Latest / First Thing Today with Joe Thomas / "Colorado Medicare Fraud" (Tuesday, April 7, 2026, Hour 4)
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- 0:02Speaker 1: Because I don't mind being a shelf that having celt
- 0:04Speaker 1: it for many years, by the by the fake from.
- 0:07Speaker 2: The home of the First Amendment. First thing today, George said.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Steal metem have a day at least for work, when
- 0:17Speaker 3: the sun comes up, drops a kid to school.
- 0:19Speaker 2: They think Joe has a dreamer.
- 0:23Speaker 4: All the treasure needs.
- 0:26Speaker 1: No one that Joe's as smiled, he only as.
- 0:34Speaker 4: Joe, thank you for letting me be of service to
- 0:36Speaker 4: you this morning. Simplicity. I think that's the thing that
- 0:43Speaker 4: is the most important in the world today is is
- 0:46Speaker 4: you look at simplicity. So you say, there's a body
- 0:49Speaker 4: of water and people need to ship things through that
- 0:54Speaker 4: body of water. And one group is threatening that body
- 0:58Speaker 4: of water as if it's there, and they're going to
- 1:00Speaker 4: bomb anyone who goes through it, and you can't even
- 1:03Speaker 4: get out of your own damn way to guard it.
- 1:10Speaker 4: And you say, well, then what's the efficacy of something
- 1:13Speaker 4: like the United Nations If they can't even come out
- 1:16Speaker 4: and say, listen, this is the world's waterway, not yours,
- 1:22Speaker 4: and you're going to start attacking people. This was the
- 1:25Speaker 4: whole point of international waters versus territorial waters. And if
- 1:32Speaker 4: the United nations can't successfully get its head out of
- 1:35Speaker 4: its collective behind. And yeah, they've got the VETO and
- 1:40Speaker 4: the Security Council, and each one of these founding countries
- 1:48Speaker 4: like China has a veto to keep things from going on.
- 1:53Speaker 4: What is China's retribution for this? China isn't going to
- 1:59Speaker 4: profit from making oil. They get to go through the
- 2:02Speaker 4: Strait of Hormus. The RAN's not going to shoot at
- 2:04Speaker 4: their ships, so Iran can keep cranking oil out through
- 2:09Speaker 4: the carg Island shipping depot and keep sending it off
- 2:13Speaker 4: in there. America is not going to fire a missile
- 2:15Speaker 4: at a Chinese boat. What is the repercussion to some
- 2:23Speaker 4: place like China, who doesn't give a rat's patuiti about
- 2:28Speaker 4: the price of oil in the world. As a matter
- 2:32Speaker 4: of fact, they like it when the price of oil
- 2:34Speaker 4: goes up because it helps them sell more solar panels
- 2:38Speaker 4: to American left wingers in places like Virginia and California,
- 2:43Speaker 4: the lands of fruits and nuts. So there they go
- 2:51Speaker 4: and they do their thing, just as Russia did, the
- 2:54Speaker 4: Soviet Union did for years. The United States has done
- 2:57Speaker 4: it as well, but we always worried about the repercussions
- 3:01Speaker 4: of it, So we tell you our first thing, so
- 3:04Speaker 4: that you can tell us what your view is of it.
- 3:06Speaker 4: We're going to get into it with the epic times
- 3:08Speaker 4: a little bit later on in the hour and the
- 3:10Speaker 4: possibility of boots on the ground, as it were. But
- 3:14Speaker 4: first to the dark side of the moon and photographs
- 3:18Speaker 4: now of the dark side of the move proving that
- 3:21Speaker 4: Pink Floyd was right all along. It's all dark. Orion
- 3:25Speaker 4: Capsule was awoken to the voice of Jim Lovell, who
- 3:29Speaker 4: passed away last year at the age of ninety seven,
- 3:31Speaker 4: but recorded a message that told the Orion astronauts, welcome
- 3:36Speaker 4: to my old neighborhood. Tomorrow it's going to be Tom
- 3:42Speaker 4: Hanks pretending to be mister Rogers saying won't you be
- 3:47Speaker 4: my neighbor? And Jim Lovell was played by Tom all Right,
- 3:53Speaker 4: too many connections sorry. Iran has rejected the forty five
- 3:57Speaker 4: day ceasefire proposal and said it one a permanent end
- 4:01Speaker 4: to the war, which is good news because that's generally
- 4:03Speaker 4: what the United States wants as well. They told Pakistan
- 4:07Speaker 4: to get this out of here. Meanwhile, President Mahsud Prizikian
- 4:12Speaker 4: said that fourteen million Iranians have volunteered to be missile
- 4:17Speaker 4: fodder and stand hand in hand outside of energy generation
- 4:22Speaker 4: facilities and across bridges that President Trump has threatened to
- 4:26Speaker 4: shoot if they don't get out of the way of
- 4:29Speaker 4: the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump pushed
- 4:33Speaker 4: back on the threats. He was asked at a press
- 4:37Speaker 4: conference yesterday if those were tatamount to war crimes, and
- 4:41Speaker 4: he said no, they were not. Didn't cite sources on that,
- 4:46Speaker 4: but he did say that it was not a war crime.
