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Cath’s Club Change Pain, Liz’s Rich Perm History & Carolyn’s Kitchen Dilemma · No Dribble

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  Speaker 1: Seven. Obviously that's the number of netballers needed to take
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  Speaker 1: the court five if it's social netball and no one
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  Speaker 1: bothers to show up. But did you know we now
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  Speaker 1: have that many retired mascots. We have enough retired mascots
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: to be able to make an entire netball team. And
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  Speaker 1: I would like to know who would you put where
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  Speaker 1: the sandpipe of the Jaeger, the Magpie, the Giant, the Phoenix,
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  Speaker 1: the kestrels, the Oriel?
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  Speaker 2: Who would go.
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  Speaker 1: Where on this court? You're on No Dribble strap in Hello,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome to No Dribble, the podcast where we talk
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  Speaker 1: about netball, where we makeup statistics that otherwise have no
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  Speaker 1: place in the world, and we talk about so much more.
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  Speaker 1: I am the Chief maker Upper. I am the chief
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  Speaker 1: mascot statistician for the country of Australia in twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Carol and Swindell.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kath Cox.
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  Speaker 2: What are you? Chief of Caathcomb?
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  Speaker 3: Not a great deal.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Liz Ellis and I'm chief of not much either.
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  Speaker 1: Well, looks like I'm in charge you netball mascot statistician.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Darryl is actually Darryl Milton but anyway, Hi, welcome back.
• 1:30
  Speaker 1: It's Friday morning. We know nothing more than we did
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  Speaker 1: when we recorded the Wednesday episode because we record everything
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: on a Monday. But we've still got exciting stuff to
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: talk about.
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  Speaker 4: I think we should just go out and a lim
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  Speaker 4: and say, oh my god, how amazing.
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  Speaker 1: Did you see? You know what? We should go? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: Gretel Buener coming back in every team?
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  Speaker 3: Unbelievable?
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  Speaker 2: So can I say? Though?
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  Speaker 5: I think and I know, we're going to talk a
• 1:57
  Speaker 5: bit about you know, Catherine's club moves later in the episode.
• 2:00
  Speaker 5: But the thing that I found most fascinating about all
• 2:04
  Speaker 5: of this was that every rumor I heard, I either
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  Speaker 5: heard an opposite rumor or has turned out to not
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  Speaker 5: be quite right.
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  Speaker 3: So the truth get in the way of a good story.
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  Speaker 5: No, And I wonder if, because netball circles are sort
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  Speaker 5: of over quite a bit, someone starts a rumor and
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  Speaker 5: then so you hear it from one person, and then
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  Speaker 5: it goes around and around to hear.
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  Speaker 2: It from someone else. You know, I've heard it from
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  Speaker 2: two sorts. That must.
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  Speaker 5: It's the same rumor doing so, the only rumor I
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  Speaker 5: did hear that was true was Gracenwenky leaving the sweets.
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  Speaker 5: Everything else has been debunked, and I think the best
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  Speaker 5: the people who really come into their own obviously this
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  Speaker 5: time of the year with the social media teams, and
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  Speaker 5: the best one that I saw was a meme where
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  Speaker 5: there was a guy sitting in an office chair swinging
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  Speaker 5: around around not looking at a woman who was running
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  Speaker 5: around parks in recreation and the woman running aroun was
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  Speaker 5: the rumor that Helen Hows is heading back to the UK,
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  Speaker 5: and the guy sitting in the middle of not looking
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  Speaker 5: was the.
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  Speaker 4: Swifts Hagard was the Firebirds that happened Monday morning with
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  Speaker 4: the scrabble pieces. So there's some lots of thought going
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  Speaker 4: into the I love it now it's the bloody team.
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  Speaker 2: No, but that's not fun. This is what the MAVs
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  Speaker 2: have been too.
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  Speaker 1: Sad of our misery, and the MAVs social media team
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  Speaker 1: has has I think, lifted the quality of social media
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  Speaker 1: in our game, which is a really important sort of
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  Speaker 1: growth motor for us. We really and I think that
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  Speaker 1: all of the social media teams are doing a great
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  Speaker 1: I remember this time last year there was some little
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  Speaker 1: hints put out there about who was coming where they
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  Speaker 1: are like it was it was a lot of fun.
• 3:44
  Speaker 1: This is more fun, but we've been starved of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm actually it's one of the things I'm really
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: excited about with sen taking over the Giants franchise, is
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  Speaker 1: that what they what the MAVs have brought because they
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: have to be disruptors because they don't have a long
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: legacy to draw upon. So what they have done and
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: particularly given it was sort of like Collingwood's out, what
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  Speaker 1: are we doing? They were coming from a standing start
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  Speaker 1: and they have done a sensational job, and I think
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  Speaker 1: that's improved. You know, it's given us all a little
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  Speaker 1: bit more of an appetite for that and all of
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  Speaker 1: that stuff is what builds the ecosystem around the game.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, I know, it's so good. It's so much fun,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best.
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  Speaker 1: Do you have anything to distract us with while we're waiting?
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  Speaker 4: I did see this funny question the other day somewhere
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  Speaker 4: and it got me thinking about mine, which is so embarrassing.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm going to put it to you too.
