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- 0:00Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
- 0:07Speaker 2: A bride to be murdered a week before her wedding.
- 0:12Speaker 3: We're gonna find out what happened.
- 0:14Speaker 4: Somebody wanted her dead?
- 0:16Speaker 5: Who did it?
- 0:17Speaker 2: Who the hell did it?
- 0:19Speaker 3: If you had any suspicions, would you tell us?
- 0:22Speaker 6: Yeah, because if you'll find out I knew.
- 0:26Speaker 2: Can detectives get a confession or will it cold blooded
- 0:29Speaker 2: killer go free?
- 0:32Speaker 3: Don't lie for him?
- 0:34Speaker 4: Well, we just needed, really that one person to finally.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Break investigators searching for answers in the interrogation room.
- 0:46Speaker 7: This is probably the most important moment of your life.
- 0:59Speaker 8: Every suspect accused of a crime has the right to
- 1:02Speaker 8: remain silent. Many agree to be interrogated anyway, but they
- 1:06Speaker 8: can stop the interview at any moment, making it a
- 1:10Speaker 8: race against time. Justice hangs in the balance.
- 1:25Speaker 9: And yeah, I have my answers. I just so often
- 1:32Speaker 9: I echistan and I saw shes right on the kist.
- 1:40Speaker 9: Okay is that moving?
- 1:45Speaker 10: What is your name?
- 1:46Speaker 9: Iman?
- 1:49Speaker 5: Let me help?
- 1:50Speaker 9: Okay here.
- 1:58Speaker 11: When we arrived on scene and the fire department, we
- 2:01Speaker 11: advised on the radio that they had gone in and
- 2:03Speaker 11: backed out because they had found a bullet casing next
- 2:09Speaker 11: to the body.
- 2:11Speaker 3: The women that had token, drops of blood.
- 2:14Speaker 12: Gods, stay on me, dru clear.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Clear let blood in the kitchen, led down.
- 2:32Speaker 13: This hall, got one's own showcasing on the floor.
- 2:38Speaker 11: Heirst man right there next to her amonger.
- 2:41Speaker 3: She just got here.
- 2:46Speaker 5: She was shot one time in the eyebrow and she
- 2:51Speaker 5: died right there. Now to our other breaking news and
- 2:55Speaker 5: row led were police or trying to figure out what
- 2:57Speaker 5: led to were woman's death inside.
- 2:59Speaker 14: Her home right now, police only calling it a death
- 3:02Speaker 14: investigation and could not go into many details surrounding the
- 3:06Speaker 14: nature of a death or who it is.
- 3:09Speaker 4: As we were in the process of obtaining a search warrant,
- 3:13Speaker 4: we were able to determine that it was Laura Gorilla
- 3:16Speaker 4: that was deceased on the floor in the kitchen. Lord
- 3:25Speaker 4: Gorilla was thirty seven years old. She was very active
- 3:29Speaker 4: in her community.
- 3:31Speaker 15: She was like this ray of sunshine. She wanted to
- 3:36Speaker 15: just make the world a better place. She was going
- 3:40Speaker 15: to get married in a week. Laura and John were
- 3:44Speaker 15: together about seven years total.
- 3:47Speaker 5: Together. They have one child, four years old, and Laura
- 3:52Speaker 5: has two older children from previous relationships, and they lived
- 3:56Speaker 5: together with Laura Grillo's brother, Brian.
- 4:00Speaker 15: John had asked Laura to marry him on more than
- 4:05Speaker 15: one occasion. She finally said yes. She really was excited
- 4:10Speaker 15: about the wedding, and she asked me to be the
- 4:13Speaker 15: maid of honor. We were having a good time planning.
- 4:16Speaker 15: We went and picked out dresses together. Laura's youngest daughter
- 4:21Speaker 15: was with us during a lot of this planning. You know,
- 4:24Speaker 15: it was really sweet. She was so in love with her.
- 4:28Speaker 15: I'm really sad. We were supposed to grow old together,
- 4:32Speaker 15: you know, and be best friends.
- 4:43Speaker 11: John and Laura were both volunteers with the police department
- 4:48Speaker 11: in a program called PHIPPS, which is Volunteers in Public Safety.
- 4:52Speaker 11: John engaged in a conversation with me. He's from Greece,
- 4:56Speaker 11: so he spoke with a heavy accent. He had asked
- 5:00Speaker 11: if Laura was in the house. Listen to me, it
- 5:04Speaker 11: looks like a gunshot one. That is all I can
- 5:07Speaker 11: tell you.
- 5:08Speaker 5: You have cameras on the house, yes, do they record?
- 5:12Speaker 16: They used to.
- 5:12Speaker 12: I don't know what to do, okay.
- 5:23Speaker 11: As we were searching the master bedroom, we observed some
- 5:26Speaker 11: drawers flipped over and the safe was actually open where
- 5:32Speaker 11: it looked like it possibly a burglary had occurred.
