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Feminist Movie Wednesday: Bridget Jones's Diary · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha, and welcome to stephone
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Speaker 1: never told your protection of iHeart Radio, And welcome to
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Speaker 1: is it Wednesday? Is today? Remember okay before I say Friday,
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Speaker 1: but you may be listening on a Friday. So hey,
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Speaker 1: but it's the faminest movie day. Put in whatever you want,
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Speaker 1: and today we are taking it all the way back
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Speaker 1: to two thousand one. Yes, y'all, I was in college
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Speaker 1: ready to roam the streets. I don't know, Actually I wasn't.
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Speaker 1: I wasn't like that, but ready to be independent and
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Speaker 1: find my purpose and uh yeah, also finding all the
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Speaker 1: rom com because that was like the age of rom
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Speaker 1: coms I think from to two thousand five. So many
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Speaker 1: do you remember those? Uh well, you definitely watched to
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Speaker 1: be it was like not my not my wheelhouse, as
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Speaker 1: we say when we're not being cool. But um so,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't watch them, but I do
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Speaker 1: recall like a lot of like Sandra Bullock movies romance
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Speaker 1: coming out at that time. There was a Sandra Bullock
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Speaker 1: and Keanu Reeves. It wasn't a wrong com, but it
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Speaker 1: was a romantic drama. No, no, there was later was
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Speaker 1: if a different one? I guess I could be a
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Speaker 1: wrong com adventure wrong. Um and yes, also taking about
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Speaker 1: two thousand one, this movie, for what I had just found,
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Speaker 1: is now apparently a part of the English pop culture.
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Speaker 1: Like I did not know that. I didn't know that big.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's great, it's a popular movie. I
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Speaker 1: just didn't think it was like a definition of something,
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Speaker 1: of a cultural something, but apparently had a lot of impact. Uh.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, this is a point to several articles. And
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Speaker 1: it was written last year because of the twenty anniversary.
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Speaker 1: Of course we're always like a year behind somehow that
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Speaker 1: they had the twentieth anniversary of the celebration of the
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Speaker 1: iconic film Bridget Jones Diary. So I don't know. I
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Speaker 1: love this movie. I was excited when I was like, oh,
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Speaker 1: let's do something fun. We're gonna do a holiday film.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever seen Bridget Jones Diary? And You're like, no,
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Speaker 1: here we go And I'm sorry at a time, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: And I didn't know at the time, as I actually
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Speaker 1: I didn't know even now until I was researching. This
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Speaker 1: was one of the first movies that put Zellweger in
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Speaker 1: the runnings for an Academy Award for Best actress. She
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Speaker 1: was actually nominated for this role, and I was very surprised. Um,
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Speaker 1: I am one of those who did not take this seriously.
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Speaker 1: But they should be. They should be. If they're done well,
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Speaker 1: they should be taken seriously. But you know, as in fact,
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Speaker 1: the movie was nominated for many other awards like the
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Speaker 1: Bath Dust Golden Globes. Um they I think, and even
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Speaker 1: for MTV's Best Kiss Award between Zel and Colin Firth. Um. Yes, yes.
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Speaker 1: The movie was even listed by the American Film Institute
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Speaker 1: or the a f I, which a lot of people follow,
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Speaker 1: uh top ten movies in two thousand and eight, and
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Speaker 1: it was for the romantic comedy genre. But us still
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Speaker 1: was like, wow, that really hit. Apparently, and with the
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Speaker 1: success of the first movie, two more sequels came out,
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Speaker 1: including Bridget Jones, Edge of Reason and Bridget Jones Baby.
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Speaker 1: So I only watched Edge of Reason and it was interesting. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll describe the scene to you when we at the end,
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Speaker 1: because it's it's quite funny. But the way that the
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Speaker 1: numbers the sequel, the second one comes starts and opens
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Speaker 1: this kind of like what are right? So yes, and
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Speaker 1: apparently there's talks of a fourth edition possibly happening at
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Speaker 1: the leave Helen Fielding, who is the author of the
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Speaker 1: novel Ridget Jones's Diary. Um, and she is currently writing
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Speaker 1: the script for it or working on the script for it.
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Speaker 1: I think I saw correctly. Um. Also, I really found
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Speaker 1: it funny because when you read the interviews, one of
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Speaker 1: the things that I remember is the director Sharon Maguire
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Speaker 1: was talking about the controversy of hiring an American actress,
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Speaker 1: Renae Selager to play this role, knowing that this was
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Speaker 1: such an important role and comparing and after the fact
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Speaker 1: that she was hired. There was this conversation with like, well,
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Speaker 1: I guess America is getting us back for Vivian Lee's
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Speaker 1: role in Gone with a Win, comparing the two characters,
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Speaker 1: and I was like, don't get me wrong, Gone with
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Speaker 1: the Win is not as problematic as hell, but the
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Speaker 1: iconic movie Gone It seemed odd. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I mean I I thought about that, and I think
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Speaker 1: that I think the bigger issue here because there's so
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Speaker 1: many British actors that do like big American roles in
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Speaker 1: Australian action. Continued, I think the bigger issue here is,
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Speaker 1: as you said, it sounds like Bridget Jones in the
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Speaker 1: U K's like, like, you know, you've got Paddington Bear
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Speaker 1: and Bridget Jones like a big iconic UK character. Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe you're right that's what it is, because I didn't
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Speaker 1: realize it was that big of a character for yeah,
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Speaker 1: maybe I mean for our UK listeners. Is it as
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Speaker 1: big of a deal as we're reading or are so
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Speaker 1: outdated that you're like, why are you talking about this?
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Speaker 1: We need to know though, inquiring minds need to know. Okay.
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Speaker 1: So the movie was based on the novel written by
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Speaker 1: Helen Fielding Bridget Jones's diary, who helped write the screenplay
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Speaker 1: for the actual movie. The book is an interpretation of
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Speaker 1: Jane Austen's Pride and Prejudice, and in it we see
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Speaker 1: many nas to this, such as the publishing house being
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Speaker 1: named pember Lee Press. Yes, the name of the house
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Speaker 1: and Pride and Prejudice. The character Mark Darcy, obviously like
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Speaker 1: Darcy of Pride and Prejudice, even has some cameos if
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Speaker 1: you're watching closely of actors from the BBC original that
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Speaker 1: I love that. I'm not gonna ever make you watch,
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Speaker 1: but I love um, like like the character Bingley he's
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Speaker 1: like he's in it for a snippet. Um. And of
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Speaker 1: course it also stars Colin Firth as Darcy, who was
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Speaker 1: Darcy and the actual BBC classic, and it kind of
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Speaker 1: was like his iconic role. Uh. It was quite funny.