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  Speaker 4: First, the most embarrassing phase.
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  Speaker 3: You went through, Come on, give it to me.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like this is a very cruel question to
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  Speaker 1: ask someone with pale skin who grew up in Queensland?
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  Speaker 3: Did you have a goth moment? Yes?
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  Speaker 1: I did? You Actually I did. I did get out.
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  Speaker 1: It was more sort of, you know, because it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: as easy to find the information then about what you
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  Speaker 1: had to do for what, so it was sort of
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  Speaker 1: it was just this quite alternative phase kind of maybe
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  Speaker 1: you'd call it a bit emo, bit goth, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm grateful that I did this in a time
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  Speaker 1: than when a number of my friends were going, let's
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: get out there and slather our bodies with baby oil
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  Speaker 1: and tan up, because it is I do have some
• 5:32
  Speaker 1: benefits of the legacy of the goth emo alternate era.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't think we'd have to talk about it casual.
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  Speaker 2: I love this.
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  Speaker 4: I need details though. Was it like, did you do
• 5:44
  Speaker 4: dark hair? Did you do the moody eye?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the kings? Yeah. Not a lot of piercings a lot.
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  Speaker 1: I've always been No. Well, I got my ears pierced
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  Speaker 1: when I was like seven or eight, and then I
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: got a second piercing done in my ear lobe like
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: in each year, like two years ago. And that's because
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: how white woman is this? For my fiftieth birthday, Pete
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  Speaker 1: brought me some diamond ear rings and I thought, I'm
• 6:07
  Speaker 1: just not wearing my diamond studs often enough. So I
• 6:09
  Speaker 1: got a second piercing, so not quite not quite a
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  Speaker 1: goth piercing. And also I went to a high school
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  Speaker 1: where you weren't allowed to you know, it was like
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  Speaker 1: you wear one set of earrings, only there's no makeup
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  Speaker 1: or the like. So it was kind of a as
• 6:24
  Speaker 1: every phase has been in my life. It was half fast.
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  Speaker 1: So I finished university and I thought it'd be cool
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  Speaker 1: to be a vegetarian, so I went into that.
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  Speaker 3: Did that last?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I did no research whatsoever on it, because
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  Speaker 1: there's certain things that it's like if you have a
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  Speaker 1: spinach and cheese type thing, something bonds with the eye
• 6:43
  Speaker 1: and so you don't get as much iron out of that.
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  Speaker 1: You need to know what you're doing. If you're going
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  Speaker 1: to become a vegetarian or a vegan, how you need
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  Speaker 1: to understand nutrition. I did nothing. Went to the doctor.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, I'm dying. I've got no energy. It
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  Speaker 1: look like in yes, And the doctor said to me,
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: you either need to research this stuff or start really
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  Speaker 1: eating meat. And it's like, well, I just can't get
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: a kebab then, And that was my one and only
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  Speaker 1: brush with vegetarianism. And I am half asked, as we
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  Speaker 1: all know. So that was me. I reckon, it's only fair,
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: and you can't if you too, say oh I had
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  Speaker 1: a phase where I wasn't as good at netball, or
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  Speaker 1: I had a phase where I thought, oh gosh, I
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: wish I wasn't so tall and pretty. That does not count.
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  Speaker 1: I have bared my soul. You need to bring something
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  Speaker 1: good to this discussion, and I will tell you if
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  Speaker 1: it is good enough.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know about good, but I have two things.
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  Speaker 5: The first embarrassing phase for me was the eighties, because
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  Speaker 5: I embraced the eighties full throatedly with embraces.
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  Speaker 4: And a perm Did you have the little dimontes on
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  Speaker 4: your tea, like the colored ones?
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  Speaker 2: I'm too long for that. They didn't, right.
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  Speaker 6: So you do the colored bands that did not exist.
• 8:04
  Speaker 5: You had full metal like I was a little bit
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  Speaker 5: later than in the old and olden days.
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  Speaker 2: You used to have to wear like brackets around the
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  Speaker 2: back of your head. I didn't have to do that, but.
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  Speaker 5: I did have braces in the eighties, and I did
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  Speaker 5: team that in sort of the mid to late eighties.
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  Speaker 2: With a perm.
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  Speaker 5: And so now when I look back at like photos
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  Speaker 5: of me in sort of years eight, nine and ten,
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  Speaker 5: it is not that great.
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  Speaker 2: It is frizzy hair, big the big fringe and the
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  Speaker 2: braces and so you used to.
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  Speaker 1: Do this with your fringe in the eighties, Yeah, that.
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  Speaker 5: And you put it out and put it in the
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  Speaker 5: hairsprayer and then and then like do you remember, like
• 8:45
  Speaker 5: it would be like a big wave. Yeah, And so
• 8:49
  Speaker 5: funnily enough, like the school that I went. I went
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  Speaker 5: to school in the western summerb of Sydney and a
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  Speaker 5: lot of the kids on a Friday night that would
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  Speaker 5: go to Marconi Club under eighteens night and I always
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  Speaker 5: desperate to go, but Mum wouldn't take me because I
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  Speaker 5: had netball the next day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so pleased.
