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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 6-18-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Steve · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to doctor Crips Natural Health Hours.
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  Speaker 2: on Zoom and we've got Susie Bill, our producer, hiding
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  Speaker 6: And myself. Tonight we're going to touch on.
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  Speaker 2: Edema. You see a lot of people it was swollen
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  Speaker 2: ankles and feet, and we're going to go into that.
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  Speaker 2: But before that, let's have Susie and Bill say hello
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  Speaker 2: if they'd like to do that.
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  Speaker 6: Susie.
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  Speaker 7: Hello, everyone, thanks for joining us tonight.
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  Speaker 6: Here we go, all right.
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  Speaker 2: So, what I'd noticed with a lot of people, they
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  Speaker 2: would get swelling of the ankles and feet, and it
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  Speaker 2: can be several things, but ninety percent of the time
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  Speaker 2: it's a drenals and a drenals sit on top of
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  Speaker 2: the kidneys and they tell the kidneys to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of fluid. And the renals are also involved in fight
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  Speaker 2: or flight.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: The medulla on the adrenals is involved with epinephrine and nonephrine,
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  Speaker 2: so that it's fight or flight. And the adrenals use
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  Speaker 2: a lot of natural vitamin C and so they can
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  Speaker 2: get run down and fatigued.
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  Speaker 6: Really really fast.
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  Speaker 2: And so if they're not working right, or even if
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  Speaker 2: there's a kidney problem to go with them, you may
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  Speaker 2: not get rid of the fluid, and that could be
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  Speaker 2: a bad thing. And what's really sad a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people are buying these socks and putting them on, trying
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  Speaker 2: to compress their ankles to push that fluid back up. Well,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's not even covering up, that's not even taking
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  Speaker 2: out the check engine light. Because what's happening our fluid,
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  Speaker 2: the the heart pumps our blood throughout the body and
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  Speaker 2: it comes back by way of limp node system and
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  Speaker 2: the veins, and that's usually by muscle contraction. That's how
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  Speaker 2: we get the blood back to the lungs.
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  Speaker 6: I mean back to the heart.
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  Speaker 2: The heart pumps it through the lungs, gets it oxygenated,
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  Speaker 2: gets rid of the sealed two when we exhale. It's
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  Speaker 2: a pretty good system. But most of the time, if
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  Speaker 2: I see ankles and feet that are swollen and the
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  Speaker 2: fancy word everybody uses as aedema, I'll ask them to
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  Speaker 2: tell me if there's anything else going on. And usually
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  Speaker 2: they're fatigued, they've got hair loss, and they notice their
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  Speaker 2: dizzy when they stand up. Sometimes, well, that's all adrenals also.
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  Speaker 2: And the adrenals, like I said, they sit on top
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  Speaker 2: one adrenal glands that's on top of one kidney on
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  Speaker 2: both sides, and the adrenals talk to the hypothalamus and
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  Speaker 2: the pituitary, and they talk to the thyroid and they
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  Speaker 2: talk to testes and men and ovaries and women so
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  Speaker 2: they can do the hormone stuff. And the adrenals are
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  Speaker 2: involved in the adrenal cortex. That's where we get things
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  Speaker 2: like cartisol and the cardicole steroids, and they're used in
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  Speaker 2: a lot of functions, and all that stuff is made
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  Speaker 2: from cholesterol. So a lot of times when people have
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  Speaker 2: a problem, they're on a cholesterol med and it's a
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  Speaker 2: man made problem. So going out and buying them socks
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  Speaker 2: and all that stuff isn't doing you any good. You're
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  Speaker 2: just not correct in anything. And then you always have
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  Speaker 2: to look too. The body is very complicated, and there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times it's a simple problem. Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: it might be adrenals. But if it's a dreamals, why
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  Speaker 2: where nutrients not getting absorbed? Is digestion messed up? Are
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  Speaker 2: we not feeding the natural vitamin C that adrenals need.
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  Speaker 2: I'm convinced that many many patients that have been diagnosed
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  Speaker 2: to it, the stress syndromes and the post traumatic traumatic
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  Speaker 2: dress syndromes, and people that have been in war and
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  Speaker 2: stressful jobs are after a shooting or something terrible, the
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  Speaker 2: adrenals were just wore out. They were fight or fight,
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  Speaker 2: fight or fight, fight or flight, and pretty soon they
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  Speaker 2: can't take it no more. And because they're involved in
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  Speaker 2: fight or flight and cartical steroids and making things that
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  Speaker 2: the body needs and communicating with the thyroid and the
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  Speaker 2: rest of the glands that communicate, like the hypothalmus and
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  Speaker 2: the pituitary, they're shot. And so what they do with
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  Speaker 2: the PTSD instead of addressing that where you probably need
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  Speaker 2: some doctor bill head doctor kind of stuff. And we
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  Speaker 2: need to go back in and address the adrenals and
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  Speaker 2: the thyroid and the pituitary and the hypothalamus and the
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  Speaker 2: testes are over east, depending on man or woman, and
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  Speaker 2: we need to find out what's going on. What other
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  Speaker 2: symptoms are you. Are you dealing with stress a lot?
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  Speaker 2: Did you just come back from a tour and I
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  Speaker 2: are you going through a divorce? Are you did you
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  Speaker 2: recently lose a loved one. There's a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: that will turn that and wear you out.
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  Speaker 6: And then your diet.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't put good natural vitamin C in your diet,
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  Speaker 2: the adrenals are going to be in trouble no matter
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  Speaker 2: what's going on. They use like ninety percent of the
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  Speaker 2: natural vitamin C that's in your body. They need it badly.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll tell people, get yourself some natural orange juice
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  Speaker 2: that has not been pasteurized, Find good organic, natural fruits.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of things you can do that will help
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  Speaker 2: keep those adrenals in top shape. And then one of
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  Speaker 2: the other things people will tell you because the adrenal
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  Speaker 2: cortex is involved with cartisol and the particle steroids. Cartisol
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  Speaker 2: should be very low in the morning and then it's
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  Speaker 2: higher at night so we can go to sleep. But
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  Speaker 2: if cardisol is high in the morning, we're all screwed up.
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  Speaker 2: And that's another another sign. So hair loss, stress, dizziness,
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  Speaker 2: swollen ankles and feet, and then it could be the digestion.
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  Speaker 2: There are times when the heart is having a problem.
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  Speaker 6: It could be a valve problem. It could be.
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  Speaker 2: That, like we've talked before, sometimes the arteries look like
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  Speaker 2: raw ground beef on the inside. And so what the
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  Speaker 2: body does. It brings in the patching crew and it
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  Speaker 2: uses cholesterol or anything it can find to patch places
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  Speaker 2: so we don't have a blowout. Well, it's hoping you
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  Speaker 2: will fix the problem before the patches become so thick.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have good circulation, so we have to address that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's very important, and this is why I like
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  Speaker 2: to do four or five things on every new patient,
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  Speaker 2: depending on what they're telling me about, so that we
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  Speaker 2: address everything at once and then see what.
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  Speaker 6: Your body tells us.
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  Speaker 2: But if you've got fluid building up. Almost ninety percent
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  Speaker 2: of my experience has been adrenals, dizziness, adrenals, sometimes an
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  Speaker 2: inner ear infection, sometimes both. Sometimes the heart needs a
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  Speaker 2: little help. Sometimes we need to oxygenate the tissue and
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  Speaker 2: the blood and cardioplus. It's really good for that. It
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  Speaker 2: has something in there called cataplex eat you and it
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  Speaker 2: helps oxygenate our blood.
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  Speaker 6: And you got to remember, if you've got.
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  Speaker 2: A long problem, if there's allergies bothering you, maybe you're
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  Speaker 2: not oxygenating the blood as good as you should.
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  Speaker 6: When the heart bumps it through.
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  Speaker 2: There a lot of things going on, but I always
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  Speaker 2: like to start with the adrenals. Make sure the heart's healthy,
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  Speaker 2: make sure the kidneys are healthy. And that's why I
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  Speaker 2: like diaplex, because if digestion is screwed up, you can
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  Speaker 2: eat as good as you want, and maybe we're not
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  Speaker 2: getting the nutrients where they need to go. And diaplex
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  Speaker 2: has got things for the kidneys, the bladder, the liver,
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  Speaker 2: the gall bladder, the pancreas, the pituitary. It's got digestive enzyme,
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  Speaker 2: stomach acid, it's got quite a bit of stuff, and
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  Speaker 2: so that way we know that at the start everything's
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  Speaker 2: going to be getting correct and then if we're eating good,
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  Speaker 2: we should be able to feed the adrenals and the
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  Speaker 2: rest of your body. And unless you're a vegan or
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  Speaker 2: a vegetarian who isn't getting any good fats in their
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  Speaker 2: diet to get the good cholesterol that you need, then
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  Speaker 2: we need to maybe give you something to help deal
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  Speaker 2: with that. But it's very important because the body's designed
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  Speaker 2: to produce eighty percent of the cholesterol we need for
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  Speaker 2: the for the adrenals and the thyroid and everybody to
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  Speaker 2: make hormones and to make the steroids that the adrenal
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  Speaker 2: has to make in the adrenal cortex.
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  Speaker 6: But without those cholesterol we're in trouble.
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  Speaker 2: We can't do that because the body expects us well,
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  Speaker 2: I guess when God made the body, expect you to
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  Speaker 2: eat twenty percent.
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  Speaker 6: To get your cholesterol that way.
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  Speaker 2: And many, many times people are on a cholesterol med
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  Speaker 2: and that's the whole problem with why they've got swelling.
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  Speaker 2: You take away the cholesterol med they're fine. Sometimes they'll
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  Speaker 2: put them on a blood pressure medicine. It slows the
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  Speaker 2: heart down. The heart's of muscle. That blood pressure medicine
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  Speaker 2: will damage all the muscle in the body and nothing
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  Speaker 2: works right. The heart won't pump as good as it should,
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  Speaker 2: and that can cause the congestion. So these are all
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  Speaker 2: things that I like to look at. But I've seen
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  Speaker 2: fabulous successes when they told me they had swollen ankles
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  Speaker 2: or feet, and you know, usually a lot of things
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  Speaker 2: going on a lot. Sometimes people are really stressed. I'm sure, Billy,
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  Speaker 2: you've talked to many with a lot of stress, and
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  Speaker 2: especially the PTSD crowd, and a lot of that.