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Speaker 1: And when they were writing the script, when they were
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Speaker 1: writing this book, they were writing the script for him
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Speaker 1: like that. It was always going to be him who
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Speaker 1: played this character. So there you go, there you go. Okay, well, yeah,
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Speaker 1: the film stars Rena's Lwagger as Bridget, Colin Firth is
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Speaker 1: Mark Darcy, Hugh Grant as Daniel Cleaver, Jim and Jones
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Speaker 1: as Bridget smother Pamela Jones and Jim Broadbent as her
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Speaker 1: father Colin Jones. Um, we also meet Bridgets dear ends
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Speaker 1: Jude played by Shirley Henderson, Tom played by James Callis,
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Speaker 1: and Sharon A Ka Shazer played by Sally Phillips. It's
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Speaker 1: directed by as you said, Sharon McGuire right. Also, about
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Speaker 1: three of those people were in um, Harry Potter. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: what you're talking about that these British movies have kind
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Speaker 1: of a small circle of actors to show up all
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Speaker 1: the time. And I know that was a joke with
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Speaker 1: Harry Potter, where British actors who hadn't been in it
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Speaker 1: were like, well when what am I just? Why have
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Speaker 1: I not been in it? Like everyone's been in literally
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Speaker 1: all of them been in there. How was I not there? Exactly? Um? Okay,
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Speaker 1: so let us get into the plot. So we meet
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Speaker 1: Bridget on a cold New Year's Day, arriving at her
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Speaker 1: parents home for a New Year's party, and as per usual,
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Speaker 1: her mother is trying to fix her up with another
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Speaker 1: eligible bachelor UM, who typically turns out to not be
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Speaker 1: so great. Already, in her festive jumper her mother picked
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Speaker 1: out for her, she meets an l double man, Mark Darcy.
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Speaker 1: Not so surprisingly, Bridget is an awkward, rambling mess, and
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Speaker 1: after a shaky introduction with Mark, we hear him telling
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Speaker 1: his mother that he doesn't want to be set up, saying, mother,
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Speaker 1: I do not need a blind date, particularly not with
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Speaker 1: some verbally incontinent spinster who drinks like a fish, smokes
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Speaker 1: like a chimney, and dresses like her mother. Um. And
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Speaker 1: it was then Bridget decided she would turn her life around,
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Speaker 1: which for her included resolutions to start a diary, stop
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Speaker 1: drinking so much, lose twenty pounds and get a sensible boyfriend.
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Speaker 1: Sensible boyfriend of course. Uh. Cut to meeting Bridget's boss,
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Speaker 1: Daniel Cleaver. She also has an embarrassing interaction with him
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Speaker 1: and tries to think of a recovery while out with
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Speaker 1: her best friends the following day. Not sure she would
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Speaker 1: be fired or not, she starts say concerning I say,
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Speaker 1: flirtation with Clever about her clothing at work. Uh. Not
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Speaker 1: good start of the new year, as she says. But
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Speaker 1: the flirting works and soon Daniel asks for a date,
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Speaker 1: at which time she leaves him hanging, trying to be
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Speaker 1: real cool about this, like we'll see, we'll see, won't
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Speaker 1: we um. At a work event, a book launch, Bridget
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Speaker 1: does her bust to schmoos and try to look posh
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Speaker 1: and polished for the event, where Darcy happens to be
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Speaker 1: there with his coworker and Natasha. Soon we find out
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Speaker 1: that Darcy Cleaver have a tense relationship and passed, but
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Speaker 1: we're not sure why yet. During the event, Bridget gets
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Speaker 1: up to introduce her boss, Mr fitz Herbert, or as
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Speaker 1: she calls him, Mr tits pervert Um, only to shout
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Speaker 1: awkwardly and once again embarrass herself. After she sits in
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Speaker 1: the corner trying to hide from the embarrassment. She has
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Speaker 1: soon rescued by Daniel and leaves together for dinner. There,
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Speaker 1: she learns that Daniel market or college mates, but according
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Speaker 1: to Daniel, Mark slept with his fiancee, breaking Daniel's hart
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Speaker 1: and their friendship. At the end of the date, she
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Speaker 1: tries to play cool and they end up going home
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Speaker 1: together in start hilarious scene about her stomach holding in underwear. Uh.
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Speaker 1: Soon Bridget gets caught up in this whirlwind romance that
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Speaker 1: she hopes will be something more um, and she and
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Speaker 1: Daniel drive off for a mini holiday that ends up
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Speaker 1: with a very inappropriate yearly party thrown by her hands.
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Speaker 1: The uncle but not Uncle Jeffrey are called the Tarts
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Speaker 1: and Vicar Party, and as they check into their lovely hotel,
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Speaker 1: they run into who else, Darcy and Natasha or yes
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Speaker 1: of course going to the party too, and Yes. After
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Speaker 1: a beautiful day together, Daniel decides he can't go to
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Speaker 1: the party because he has too much work to do,
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Speaker 1: so he sends Bridget alone, dressed as a playboy bunny.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, the theme has been thrown out the window
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Speaker 1: and most of the people are dressed in in lovely
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Speaker 1: summer retire while she in a hand full of people
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Speaker 1: who didn't get the notification of the changes sit around
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Speaker 1: in silly costumes. Soon once a get embarrassed and tired,
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Speaker 1: she returns to Daniels, who she suspects of cheating, and
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Speaker 1: she is correct as there is a naked American woman
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Speaker 1: hiding in her bathroom right and start main comment from
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Speaker 1: the girl. After going through all the heartbreak things like
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Speaker 1: drinking too much loudly singing Shaka Khan, she pulls herself together,
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Speaker 1: finds a new job and abruptly quits and tells Daniel
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Speaker 1: off fun scene. She soon starts her new job at
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Speaker 1: a local TV station where she becomes a reporter. Apparently
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Speaker 1: she on day one of her job flashes her entire
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Speaker 1: country with her booty oh yeah, booty shas, which is
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Speaker 1: followed by a very painful dinner with all couples um.
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Speaker 1: There she's questioned as if she was an alien of
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Speaker 1: why women were all single, being referred to as fine
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Speaker 1: specimen yes, And of course at the table it is
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Speaker 1: Mark Darcy and what his partner business partner Natasha. He
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Speaker 1: just pops up everywhere he does. After a long exhausting time,
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Speaker 1: and she finally leaves, but it is followed by Mark,
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Speaker 1: who comes to Professor's feelings to her, saying he likes
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Speaker 1: her just the way. She is shocked and surprised. She
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Speaker 1: relays all this to the friends, who are equally surprised. Yep. Um. Later,
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Speaker 1: she gets another chance to report on a very important
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Speaker 1: current event, but once again almost close it, but this
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Speaker 1: time is rescued by Mark, who just happens to be
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Speaker 1: the barrister on the case and helps Bridget get an
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Speaker 1: exclusive interview, making her a star. And to celebrate this victory,
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Speaker 1: she goes home to prepare a birthday fest. Um and
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Speaker 1: Mark Darcy arrives to congratulate her on her success and
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Speaker 1: stays to help her prep for her dinner. Um. Spoiler alert,
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Speaker 1: it's not good. Bridget cannot cook and because this is
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Speaker 1: a round com ter Daniel Cleaver asking Bridget back. But
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Speaker 1: of course this gets into one of the most ridiculous
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Speaker 1: fight scenes in the movies, at which time Mark leaves
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Speaker 1: after being chastised by Bridget, who also rejects Daniel. Right. Um,
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Speaker 1: and if you do read any of the articles, the
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Speaker 1: fight was not coordinated. I think the initial punches were coordinated,
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Speaker 1: and then after that they're like, just go at it.