- 4:51Speaker 4: He didn't ask about plan.
- 4:53Speaker 1: Because of the power of our military, where every bridge
- 4:57Speaker 1: in Iran will be decimated by twelve o'clock tomorrow night,
- 5:03Speaker 1: where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding,
- 5:09Speaker 1: and never to be used again. I mean complete demolition
- 5:13Speaker 1: by twelve o'clock and it'll happen over a period of
- 5:16Speaker 1: four hours if we wanted to.
- 5:18Speaker 2: We don't want that to happen.
- 5:21Speaker 4: Meanwhile, the world community still sits watching to see what
- 5:25Speaker 4: happens next between the two countries. The President was asked
- 5:28Speaker 4: if at the end of the conflict they were going
- 5:31Speaker 4: to take over the Iranian oil flies, and he said,
- 5:35Speaker 4: we could, but I don't want to because Americans want
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- 13:16Speaker 4: Today?
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- 13:41Speaker 4: So bad medicine, Colorado's budget And for our friends in
- 13:47Speaker 4: Cortes down the four corners, don't look over the border, seely,
- 13:51Speaker 4: don't you do it? I don't look over the border
- 13:53Speaker 4: and say, boy, they must have it so much better
- 13:55Speaker 4: in those other countries. The earth is always browner on
- 13:59Speaker 4: the other side of the border, isn't it. And listening
- 14:04Speaker 4: down there on KVFC out there and our friends in
- 14:10Speaker 4: Colorado Springs at KPPF this morning, I think we missed
- 14:14Speaker 4: or do we miss Greeley already at cake we know
- 14:18Speaker 4: what we need. We need all those clocks you ever see,
- 14:21Speaker 4: like you know the wall in a newsroom, like you
- 14:24Speaker 4: know who's but the clock would say, like which stations
- 14:27Speaker 4: are tuned in at which hours? You know which hours
- 14:30Speaker 4: of the show. But somebody tell the folks down in
- 14:36Speaker 4: Greeley that we were talking about them at KFKA tomorrow morning.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Colorado just increased your taxes by one and a half percent,
- 14:46Speaker 4: mostly because medicaid. Medicaid. This from the Colorado Springs Gazette.