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  Speaker 6: I think we could help them a lot with good
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  Speaker 6: consoling and.
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  Speaker 2: Balance those hormones back out and make sure that the
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  Speaker 2: adrenals and the thyroid, the pituitary, the hypothalmus testes or
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  Speaker 2: ovaries are all communicating and working. And then make sure
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  Speaker 2: the body's got cholesterol because cholesterol is very important. And
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  Speaker 2: so you put all this stuff together. And that's why
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  Speaker 2: I say you're always troubleshooting, because one thing may not
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  Speaker 2: be the problem may be several, and then you may
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  Speaker 2: treat one thing and it acts like you hit a
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  Speaker 2: miracle button. So hard to say. Some of the products
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  Speaker 2: that I'll use will be things like vascular care to
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  Speaker 2: make sure that there's good healthy veins, arteries, capillaries, all
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  Speaker 2: that stuff, cardioplus to make sure the oxygen oxygenating the
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  Speaker 2: blood and making sure that the heart is healthy and
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  Speaker 2: all the other tissue is healthy. Adrenomine for adrenals AC carbamide,
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  Speaker 2: This is a really good one. Sometimes the tissue is
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  Speaker 2: not doing the osmosis of letting fluid get back to
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  Speaker 2: the lymph nodes in the venus, and so it can't
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  Speaker 2: get back to the heart, and ac carbamide is one
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  Speaker 2: of those things that really helps with that interstitial fluid
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  Speaker 2: and help get rid of it. And a lot of
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  Speaker 2: fluid goes back to the limph noodes and from there
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  Speaker 2: it needs to be routed to the blood system and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of the things that lympnodes
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  Speaker 2: actually do because there's always leak each in the body,
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  Speaker 2: and then the limnodes can pull that fluid out of
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  Speaker 2: the tissue and get it back to the blood.
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  Speaker 6: So there's all these things kind of tie together.
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  Speaker 2: But drenomen ashvia Ganda great adrenal complex great again.
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  Speaker 6: Natural vitamin C.
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  Speaker 2: I like muplex because it's got the most natural vitamin
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  Speaker 2: C of any standard process product and it addresses the
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  Speaker 2: liver and the spleen and all those things. It's got
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  Speaker 2: all the vitamins and minerals, so it does a lot
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  Speaker 2: of good. But there's a lot of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: good things that we can do quickly and see what
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  Speaker 2: your body says and get rid of that swelling. It's
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  Speaker 2: very difficult sometimes because sometimes these things came on fast
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes it's been building for a long time, and
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  Speaker 2: feedback's very important. And a lot of times they want
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  Speaker 2: to put you on a water pill, they call them,
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  Speaker 2: and all.
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  Speaker 6: That does is tell us nothing.
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  Speaker 2: It just forces the fluid from your body, and we
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  Speaker 2: don't know what's wrong. But the adrenals talk to the kidneys,
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  Speaker 2: they sit on top of them and they're saying, hey, guys,
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  Speaker 2: time to get rid of some fluid.
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  Speaker 6: And maybe the kidneys aren't working so well.
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  Speaker 2: And that's again why I like diaplects as a starter,
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  Speaker 2: because it's going to help with kidneys and gallbladder and
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  Speaker 2: digestion and helping get that vitamin C to the adrenals.
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  Speaker 7: So Sissy anything, Well, it sounds like you're right, my
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  Speaker 7: life history into a book. Yeah, you know, I've I've
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  Speaker 7: never really seen the swollen ankles. I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 7: about seven or eight years ago. I remember I was
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  Speaker 7: at you know, Republican convention in Dallas, and I was
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  Speaker 7: dealing with it, but I was walking, you know, hill's
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  Speaker 7: half acre, but still a normal, healthy person should be
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  Speaker 7: able to walk, you know, all over convention centergrounds and whatnot.
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  Speaker 7: I think that that was just before I met you.
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  Speaker 7: But you know, after that, I never had that problem.
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  Speaker 7: You know, I do see people when I'm out and
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  Speaker 7: about and their ankle and mostly women. Now there is men,
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  Speaker 7: but it seems like mostly what I see is women,
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  Speaker 7: and it makes me so sad. Their ankles and lower
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  Speaker 7: legs are so swollen, and I think to myself, how
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  Speaker 7: easy it is to to treat that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's usually just a matter of troubleshooting. And
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  Speaker 2: some patients are uh quicker to bounce back, some some not.
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  Speaker 2: Some some go to get those socks, some go to
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  Speaker 2: emergency rooms. Everything's different. But I had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them come to me after they went other places and
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  Speaker 2: said nothing's working.
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  Speaker 6: They keep giving me a water pill. Well that isn't
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  Speaker 6: you know.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the pool keeps overflowing, so you go out
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  Speaker 2: and drain it a little bit every day that ain't working,
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  Speaker 2: that ain't fixing nothing right.
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  Speaker 6: So Bill, how about you.
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  Speaker 8: Just I'll listen to you talk about these stags and
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  Speaker 8: once again how interrelated all of these various parts of
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  Speaker 8: us are, and how addressing just one to be a
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  Speaker 8: good start. But we need to we need to really
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  Speaker 8: pay attention to a much broader spectrumen to to really
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  Speaker 8: treat the whole body rather than just a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I'm sure you saw many people that could
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  Speaker 2: have been diagnosed, and maybe we're diagnosed with PTSD, and
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  Speaker 2: a lot of times if I can just get to
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  Speaker 2: them and start listening to them, they'll tell me what's wrong,
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  Speaker 2: and we balance some hormones and get the adrenals back
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  Speaker 2: to healthy.
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  Speaker 6: They're fine.
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  Speaker 2: Can you imagine being, say, back in Vietnam in the jungles,
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  Speaker 2: constant fear, constant poor food, poor drink, poor sleep. You're
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  Speaker 2: wearing out the adrenal glands along with the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the body. But the adrenal glands are the ones that
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  Speaker 2: would give you that diagnosis, and rightly so, because they're
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  Speaker 2: crying out I need help.
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  Speaker 7: So question, why does Western medicine, establishment medicine refuse to
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  Speaker 7: acknowledge a dreamal fatigue.
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  Speaker 2: Well, number one, they don't have a blood test for it,
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  Speaker 2: if you ever look at your blood work. They don't
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  Speaker 2: have anything for the adrenals.
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  Speaker 6: They do have for the thyroid.
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  Speaker 2: And there's no money to be made if you do
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  Speaker 2: what I do.
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  Speaker 6: They're not going to.
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  Speaker 2: Live and be poor. Doctors like doctors like me, They're
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  Speaker 2: gonna get wealthy, even if it kills you. They're they're
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  Speaker 2: going to make their money. And a lot of these things,
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  Speaker 2: Like I said, Uh, I would love to be in
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  Speaker 2: charge of them poor guys at the VA who are
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  Speaker 2: being diagnosed with PTSD because a lot of it is
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  Speaker 2: going to be just taking care of the hormones and
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  Speaker 2: the the adrenals. And again they're gonna need somebody like
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  Speaker 2: the good head doctor here, and he's probably talked to
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  Speaker 2: many of them to help them deal with all this
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  Speaker 2: while we're getting them well, because a lot of that
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  Speaker 2: is you know, psychological as well as physical, and that stress.
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  Speaker 2: Stress is a killer. Of course, I'm talking to Susie.
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  Speaker 2: She spells stress just.
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  Speaker 7: For fun in all caps.
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  Speaker 2: So, Bill, how many how many people did you talk
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  Speaker 2: to that you would have said, we're a candidate for
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  Speaker 2: being diagnosed with PTSD.
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  Speaker 8: Well, you know, they keep keep redefining that and broadening
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  Speaker 8: that spectrum and uh and as you say, you know,
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: what what what might be be something traumatically stressful one
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: person is not for another. So it's very hard to
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: have a consistent diagnosis for that. And I think all
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: too often, uh, and not only not only psychologically, but
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: in terms of other medicine to a lot of diagnoses
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: are made way too early. And it has to do
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: with has to do with keeping up with paperwork and
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: all that kind of business. And I think that that, uh,
• 24:51
  Speaker 8: the onus that has put on on healthcare people uh
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: to adhere to insurance come protocols and forms and diagnosic
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: numbers is uh really has damaged healthcare in this country.
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: And a lot of folks get wound up getting diagnosed
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: with things that they don't have. But the problem with
• 25:18
  Speaker 8: that is once those diagnoses are given, they basically stay
• 25:22
  Speaker 8: with you for life, whether they're accurate or not.
• 25:26
  Speaker 6: And they wear it like a plaque.
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: Well it's not. It's not only so much that they
• 25:32
  Speaker 8: wear it like a plaque, but that that insurance got
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: me share information like that. That kind of stuff goes
• 25:40
  Speaker 8: around and all of a sudden. People are just pre diagnosed.
• 25:47
  Speaker 8: If they change physicians or they change healthcare practitioners, you know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 8: they've got a history that follows them around, and a
• 25:55
  Speaker 8: lot of times it's just not it's not accurate, and
• 25:57
  Speaker 8: a lot of times it's just not fair. Oh yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 8: to be able to take somebody who walks in your
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: office as a blank page and start from around zero,
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: there's not something that's encouraged a lot.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a few times, and it was very
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: embarrassingly difficult for me. Patients came to me from other
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: doctors that supposedly did what I do, and they came
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: in and showed me the products they were taking, and
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: it did not match with what they were telling me.
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, they weren't.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Bad products, they were still good products, but it was
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: not addressing what I just heard them tell me. So
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I would ask them, did you talk to the other
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: people and tell them the things you're telling me? And
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: most of them would tell you that nobody, you know,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: they kind of run you through like cattle. Nobody has
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: time to listen. So that that was always hard for
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: me to have to say, what you're telling me and
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: what you've brought me that you're.
