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The Week That Was - 21st October 2022 · 360 with Katie Woolf

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Speaker 1: It is time for the week that was, and joining
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Speaker 1: me in the studio. They've all sort of rearranged themselves
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Speaker 1: this morning. I've got Matt Cunningham from Sky News, Good morning,
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Speaker 1: sitting there in the in the Tory corner we like
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Speaker 1: to call it. And we've got Nicole Madison, the Deputy
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Speaker 1: Chief Minister, Good morning to you.
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Speaker 2: Good morning, Katie, Good morning everyone.
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Speaker 1: And we've got Keesy A Purick, Good morning to you, Kezy,
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Speaker 1: and the Member.
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Speaker 3: For Goider Morning morning, bush people.
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Speaker 1: And we've also got Maurray Clare Boothby, Good morning to you, Murray.
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Speaker 3: Claire from the COLP.
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Speaker 4: Good morning everybody.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful to have you all in the studio. And there
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Speaker 1: is so much happening this morning. In that breaking news,
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Speaker 1: of course, from overnight, we know that in battled British
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Speaker 1: Prime Minister Liz Truss has resigned. Now she dramatically announced
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Speaker 1: that she'd stepped down as the Prime minister after just
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Speaker 1: forty four days in office.
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Speaker 3: Is that the shortest standing prime minister?
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Speaker 5: Apparently not.
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Speaker 2: Apparently it's the second shortest. I don't know, but apparently
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Speaker 2: she's going to get a pinch now of over one
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Speaker 2: hundred pair year on hundred and fifty.
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Speaker 5: Or something like that.
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Speaker 2: Really for forty four days, unbelievable. I couldn't get over.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, surely she was given a raft of Treasury
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Speaker 2: advice before before going forward with her economic policys. It's
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Speaker 2: just that's been a pretty wild time, that the passing
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Speaker 2: of her majesty and then then yeah, it was Yes,
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Speaker 2: it's been wild.
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Speaker 3: It has been unbelievable to watch.
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Speaker 1: And Kisi, you were saying to me or Fair that
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Speaker 1: there was a I believe there was a meme you
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Speaker 1: know what will last longer, Lez Trusaura, let us head, let.
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Speaker 6: Us head, And the answer was I let us head.
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Speaker 6: I mean there's lots of other memes.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 6: Some would say they're been unkind, and they probably are,
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Speaker 6: but I've just watched it and it's just extraordinary how
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Speaker 6: it's just the I'm sure she's a very fine person
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Speaker 6: and a good member of Parliament, but as Nicole said,
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Speaker 6: she wouldn't have gone out there on her own. She
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Speaker 6: would have had a mountain of information kind of briefings.
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Speaker 2: Territory departments don't hold back on advice. There is one
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Speaker 2: department that will take its Treasury department.
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Speaker 5: Advice.
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Speaker 3: I'm better check the book is well, this is the
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Speaker 3: thing and you need that sound advice.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's move on to something that has been a
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Speaker 1: huge issue around the Northern Territory for quite some time.
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Speaker 1: And it feels as though we've spoken about it on
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Speaker 1: so many occasions here on the week that was. But
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Speaker 1: I know that we've got a lot of listeners in
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Speaker 1: Alice Springs and a lot of them listening this morning,
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Speaker 1: and we know that earlier in the week the Territory
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Speaker 1: government said that through the Social Order Response Team, they
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Speaker 1: are going to be driving a coordinated approach across all
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Speaker 1: sectors to improve social order throughout Alice Springs. It follows
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Speaker 1: on from some really desperate calls, I've got to say,
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Speaker 1: from Tourism Central Australia and also from you know, from
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Speaker 1: members of the public everybody in Alice Springs, following on
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Speaker 1: from what has been a really tough time for them.
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Speaker 1: You know, they've called it a crime crisis. Some of
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Speaker 1: the really strong words that we've heard over the last
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Speaker 1: few weeks have even been that the Northern Territory Government
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Speaker 1: does not have control of the streets of Alice Springs.
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Speaker 1: I think it's sort of you know, culminated then on Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: I'd spoken on the show to the chair of Tourism
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Speaker 1: Central Australia, Karl Biazac, who had been punched in the
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Speaker 1: face at ten past eight in the morning on Monday morning.
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Speaker 3: At the Coles Complex. It's been a debarcle.
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Speaker 1: It's been terrible for the people of Alice Springs and
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Speaker 1: the government has now come out of course with that plan.
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Speaker 3: Does it go far enough?
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Speaker 1: Well, some saying that it needs to go further, the
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Speaker 1: likes of Matt Patterson coming out with some other ideas,
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Speaker 1: as did Tourism Central Australia saying that they actually need
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Speaker 1: boots on the ground, they need maybe that security team
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Speaker 1: that have the dogs.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what did you make well?
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Speaker 1: Firstly, mat O a lot of people asking why this
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Speaker 1: wasn't implemented sooner.
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Speaker 2: So this has got not just government at the table.
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Speaker 2: It's actually important that we've got counsel at the table.
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Speaker 2: And I want to applaud Mayor Matt Patterson. Working with
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Speaker 2: the previous council to be frank and Ala Springs was
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Speaker 2: very difficult. Mayor Matt Patterson has shown great leadership. He
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Speaker 2: wants to be part of the solutions and his bought
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Speaker 2: Counsel to the table, so we've got them there. We've
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Speaker 2: got Lura Tippa at the table, Tourism Central Australia, the
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Speaker 2: Chamber of Commerce. Previously it was coming onto the shoulders
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Speaker 2: of government, but it's so much broader the response that
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Speaker 2: is needed than just government, so it's great to have
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Speaker 2: everybody at the table. We have got some good strong
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Speaker 2: KPIs there as well as the government resources. I mean
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Speaker 2: we have put a lot of extra resources into Alis.
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Speaker 2: We've made sure that we've got more police there, more
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Speaker 2: support and territory families, but we do need the other
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Speaker 2: organizations all shoulders to the will and this is about
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Speaker 2: listening to them what the needs are on the ground.
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Speaker 2: There is an immediate response that's happening on the ground,
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Speaker 2: but this.
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Speaker 1: Is about astonishing Yesterday is the Minister for Police, Kate
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Speaker 1: Warden had said on the show that there's like twenty
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Speaker 1: different patrol groups that are operating currently and you think
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Speaker 1: what's going on, Katie.
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Speaker 2: Is about bringing them all together in a more coordinated way.
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Speaker 2: And this is what's going to help Katie.
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Speaker 6: This is not the first time there's been a lack
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Speaker 6: of coordination between government and government agencies and in Goos
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Speaker 6: when I sat on the Youth Select Committee for Youth
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Speaker 6: Suicide and we went to our springs, there was something
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Speaker 6: like twenty organizations dealing with youth issues, between the churches,
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Speaker 6: the Aboriginal groups, the angler cares, anti government agencies, and
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Speaker 6: half of them didn't know the other half were doing
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Speaker 6: the same thing that they were doing. They're all competing
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Speaker 6: for funding, they're all competing for resources. So there's just
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Speaker 6: got to be better control and better management and coordination
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Speaker 6: between all these different groups private sector as well as
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Speaker 6: government sector and in Goos to deliver the resources and
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Speaker 6: the outcomes or the programs that clearly that town needs.