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  Speaker 1: Because you had a perm and she went, you don't
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  Speaker 1: want to go out of the house looking like that.
• 9:07
  Speaker 5: Well, but if I look the same, right, So I'm
• 9:09
  Speaker 5: laugh now, like you know all you know girls in
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  Speaker 5: eight I've got a girl in year nine and I'm.
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  Speaker 2: Like, you're all the same, like with your parted hair
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  Speaker 2: in the middle.
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  Speaker 4: And there's going to be no awkwardness. When they look back,
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  Speaker 4: they're also so done.
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  Speaker 1: And beautiful every age group, though at some stage something
• 9:30
  Speaker 1: they will go, oh, that was a regrettable fashion. But
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: what there might be one in the last set apart
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: and everybody looking like exactly the same person. How you
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: do commentary? It's so bloody hard to tell who's who
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: when they've all got the same hairstyle. But there's no
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  Speaker 1: bad photos of this young generation, and I think that's sad.
• 9:50
  Speaker 1: They just delete it if it's a bad photo. But
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: the greatest memories come from the worst photos.
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  Speaker 5: And the photos are a bit blurry and not everyone's
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  Speaker 5: in it, and you've got to sort of like your
• 10:03
  Speaker 5: imagination goes, oh, that's right, that's that's this is how
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  Speaker 5: I remember.
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  Speaker 2: That, and this is how I remember that.
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  Speaker 1: But actually, sidebar, I heard something quite disturbing the other
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  Speaker 1: day that the algorithm that social media is set up
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: if a if a young woman deletes a selfie, that
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: at that stage there is some advertising triggered about things
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  Speaker 1: about makeup, about skin care, about Yeah, like that's evil,
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  Speaker 1: isn't it. Like that's okay, someone's someone is vulnerable at
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: the moment, let's trigger this. Now I'm going to have
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: to look up where I heard that from, because we
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: try to be responsible with the information. But I heard
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: that no doubt about the veracity of it, because it's
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: so likely to be true, right, it's not disgraceful.
• 10:46
  Speaker 3: But whilst before I get to mind, I have to
• 10:49
  Speaker 3: pick my no.
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  Speaker 6: I love it. I love it. From this angle, you
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  Speaker 6: can't really see it looking straight. That's that's what it
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  Speaker 6: was like when you look at So have you seen
• 11:00
  Speaker 6: romy and Michelle? Of course, so you know it's actually little.
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: That's my actual culture is Rummy and Michelle.
• 11:07
  Speaker 4: So you know the short, dark haired lady Heather Moody,
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: you are her. She is animal And I think that's
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: what when I said the gothing, I was looking at
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  Speaker 4: you thinking that's what you would look like.
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  Speaker 6: Oh my god.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: So you need.
• 11:19
  Speaker 5: To to you need to campaign to get Romey and
• 11:22
  Speaker 5: Michelle included as like religion in the census for the
• 11:27
  Speaker 5: can do it so the perm But I do look
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: back at photos and I go like, I can't laugh
• 11:32
  Speaker 5: at sixteen year old now sixteen year olds out all
• 11:34
  Speaker 5: who have the same hair, because I'm like, we all
• 11:36
  Speaker 5: had the same hair, but.
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: It was year did you have your perm? I was
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: eighty eight.
• 11:40
  Speaker 5: I was going to say, I reckon eighty seven, eighty eight,
• 11:42
  Speaker 5: so in eighty seven, Well, I'm not going to lie.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: I had it through to the early nineties. So I reconiz.
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  Speaker 1: That's the only useful thing that you've brought to this
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: conversation is actually admitting that everything else. Of course, you
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: had a perm. We all had perms, you know.
• 11:59
  Speaker 4: Actually was the boys had the perms and the long
• 12:01
  Speaker 4: hair as well, so it looked like there were two
• 12:03
  Speaker 4: girls macking on every time you saw the guys and
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: the girls out, you know, like when you see the
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  Speaker 4: eighties rockers, the guys they look like the girls exactly
• 12:13
  Speaker 4: the same.
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  Speaker 1: The long haired.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so good. I love a big hair band. But
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: when the meat tray met me, I was in.
• 12:23
  Speaker 5: Brace's v Two two point zero because my teeth had
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  Speaker 5: moved and I was at the end of a perm.
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  Speaker 5: And he often says he was playing the long game
• 12:31
  Speaker 5: when he met me.
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  Speaker 4: Do you know what now, I reckon, it's a short
• 12:38
  Speaker 4: game if you reverse it.
• 12:40
  Speaker 3: Like if you meet a beautiful.
• 12:42
  Speaker 4: Girl these days, by the time she goes home, takes
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: off the fake lashes and the sucking underwear and the
• 12:50
  Speaker 4: everything is fake and the fake tan, And it's completely different,
• 12:54
  Speaker 4: isn't it. Back then you're working on fixing the long
• 12:57
  Speaker 4: term stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's just like blasted.
• 13:00
  Speaker 5: Oh now you can just fix up your photo with AI.
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: You never have to leave the house because you're so hot.