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: Taking they don't. They don't go together.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Now, you're taking good products and they're good to take
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: if you want to take them, but they're not addressing
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: what you just told me. And usually they were a
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: little bit upset, but they they like one lady start
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: crying because she said, I was the first person that listened.
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: But once you listen, they make you look smart.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you run into trouble because they've got family members
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: who don't think you need to be treating them. But
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: they they came there with them because somebody referred them
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and they wanted to come in. And usually they come
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: in and they're already angry and I haven't even talked
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: to the person that's with them.
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: But it was funny.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: I even would get other doctors and nurses and stuff
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: come to me, and that was always fun because they
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: got a great education, but they don't study this kind
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: of stuff, and so that that was always a pleasure
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to help somebody in the medical field, especially because the
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: MD's and the nurses their organizations would not like them
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: coming to me. I don't think that would go over
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: too well, but it was always fun. But a lot
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: of these things, and you said it, well, Bill, they
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: get diagnosed too quick and incorrectly, and nobody listened to them.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: And I've said it so many times, but it's so true.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: If you listen to them and they really tell you
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: what's going on, they'll make you look very small. Sometimes
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: people forget to tell you what they're on, what they're doing,
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: when the symptoms started, what was going on. But when
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: you finally get all that put together, they could sure
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: make you look smart and you can help them a lot.
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: And there's nothing better than having.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: A patient tell you, Wow, why didn't somebody do this
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: for me a year ago?
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: Well?
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: I tell them that it wasn't their field. You went
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: to a place that didn't understand what you were talking
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: about because it's not part of their field to do
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: what I'm doing. So it was always interesting. All right, guys,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back to Doctor Grouper's Natural Health Hours. I am
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and again, and everybody is a little different. You're
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  Speaker 2: very good at giving feedback, which helps an awful lot.
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  Speaker 2: The only problem you've ever had is you don't listen
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  Speaker 2: to your own feedback. But you're real good.
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  Speaker 6: At giving it, which has always made me.
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  Speaker 2: Not have to work so hard because you helped a
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  Speaker 7: Well, I argue with myself, I'm too hard headed for
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  Speaker 2: Bill anything before we jump into anything else, or that.
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  Speaker 2: I know you guys are dying for some jokes.
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: No, we die, we die after the jokes. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 8: there's a couple of things that you raised an interesting
• 36:53
  Speaker 8: problem and as you're trunking, I'm trying to short it
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: out before I get into it a lot. But you know,
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: you talk about giving giving a medical person househip all
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: the proper information. First of all, you know when you
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  Speaker 8: when you call to make an appointment with somebody, they
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: I've had one years ago. One uh nurse receptor whoeverrances
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  Speaker 8: the phone asked me why I was coming in and
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: what seemed to be the symptoms, and this person said, well,
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: we can refer you to somebody who deals with that,
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: but that's not really our specialty. Doctors' offices don't do that.
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: They just make an appointment, and a lot of times
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: you you wind up seeing a person who might be
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: highly qualified in some other area, but not especially in
• 37:55
  Speaker 8: the one that you're needing help with. But you don't
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: find that out until it's too late. And in terms
• 38:03
  Speaker 8: of sharing a lot of information about symptomology and how
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: you're feeling and what's going on, doctors don't have time
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: for that. And it's it's a it's a problem because
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: that's why so many people are on I think are
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: on inappropriate medications or in other case getting proper follow up.
• 38:23
  Speaker 8: It's not that they're unwilling to share information. It's that
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: they're kind of waiting for the specialists, for the expert
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: to ask questions that they never ask and you know,
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: usually they seem to run with almost superficial symptomology. These
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: are the major things that I'm feeling. It doesn't have
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: anything to do with the fact that you're law more broke,
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: that your cousin died or your dog died. They don't
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: care about that because they're not trained to understand that
• 38:54
  Speaker 8: these kinds of things affect are certainly our mental health,
• 38:59
  Speaker 8: but certainly are physical health too. And as I said before,
• 39:02
  Speaker 8: you can't. You can't separate mental health and physical health.
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: PEO pretend to want to do that, you know, certainly
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: as a therapist, I had people come in who were
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: looking for some sort of guidance with emotional mental problems, challenges, whatever.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: But there's always more and you can't do that in
• 39:30
  Speaker 8: fifteen minutes. To make a proper diagnosis with some folks
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: that came in would take sometimes weeks because the flow,
• 39:40
  Speaker 8: the EBB and flow of centromology is so gradual that
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: if you base that on an hour interview, you're probably
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: going to be wrong. There are going to be times
• 39:51
  Speaker 8: when you're right, but some of this kind of centromology
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: is and such a gradual both to it that unless
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: you're willing to spend sometimes weeks with somebody working with him,
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: that you're going to be able to really address what
• 40:12
  Speaker 8: their issues are, because that's the first opportunity you have
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: to really experience what maybe they don't have the vocabulary
• 40:18
  Speaker 8: to tell you. All right, it's a very difficult spot.
• 40:23
  Speaker 8: And I and I think that you know a lot
• 40:26
  Speaker 8: of times when when folks go to go to physicians,
• 40:28
  Speaker 8: they figure it's you know, one stop shopping, and no,
• 40:32
  Speaker 8: that's not true if you go to specialists. Even I
• 40:37
  Speaker 8: was talking to a shower last week that I've known
• 40:39
  Speaker 8: for a while who's had some had some issues, and
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: he said he's he's been to three cardiologists and fire
• 40:48
  Speaker 8: them all because they keep telling them of different things.
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: We kind of have the expectation that training is uniform
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: and it isn't what what one doctor will tell you
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: another doctor or will not. He'll tell you something different.
• 41:02
  Speaker 8: Where does that leave us? Where are we supposed to
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: go with that? We don't know. I can't even personally
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: experienced that with chiropractic, that one. And this is many
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: many years ago, treating for a back issue, and the
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: back issue was affecting my walk, my knees, my gait
• 41:24
  Speaker 8: and it turned out that it was entirely something else.
• 41:27
  Speaker 8: The treatments were effective. I wound up going to somebody
• 41:29
  Speaker 8: else took care of the problem in about a month.
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: So it's there's you know, we're expecting consistency and treatment
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: and that's it ain't happening. I don't know what the
• 41:42
  Speaker 8: answer to that is. I mean, because every every physician,
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: every position, every chiropractor, or every get us is they
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: all have their own take on their field. That's just
• 41:53
  Speaker 8: human nature, right, But how do we find the right
• 41:56
  Speaker 8: match this hit or miss? That's my rip on that.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you brought that up because when I
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: went into practice, I didn't like hearing about these people
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: that thought they were experts or want to be a specialist,
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: because I felt like that wasn't fair to patients. And
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I decided I was going to specialize in everything.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: So when a chiropractic patient came.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: To me and they'd been to others, and boy I
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: got a lot of them. They said, well the other
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: place they did five minutes of stuff and I was gone.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: I said, yeah, that's the management system they teach them,
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: that run you through like cattle to make more money.
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: I said, I'm not going to do that.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to check everything from head to toe every visit,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: no matter what you tell me, Because a lot of
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: times I would adjust somebody and they would say, oh,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: I forgot to tell you that that was bothering me,
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: And I said, well, I understand. Bill said his knees
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: are hurting. Well, there's an it band on the outside
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: here that's tiered in a piece of barbed wire, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: it's pulling on the knee because your little back has
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: got a rotation of the pelvis and you're compressing those
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: nerve roots and the bodies trying to tell us. So
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: I would check everything every time, feet, ankles, all the
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: way to the cervical spine. Sometimes I worked on.
• 43:25
  Speaker 6: The sinuses and TMJ joints.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: But I checked everything every time, and that eliminated people
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: having to go somewhere else. And my first visit, if
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: it was chiropractic, they were in my office an hour,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: but half of that time with my therapists and half
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: of it with me while I figured out what was going.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: On and what to tell the therapists.
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: To work on.
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: If they came in for nutritional.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: Stuff, nutritional console general problems. I did two hour consults
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: and we covered everything. Now I didn't make a lot
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: of money, but my attitude was, you see these people
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the rest of our lives, and you make a little money,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: and they don't have to pay a fortune every visit
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: because a lot of offices are thinking how much money
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: they can make and they might not ever see you again.
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: And like you said, Bill, ten or fifteen minutes.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: And they're done. And what prescription do I writer or
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: what medicine do I give them? Or do I send
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: them to a physical therapy? Some patients that I saw
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: were going to physical therapy, And that's a great thing.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: Once we fix the problem, and you have to fix
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: it internally. Chiropractic is not just physical adjusting and manipulating.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: You have to understand what to give for the inside
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: so the disc can heal, so the nerves can heal,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: so the facet joints are good, so that from head
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to toe everything is working together and healthy. A lot
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: of people would say, well, they didn't adjust me like
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: you did, and they.
• 45:13
  Speaker 6: Didn't give me anything. Well, we're going to take care
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: of that.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: And like I said, and a lot of times people say, well,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: but he said he was a specialist yeah. He was
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: a specialist, all right, specialists at taking your money in
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: a sharp amount of time. I would gladly spend two
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: hours doing a nutritional consult and we would test everything.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: We covered milk and sugars and sea salt and goat
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: milk and cow milk, and all the vitamins that are taken,
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: and all the over the counter stuff they've bought, and
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: we covered it all. The most I ever had was
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: the lady walked in with about thirty something bottles in
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: a bag, and most of it was just a waste
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: of her money. And so I would go through it
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: with them, look at ingredients. And there was times where
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: I might not even have known what they were taking.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I never seen this, but they saw it on the
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: internet or watched the commercial or something, and I would
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: tell them, here's the section I wouldn't give to you
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: if they paid me money. There's a couple of things
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: you've got here, not too bad maybe if you want
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: to finish them, but you have to make your own decision.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: I didn't give those things to you. I'm not going
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: to tell you what to do with them. And most,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: i'd say nine out of ten times people walked over
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: and dumped all that stuff.