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Speaker 6: So if this sort thing is going to do that,
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Speaker 6: well that's good because you can't just have these things
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Speaker 6: popping up everywhere because they just bread the money too.
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Speaker 2: Things.
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Speaker 7: Remember that there was two or three years ago there
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Speaker 7: was a Productivity Commission reporting to the very same thing
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Speaker 7: when it came to child protection services across the territory
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Speaker 7: and found that there were like five hundred different NGOs
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Speaker 7: operating in that space and no coordination whatsoever.
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Speaker 5: So in some.
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Speaker 7: Communities you had three groups delivering a service and in
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Speaker 7: the other communities you had none. So I think it's
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Speaker 7: good that they're going to put the oversight in. You've
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Speaker 7: just got to make sure that that oversight.
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Speaker 1: Works, and there's got to be KPIs, Like surely there
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Speaker 1: needs to be KPIs to make sure that they're actually
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Speaker 1: if you've got groups that aren't working the way that
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to be and they're receiving government funding, well
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Speaker 1: why do they keep getting it?
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Speaker 2: And can you see in the response that there is
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Speaker 2: there is there are performance measures there about how what
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Speaker 2: we're calling is the sort is going to be working
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Speaker 2: together in Alice Springs.
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Speaker 3: So it's good.
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Speaker 2: We've got government, we've got non government, we've got counsel,
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Speaker 2: we've got toos everybody at the time table holding each
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Speaker 2: other to account, Katie.
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Speaker 8: What worries me about this new sort as they're calling
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Speaker 8: it is that it's almost like it's six years too late,
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Speaker 8: Like we have been talking about this, the community has
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Speaker 8: been calling out for such a long time. All of
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Speaker 8: our leaders are as well, and in Alice Springs we
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Speaker 8: have all of those community leaders at the table, which
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Speaker 8: is what the Minister Warden described, and they're all sharing
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Speaker 8: the problems that they have and trying to cont with solutions.
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Speaker 8: I mean, I just want to know where where's the
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Speaker 8: government six years ago when this was a problem then,
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Speaker 8: and we continue to talk about this over and over.
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Speaker 8: I mean, all it is is talk. And the other
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Speaker 8: point to this is there is no point having those
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Speaker 8: meetings if government bring in legislation that's going to actually
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Speaker 8: water down the laws that the police have to operate.
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Speaker 8: We've already seen the watering down of the breach of
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Speaker 8: bail laws. We've seen the two kilometer drinking rule taken
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Speaker 8: away completely, and then we've got new legislation which has
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Speaker 8: come up now where you're going to reduce the age
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Speaker 8: of criminal responsibility, which takes a whole group of offenders
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Speaker 8: out of the mix all together, and of course reducing
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Speaker 8: plishing I should say, mandatry sentencing. So you've got the
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Speaker 8: rights of the offenders in legislation being put first and
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Speaker 8: over and above the rights are victims. So all the
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Speaker 8: talk in the world is not going to change the
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Speaker 8: way that legislation operates.
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Speaker 2: Just need to pick up there on MCB there because
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Speaker 2: I mean we've just heard.
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Speaker 4: Very affectionate I like it.
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Speaker 2: It needs.
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Speaker 3: MTV.
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Speaker 2: The two kilometer law is not abolished. You people are
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Speaker 2: doing the wrong thing within two kilometers they can't.
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Speaker 1: And but because it's being dealt with as a health
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Speaker 1: issue rather than it being a criminal issue, so people
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Speaker 1: can just drink down the street.
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Speaker 8: And there are people drinking down the street in groups
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Speaker 8: every week.
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Speaker 3: Let's make this.
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Speaker 1: Really really clear, actually this two kilometer rule, because it's
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Speaker 1: something that gets raised all the time with us on air.
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Speaker 1: We've obviously got the opposition calling for it to be reinstated.
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Speaker 1: We've got the government saying that it's already in place.
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Speaker 1: So can I just ask really blunt, like, if it's
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Speaker 1: in place, why have we still got people drinking within
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Speaker 1: two kilometers of bond shop?
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Speaker 3: Well, because it'd so.
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Speaker 2: Many can be enforced. So you know, again it has
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Speaker 2: not been abolished. It can be put in place. If
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Speaker 2: you're drinking us in kilometers within a licensed venue, you
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Speaker 2: should not be drinking.
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Speaker 1: Responsibility would it be then to stop people from drinking
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Speaker 1: in the street the police?
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Speaker 2: We have police that go out there, they tip out
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Speaker 2: and if people are doing the wrong thing, they will
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Speaker 2: arrest them as well.
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Speaker 8: So but if they're drinking, only if they're doing the
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Speaker 8: wrong thing right, so they can still drink there.
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Speaker 2: No, I just said they take you down, they tip out.
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Speaker 1: So I reckon people are going to be when they're
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Speaker 1: hearing this because there is so like, there's so many
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Speaker 1: instances where you walk through them all or you walk
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Speaker 1: through you know, the city, and there is people publicly drinking.
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Speaker 3: Honestly, we're publicly when he got to the tools.
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Speaker 1: And as a person literally had you know, I was
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Speaker 1: drinking sitting down out neath the takeaway shop, does.
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Speaker 2: That and like, but this is not a new issue.
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Speaker 2: We've always had challenges with problem public drinking here in
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Speaker 2: the Northern Territory. Are drinking two kilometers within these venues.
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Speaker 2: They can absolutely go and tip out. They can arrest
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Speaker 2: if they are playing up.
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Speaker 1: And if we just reached the point where we sort
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Speaker 1: of go, oh, well they're doing it, let them keep going.
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Speaker 2: No, they do go, they do tip out, they do
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Speaker 2: arrest that.
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Speaker 3: I agree with Nicole.
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Speaker 6: They do do it when they are there to see
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Speaker 6: the people doing what they're doing when they shouldn't be
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Speaker 6: doing it. But there's groups of people that are around
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Speaker 6: the back of Bunnings now. Some are from man and Grida,
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Speaker 6: some are from Rowan Pelly because occasion we chat to
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Speaker 6: them and whatever, and they are drinking within two kilometers
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Speaker 6: of a license outlet. But I mean they're not causing
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Speaker 6: any trouble. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, but they
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Speaker 6: are definitely within two point five kilometers of that takeaway
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Speaker 6: bottle shop near Bunnings. And that's just one isolated situation
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Speaker 6: that I know. I occasionally see people not in the
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Speaker 6: mall in Smith Street near Spilett House. They hang out
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Speaker 6: there sometimes just a little bit of grass out the
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Speaker 6: front and they've got alcoholic beverages and they're sitting there
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Speaker 6: and drinking. And that's two kilometers or two and a
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Speaker 6: half from the Woolies complex, So it is happening. I
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Speaker 6: just think there's a bit of they're not actually doing
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Speaker 6: any harm, they're not fighting. Sometimes they do, and so
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Speaker 6: they just get left alone.
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Speaker 1: So if they then, if the police do see somebody
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Speaker 1: that's drinking publicly, are they able to get their details,
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Speaker 1: see if they're on the bdr that kind of thing
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Speaker 1: as well.
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Speaker 2: They will go, they can engage, they can go talk
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Speaker 2: to people. If they need to go check details, they'll
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Speaker 2: check details like please have a raft of different powers.
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Speaker 1: All right, Look, let's step back on track, because that
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Speaker 1: is obviously another issue that we all talk about very often.