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Speaker 1: And according to Hugh Grant and Colin Firth, it literally
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we we fought like englishman, middle class
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Speaker 1: englishman knowing not we don't know how to fight. But
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Speaker 1: it was ridiculous and we made sure to be as
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Speaker 1: ridiculous as possible. While all of this is happening, her mother,
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Speaker 1: Bridget's mother, decides that she needs to leave her father
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Speaker 1: uh and starts an affair with a man with a
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Speaker 1: bad spray hand. Literally as the movie continues, he gainst
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Speaker 1: more orange um. But her mother soon comes back home
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Speaker 1: to her father, apologizing and but also letting the father
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Speaker 1: know that he took her for granted and that they
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Speaker 1: needed to work together in their relationships. So you know,
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Speaker 1: all of this is happening in the plot as well.
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Speaker 1: But back to Bridget, we see her being talked into
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Speaker 1: going to the Darcy's Mark's parents Ruby anniversary party after
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Speaker 1: finding out from her mother that it was actually Daniel
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Speaker 1: who had an affair with Mark's wife Um, and she
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Speaker 1: goes to this party, professes her love to Mark, gives
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Speaker 1: an awkward speech because she like does a like impulsive
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Speaker 1: in the middle of the crowd when she when it's
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Speaker 1: announced that he was going to move to the to
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Speaker 1: America with his partner. So she does this thing and
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Speaker 1: then she has to recover by giving a really awkward speech. Heartbroken,
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Speaker 1: Bridget returns home and is rescued by her friends and
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Speaker 1: they all decided to go to on a short trip
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Speaker 1: to Paris. But before she even locks her door, we
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Speaker 1: see Mark Darcy. He has come back for her, and
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Speaker 1: though they have a quick mix up about her diary
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Speaker 1: uh and what she wrote in it, which again had
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Speaker 1: a few unkind words about Mark Uh, it ends with
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Speaker 1: her chasing after him in the streets with no pants on,
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Speaker 1: Mark coming out of a store saying I bought you
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Speaker 1: a new diary so we can start fresh, and then
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Speaker 1: a kissing scene. M D A lot of hijas, a
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Speaker 1: lot of hijinks, and this is the comedy part, of course,
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Speaker 1: the comedy part. So let's talk about the things. I
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Speaker 1: think we did pretty well in talking about all of it.
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Speaker 1: But first let's talk go out the bed of the movie.
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Speaker 1: We can't we can't ignore that this really did not
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Speaker 1: age well. I still love it, I still watch it,
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Speaker 1: I will continue to watch it probably, but yeah, the
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Speaker 1: things that you see. There's a lot of like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that really shouldn't be there. And even the director Sharon
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Speaker 1: McGuire said the fact that the movie could not have
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Speaker 1: been made during this time as it is with movements
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Speaker 1: like Me to the subject of workplace harassment and sexual misconduct, uh,
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Speaker 1: the movie would have been in poor taste as In fact,
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Speaker 1: McGuire stated she felt it was a good thing. It
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Speaker 1: couldn't be made now, like understanding that that was a problem,
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Speaker 1: and then we joke about it. We're actually taking things
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Speaker 1: seriously because even the scenes with like uncle Jeffrey trying
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Speaker 1: to kiss her and touch on her um like it
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Speaker 1: was that makes it awkward, but we we make jokes,
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Speaker 1: but knowing this is not this is not good. So
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Speaker 1: like that conversation of this type level harassment, the first
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Speaker 1: thing he sends her as an email talking about her
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Speaker 1: scart being short, um and then you know pretty much
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Speaker 1: all of that we all know bad. Yeah, it is
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Speaker 1: strange sometimes to watch these movies from before Me two
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Speaker 1: and how how much has changed where you're just because
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Speaker 1: we would watched that and we kind of be like,
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Speaker 1: you know, maybe cringe, ger o, that's so gross, or
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Speaker 1: maybe laugh, like but it was kind of like, yeah, up,
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Speaker 1: um that's how it is. So yeah, it was. It
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Speaker 1: was interesting to see that that dynamic played out and
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Speaker 1: how it has evolved. Well, I think it's interesting because, um,
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Speaker 1: when you think about movies like nine to five, I
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Speaker 1: don't think I've ever watched it in its entirety. I
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Speaker 1: think I've seen it play here and there. You know,
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Speaker 1: TVs would have been on every now and again. Um,
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Speaker 1: when I watched the entirety, I was like, oh my god,
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Speaker 1: Like the boss is trying to actively get hurt have
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Speaker 1: sex with him, and that's the entirety of the Uh
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Speaker 1: this Dolly Parton's character, like entirety of back and forth
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Speaker 1: and everybody in the office things they are having an affair,
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Speaker 1: which is not true. But I was like, this is
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Speaker 1: really bad. How would you redo this? Because that's like
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Speaker 1: and then they that's why they tie him up, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and do all these things to them to teach him
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Speaker 1: a lesson. But I'm like, oh my god, what is this?
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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's one of those that couldn't be
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Speaker 1: a common anymore. I think that's what many people have
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Speaker 1: talked about, like it would no longer, it can no
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Speaker 1: longer be a comedy, it would have to be a
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Speaker 1: different way. Um, but yeah, like seeing those movies, which
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Speaker 1: at one point in time, and I think people still
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Speaker 1: think of it as empowering because they did come up
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Speaker 1: on top and they were able to get what they
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Speaker 1: deserve the promotions or whatever. But it's still like, oh
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Speaker 1: damn right, I think you're I think that's absolutely correct.
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Speaker 1: Where it's like you can't play that for comedy anymore,
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Speaker 1: or if you do, you were in bad taste. Like
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Speaker 1: it doesn't work because we're just so aware of it.
