Latest / Inside The Moms Club / "Own Your Power": Veronica Webb
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- 0:14Speaker 1: Hi, Welcome to Inside the Mom's Club, where being a
- 0:17Speaker 1: mom is the coolest place to be. Here in the
- 0:20Speaker 1: Mom's Club, we believe that what embarrasses you now will
- 0:23Speaker 1: make a great story later. And let's face it, you
- 0:27Speaker 1: don't laugh sometimes you're gonna cry. Join us in having
- 0:31Speaker 1: a good laugh together. I'm Monica Samuels. You are now
- 0:35Speaker 1: inside the Mom's Club, your private destination for all things
- 0:39Speaker 1: mom in the same running welcome Mom's Welcome to Inside
- 0:45Speaker 1: the Mom's Club. I'm your host, Monica Samuels, and I'm
- 0:49Speaker 1: here with my lovely co host, Julie Orchid.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Hi, I missed you.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I know Julie was away for a little while, but
- 0:57Speaker 1: she is back back and ready, so excited and we're
- 1:01Speaker 1: going to have a great, great show today.
- 1:03Speaker 2: I'm so exciting, So I really am.
- 1:05Speaker 1: We haven't seen each other for a while because you
- 1:09Speaker 1: had some other things going on.
- 1:10Speaker 2: I had a small diagnosis of breast cancer.
- 1:13Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're back, so we're so excited about that.
- 1:17Speaker 1: But yeah, I so, I don't know if you were
- 1:18Speaker 1: at the party. Well, I don't think you were there.
- 1:22Speaker 1: I was at a lunch with our other friends and
- 1:24Speaker 1: I was asking them all, should I get a facelift
- 1:28Speaker 1: because I think a little one, A little one. Well, yeah,
- 1:32Speaker 1: you weren't at that one, I don't think because I said,
- 1:35Speaker 1: I feel like, now I've got a little bit of
- 1:37Speaker 1: Richard Nixon going on, you know, just a little right,
- 1:40Speaker 1: all right, all right? But they said they didn't think,
- 1:43Speaker 1: So what did you?
- 1:44Speaker 2: What do you think I would have said if I
- 1:45Speaker 2: was at that lunch.
- 1:47Speaker 1: I think you might have said, no, yeah, well thank you.
- 1:50Speaker 2: I appreciate that anyway, but no, But.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I've kind of gotten in this kick now is that
- 1:54Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, I guess we all get
- 1:56Speaker 1: to a certain place where we feel like, oh, we
- 1:58Speaker 1: need to change our you know.
- 2:02Speaker 3: Listen, I don't come by this just saying it because
- 2:04Speaker 3: I feel like I'm actually worked for and so I did.
- 2:08Speaker 3: I worked for you know, my background as a nurse.
- 2:11Speaker 3: I went and worked for them and done, you know,
- 2:14Speaker 3: taking care of post off tons of people for facelifts.
- 2:17Speaker 2: So there's I mean, I.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Think it's a fine balance. I think you can overdo it.
- 2:22Speaker 3: I think you can try to search for something that
- 2:25Speaker 3: you may not get on the other end of the
- 2:27Speaker 3: knife or you know, so it's all about the natural glow.
- 2:30Speaker 3: What do you like, what do you makes you feel good?
- 2:34Speaker 1: Well? And you know what kind of stops me anyway?
- 2:36Speaker 1: You know, I'm a hypochondriac, so there is that, yeah,
- 2:39Speaker 1: but I'm also an attorney and very cautious about everything.
- 2:44Speaker 1: And I think the last thing I would ever have
- 2:46Speaker 1: happened is I go in for one of those procedures.
- 2:48Speaker 1: It doesn't go well. Everyone has to come to my
- 2:50Speaker 1: funeral and they're all sad, and they're all saying, you know,
- 2:54Speaker 1: we wouldn't have to be here if she wasn't so vain.
- 2:57Speaker 1: So that's why I'm like, I'm not gonna go do this,
- 3:01Speaker 1: but that doesn't stop me from doing other things. So
- 3:04Speaker 1: I bought a red light. Oh boy, I haven't really
- 3:08Speaker 1: tried it yet. And the guy that sold it to
- 3:10Speaker 1: me was it south By Southwest. He was very lovely
- 3:12Speaker 1: before he told me.
- 3:13Speaker 2: What's the trick that he said to you?
- 3:15Speaker 1: Well, he said it was eleven thousand dollars, but they
- 3:17Speaker 1: had a special for seven thousand, but he but he
- 3:20Speaker 1: sold it to me for two.
- 3:21Speaker 2: Oh my god.
- 3:23Speaker 1: I haven't tried it yet, but so you know I
- 3:25Speaker 1: did that. Haven't you bring it? No, I don't. I
- 3:29Speaker 1: haven't even opened the box yet, but I haven't. For me,
- 3:32Speaker 1: buying things and getting him is like half the battle, Like, oh,
- 3:35Speaker 1: well I got the whatever, so now I should be
- 3:37Speaker 1: all good. Right. But so I did that, and then
- 3:40Speaker 1: I bought this other thing that you you you turn
- 3:43Speaker 1: it on and it gets really cold and it gets
- 3:45Speaker 1: rid of the puffiness. I haven't opened that box either.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Flight, but the box I did open.
- 3:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 3:50Speaker 1: So I went to Neemans and this salesperson told me
- 3:54Speaker 1: about this product called I think it's Nobelt Panacea, which
- 3:59Speaker 1: is this Mois juriser that costs a ridiculous amount of money.
- 4:03Speaker 1: And I've told her, I said, my husband, I'll rob
- 4:07Speaker 1: a bank to do this. It's ridiculous how expensive it is.