- 14:54Speaker 4: Medicaid has been driving overspending both in the twenty twenty
- 14:57Speaker 4: five twenty six fiscal year and the upp coming state
- 15:00Speaker 4: budget that goes into effect July one, the result of
- 15:04Speaker 4: over utilization of services. The state program that provides health
- 15:08Speaker 4: coverage to low income residences be sent by allegations of waste. No, no,
- 15:15Speaker 4: not in medicare. That wouldn't happen. No, Someone get Tim
- 15:19Speaker 4: Walltz on the phone. He'll explain it to you. Fraud
- 15:24Speaker 4: abuse leadership has been accused of mismanagement. Congress is investigating
- 15:29Speaker 4: the fraud allegations, and the proposed spending for the Department
- 15:33Speaker 4: of Health Care Policy and Financing in Colorado stands at
- 15:37Speaker 4: nineteen point two billion dollars. Remember when that used to
- 15:41Speaker 4: be your state budget. Now it's just the medicaid portion
- 15:46Speaker 4: portion of it with five point seventy five billion in
- 15:51Speaker 4: general fund support. Man of your taxes, that's two hundred
- 15:54Speaker 4: and twelve million dollars more than twenty five twenty six
- 15:58Speaker 4: about a three percent, three point seven percent increase. Why well,
- 16:03Speaker 4: remember in the glory days of the Patient Protection and
- 16:08Speaker 4: Affordable Care Act, the development of it, so we're talking
- 16:12Speaker 4: about two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, early
- 16:16Speaker 4: twenty ten, is they trundled towards the ram rotting of
- 16:21Speaker 4: the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, you know, the
- 16:24Speaker 4: bill that was so good we had to pass it
- 16:26Speaker 4: before we could find out what was in it. But
- 16:30Speaker 4: one of the sales pitches that young Barry Setero and
- 16:35Speaker 4: his administration went out under the world to sell us
- 16:39Speaker 4: was that it was basically going to become Medicare for all,
- 16:44Speaker 4: that that was going to be the fallback position because
- 16:47Speaker 4: Medicare for all would be so much more efficient because
- 16:51Speaker 4: in a small percentage focus group in the late nineties,
- 16:59Speaker 4: if you looked at Medicare, it's return on investment isn't
- 17:05Speaker 4: the right phrase on it, but its cost per point
- 17:10Speaker 4: was not as high as it would be for an
- 17:12Speaker 4: insurance company. Insurance companies were costing each ratepayer more for
- 17:19Speaker 4: each dollar that they were able to use for healthcare.
- 17:22Speaker 4: So the argument was that Medicare and Medicaid worked much
- 17:26Speaker 4: more efficiently. The argument, I think eloquently put out by
- 17:31Speaker 4: Sally Pipes at the Pacific Research Institute on my local
- 17:36Speaker 4: program at the time was that that's because not that
- 17:42Speaker 4: many people use and that if you scale it up,
- 17:47Speaker 4: the fraud the abuse will grow exponentially far beyond what
- 17:53Speaker 4: happens because in a private insurance company, you have this
- 17:57Speaker 4: division called fraud investigations. I know this for a fact
- 18:03Speaker 4: because that's what my brother does for which is the
- 18:06Speaker 4: one the one with the guy from the closer who's
- 18:10Speaker 4: always walking into a room saying, well, should have had
- 18:13Speaker 4: was that Farmers? Okay, so my brother works for Farmers
- 18:17Speaker 4: and in the job of investigating fraud against the insurance company.
- 18:22Speaker 4: Does Medicare and medicaid have that division?
- 18:25Speaker 19: No?
- 18:26Speaker 4: Why that might be a voter we're accusing of fraud
- 18:29Speaker 4: and abuse or an illegal alien that's helping us look
- 18:33Speaker 4: like we care. So fraud and abuse, over use by
- 18:39Speaker 4: a growing population that is falling into the clutches of
- 18:44Speaker 4: poverty because we're allowing this economy to skid towards Marxism.
- 18:53Speaker 4: Because that's the other part of this over utilization. The
- 18:56Speaker 4: Colorado Springs Gazette uses that very phrase over utilization because
- 19:02Speaker 4: more and more people, based on the standards, are qualifying
- 19:07Speaker 4: for these aid programs. Because it's a percentage of the
- 19:15Speaker 4: median income. So the more prosperous one end of the
- 19:19Speaker 4: spectrum gets the median then falls below it. More and
- 19:24Speaker 4: more people are fitting into that box. And that's not
- 19:28Speaker 4: just Colorado that's everywhere. More and more people are working
- 19:33Speaker 4: full time management professional jobs and can't afford to live
- 19:38Speaker 4: where they are. And this is a problem that conservatives
- 19:42Speaker 4: don't want to talk about because they feel like, oh,
- 19:45Speaker 4: that's a that's a gimme, that's a layup putt for