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Speaker 1: And I mean, like even things that can be a
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Speaker 1: bit more complicated, nuanced, like dating your boss, it's still
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Speaker 1: like it takes me aback when I see it, and
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Speaker 1: there's no kind of question about it, our conversation about it,
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Speaker 1: because I'm immediately like, oh no, yeah, I mean this
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Speaker 1: is we're not gonna talk too much. But like, there
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Speaker 1: there was that whole incident with a Good Morning America, Uh,
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Speaker 1: the two co hosts having an affair and splash day everywhere,
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, Okay, that's bad enough, and and that's
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Speaker 1: adult business. We don't really need to know this. But
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Speaker 1: it comes out later that he has had an affairs
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Speaker 1: with several women in the workplace and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 1: that's a whole other conversation about what that looks like
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Speaker 1: and the power play here and all of that. That
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Speaker 1: is kind of like, oh, and yeah, that can't be
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Speaker 1: a comedy everybody. First it was like this is just
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Speaker 1: growing people's business and accepting it, and then it goes
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Speaker 1: into a bigger like, oh, no, there's something, there's something
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Speaker 1: here that's not that's a problem. I mean, I think
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Speaker 1: it's not a bad thing that we're so aware because
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Speaker 1: we need to be. That's the things that these accusations
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Speaker 1: are now being taken seriously as back then people would
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Speaker 1: just laugh it off. Um, so I think it's good
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Speaker 1: to see. Of course. The other there are several things.
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Speaker 1: But the other big one is that fat shaming. Like
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Speaker 1: I remember watching this being a chunky girl and seeing
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Speaker 1: she weighed a hundred thirty nine thirty six I don't
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Speaker 1: even know, and her saying that that was fat and
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Speaker 1: then she needs to lose twenty pounds of like how
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Speaker 1: to be fair, Zellwegger as actually like a hundred and seven.
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Speaker 1: I think she talked about it, let that she's never
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Speaker 1: been that heavy before, She's never eaten that much before
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Speaker 1: talking about it, and she was like, you know, it's
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Speaker 1: not there's nothing wrong with this body. It's just it's
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Speaker 1: her body, right, but the character's body, but it's not me.
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Speaker 1: And I was like what And she she's tiny, like
20:22
Speaker 1: Jay McGuire. That was her first movie that I saw
20:24
Speaker 1: her in. She wasn't that real thin to me. She
20:27
Speaker 1: was thin, don't get me wrong. So in seeing her
20:30
Speaker 1: Bridget Jone's diary, she looked like a normal person. She wasn't.
20:32
Speaker 1: There was like there wasn't even a cellulite on her,
20:35
Speaker 1: like when you looked at her, and I was I
20:37
Speaker 1: remember the shame I felt just watching that scene. I
20:41
Speaker 1: was like, m m okay, I'm fair. Yeah. I So
20:50
Speaker 1: I was in high school and this came out and
20:53
Speaker 1: I I didn't see it until like a week ago,
20:57
Speaker 1: but I that's what I knew about. It was like
20:59
Speaker 1: she wasp was to be fat and she's she's the
21:03
Speaker 1: scene where she's on the you know, the bike exercise
21:05
Speaker 1: bike and is trying to lose weight. And I remember
21:08
Speaker 1: just like absorbing that too, of like oh, because it
21:12
Speaker 1: was it's painted as you know, this problem she's trying
21:14
Speaker 1: to fix. Is this like things she's trying to get
21:17
Speaker 1: rid of. And I actually noticed because I think we're
21:20
Speaker 1: going to talk about this in an upcoming episode, but
21:23
Speaker 1: I kind of did a I want to expand my
21:25
Speaker 1: holiday movie palette, uh this year, So I watched some
21:29
Speaker 1: of Savantha's picks. I actually don't remember if she suggested
21:33
Speaker 1: this one, but I hadn't seen it forever Love Actually Um,
21:36
Speaker 1: which is British as well, but there was so much
21:39
Speaker 1: fat shaming in it. I was like day, but it
21:44
Speaker 1: was so funny. Is the concept that I found interesting.
21:47
Speaker 1: And we're not talking about love actually because yeah, like
21:50
Speaker 1: they talk about Natalie is a character in her having
21:54
Speaker 1: the high size of treat trunks and always and which
21:57
Speaker 1: is my biggest like insecurity, And I was like what.
22:01
Speaker 1: But I did love the fact that his her love interest,
22:05
Speaker 1: he Grants the character once again. I don't know how
22:08
Speaker 1: I got caught up in he Grant world, but I did,
22:13
Speaker 1: yes the universe because I don't even like him. I know,
22:16
Speaker 1: I said this before, You're gonna hear about this later.
22:18
Speaker 1: I think we talked about an upcoming episode, Like, I
22:21
Speaker 1: did not mean to pick all these movies. It just
22:23
Speaker 1: happened that he's in all of these romantic comedies during
22:26
Speaker 1: this time, he was one of the big names. Like
22:28
Speaker 1: he did not in Hill, he did four weddings. In
22:30
Speaker 1: the Funeral, he like, all of these are his like
22:33
Speaker 1: niche as in fact, he took this role because he's
22:36
Speaker 1: placed the nice guy all the time. So he wanted
22:39
Speaker 1: something closer to his personality, so being a cat and
22:42
Speaker 1: that's what he said. Character. But yeah, like, but I
22:47
Speaker 1: did appreciate in Love actually that he didn't even notice.
22:50
Speaker 1: He's like, what are you talking about? Like that was
22:52
Speaker 1: his firstst one. He was like what um. But then
22:55
Speaker 1: of course the ending where they are together, he calls
22:57
Speaker 1: her and he said, god, you wear a lot. I'm like,
23:00
Speaker 1: son of a what you're doing good? I mean, this
23:07
Speaker 1: is the level and this is where we are getting
23:09
Speaker 1: back to. I think the early two thousands, nineties, eighties
23:13
Speaker 1: were all about being super skinny, um and being super
23:17
Speaker 1: rail than that was the goal. That was always the goal.
23:21
Speaker 1: I think finally in the last ten years we came
23:23
Speaker 1: to hey, let's be open, let's be let's to be
23:27
Speaker 1: honest about the reality of women's bodies, of people's bodies
23:30
Speaker 1: and what it takes to do what you think is
23:33
Speaker 1: the standard Channing Tatum actually talked about his process because
23:37
Speaker 1: he had to get ready for magic mic or something,
23:39
Speaker 1: and he's like, I hate it. This is hurting my body.
23:42
Speaker 1: He talked about how constantly he has to work out
23:45
Speaker 1: four hours, he can't eat things, he has to eat
23:47
Speaker 1: certain things, and he's like, it is so miserable. If
23:49
Speaker 1: it wasn't my job, there's no way in hell I
23:52
Speaker 1: would have this body. Like. That's what he talked about,
23:54
Speaker 1: And that's the conversation we need to know. It is
23:56
Speaker 1: like what we see on the screens and the four models,
23:58
Speaker 1: that's their job, um, but they are also putting themselves
24:02
Speaker 1: through painstaking processes to get there as well, and probably
24:07
Speaker 1: unhealthy processes to get there as well. And I think
24:10
Speaker 1: that's a conversation that didn't happen until like ten fifteen
24:14
Speaker 1: years later. I'm seeing a pattern and I'm not the
24:17
Speaker 1: only one that's slowly going back to that, and it's
24:20
Speaker 1: getting really really concerning. I'm like, no, we don't need
24:22
Speaker 1: why why do we need to go back to that?