- 4:11Speaker 1: But she was trying to sell me on the fact
- 4:12Speaker 1: that a Nobel laureate, no, no Nobel chemist, he won
- 4:18Speaker 1: the Nobel Prize. Yeah you want for chemistry, but then
- 4:22Speaker 1: you created this, and so she gave me samples and
- 4:25Speaker 1: I was like, well, they really do work or they
- 4:28Speaker 1: feel I feel really good about it. So now I,
- 4:31Speaker 1: you know, go take cash out at the bank and
- 4:33Speaker 1: run over to because Mark, if you know the bill.
- 4:35Speaker 1: I just try to avoid that part of it. But
- 4:39Speaker 1: but I did tell her. I said, if this stuff
- 4:40Speaker 1: doesn't work, I'm gonna take this up with a Nobel committee,
- 4:43Speaker 1: because you know, if they can't fix your skin, I mean,
- 4:46Speaker 1: what are they doing over there? A lot of these
- 4:48Speaker 1: products though they do say on there it's a Nobel,
- 4:53Speaker 1: a Nobel chemist or engineer, or.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Makes it sell better.
- 4:57Speaker 1: I guess.
- 4:58Speaker 2: I guess, well, your skin looks amazing.
- 4:59Speaker 3: First of all, let's say it must be working, because yeah,
- 5:02Speaker 3: you're always stunning to me.
- 5:04Speaker 1: Oh well, thank you, you're just lunch. You're so complimentary. Yes,
- 5:09Speaker 1: I'll get your drinks later. Thank you, Julie. You did
- 5:11Speaker 1: that really well. When we rehearse what you were supposed
- 5:14Speaker 1: to say, you did it better than you did it
- 5:17Speaker 1: in practice. You for complimenting.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Here's the thing about that, And I'm going to say
- 5:20Speaker 3: that I just flew from New York last night and
- 5:22Speaker 3: we spent a lot of time going to different places,
- 5:26Speaker 3: and I did get caught up in the whole skincare
- 5:29Speaker 3: department and glow department, you know what I mean.
- 5:31Speaker 2: And I had everybody try something, so it's it's a
- 5:35Speaker 2: lost You know, what do I do What's most important
- 5:39Speaker 2: to me?
- 5:39Speaker 3: And it's it's an industry that is worth, you know,
- 5:44Speaker 3: discovering and seeing what works for you.
- 5:46Speaker 1: And it's kind of and it's fun too.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Oh my god, it was a blast.
- 5:50Speaker 1: I mean you can't like yeah that and close I mean,
- 5:53Speaker 1: to do it with your.
- 5:54Speaker 3: Adult child too was even better because this is a
- 5:58Speaker 3: whole new relationship you have.
- 6:01Speaker 1: Sadly, I can't share the experience of face of moisturizer
- 6:05Speaker 1: with my son. He just doesn't. He tunes out if.
- 6:08Speaker 2: I okay, wow, so they all need it even if.
- 6:10Speaker 1: Well he does need it, that's a whole demonstrat No,
- 6:12Speaker 1: he doesn't. Well, we are very very very lucky to
- 6:16Speaker 1: today today. We are so excited to have with us
- 6:19Speaker 1: someone who can talk to us about you know, what's
- 6:23Speaker 1: really appropriate because she talks a lot about that a
- 6:25Speaker 1: lot in her writing, you know, at this stage of
- 6:28Speaker 1: our lives, like what what makes sense. She is a
- 6:32Speaker 1: supermodel who has graced the covers of top international fashion
- 6:36Speaker 1: magazines like Vogue, Essence, and l She's a recognized authority
- 6:41Speaker 1: on beauty through her career as a model, TV personality,
- 6:44Speaker 1: and the founder of the pro aging blog web on
- 6:49Speaker 1: the Fly and the blog Hope mess on Substack. I love,
- 6:54Speaker 1: love her motto, which is own your age, own your beauty,
- 6:58Speaker 1: own your power. She is the mom of a blended
- 7:02Speaker 1: family of four. Please welcome Veronica Web, Welcome to the mosque. Veronica.
- 7:09Speaker 5: Hi, everybody the.
- 7:10Speaker 1: Orion, thank you for joining us today. Well, you are
- 7:15Speaker 1: so many of the moms out there who are in
- 7:16Speaker 1: our audience are just gonna love to listen to this.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And there's so many things that that we're going to
- 7:22Speaker 1: cover here. We don't have a lot of time, but
- 7:24Speaker 1: I guess the first thing I want to share with
- 7:26Speaker 1: our audience is tell us a little bit about your career.
- 7:29Speaker 1: How did you started as a writer? Correct a fashion writer?
- 7:32Speaker 1: And you well, it became a number mom.
- 7:35Speaker 5: There were two things that I always loved growing up.
- 7:37Speaker 5: One was having people read to me because I'm very dyslexic,
- 7:42Speaker 5: but I love stories. Yeah, so as a child, like
- 7:44Speaker 5: you know, I would I would beg my sisters to
- 7:47Speaker 5: read to me. I'm like, I'll go to the store
- 7:48Speaker 5: for you, i'll wash your car, I'll do whatever, you know,
- 7:54Speaker 5: but please read to me every night. And you know,
- 7:56Speaker 5: it took me a while to actually grasp reading. And
- 7:58Speaker 5: then once I did was you know, it met like
- 8:01Speaker 5: everything to me and then once I grasped reading, then
- 8:04Speaker 5: writing came behind that, and I went from a kid
- 8:06Speaker 5: who struggled to read until like really the third grade
- 8:10Speaker 5: to you know, I was winning writing competitions and always
- 8:12Speaker 5: published in the school newspaper. And the first time I
- 8:17Speaker 5: actually got like my big reward for writing, I want
- 8:20Speaker 5: a contest and got to go to another school in Toronto,
- 8:24Speaker 5: and I was like, oh my gosh, you know, I'm
- 8:26Speaker 5: seeing the world and growing up. My mother made all
- 8:28Speaker 5: my clothes. My mother growing up on a farm in
- 8:31Speaker 5: Ohio during the depression. So my mother knew how to
- 8:34Speaker 5: make everything, I mean everything.