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Speaker 1: But just going back to the situation in Alice Springs,
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Speaker 1: I know that one of the big things that has
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Speaker 1: been raised with us, both by the mayor, Matt Patterson
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Speaker 1: and also by Tourism Central Australia is, you know what's
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Speaker 1: been announced by the sort. Everybody is really hopeful that
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Speaker 1: this works. They're all saying that the hope that this
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Speaker 1: is a step in the right direction, but what they
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Speaker 1: need is immediate action right now. So they need either
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Speaker 1: security patrolling the streets right now, or we need to
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Speaker 1: be in a situation. I know Matt Patterson was on
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Speaker 1: the show yesterday talking about the potential for children who
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Speaker 1: aren't safe, aren't in safe situations, if they're out on
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Speaker 1: the streets late at night, to be taken somewhere where
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Speaker 1: they can have a safe place to sleep, have something
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Speaker 1: to eat, and he'd spoken about ur Ara College, which
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Speaker 1: is one of the colleges just on the outskirts of town. Now,
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Speaker 1: my understanding is that the Urara College principle has spoken
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Speaker 1: to the NT News and said that that's not viable.
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Speaker 1: But is there another option, because what's going on right
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Speaker 1: now we're hearing it from Alice Springs is totally.
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Speaker 3: It's totally unacceptable, Katie.
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Speaker 6: What happened to the Youth's Center or the youth drop
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Speaker 6: in center or that kind of concept that was in
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Speaker 6: Alice Springs and that's where they used to take them
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Speaker 6: where they could have a sleep or a bit of
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Speaker 6: a feed, or play pool or table tennis or whatever.
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Speaker 2: There was a trial there with a few summers ago
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Speaker 2: and where we did have that available there. They did
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Speaker 2: review it, they did find it actually brought some extra
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Speaker 2: antisocial behavior around that particular spot, so that was reviewed.
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Speaker 2: This is what the sort's all about. It's about bringing
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Speaker 2: those voices to the table and looking at what other
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Speaker 2: solutions can be put in place to support the issues
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Speaker 2: in Alice Springs. We do have Salt Bush in Ala Springs,
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Speaker 2: but clearly we are listening and making sure that we
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Speaker 2: do take action on what the SORT comes to the
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Speaker 2: table with.
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Speaker 1: And so yesterday the police Minister had basically said that
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Speaker 1: she didn't want nozzle dogs walking the streets of Alice,
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Speaker 1: but why is it good for Caroma.
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Speaker 6: Good enough for Corona and Rack, but not good enough
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Speaker 6: for our springs.
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Speaker 2: And again we are listening, and you know, we're listening
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Speaker 2: to the ideas of the sort and we'll continue that corrupt.
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Speaker 1: So if the government is listening right now, what the
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Speaker 1: mayor is saying and also what tourism Centralist Australia are
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Speaker 1: saying is that they want additional resources right now, is
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Speaker 1: the government hearing that and are their plans in play
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Speaker 1: to do something from well, immediately.
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Speaker 2: You're absolutely hearing it loud and clear. We've got our
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Speaker 2: police operations with their patrols. It's getting coordinated with additional
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Speaker 2: patrols from for example, the work that we've got our
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Speaker 2: euro is doing and truancy officers doing and so far.
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Speaker 2: Also we also have security patrols that are coordinated. In
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Speaker 2: Alice Springs, we've got the council rangers, which is really
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Speaker 2: important to have them at the table. Like I said,
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Speaker 2: I applaud me and bat Patterson because it's good to
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Speaker 2: have a council that wants to work with government.
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Speaker 1: So any plans for an additional spot for kids to
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Speaker 1: be taken it because surely it's a it's a child
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Speaker 1: protection issue.
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Speaker 7: This is the thing and when you've got kids, it's
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Speaker 7: confronting when you see it in Alice Springs and when
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Speaker 7: you've got kids of that age, you're walking around at
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Speaker 7: one o'clock in the morning and they're you know, eight, nine,
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Speaker 7: ten years old. I mean, the whole argument about the
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Speaker 7: age of criminal responsibility is kind of neither here nor
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Speaker 7: they're in that situation, I reckon, Because if a kid
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Speaker 7: is ten and eleven is walking around the streets, you know,
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Speaker 7: committing crimes, you know, there's surely there is a child
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Speaker 7: protection issue there. Surely there is an issue with that
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Speaker 7: child's parents and whether they are capable and properly looking
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Speaker 7: after that child. And that's where the intervention needs to
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Speaker 7: be because once that kid's eleven and twelve, it's probably
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Speaker 7: too late, you know, like the you know, they're on
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Speaker 7: that track and they'll end up in jail. You need
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Speaker 7: an intervene when the kids.
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Speaker 3: But that's essentially what matt Patterson's saying, isn't.
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Speaker 2: Mattie's spot on? There is there is a line of
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Speaker 2: where does child protections step in? Like, none of us
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Speaker 2: here can understand why any parent could let their child
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Speaker 2: out at those hours of nights, but looking at additional
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Speaker 2: safe spaces as well is a very active conversation right now.
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Speaker 8: It's also why the cop has been saying for a
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Speaker 8: long time that we need to move youth justice out
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Speaker 8: of territory families like the correction that was so terribly
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Speaker 8: last time. The correction disaster is really a mission. And
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Speaker 8: if the child, if the child isn't and the family
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Speaker 8: of that child isn't being worked with with territory families
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Speaker 8: because they're so busy working on the youth justice side,
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Speaker 8: then there's it's failing. And we can't just keep going
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Speaker 8: back to the same old, same old. We have to
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Speaker 8: look at new solutions.
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Speaker 2: That's what you're trying to do. You're trying to go
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Speaker 2: back to the same old, same old that resulted in
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Speaker 2: a real commission.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, I do want to just touch on as well.
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Speaker 1: Obviously we've been speaking a lot about Alice Springs, and
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Speaker 1: over the last couple of weeks we have talked a
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Speaker 1: lot about Alice Springs, but I do want to just
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Speaker 1: speak about the fact that we know up here in
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Speaker 1: the top end as well, we've seen some pretty horrendous incidents.
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Speaker 3: And I'll tell you what.
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Speaker 1: On Monday or Tuesday, I think it was this week,
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Speaker 1: I had spoken to this young fella, Tim.
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Speaker 3: Who'd had he'd had his.
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Speaker 1: Bridon Joy's land Cruiser stolen from out at cdu I
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Speaker 1: believe he's the second year apprentice, you know, out doing
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Speaker 1: his studies and had his vehicle stolen. So not only
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Speaker 1: was it stolen from out there, it was then allegedly
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Speaker 1: used in that ram ray at Berry Springs Tavern, which
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Speaker 1: we spoke to Ian Sloan on the show about last week,
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Speaker 1: and that was an emotional and pretty sad discussion to have.
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Speaker 3: So not only was it stolen and allegedly.
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Speaker 1: Used in that ram ray, it was then also stolen
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Speaker 1: from the compound out in what air the police compound.
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Speaker 1: It was pinched from there again and rammed through the
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Speaker 1: police compound gate, causing signific property damage. Now there have
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Speaker 1: indeed been a number of people arrested following on from
17:04
Speaker 1: that incident. But it just, you know, it's just unbelievable.
17:08
Speaker 1: You think, imagine being a second year apprentice, he probably earned.