- 19:51Speaker 4: the leftists. Oh, we don't talk about that because that's
- 19:54Speaker 4: their agenda. No, our agenda has to be to debunk
- 19:58Speaker 4: their agenda. The leftist will just come in like Abigail
- 20:02Speaker 4: Spanburger and say, we're gonna make Virginia more affordable, or
- 20:06Speaker 4: Colorado or insert name of state here, wherever you want
- 20:10Speaker 4: to Florida or Idaho or Alaska. We're going to make
- 20:15Speaker 4: Alaska affordable again. And then you vote for them, saying, well,
- 20:20Speaker 4: who could be against that? And then they don't. Then
- 20:24Speaker 4: the electric bills start going up, and then you start
- 20:27Speaker 4: hearing about subsidy programs. I mean, it's bad enough. The
- 20:34Speaker 4: governors like Spanburger will give money to Astroseneka and Eli
- 20:39Speaker 4: Lilly just to bribe them into not pulling out of
- 20:42Speaker 4: their factory developments because she and her leftist buddies won
- 20:46Speaker 4: the government. But they're not helping the heart. Anyone working
- 20:57Speaker 4: at this level. I mean professional people. I know, commercial
- 21:01Speaker 4: production directors for TV stations that can't afford to live
- 21:04Speaker 4: in their hometowns. That's not good and we need to
- 21:14Speaker 4: reorder the way we value what we do and who
- 21:19Speaker 4: does it for us, and where the money is going
- 21:22Speaker 4: because so much debt is being consumed, So much money
- 21:26Speaker 4: out of our economy is being consumed by either federal,
- 21:30Speaker 4: state or local debt and corporate debt. We don't talk
- 21:35Speaker 4: about that either in conservative talk radio because it's a
- 21:38Speaker 4: you know, you're aware for free markets, yes, but the
- 21:41Speaker 4: indebtedness of our American corporations and the bailouts that they
- 21:46Speaker 4: look for, if not governmental, at least through courts, leaving
- 21:50Speaker 4: people holding the bag for money that they lent them,
- 21:54Speaker 4: even if it's in the way of buying stock options,
- 21:57Speaker 4: is driving this economy into a ditch.
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- 28:17Speaker 19: But the Iranian people will fight back as soon as
- 28:21Speaker 19: they know they're not going to be shot, and as
- 28:23Speaker 19: soon as they can get weapons. If they had weapons,
- 28:26Speaker 19: not many of them. If they had weapons, that would
- 28:29Speaker 19: go in the other way, and you know what happened.
- 28:31Speaker 19: Iran would give up and do savage because they wouldn't
- 28:34Speaker 19: be able to take it.
- 28:35Speaker 4: But that's what we're waiting for, is we're waiting for
- 28:41Speaker 4: the right, you know. And with the media blackout, as
- 28:44Speaker 4: we learned, and by the way, I was wrong. I
- 28:49Speaker 4: was looking at old calendar stuff and I'm still haven't
- 28:51Speaker 4: quite transitioned from twenty five to twenty six. Vince Vans
- 28:56Speaker 4: and the Valiants are not performing anywhere right now, but
- 29:00Speaker 4: the uprising is not being seen, mostly because there's a
- 29:05Speaker 4: media blackout. Internet is shut off for anyone who's not
- 29:09Speaker 4: trying to connect the Finance or Foreign minister with the
- 29:13Speaker 4: folks at CNN to do his head at five pm,
- 29:17Speaker 4: so we're getting very little information. President Trump there on
- 29:20Speaker 4: Sunday talking about the Kurds who had their way with
- 29:25Speaker 4: a gun shipment, and I don't know what that's going
- 29:27Speaker 4: to do to them. But you're seeing some of the
- 29:30Speaker 4: oldest factions in the book come to play here. Ryan
- 29:34Speaker 4: Morgan is the foreign affairs reporter for the Epic Times
- 29:39Speaker 4: and he is on the newsmaker's line with us. Ryan,
- 29:42Speaker 4: good morning, Thank you for taking a little time out
- 29:44Speaker 4: to shine some light in here for us.
- 29:47Speaker 24: How are you doing, sir, I'm doing all right, and
- 29:51Speaker 24: thank you for having me.
- 29:52Speaker 4: Not at all. Thank you for recovering what you do
- 29:54Speaker 4: and right now Iran being the key note to it.
- 30:00Speaker 4: And foremost, let's start with the un yet again not
- 30:03Speaker 4: being able to come up with anything more than a
- 30:05Speaker 4: sternly worded email saying please open the straight of horror moves.
- 30:10Speaker 4: This was for decades why nobody wanted to engage the
- 30:15Speaker 4: mac Daddy, the Grand Pappy, as I see it, of
- 30:18Speaker 4: state sponsors of terrorism, terrorism is Iran because of Iran's
- 30:23Speaker 4: position on the straight of horror moves. Do you think
- 30:26Speaker 4: from what you've seen, the world community is going to
- 30:29Speaker 4: get anything right regarding opening these international waters.