- 8:37Speaker 4: You know.
- 8:38Speaker 5: She can make a down jacket, she can make an
- 8:39Speaker 5: evening gown, she could dye your shoes to match. She
- 8:43Speaker 5: made furniture. You know, she baked, she cooked, you name it.
- 8:47Speaker 5: Something creative was always coming out of her hand to
- 8:49Speaker 5: sustain her family. So the kind of love of communication
- 8:54Speaker 5: through the written word and then fashion kind of you know,
- 8:57Speaker 5: all rolled up into one and to model when I
- 9:01Speaker 5: was young, and my mother said no, very wisely, you know,
- 9:04Speaker 5: she thought, well, you better get accepted to college, you know,
- 9:10Speaker 5: get a scholarship, have a regular job, learn the value
- 9:13Speaker 5: of a dollar. So I did all that, then got
- 9:16Speaker 5: accepted to Parsons, went to New York. When I was eighteen,
- 9:19Speaker 5: worked at a store in Soho as a cashier, got
- 9:23Speaker 5: discovered by a team that was shooting for Vogue right
- 9:27Speaker 5: in front of my store, and then I went off
- 9:30Speaker 5: to Paris. And the whole time to supplement my income,
- 9:33Speaker 5: I was always writing little articles for you know. That
- 9:37Speaker 5: was back when print was everywhere, right, so you know
- 9:40Speaker 5: you could pick up a little money here and there
- 9:42Speaker 5: writing for paper magazine or The Voice, or Details or
- 9:46Speaker 5: l or whatever. So you know, it was always sort
- 9:49Speaker 5: of my safety hatch, having writing, and that's continued till now.
- 9:54Speaker 5: I just started un launched to call him on substack,
- 9:57Speaker 5: that new platform that everyone is on as called hote Mess.
- 10:01Speaker 5: And you know, I really like to talk about the
- 10:04Speaker 5: glamorous mess of being a woman, right, you know, and
- 10:08Speaker 5: the the the frustration and the adventure and the satisfaction
- 10:13Speaker 5: of pulling ourselves and our families together every day.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you find it to be? Is it
- 10:19Speaker 3: still so fun? Is it still so do you still love?
- 10:23Speaker 3: You know what I mean when you when you're getting
- 10:24Speaker 3: ready or putting yourself together. I mean, there's so much
- 10:28Speaker 3: I love, you know, listening to you and seeing the
- 10:30Speaker 3: sub stackets.
- 10:31Speaker 2: I'm on it. So what's your favorite part?
- 10:34Speaker 5: Yes, it is, it's still fun getting together because one
- 10:39Speaker 5: of the I mean, you know, you go through periods
- 10:41Speaker 5: where it's easy. You go through periods where it's really
- 10:43Speaker 5: frustrating because our bodies change so much, our needs change
- 10:46Speaker 5: so much. You know, we're women, like our bodies change
- 10:48Speaker 5: like every every twenty one days. We're just you know,
- 10:50Speaker 5: we're built to grow and change and more. But for me,
- 10:54Speaker 5: there's so many good memories of growing up and getting ready,
- 10:57Speaker 5: you know, with my sisters, you know, and then going
- 11:01Speaker 5: to Paris and New York and working with like legendary
- 11:04Speaker 5: makeup artists like Kevin o'coin and oor Bay and you know,
- 11:10Speaker 5: you name it. And then also every time you get ready,
- 11:14Speaker 5: I feel like there's so much hope in it right,
- 11:18Speaker 5: Like you know, as Adnalaia, who is a great friend
- 11:21Speaker 5: of mine, the designer, he used to say, you know,
- 11:23Speaker 5: women buy these stresses. They come in here and they
- 11:25Speaker 5: buy these stresses, honey, because they give them hope. You know,
- 11:28Speaker 5: hanging in your closet it represents like somewhere where you're
- 11:32Speaker 5: going to go in the future. It represents, you know,
- 11:34Speaker 5: another chance at going out there and getting what you
- 11:37Speaker 5: want in life.
- 11:38Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 11:38Speaker 5: So you know, I love the combination of nostalgia. Think
- 11:42Speaker 5: in my family, my sisters, you know, my dearest friends,
- 11:45Speaker 5: and then the hope of the future. Oh, you know,
- 11:48Speaker 5: like what's going to happen today when I get dressed
- 11:50Speaker 5: and go out there and you know, take my chance.
- 11:53Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like I can ask someone out.
- 11:56Speaker 1: It's nice to have an actual supermodel on to ask
- 11:59Speaker 1: this question. I've always wondered because I look at how
- 12:02Speaker 1: some of them are dressed and what they're wearing. Like
- 12:05Speaker 1: I a couple of years ago, I broke my foot
- 12:07Speaker 1: badly and I had to have two surgeries, and the
- 12:10Speaker 1: doctor told me, she said, you're like the hundredth woman
- 12:12Speaker 1: we've had in here, because you all wear high heels
- 12:15Speaker 1: all these years, and then you make your feet a
- 12:18Speaker 1: little weak or whatever. What what's the real experience? Sometimes
- 12:22Speaker 1: I've seen like a runway model and I'm thinking I
- 12:24Speaker 1: could not walk in those shoes more than a couple
- 12:29Speaker 1: of steps. So what's the experience? You have to be
- 12:32Speaker 1: kind of an athlete, and you know in your.
- 12:34Speaker 5: Beautiful here's the thing you know, those high heels are
- 12:37Speaker 5: like wearing point shoes. So yeah, you don't have to
- 12:41Speaker 5: wear them very long, you don't have to go very far,
- 12:44Speaker 5: but you do have to perform at your highest level
- 12:47Speaker 5: when they're on. And so, you know, one of the
- 12:50Speaker 5: things that I quickly learned to do because you know,
- 12:54Speaker 5: if you can't walk in heels, you can't get paid.