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: I was listening to something on the radio this morning,
• 13:07
  Speaker 1: and apparently people are whitening their teeth in their images
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  Speaker 1: that are going on to social media, which now means
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: people are going to the dentist. So this woman who
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: I was speaking to was like who I was speaking
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: to who I was listening to on the radio. She
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: is from like the dental association. She's saying she's getting
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: people coming in and going, I want my teeth to
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: look like that, and she said, their teeth don't look
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: like that.
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  Speaker 5: So, you know, if you go back and watch eighties movies.
• 13:30
  Speaker 5: So I remember I said to you guys a few
• 13:32
  Speaker 5: weeks ago that I went back and watched ET. The
• 13:34
  Speaker 5: thing that stands out when you watch eighties movies is
• 13:36
  Speaker 5: people have normal teeth. Yeah, you go back and watch
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: the eighties movies like.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: Oh not everyone has these white not perfectly. Yeah. So
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: let me full disclosure.
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  Speaker 5: I did buy a whitening kit for five hundred bucks
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  Speaker 5: from my dentist about three years ago.
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  Speaker 2: And it's still sitting in my room. And you know why,
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: I don't what it is?
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: It because you can't drink tea and I love drinking
• 13:57
  Speaker 5: cup of tea in the morning.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, bugger that I'm not going to whiten.
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  Speaker 2: My teeth are not worth it.
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: I did white mine once at the dentist and they said,
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: just for the next two or three days, use a
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: straw for your coffee and your tea and your red.
• 14:09
  Speaker 3: One and stuff.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, and I did, and then that ship has sailed. Now, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: that's not worth it. Can I tell you my other
• 14:16
  Speaker 7: embarrassing phase just quickly, which was better than the PERM
• 14:20
  Speaker 7: because it's different. Right until PERM in the nineties, that
• 14:23
  Speaker 7: was lame shut up.
• 14:26
  Speaker 5: So in the early two thousands, I went with my
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: friend Catherine and got a tattoo. And so I have
• 14:32
  Speaker 5: a tattoo on my back of a gecko, which I love,
• 14:37
  Speaker 5: but I forget it's there. And then I was lying
• 14:40
  Speaker 5: in bed the other morning and our son often gets
• 14:43
  Speaker 5: into bed and has a snuggle with us.
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: And he.
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  Speaker 5: Pulled up my shirt and he was looking at it,
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  Speaker 5: and he's like, Mum, this doesn't look good. I said, no, no,
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: you're just saying that, and then the meat trailinged over
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: and he was like, do you know what?
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  Speaker 2: That has not aged well? So well?
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  Speaker 1: It is a red tile? For god?
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  Speaker 6: Is the get a little larger.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably a little bit smaller, a little stretched in places.
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  Speaker 2: But not uniform.
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  Speaker 1: Cheeky bastards and do.
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  Speaker 5: You know what it's not? The edges aren't particularly defined anymore.
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  Speaker 5: It's got blurry.
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: They do, don't they? They look bad?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, So before I get onto mine, the dribblers need
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: to get on Facebook with any bad photos of themselves
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  Speaker 4: from the eighties, and they're happy to share. We will
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: do the same if we can find will we will.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Liz, I'll just share yours.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we've got.
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: When we moved over to our new Instagram account, the
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: first photo I put up there was just a view
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  Speaker 1: with your perm in your swishy tracksuit home. Yeah, but look,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: there's nothing to be ashamed of. Let's embrace it, dribblers,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: let's find let's let's find a photo of our worst.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I will say I don't have a tattoo because I
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: got a perm in nineteen eighty eight. I cannot trust
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  Speaker 1: myself to make a decision that I'm happy to live
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: with long term on anything to do.
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  Speaker 3: That's not how tattoos were. You're never happy with them
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: long term. That's why removal companies are making the mint.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: So what was yours?
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  Speaker 2: So?
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: I lived in Castle Hill, which is like northwest Snow
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: were near the beach. I went through a surf for
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: girl face where I had to buy only surf gear.
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: I had surf stickers to put everywhere. I would buy
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: the magazines and I'd cut the pictures out and put
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: them all over things.
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: I did.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: The works never had, having never surfed in my life.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: And I look back at that now and I'm actually horrified.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: I tried to bleach my hair with ajax?
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: What? Yeah? What were Firstly?
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: You know, remember that sun in stuff that was meant
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: to help your hair. You put it on, then you
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: went the sun and it went orange.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: But I was like, it's just chemicals and stuff.
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: So I put some ajax in my hair and thought
• 16:56
  Speaker 4: that might bleach the color and I could be a
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: bit blonder and be a bit more of a surfy girl.
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: You're You're lucky you're not bald. Oh my god, the
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: works anyway, I don't put ax in your hair ever, anyone. Please?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Do they still sell ajax? Is that a thing?
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: Of course? They did?
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: Had wore the Oakley's Did that my own?
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: Did you have phones? Surfer Joe thongs? You know the
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: ones that sort of the base of them, So so
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: there's the soul, but actually it's sort of spread out
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: at the base underneath it. It was like a pyramid
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: effect from the soul.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: To Oh no, I didn't.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: They were terrible, Like if you you had those, like,
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: that's that's fully committed.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I'll see if I find a photo. But anyway, like
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: literally everything was covered in surfing pictures, magazines, stickers, clothes,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: you name it. A girl from the West.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: What did this come from? Who did you fall in
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: love with?