• 46:43
  Speaker 6: Into trash can. They weren't gonna taken no more so,
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: but it's very important.
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Like you said, Bill, too many people in and out,
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: and what we learned a long time ago, there's these
• 46:57
  Speaker 2: companies out there that each sees doctors, the management system,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: and the patient should not be in your office more
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: than about fifteen minutes, so you could see a lot
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: of patients. I never could see that many patients in
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a day because I took my time and I tried
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: to do it like I was the patient. And like
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: I said, they made me look smart many times. Many
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: times they and Susie's done this. Susie's told me exactly
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: what was wrong, but she never heard a word she said.
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: And that's what was happening to them.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: They were telling they were opening their heart and soul,
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: but nobody ever.
• 47:40
  Speaker 6: Heard the words they were.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: The doctors were probably thinking, I'm playing golf on Wednesday,
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: and I can put them on this medication and maybe
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: they'll come back and I might see them another visit.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: And too many things going on, and the patient really.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Needs to be important. But when you came into my
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: mind office, it was different, and I had many a
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: patients tell me, I cannot believe that you checked all that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I didn't even tell you about that. And I said,
• 48:10
  Speaker 2: that's why I do it, because people forget, they remember
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: the most current thing that's bothering them and forget about
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: all that other stuff.
• 48:19
  Speaker 6: And that other stuff ties together, all.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Right, Anything before we go to and I know you're
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: dying for the jokes guys, Anything before we go to
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the jokes city.
• 48:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I was that. I was that woman
• 48:34
  Speaker 7: that an example of that woman that came in with
• 48:40
  Speaker 7: a thirty bottle. But she was a slacker. Let me
• 48:43
  Speaker 7: tell you. I had a whole area of my kitchen
• 48:49
  Speaker 7: counter that was designated to bottles. And you know, I
• 48:54
  Speaker 7: get online, I would research. I didn't. It was a
• 48:58
  Speaker 7: given that I had quit trusting doctors. And I think
• 49:03
  Speaker 7: I had a lack of trust for a long long time.
• 49:06
  Speaker 7: And I kind of have pinpointed it back to when
• 49:10
  Speaker 7: my kids were small and with the vaccines and antibiotics,
• 49:15
  Speaker 7: and I just had an issue with that and and hearing, well,
• 49:20
  Speaker 7: this is viral. There's nothing we can do about a virus,
• 49:22
  Speaker 7: and you just gotta, you know, just just gotta let
• 49:25
  Speaker 7: it run its course. And so you know, you know,
• 49:29
  Speaker 7: trying to be you know, a good wife and and
• 49:32
  Speaker 7: and being you know, trying to save money. And you
• 49:36
  Speaker 7: know I was shopping mostly at Swanson. Well, oh my gosh,
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: you can go to your search engine. You can decide
• 49:45
  Speaker 7: what you have. You go to Swanson, do a search
• 49:48
  Speaker 7: like okay, all right, I'll get that. And uh, you know, frankly,
• 49:56
  Speaker 7: it wasn't hard to convince me to tried the standard
• 50:03
  Speaker 7: process and the many are products because I was spending
• 50:08
  Speaker 7: more money even at that discount site for all that
• 50:13
  Speaker 7: fractionated and artificial junk than I would have over standard process.
• 50:19
  Speaker 7: And I'll say the only and I threw away all
• 50:22
  Speaker 7: of it after I met you and we started talking
• 50:25
  Speaker 7: and figuring out things, and you know, it started with hormones,
• 50:29
  Speaker 7: and you know, I was even buying the wild Dam
• 50:35
  Speaker 7: or you know whatever. I mean. I kind of sort
• 50:40
  Speaker 7: of had a clue, but the product was wrong, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 7: I kind of think it's like putting, you know, gasoline
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: in a diesel engine. I was just I had the
• 50:53
  Speaker 7: wrong product. And about the only thing I kept and
• 50:58
  Speaker 7: I still want to keep on hand is olive leaf extract.
• 51:03
  Speaker 7: But you know, that was my journey, and I don't
• 51:07
  Speaker 7: mind it admitting it that you know, I dumped all
• 51:10
  Speaker 7: that stuff in the trash can too.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we have all of leaf extract in a
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: few products, so it's it's a good thing if you
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: got one.
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: You like.
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: The problem you ran into and a lot of people
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: run into is they had the right name, like wild Yem,
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: but it was junk if we can afford, so you
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: know they that that was that was the big thing.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: They they knew the names, but they were buying junk
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: bill anything. Nope, nope, all right, Well, we got a
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: couple of jokes here, and I know you guys are dying,
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: and I hate to leave you hanging, says he.
• 51:53
  Speaker 6: Now this one made me think. A Huntley.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: Guy goes in to the insurance it's office and he's
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: gonna buy some life insurance and they're going through all
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: these questions, where do you work, what do you do?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: What kind of hobbies do you have? And he comes
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: down to this one question and.
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: He says, do you do anything dangerous?
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: He said, there's been a few times where I disagreed
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: with my wife. I like that, all right. Question. If
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: a TV weatherman has cataracts, will all of his forecasts
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: be partly cloudy.
• 52:44
  Speaker 8: Boy.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: If someone steals your identity and you killed him, did
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: you commit suicide? That was funny.
• 52:58
  Speaker 6: I don't care what you guys. All right, And here's
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: the best one at all.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: This one's kind of a public service announcement too. This
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: is this is important. Just recently them scientists are so
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: called scientists got slapped for abusing I believe it was
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: beagle hounds. And and they're always abusing rats. I've always
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: said the most dangerous thing to rats heal to human
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: lab guys. Well, so now with all the stuff putting
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: them in the on the the pressure cooker, they've had
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: to reevaluate what they do. So they decided that the
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: scientists now are going to use politicians.
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: In their lab test. And there was three reasons for that.
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: One, there's a lot more politicians than there are rats.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: Number two, there's some things rats just won't do. And
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: number three, you're not gonna get attached to the politician
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: like you might the rat. I like that. You know,
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: you brought up products and you thought you were buying
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: like wild yem and stuff.
• 54:26
  Speaker 5: Medi Herb.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: Is amazing. Doctor Dobbins always said, if you want to
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: buy something cheap and junk, and doesn't work.
• 54:37
  Speaker 6: You can go anywhere.
• 54:38
  Speaker 2: And find it.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: They'll have the right name.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: But medi Herb and centered process, but especially medi Herb
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: because they're more on that herbal side is the best
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: of the best at finding the right product that is
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: the best. And they had a problem. They were buying
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: white peone from some Chinese company years ago, and white
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: peone is used a lot in women's health, especially with
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: menopause and all that stuff. Well, they would buy it
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: and they'd bring it into their lab do the quality
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: control on before they ever going to put it in
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: a product, and it never passed. And they test it
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: every time, they get another arder and they check it again,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: and they had to keep sending stuff back.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: So finally they got with the company and said, your
• 55:41
  Speaker 6: stuff's not passing. Must what's going on. Well, it turned
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: out that.
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: They were taking this natural white peone and bleaching it
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: so it would look better, and that's why it didn't work.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: So naturally, medi Herb did not use them ever again.
• 56:01
  Speaker 6: But it had the right name.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: They could have sold it all day long and women
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: would have been complaining that it didn't work, and they'd
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: have thought. And that's something I hear a lot too. Well.
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: I tried that product and it don't work. Who would
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you get it from?
• 56:18
  Speaker 6: Where are the ingredients?
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: I saw a thing the other day where they were saying,
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: you need this vitamin. It'll restore your health, it'll give
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: you back your youth. So I went and looked at
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: the ingredients, and they had some pretty good ingredients down
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: there towards the bottom. But at the top they had
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: a scarbag acid for vitamin C, mixed to kafferalls for
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: vitamin E, calcium carbonate. They had beta carotene for vitamin A,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: and that's because they knew people were looking for vitamin A,
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: and they knew people didn't understand the chemistry of any
• 56:59
  Speaker 2: of those vitamins. But there is beta carotene in vitamin A,
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: but it is not vitamin A. There is a scarbage acid,
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: but it's not vitamin C. There are mixed to coferalls
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: but it's not vitamin E. And calcium carbonate is a
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: natural it's limestone, but it's not what your body wants.
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: I could give you a tablet of calcium lactate and
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: you need to eat the size of the house and
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: calcium carbonate probably to get anything out of it. So
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: that's why so many people are trying so hard and
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: spending all their hard money and can't get better. And
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: that's why years ago people said, well, how did you
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: decide on Standard Process and Mediar and a couple other
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: companies that I use. And I said, well, in the beginning,
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: everybody sent their representative to my office when they heard
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I did nutrition and basically I did family practice. I
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: did everything, and I would look at their products and
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: would I was learning back then, so a lot of
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: times I wasn't sure. But what I quickly found out
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: was people wouldn't get better on some of these products.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: And then, thank god, I went to a seminar that
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I did not want to go to because they had
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: told me that I didn't have to renew my education
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: credits until the next year. And then something happened. They
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: changed the rule.
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: They notified all of us.
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: This was like November that I had to have these
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: credits by December, and I went to some foreign country
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: called Dallas and took a seminar for the whole weekend
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: and it was Standard Process and medi Herb and doctor
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: geniome teaching about pediatrics and geriatrics and how to have
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: a baby the right way, and so many things I
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: learned in that weekend.
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: But the light bulb went off.
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I walked out of there that weekend and I knew
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: the products I needed or Mani Urban Standard Process, and
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: there's a couple other products I used from some companies
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: because we don't care a little different. But Madi Urban
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Standard Process have not let me down. I've had difficulties
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: with loved ones and family members, and TV commercials and
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: internet stuff sometimes get in the way of helping people,
• 59:52
  Speaker 2: but the products have never let me down.
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: All right, Well, it's just about break time.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Bill, you got a weekly topic up your sleeve?