- 12:57Speaker 5: So you know that that definitely raises the stakes tremendously
- 13:01Speaker 5: and very quickly. But you just put on high heels
- 13:04Speaker 5: and you do everything in them. You know, you go
- 13:06Speaker 5: to the grocery store, you drive, you run, you jump
- 13:09Speaker 5: around until you kind of get comfortable with it. You know,
- 13:12Speaker 5: you kind of have to make your feet hard in
- 13:15Speaker 5: the same way that a dancer has to make their
- 13:17Speaker 5: feet hard. And I've had, you know, situations where in
- 13:24Speaker 5: a Carl Laugerfeldt show, I went down the runway my heel,
- 13:27Speaker 5: like both both the heels just blew off. Yeah, and
- 13:31Speaker 5: you know, I felt I fell down flat in front
- 13:33Speaker 5: of Anna Winter, the legendaryly unforgiving editor chief of American Vogue,
- 13:39Speaker 5: who Amanda Priestley from uh Devilware's product was based on,
- 13:46Speaker 5: you know, and I felt so terrible because I felt like,
- 13:48Speaker 5: oh my god. You know, I let Carl down, and
- 13:51Speaker 5: I let down all the women who work in the
- 13:53Speaker 5: artillier who have spent months and months selling this one dress,
- 13:57Speaker 5: you know, and the dress only has like five minutes
- 14:00Speaker 5: to do its thing, even less like probably three minutes
- 14:03Speaker 5: for the world to see it and for it to
- 14:05Speaker 5: make an impact. So yes, high heels can be extremely scary.
- 14:11Speaker 5: They are not easy to walk in, but you know
- 14:13Speaker 5: you balance that also. You know when I say own
- 14:17Speaker 5: your power, it's like every day I think of what
- 14:19Speaker 5: I can do to make my body stronger. So you know,
- 14:23Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time also actually working on
- 14:26Speaker 5: my feet like a dancer. So that and I still
- 14:29Speaker 5: do every day because you know, your your toes have
- 14:34Speaker 5: a lot to do with balance, and as we age,
- 14:36Speaker 5: our toes lose feeling. So if you're not working your
- 14:39Speaker 5: feet out, like flexing them, strengthening them, you have a
- 14:43Speaker 5: good chance of falling and breaking your hip. So health
- 14:47Speaker 5: is a really high priority.
- 14:49Speaker 1: That's well, I wish, yeah, I should have done that
- 14:52Speaker 1: more when I tell practice law I'm wearing because I yeah,
- 14:55Speaker 1: I just I literally what took four steps rolled my
- 14:57Speaker 1: foot and it broke. Yeah, so you have build up
- 15:00Speaker 1: to that. So both so your daughters are one is
- 15:04Speaker 1: professional model now and one is aspiring to be.
- 15:06Speaker 5: Is that yes? Yes?
- 15:08Speaker 1: How do you feel about that as their mom who's
- 15:11Speaker 1: been through this.
- 15:12Speaker 5: Well, you know, of course they wanted to do it
- 15:15Speaker 5: when they were eleven and twelve, and all their friends
- 15:17Speaker 5: wanted them to do it when they were eleven and twelve.
- 15:19Speaker 5: And you know, people used to say, because you know,
- 15:21Speaker 5: they're both tall, and they're both you know, they both
- 15:24Speaker 5: are kind of you know built. You know, they've got
- 15:25Speaker 5: enough real estate to be models. Because people always ask
- 15:29Speaker 5: me why you have to be tall, and it's like, well,
- 15:31Speaker 5: so the clothes are more visible from the runway, and
- 15:33Speaker 5: so that the designer can you know, show an exaggerated silhouette.
- 15:38Speaker 5: You know, it's like you're literally a billboard. You need
- 15:40Speaker 5: to be billboard size in order for the clothes to translate,
- 15:43Speaker 5: you know, through the Internet and magazines whatever. But you know,
- 15:46Speaker 5: it's the same advice that my mother gave me, which was,
- 15:50Speaker 5: you have to get by on you have to learn
- 15:52Speaker 5: how to get by on your personality, your intelligence, and
- 15:56Speaker 5: you can only be a kid once and being a
- 16:00Speaker 5: pro is the opposite of being a kid. So, you know,
- 16:03Speaker 5: I wanted them both to get through high school. You know,
- 16:07Speaker 5: work at Applebee's, understand the value of dollars, get scholarships, concentrate,
- 16:14Speaker 5: get through school far enough that once they started, it
- 16:17Speaker 5: would be easy to go back and finish school. So
- 16:22Speaker 5: it's a much different world too than when I started.
- 16:24Speaker 5: You know, they're in the post me too era, so
- 16:29Speaker 5: there's a lot more protection, there's a lot more accountability.
- 16:34Speaker 2: And I mean, thanks God, Yeah.
- 16:37Speaker 5: Yeah, thank God. And also it's so much easier to
- 16:39Speaker 5: keep in touch now, Like when I went to Paris
- 16:42Speaker 5: when I was nineteen with one with like a suitcase
- 16:47Speaker 5: that was the size of a carry on, didn't even
- 16:50Speaker 5: have wheels, and one hundred dollars and a one way
- 16:53Speaker 5: plane ticket. If I wanted to call home, I had
- 16:56Speaker 5: to work save up enough money, then go get you know,
- 17:00Speaker 5: the exact kind of coins, and then go to the
- 17:03Speaker 5: and go to a phone booth and put the money
- 17:06Speaker 5: in the phone booth and hope that somebody was home
- 17:10Speaker 5: to answer the phone.
- 17:12Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 17:12Speaker 1: Wow, that's true, that's true. I remember those. Wow, Veronica.