- 30:34Speaker 24: Yeah, you know, and this is something that's been obviously
- 30:38Speaker 24: has been war gamed out pretty extensively. In any scenario
- 30:43Speaker 24: where we go after Iran, you know, to a degree
- 30:48Speaker 24: that they feel threatened at an extential level, they will
- 30:51Speaker 24: shut down the horror moves And this is something that
- 30:55Speaker 24: they've been practicing to do for decades. Being said, I think,
- 31:01Speaker 24: you know, Trump's you know, kind of greatest expectations that
- 31:06Speaker 24: you know, the international community would step up have not
- 31:09Speaker 24: been met. Uh that being said, I I certainly think
- 31:13Speaker 24: that if there were an international coalition, they could get
- 31:16Speaker 24: the job done. It is not easy, you know, it's
- 31:19Speaker 24: a lot easier said than done. Still, even even taking
- 31:23Speaker 24: back the horror moves with a significant force does expose
- 31:27Speaker 24: a lot of international military forces to you know it,
- 31:33Speaker 24: they would be they would be taking a lot of
- 31:36Speaker 24: heavy fire. And that's one scenario that actually talked about
- 31:41Speaker 24: is the taking of Keshum Island there at the at
- 31:44Speaker 24: the front of the horror moves that would be that
- 31:48Speaker 24: would be a difficult operation just with the current force
- 31:52Speaker 24: build up that the US forces have in the region.
- 31:55Speaker 24: But that's something that they could do.
- 31:59Speaker 4: Is there. And we played the clip from Sunday President
- 32:02Speaker 4: Trump on his way to the Easter Egg role and
- 32:04Speaker 4: talking about trying to get guns into the hands of
- 32:07Speaker 4: the civilian population of Iran and the Kurds intercepting it.
- 32:14Speaker 4: I think highlights one of the problems we've had internationally
- 32:18Speaker 4: in a lot of these places is the enemy of
- 32:21Speaker 4: our enemy is not always our friend. They made us
- 32:23Speaker 4: to act like it, but is getting the opposition that
- 32:29Speaker 4: was getting killed in the streets to stand up against
- 32:34Speaker 4: this group going to be the key from where you sit,
- 32:37Speaker 4: Ryan and what you've covered so far.
- 32:40Speaker 13: Yeah, you know.
- 32:41Speaker 24: I the thing is, you know Trump, President Trump has
- 32:45Speaker 24: actually fluctuated quite a bit on whether or not regime
- 32:49Speaker 24: change is an overall goal of this campaign. If you know,
- 32:55Speaker 24: regime change were to come through an internal uprising, as
- 32:58Speaker 24: we kind of saw with this shipment of guns, you
- 33:02Speaker 24: know that was the clear intent of sending the guns,
- 33:05Speaker 24: is to start internal uprising. That would still require a
- 33:09Speaker 24: great bit of coordination, and that's something that I would
- 33:11Speaker 24: expect out of like our traditional Green rated Special Forces
- 33:17Speaker 24: or the CIA, those would be kind of the primary
- 33:21Speaker 24: the primary, Yeah, the primary components to actually provide that
- 33:26Speaker 24: coordination to drive like a rebel offensive and an actual
- 33:31Speaker 24: coordinated fashion. Otherwise you're just going to have a bunch
- 33:34Speaker 24: of disparate groups running around with guns and we don't
- 33:38Speaker 24: really have a whole lot of control over how they
- 33:41Speaker 24: use them. And that actually has uh has come back
- 33:45Speaker 24: to bide us in the past when we've done that
- 33:47Speaker 24: in a few other previous scenarios. I'm not putting my
- 33:53Speaker 24: money on there being an internal uprising at this point
- 33:58Speaker 24: in time. The way that the program is talking about
- 34:00Speaker 24: it is, you know, if we're taking that as word,
- 34:04Speaker 24: this is going to be a US military campaign that
- 34:08Speaker 24: wraps up by destroying Iron's military capabilities and probably its infrastructure.
- 34:15Speaker 24: And then the hope there is that once we leave,
- 34:19Speaker 24: you know, the regime will have kind of no remaining
- 34:22Speaker 24: functional capability to maintain order and control over their population.