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: I don't, I don't.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: I think it was just obsessed with probably Tom Carroll
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: or yeah another Tom was yeah, yeah, okay, all of.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: Them, yeah, all of whom would have fit underneath your elbow.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Correct, And I have since met them and they do
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: fit under my elbow.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Anyway, there you go.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Next time, I want you to come clean and say
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: I risked my head of hair for you.
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so great, that's so great. Imagine if you
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: and I had been friends then with our height difference
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: And please blonde the ajax surfy.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Do you remember it's just about what we're like on
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: the inside people. Oh well, much as I'd love to
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: hang around here all day talking about this, we need
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: to have a little break and then come back and
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: talk about some knitball. Okay. If you're wondering why I
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: say netball like that, it's because I was born in
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: New Zealand obviously, and I'm allowed to and our third
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: biggest market for no dripple after the UK. Come on,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: New Zealand, do better than that. We're going to We're
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: going to be watching with interest what goes on there.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: That's actually really interesting. So Ali Williams, former All Black,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: and his wife whose name I've forgotten, who is a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: very successful businesswoman. They are the ones behind the potential
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: private ownership of the New Zealand League and they're looking
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: at doing some type of bridging camp for twenty twenty seven.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: But there's some talk by ex silver Ferns coaches that
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Australia is going to be stealing the players in the meantime,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: so there ain't no stealing going on there's just jobs
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: on off of for good players. But I really hope
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that New Zealand comp gets up. I'm thrilled to see
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that people are getting people, particularly private sector people are going, actually,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this is something that we can build and make some
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: money on.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely.
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: And you know we've been talking about the census, so
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: it's just hit me that sixty six percent of no
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: joble hosts were born in New Zealand.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Oh, now that's a start you need to be worried about.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: I am concerned how many of them still having a
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: New zeal On passport though, Well I do.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're thirty three percent. Because I wouldn't be caught dead.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Do you know why I got it. I got it
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in before COVID. Remember those horrendous bush fires that were
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: on here and the whole bloody country was on fire,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: and I realized I hadn't done my kid's citizenship by descent.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: And I thought, one day, when we've run out of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: water and the world is just this hellscape of fire
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: and climate change has done it, so the children might
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: want to go and live in New Zealand. So I
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: got there. I had to get my passport renewed in
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: order to then activate the acknowledgment of their citizenship by descent,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: which they'll have to give up if they ever want
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: to stand for parliament.
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: But it's still a little dramatic reason to do it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: The sure No, I did mine because I was teased
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: by my New South Wales netball team at the time relentlessly,
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: so it was time.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: To I do feel a bit bad about that. Catherine.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: Now you probably should have kept in New Zealand.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: It's fine, and I want my Aussie one. I proudly
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: display it.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Anna Mowbray is the very successful business woman, an entrepreneur
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: in New Zealand whose name I should have been able
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: to call to mind quickly, who is potentially behind this
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: next comp in New Zealand. So Anna and Ali were
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: really hoping you can get this up. That'll be exciting,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: all right you.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: I've got some questions for Catherine.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's get to it. Let's let's put the surf
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: arounder some heat, let's put the it's going to be.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: Gnarly, yeah, yeah, it's going to be.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Might be in the green room soon shooting barrels. What
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: is it? What are you doing?
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Barrels?
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, ride barrels.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Barrels.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: I think Catherine's more the Puberty Blues type, where you know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: Get me a chick roll your mother.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: How good was that show?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: This was wat I was going to do a no
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: drible recommends for Long Bright River, which is a great show.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: There's a woman in that, Ashley Cummings, who's an Australian
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: who was in the reboot of Puberty Blues, who used
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: to be our babysitter. Oh not for me, obviously for
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the kids.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Actually comings before she got famous. We were pointing it
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: out to him the other day.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: He didn't.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: He didn't warm to her. She tried so hard. I
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: think she tried too hard. You know sometimes kids go
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: You're tried too hard. I don't like it. He was
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: about three and this poor young woman like she sat
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: in his room in silence with him while he slept,
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: and he just gave her nothing. Anyway, Puberty Blues. You,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: Catherine love Puberty Blues. So Catherine, we're talking. We've been
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: talking this week.
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: A lot about the signings period and players changing, and
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: we sort of because we're recording this on Monday, we
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: have no idea about what's going on. I mean, there's
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: some things happening with her rumors, But we'll do a
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: full recap and sort of analysis next week.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, who'll my kidding?
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: Catherine is not coming back to play for the new Giant.
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: Oh the cats out of the bag.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: But she is not changing clubs again.
• 23:10
  Speaker 3: Though.
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: You have changed clubs a few times through your career,
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: and we talked about the stats from Darryl at about
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: twenty percent of Super NETBWLE players each year sort of
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: change in and out when you changed clubs, Like, what
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: are the things.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: That made you choose a particular club.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: Because it wasn't one million dollars that made you made
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: you change each time?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: What was it?
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: No, Well, firstly, let the record show I did not
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: want to change clubs.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Ever.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: I did want to stay at the same one and
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: be a one club player, but that wasn't on the cards.