- 5:35Speaker 4: But there were things inside the scene that just didn't
- 5:38Speaker 4: look right. We did not find any forced entry to
- 5:41Speaker 4: the residents at all, and the rest of the home
- 5:44Speaker 4: appeared to be untouched. This did not appear to us
- 5:48Speaker 4: to be a random attack. Somebody wanted her dead.
- 5:57Speaker 15: New information from Roulette where neighbors are in discipl We just.
- 6:00Speaker 5: Got an update from role At Police about thirty minutes ago,
- 6:03Speaker 5: and they tell us the death investigation that's happening just
- 6:06Speaker 5: behind us here inside this home is now considered a homicide.
- 6:10Speaker 1: With no signs of a forced entry. Investigator say, on
- 6:13Speaker 1: Friday morning, either someone followed Laura into her home or
- 6:17Speaker 1: was already inside when she returned home from taking her
- 6:20Speaker 1: children to school.
- 6:31Speaker 5: Laura Grilla's brother, Brian told us that he was asleep
- 6:35Speaker 5: at the house. He got up about noon and he
- 6:39Speaker 5: found the female body face down in the kitchen, a
- 6:43Speaker 5: lot of blood. He exited the house and called nine
- 6:48Speaker 5: one one.
- 6:49Speaker 4: That was a concern for us initially. A gunshot that
- 6:53Speaker 4: goes off inside a house is typically pretty loud. But
- 6:57Speaker 4: he told us that he's hearing impaired, and.
- 7:00Speaker 5: We were able to confirm, so Brian was eliminated as
- 7:03Speaker 5: a suspect. We didn't find any motive there was nothing
- 7:06Speaker 5: but love between Laura and Brian.
- 7:19Speaker 15: I had the children. They were staying the night with me.
- 7:23Speaker 15: They couldn't go back home, of course, And then that's
- 7:26Speaker 15: when John was at the police station being questioned.
- 7:55Speaker 5: Basically, the goal was to confirm John's where on the
- 8:00Speaker 5: morning of the murder.
- 8:05Speaker 17: What's lost both with the close officers and detectives, the
- 8:08Speaker 17: sens I'm sorry for your lungs.
- 8:12Speaker 5: I want you to know that we're gonna find.
- 8:14Speaker 3: Out what happened.
- 8:15Speaker 13: I do.
- 8:21Speaker 5: So when we started the interview, he cried quietly for
- 8:26Speaker 5: about sixty seconds.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Will be the mode is for someone to come in
- 8:33Speaker 3: the house. I'll tackle, come on here. Somebody chose to
- 8:40Speaker 3: come in that house? Why that's what? Look we did
- 8:45Speaker 3: the lord to see any boat news, go to my moms. Okay, old,
- 8:49Speaker 3: there was no other thing I know from yes, little learn.
- 8:54Speaker 18: In a week as soon as I love copy because
- 8:56Speaker 18: of the love, it was a little exposed to it.
- 8:59Speaker 5: John answered my questions that he didn't owe anybody no money.
- 9:02Speaker 5: Nobody was threatening the family. They were pending a wedding,
- 9:07Speaker 5: and he seems to be excited. He was able to
- 9:13Speaker 5: start a detailed written statement. John said that he had
- 9:17Speaker 5: left early in the morning and went to a home
- 9:19Speaker 5: improvement store in North Dallas, and that he had met
- 9:23Speaker 5: up with two workers in his construction business. A lot
- 9:28Speaker 5: of times in my past when I've investigated something a
- 9:31Speaker 5: tragic event, people are not physically able to actually start
- 9:36Speaker 5: writing down. We have to give him some time a
- 9:40Speaker 5: day or two to collect themselves. So that struck me
- 9:43Speaker 5: a little bit odd. But my first interview with John,
- 9:46Speaker 5: he didn't stand out to be a suspect.
- 10:00Speaker 4: Next day, John showed up at the police department unannounced,
- 10:03Speaker 4: wanting to speak with me.
- 10:05Speaker 3: Everybody's asking me what's going on.
- 10:07Speaker 5: My answer is I don't know.
- 10:09Speaker 3: I still don't know. I need you guys will give answers.
- 10:12Speaker 3: I need doctors, Okay, I need to know what is
- 10:16Speaker 3: going on. What is your speculations what?
- 10:21Speaker 4: He wanted to be in charge of what was going
- 10:24Speaker 4: on and kind of controlled what information was going to
- 10:27Speaker 4: be released to the public, and we just let John
- 10:29Speaker 4: talk to get as much information from him as we
- 10:32Speaker 4: possibly could.
- 10:34Speaker 3: I will I did not answer what I can what
- 10:37Speaker 3: I can tell you.
- 10:37Speaker 2: At this point.
- 10:38Speaker 3: My biggest concern right now is the kids.
- 10:43Speaker 12: How am I going to talk about mind Blom was
- 10:46Speaker 12: to bring the kids to the house.
- 10:50Speaker 4: Yes, of course, he doesn't really seem to be too
- 10:56Speaker 4: upset about the fact that his fiance that he was
- 11:00Speaker 4: supposed to marry in a week is dead. He's more
- 11:04Speaker 4: concerned about wanting to clean everything up and move on
- 11:08Speaker 4: with his life, and.