- 34:28Speaker 4: Is the issue at hand here. President Trump said something
- 34:34Speaker 4: yesterday at his press conference about there's already been regime change,
- 34:38Speaker 4: and I don't know if he means Ayatola Junior, who
- 34:42Speaker 4: we haven't seen he's emailed some things since going off
- 34:45Speaker 4: into the Russian healthcare system. Or is he talking about
- 34:50Speaker 4: knowledge about something other than that? In these communicates that
- 34:54Speaker 4: we get from the theocracy, the Council of x Berts
- 35:01Speaker 4: is just them connecting to local news agencies and getting
- 35:05Speaker 4: word out that's saying, hey, we're still here, We're still
- 35:07Speaker 4: finding almost kind of like the Black Knight in Muddy
- 35:10Speaker 4: Python and the Holy Grail, it's but a flesh wound.
- 35:14Speaker 4: What is your sense covering us for the epic times? Ryan?
- 35:19Speaker 24: Yeah, that's the thing is is Trump obviously has not
- 35:23Speaker 24: been extremely precise and clear with what he means by
- 35:26Speaker 24: there's been a regime change other than you know, clearly
- 35:30Speaker 24: Ayatola Ali Kamenie, the senior guy, the eighty six year
- 35:35Speaker 24: old guy was killed and a lot of you know,
- 35:38Speaker 24: senior Iranian leadership around him was killed. So in Trump's phrasing,
- 35:45Speaker 24: it certainly comes off as Okay, well, we've regime changed
- 35:49Speaker 24: de facto, you know, by virtue of the fact that
- 35:52Speaker 24: we've killed the top leadership and other's you know, there's
- 35:55Speaker 24: this second layer of leadership in charge. I don't have
- 35:59Speaker 24: a clear pick sure that there's actually, you know, necessarily
- 36:04Speaker 24: a different structure of government. Really, it seems to be
- 36:09Speaker 24: that the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard or the IRGC, which
- 36:15Speaker 24: is a is a kind of special military component that's
- 36:18Speaker 24: separate from their main armed forces, now has a lot
- 36:23Speaker 24: more influence over the current leadership. They were the ones
- 36:26Speaker 24: that were pushing for the Iyatola's son to be the replacement.
- 36:30Speaker 24: I'm not necessarily seeing that as a as a de
- 36:34Speaker 24: radicalizing step. From my read of it, it looks like that,
- 36:39Speaker 24: you know, the most hardcore elements still kind of have
- 36:43Speaker 24: their their main people in charge at this point.
- 36:46Speaker 4: What about the conscripted military? Ryan Morgan, reporter, Foreign Affairs,
- 36:51Speaker 4: Military and Foreign Affairs for the Epic Times. What about
- 36:55Speaker 4: the conscript the military? Is there anything about, uh, whether
- 37:01Speaker 4: they're still organized and we're really just fighting the Republican
- 37:06Speaker 4: the revolutionary garden pardon me? Or or have have this
- 37:12Speaker 4: this conscriptive army, the regular army, if you will, turned
- 37:17Speaker 4: and supported someone else inside that we may not know about.
- 37:23Speaker 24: Yeah, I think, uh, I've heard it thrown around it
- 37:27Speaker 24: and I have no way of really validating it, because
- 37:31Speaker 24: you know, it is it is information that's you know,
- 37:34Speaker 24: basically coming through the telephone game. But you hear guys
- 37:37Speaker 24: like Rizza Polavi, the you know, the son of the
- 37:40Speaker 24: Shaw saying that there are you know, lots of defectors
- 37:44Speaker 24: ready to come over. And I would assume the defectors
- 37:47Speaker 24: are mostly from the the artache is the uh, you know,
- 37:52Speaker 24: the main armed forces, not the I, R g C,
- 37:55Speaker 24: the more hardcore element.
- 37:57Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I see that right.
- 37:59Speaker 24: Yeah, that being.
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- 44:38Speaker 4: So, Ryan, I appreciate it. Ryan Morgan with epic times
- 44:42Speaker 4: on whether we were talking about you know, what's coming
- 44:46Speaker 4: up from the streets in Iran, and because it's really
- 44:50Speaker 4: got to come from there from what I understood my
- 44:53Speaker 4: beliefs anyway, And you were leading me right before the
- 44:56Speaker 4: break to think that that's not happening.