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: So when the Swifts let me go that that was
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: the biggest heartbreak for me because I envisaged being there
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: for my whole career and at that point, given how
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: hurt I felt by that, I went, do you know what?
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: I can fully appreciate what a ruthless business this is.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Now my next decision won't be based on love like
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: it has been for fifteen years or lorty. I am given,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I'm now an older athlete, going to take the best money.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: That's actually what it came down to.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: How old were you?
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: I would have been thirty six.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Got you're amazing, but that wasn't even the end. You
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: still had years.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: No, No, you were young. You were younger than that.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: When the Swifts let you go, we' you No.
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: Well I can't have been because I retired at thirty. Well,
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I must have been thirty five. It wouldn't have been
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: any younger because I only had three more years to play,
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: only played three more years, retired.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: At thirty eight thirty nine.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: So that was the decision I made at that point
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: to go to West Coast. There were other clubs that
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: I was chatting with and they weren't offering as much,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: and they were much better clubs and clubs that I
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: would have probably won a premiership with or played finals
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: with at least. But I thought, do you know what
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: I just I have been shown the exit in the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: harshest of fashions. This is not what I thought it was.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: And I'm going to treat every decision from here on
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: in as the end of my career and making the
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: most of it financially.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: So how long did that emotional process take A lot.
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: It was a long time just to even calm down
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: to get to that way.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: I bet it was.
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: But it also has to happen very quickly, Like you
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: look at these windows now, players are finding out they're
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: not wanted and they've got to quickly turn it around.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: So you've got to get on with the job. But
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: so I moved to the West Coast for the money
• 25:35
  Speaker 4: and after two really tough years, that's when I went.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: You know what, it's not all about the money, and
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: it can't be all about the money because it wasn't
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: enjoyable so the finals.
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: So when you say tough years, tough because you were
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: away from your social support base, not at all.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: I mean my social support phases always been netball, because
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: that's that's your family at any given time. My family
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: was all living in Queensland, so they went in Sydney anyway.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But it was just tough because it was a younger team,
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: we weren't winning. It was a coach I wasn't necessarily
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: getting along.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: With at the time.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: Loved the location, but lots traveling across the country and
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: so after those two years, I just went, yeah, you've
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: got now, you've got to be sensible, because you might
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: just have one or two more years left in you
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: to go somewhere where you're going to really enjoy it too,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: Like you're going to enjoy being back in a good
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: professional side, a coach that you get on with, one
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that you you know, I used to play with, as
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: it turned out when I went to the Vixen's with
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Samoe mckinneses, with a more mature team, So all of
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: those things were then taken into the account. A place
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: that you might want to live for a year was Melbourne.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: So I completely turned my thinking on its head in
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: between my two moves, and for very different reasons. But
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I think you also got to live it and learn
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: it along the way as well, and that will happen
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: with a lot of these players that might be uprooting
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: their lives, moving for court time or whatever it is
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: they think they're getting, But then they might get there
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: and realize they actually need their support systems, their families
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: and they might end up moving back. So it's one
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: of those things you just got to dip your toe into.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Supporters and one of the things that used to come
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: up a lot back when we played for the Swifts
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: and we go through the recruiting phase and back then
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: none of us signed contracts. You disagree with the coach
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: that you'd turn up right because and then by the
• 27:25
  Speaker 5: end we were signing contracts, but you don't ever sign
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: for a year. And there was none of the scrutiny
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: or the public stuff. Now, I mean there was no
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: social media, right, so of course there was not a scrutiny.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: But you know, players would come to Julie and say,
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: I've been offered a position here because they want me,
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: and they've guaranteed me court time. And at the first
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: few times that we sort of heard that were like,
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: oh my god, we can't guarantee people court time. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 5: then the players would go and they wouldn't get court time,
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: and you realize that that is such a furfy and
• 27:57
  Speaker 5: you know, players will like get told things and be sold,
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: you know, the dream, but so often it just doesn't
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: happen that way. So, you know, I think treating it
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: like a business is a good idea. Looking for the
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: clubs that were looking for you're going to get paid
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: the best, but also a coach that you respect, And
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I think a coach that says I'm guaranteeing you court
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: time like that should be like a massive red flag.
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: It's probably easier to say now though, isn't it, given
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: rolling subs?
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, and it might not be such a
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: thing anymore. Yeah, And back then we had twelve players.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: Right now they've aouting on ten, so you are probably
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: going to end up getting caught time. But yeah, and
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: clubs with a good culture I think is sort of
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: where you want to be looking at as well, with
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: a culture that looks after the pay.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: If you're not in that club, how do you determine
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the culture? What are the things that you're looking at? So, say, Liz,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: for you, you're in you're in Sydney, how do you
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: what kind of visibility do you have of a club
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: in Perth and what their culture really is? How do
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: you investigate that? Well, maybe, Cat, that's probably a better
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: question for you because you had to do exactly that.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: Oh well, you would ask the questions and you're close enough.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: Do you have a good culture? Yes, okay, but.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You'd ask the players on per But we were also
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: fortunate enough to be in the running diamonds environment, So
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: you would see those players from those clubs on a
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: regular basis. When you went to Diamonds camp, you get
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: a very good feel for their environments at club level,
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: how they speak about them, if it's positive or not.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: But I mean, I think this day and age, aside
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: from you know, where are you going to make money,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: you'd be looking at your coach, you'd be looking.