17:11
Speaker 6: Law and he probably lost some tools out of that
17:13
Speaker 6: car too, or personal possessions through his trade. But the
17:17
Speaker 6: fact that these and they were males because you could
17:19
Speaker 6: see it on the video breaking into as anything. Yeah,
17:22
Speaker 6: and they had the audacity to go into the police complex,
17:26
Speaker 6: climbo the fence presumably hot while the car again and
17:28
Speaker 6: smash it out, So to me, it's clear that they
17:30
Speaker 6: are off on another rampage somewhere and they have been arrested,
17:34
Speaker 6: and I'm pretty sure I read that they've been held
17:35
Speaker 6: in custody and that the test will be what charges
17:40
Speaker 6: they you know, are levied at them, and whether they
17:42
Speaker 6: do any time or what punishment they received. But clearly,
17:45
Speaker 6: and this has happened time and time again, not just
17:47
Speaker 6: here and Dawn, but elsewhere in the territory, there is
17:49
Speaker 6: blatant disregard and respect for other people's property and for
17:53
Speaker 6: the law. You know, they don't even worry about covering
17:55
Speaker 6: their heads anymore, they just know that.
17:57
Speaker 3: There's some strong language from the police as well.
18:00
Speaker 1: Detective Seeing is Sergeant Mark Bland, who has been a
18:02
Speaker 1: police officer for an awfully long time, a very highly
18:05
Speaker 1: respected one.
18:06
Speaker 3: Yeah run strident.
18:07
Speaker 1: He'd said this group's caused distress to local business owners
18:10
Speaker 1: and it's simply not fair that the community has to
18:13
Speaker 1: endure this type of behavior.
18:14
Speaker 2: And I spot on. I think that's reflective like this
18:18
Speaker 2: they've got to go to court, clearly, but I think
18:21
Speaker 2: we're all quite astounded by that vision. And I'm so
18:25
Speaker 2: glad that police have caught up with them and they
18:27
Speaker 2: can go through the court process. So thank you please,
18:29
Speaker 2: because what they did was completely unacceptable, and pour in
18:34
Speaker 2: and lea on what they've gone through with their business
18:36
Speaker 2: and their staff absolutely unacceptable.
18:39
Speaker 8: And at the end of the day, I mean, our
18:41
Speaker 8: community just does not feel safe anymore.
18:43
Speaker 4: They really don't. It doesn't matter where you go in
18:45
Speaker 4: the territory.
18:46
Speaker 8: You speak to territorians, whether they're working or they're running
18:48
Speaker 8: a business, even to our tourists that I get to
18:51
Speaker 8: catch up with sometimes, and they just don't feel safe.
18:54
Speaker 8: And what we need is a government to come forward
18:56
Speaker 8: with legislation which puts the rights of victims and society
19:00
Speaker 8: well above the rights of offenders, so that the message
19:02
Speaker 8: is loud and clear that if they do that, if
19:05
Speaker 8: they break the law, then they're not going to get
19:06
Speaker 8: away with it. Because without law and order in our society,
19:10
Speaker 8: nothing else functions. We can't have good healthcare, we can't
19:12
Speaker 8: have good education, nothing else happens. We can't get tourists
19:15
Speaker 8: to come here, and that is why it is so
19:17
Speaker 8: important this government puts that as its number one priority.
19:19
Speaker 8: And so far or we've seen as actually the opposite,
19:22
Speaker 8: absolute garbage.
19:23
Speaker 1: We are going to have to wrap up, have a
19:25
Speaker 1: bit of a break and when we come back there
19:26
Speaker 1: is a lot to discuss, including will Santos pulling the
19:30
Speaker 1: pin from the Darwen Festival.
19:32
Speaker 3: If you've just joined us, it.
19:33
Speaker 1: Is the week that was and in the studio this
19:35
Speaker 1: morning is Mary Clair boothby Kesier Puric, Nicole Madison and
19:39
Speaker 1: Matt Cunningham. Now throughout the week you would have certainly
19:43
Speaker 1: heard we were talking about earlier in the week that
19:45
Speaker 1: Australian energy producer Santos has ended its twenty plus year
19:49
Speaker 1: sponsorship of the Darwen Festival. So let us sent to
19:53
Speaker 1: the festival chair in Q on Tuesday revealed that the
19:55
Speaker 1: company took the step when it learned that an alternative
19:58
Speaker 1: festival funding source had been found. Now the festival which runs,
20:03
Speaker 1: of course, well it ran last year from the August
20:06
Speaker 1: four to twenty one earlier, Yeah, last year it was yeah,
20:11
Speaker 1: it receives no sorry earlier this year I can't even
20:14
Speaker 1: remember wherein Yes, it receives one hundred thousand dollars sponsorship
20:18
Speaker 1: annually from the South Australian based resources company. Now Santos
20:22
Speaker 1: first sponsored the Darwin Festival back in nineteen ninety six.
20:25
Speaker 1: Now Santos obviously sponsors the opening night concert. It is
20:31
Speaker 1: a huge concert each and every year. It means that
20:35
Speaker 1: people can go for free, they can go and be
20:37
Speaker 1: parting revisionous artists. And what's happened here is we've got
20:42
Speaker 1: a situation where where a group of.
20:47
Speaker 3: Environmentalists have come out and is that what you call it, well,
20:53
Speaker 3: and you know, a bunch of dropkicks, well activists, I
20:55
Speaker 3: guess you'd say they.
20:56
Speaker 1: Have and they've basically I would call it that they're threatening.
21:00
Speaker 1: I would say that they're threatening the Darwin Festival. And
21:03
Speaker 1: basically now have said, look, we can find an alternative
21:07
Speaker 1: funding source for you only for one hundred thousand dollars.
21:09
Speaker 3: Because let's be really blunt about this, and I want
21:11
Speaker 3: to be really clear.
21:12
Speaker 1: I used to be on the Darwin Festival board, so
21:15
Speaker 1: for the sake of disclosure, I was on there. I'm
21:17
Speaker 1: no longer on that board. I stepped off last year.
21:21
Speaker 1: But the festival receives funding from various different organizations and
21:26
Speaker 1: it needs to be able to actually put on the
21:29
Speaker 1: wonderful event that it is.
21:31
Speaker 3: It needs that funding now.
21:32
Speaker 1: The reason it needs that funding in addition to some
21:35
Speaker 1: funding from the Northern territory government is so that it
21:37
Speaker 1: can put on an event that tourists come to that
21:39
Speaker 1: territorians can enjoy. And that's so we're in a situation
21:43
Speaker 1: where it's sustainable itself.
21:45
Speaker 6: And to make classy acting from overseas as well as
21:48
Speaker 6: that try.
21:49
Speaker 1: Six years ago it's fantastic. Six years ago though it wasn't.
21:54
Speaker 1: It went broke. And this is the reason why they're
21:57
Speaker 1: in a situation now where it is financially sustainable is
22:00
Speaker 1: they've had to make some very prudent decisions and had
22:02
Speaker 1: to be quite savvy about the way in which it
22:05
Speaker 1: is funded and the way in which it operates. I
22:08
Speaker 1: thought it was pretty disgraceful earlier in the week when
22:10
Speaker 1: I'd seen this unfold.
22:12
Speaker 2: Absolutely disgraceful. What are absolutely disgraceful? Sorry, I just got
22:17
Speaker 2: to get a few of my thoughts out on the table, Katie,
22:19
Speaker 2: because I'm furious. I'm ropeable at this one.