24:24
Speaker 1: Stoff stop it. Yeah, I think especially for young people,
24:31
Speaker 1: it's so damaging because when you I remember being a
24:34
Speaker 1: kid and when you don't have like the knowledge of
24:38
Speaker 1: that of like, oh, of course they have to work
24:40
Speaker 1: out and they get paid to do this and all
24:42
Speaker 1: this stuff. All you know is you're seeing this, this
24:44
Speaker 1: is the idealized thing. Why can't I be that? And
24:46
Speaker 1: I remember so clearly. I know I've said it before
24:48
Speaker 1: on here, but I just remember it so clearly. One time,
24:50
Speaker 1: this model, super thin beautiful said, um, I don't get
24:56
Speaker 1: what the big deal is. I eat whatever I want
24:58
Speaker 1: and I never get fat, And so I was, why
25:01
Speaker 1: can't I do that? Right? So we're not getting the
25:03
Speaker 1: backsward just seeing this this and not getting all of
25:07
Speaker 1: the details. And I think when you're young, that's so
25:09
Speaker 1: damaging it is, And yeah, it's kind of like metabolism
25:12
Speaker 1: changes as you age. Just wait, that's the moment of
25:18
Speaker 1: like my witchiness of like just wait till you get
25:22
Speaker 1: like older. And like, I've never been skinny, so that's
25:25
Speaker 1: not that's the warring concept to me. I've never been
25:27
Speaker 1: skinny like that. And that's the problem is like this
25:30
Speaker 1: movie having someone like renee Zel Lugger come in playing
25:34
Speaker 1: this normal girl but being considering that to be fat.
25:38
Speaker 1: She never calls her for that. She never, like Elbow,
25:40
Speaker 1: never talks about that, but she does talk about the
25:42
Speaker 1: fact that she's like, you know, I'm naturally thin. No no no, no,
25:44
Speaker 1: no no, And I'm like, wow, it kind of feels
25:48
Speaker 1: like it blows you to see that being the character
25:50
Speaker 1: and iconic character and this is the person. At least
25:54
Speaker 1: she didn't dona fat suit like she did in the
25:56
Speaker 1: other movies. Thank you for that, I guess, But yeah,
26:00
Speaker 1: it was definitely it is definitely problematic. The whole conversation problematic.
26:04
Speaker 1: I think it's funny that they do talk about the
26:06
Speaker 1: links that people women are willing to go to to
26:08
Speaker 1: try to be skinny, and I think that's a conversation
26:11
Speaker 1: that we need to have, um, including the sucking and
26:14
Speaker 1: tummy underwear. I have those, those banks, I have them.
26:18
Speaker 1: They hurt, they do hurt. Still angry about those things.
26:24
Speaker 1: But yeah, so we have to acknowledge that this is
26:26
Speaker 1: a problematic movie. I will always be honest, but I
26:29
Speaker 1: still love it. I still love it for what it was. Um,
26:31
Speaker 1: So we'udn't get into the themes that is both good
26:34
Speaker 1: and bad, and I think that's a little more on
26:36
Speaker 1: content with what they are doing, including all the themes
26:40
Speaker 1: of relationships. And this includes uh, of course, true love,
26:45
Speaker 1: the finding of true love, which is what rom coms are. Yeah. Interesting,
26:52
Speaker 1: I did have oh my gosh, this is so funny
26:55
Speaker 1: now that I've watched all your movies. I did have
26:57
Speaker 1: a moment. Like a lot of these rom coms, if
26:59
Speaker 1: you change them music, it's a horror movie. It turned quickly,
27:06
Speaker 1: it could the music really does it? Does do it? Um?
27:10
Speaker 1: But yeah, you've gotta I got you. This is the classic.
27:13
Speaker 1: I've talked about this and I don't have a lot
27:14
Speaker 1: of experience with romance, but there's always this kind of
27:16
Speaker 1: like one woman, two men in sense, the triangle, you've
27:21
Speaker 1: got to have it, the misunderstandings, the back and forth,
27:26
Speaker 1: what do I really want? Um. I did think it
27:30
Speaker 1: was interesting because, as you know, I've been talking a
27:32
Speaker 1: lot about the Mandalorian lately. I did think it's interesting
27:36
Speaker 1: they have their fight scene because it's kind of the
27:38
Speaker 1: same thing I'm talking about in a much nerdier sense,
27:40
Speaker 1: where you're you're expressing your love, your romantic love via
27:44
Speaker 1: fist fight. But also they were kind of just angry
27:48
Speaker 1: with each other, right, But it was just kind of
27:49
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, there it is, we did it.
27:57
Speaker 1: And then I also found this interesting because I think
27:59
Speaker 1: a lot of women and do this, and even me,
28:02
Speaker 1: I did it and I'm not even straight, um, But
28:05
Speaker 1: the whole idea of like I'm going to get it
28:07
Speaker 1: together to get a man, it was very interesting and
28:10
Speaker 1: I think, like I've had this discussion with a good
28:13
Speaker 1: friend of mine before, where I do think there's a
28:15
Speaker 1: difference between you can want to get healthier. You can
28:20
Speaker 1: want to for yourself drink less, smoke less, exercise more
28:25
Speaker 1: perfectly healthy. As we've said so many times on this show,
28:27
Speaker 1: it's really hard to divorce that from all of the
28:32
Speaker 1: societal baggage that we've just grown up in um and
28:36
Speaker 1: soaked in um. But the idea of doing it for
28:40
Speaker 1: a man, I think is just never it's never gonna
28:44
Speaker 1: Like that means you're doing the thing that people did
28:47
Speaker 1: in the fifties where you like wake up at four am. Well,
28:49
Speaker 1: people are doing it now. We talked about that too.
28:51
Speaker 1: Or you're doing the makeup and all the stuff that
28:52
Speaker 1: they see you in all in the one state, Like
28:54
Speaker 1: it just sounds kind of miserable. So I do think
28:56
Speaker 1: that there's a double It can be a healthy thing,
29:00
Speaker 1: but if you're only doing it for this person and
29:02
Speaker 1: then you get this person, well happens like five years
29:05
Speaker 1: down the road, and you're like, I'm tired, right, I
29:09
Speaker 1: mean definitely, Uh. And her whole thing is getting a man,
29:13
Speaker 1: getting a man, and that's kind of that conversation, like
29:16
Speaker 1: that's tiring, it is, And like you said, it's a
29:19
Speaker 1: wrong car. I don't think there's necessarily anything wrong really,
29:21
Speaker 1: I just think it's something worth like recognize. Right, Oh yeah, absolutely,
29:26
Speaker 1: because it does shape what you think you're supposed to want.