- 44:58Speaker 24: Being said said, I have not seen any clear indications
- 45:03Speaker 24: of Iranians actually turning their guns on each other and
- 45:07Speaker 24: making a power play. And we would start to see
- 45:10Speaker 24: I think we would start to see some elements of
- 45:13Speaker 24: it at this point, but there's nothing clear that's emerged.
- 45:19Speaker 4: Is the internet blackout really hampering our knowledge of what's
- 45:23Speaker 4: going on and there people can't get on you know,
- 45:25Speaker 4: X or anything like that right now and say hey,
- 45:28Speaker 4: we're here, we're still fighting, or whatever it may be.
- 45:34Speaker 24: My understanding is that back in January, when there were
- 45:38Speaker 24: these you know, these big protests, we were sending in
- 45:43Speaker 24: you know, starlink to try and help maintain Internet accessibility.
- 45:48Speaker 24: Certainly we probably have human sources on the ground that
- 45:53Speaker 24: can give us kind of reliable information about what's going
- 45:56Speaker 24: on inside Iran, not from the thirty thousand foot view
- 46:00Speaker 24: you literally yes, So I don't know that the Internet
- 46:04Speaker 24: blackout is necessarily the constraining factor here.
- 46:10Speaker 4: Well, it seems it seems like, I know, President Trump
- 46:13Speaker 4: talked about edicts saying, you know, shoot on site any
- 46:17Speaker 4: of these folks caught. We were at sea pack in Dallas. Ryan,
- 46:21Speaker 4: last question for you, Yeah, that you know two groups.
- 46:25Speaker 4: There was a group of Iranians living in the United
- 46:28Speaker 4: States expats that were there in support of Resip Lavi
- 46:33Speaker 4: and his position. I guess he said he would work
- 46:37Speaker 4: as an intermediary to bring about a new regime. And
- 46:42Speaker 4: then there was the group supporting this government in exile
- 46:45Speaker 4: in Paris, Mariamjavi. You know, what do you know about
- 46:50Speaker 4: these two groups? And is there a tershiam quid as
- 46:53Speaker 4: I like to call it here as a group I'm
- 46:55Speaker 4: part of a third alternative as it were for Star
- 46:58Speaker 4: Trek fans hm hmm.
- 47:00Speaker 27: Yeah.
- 47:01Speaker 24: So so my understanding is that the three main groups
- 47:05Speaker 24: that would really be power players for you know.
- 47:12Speaker 4: Bryan, which you can hear me, yeah, right as you
- 47:16Speaker 4: started the meat of hit. So the three groups.
- 47:20Speaker 24: Are yeah, the three the three groups are the Iranian
- 47:24Speaker 24: Kurds uh kind of the monarchist you know types, you know,
- 47:31Speaker 24: the supporters of.
- 47:31Speaker 4: The Pilavi and all.
- 47:35Speaker 24: Okay, yeah, and then lusiadniakalk n e k which is
- 47:41Speaker 24: like a yeah, kind of Islamist socialist group that is
- 47:47Speaker 24: opposed to the the Shield leadership. They also have pretty
- 47:50Speaker 24: bad blood with the Shaw's family.
- 48:00Speaker 4: I guess we lost him there. Well, uh, they've got
- 48:05Speaker 4: two of the three. I guess the Mariam group is
- 48:09Speaker 4: the third one here. First thing today, Well thanks Ryan,
- 48:14Speaker 4: if you can still hear me, we can't hear you anymore.
- 48:17Speaker 4: The cell broke up on us. I know, I know
- 48:20Speaker 4: it's somebody saying you're don't talk to the Epic Times reporters.
- 48:24Speaker 4: They know things. That's why we talked to them. But
- 48:27Speaker 4: I appreciate it Ryan for your time out. Well yeah,
- 48:31Speaker 4: what was the third group before? Because you had the
- 48:34Speaker 4: two groups? Uh, and then there was a third one.
- 48:36Speaker 4: You said, is that the Mariam roj Avi government in
- 48:39Speaker 4: exile crowd? You know?
- 48:43Speaker 24: My the one I'm referring to is it was a
- 48:50Speaker 24: terrorist group or is designated.