- 17:16Speaker 3: There's so many questions I have for you, but the
- 17:18Speaker 3: one that sticks out to me the most is you've
- 17:20Speaker 3: got something here that you know. I'm sure when you
- 17:23Speaker 3: public speak, I'm sure people are wanting to know all
- 17:26Speaker 3: about the sexier second half of life. So we have
- 17:31Speaker 3: adult our most of our kids are adult kids, and
- 17:33Speaker 3: which is a whole different relationship. But you have this
- 17:37Speaker 3: other half to go, and I want to know can
- 17:40Speaker 3: you talk.
- 17:41Speaker 2: About that and what that means?
- 17:42Speaker 3: Because I think a lot of people are saying, Hey,
- 17:44Speaker 3: what's next, what's going you know, what's going to be?
- 17:47Speaker 2: What is it going to be for me? And I'd
- 17:49Speaker 2: love to hear what it is going to be for you.
- 17:52Speaker 5: Well, you know, I just turned sixty last month, and
- 17:56Speaker 5: you know, I was talking to my friend the other
- 17:58Speaker 5: day about how thirty was so scary. You know, Bertie
- 18:02Speaker 5: felt like, you know, I'm not young anymore. It's all
- 18:05Speaker 5: on me now, you know, there's there's there's no more
- 18:08Speaker 5: you know, she's just a kid. Yeah, you know, there's
- 18:12Speaker 5: there's no more excuses. And then forty, you know, really
- 18:15Speaker 5: felt like, okay, wow, you know there's I'm one hundred
- 18:19Speaker 5: and ten percent in adulthood. Fifty was scary for me,
- 18:25Speaker 5: if you want to know the truth, because I you know,
- 18:27Speaker 5: you look up and you're like, wow, I'm at the
- 18:29Speaker 5: fifty yard line. And then in my fifties, I hit
- 18:34Speaker 5: a second puberty, which is, you know, aka menopause. But
- 18:38Speaker 5: there's no textbook, right, so like ten years ago, people
- 18:42Speaker 5: weren't talking about menopause as frequently and as openly as
- 18:46Speaker 5: they are now. So I got hit with every single
- 18:50Speaker 5: symptom that you can imagine, from night sweats to you know, burning,
- 18:55Speaker 5: tingling on the back of my hands, to pain, just know,
- 19:00Speaker 5: brain flog, you know, you name it. I had it right,
- 19:04Speaker 5: you know, and I spent probably you know, the first
- 19:08Speaker 5: half of my fifties looking for relief, you know. And
- 19:16Speaker 5: I spent a lot of time, you know really and
- 19:18Speaker 5: that's when you know, on your age, on your beauty,
- 19:21Speaker 5: on your power came up and for me, because it
- 19:25Speaker 5: was like so much was changing, and you know, I
- 19:30Speaker 5: had to really accept that. You know, we're meant to change.
- 19:32Speaker 5: We are meant to change, and you have to go
- 19:34Speaker 5: with it. And whatever your body is supposed to do,
- 19:38Speaker 5: just enhance.
- 19:39Speaker 3: It, right, you know, So I trying to change it.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Don't try to go backwards. Pro Aging is basically what
- 19:46Speaker 3: you know, part of your messages. I think and that's
- 19:49Speaker 3: why I would say to you.
- 19:50Speaker 2: You're gorgeous.
- 19:51Speaker 1: It's it's a great why would you well know, it's
- 19:53Speaker 1: a great message. And when you say, you know, when
- 19:55Speaker 1: I turned fifty, the most offensive thing that happened to
- 19:57Speaker 1: me is ARP felt compelled to send me a card,
- 20:00Speaker 1: I'm like, I did not ask for this. I should
- 20:02Speaker 1: have to ask for this, but you know what, I
- 20:04Speaker 1: should own it. I'm fifty. Yeah, I'm fifty. You know
- 20:07Speaker 1: that's there's no shame in.
- 20:09Speaker 5: It at all.
- 20:09Speaker 1: It's it's part of life if you make it that and.
- 20:13Speaker 5: You know, like for me, the big thing was it's
- 20:16Speaker 5: kind of like, you know, you have to, like you know,
- 20:18Speaker 5: Cher said, you know, snap out of it. You're not old,
- 20:21Speaker 5: you made it. You made it, You're a lot, you're healthy,
- 20:24Speaker 5: everything basically works. You know, be thankful for what you've
- 20:27Speaker 5: built and the gifts that you had. Sixty is like
- 20:32Speaker 5: very cool because you know, I feel like that second
- 20:37Speaker 5: puberty is behind me in a lot of ways, you know,
- 20:40Speaker 5: like all all this suffering from you know, the perimenopause
- 20:44Speaker 5: is really tamped down a lot, and I don't have
- 20:48Speaker 5: any and then like just like professionally, yeah, I feel
- 20:51Speaker 5: like I don't have anything to prove anymore. There's things
- 20:54Speaker 5: that I want to do, but I don't have anything
- 20:56Speaker 5: to prove anymore, right and you know I don't And
- 21:01Speaker 5: I feel like the banner for this decade. What's up
- 21:04Speaker 5: in lights in my mind right now is permission to enjoy.
- 21:10Speaker 3: Like that I do, like I do, like I mean,
- 21:13Speaker 3: I've been saying yes a lot lately, So say yes
- 21:15Speaker 3: to yourself, so yes, you know, and give yourself permission.
- 21:20Speaker 1: So when we started, when we were talking at the
- 21:21Speaker 1: beginning of the show, you know, I have spent a
- 21:23Speaker 1: lot of money on different things. What's your what's your
- 21:26Speaker 1: thought about women at at sixty? A lot of them
- 21:30Speaker 1: get facelifts. Then what did your thought about the surgeon
- 21:34Speaker 1: versus the the red light?
- 21:39Speaker 5: Here's I think that, you know, it's extremely individual. You know.