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: At the playing group. I don't know how.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: Easy it is to divulge who you're going to be
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: playing with them in the early stages of negotiation.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Now, well, this is what I've been thinking about all
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: of it, because it's so well, we think this is
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: what we want. But you know, presumably they're talking about
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: let's land the marquee player, and if we get that player,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: then we go boom boom, boom, boom boom. If we
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: don't get that player, then we want this player, and
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that's a different set of things. So all of these
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: discussions would be so contingent on well, if this then that.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Going looking for combinations, for instance, how do you guarantee that.
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: You don't And I don't think we've seen any goalkeepers announced,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: have we. I mean not that I'm biased, Are they important?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Well, maybe they'll be the lightly afterthought at the end when.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: You meet you a mid court and a shooter, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: then you've got a defenders.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: You don't really need them, do you. But I am
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: certain like a lot of my understanding of the current
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: situation is that there are one or two goalkeepers who
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: have to make a decision, and then everyone else falls
• 30:33
  Speaker 5: into place after that. And so like, if you're a
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: goal defense for a wing defense, you're going because it's
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: exactly that who.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: We're going to play with, Well, we don't know, right.
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: It must be so frustrating for both clubs and players
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: to go.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: How do I know?
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Probably the only one where you're starting to get a
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: feel you're two best.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: In the league are wrapped up. You would suspect.
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: Maloney will be as well. She's not gone anywhere else
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: than the Vixen's. There is only one goal shooter. I'm
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: keeping in mind this is Monday, yep, that has been
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: signed as well, so that flow on effect is still
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: to come.
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: That's fascinating, isn't it.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: No, We've got Danelle and Shimona announced today.
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: Everything's breaking. I'm sitting here on my phone going.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: Refreshing for it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: So this is a really interesting one now as we
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: are recording on Monday, so we don't know what's going
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: on there. But I look at someone like Jesse Grenvold
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: who went to MAVs behind Tara Hinchcliffe. Tara's been re signed,
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: and if I'm Jesse now and she, Jesse had a
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: sensational twenty twenty sixth season and you know, went into
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: the Diamonds there, And so that's an interesting question, isn't
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it that it's like, we'll be great to stay with
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: the MAVs. I'm assuming she looks like she had a
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: good time there, but you know the club will want
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: to bring Tara back on. But so then the whole conversation,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I guess would be about well load management for Tara
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and then what does that look like for court time.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: And this is just just one example. And by the
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: time this goes to air on Friday, Jesse may have
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  Speaker 1: gone somewhere else. I don't know, but that for me
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  Speaker 1: is a question that has been on my mind for
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: a couple of days as to what are the conversations
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  Speaker 1: she is having. Clearly, as such a superstar of the
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: very near future, this.
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  Speaker 4: Is about controlling the controllables too, right, Like Jess. All
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: Jesse can do is play well. She had a cracking season.
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  Speaker 4: She just put herself in the best possible position for
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  Speaker 4: a contract at any club.
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  Speaker 6: Everyone will be.
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  Speaker 3: Chasing her, which is all you can do.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's about just you know, choosing the fit
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  Speaker 3: that's right for you.
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  Speaker 1: I guess I think I know.
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  Speaker 2: No one ever chased me because I was too loyal.
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  Speaker 1: Matthew did when you had your perm and your braces.
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  Speaker 3: He was playing the longer. Remember that's the girl for me.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: No signs long term my husband till I was thirty
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  Speaker 1: five and I was past Danny awkward adolescent. So there's
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: still hope for me because you're not your Sure, let's
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: roll with that. Actually, I did make a note then
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: while you were talking, Catherine, you said something and I thought,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: maybe if you do want to have another tattoo, that
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  Speaker 1: this would be something that you could write on your
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  Speaker 1: arm and remember your own wisdom. It says, now you've
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: got to be sensible, so you should get a tattoo.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: It says, now you've got to be sensible. Okay, well,
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  Speaker 1: that was fascinating. We're going to take a little break
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: and come back. I have a dilemma. Okay, this one
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: has this this this one. Well, you know, we know
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: I'm a anka. We know that there's no secret about that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: But so we've started using cooking wine. Love to cook
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  Speaker 1: with wine. But yeah, but so we'd open a bottle
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  Speaker 1: of wine, use it, drink the rest.
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  Speaker 6: But now that actually cooking wine.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Well that's right, So that was wasteful, and it's like, well,
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: we should get some cooking wine, right, we should get
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: crappy wine that you just use for cooking. And we
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: have recently purchased a small cask of wine, the goon bag.
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  Speaker 1: Goon bag, the cheapest, nastiest goon bag that.
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  Speaker 3: We could find.