- 11:10Speaker 5: He's not talking about any security measures that he's going
- 11:13Speaker 5: to implement after he's returning to the murder scene with
- 11:17Speaker 5: not only his own life but also the kids.
- 11:24Speaker 14: Now to a developing story, investigators say the death of
- 11:27Speaker 14: a thirty seven year old Roulet mother appears to be
- 11:29Speaker 14: a homicide. Laurie Grilla was shot and killed inside her
- 11:33Speaker 14: own home Friday morning, shortly after returning from dropping her
- 11:36Speaker 14: children off at school.
- 11:37Speaker 1: She was supposed to be getting ready for her wedding
- 11:40Speaker 1: scheduled one week from tonight, but instead friends and family
- 11:45Speaker 1: are planning her funeral.
- 11:48Speaker 15: She was a fantastic, loving mom, friend, sister. She had
- 11:55Speaker 15: a rough childhood growing up, but she was trying to
- 12:00Speaker 15: create this really fantastic life for her kids that she
- 12:03Speaker 15: didn't have when.
- 12:03Speaker 1: She was a kid.
- 12:06Speaker 15: It's a real nightmare not knowing what happened to someone
- 12:10Speaker 15: when they're here one day and then they're just like
- 12:14Speaker 15: murder her the next day, but Laura's Beyonce, John was
- 12:18Speaker 15: acting strange from the get go. Just a few days
- 12:22Speaker 15: after Laura was killed, John asked me, He's like, I
- 12:26Speaker 15: have a feeling that the Rabbit Police Department is going
- 12:29Speaker 15: to try to pin this on me and take the kids.
- 12:33Speaker 15: I knew something was wrong.
- 12:47Speaker 4: We were able to gather video surveillance footage from a
- 12:51Speaker 4: couple of home improvement stores that John told us he
- 12:54Speaker 4: went to that morning in Dallas, which proved that he
- 12:58Speaker 4: was actually there at the time that Laura was killed.
- 13:01Speaker 4: So we knew that he wasn't responsible for this himself,
- 13:04Speaker 4: but we couldn't say at that point that he didn't
- 13:07Speaker 4: have some involvement in setting.
- 13:09Speaker 5: This up, and we were able to confirm that a
- 13:13Speaker 5: short time later. He had met up with two workers
- 13:17Speaker 5: in his construction business.
- 13:26Speaker 15: Jesus worked with John and they were best friends. He
- 13:31Speaker 15: was going to be part of the wedding party.
- 13:33Speaker 4: Hasus was John's right hand man kind of his job foreman,
- 13:37Speaker 4: John's go to person.
- 13:39Speaker 5: James said that he had only been working for the
- 13:41Speaker 5: company for three weeks, so he had barely met John.
- 14:07Speaker 5: My goal was to find out are they a person.
- 14:09Speaker 3: Of interest or a suspect, and he thanked me it
- 14:15Speaker 3: don't be laid whatever. I'm where were gonna be ub
- 14:20Speaker 3: at home depot.
- 14:23Speaker 11: And that is.
- 14:25Speaker 3: That's what happened. Then just started on holding doors.
- 14:28Speaker 18: Okay, he pulled up and being John John John showed
- 14:33Speaker 18: up and everything we started working again.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Okay.
- 14:37Speaker 5: Both his sus and James were very upfront, very cooperative,
- 14:42Speaker 5: very talkative. The stories matched.
- 14:44Speaker 4: They both said they were together the entire morning, and
- 14:48Speaker 4: both James and his sues denied being in Ralleh that
- 14:50Speaker 4: morning having any knowledge about what happened to Laura.
- 14:53Speaker 2: Who was responsible for it?
- 14:55Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.
- 14:56Speaker 5: I'm gonna ask you, Okay, if you had any suspicions
- 15:00Speaker 5: or if you had any.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Personal knowledge that John was responsible for Laura listened her life,
- 15:07Speaker 3: would you tell us?
- 15:08Speaker 19: Yeah?
- 15:09Speaker 6: Because if y'all find out I knew, I mean, if
- 15:20Speaker 6: that's a dar wonder if he could have done it.
- 15:22Speaker 6: I don't see him doing it and he didn't ask
- 15:27Speaker 6: I don't see it like that, right, you know? I mean,
- 15:29Speaker 6: I I mean since it happened, just like y'all have
- 15:32Speaker 6: been doing. You know it is it the husband?
- 15:34Speaker 5: Is it?
- 15:34Speaker 20: The brother?
- 15:35Speaker 15: Is it?
- 15:36Speaker 6: Is it you know what I'm saying is that really,
- 15:37Speaker 6: let's let's I've been doing the same thing exactly.
- 15:40Speaker 3: You know, that's the same thing we do.
- 15:42Speaker 5: If you kind of brought it up, you know, because
- 15:44Speaker 5: you said, I don't you know, I don't think he
- 15:46Speaker 5: did it.