- 21:45Speaker 5: I also think that there's so much that we can
- 21:49Speaker 5: do aesthetically that's more about building up tissue than sort
- 21:54Speaker 5: of you know, moving things around. Because I always say,
- 22:01Speaker 5: like sweat gets you probably about eighty five ninety percent
- 22:06Speaker 5: of where you want to go physically, and then you know,
- 22:11Speaker 5: science can help you cross the finish line. And there's
- 22:13Speaker 5: so many great things because you know, obviously, like who
- 22:16Speaker 5: would love to lay down and then you wake up
- 22:18Speaker 5: and you know there's ten twenty years of sort of
- 22:22Speaker 5: gravity released from your face. But I'm also really scared
- 22:28Speaker 5: of anesthesia. Yeah, I'm scared of like, you know, who's
- 22:32Speaker 5: gonna like you know, what if it doesn't work like
- 22:35Speaker 5: you said, what if you don't like it? What if
- 22:37Speaker 5: you know, they don't close properly and you end up
- 22:40Speaker 5: with a nightmare. So you know, there's there's things that
- 22:44Speaker 5: I do like. I really like soft wave, which is
- 22:49Speaker 5: it's like a very powerful red light that you get
- 22:54Speaker 5: in the doctor's office. It's non surgical, it's non invasive,
- 22:59Speaker 5: and it really enhances what your body would do naturally,
- 23:03Speaker 5: which is which is to build and produce collagen. We're
- 23:07Speaker 5: not going to get any more bone because we lose
- 23:09Speaker 5: bone in our faces and our jaws too, you know,
- 23:11Speaker 5: as as we age. But I really feel like, you know,
- 23:16Speaker 5: if you're fighting for muscle all the time and building muscle,
- 23:21Speaker 5: whatever you do like in the gym also shows up
- 23:23Speaker 5: in your face.
- 23:24Speaker 6: True.
- 23:26Speaker 5: And then there's another thing I really like. It's called
- 23:28Speaker 5: pure impact, which is it's like these little things they
- 23:31Speaker 5: look like almost like a mouse on your computer, and
- 23:36Speaker 5: the little pods just kind of go on your body
- 23:39Speaker 5: with sticky things. It's also another thing you do at
- 23:41Speaker 5: the dermatologist's office, but it produces the equivalent of like,
- 23:45Speaker 5: you know, five thousand, five thousand bicep curls or twenty
- 23:50Speaker 5: thousand swats or twenty thousand sit ups, and it takes
- 23:55Speaker 5: an hour, and it's non invasive, and it doesn't hurt you,
- 23:58Speaker 5: and there's no aftercare, and it just and it levels
- 24:02Speaker 5: everything up, you know. So I feel like the more
- 24:05Speaker 5: muscle you build anywhere on your body, it all shows
- 24:09Speaker 5: up in your face.
- 24:10Speaker 1: So I wrote all of that down. Hell yeah, no,
- 24:14Speaker 1: I wrote all that down Julie after the show. We're
- 24:17Speaker 1: near Beverly Hill. Surely there's a dermatologist here somewhere, or
- 24:20Speaker 1: if you have a recommendation, text it to me. Well,
- 24:22Speaker 1: we have some lovely ladies who joined us and have
- 24:25Speaker 1: questions for Veronica. They are zoomer Mom. So welcome zoomer Moms.
- 24:29Speaker 1: Welcome to the Mom's Club Club.
- 24:32Speaker 5: Heret clop Heather.
- 24:34Speaker 1: Yeah, so, Heather, tell us your full name, where you're from,
- 24:40Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself, and do you have a
- 24:42Speaker 1: question for Veronica?
- 24:44Speaker 5: Hi?
- 24:44Speaker 4: Everyone, Happy Monday. I'm Heather Powell. I'm from Austin, Texas.
- 24:49Speaker 4: Julie and I have children the same age. My big
- 24:52Speaker 4: fan of Julie and Ronica. Thank you for your honesty.
- 24:58Speaker 4: You know, I think that to be fifty seven, I'm
- 25:01Speaker 4: an identical twin and we laugh about who's going to
- 25:03Speaker 4: go first to try what new thing. But I love
- 25:06Speaker 4: that you talk about, you know, giving yourself to time
- 25:11Speaker 4: to enjoy, permission to enjoy life. You know, I think
- 25:14Speaker 4: we all have children that are older and are getting older,
- 25:17Speaker 4: and we're having more time to ourselves.
- 25:20Speaker 5: I mean, what is that.
- 25:21Speaker 4: I find it very hard for me to say I
- 25:23Speaker 4: can relax or I can take it easier, take the
- 25:26Speaker 4: day off and go read a book or go for
- 25:29Speaker 4: a long walk. I feel like I'm so task driven
- 25:31Speaker 4: and I'm still working. I mean, I love my job,
- 25:34Speaker 4: but it's the downtime. How do you embrace that and
- 25:38Speaker 4: really kind of make the most of it?
- 25:40Speaker 5: You know, That's that's such a good question, Heather, because
- 25:44Speaker 5: one of the biggest I would say emotional adjustments I
- 25:49Speaker 5: had to make was when everybody left, when my youngest
- 25:53Speaker 5: went off to college, and suddenly the organizing principle of
- 25:57Speaker 5: my day even though I'm working full time, you know,
- 25:59Speaker 5: but the kids aren't there and everything is organized around them,
- 26:03Speaker 5: and you know, selfishly also, like helping your children gives
- 26:08Speaker 5: you such a sense of accomplishment and we get you know,
- 26:16Speaker 5: and you get kind of hooked on that feeling, right,
- 26:19Speaker 5: And so that's why it's really hard to then like
- 26:23Speaker 5: go read a book on a Saturday, because you know,
- 26:26Speaker 5: you're used to being of service to someone else. And
- 26:32Speaker 5: then and then you think, like, you know, I have
- 26:35Speaker 5: to like produce something, I have to show something, I
- 26:37Speaker 5: have to do something. But the thing is is it's
- 26:40Speaker 5: okay to just do something that edifies you, that makes
- 26:45Speaker 5: you stronger, that adds up to your mental health. And
- 26:49Speaker 5: so sometimes I have to trick myself and say, well,
- 26:55Speaker 5: I'm doing this to fight dementia. So you know, let
- 26:59Speaker 5: me do this very long and incredibly complicated puzzle or problem.
