing. And I'm saying if a
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Speaker 3: three-year-old child sees the beard as evil... My son doesn't
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Speaker 3: see the beard as evil. Her son doesn't see the
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Speaker 3: beard as evil.
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Speaker 2: My son sees everything else as evil.
22:57
Speaker 3: Your son sees everything else as evil.
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Speaker 6: About Bin Laden, not Santa Claus.
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Speaker 3: Okay, well.
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Speaker 6: Don't you think that, I mean, Halloween was taken away
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Speaker 6: from the kids pretty much. Why are you going to
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Speaker 6: do that with Christmas?
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Speaker 3: I didn't take Halloween away from the children other than
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Speaker 3: to say that Halloween was a pretty good time for
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Speaker 3: terrorist assaults.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the process scared everybody.
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Speaker 6: To death, okay? I did not let my father.
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Speaker 3: You talk to your three-year-old son? You talk to your
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Speaker 3: three-year-old son?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, my three-year-old son speaks very well for his age.
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Speaker 3: Large, big words? Yes, he does.
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Speaker 6: He can talk to me. I can understand him, and
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Speaker 6: he can understand me.
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't say goo-ga-ga or nothing like that?
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Speaker 6: No, he doesn't.
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Speaker 3: Well, okay. Must be one of those freak kids then.
23:35
Speaker 6: Maybe you shelter your son too much.
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Speaker 3: Is he one of those freak kids that's going to
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Speaker 3: go to Oxford when he's like 14?
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Speaker 6: I hope he can.
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Speaker 3: Well, see, that's weird. Sky's the limit for him. Big
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Speaker 3: two-syllable words?
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Speaker 2: Big two-syllable words.
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Speaker 3: That's right.
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Speaker 2: All right, look, Erica, thanks for your call. 1-800-449-8686. Look,
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Speaker 2: if the kid isn't afraid of Santa Claus, then he's
23:55
Speaker 2: not afraid of Santa Claus, right?
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Speaker 3: But what if the child is? What if the child
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Speaker 3: thinks that Santa and Osama bin Laden somehow are teamed
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Speaker 3: up or otherwise are operating together? What if the child.
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Speaker 1: Oh, will you come on, man. If the kid can
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Speaker 1: sit in the guy's lap and not be worried about it.
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Speaker 3: That could possibly mean he doesn't mind Osama bin Laden.
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Speaker 3: Or maybe they're brothers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, or maybe Jesus is their cousin.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, Phil. What I'm trying to do is
24:21
Speaker 3: move as quickly as we can to avert something that
24:23
Speaker 3: I think is going to be very, very tragic. Very tragic.
24:27
Speaker 3: And that is the attempted assault of mall centers by
24:30
Speaker 3: these kids who think it's bin Laden. You get a
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Speaker 3: line of kids, you want to make it so they're funny.
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Speaker 2: Until attempted assault you heard me Laura you're on the
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Speaker 2: phil henry show home Laura you're on the phil henry.
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Speaker 7: Show hello I am I think you know I totally
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Speaker 7: underestimate your time if your time there to a comment
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Speaker 7: in London as I think he can add differentiate between
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Speaker 7: panel with a little bit of a pro guidance.
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Speaker 3: Well no I apparently ma'am you don't have any children
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Speaker 3: of your own because this is a common thing that
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Speaker 3: children do they mistake individuals thinking one is the other
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Speaker 3: millions of kids across this country right now think that
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Speaker 3: Osama bin Laden and Santa Claus look the same. And
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Speaker 3: I think that... Well, ma'am, I don't need advice from
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Speaker 3: a woman that doesn't have any kids of her own
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Speaker 3: to tell me how to raise my kid. Thank you
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Speaker 3: very much. I don't think so. Otherwise, you know that... Oh, really?
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Speaker 3: How old are they?
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Speaker 7: They're nine. They're twins.
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Speaker 3: They're nine? They're twins?
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Speaker 1: Uh-huh.
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Speaker 3: Where were they born?
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Speaker 2: In Tampa.
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Speaker 3: And how many days apart? How many days apart? They
25:33
Speaker 3: were born on the same day. Just checking. Just trying
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Speaker 3: to catch you. Oh, well, I was there. Let me
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Speaker 3: ask you a question. Do they look the same? Yes.
25:43
Speaker 3: Then they are twins.
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Speaker 2: Yes, that's what she said. They're twins.
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Speaker 3: They are twins. All right, well, twins look the same.
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Speaker 3: All right, well, twins often look the same.
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Speaker 2: They look the same. They look the same. Right, okay.
25:53
Speaker 2: Here is Angel on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 1: Hello.
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Speaker 2: Angel, hello. Go ahead. Angel, you there?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I am.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, ma'am.
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Speaker 3: I'm calling because I would like to tell Mr. Santos...
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Speaker 3: that he is doing nothing but encouraging children to.
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Speaker 5: Do racial profiling.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly correct.
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Speaker 4: And the reason they have on that beard is because
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Speaker 4: it is a part of their Muslim faith.
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Speaker 3: And when he is telling children that a beard.
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Speaker 5: Represents a terrorist, all that does is encourage racial.
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Speaker 3: Well, then how come the people of Afghanistan are shaving
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Speaker 3: their beard off? Why are they shaving their beard off now? Well,
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Speaker 3: I can tell you, Angel, that the... They're shaving their
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Speaker 3: beard off in Afghanistan, ma'am, because they don't like the
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Speaker 3: beard in Afghanistan because it represents.
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Speaker 5: That's right, that's right.
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Speaker 3: The beard is something... Well... So if the Afghanistanis don't
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Speaker 3: want to wear no beard... How can we make Santa
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Speaker 3: Claus wear one? So what does that have to do
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Speaker 3: with Santa Claus?
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Speaker 5: You just sound totally ignorant.
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Speaker 3: What's it got to do with Santa Claus? You're sitting
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Speaker 3: up here profiling, racial profiling, encouraging children to raise their profile,
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Speaker 3: and that is so ignorant. Well, I think if Santa Claus...
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Speaker 3: All you're doing is encouraging people. I think we have
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Speaker 3: a right to know if Santa Claus is a Muslim.
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Speaker 3: So if a child is a person with a beard,
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Speaker 3: they're going to say, oh, that's a terrorist or a killer?
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Speaker 3: In other words, we don't have a right to know
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Speaker 3: if Santa Claus is Muslim. Is that it?
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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, what?
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Speaker 3: We don't have the right to know if Santa Claus
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Speaker 3: is Muslim?
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Speaker 5: Look, you're not even making any sense.
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Speaker 3: You're telling me what's your thing. What I am saying
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Speaker 3: is that you are encouraging children to racial profile over
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Speaker 3: a beard. I'll tell you, I bet you Mrs. Claus
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Speaker 5: No, I don't think so. You need to learn a
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Speaker 5: little bit more about Islamic law and stuff in Kashmir.
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Speaker 3: I'm very well read. And why they grow that fear.
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Speaker 3: I went on the Internet. You need to come on
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Speaker 3: the radio and talk.
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Speaker 4: But until then, you need to just shut up and
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Speaker 4: become more educated.
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Speaker 3: About the facts. I went on the Internet. I found out.
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Speaker 3: Are the citizens of Jewelry Police?
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Speaker 2: What?
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Speaker 3: What'd you call me?
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Speaker 1: Skill and courage have enforced and preserved our state law.
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Speaker 3: Santa Claus believes in Allah. Sure.
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