22:22
Speaker 6: Run them out of town, kicks.
22:25
Speaker 2: What I will say is that your spot on the
22:28
Speaker 2: festival is an absolute success. It is financially stable, It
22:33
Speaker 2: gets tourists here, locals love it, and that is because
22:36
Speaker 2: of the amazing work of the back Comitty that bought
22:40
Speaker 2: and the leadership of I and Q. They picked the
22:43
Speaker 2: right people to run the darn festival and they all
22:46
Speaker 2: put their shoulders to the wheel. And now this week
22:48
Speaker 2: I've heard the most disgraceful comments here, absolute disgraceful comments
22:54
Speaker 2: from these people external to the festival.
22:58
Speaker 5: Are they really territory or the mesolutely And.
23:01
Speaker 2: Just what made my bloodball the most was the things
23:05
Speaker 2: that they were saying about good hard working volunteers that
23:09
Speaker 2: make the festival a success, and the fact that they
23:12
Speaker 2: are trying to remove them and they are disgraced. Their
23:14
Speaker 2: comments have been absolutely arrogant, out of touch. They've been
23:17
Speaker 2: just throwing around like one hundred thousand dollars is no money.
23:20
Speaker 2: One hundred thousand dollars go ask any festival here in
23:23
Speaker 2: the territory, any any major event organizations, a huge dred.
23:28
Speaker 2: Thousand dollars is a huge amount of money in the
23:30
Speaker 2: Northern Territory. And I think the disgraceful comments made by
23:35
Speaker 2: this organization attacking the festival and attacking these individuals, they
23:39
Speaker 2: should hang their heads in shame, like absolute shame.
23:42
Speaker 6: I saw Nicole Minister's comments about or on TV about
23:47
Speaker 6: you know how these people had basically said, oh, there
23:49
Speaker 6: needs to be a spill of the board and the
23:51
Speaker 6: chairman Ian Q and casm Tilmount, who's the CEO of
23:54
Speaker 6: the Minerals Council, should step down and step away.
23:56
Speaker 3: So because of an association.
23:58
Speaker 6: With the mindles and the patrolling industry Luggy and Q
24:00
Speaker 6: has had a past involvement with a petroleum company, one
24:03
Speaker 6: of the well known ones, but that was like twenty
24:05
Speaker 6: five years ago before his time last week.
24:08
Speaker 3: I agree with you.
24:09
Speaker 6: So where do these people get off trying to threaten
24:12
Speaker 6: the board of the festival threaten probably the anti governor
24:15
Speaker 6: as well because of their touchy feely Oh we can't
24:18
Speaker 6: have fossil fuels, Well, give up your car, give up
24:21
Speaker 6: your jewelry, give up your electronic appliances, give up your
24:23
Speaker 6: smart watchers, don't wear runners because runners come predominantly from
24:27
Speaker 6: petroleum products. Like they are just living in a world
24:30
Speaker 6: that is just not realistic. And I agree with Nicole.
24:32
Speaker 6: It's a disgrace that they picked on two individuals to
24:36
Speaker 6: buddy quit what they've been doing so well for so
24:38
Speaker 6: many years.
24:39
Speaker 7: And just the irony of saying that we're doing this
24:42
Speaker 7: in support with traditional owners and First Nations people and
24:46
Speaker 7: then without drawing breath.
24:48
Speaker 5: So they want Catherine Tilmouth kicked off the day on festival.
24:50
Speaker 3: Board, who's a proud Indigenous woman.
24:52
Speaker 6: It's just extraordinary.
24:56
Speaker 5: The Dawn Festival.
24:57
Speaker 7: I feel really sorry for the festival and the board
24:59
Speaker 7: because they're having a gun held to their head in
25:02
Speaker 7: this situation. I've got the letter here that was sent
25:05
Speaker 7: to the Darwin Festival by the McKinnon Family Foundation. It
25:09
Speaker 7: is which is a Sydney based philanthropic organization in and
25:16
Speaker 7: it's with the support of four different other foundations, the
25:19
Speaker 7: Graham Wood Foundation, Lenco Family Foundation, Oranges and Sardines Foundation
25:23
Speaker 7: and e Fie Invest Foundation f Invest Foundation. Anyway, in
25:28
Speaker 7: this letter, they're saying we'll give you one hundred thousand
25:30
Speaker 7: dollars over the next two years, which is what Santos contributes, right,
25:35
Speaker 7: but only over the next two years at this stage.
25:38
Speaker 7: But there are conditions attached, and the conditions are the
25:41
Speaker 7: offera is made on the understanding that the Darwen Festival
25:44
Speaker 7: end its relationship with Santos and other fossil fuel companies
25:48
Speaker 7: in time for the twenty twenty three festival. Now there
25:53
Speaker 7: is also a sponsor. My understanding is to the tune
25:55
Speaker 7: of one hundred thousand dollars. So this great opportunity, as
25:58
Speaker 7: the activist described to he's going to custom two hundred
26:01
Speaker 7: thousand dollars over the next two years, and then what
26:05
Speaker 7: happens in two years time, because this letter also says right,
26:08
Speaker 7: it says, depending on action from the board, we would
26:12
Speaker 7: be happy to discuss ongoing support beyond this time frame.
26:16
Speaker 7: So basically, you submit to all of our demands. You
26:18
Speaker 7: can tell what the demands are going to be. They're
26:20
Speaker 7: already calling for Ian Q and Catherine Tilmouth to be
26:22
Speaker 7: kicked off the board, right, So what you've got to
26:24
Speaker 7: kick anyone who's ever had a link to the oil
26:26
Speaker 7: and gas industry off the board, You've got to They
26:29
Speaker 7: also want them to sign up to some kind of
26:31
Speaker 7: ethical sponsorship arrangement, promising that they'll never have sponsorship for
26:35
Speaker 7: anyone who what their moral police deem to be unworthy.
26:39
Speaker 5: I'm sure the Anti News will be kicked off as
26:41
Speaker 5: a sponsor soon enough.
26:44
Speaker 6: Call nine all of us, honestly, because Anti newsprint story
26:47
Speaker 6: about petrolomy. Now, let's take I don't know if a
26:49
Speaker 6: company like a legal film like Ward Keller is a sponsor,
26:53
Speaker 6: but Ward Keller has got a lot of patrolum the
26:55
Speaker 6: Mirning clients. I know that because Kevin Stevens is the
26:57
Speaker 6: boss and he's an exceptional mining lawyer. Now, if they're
27:01
Speaker 6: a sponsor, are they going to say, oh, we don't
27:03
Speaker 6: want ward that thing?
27:05
Speaker 1: I should Why should the Darwin Festival have a gun
27:09
Speaker 1: held to their head? But I had an external group
27:12
Speaker 1: that why should they have any control or why should
27:16
Speaker 1: they actually have any right to determine who or who
27:19
Speaker 1: doesn't sponsor the Darwin Festival? And I might add that
27:23
Speaker 1: the Darwin Festival has had the most successful years that
27:26
Speaker 1: they've ever had few years through COVID, that team had
27:31
Speaker 1: to change the program.
27:33
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
27:34
Speaker 1: Many times last year they would have already locked in
27:37
Speaker 1: different acts for next year. The planning that goes in
27:40
Speaker 1: to that festival years in advance, it goes years in advantage.