- 15:47Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna ask. That's why we get.
- 15:49Speaker 5: Along that all right.
- 15:51Speaker 4: Seemed a little too laid back, you know, just laughing
- 15:55Speaker 4: and joking around in the interview room. Some of that
- 15:58Speaker 4: stuff didn't really make sense when his boss's fiance, who
- 16:02Speaker 4: he had also known for several years was just killed.
- 16:07Speaker 4: Kind of felt like he was making a very good
- 16:09Speaker 4: effort to deflect any attention from himself. We found some
- 16:32Speaker 4: things that were suspicious to us. Ralet is about thirty
- 16:36Speaker 4: minutes east of Dallasjeseus told us in his initial interview
- 16:40Speaker 4: that he stayed in Dallas the entire morning Laura was killed,
- 16:44Speaker 4: and his phone records showed otherwise.
- 16:47Speaker 5: And what we found is about eight twenty six, he
- 16:51Speaker 5: pinged a tower in Raulette.
- 16:53Speaker 4: And the time that his phone hit a cell tower
- 16:56Speaker 4: in Roulette, about a mile from Laura's house, was right
- 17:00Speaker 4: about the time that we believed that Laura was killed.
- 17:04Speaker 4: That was a big problem for him. There was a
- 17:06Speaker 4: lot more to this that he wasn't telling us. We
- 17:10Speaker 4: needed to figure out exactly what did happen. A lot
- 17:32Speaker 4: of the people that we talked to describe John as
- 17:34Speaker 4: a very controlling person. She didn't treat Laura very well
- 17:38Speaker 4: in public.
- 17:39Speaker 15: He was mean, he yelled, he had a terrible temper.
- 17:44Speaker 15: He was possessive. It was a little surprising when she
- 17:50Speaker 15: accepted his proposal. There were actually several times when Laura
- 17:56Speaker 15: was thinking about leaving John. The last time I spoke
- 18:00Speaker 15: with Laura was the night before she was murdered. She
- 18:05Speaker 15: said there was just a big fight that happened regarding
- 18:08Speaker 15: the wedding dress. There was definitely turmoil.
- 18:12Speaker 4: We found out that John wanted out of the relationship
- 18:14Speaker 4: with Laura, but he also was trying to maintain possession
- 18:18Speaker 4: of his daughter. We know that James and Haysus were
- 18:45Speaker 4: together that morning prior to them meeting up with John.
- 18:50Speaker 4: We wanted to talk to James again to let James
- 18:53Speaker 4: know that we knew Haysus was lying to us. I've
- 19:02Speaker 4: listened to the interviews of everybody that's involved with this
- 19:05Speaker 4: uh with this case, and.
- 19:07Speaker 3: There's some things that just don't add up. Hope, if
- 19:09Speaker 3: as much as the cant I also too. And the
- 19:12Speaker 3: first point I want I want to figure out is you.
- 19:16Speaker 17: Said this twice, that you that Manuel went to your
- 19:19Speaker 17: house about eight thirty eight forty five.
- 19:22Speaker 3: But I've got information that puts Manuel somewhere else. And
- 19:27Speaker 3: just be honest, that time right not at your place.
- 19:32Speaker 3: He was at my place. I have proof that he
- 19:34Speaker 3: was not at your place, DA's one time he was
- 19:37Speaker 3: in my place. I'm telling you, I've analyzed everything.
- 19:41Speaker 4: He was not there can any interview. We've got to
- 19:44Speaker 4: get that person to understand that we do know more
- 19:49Speaker 4: than what we're leading on. And we explained what the
- 19:52Speaker 4: penalties are for, you know, murdering. He could spend the
- 19:55Speaker 4: rest of his life in prison. I think the thought
- 19:57Speaker 4: of that scared him.
- 19:59Speaker 3: You only for fifteen years, and is it what I want?
- 20:02Speaker 3: Sometimes our friends will put us in a difficult situation.
- 20:06Speaker 3: Don't lie for him if you have to worry. You know,
- 20:10Speaker 3: it's serious business to if you know something, even if
- 20:14Speaker 3: you suspect.
- 20:15Speaker 5: Something laid after I was trying to let him know,
- 20:20Speaker 5: don't cover for him. It helped to build rapport. And
- 20:23Speaker 5: if you have rapport with somebody. It makes it more
- 20:26Speaker 5: difficult for them to lie to you.
- 20:29Speaker 3: If we give you a polygraph today and I asked you,
- 20:32Speaker 3: do you have knowledge or did you participate in the
- 20:37Speaker 3: taking of the life lord?
- 20:38Speaker 5: Yes?
- 20:38Speaker 17: Or no? O, James, well knowledge? What do you think
- 20:42Speaker 17: do you have knowledge of it? No one has mentioned
- 20:46Speaker 17: it to you? What do you think the syste was show.
- 20:51Speaker 3: I'm coming, I tell you true.
- 20:53Speaker 5: Still, even as we confronted him with facts that we knew,
- 20:56Speaker 5: he continued to deny, but I classified him as a
- 20:59Speaker 5: week denile. We knew that he knew something about the murder.