- 27:03Speaker 5: But it's really to fight dementia. It's not just because
- 27:05Speaker 5: I'm having fun here. And then I have to remind
- 27:09Speaker 5: myself it's okay to enjoy your life. You know, you
- 27:12Speaker 5: didn't kill yourself from the time that you were thirteen
- 27:14Speaker 5: years old, like babysitting and cutting lawns and delivering milk.
- 27:18Speaker 5: You know, to still be trying to kill yourself now,
- 27:20Speaker 5: like what for? You know, I mean nature going to
- 27:24Speaker 5: kill you soon enough.
- 27:25Speaker 3: The retrain is no joke. And I know Heathery, yeah,
- 27:30Speaker 3: then I are tight and we know that. You know,
- 27:32Speaker 3: we both have kids going off to college, and it'll
- 27:35Speaker 3: be uh, the one only one for Heather and the
- 27:38Speaker 3: last one for me. So I love having this interview
- 27:41Speaker 3: to enjoy.
- 27:42Speaker 2: I think you to enjoy it.
- 27:43Speaker 1: I think you'll get used to it, for I think
- 27:46Speaker 1: I'll have on some of some experiences. Karen, Welcome to
- 27:50Speaker 1: the Mom's Club. Tell us your full name, where you're from,
- 27:54Speaker 1: a little bit about yourself, and do you have a
- 27:56Speaker 1: question for Veronica.
- 27:58Speaker 6: Sure.
- 27:59Speaker 5: My name is Aaron Wheat.
- 28:02Speaker 6: I'm originally from Chicago, but I lived in Dallas for
- 28:06Speaker 6: over two decades. I have a fifteen year old son
- 28:11Speaker 6: who is a sophomore in high school. Namme Attias Dearly.
- 28:17Speaker 6: I had a deep question for you, but I decided
- 28:19Speaker 6: to change it too. I had two questions, but I'm
- 28:21Speaker 6: gonna go with the lighthearted question. When I was getting
- 28:24Speaker 6: ready for today, I read this interview that you did
- 28:28Speaker 6: with Denzel Washington back in nineteen ninety and I really
- 28:32Speaker 6: enjoyed it. It just transported me back to that era
- 28:35Speaker 6: and those iconic movies, some of which, well you weren't
- 28:39Speaker 6: in the same movies with them, but you were in
- 28:41Speaker 6: movies in the nineties, and you were talking about movies
- 28:43Speaker 6: in the nineties. And I couldn't help but when I
- 28:45Speaker 6: read it to think that if you were to interview
- 28:48Speaker 6: him today, it would be so much different than when
- 28:52Speaker 6: you did in the nineteen ninety. So I'm wondering if
- 28:55Speaker 6: you would, if there's anybody or anybody who interviewed it
- 28:59Speaker 6: back then, or anything you actually did back then in
- 29:01Speaker 6: the nineties that you would want to do again now.
- 29:06Speaker 1: Good question, Good question.
- 29:08Speaker 5: Yeah, things I did in the nineties that I would
- 29:11Speaker 5: want to do again now. Well, back then, I was
- 29:13Speaker 5: editor at large of Interview magazine that published that published
- 29:17Speaker 5: that interview. Let me see, I think, you know, I
- 29:25Speaker 5: would love to live in Paris again, that's for sure,
- 29:31Speaker 5: or somewhere in Europe maybe that I haven't that that
- 29:34Speaker 5: I've never lived before, like Rome, or somewhere like that,
- 29:37Speaker 5: you know, and just completely discover a whole new world again.
- 29:42Speaker 5: One of my favorite interviews back then that I did
- 29:45Speaker 5: you know she's she's not here anymore, but earth a
- 29:48Speaker 5: kit because you know, she was so clear minded and
- 29:56Speaker 5: unapologetically not a people pleaser. I've never met someone who
- 30:01Speaker 5: was less of a people pleaser than her, and I
- 30:03Speaker 5: always thought to myself, Wow, you know you should give lessons.
- 30:08Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'd be cool.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Love that. Thank you, Missy, Welcome to the Mom's Club.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Tell us your full name, where you're from, and a
- 30:18Speaker 1: little bit about yourself, and do you have a question.
- 30:21Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 30:21Speaker 7: So my name is Misty Ruffing and I live in Raleigh,
- 30:24Speaker 7: North Carolina, and I'm curious. I love the owning your
- 30:28Speaker 7: own age. I feel like I've done that forever. I've
- 30:31Speaker 7: refused to dye my hair, and I've never really gotten
- 30:34Speaker 7: into the beauty trends, but I love the being owning
- 30:39Speaker 7: your own age at my stage in life. But I'm
- 30:41Speaker 7: also thinking about my daughter, who I feel like that
- 30:44Speaker 7: the beauty standards in our culture have really pressured her
- 30:48Speaker 7: to get botox or to invest in and gimmicks and
- 30:54Speaker 7: things to make herself more beautiful. And as a biased mom,
- 30:57Speaker 7: I think she's gorgeous and I want to know how
- 31:00Speaker 7: how can we or how do you recommend that we
- 31:02Speaker 7: own our own age, but we also help the next
- 31:05Speaker 7: generation with that same confidence and pride.
- 31:09Speaker 5: That's such a great question, misty, And you know what
- 31:11Speaker 5: I have to tell you. Whenever, you know, my daughters
- 31:14Speaker 5: like get down on themselves and they're like, oh, you know,
- 31:17Speaker 5: I think I'm ugly. I think, you know, I don't
- 31:20Speaker 5: like my skin. I don't like, you know, the way
- 31:22Speaker 5: my body is shaped. And I always say to them,
- 31:24Speaker 5: well do you think I'm ugly? Do you think my
- 31:26Speaker 5: body has a weird shape? And I'm like, because you guys,
- 31:30Speaker 5: you're the best of me, and you're the best of
- 31:32Speaker 5: my mother. And so when I look at you know,
- 31:38Speaker 5: when I look at my face, I see my mother's face.