27:45
Speaker 2: But the reason why it is successful is because there
27:48
Speaker 2: are good local people running the show that are passionate
27:53
Speaker 2: about it, that want it to succeed, and they have succeeded.
27:57
Speaker 1: Again, can I ask if the boar so if we
28:00
Speaker 1: wind up in a situation here where you know, where
28:03
Speaker 1: all fossil fuel sponsorships are pulled from the Dough and Festival.
28:07
Speaker 1: Is the government prepared to prop up the Dough and
28:09
Speaker 1: Festival in two years time when the philanthropic organizations no
28:13
Speaker 1: longer decide that they want to support the festival.
28:15
Speaker 3: If that happens, we want the don Festival to succeed.
28:18
Speaker 2: We've always given them good sponsorship to work with them. However,
28:22
Speaker 2: we shouldn't be in this position. They should be able
28:24
Speaker 2: to know all about follow good corporate governance, good governance
28:27
Speaker 2: running a bloody festival and get the right sponsors who
28:30
Speaker 2: are going to back them in and make it financially sustainable.
28:34
Speaker 2: People want these things to be self sustaining. So again
28:37
Speaker 2: why this is ridiculous, But I'm getting really frustrated Katie,
28:40
Speaker 2: because we've seen this activism go right across the board.
28:43
Speaker 2: And yes I am a passionate resources minister, but people
28:46
Speaker 2: have got to get real about this energy transition. We
28:50
Speaker 2: all want to see the planet powered by renewable energy.
28:53
Speaker 2: We all want to see the issue of climate change tackled.
28:56
Speaker 2: But you can't do it overnight. You need to transition
29:00
Speaker 2: and if these people and again nothing more than frustrateds
29:04
Speaker 2: means to see a you know, a busted up old
29:05
Speaker 2: bloody land cruiser or or Prato with an anty fracking
29:08
Speaker 2: sticker on it, sitting in a car park and.
29:11
Speaker 6: You see metal from the mining industry.
29:14
Speaker 2: You go, come on, guys, if you want solar panels,
29:17
Speaker 2: wind turbines, batteries, you actually need to mind those resources.
29:20
Speaker 2: And they're here in the territory.
29:21
Speaker 4: I really, colleagues, hope they're listening.
29:25
Speaker 2: You want to get to a cleaner, greener future, We've
29:28
Speaker 2: got those materials here in the Outhern Territory and that
29:30
Speaker 2: energy transition. People need to be able to afford to
29:32
Speaker 2: turn the lights on. People need to be able to
29:35
Speaker 2: afford the price of power. It's a big cost of
29:37
Speaker 2: living pressure. The best way to get there to that
29:39
Speaker 2: transition to renewable energy in a safe, secure and affordable
29:42
Speaker 2: way is gas and you take cole out. That's next
29:45
Speaker 2: phase out, and then eventually gas will go that injury.
29:48
Speaker 8: But it's.
29:51
Speaker 2: You they're hitting themselves that they don't think that most
29:53
Speaker 2: things they use everyday life haven't had some component of
29:56
Speaker 2: gas to do it.
29:56
Speaker 1: And do you know what stopped making people? Also stopping
30:01
Speaker 1: to tend for that, Chief Minister, but stop making people
30:08
Speaker 1: also that work in the resources industry. We've got some
30:11
Speaker 1: bloody wonderful territories that work in the resource industry, back.
30:14
Speaker 2: Local events, stoking and on their table now the good
30:19
Speaker 2: quality of life because they get good quality jobs in
30:22
Speaker 2: that sector.
30:23
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly I'm with the one hundred percent.
30:30
Speaker 7: Now.
30:30
Speaker 6: I think there's two issues here that have been forged
30:33
Speaker 6: into one issue by these blowings from down south. They
30:37
Speaker 6: are targeting the festival and the artists and everyone associated
30:42
Speaker 6: with that, and they've got their climate change argument over here.
30:45
Speaker 6: They're trying to merge the two to make them look
30:48
Speaker 6: like they're the saviors of our planet, which they're not.
30:51
Speaker 6: They're hypocrites, and I've said that before. They are the
30:53
Speaker 6: biggest hypocrites around. I have never been a hypocrite. I'm
30:56
Speaker 6: living the col I'm a huge support of the resources industry,
30:59
Speaker 6: doesn't matter what kind of resources it is now to
31:03
Speaker 6: use our day on festival and I know some of
31:06
Speaker 6: the people on the board, and I've been to a
31:08
Speaker 6: couple of the events, not as many as perhaps you have, Katie,
31:10
Speaker 6: but have enjoyed my time there. And it's a long
31:12
Speaker 6: history and I for one know the history of Sandos
31:15
Speaker 6: in the Northern Territory, and they have done a lot
31:17
Speaker 6: for the Northern Territory in more ways than what people realize.
31:19
Speaker 6: And that's perhaps part of their issue is they haven't
31:21
Speaker 6: they haven't been forward in their education and their information
31:24
Speaker 6: about what they've done for the Northern Territory. But these
31:27
Speaker 6: people should pack up their little lefty bags and go
31:29
Speaker 6: back to Sydney because one they're not wanted and two
31:32
Speaker 6: they're definitely not needed. Now I'm sure Ian Q, with
31:35
Speaker 6: his expertise and knowledge and skill set, they will find
31:39
Speaker 6: replacement sponsors. We don't want their money, we don't want
31:41
Speaker 6: their dirty lefty money. They can take that back to
31:43
Speaker 6: Sydney and go and go and find some Where's that
31:46
Speaker 6: festival Nimber or somewhere they go and take your money
31:49
Speaker 6: down to Nimber. Because it's a private sector that helps
31:52
Speaker 6: this festival do what it's done. And it's only done
31:54
Speaker 6: that because of the composition and the board members.
31:58
Speaker 1: You know, several years ago when things were dial calling
32:02
Speaker 1: to take over the Darwin Festival.
32:04
Speaker 2: Exactly when the hardest of times have just been through
32:06
Speaker 2: through COVID, when just keeping events going was so hard,
32:11
Speaker 2: these sponsors have stood through through thick and currant ye
32:15
Speaker 2: match turned.
32:20
Speaker 7: I was only going to say that it needs to
32:22
Speaker 7: be pointed out that it wasn't the Darwin Festival's decision
32:25
Speaker 7: to boot out Santas. Right, this letter gets sent to
32:27
Speaker 7: Santos after the Darlin Festival receives it, fair enough and
32:30
Speaker 7: they say, hey, Santos, we've received Santos says, all right,
32:33
Speaker 7: we're out and you can't blame Santos. Why would you
32:35
Speaker 7: want to sponsor an event where where people are telling
32:39
Speaker 7: you we don't want your money?
32:40
Speaker 5: How I have connect with what about Impacts? Have written this?
32:44
Speaker 5: But this is what's next? Right?
32:45
Speaker 7: And I don't even know whether these Impacts is not
32:47
Speaker 7: mentioned in the letter, and I don't know whether whether
32:50
Speaker 7: these people knew that Impacts was a major sponsor as well.
32:53
Speaker 7: But the letter is clear, no fossil fuel sponsorship. Right,
32:56
Speaker 7: two hundred thousand dollars over the next two years on
32:58
Speaker 7: the condition of no fossil fuel sponsorship.