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  Speaker 7: Yep?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 8: A little bit?
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: Uh, Susie or Billy the one you got anything before
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  Speaker 6: we go.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 7: To break now, just kind of a reminder to listeners
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 7: that Standard process has been around for what one hundred years?
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 7: Pretty close?
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Doctor Lee came up with the first product, catile
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: in in nineteen twenty nine. Okay, so it's it's been
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: out there, and maybe we need to talk about cattle
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  Speaker 2: in one of these nights.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 7: Then I saw her face.
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  Speaker 7: I been lost.
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  Speaker 10: the child?
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  Speaker 6: Welcome back to Doctor groupa's Natural Health Hours.
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  Speaker 2: It is June.
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  Speaker 6: Eighteenth, and it is.
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  Speaker 2: Time for Bill and his weekly topic. So we're not
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  Speaker 8: You know, the bass player in that piece is a
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: really good, really good musician. You know, when you play
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 8: play these songs, I'm always kind of listening to their
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 8: background musicians. I've talked about this before, but that guy
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: was good. That guy was good. And it's interesting to
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 8: me how occasionally, you know, I'll be thinking about something
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 8: to talk about on this segment, and you will, you
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 8: will kind of get into it, uh, pretty good before
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: I even get there. And of course you never talk
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 8: about what I'm going to talk about. That's always kind
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 8: of a deal. But we talked was thinking this week
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 8: about the difference between listening and hearing, and you know,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 8: you talk a lot about listening tonight and how I think.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 8: I think so many folks and I'm going to say
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 8: physicians are certainly prime in this group for lots of reasons.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 8: But they appear to be listening, but they're really not
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: hearing what what a lot of folks tell them, and
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 8: what's what's the difference? I ran into this, uh frequently,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: and it was always it was always kind of fascinating,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 8: and sometimes it was amusing to check in with a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 8: patient and the next visit to see what what they
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 8: recalled from the prior visit, because very frequently what I
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: thought was accomplished and in a session and in the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: office was not what the patient took away at all,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 8: something totally different. And the one that came to mind
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 8: was I had a fella come in who was having
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 8: some relational issues and he said that the latest blow
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: up was how he how he loaded the silverware in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: a dishwasher, because that was his job. It was his
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 8: job was to clean up the kitchen after dinner, and
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 8: he loaded the dish that the dishwasher, and apparently he
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 8: always put the ties of the fork forks down, but
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: he was told that was wrong, that the times always
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: needed to be up, and that it was just stupid
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: to go ahead and do it the way he'd always
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 8: done it because it was wrong. And a way it
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: all went, and we talked about a lot of other
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 8: things in terms of his relationship and the difficulties that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: arise at every relationship. And I saw him the next week.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 8: I said, well, what did you how did the week
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 8: of What did you should to carry away? He said, well,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 8: you know, we talked all about how to load a dishwasher. Well,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 8: we talked about a lot of other stuff that I
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: thought was a lot more important. But that's what he
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: took away because that was the focus of And you know,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: loading the dishwasher was not the problem. The problem was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: a power struggle. But what he heard was his was
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 8: the right way to look the dishwasher. I didn't tell
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 8: him that was the right way, but that's what he
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 8: took away from it, was that it was the right
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: way because he didn't want to get stabbed by the
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: times in the fort. How how we how we listen
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 8: to what people tell us, whether it's it's casual conversation
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 8: or or something more serious, there's no constant. It depends
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 8: on where we are at that moment, what's gone on
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: that day, how we were brought up, the things that
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: we learned to listen to. It's it's a very you know,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: we we we hear all kinds of noises. Now if
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 8: I if I'm outside, I can probably identify ten or
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: twelve different sounds that are going on all the time.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: Well I listen to each one of them. Well, no,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: I know they're there, but I don't. I don't really
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 8: focus on that. And I think in terms of of
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: healthcare our from a practitioners perspective, I have to do.
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 8: I have to work very hard to hear what's being said,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: and even more so what's not being said. You've talked
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 8: about that tonight. Put a lot together by what people
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: tell you, but you put a lot together by what
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 8: they don't tell you. And it was in terms of
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 8: where we go with that information, it's it's never as
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: I say, it's never a constant. It changes, it changes
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: sometimes minute by minute. I had and I know I've
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 8: told this story before, but I've had had a couple
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 8: come in and they were contentious, to say the least,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 8: and about halfway through they started yelling at each other
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: and she stood up and got moved over to him,
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: and he stood up, and I thought, you know, I'm
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 8: not gonna I'm not gonna survive this. This is going
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: to get to be really ugly in here. But she
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: said something that was really profound and it has stayed
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 8: with me for quite a few years. But she said
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 8: to him, you know, you're so busy thinking about what
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: you're gonna say next, you don't hear a damn thing
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 8: that I say to you. And I think in terms
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 8: of diagnosing and doctors do this, we all, you know,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 8: we all are given a certain amount of information and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 8: we begin to exclude some possibility. That's sort of an
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: if then list we listen to people talk about about symptomology,
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: and we talk about her, they talk about their problems,
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: and as they they do that, we begin to focus
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 8: that information down into pretty specific diagnostic capabilities. Where do
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: we go with that? And the tough part for many people,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: I think is to continue to listen, do not shut
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: off the information that is coming into them because they
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 8: think they've already got the answer now. And as I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 8: said a little bit ago, you know, I just occasionally
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 8: you could make a good, accurate diagnosis fairly quickly or
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: whatever that means, in an hour or in a week
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 8: or sometimes fifteen minutes, you know what, But so many
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: issues take so much more time because information people are
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: people are are reticent to just of bumb it up
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: all the information if they figure that they don't they
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 8: give us too much. You're maybe, but I don't. He
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 8: doesn't need to know that. That's not important. And in fact,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 8: it may be something that we need to know and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 8: it may be very important, but to them it doesn't
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: seem so. And how do we how do we enable
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 8: I don't like that word, But how do we enable
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: a patient to understand that any information they give us
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: is important. If we don't need it, that's our decision.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 8: But for them to feel to make the decision that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: I don't need to know something you've had this, You've
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 8: talked about this many times. Is if they make a
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 8: decision to not give you certain kinds of information, that
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 8: handicaps your ability to really understand the issues, understand the
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 8: problems and listening and listening is is nothing that because
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 8: we all do it naturally, right, I mean, we all
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: hear stuff, right, so we're all listening. But how do
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: we listen? And this is something that's was never talked
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 8: about when I was in school. How do we how
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: do we how do we shut out the extraneous noise
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 8: and really pay attention to what we're being told? And
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 8: my experience fairly early on in my practice got to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 8: be that I didn't need to respond to everything that
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 8: was said. If I if I responded to something I
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 8: was I was not listening. If I was thinking of
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 8: something I needed to say. That's why, you know, not
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: everybody in my business take notes. And I always would
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 8: tell my patience on the first I said, I write
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 8: stuff down because a lot of times you're talking about
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 8: things and there's something that I want to come back to,
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: and I'll make a note to come back to it.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 8: I don't want to forget it, but I don't want
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 8: to interrupt the flow of where this conversation is going.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 8: How do we how do we train ourselves keep our
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: mouths shut? How do we how do we how do
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: we learn to shut up and let let the person
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 8: tell us what you've said? Many times, you know, if
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 8: you give them enough chance, you have to tell you
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 8: everything you need to know. Most times folks don't let
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: us tell everything we want to tell They've already made
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: their mind up. And it does I'm not talking specifically healthcare,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 8: but kind you know, it just turned terms of general
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 8: casual conversations. You know, part of our part of our
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 8: mind is listening, and part of our mind is thinking
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 8: about what we're going to say next. And how do
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 8: we shut down that second part therapeutically? How do we
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 8: shut down that second part of the of our mind
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 8: about what it is that we're going to say next
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 8: and really focus on what's being told to us? How
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 8: we learn? How do we learn to listen? How do
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: we teach ourselves listen, and of course the situation, how
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 8: the situation where in whish that conversation is occurring. It
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 8: has a great deal with how we how we listen
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 8: to it. I've we've all known people who are making
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 8: a point, but they take so long to get to
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: the point because they're telling a story. By the time
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: we get to the point, you think, my god, what
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: was this all about? It was just went on for error.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: Why didn't you just get to it? Well, because that's
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 8: their style, and to to work hard at developing the patient,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 8: the patients. Let your patient proceed in their own terminology.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 8: I think it off rack. Yeah, we need to bring
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 8: it back on to focus a little bit. But you know,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 8: I think for a lot of people to talk about
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 8: stuff that's bothering them physically or mentally, it's difficult. We
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 8: weren't raised to do that. We weren't raised to talk
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 8: about ourselves. So to begin to talk about things that
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 8: are troubling us to a stranger, to a doctor, to
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 8: a healthcare it ain't easy. And sometimes folks have to
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 8: ease into that and to find some comfort level for
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 8: them to be able to really feel that it's okay
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 8: to open up that they're not going to get dumped on,
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 8: they're not going to get judged, they're not going to
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 8: have be told that they're stupid or that silly or
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 8: could bother me with all insinformation. It takes long time
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 8: to develop a relationship between a patient and and a provider.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: Whether it's it's with a lawyer or a banker or
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 8: your car mechanic, you know that it takes it takes
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 8: a little bit to build a relationship. And until that
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: relationship is built, that comfort level is not there that
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 8: it's going to allow a kind of a non judgmental
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 8: honesty to occur between between two people. And it doesn't
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 8: matter what kind of relationship it is, whether it's a
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 8: marriage or whatever it is, it's it takes time, and
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 8: it takes It takes an ability to feel that it's
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 8: okay to be vulnerable and that you're not going to
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 8: be thought of as being stupid or petty or vicious
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 8: or vindictive, but to be just accepted for somebody who's
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 8: talking about something that's important to them. So listening she
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 8: started out so much this evening talking about is it's
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 8: a two edged sword, because as I said, it's something
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 8: that we all do we all hear things? We all
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 8: listen to stuff, But how do we how do we
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 8: teach ourselves to I like to call it critical listening.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 8: How do we let somebody tell us without interrupting and
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 8: allow them to go on, so that we really hear
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 8: beyond the noise, that we really hear what it is
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 8: that they're trying to tell us. That maybe they don't
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: quite have the courage or the vocabulary to do it.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 8: And I think that's where a lot of physicians fail.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 8: They might be great scientists, they may understand the chemistry,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 8: they might understand the psychological theories perfectly well. But so
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 8: many times, it has seemed going to conferences I heard
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: this so much. They would they would jump right into
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 8: putting somebody into a into a theoretical slot so that
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: they could deal with them, and missed the point, and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 8: missed the point. It's just critical listening is something that's
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 8: not taught, is not talked about. It's just that keep
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 8: getting When I was a student and we had to
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 8: do our internships, that there was a young girl who
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 8: was doing her internship in what we used to call
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 8: them nursing home. I don't know what they call it,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 8: but that's what we called it back then. And she
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 8: said she had a woman come in who was really depressed,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 8: and she saw her three times and she was still
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 8: depressed and she couldn't understand where she failed. Well, she
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 8: probably didn't even know her first name by the end
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 8: of the third session. How do we learn to just
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 8: be quiet and to listen? And again, it doesn't matter
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 8: what the relationship is. So often when people are talking
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 8: to us about things that are important to us, we just.