- 21:26Speaker 5: He gave us consent to search. We did recover a
- 21:29Speaker 5: usable amount of marijuana and a backpack that was underneath.
- 21:33Speaker 3: His bad Who's bag is this?
- 21:35Speaker 15: This?
- 21:35Speaker 3: Is that on his all heads?
- 21:39Speaker 5: I noticed the change in its demeanor. When I pulled
- 21:41Speaker 5: out the backpack, I opened it up. It had late
- 21:46Speaker 5: tex gloves in there. It had two brand new phones
- 21:49Speaker 5: in there. It was a little bit odd for me.
- 21:53Speaker 4: So that gave us even more suspicion that now we're
- 21:55Speaker 4: on to the right people.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Also happening right now, police are looking for a man
- 22:04Speaker 1: who they say is a person of interest in the
- 22:06Speaker 1: murder of.
- 22:07Speaker 12: A roll at Mother rall at police.
- 22:09Speaker 15: This new person of interest has Emmanuel Trevigno whed about
- 22:12Speaker 15: where he was to day that Laura Gorilla was murdered
- 22:14Speaker 15: here in her home and that he's now on the run.
- 22:18Speaker 4: He fled the area. We were not able to locate him,
- 22:21Speaker 4: and we had some concern that James may do the same.
- 22:24Speaker 4: We decided to go ahead and charge him with that marijuana.
- 22:27Speaker 4: That's the reason why James ended up back in jail.
- 22:44Speaker 3: We breakless folk in the car jail or Texas.
- 22:47Speaker 4: Rangers at Texas Rangers are the state police here in
- 22:52Speaker 4: Texas that are very helpful in assisting smaller agencies to
- 22:58Speaker 4: investigate crimes of this nature.
- 23:00Speaker 18: Interesting to pay its uh real Texas Ranger before still
- 23:04Speaker 18: in that seen.
- 23:06Speaker 12: Well, he he, he's a real deal.
- 23:09Speaker 4: James seemed to be very intrigued by the Texas Rangers.
- 23:13Speaker 4: He seemed to be impressed.
- 23:24Speaker 2: I'm not interested in games at this point.
- 23:26Speaker 3: We're way too far into this and this is not
- 23:28Speaker 3: something that you wanna get in the middle of by
- 23:31Speaker 3: trying to cover for dying on to anybody else.
- 23:40Speaker 18: I've been trying to go over and more and more
- 23:42Speaker 18: in case you'll come to talk to me, cause I
- 23:45Speaker 18: wanna help out as much as I can.
- 23:47Speaker 4: James knew that it was a very serious situation, but
- 23:50Speaker 4: we just, uh, we couldn't get James to tell us
- 23:54Speaker 4: what he knew at that point.
- 24:07Speaker 19: Yeah.
- 24:10Speaker 20: H They still haven't released their James no, I mean
- 24:25Speaker 20: no Ald my.
- 24:26Speaker 9: Views with me down times.
- 24:28Speaker 4: They were clearly concerned about James being at the police
- 24:31Speaker 4: department for so many hours and what he was telling us.
- 24:54Speaker 5: We needed to determine if there was anything that John
- 24:58Speaker 5: was willing to provide us that would explain why he
- 25:01Speaker 5: would be having a conversation with Hasus about what James
- 25:05Speaker 5: was going to say. He was surprised to see us
- 25:08Speaker 5: approaching at the home improvement parking lot. He seemed very nervous.
- 25:14Speaker 12: You got this second.
- 25:15Speaker 3: I wanted to show you something. We got something that
- 25:17Speaker 3: came up in the case.
- 25:20Speaker 15: Doing in my lawyer.
- 25:22Speaker 5: If he was not involved. That was an opportunity for
- 25:26Speaker 5: him to say and explain that he was not involved
- 25:30Speaker 5: in the murder of his fiance.
- 25:58Speaker 12: Listen to it.
- 25:58Speaker 5: Listen you said, hopefully he didn't tell him.
- 26:07Speaker 12: How what do you mean?
- 26:09Speaker 2: In other words, us the police because he was we
- 26:11Speaker 2: were enterviewing James.
- 26:13Speaker 10: Okay, and you said, I hope he doesn't tell them
- 26:16Speaker 10: about and.
- 26:18Speaker 20: I know because I was with him.
- 26:21Speaker 5: Other words, James with me, I don't remember, man. No,
- 26:24Speaker 5: that's that's the recording right there that you used them
- 26:27Speaker 5: talking to Hassus. Okay, that means you know how Laura
- 26:31Speaker 5: was killed.
- 26:31Speaker 12: Oh, sir, I do not know how Laura was killed.
- 26:33Speaker 5: Then why would you say that I don't remember how
- 26:37Speaker 5: and why? I had this conversation with him. He seemed
- 26:42Speaker 5: very nervous and he couldn't explain it. He could not
- 26:45Speaker 5: explain the recorded conversation. Did you look at everything that
- 26:50Speaker 5: we have found out during this investigation? And I'm just
- 26:53Speaker 5: being honest with you, Okay. It's pointing a right back
- 26:56Speaker 5: to you and Hassus and James. Oh, but you see
- 27:00Speaker 5: how it looks.