33:00
Speaker 6: I just think no institute go back to the stri.
33:03
Speaker 5: All the festivals in a no win position.
33:05
Speaker 3: This is the hard part because what.
33:06
Speaker 5: Does it do.
33:07
Speaker 7: Does it take that two hundred thousand dollars, It's still
33:09
Speaker 7: going to be two hundred thousand dollars down.
33:11
Speaker 6: No, But you know if they called out to the
33:12
Speaker 6: private sector, look at the darn festival. If you want
33:15
Speaker 6: promotion and you want to keep improving your social license
33:19
Speaker 6: to operate, look at it a function and the people
33:22
Speaker 6: of the festival as a way to have an engagement
33:25
Speaker 6: in a community partnership, you know, thanks to myself.
33:27
Speaker 1: If the you know, if these if this group isn't
33:29
Speaker 1: happy with the way in which the festival is operating,
33:32
Speaker 1: start your own.
33:33
Speaker 7: And the great irony, Katie, is that in two years
33:35
Speaker 7: time the festival will probably have to go cap in
33:38
Speaker 7: hand to the anti government and be bailed out on
33:41
Speaker 7: royalties from the gas industry and the mining royalties that
33:45
Speaker 7: we received from Western Australian taxpayers.
33:47
Speaker 1: So like so it's going to end up in the
33:49
Speaker 1: same situation. Well, look, let's all take a moment to
33:53
Speaker 1: calm down. We'll have a bit of a break, pay
33:55
Speaker 1: the bills and we're more than happy for Santos to
33:57
Speaker 1: sponsor the show.
33:58
Speaker 3: If they'd like to.
33:59
Speaker 1: Eight nine four one one four nine is the number
34:01
Speaker 1: if you do want to call through this morning. But
34:03
Speaker 1: we'll take a bit of a break and when we
34:05
Speaker 1: come back there's still plenty more to discuss. You are
34:07
Speaker 1: listening to Mix one O four nine's three sixty. I'm
34:10
Speaker 1: not sure if we've calmed down yet, but let's get
34:12
Speaker 1: back into it. It is just fourteen minutes away from
34:14
Speaker 1: ten o'clock, not for my niches, So all right, let's go.
34:21
Speaker 1: Let's have a talk about these e scooter injuries very quickly,
34:24
Speaker 1: if we may, because there's been this new study that's
34:27
Speaker 1: highlighted the significant impact that e scooters are having on
34:30
Speaker 1: the top Ends health system, with one hundred presentations to
34:33
Speaker 1: the emergency department in eight months.
34:35
Speaker 2: Now.
34:36
Speaker 1: The thing that is obviously quite interesting is of those
34:39
Speaker 1: all of who were admitted to hospital were intoxicated while riding.
34:43
Speaker 3: What a surprise.
34:45
Speaker 1: I really like the e scooters. Can I just put
34:47
Speaker 1: that out there right from the get go. I think
34:48
Speaker 1: it's a good initiative, that it's something a bit different.
34:51
Speaker 1: You see people zipping around all over the place, but
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Speaker 1: it's just once you had a few bevyes, don't get
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Speaker 1: on an e scooter.
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Speaker 3: I think, what's the.
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Speaker 5: Only time I ever get.
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Speaker 6: Watch I've never them, but literally about them is they
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Speaker 6: have solid ties. They don't have humatic ties, so when
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Speaker 6: they hit the curve, there's no bounce, so they just
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Speaker 6: hit the curb.
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Speaker 4: When the people on them are.
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Speaker 1: Pist they go, So I impact this is having do
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Speaker 1: you think financially?
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Speaker 3: You know, when you talk about the Hell's system bill
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Speaker 3: bill first, I think.
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Speaker 2: They I want to talk about the positives and then
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Speaker 2: I'll talk about the negatives.
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Speaker 3: So so, look, they are definitely for gold.
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Speaker 7: Don't mind out that they don't run on gas or
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Speaker 7: any petrochemicals.
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Speaker 6: But they're made from metal.
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Speaker 2: Okay, come on, people, So so first, they're definitely added
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Speaker 2: to the vibrancy of Darwin.
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Speaker 5: They do.
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Speaker 2: They're a pretty effective mechanism for getting people to a
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Speaker 2: to b in a very hot, sticky tropical climate, particularly
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Speaker 2: this year. It's a beautiful thing in the dry season,
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Speaker 2: watching everybody around it. But people have got to take
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Speaker 2: a bit of personal responsibility on these things. Don't get
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Speaker 2: on them if you're pissed, do not get on them
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Speaker 2: if you've had a few. We are, we're constantly having
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Speaker 2: a look at how they are operating. They are still
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Speaker 2: relatively new, and making sure that we do keep up
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Speaker 2: with with changes as we see fit. But I mean,
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Speaker 2: I think they've added a really positive, vibrant part to Darwin.
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Speaker 2: But again, people need to take a bit of self
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Speaker 2: responsibility on these things and do the right thing, take
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Speaker 2: care of yourself and take care of the other people around.
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Speaker 1: We need to make them slow down between the hours
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Speaker 1: of midnight before I am or something like that.
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Speaker 7: Looking at that, I reckon Mana is right that you
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Speaker 7: can't legislate against stupidity, like and you know, if you're
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Speaker 7: stupid enough to get on it drunk and go it
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Speaker 7: flat out, you know you probably.
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Speaker 8: I heard someone say something like if the footpaths were
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Speaker 8: in better condition than maybe the the rasons, which is
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Speaker 8: probably a bit stretch, but I think they're they're great.
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Speaker 8: They're great for Darwin. You know, it just helps with,
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Speaker 8: like you say, people getting.
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Speaker 5: Around being sticky.
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Speaker 8: I think if we're going to focus on hospital presentations,
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Speaker 8: we've got a lot more serious things that we should
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Speaker 8: be looking at in terms of you know, alcohol abuse,
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Speaker 8: violence and things like that.
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Speaker 5: So that's right.
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Speaker 7: Even in that case, it's the alcohol, not the scooter
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Speaker 7: that's probably fault exactly.
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Speaker 8: It's a bit like I remember Minister Warden saying that
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Speaker 8: in our spring shopping trolleys need to be dealt with,
37:23
Speaker 8: need to be put away because it causes crime. Whereas
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Speaker 8: you know, obviously it's not the shopping trolley's fault. It's
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Speaker 8: actually the criminals that.
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Speaker 4: It's their fault.
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Speaker 8: So yes, definitely we should be keeping experience and any
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Speaker 8: all of these nanny state rules that go on.
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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's personal responsibility.
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Speaker 1: Well, and surely we can all, you know, we all
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Speaker 1: try our best to be responsible. Sometimes it's a little
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Speaker 1: bit more difficult than other times, but that's I agree.
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Speaker 1: I think there's no point in getting rid of them.
37:47
Speaker 1: People seem to use someone see people scooting around to
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Speaker 1: get to work, and you know, in between beach markets.
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Speaker 2: I just always love seeing them lined up there and
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Speaker 2: just remembering a long time ago being a backpacker, you
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Speaker 2: just go, yeah, what a nice experience that would be
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Speaker 2: to visit on your scooter en off you go along the.
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Speaker 6: Cart and government give them a bill at the hospital.
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Speaker 6: I don't know, but if they present a hospital and
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Speaker 6: they've clearly had a scooter action and they're pissed, but.