- 48:57Speaker 4: It's it's like, you know, this isn't going to help
- 49:00Speaker 4: those in my audience who have conspiracy theories, uh and
- 49:03Speaker 4: pattern recognition software. Every time you try to tell us
- 49:07Speaker 4: one of these groups, that's when you're cell drops. Ryan.
- 49:10Speaker 4: But you know, text it to me and I'll read
- 49:14Speaker 4: it or something, but I appreciate it, sir, you have
- 49:16Speaker 4: a great morning E two four three four eight A
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- 49:27Speaker 4: his column on it, you probably find the answer to it. Clark,
- 49:32Speaker 4: what do you.
- 49:33Speaker 27: Think conversation with Joel Joe was talking about the Iranians
- 49:37Speaker 27: driving up a gas prices, et cetera, et cetera, Joe.
- 49:41Speaker 27: When your goal is death to America, yeah, better expenditure.
- 49:47Speaker 27: Missiles are contributions in con to the Democrat Party.
- 49:51Speaker 4: Oh, b.
- 49:55Speaker 27: Ain't that something? No?
- 49:58Speaker 4: I mean, it's it's it's what the Soviet's new in
- 50:02Speaker 4: nineteen sixty six. Give give, give Wavy Gravy enough money.
- 50:08Speaker 4: You know, Wavy Gravy doesn't need as much money as
- 50:10Speaker 4: a missile defense program.
- 50:13Speaker 27: When your objective is death to America, best expenditure is
- 50:18Speaker 27: supporting a Democrat party.
- 50:20Speaker 4: Yep, easily, because we'll wait, we'll get mad at the missiles.
- 50:26Speaker 4: We don't get mad at the Democrats, at least most
- 50:28Speaker 4: of us don't, uh, although Virginia Democrats seem to have
- 50:31Speaker 4: turned on Abigail Spenberger pretty quickly. And we'll get into
- 50:34Speaker 4: that a little bit more in a little while.
- 50:38Speaker 27: Uh oh, you're under cover agent's in trouble.
- 50:40Speaker 4: Yeah, our undercover cover mother has been caught out there
- 50:45Speaker 4: by too many people already. Forty three four eight eight
- 50:50Speaker 4: two four two one seven, uh is the number, and
- 50:55Speaker 4: you join in there. We have a minute or two
- 50:57Speaker 4: remaining here. And one of the Ryan's most recent pieces
- 51:02Speaker 4: scenarios were guarding boots on the ground. And as I've
- 51:05Speaker 4: said that, it's got to be about straight of horror moves.
- 51:10Speaker 4: If you don't establish a safe zone there, it's useless.
- 51:18Speaker 4: And this is the point of the order. This is
- 51:21Speaker 4: why I was asking about the civilians rising up, because they,
- 51:25Speaker 4: I think could be that force and this could be
- 51:29Speaker 4: you know, that foothold where they take their place defending
- 51:35Speaker 4: free trade and everything like that. But politically, you know,
- 51:41Speaker 4: as Clark mentioned, we're not going to get the support
- 51:44Speaker 4: for that because they want the gas prices higher. They
- 51:46Speaker 4: being the Marxists who want green energy China good of
- 51:52Speaker 4: veto keeping the straight of horror moves open because the
- 51:55Speaker 4: higher Europe's gas prices go, the more they buy Chinese
- 52:00Speaker 4: build electric cars, the more they built by Chinese built
- 52:08Speaker 4: solar panels. And in the laughable thing is we get blamed,
- 52:13Speaker 4: the president gets blamed for doing this for profit and
- 52:16Speaker 4: all of that stuff.
- 52:17Speaker 28: President, You've said Iranians would be mad if you stop
- 52:20Speaker 28: these attacks, But why would they want you to blow
- 52:23Speaker 28: up their infrastructure to cut off their power. Wouldn't that
- 52:26Speaker 28: be punishing Iranians for the actions of the regime.
- 52:29Speaker 29: They would be willing to just They would be willing
- 52:31Speaker 29: and it's suffering. They would be willing to suffer that
- 52:34Speaker 29: in order to have freedom the Iranians have. We've had
- 52:39Speaker 29: numerous intercepts, please keep bombing bombing.
- 52:43Speaker 4: So there you have it, sports fans from deep within.
- 52:45Speaker 4: So we'll see until tomorrow morning. I'm Joe Thomas, so
- 52:48Speaker 4: long and thanks for all the fish.
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