29:28
Speaker 1: And we've talked about that was normal and was not,
29:30
Speaker 1: and this made it seem like this is normal to
29:32
Speaker 1: get yourself together for your future husband, and that's that's
29:35
Speaker 1: the goal. Uh. And then the next goal is children,
29:38
Speaker 1: which is actually the way this movie, these movies seem
29:41
Speaker 1: to go. So there was another relationship that I really
29:43
Speaker 1: loved between the father, her father, and her mother because
29:46
Speaker 1: I don't you don't see it often, um where they
29:50
Speaker 1: show older couples as actual humans with like growing into
29:56
Speaker 1: their own relationships. I guess there's been a few more
29:59
Speaker 1: that's done that better, but actually seeing yeah, this is
30:02
Speaker 1: what marriage can look like. This is what it can
30:04
Speaker 1: get down to, and it can it can be resolved
30:07
Speaker 1: and it's beautiful, but let's talk about the realities. And
30:10
Speaker 1: then one of the reality is maybe you are being
30:12
Speaker 1: taken for granted, maybe you know, and and being seen
30:16
Speaker 1: as silly and so therefore you're you're done and trying
30:18
Speaker 1: to make up for her own life. And showing again
30:21
Speaker 1: showing an older woman being able to move on if
30:23
Speaker 1: she wanted to. That's unique to itself. Yeah, yeah, I
30:29
Speaker 1: did think that was interesting because it's not like it
30:31
Speaker 1: was I mean, it was played for comedy as it's
30:35
Speaker 1: a wrong com but it's not like it was ever
30:37
Speaker 1: saying necessarily that either of them were a bad person
30:43
Speaker 1: or we're in the wrong. But it was much more like, yeah,
30:47
Speaker 1: they're they've been together for a while and these issues
30:49
Speaker 1: pop up and he's taking her for granted, she wants
30:54
Speaker 1: to move on, but you can repair it. Like, I
30:57
Speaker 1: did think that was that was interesting because I really
31:01
Speaker 1: don't enjoy unless it's sound very well, the kind of
31:05
Speaker 1: like blame game of that stuff. Certainly, sometimes we're like, yeah,
31:11
Speaker 1: that person is in their own leaving. I said, hey,
31:13
Speaker 1: I'm see what I did. Um, But I mean, like
31:18
Speaker 1: in a situation like this, I don't like when I
31:20
Speaker 1: feel like a lot of times in these kind of movies,
31:22
Speaker 1: it would be like she's bad, she left, she gave up,
31:25
Speaker 1: um x y Z didn't really didn't do that. I mean,
31:28
Speaker 1: definitely felt like it was pitted a little bit, but
31:30
Speaker 1: I think that you see the truth of it all.
31:33
Speaker 1: And that's even from what I first watched a younger me.
31:36
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, he did these things, and he's
31:41
Speaker 1: trying to work on it in a really bad possible
31:43
Speaker 1: way because Bridge is giving him bad advice and honestly,
31:45
Speaker 1: but like they come back together and and have a
31:48
Speaker 1: conversation and work it out and they're looking like they're
31:51
Speaker 1: trying to repair that relationship. And I was like, that's nice.
31:54
Speaker 1: And also they'll be like seeing her mom being a
31:57
Speaker 1: sexual being and I was like there you go, oh,
31:58
Speaker 1: people like that's actually reality, let's see that and not
32:03
Speaker 1: being kind of a joke but you know, not complete joke.
32:05
Speaker 1: But you know, so I thought that was pretty cool.
32:09
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, you have the family dynamics between
32:11
Speaker 1: mother and daughter and father and daughter. Um. This definitely
32:14
Speaker 1: felt like it played on the being a daddy's girl
32:17
Speaker 1: mm hmmm type of thing. Yeah, for sure. I mean
32:22
Speaker 1: that was interesting to see too because it it was cool.
32:25
Speaker 1: It was cool to see their relationship and how complicated
32:28
Speaker 1: it could be, but how it felt very loving. Um,
32:31
Speaker 1: but those issues of like the mom always being like, well,
32:34
Speaker 1: let's set you up, like you can't be signal, like
32:36
Speaker 1: all of those things that we've seen before. But yeah,
32:38
Speaker 1: I would say for sure it felt more like kind
32:42
Speaker 1: of a daddy's girl. You know. They would get together
32:45
Speaker 1: and kind of make fun of the mom. Yes, mom
32:47
Speaker 1: was sounded ridiculous, but you know, it definitely had that
32:50
Speaker 1: film to be fair, that isn't pride and prejudice. So
32:53
Speaker 1: I think that's if you know, you know, like she
32:57
Speaker 1: Elizabeth has a very close relationship with the dad. They
32:59
Speaker 1: kind of make fun of other people. Our mom's over
33:02
Speaker 1: the top trying to get her married. Um. So it
33:05
Speaker 1: follows along and then we have, of course the friends,
33:07
Speaker 1: UM and I love I love the core friends. You know,
33:09
Speaker 1: this is exactly that level of like telling the people
33:13
Speaker 1: who are the most honest with you, they're gonna joke
33:17
Speaker 1: with you, but they're gonna pick you up too. Of course,
33:19
Speaker 1: there are some caricatures in that group. You had to
33:22
Speaker 1: represent all of the friends I guess in the world,
33:24
Speaker 1: like the loud obnoxious one, the mouseie whiney one, and
33:29
Speaker 1: then the flat point one. Yeah, I mean, what are
33:32
Speaker 1: you talking about? That's all the friends we have. What
33:38
Speaker 1: am I? No, don't don't worry about it. Okay, now
33:44
Speaker 1: I like that too. As we said in a recent episode,
33:48
Speaker 1: we've clearly shown our colors and that we love seeing
33:51
Speaker 1: supportive female friendships, but you know, being straight with you
33:55
Speaker 1: when you need to hear it, backing up, backing you
33:58
Speaker 1: up when you need it, and it was it was
34:00
Speaker 1: nice to see. And then coming to I feel like
34:17
Speaker 1: if we have relationships as a theme, singleness would be
34:21
Speaker 1: a theme in the obviously Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's
34:26
Speaker 1: the whole. As we said, that's kind of the whole.
34:29
Speaker 1: How the movie starts, it's like the driving force of
34:31
Speaker 1: it is she single, she wants to turn her life
34:35
Speaker 1: around to get a man, and it is commented on
34:39
Speaker 1: a lot, and like that scene where she's like the
34:41
Speaker 1: only single one in all these couples and they're like,
34:44
Speaker 1: and I've been that person. I was that person recently
34:46
Speaker 1: and people were looking at me that way. They were like,
34:49
Speaker 1: women still do this, and I was like, yes, what
34:54
Speaker 1: world are you right? I mean, it's quite funny. Because
34:59
Speaker 1: the beginning scenes we see her listening to Selin Dion,
35:04
Speaker 1: which sitting good vibes of Selin Dion with that reason diagnosis,
35:09
Speaker 1: uh slein Dion, and she's saying, you know, she's gonna
35:12
Speaker 1: be alone and in wolves dogs are gonna come and
35:15
Speaker 1: eat her because she's no one's going to discover her
35:17
Speaker 1: since she's single and alone. Of course that cut scene,
35:20
Speaker 1: of course, we've all talked about that. I'm like, I'm
35:22
Speaker 1: pretty sure he just will eat my face. But but yeah,
35:26
Speaker 1: like talking about that as part of the ultimate sadness,
35:32
Speaker 1: right yeah, sadness and kind of almost a recoiling like
35:38
Speaker 1: there's something's got to be wrong with you, right right, yeah.