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Speaker 5: Where do you draw the line on that?
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Speaker 3: Well, that's right then should anyone.
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Speaker 5: Who's in hospital for an incident where.
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Speaker 3: They're books right?
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Speaker 6: Number thought, maybe the government talks with the company that
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Speaker 6: owns the scooters and comes to some arrangement where an
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Speaker 6: extra fee is put onto the scooter higher and that
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Speaker 6: fee then is somehow given to the hospital coverent or
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Speaker 6: to the hospital to pay for the tennance.
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Speaker 3: There's ways around.
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Speaker 6: We just got to think, well, if it starts to
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Speaker 6: hit people in their hip pocket, then they might be
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Speaker 6: a little bit more sensible.
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Speaker 1: Maybe we could ask Santos if they want to sponsor
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Speaker 1: the scooters.
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Speaker 3: Sponsor the scooters.
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Speaker 1: Well, take a very short break. You're this thing to
38:52
Speaker 1: mix one O four nine's three sixty. We're fast running
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Speaker 1: out of time this morning. If you've just joined us,
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Speaker 1: well you've missed a few massive rants by all of
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Speaker 1: us today Nicole Madison, Keseyer Puric and Mariy Clare Boothby
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Speaker 1: or cimb Sorry. Now, something interesting that did happen throughout
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Speaker 1: the week is well the bomb trying to do a
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Speaker 1: rebrand now. Obviously the Environment Minister Tanya Plebasek shot down
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Speaker 1: the Bureau of Meteorology's request for people not to call
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Speaker 1: it the bomb, saying Australians should be free to call
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Speaker 1: it whatever they like. As the full cost of that
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Speaker 1: rebrand was revealed two hundred and twenty thousand dollars, including
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Speaker 1: cash to update the organization's visual style and logo, conduct research,
39:42
Speaker 1: develop pull up manners, and support media engagement. If they'd
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Speaker 1: done that research first, they'd have found that nobody wanted
39:48
Speaker 1: the name change.
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Speaker 6: I think some public servant, no disrespect to our public
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Speaker 6: serviance here in the church, because they're all good people.
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Speaker 4: Some bright public servant.
39:56
Speaker 6: Down in camera where they're not so bright, came up
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Speaker 6: with a thought bubble that, oh, let's have a rehash
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Speaker 6: of our brand because some poor bugger that's gone to
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Speaker 6: Barley can't download Bomb because it's Bomb, Like why are
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Speaker 6: you looking at a weather for Australia when you're in Bali?
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Speaker 7: Like seriously, I love There was one excuse that got
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Speaker 7: around that said that it was because Australians seemed to
40:17
Speaker 7: be confused about who to turn to for weather information,
40:20
Speaker 7: and yet in the same breath they were saying, don't
40:22
Speaker 7: call us the weather bureau, like just call it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Katiel, it's a winning brands brand, Yeah, is it?
40:30
Speaker 2: All I want the BOMB to be focused on is
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Speaker 2: giving me accurate weather predictions and weather forecast?
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Speaker 5: All want them.
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Speaker 2: Focused on their call business maker. I guess what, It's
40:42
Speaker 2: a winning brand.
40:42
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that.
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Speaker 8: I mean, all Australians are struggling with the cost of
40:46
Speaker 8: living and if they're going to go and spend hundreds
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Speaker 8: of thousands of dollars for a decision to change branding,
40:51
Speaker 8: it's just ridiculous. I mean, there are so many bigger
40:54
Speaker 8: things that we need to be worrying about right across Australia.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely, two hundred and fifty thousand that they were going
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Speaker 6: to spend on rebranding Bomb, they could give it to
41:01
Speaker 6: the darn Festivalgy could be a major spons in all seriousness.
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Speaker 1: The fact that they tried to announce this as well
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Speaker 1: throughout terrible flooding in other states was actually the disgracefulness stupid.
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Speaker 5: It's a bit like the old nickname rule when you're
41:19
Speaker 5: a kid.
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Speaker 7: If you don't want to be if you don't want
41:21
Speaker 7: to be called by a nickname, don't let people know
41:23
Speaker 7: so you don't like that, and it's like MCB over
41:25
Speaker 7: here forever you let people know that you didn't like
41:35
Speaker 7: a nickname, that people would call you that was your
41:37
Speaker 7: nickname forever.
41:38
Speaker 5: It was like, yeah, yeah, you've got it forever.
41:40
Speaker 7: In a new world these days, where you know, you
41:43
Speaker 7: say I want to be called whatever and that's what
41:45
Speaker 7: people have to call you, so like, I don't know, it's.
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Speaker 8: Just it was just insensitive of them in a way,
41:49
Speaker 8: isn't it because of all this awful weather.
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Speaker 3: And then we go, oh, let's change that. Let's let's
41:54
Speaker 3: announce a rebrand now thinking.
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Speaker 2: About marketing even just an absolute stuff ye like and
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Speaker 2: glad to hear that the Federal Minister's got someone is
42:03
Speaker 2: just someone's been hold should be absolutely everyone in the
42:07
Speaker 2: country has had a good laugh. And guess what everyone
42:09
Speaker 2: still thinks it's the bomb.
42:10
Speaker 3: It's the calling it that they will they most certainly will. Well,
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Speaker 3: we've run out of.
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Speaker 1: Time this morning. Great to have you all in the
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Speaker 1: studio with us. Matt Cunningham from Sky News, thank.
42:19
Speaker 7: You, thanks Wolfe and great to see the under ten
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Speaker 7: girls footy kickoff on Monday night. It was amazing and
42:27
Speaker 7: maybe we could get Santosh.
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Speaker 3: Well maybe the whole comp Yes, I don't think so.
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Speaker 3: Nicole Madison, the Deputy chief finish, thank.
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Speaker 2: You, Thanks Katie, and I just want to say a
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Speaker 2: big shout out to Wanuri Primary School. They did the
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Speaker 2: most amazing cultural festival last night.
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Speaker 3: I'm so proud of them.
42:45
Speaker 2: Thank you for celebrating what is the greatest thing about
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Speaker 2: dull and multiculturalism? Just so beautiful, well done.
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Speaker 5: One Gury Primary.
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Speaker 3: Kisier Puric the member for Good. Thank Katie, lovely to
42:54
Speaker 3: have you in the studios always.
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Speaker 1: And Murray Claire Boothby mc beck, thank you very much
42:59
Speaker 1: for your time this morning.
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Speaker 8: I just want to give a shout out to Total
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Speaker 8: Recreation who are doing their dancing with the celebrities on
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Speaker 8: Saturday nights. So are you Yes, It's my third time
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Speaker 8: doing it, so I'm actually hoping to take the win also.
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Speaker 4: But I'll tell you what, You've got to do a
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Speaker 4: lot of rehearsals.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, can you tell me very quickly? Dan and sair
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Speaker 1: b Any Good that are on Brecky here at Mix.
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Speaker 1: Have they been quite good with their rehearsals.
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Speaker 3: I don't know.
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Speaker 8: Maybe I'll film them for you please.
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Speaker 4: So I'm a lot of fun and it's a great cause.
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Speaker 4: It definitely helps them out a lot wonderful stuff.
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Speaker 1: Well, lovely to have you all in this studio this morning.
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for your time. You have been listening
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Speaker 1: to Mix one O four nine's week that was