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 2: Need to be quiet.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 8: We don't need to respond. We don't need to encourage,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 8: we don't need to argue, we don't need to discourage.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 8: We just need to listen. But really listen, listen to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 8: what they're saying. It's kind of a fuzzy art anyway,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 8: There you go.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: Good stuff, And what things that helped me.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: Do some of the things you were talking about is
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: I work with some really good electricians in my ears,
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: and we all had a great education, a lot of experience.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: I was always in maintenance or troubleshooting. I never cared
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 2: for construction or installation kind of stuff, but I, you know,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: he had to do some of that. But when I
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: was a young kid fresh out of navy, electrical electronics school.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: On my first ship, a guy named Doc Schultz. Him
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: and I would get a work arder. I was on
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: a repair ship and we'd get a work harder and
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: we'd go and I was ready to charge because I'm fresh.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: Out of school and want to go do good. And
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: he would say, slow down.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: It's usually something simple and stupid that somebody missed, because
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: people try to make things too complicated. And I'll be
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: damned if that guy wasn't so right. And he trained
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: me so well that I could go on one of
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: them ships and they think I was so smart, and
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: it was just he just taught me to look for
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: basic stuff. And then working as electrician and plants and everything,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: like when I worked for Budweiser, and I worked for
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: Cameron and Iron at some other companies, and to work
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: for the Light company, I learned when you went into
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: an area to work on a piece of equipment, say
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: that you got a call and something's down. And like
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: at Budweiser, I worked in the brewing side, so everything
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: was processes and some of the guys that did bad
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: would walk in and they would act like, I'm the electrician,
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: I'll figure this out, and I always Thanks to Doc
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: Schultz teaching me that way back, I had learned to
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: walk over to the operator who ran the equipment, the process,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: whatever was going on, and ask him, what do you
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: think's going on? He didn't know what was broke, but
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 2: he knew the process, and he knew how to point
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: you to the right spot and make me look a
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: lot small harder because I didn't have to spend forever
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 2: trying to figure everything out. And so I used that
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: in practice, and I used to tell my patients, if
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: I'm talking and you think of something that's really important,
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 2: interrupt me.
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 6: Shut me up, because it's more important that I hear
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 6: from you.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: And I go back to Doc Schultz on my USS
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: Piedmont when I was a young kid, and he taught
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: me that basis and I used it for the framework
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: and it helps so much, and I owed him a lot.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: He did me good.
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 6: So is he anything on what all Bill.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: Was talking about?
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 7: It's so it was a really really interesting subject. You know.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 7: The I guess the thing that rang so true to
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 7: me was the difference between hearing and listening. And you know,
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 7: you can't apply that over nearly every single aspect of life.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 7: And uh, you know, I think I listened to everyone
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 7: else except myself.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you're good at that.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 7: Uh.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Somebody taught me a long time ago, and I don't
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: remember who said this to me, but they said, too.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 5: Many people.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: Are sitting there thinking what they're going to say when
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: they get a chance to talk, instead of listening and
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: learning because they want to impress or speak or the
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: spotlight on them.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 6: They can't help it, and so that that always. We
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: had a kid in medical.
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: School with me that of course a lot of them
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: were younger than me because I went to medical school later.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: But we called him Spotlight.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 6: He knew everything he knew.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, he was smart, but he always asked questions
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: that he knew the answer to, so we called him spotlighter.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: I think I nicknamed him. I mustn't nicknamed him that,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: and it stuck. But good guy, nice guy, way smarter
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: than I mean, he probably didn't miss no questions on
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: any test.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 6: But he just he couldn't just eat.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: He needed to tell everybody that he knew everything. So
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: it was always funny. But you're right, Bill, that's that's
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: a big thing. Is like you said, one patient, you're thinking,
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: this is what he should have took away, that's what
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: you took away from new session. And the next week
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: he comes in and he's thinking, he taught me how
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: to do the dishwasher, and that that's the way people
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: look at things. I remember somebody that was they were
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: a pastor, uh couple, pastor and his wife at a church.
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: And I didn't say this, and I wasn't thinking it,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: but we were just talking about different things. And he said,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: please don't tell us it's in her head. And I said,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: first off, that's not what.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 6: I was thinking.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: But I said, I kind of find that funny for
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: a man who works in a church as a pastor
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: not to have faith and believe in things that maybe
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: aren't right there where you can reach out and touch them.
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: But I said, that's not what I was thinking. I
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: did not think that it was in her head. I
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: knew it's problems so pretty interesting. But listening is a
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: big thing. And I had people tell me that worked
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: with me that interrupting was wrong. But I felt like
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: if they were sitting there and something popped in their
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: head that was important interrupted me. Go ahead, You're more
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: important at this moment. I need to hear from you,
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 2: and especially in my field, like yours, Bill, and even
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: Susie with working in their business and Steve and his
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: It's important that we get feedback from people. It's important
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: that they help us figure out whatever's going on, whatever
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: we need to do. And if you come in, like
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: I said, some of the electricians I worked with that
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: weren't as good would walk in and they didn't even
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 2: talk to the operators running the equipment or this stuff
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: the process. But I always did, and those guys appreciated that,
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: and we worked together well because they knew he might
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: not know that the limit switch is screwed up on
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: that valve that puts fear into the into the tank,
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 2: but he knew there was a problem here because it
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: didn't do what it should have done.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 6: And I let him help me all they wanted.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: We got to be great friends with all the operators,
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 2: and they made us look a lot smarter.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 8: So I.
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: Can't imagine you Bill, who said you were in there
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: and they almost got into like a fight. That would
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 2: be very uncomfortable. Yeah, I'd ask him, do you mind
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 2: if I light a cigar and bought some Scots funny stuff? Yeah,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: that that could get kind of hairy, and it's funny
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: men and women speak different languages.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 6: I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: Most of us men are pretty simple, pretty basic, and
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: women nobody could figure out. Nobody knows.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: I saw a John Wayne move where he had adopted this.
• 1:29:04
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• 1:29:06
  Speaker 2: gotten killed, and he raised him, and the boy had
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: ran and he's a grown man now, and they had
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: ran into this group of ex Confederate soldiers, and the
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: boy and this lady they start being attracted to each other.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: And he was telling John Wayne, he said, you taught
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: me all that, he said, taught you all that? He said,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: I taught you how to survive the winter and deal
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: with men and hunt and fish, But nobody knows about women.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are back. Welcome back to doctor Chripper's
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  Speaker 2: Natural Health Hours. It is June eighteenth, and we've got
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  Speaker 2: Susie Bill our producer Steve hiding in the background, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm here with you and we're getting ready to go
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  Speaker 2: to SUSY's recipes in just a moment. But this is
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  Speaker 2: the time in the show, being the nice guy that
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: I am, that I try to help her with the
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: company name because she's usually forgotten by now. So Susy,
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  Speaker 2: I know for sure that the name of the company
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  Speaker 2: is Rooftops and Drainage Instruction.
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  Speaker 7: That's pretty funny, uh close, But no, cigar, It's renovation
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  Speaker 7: and design custom homes. We do remodel and new construction,
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  Speaker 7: kind of specialize in rural properties rants properties. And we're
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  Speaker 7: located in the Texas hill Country and you can go
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  Speaker 7: to doccrupa dot com. Go to the about page, scroll
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  Speaker 7: down about three quarters of a way. There's a link
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  Speaker 7: that'll take you to our website and we can be
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  Speaker 2: All right, take it away, put us in your kitchen, Okay.
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  Speaker 7: So this is a molly pie. It's kind of unlike
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  Speaker 7: a traditional well it's a taco pie. So it's there's
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  Speaker 7: also taco pies, Tobalay pies whatever you want call them.
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  Speaker 7: They have like a massa or a corn meal toping.
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  Speaker 7: And this doesn't you know, this is a little easier
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  Speaker 7: on the waist. They call it carnivore. But one of
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  Speaker 7: the themes we've been sticking trying to hit upon, you know,
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  Speaker 7: every now and then, is you know, budget friendly. You know,
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  Speaker 7: beef is not down in price by any means. And
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  Speaker 7: this recipe calls for a pound of ground meat, and
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  Speaker 7: ground chuck is better, more flavor, and it'll make about
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  Speaker 7: eight to nine slices, you know, and if you did
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  Speaker 7: it with a you know, a nice salad on the side,
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  Speaker 7: that's that's pretty far in your budget. So, like I said,
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  Speaker 7: a pound of ground chuck and three tablespoons of homemade
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  Speaker 7: taco seasoning. I've discussed this before. It's super easy. You know,
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  Speaker 7: get your a Mason jar, go to Pinterest and do
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  Speaker 7: some search and and just make up your own taco seasoning.