- 27:02Speaker 12: I really have an idea. I mean, I don't know
- 27:04Speaker 12: what tell you Eachically.
- 27:07Speaker 10: I don't think that I should be talking to you
- 27:09Speaker 10: guys right now, because my lawyer told me, you know,
- 27:12Speaker 10: if the police wants to talk to you, I need
- 27:14Speaker 10: to be present.
- 27:15Speaker 2: You're free to go.
- 27:16Speaker 5: We're not we're not detaining you. We're not hacked up in.
- 27:19Speaker 3: You and we just asked the questions.
- 27:37Speaker 4: We were able to get in contact with a couple
- 27:40Speaker 4: of his ex girlfriends or former roommate of his, and
- 27:45Speaker 4: these people had direct knowledge about Issues being hired by John.
- 27:51Speaker 3: To kill Laura.
- 27:54Speaker 4: Two of these people gave us information that Issues personally
- 27:57Speaker 4: came to them and offered them money to drive him
- 28:01Speaker 4: out to Raulette so that he could commit this murder.
- 28:05Speaker 4: Both of those people didn't want anything to do with
- 28:08Speaker 4: his plan, So at this point in the investigation, our
- 28:12Speaker 4: theory was that James was most likely the driver, and
- 28:16Speaker 4: we felt that John paid Asus to kill Laura.
- 28:22Speaker 5: Also, we were able to get a tip that Hesusu
- 28:25Speaker 5: was in Florida, and we provided that information to the
- 28:30Speaker 5: United States Marshall Service.
- 28:32Speaker 1: All New at ten o'clock handcuffed in Florida.
- 28:34Speaker 2: Take a good look at the photo.
- 28:35Speaker 5: This is on a warrant out of Roulette.
- 28:36Speaker 8: US Marshall's arresting Jesus Trevino.
- 28:52Speaker 5: Hassus had been arrested, but we still did not have
- 28:55Speaker 5: proof that John was an active role co defendant in
- 29:01Speaker 5: the murder of Lord Grello.
- 29:04Speaker 4: We just needed, really that one person to finally break
- 29:08Speaker 4: and just confirm everything that the investigation had showed up
- 29:12Speaker 4: to that point, and SU's had.
- 29:14Speaker 5: A fellowy criminal history. He has multiple risks, He has
- 29:17Speaker 5: a lot of knowledge of dealing with the police.
- 29:20Speaker 4: And James didn't have as close of a relationship with
- 29:24Speaker 4: John that he Sue's did. So we felt that James
- 29:26Speaker 4: would be the weaker person in that type of a
- 29:29Speaker 4: situation to cooperate with us and tell us what he
- 29:33Speaker 4: knew about how Laura was killed.
- 29:57Speaker 3: Hey, James, Jamal at the Rangers you doing.
- 30:02Speaker 4: James seemed to be very intrigued by the Texas Rangers.
- 30:06Speaker 4: He really seemed to to like dealing with the Rangers,
- 30:09Speaker 4: like talking to the Rangers.
- 30:11Speaker 13: Well, I know that he dealt with some guys, but
- 30:12Speaker 13: I'm a little bit different than them, because really all.
- 30:15Speaker 3: I do is homicides. My conviction rate, my solvency rate.
- 30:23Speaker 3: You actually remind me of the legend of the Texas Rangers.
- 30:26Speaker 3: I heard about the whole wild West DAGs.
- 30:29Speaker 19: Yeah.
- 30:29Speaker 18: Yeah, just seeing all these marshals and sheriffs in there,
- 30:32Speaker 18: and it took one Texas Ranger, one light wrote one ranger, right, Okay.
- 30:37Speaker 5: Texas Rangers. They're a legend here in Texas. I think
- 30:40Speaker 5: it made an influence on James in order to give
- 30:44Speaker 5: more of the truth.
- 30:46Speaker 3: You know, the young lady. Guess what she didd Would
- 30:51Speaker 3: it surprised you to know this young lady.
- 30:58Speaker 21: Told us that Hey, Sus talked to her about how
- 31:03Speaker 21: he was going to get paid to commit a murder.
- 31:05Speaker 3: He was going to kill his boss's wife. You know
- 31:09Speaker 3: this joker. He approaches him and offers him some money
- 31:17Speaker 3: to drive a car so he can do what kill
- 31:23Speaker 3: his boss's wife. So you think those two stories are legitimate.
- 31:28Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot to make up.
- 31:30Speaker 4: He understands that now we know a little bit more
- 31:34Speaker 4: than we did the last time we sat down.
- 31:37Speaker 5: You see his arms are open. He's pretty relaxed, and
- 31:41Speaker 5: that's a good posture to move in to draw any
- 31:44Speaker 5: more of the truth.