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  Speaker 1: I can't remember how much it was, and it was
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: only it's only a two liter two calf two. But
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: so it sits on the bench in the kitchen right
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  Speaker 1: beside the stove there, and Pete said the other day
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  Speaker 1: could we label it cooking wine? And I said, I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: think if we label it cooking wine, it looks like
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: it's our real wine that we're trying to make look
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: like it's cooking wine. I think we just have to
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: let it sit there in the open, not define it
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  Speaker 1: and assume that people will know. Because we are wine
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: winkers that that is cooking wine. But what do you think?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Do you think? And then he said we should put
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: it in the fridge, and it's like, well, I think
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: if we put it in the fridge, then it looks
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: like our drinking wine. So you know, I think we
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: just have to be brave and be willing to be
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  Speaker 1: criticized or judged. And if anyone comes into my house
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: and wants to judge me, will shame on them. But
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: you know, would you label it cooking wines?
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  Speaker 4: I have a couple of things. Great is the cooking
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  Speaker 4: wine for cereal in the morning? No, No, it's not
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  Speaker 4: that time cooking.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I would be offended if the cooking wine was poured
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  Speaker 4: into a glass for me on a rival and handed
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  Speaker 4: to me. Otherwise, I don't care what your cooking wine's doing.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you suggest we don't write cooking wine, Well,
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: we're not going to pour it for you, and I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: not going to drink it, so I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: ask anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm not coming into your If you were to
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: give it to me, i'd be judging you.
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: But it's very clearly I.
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: Would have thought, not why that you're drinking it is
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: for another purpose?
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, yep, good, So you're thinking, no point labeling it,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: no need, just have it. Yep, that's what I think, Liz.
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  Speaker 5: I think labeling it show who's a bit of insecurity.
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: So just been very comfortable. I mean, I know you
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: and Peter very comfortable in who you are. But why
• 36:07
  Speaker 5: are you leaving it in the open. Wouldn't you just
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: throw it next to the olive oil? So then it's like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: obviously it's cooking ways it's cooking wine and the olive
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: they're the same size and shape.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: That's obviously the cooking.
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Section in the pantry for it.
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  Speaker 4: So buy another little container by another pantry. Cooking wine
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: is surely decanting the cooking wine is more pretentious or problematic.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Because it will turn to vinegar quick.
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: So I mean, ship wine, it's tasting like vinegar. Anyway,
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: that's true.
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: I've got the answer. I think you just need to
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: buy a new house with a bigger pantry.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Well, this is this is one of the suggestions that
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: I made, and maybe then I wouldn't have to clean
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: this one, so we could just move out and leave
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: the mess by just.
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: Buy a bit of wine, more of it saved the
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: house and drink it.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: We do have nice wine, you, Catherine, when you will
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: come out of here. What we have wine from Western
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Australia and wine from Orange obviously is always what you
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: can expect in this house, all right, So we'll go
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: with continuing to not label the cooking wine and getting
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: over ourselves.
• 37:15
  Speaker 6: Do people label stuff?
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: I reckon you would bloody label everything.
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: No, But I mean, like, it's me and my child
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: in the house, so I'm not labeling stuff because if
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: I'm not eating it, I know she is. But do
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: people I'm intrigued if people in bigger like homes with
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: lots of family members do that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I used to the trouble of labeling everything in our
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: linen cupboard. I went through, I unfolded everything, I refolded it,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I got the Diamo out, I did little things on
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: every shelf, and then no bustard has ever paid attention
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  Speaker 1: to it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: So same I used to, well, I don't label anything
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: in her house other than the tupperware containers.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: And it's a good idea.
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: I like doing that because I got and I was like, oh, Rice, worrio, Rice,
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: the stuff them.
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: That's money, right.
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: This is your tupperware drawer where you've got lid one go, Yeah,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that's what I saw it A one.
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  Speaker 5: No, But I know I've got one of those in
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: my pantry. I've got like a heap of those, you know,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: the stackable one. So I've got a heap of those,
• 38:18
  Speaker 5: and I label them. And then when I built my house,
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I'm in my tup of wear drawer I have divided
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: into lids and the rest of it, which is very.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: Handy and very good.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: So I labeled the tupperware like with the pantry staples.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: But we don't label anything else.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: I try.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: I'm like you, I try the linen cupboard and it
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: doesn't work because I'm the only one who puts anything
• 38:37
  Speaker 5: in there, and I just can't can't be asked. But
• 38:39
  Speaker 5: when I lived in a sharehouse, people used to label
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: things and I could never be bothered labeling anything.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: Did all your stuff go missing?
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't care.
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: I was like, whatever it like, if you're labeling stuff
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: in the fridge, it's a bit of a depressing way
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: to leave, having to label all your stuff in the fridge.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: I'd rather just share.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Can I backtrack to Lizella, saying that she had to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: label three different kinds of ripe us.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, speaking of wankers. Yes, listen, that's all we've got
• 39:07
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• 40:00
  Speaker 1: But so we've got time for I need to go
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  Speaker 6: I'm Cat Cox lose Ellis Bye bye, Hey, I can't talk.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going through socials trying to find.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm going to make a note. At our
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: next event, I think we run some sort of challenge
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: that Liz loses and then she has to get a
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: perm again. Oh how good you would that be?
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: But I'm pretty sure I can do home perms nice.
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  Speaker 1: Even better.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: If she loves her droopers, she'll do it. She would.
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: She shouldn't have gone early today, should she? Anyway?
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