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  Speaker 7: The taco seasoning in you know, jars or packets have
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 7: fillers in them that you don't want to eat. It's
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 7: got stuff in there to keep it from compacting, and
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  Speaker 7: you don't want that. So, you know, three tablespoons of
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  Speaker 7: your own homemade taco seasoning, salt and pepper, and then
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  Speaker 7: that's just the meat based. You're gonna brown all of
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  Speaker 7: that and then put it into your baking dish, and
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  Speaker 7: then you're going to uh make your your topping. And
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  Speaker 7: that is six large eggs, a cup of heavy cream,
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  Speaker 7: a quarter teaspoon of garlic powder, and it says optional.
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  Speaker 7: Why would it be optional? And then the next is
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  Speaker 7: a quarter teaspoon of ground Cooman and it says optional. No,
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  Speaker 7: it's not optional. Cooman is so good for you and
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  Speaker 7: it's so flavorful. I get it at natural Grocers in bulk.
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  Speaker 7: I mean it's not a ten ten gallon container, but
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 7: I mean it's it's a it's a big package. And
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  Speaker 7: so I get the seeds and then what I do
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 7: is I take a black skillet and I get it hot,
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  Speaker 7: and I pour those seeds in there, and I just
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  Speaker 7: keep stirring it. Don't walk away from it. All you're
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  Speaker 7: doing is toasting those seeds and your house is gonna
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  Speaker 7: smell fabulous. Let it cool, and then you can put
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  Speaker 7: it in like some sort of a grinder and put
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  Speaker 7: it into a mason jar and put a label on it.
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  Speaker 7: You got Coomen and it's no comparison to the stuff
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  Speaker 7: you can get at the store. And then you're gonna
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  Speaker 7: want one and a half cups of shredded cheddar cheese
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 7: and divide that so like three quarters and three quarters,
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 7: and then it gives you some serving you know, options
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  Speaker 7: with sour cream or avocado, shredded lettuce. First and foremost,
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  Speaker 7: you're gonna have to preheat your oven to three fifty
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  Speaker 7: and then, like I said, it's so simple, just brown
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  Speaker 7: your ground meat, you know, with your with your salt
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  Speaker 7: and your pepper, and this will fill a like a
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  Speaker 7: nine inch pie pan. And so then you're going to
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  Speaker 7: it does say to to grease your pan with you know,
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  Speaker 7: some butter, avocado oil, whatever, and don't don't skip on
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  Speaker 7: doing the edge just because of the the egg mixture
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 7: can can stick pretty good, you know. Blend up those
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  Speaker 7: eggs really good. Well, maybe even in a magic bullet
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  Speaker 7: or with your with your whisk, you know, really really
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  Speaker 7: go on it, uh, go at it, you know vigorously.
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  Speaker 7: You want it to be kind of frothy and all
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  Speaker 7: mixed together. Well, and then you're going to like I said,
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  Speaker 7: you'll have your seasoned ground beef on the bottom. And
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  Speaker 7: then you're gonna sprinkle that half of the cheese on
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  Speaker 7: top of that. Then you're gonna pour the egg mixture
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  Speaker 7: on top, and then you're gonna top it with the
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  Speaker 7: rest of the cheese. And you know, this is quick.
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  Speaker 7: It's a good weeknight meal. It's thirty minutes. It's best
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  Speaker 7: if you let it sit for about five to ten
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  Speaker 7: minutes before cutting into it, so that you get nice slices.
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  Speaker 7: And like I said, you can top it with whatever.
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  Speaker 7: You could use some salsa, sour cream, avocado, guacamali, side salad,
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  Speaker 7: and you've got a really good, hearty meal that was fast.
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  Speaker 2: I love tacos, sour creamy onion, garlic.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, you can add You could add the onions to
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  Speaker 7: the ground beef cook them at the same time. And
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  Speaker 7: so our options here are to put this in the
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  Speaker 7: comments section of today's Rumble video and you can always
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  Speaker 6: Sounds good. Build anything on her recipe that you're not
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  Speaker 6: going to get in the care.
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  Speaker 8: Package sounds like something we could make.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, there you go see she's ruined you. I didn't
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  Speaker 6: think you'd ever say that you've created a monster.
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  Speaker 2: Susie.
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  Speaker 7: Well, it is pretty easy, and I know he mean it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes with tacos, instead of putting all that wonderful stuff in,
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  Speaker 2: I might just take the sausa i've got and put
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  Speaker 2: a few scoops because they've usually got garlic and onions
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  Speaker 2: and all that great stuff already in it. So I
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  Speaker 2: cheat a little bit and then put my sour cream.
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  Speaker 2: But I love me some tacos.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, this this recipe is pretty flexible. I like that idea,
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  Speaker 7: and would not as well give a shameless plood to
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  Speaker 7: us all of my pickle Uh. They've got all kinds
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  Speaker 7: of fermented sauces now, and that would be perfect on top.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bought theirs. There was three different varieties the
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  Speaker 2: last time I bought. I don't know what they got now,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 2: but they were very good, good flavor, and they were fermented,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 2: so they were good.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: Are you well, I've just created a monster. I love
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: that turmeric and pepper fermented pickled brine, and I just
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 7: went through it. I finished it the first week and
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 7: now then now I'm on the strawberry a dragon fruit, strawberry,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 7: and it's okay, but it's just too weird to me
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 7: that so far, the turmeric black pepper is my favorite.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 2: Just it's funny. I just finished the turmeric black pepper
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: and I am on the strawberry dragon fruit at the
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: same time.
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  Speaker 6: Funny, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I try not to ever run out, even if I
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 2: have to go steal money from somebody, because it's just
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: too good. I buy like an eight I think there's
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: eight or nine varieties, and I try to buy out
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: the only one. There's one with a certain kind of pepper,
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: and it's a little spicy, but but I don't mind that.
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  Speaker 6: I'm trying to.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: Remember the name of it now. But I like all
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: of them, and even the plain kosher Dell juice is wonderful.
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  Speaker 2: And what I do if I buy pickles or olives
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  Speaker 2: from them, I save that juice when I'm done and
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: drink it too. Right, Yeah, everybody should put some of
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: that in their diet. It takes care of so many problems,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: and it tastes good, and you could probably put booze
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: with some of it and make some pretty cool cocktails.
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  Speaker 7: Well you know, actually, no, the laugh bill, I saw
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  Speaker 7: that they had a Facebook page, and so I went
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 7: to their Facebook page and I was just scrolling through
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 7: and they had some sort of a margarita recipe using
• 1:43:55
  Speaker 7: one of their brinds. But y'all talk, and I'll.
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  Speaker 6: Look, that's cool.
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  Speaker 2: And Bill, you had to tell me you don't ever
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: think about a new cocktail in all your worldly travels.
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  Speaker 2: Are you a Martini guy or what?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 8: I was never one for as we used to call it,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 8: fancy booze. I either have preferred just straight scotch or maybe,
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 8: and I'm not for all. I haven't had wine for
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 8: a long time because I just you know, because I
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 8: take it or leave it. But no, I never I
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 8: never was won much for mixed drinks.
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't drink many of them. I had a
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: for some reason, every time I've ever flown, I have
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: a Bloody Mary. I don't know why, it just I
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 2: do it every time I get that craving. And there's
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 2: been a couple of times I went to some nice
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 2: places for breakfast over the years and they had Mimosa's
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 2: and Bloody Mary's for breakfast. So I tried one then.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: But other than that, yeah, I'm like you, I like
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: straight scotch. Ice cold beer, dark beer, no ipa stuff,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: and I like tequila, and I like rome. I was
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 2: down in Puerto Rico, rum was king. I lived down
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: there about.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 8: A year, so well, you know when I worked. When
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  Speaker 8: I worked down there too, it was it's fine. I
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 8: hadn't really thought you just said this, but a six
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 8: pack of col A Coca Cola was a buck and
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 8: a half and a fifth of Bacardi Dark was seventy
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 8: five cents. Yeah, what do you think we drank.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, a friend of mine back when I lived down there,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: and this has been a long long time, but they
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: owned a restaurant and Old San Juan called Mama's Little Italy,
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if it was there when you
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: were there, but it was a great place. Good food.
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 2: That was one of the things, especially Old San Juan.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: They had some great foods and restaurants.
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: I worked there.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: It was so long ago that I worked for Eastern
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 2: Airline when they were still in business.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 7: So this is one of their margarita recipes. And this
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 7: might be the one that you said was kind of spicy.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 7: It's a AUGI.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, agy, that's a spicy pepper.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 7: Okay, So you may not want to add this serrano
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 7: and it's like one one little slice, one and a
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 7: half ounces of lime juice, two ounces of Blanco tequila,
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 7: five ounces of purple sec and then one ounce of
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 7: their Augie and Marilla pepper and mango.
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, ANGI I was gonna say angiam mango and so
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: it's pretty good.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: It's not so funny. You can have a fermented margarita.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Well, Bill, even if you don't like the margarita, you
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 2: should have some of their pickle juices on a regular basis.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: It's it's a gift from the gods.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 8: That's good stuff. Right when Susan on the best one
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 8: is this American pepper one. I think that's the best.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: I love it.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: So your what is your favorite, Susy out of them.
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 7: It's it's the it's the Tamerican and pepper. It's very
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 7: hard not to unscrew the little cap and then just
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 7: down the whole bag. But no, I'm nice. I have
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: a large shot glass and you know I do it
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 7: twice a day. But I bet I bet that stuff's
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 7: helped you this week with that stomach bug.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: I took some before the show because with my stomach
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: it's still been bothering me.
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: And I think that helped a lot.
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 2: And then if there's any bad guys left, I'm killing
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 2: them with scotch.