- 31:53Speaker 3: You don't have to get caught up in this deal.
- 31:55Speaker 13: Why should you be worried? Because capital murder is an
- 31:59Speaker 13: all inclusive offense. It doesn't matter who pulled the trigger, right,
- 32:04Speaker 13: don't be a part of it. Lay it out, separate yourself.
- 32:09Speaker 3: The only way that you can do that is be honest.
- 32:16Speaker 3: There's an opportunity for that. The only way I think
- 32:20Speaker 3: that you guys had of the saints to help yourself out.
- 32:24Speaker 3: I'm just starting maturity. It's your decision. This is probably
- 32:27Speaker 3: the most important moment of your life. Yeah, okay, right,
- 32:40Speaker 3: If you're not honest, there's nothing anyone can do for you. Wow, God, just.
- 33:03Speaker 19: Yes.
- 33:08Speaker 3: I don't think this is your fault.
- 33:10Speaker 19: I don't even think that you necessarily knew why you
- 33:12Speaker 19: were driving him there? Did you know why you were
- 33:15Speaker 19: driving him there? I don't think I know the answers.
- 33:23Speaker 3: You're not a can and a guy who plans version.
- 33:27Speaker 3: You're not a bad person. But good people say that
- 33:32Speaker 3: they're sorry for the mistakes that they make. They make amends.
- 33:37Speaker 5: If you recognize the person not just for the event
- 33:41Speaker 5: of the criminal act, but for other things in their life,
- 33:45Speaker 5: they feel that they've got some type of connection with you,
- 33:48Speaker 5: that you're not judging them on one criminal act. In
- 33:51Speaker 5: some witnesses, it can give them the comfort that they
- 33:53Speaker 5: need in order for them to provide truthful information.
- 34:04Speaker 3: You're on the edge of the Grand Canyon right now.
- 34:07Speaker 3: What I'm gonna ask you to do is take a
- 34:09Speaker 3: leap of pain and trust me. Alright, you're my friend, right,
- 34:14Speaker 3: I'm trying to be her friend. Oh the that's friend
- 34:16Speaker 3: you have no whole breaking. You don't get your fitt
- 34:19Speaker 3: of paper, So how does it kick off?
- 34:25Speaker 18: Alright?
- 34:25Speaker 3: When I was first mentioned anything about this, I disregarded it.
- 34:31Speaker 3: M I thought you he was just about stuck.
- 34:34Speaker 18: He shows up in the morning and we get a
- 34:37Speaker 18: car and we go all the time. I'm like, I'm
- 34:43Speaker 18: still thinking he's even when he gets there, he's that,
- 34:49Speaker 18: he does his thing.
- 34:51Speaker 3: I heard nothing. And when he gets back in the car,
- 34:55Speaker 3: what does he say to you? That's him, That's what
- 35:00Speaker 3: I said. Yeah, shut it is say how he did it?
- 35:02Speaker 3: Or he a shower in the head.
- 35:18Speaker 16: Right, but it's pretty obviously John Organ, Yeah yeah, it's
- 35:22Speaker 16: as you ever say?
- 35:23Speaker 3: How much you John pay him for it?
- 35:27Speaker 15: He was.
- 35:29Speaker 3: Boasting about something about fifteen grand. Whether it's righting in
- 35:34Speaker 3: and all or s shut up or the same man?
- 35:37Speaker 3: Don't talk girls. I got that vite from a sous.
- 35:41Speaker 3: What's to do with toge? He got rid of? Where
- 35:46Speaker 3: at the guess they sup the street? Who needs some coffin?
- 35:50Speaker 18: Let's get in the car and I'll take I I
- 35:52Speaker 18: don't know the street, but I I could take you
- 35:54Speaker 18: that way.
- 36:03Speaker 4: James did agree to get in the car and actually
- 36:07Speaker 4: show us the route that he and his woes drove
- 36:11Speaker 4: from Dallas to rail at that morning.
- 36:14Speaker 3: Oh no, here.
- 36:18Speaker 4: Good, and James was able to show us several places
- 36:24Speaker 4: that evidence was discarded.
- 36:27Speaker 12: Okay, what was it?
- 36:30Speaker 4: A container or something?
- 36:33Speaker 2: It was in what's black trash bag?
- 36:49Speaker 4: Once James finally did decide to tell us what he knew,
- 36:53Speaker 4: we were able to take John into custody as well.
- 36:58Speaker 5: We entered through a lodge where he was doing some work.
- 37:03Speaker 5: He was taken to the ground and handcuffed. During the arrest,
- 37:07Speaker 5: his glasses fell off and the only thing he said
- 37:10Speaker 5: is can I get my glasses? And he never said
- 37:14Speaker 5: a word. He never spoke. We were instructed to drive
- 37:19Speaker 5: him to the Dallas Sheriff's office and turn him over
- 37:22Speaker 5: to Rader Holland.
- 37:23Speaker 3: Here you going go.
- 37:25Speaker 5: See this was a well planned murder and we needed
- 37:32Speaker 5: to close this case. We needed John to confess.