35:42
Speaker 1: But so that's one of the things where I'm like,
35:44
Speaker 1: I get it. I get that pressure I gotta find
35:46
Speaker 1: a man. And that was something I was thinking about
35:48
Speaker 1: the other day because I am still single. As I said,
35:50
Speaker 1: I just had this conversation with a group of people
35:53
Speaker 1: who were looking at me like I was an animal
35:55
Speaker 1: in a zoo, like oh gosh, like bizarre. Um. But
36:01
Speaker 1: I have noticed, and I'm not complaining per se, but
36:06
Speaker 1: I've noticed as I've gotten older, I get a lot
36:09
Speaker 1: more of the like okay, we got to find you somebody.
36:13
Speaker 1: And I feel like a part of that is that
36:15
Speaker 1: dreaded and completely nonsense kind of idea of the biological clock,
36:19
Speaker 1: like I've aged down, it's too late, So she's not
36:22
Speaker 1: gonna get anybody. She couldn't get anybody when she was younger,
36:24
Speaker 1: she's not going to get anybody now. But that that
36:28
Speaker 1: was just something I kind of picked up on watching
36:30
Speaker 1: this because I I do still get that kind of attitude, clearly,
36:36
Speaker 1: but for me it's more much more into like, oh
36:40
Speaker 1: that's a shame, too bad, how how interesting v on?
36:44
Speaker 1: And I have to feel like a part of that
36:45
Speaker 1: is my age, but that could be wrong. Oh no, Um,
36:50
Speaker 1: maybe it's just I feel like maybe more of like
36:53
Speaker 1: we know that you're happy in your singleness, so yeah,
36:56
Speaker 1: that's not like that's not something that you need. So yeah,
37:00
Speaker 1: I mean there's certainly that too, But I think with
37:02
Speaker 1: the those are like my friends who know me, I'm
37:04
Speaker 1: talking about sort of the out Okay, okay, but I'll
37:09
Speaker 1: have a conversation with him, thank you. I will, because
37:13
Speaker 1: that's one of the themes, is like constantly being set
37:15
Speaker 1: up or constantly being reminded that they're single. Like she
37:18
Speaker 1: talks about that throughout um as in fact, she came
37:21
Speaker 1: up with how many people are getting divorced and that's
37:24
Speaker 1: one in three and this is what two thousand one?
37:26
Speaker 1: So um and then yeah, I think that was exactly
37:32
Speaker 1: part of that in her trying to discover herself in
37:36
Speaker 1: knowing that she would always be told as you you know,
37:39
Speaker 1: singleness is m hmm, not necessarily bad, but it's definitely
37:44
Speaker 1: not good, right as he calls her old girl. Yeah,
37:51
Speaker 1: I was thinking about this the other day. Um, and
37:54
Speaker 1: this isn't an issue for me because again I'm very
37:56
Speaker 1: happily single, and I know that for some people you
37:58
Speaker 1: are not. And then we absolutely to see you. But
38:00
Speaker 1: like you, you are reminded of it constantly, even if
38:04
Speaker 1: it's not your friends or people in your life. Even
38:07
Speaker 1: if it's it could be just like forms you have
38:09
Speaker 1: to fill out or uh like just groceries and thinking
38:14
Speaker 1: about things like that, Like it is a pretty a
38:17
Speaker 1: pretty constant in one way or another. Our society has
38:21
Speaker 1: very much like solidified the norm of by this age
38:27
Speaker 1: you are married, and it's it's really impossible to ignore
38:30
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, it really is. And obviously
38:32
Speaker 1: the holiday movies don't help because yeah, all the holiday
38:36
Speaker 1: movies finding that perfect mate or finding that perfect thing
38:39
Speaker 1: for your family, like it's all that's I think it's
38:43
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of any of the holiday movies
38:45
Speaker 1: if I see anything different, even the violent ones. Is
38:47
Speaker 1: protecting your family? Yeah, yeah, well listeners if you know one,
38:52
Speaker 1: if you know one that's more like just friends, single
38:55
Speaker 1: friends hanging out, let us just being there together, like
38:59
Speaker 1: I'm talking really think other than like sitcoms that have
39:04
Speaker 1: already like Office, that's different except in several of the
39:10
Speaker 1: episodes he's trying to impress the girl. He being Michael. Yeah. Yeah,
39:15
Speaker 1: well I think part of that is, um, the you know,
39:19
Speaker 1: I idealized theme of the holidays is togetherness, So it
39:23
Speaker 1: makes sense to me. But I would like to see
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Speaker 1: something that was much more at least a couple options
39:28
Speaker 1: of together a little different. Yeah, I think we could
39:33
Speaker 1: make a make a movie movies. Um yeah. And then yeah,
39:39
Speaker 1: of course, as we talked about the singleness versus the
39:42
Speaker 1: married couples, that's definitely a lot in the themes. I
39:45
Speaker 1: don't understand that, but funny enough, like that's the sex
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Speaker 1: in the City episode, the shoes, Single people don't they
39:51
Speaker 1: like they talk about the US versus them. This is
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Speaker 1: like that dinner was obviously very smug married couples, except
40:00
Speaker 1: for Natasha and Daniel, who were never pointed out by
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Speaker 1: the way when they're having this conversation, and I was
40:05
Speaker 1: like why, But yeah, Like that was definitely a big
40:09
Speaker 1: thing that I was like, Oh, this is why I
40:10
Speaker 1: can't be around married people. Yeah. And as we always
40:14
Speaker 1: joke when you have a sex in the same fact,
40:15
Speaker 1: I have a Siginfeld fact, there's a Siginfeld episode like
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Speaker 1: this too, um, and it's it was interesting in that
40:22
Speaker 1: I feel like the message of that episode. I think
40:25
Speaker 1: sex in the City, if I am remembering quickly too
40:27
Speaker 1: was kind of the you know, there's pros and cons
40:31
Speaker 1: to both, right, um, but the the kind of judgment
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Speaker 1: being well, you're not doing my life and my life
40:40
Speaker 1: is so good? Are you judging me from my life?
40:42
Speaker 1: Like I don't know, Like you're not fitting into what
40:44
Speaker 1: I think. And as we've talked about, there is this
40:48
Speaker 1: kind of unfortunate thing that can happen is when a
40:51
Speaker 1: friend gets married, you might you won't see them as much,
40:54
Speaker 1: and that makes sense because they got this other thing.