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: There you go, and good this.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 2: This was the Father's Day weekend and none of I
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 2: don't think any of us have fathers anymore.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 6: But I was blessed with my youngest.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: Daughter and they she got me this really cool hat
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: that's got two little fans and they work on solar
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: power and a battery that you can plug into a
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: USB port and so the fans cool your face while
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: you're out of the hot sun. And I was really surprised.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 2: I just got it today and tried it and it
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 2: was wonderful. And I also, I can't imagine how they
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: thought of this, but I got this wonderful bottle of scotch.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: Somebody thinks I drink, oh, but it was good.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: It is Glenn Livitt and it's like twelve year aged
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: and it tastes so good.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 6: I feel like I'm committing a.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 2: Sin, but I will. I mean, I've already I've already
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: broke thirteen or fourteen of the ten commandments, so it
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: really don't matter.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 7: So in this same little ad for all of my
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 7: pickle on Facebook, they've got a probot at guacamali.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Wow, that sounds good.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and two avocados, a third of a cup of
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 7: red onions, half a cup of tomato, half of a halapen,
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 7: some cilantro line, and then one and a half ounces
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 7: of their kosher deal live brind.
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: I was just thinking, that's the one I would have
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: picked for that. That's they got a green one too,
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: I forget or not green. It's like blueish, uh, and
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 2: it's really good.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 7: Trying to remember I can never say that words.
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 6: Barrel spirroleina, yes, sperolina. It's ow. It's kind of like
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 6: algae and it's good for you.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 7: So yeah, I was surprised to see that they had
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 7: quite a bit of recipes.
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's some wonderful thing I got. I'm gonna
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 2: try some of those because I just happened to know
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: somebody who drinks. You gotta do that, though, You gotta
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: do it all right, guys were winding down, Susie, You
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 2: and Steve with your place mats or graphics or whatever
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 2: you guys want to call them. Have just at a
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: fabulous job.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 7: Bill he gets the credit this time around. I helped
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 7: very little.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 2: Both the have become a really great team, and we're
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: blessed with a producer that keeps it changing. During the show,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to monitor the mixer and two different screens,
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: and so I miss a few things. But I looked
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: up earlier and it was some really cool stuff. So
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: great jobs.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 6: Bill.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: You need to turn on your computer one night and
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 2: just go click on the show and watch it because
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 2: you get to see yourself and Susie and me and
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: all the stuff.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: In the background. It's pretty great, pretty good stuff.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: All right, Well we're at that time of night, Susie,
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 2: anything you'd like to close this out with.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, number one, I'm sorry you're not feeling well.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 7: I hope you play your better soon.
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 10: Thank you.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 7: And Steve and myself and his son had been hit
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 7: by allergies like a ton of bricks, and I think
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 7: he's righted. You know, right after this last rainstorm, it's
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 7: like we all got it.
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 2: Remember I told you every time a new storm comes,
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 2: you get new stuff. Yep, you got you got a
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 2: Sinus Forte, Allegro and alerplex and then those three will
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: probably knock up into dirt and get rid of it
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: for you.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 7: Yep.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: So I'm sure I'm sure you were on top of
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 2: it quick. But for anybody out there, listen, and that's
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 2: where we go. Alerplex, uh Allergico and uh Sinus Forte
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  Speaker 2: used to be called Euphrasier and they changed the name.
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  Speaker 2: So anything else is before we give it the bill.
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  Speaker 7: No, that's it, all right?
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  Speaker 2: Well, great recipe stuff. I really love the way you
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  Speaker 2: looked into the all of my pickle juices. I love them.
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  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And it's funny you and I have the last two
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  Speaker 2: you did or the last two that I did, and
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  Speaker 2: right now I'm doing the strawberry and dragon fruit, which
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  Speaker 2: I had never heard of before, but it tastes good.
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  Speaker 6: All right, Bill, anything you'd like to close out with,
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  Speaker 6: No bill.
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  Speaker 8: And now it's it's just been a quiet, quiet week.
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  Speaker 8: So everything is uh just kind of cruising along.
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  Speaker 4: And uh.
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  Speaker 8: One thing, one thing I did hear uh that was
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  Speaker 8: a little concern was that there are good buddy George
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  Speaker 8: Souls is apparently uh wearing a lot of money into
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 8: Texas to convert it to a blue state. Whether that's
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  Speaker 8: true or not, I think the point it was that's
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  Speaker 8: just because we don't hear about him like we did
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  Speaker 8: for a while, or that because we don't hear what
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  Speaker 8: the chuckle, Schumer or any of these other kinds of
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  Speaker 8: libbys are up here. Does not mean that they're just
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  Speaker 8: sitting quietly. They're not.
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  Speaker 2: There. Anybody that has any doubts needs to go. Look.
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  Speaker 2: There's an interview with George Soarrows talking about how he
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  Speaker 2: worked with the Germans against his own family as a kid. Yeah, evil,
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  Speaker 2: evil man. And that lady that was blessed with a
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 2: silver spoon in her mouth from Sam Walton is her
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  Speaker 2: hands and some bad stuff too, and I sure hope
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  Speaker 2: they stop that. A lot of evil people want to
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 2: see nothing but bad and you got to wonder, why
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  Speaker 2: what are they planning on? It's not a good thing. Susy,
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  Speaker 2: your recipe was great, Bill, your topic was fabulous. I
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 2: cannot thank Steve, our producer, and Susie and Bill enough
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 2: guys that they make this special and it is a
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  Speaker 2: fun thing to do. I notice no matter how all
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 2: of us are feeling, we tend to do a lot
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 2: better and come to life doing the show. And it's
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 2: funny because if you have anybody that's been through a
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 2: divorce or a loss of somebody, are a breakup or
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: a or a new relationship, the kind of music they
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: want to hear is different. If you're a tomboy likes
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: Susie and you grew up with brothers, you tend not
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: to like too many female artists. You like more of
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 2: the guys because you were a tomboy. That's just that
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 2: part of you. And then the ones that tend to
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 2: like the girl music more never did any of that
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and they, you know, delicate, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's funny when I go to choose music, I'm thinking
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 2: about all those things and the people that are listening.
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  Speaker 2: And like Bill good God, Bill knows more about music
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 2: than I mean, he's probably forgot more than I'll ever understand.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: And just like he said, he listens to a song
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 2: that I play and can tell you about the musician,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, I just think that's so cool.
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  Speaker 6: So you get all these different perspectives.
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  Speaker 2: I've had people say, how about play this song, replay that,
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  Speaker 2: and I try to work them in, But you know,
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  Speaker 2: everybody's personality.
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  Speaker 6: Is different, what you're going through is different.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: What kind of music you want to listen to, I
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 2: think depends a whole lot on what's going on in
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 2: your life and how you grew up maybe, and what's
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 2: happened to you after you've been growing up? So kind
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 2: of interesting buildings?
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  Speaker 8: Who's growing up?
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  Speaker 7: Right, I'm gonna say, who's growing up?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: I saw a thing the other day. The little boy
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: asked his mom or no. He was telling his mom
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 2: when I grow up, I want to be a biker,
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 2: and I smiled because I have a bike. And then
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 2: she told him make up your mind. You can't be both.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess that's true when you ride a motorcycle. Yeah,
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 2: when you ride a motorcycle, you never really grow up,
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  Speaker 2: but you have to. You have to get older.
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  Speaker 6: You just don't have to grow up. That's a good
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  Speaker 6: way to look at it, all right, guys, Well, thank
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 6: you so much.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen. We've I think we had eight nations
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 2: listening to us this week. We've continued to have a
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: lot of listeners throughout that other software we used on
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 2: things like Spotify, iHeartRadio, Amazon Music, Apple, And I was.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 6: Telling Steve seeing a lot of listeners on Chrome.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure how that works because I don't
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: know much. I don't use Chrome on my computer.
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  Speaker 6: But we've had about eight countries. We're so grateful.
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  Speaker 2: Do you guys take your time out of your busy
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: lives and listen to us, and we hope we provide
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 2: a little little humor, a little entertainment, give you some
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: food for thought, maybe teach you some things you didn't know,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: maybe give you something that you might want to question
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: us about. And you can go to docgroupa dot com
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 2: and that's Susie's website she made for us. Click on
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: contact us and whether you've got a question about producing
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 2: shows and all that stuff, or our head doctor stuff
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 2: from Bill or the woman who's got pistol pecking Mama
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 2: Granny from from.
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 6: Beverly, don't say that from Hillbillies.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 2: Uh, whatever your questions, we'll get you an answer back,
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  Speaker 2: so that'd be cool. I was, I was watching the
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: thing the other day on baseball, and they have a
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 2: new thing now. When the picture comes off the mound,
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 2: they one of the umpires has to check his hands.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 2: And I was remembering that jet Throbodin could throw a
• 1:59:52
  Speaker 2: baseball like nobody on this earth as long as he
• 1:59:55
  Speaker 2: could use pussum fat. You can't do that nowadays. But anyway,
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 2: thank you guys so much. I know the audience loves
• 2:00:04
  Speaker 2: you guys as much as I do. And it's a
• 2:00:07
  Speaker 2: great team effort. And I am so grateful for the
• 2:00:11
  Speaker 2: friendship and the team we've got together here, and so
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: grateful for all you out there listen to us. May
• 2:00:18
  Speaker 2: God bless you all with health and happiness, keep your
• 2:00:24
  Speaker 2: lives peaceful, free and safe. And it is that time
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: for good scotch, good cigars, and good night.
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 7: Yeah, good, not at all, Good night everyone, God bless.
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  Speaker 11: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 11: destructive kind.
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  Speaker 6: Guess that's why now.
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  Speaker 2: I feel so old before my time.
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  Speaker 11: Yes today, when I was here, the taste of life
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 11: was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I teased at length,
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  Speaker 11: as if it were a foolish game, the way the
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 11: even breeze may tease a candle flame.
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  Speaker 6: The thousand dreams I dreamed.
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  Speaker 11: The splendid things I planned, I always built to last on.
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  Speaker 5: Weakened, shifting sand.
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  Speaker 6: I lived by night and.
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  Speaker 11: Shunned the naked light of day.
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  Speaker 6: And only now I see how the.
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 3: Years ran away yesterday when I was young.
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  Speaker 11: So many happy songs we're waiting to be sung, so
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  Speaker 11: many wild pleasures lay in storm