- 37:43Speaker 21: Well, I guess you really have about fifty thousand questions
- 37:46Speaker 21: join now I wondering what's going on?
- 37:48Speaker 3: Would I'll be right with that. There's a couple of problems.
- 38:05Speaker 3: What do you think there's a couple of problems. Let
- 38:08Speaker 3: me explain him to you.
- 38:09Speaker 21: So you know, James Belada, right, yes, all right, and
- 38:16Speaker 21: you know mister Turina.
- 38:17Speaker 3: There right, yes, with him, I know who several years.
- 38:22Speaker 3: Let me cut to the chase a little bit. Hey,
- 38:23Speaker 3: SEUs is a dumbass, all right.
- 38:26Speaker 21: At the end of the day, you shouldn't hire a
- 38:28Speaker 21: dumb ass to do a job because he's gonna screw
- 38:31Speaker 21: it up, all right.
- 38:31Speaker 3: And if he doesn't screw it up, he's gonna talk
- 38:33Speaker 3: about it. Does he even hire the dumbas? That's my problem?
- 38:36Speaker 3: Up do what I do? Not hire them. I do
- 38:40Speaker 3: not put him in money. That's that's my building. I
- 38:44Speaker 3: don't know. I tried to get married with him for
- 38:47Speaker 3: at least three years. I loved him. I still love him.
- 38:52Speaker 3: There's not a question of if you did this or
- 38:53Speaker 3: you didn't do that. I already know the answer to it.
- 38:56Speaker 3: I already know that you hired him.
- 38:57Speaker 21: You know this chick, he said that Hayesius told her
- 39:02Speaker 21: that you were going to pay Haysius nine thousand dollars
- 39:06Speaker 21: for killing your wife because you didn't want to get
- 39:10Speaker 21: married and you wanted to accustody the children.
- 39:17Speaker 3: And at this point you're looking at a long time
- 39:20Speaker 3: in prison orly.
- 39:22Speaker 21: But his country is very interesting and that people show
- 39:26Speaker 21: remorse and then tell the truth.
- 39:28Speaker 10: Things tend to go back for I say this, I'm sorry.
- 39:41Speaker 10: Oh I am sorry that my wife was killed.
- 39:45Speaker 3: I cry so many times.
- 39:48Speaker 7: I mean, you're telling me that.
- 39:52Speaker 10: You know, you're telling me that basically at meeting that
- 39:56Speaker 10: I hired him to do the marriagive.
- 39:58Speaker 3: That's what you're telling me. Am I telling you to
- 40:01Speaker 3: admit that. No, I already know that you did that.
- 40:03Speaker 3: I'm giving you an opportunity get to tell the truth.
- 40:06Speaker 3: I need to go to his name.
- 40:26Speaker 5: When Ranger Holland interviewed James, he was able to get
- 40:31Speaker 5: his cooperation to the point that James agreed to testify
- 40:34Speaker 5: against the other two defendant, which was very positive for
- 40:37Speaker 5: our investigation. James says he drove his sus to roll
- 40:46Speaker 5: att to Lord Grello's house. His sus entered the house,
- 40:53Speaker 5: he shot her to death, and then they drove to
- 40:57Speaker 5: the home improvement store in North and met up with
- 41:01Speaker 5: John and that John wanted Casus to kill Laura before
- 41:08Speaker 5: the wedding.
- 41:11Speaker 15: That wedding wasn't going to happen.
- 41:14Speaker 4: It was olld to cover up. You know, there's a
- 41:17Speaker 4: darkness to it, and both John and Jussus were sentenced
- 41:24Speaker 4: to life in prison without the possibility of parole, and
- 41:28Speaker 4: because James did decide to cooperate in this investigation, he
- 41:33Speaker 4: was allowed to plead guilty to a murder charge instead
- 41:36Speaker 4: of capital murder and he was sentenced to twenty five years.
- 41:41Speaker 4: I was glad we were able to hold the individuals responsible,
- 41:44Speaker 4: you know, accountable for what they did.
- 41:50Speaker 15: They took a lot away from a lot of people,
- 41:54Speaker 15: and they took a mother, a friend, a daughter. I'm
- 41:59Speaker 15: just really glad that this case got solved and that
- 42:02Speaker 15: they worked so hard for her, because anybody's worth it,
- 42:05Speaker 15: but you know, Laura was worth it.
- 42:08Speaker 5: They had been planning this murder for months and they
- 42:13Speaker 5: believe that they had a plan that was going to work.
- 42:16Speaker 5: Luckily in this case, we got justice for Laura Gorilla.
- 42:34Speaker 15: She's awesome and she's strong, and she's like her mom,
- 42:38Speaker 15: and Laura's always gonna have a place in her heart.
- 42:43Speaker 15: She's resilient.
- 42:45Speaker 5: I'm really blessed to have her.
- 42:48Speaker 15: Laura still lives on. She lives on through her daughter's
- 42:50Speaker 15: smile and through me trying to be a better person
- 42:55Speaker 15: every day because of her