40:57
Speaker 1: But then it does kind of become a like we
40:59
Speaker 1: live in a bit of different worlds now. Um, so
41:05
Speaker 1: that's something else that I get. I don't think that
41:07
Speaker 1: it has to be a thing, but I do understand it.
41:11
Speaker 1: You get it? Yeah, I think. Um, I think that's
41:16
Speaker 1: definitely the conversation of like, I did have a friend
41:20
Speaker 1: who did not invite me to things because she was
41:24
Speaker 1: only doing a couple of things, even though I was
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Speaker 1: friends with all the couples, And I was like, what,
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Speaker 1: that's so weird. Why do you think I would be
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Speaker 1: uncomfortable to be around my friends? Right? I know there's
41:36
Speaker 1: kind of an inherent implication from a lot of things
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Speaker 1: like that that you must be sad and you'll be
41:43
Speaker 1: sadder if you see everyone else has a partner but you.
41:47
Speaker 1: So I won't invite you or is it going to
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Speaker 1: just be y'all making out the whole time? Yeah, that's awkward.
41:52
Speaker 1: I don't I don't want to be there for that.
41:54
Speaker 1: But if we're just chilling and eating dinner, I don't
41:56
Speaker 1: understand why I can't come that's supposed to me. I
42:01
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, And you know what, I think Another theme, uh,
42:05
Speaker 1: we didn't really talk about. We did talk about but
42:08
Speaker 1: I haven't put down. But like, is Bridget being the
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Speaker 1: normal girl is very awkward, like trying to I think
42:17
Speaker 1: that one of the big things and one of the
42:18
Speaker 1: big poles that she was supposed to be relatable for everyone,
42:21
Speaker 1: and not just the superstar uh movie star queen type
42:26
Speaker 1: of person, but a person who was relatable, who was
42:28
Speaker 1: a little thick, really wasn't um who does sess the
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Speaker 1: wrong things, like all of those moments trying to show
42:36
Speaker 1: her as normal mm hmm. Sometimes they try too hard,
42:40
Speaker 1: but I think that was one of the big parts
42:42
Speaker 1: of trying to make this movie more m digestible. I
42:47
Speaker 1: guess what I'm saying for for the audience. Yeah, yeah,
42:52
Speaker 1: it's supposed to endear you to her, and I think
42:54
Speaker 1: it does. Um, but it what it did crack me up?
42:57
Speaker 1: How many times like she like flashes somebody, or she's
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Speaker 1: running around in her underwear, she's in a playboy there's
43:05
Speaker 1: still all these None of it was like overtly sexual
43:07
Speaker 1: at all, but it was just kind of funny because
43:09
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, it's constant. It's constant that you're like, okay,
43:13
Speaker 1: but you know you get that clumsy girl. Yes, not
43:16
Speaker 1: the pixie man. A girl, but just like clumsy. Oh
43:20
Speaker 1: she's so clumsy, but she's so cute girl. So I
43:22
Speaker 1: think that's definitely a big part of this. And just
43:25
Speaker 1: so you know, Annie, because I told you I was
43:26
Speaker 1: gonna tell you. In the second one, the adventure is
43:29
Speaker 1: for them to get together, and they still bring Daniel
43:31
Speaker 1: Cleiber back into this, by the way, of course, And
43:34
Speaker 1: it also goes into that she goes to Thailand and
43:37
Speaker 1: if you are want to watch them, haven't I gets
43:40
Speaker 1: turned this off but it's no years. Uh, it's not
43:43
Speaker 1: that great. Um, but like she goes to Thailand, she
43:46
Speaker 1: gets caught smuggling drugs and she didn't do it, someone
43:48
Speaker 1: else put it in her bag. And then she goes
43:49
Speaker 1: to Thailand. Joe, Oh wow, that is a turn. So
43:56
Speaker 1: there you go and she's talking to the women and
44:00
Speaker 1: Risen and they're like she's talking about how she's mad
44:03
Speaker 1: at her boyfriend and she's like oh, and they're literally saying, oh,
44:06
Speaker 1: does he beat you like my husband beats me? Like no,
44:08
Speaker 1: I was like this, Scott really yeah. So yeah, that's
44:13
Speaker 1: that's the second one. The third one I've never watched,
44:15
Speaker 1: but I guess since the second one was about marriage,
44:17
Speaker 1: Parson was, you know, finding a relationship seconds about marriage.
44:20
Speaker 1: The third one is about a baby, Bridgie Jones's baby,
44:24
Speaker 1: So I'm not really sure what the fourth one would
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Speaker 1: have that will be interesting. Divorced her kids. Okay, spoiler
44:31
Speaker 1: alert for everybody if you plan to read these books
44:33
Speaker 1: or if you haven't. I think he dies supposed to die?
44:37
Speaker 1: Oh wow, well that would also be would also be
44:43
Speaker 1: a twist. I have such a long I won't do
44:48
Speaker 1: it obviously now, but I have such a long to
44:50
Speaker 1: feel about how I find it fascinating that things that
44:53
Speaker 1: started out so like upbeat, as the writer a creator
44:57
Speaker 1: gets older, they get more and more cynical. And I'm like,
45:02
Speaker 1: it's because you, I think, because you have gone through
45:04
Speaker 1: things and your kid hates you. So now we're witnessing. Okay, well,
45:11
Speaker 1: thank you for going down this road. What did you think?
45:16
Speaker 1: I thought it was funny? Um, I had. I had
45:19
Speaker 1: a good time watching it. I watched it with a
45:20
Speaker 1: friend who had seen it a million times, so that
45:22
Speaker 1: was really really fun to kind of get our different
45:25
Speaker 1: like points of view. But yeah, yeah, it was. It's
45:30
Speaker 1: so funny to me too, because I just don't watch
45:31
Speaker 1: rom coms not often, so I was. My friend watches
45:35
Speaker 1: them all the time, and so she would be like,
45:37
Speaker 1: hair comes the this moment has to happen, this X
45:41
Speaker 1: y Z, and it would happen, and I'd be like,
45:43
Speaker 1: how do you know all this? And She's like, it's
45:44
Speaker 1: a rom cop. I was like, oh, but I think
45:48
Speaker 1: I've learned some things. I've learned something. Okay, Okay, I
45:56
Speaker 1: like that. That's you're learning things from all rom coms. True,
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Speaker 1: that's true. Yeah. We'll talk about the list of movies later.
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Speaker 1: But I'm glad we went down this road. Thank you
46:06
Speaker 1: listeners who went down this road with us. Tell us
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Speaker 1: your view, what your thoughts are, and if you're from
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Speaker 1: the UK, let us know. Did I just you know,
46:16
Speaker 1: completely offend everyone. Yeah, all of our UK listeners are
46:19
Speaker 1: done with listen. Yes, please let us know if you
46:23
Speaker 1: have any suggestions for what our next movie should be. Yeah,
46:26
Speaker 1: any thoughts on this one? You can share those thoughts
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46:36
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46:40
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