- 31:41Speaker 5: When I look at your face, I see my mother's
- 31:43Speaker 5: face and her mother's face. So you know, your beauty
- 31:48Speaker 5: is inherited, and you need to really and it's a wealth,
- 31:52Speaker 5: you know, it's it's the story of your family. It's
- 31:54Speaker 5: the story of who you are. It's the story of
- 31:56Speaker 5: like struggle and love and triumph and it's all right here.
- 32:00Speaker 5: And then you know, for these beauty standards, which like
- 32:04Speaker 5: when you watch movies, now everyone's teeth are the same
- 32:06Speaker 5: everyone's hair is the same. Everyone's eyebrows are the same.
- 32:09Speaker 5: You know, everyone's face is very much kind of the same,
- 32:14Speaker 5: you know, And and I tell my kids, you know,
- 32:16Speaker 5: like think about your eyebrows.
- 32:18Speaker 4: You know.
- 32:18Speaker 5: They're sisters, not twins, you know, and we're all perfectly imperfect.
- 32:22Speaker 5: Like one eyebrow goes up more, and one eyebrow goes
- 32:25Speaker 5: this way more. And you don't want to take away
- 32:28Speaker 5: what's individual to you, you know, Like I don't know
- 32:32Speaker 5: if anybody's watching White Lotus, but one of the actresses
- 32:36Speaker 5: on there has these gorgeous, like you know, easter bunny teeth,
- 32:40Speaker 5: and they give her so much personality, you know, and
- 32:43Speaker 5: they make her so much her And you know, here's
- 32:47Speaker 5: the thing, like you're not supposed to look like other people.
- 32:50Speaker 5: You know, you're supposed to look like your ancestors, and
- 32:52Speaker 5: you're supposed to look like yourself. And the biggest thing
- 32:57Speaker 5: is is lots of time we don't like the way
- 33:01Speaker 5: we look because we're neglecting something. So it's kind of
- 33:04Speaker 5: nice to take an inventory, like getting there and doing everything,
- 33:07Speaker 5: shower and you know, just like you know, where are
- 33:11Speaker 5: you not taking care of your skin? And then like
- 33:15Speaker 5: when you're in the gym, like you know, just kind
- 33:17Speaker 5: of take a quick inventory and and think about is
- 33:22Speaker 5: there any part of me that's weak and could use
- 33:24Speaker 5: some more attention, and then you build from there.
- 33:29Speaker 1: That's really, really, really really great advice, are you. I
- 33:33Speaker 1: hope you're writing a book about all of this. I mean,
- 33:36Speaker 1: I have to tell everyone write this down too, because
- 33:39Speaker 1: when I met Veronica, she told me she said, there's
- 33:42Speaker 1: one piece of beauty advice I'll give you is everybody
- 33:45Speaker 1: looks great with a hat and sunglasses. I'm like, that
- 33:49Speaker 1: is great advice. So everyone last summer they didn't see
- 33:52Speaker 1: my face partly because you know, and it's so true.
- 33:57Speaker 1: It's so true. Well, Julie and I have like a
- 34:00Speaker 1: quick we had we couldn't ignore fashion in all of this. Yes, okay,
- 34:04Speaker 1: what I love in your Instagram is watching you put
- 34:08Speaker 1: your outfits together. And what I do love you you
- 34:11Speaker 1: put together an outfit that isn't all one designer or anything.
- 34:16Speaker 1: I mean, you mix and match things and there's like
- 34:18Speaker 1: the other I was watching the other day, I want
- 34:19Speaker 1: more of my Banana Republic belt. And one of my
- 34:22Speaker 1: favorite places to co is Seison. They have beautiful clothes
- 34:26Speaker 1: and they're affordably priced. He so, do you can you
- 34:30Speaker 1: recommend for our moms out there? Some other brands like
- 34:34Speaker 1: that that you mix into your ensemble.
- 34:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's well, there's.
- 34:39Speaker 5: There's a great brand called Room five H two and
- 34:42Speaker 5: it's it's it's only online. It's actually one of my
- 34:46Speaker 5: girlfriends who's a mom, and it's all it's it's all
- 34:50Speaker 5: like handmade, beautiful cotton. This is actually one of her dresses.
- 34:54Speaker 5: And there's a lot of shirt dresses and gorgeous beautiful
- 34:57Speaker 5: fabrics and everything you can throw in the washing machine.
- 35:00Speaker 5: And some of them have had I have but four
- 35:04Speaker 5: or five of those dresses that I've had for like
- 35:06Speaker 5: fifteen years, and they always fit the same way, and
- 35:09Speaker 5: the fabric doesn't you know, change or fade or anything
- 35:13Speaker 5: like that. And I think anytime that you know, you
- 35:16Speaker 5: can work with a female founded brand and the clothes
- 35:21Speaker 5: are you know, beautifully made, it's worth the investment, says
- 35:26Speaker 5: On is one of those companies. Room five O two
- 35:28Speaker 5: is one of those companies. There's a little secret corner
- 35:33Speaker 5: of Zara called Collection, Yes, where you know everything is
- 35:37Speaker 5: everything is very elevated and lasts a long time. I
- 35:43Speaker 5: also really like a brand out of Montreal called Dodie,
- 35:47Speaker 5: And this is interesting because it's performance cashmere that has
- 35:53Speaker 5: but it's also body shaping at the same time, and
- 35:57Speaker 5: it's very light and really packable and beautiful colors and
- 36:01Speaker 5: easy for us to wear. I'm trying to think of
- 36:05Speaker 5: somewhere else that would be great for people. And Etsy
- 36:08Speaker 5: is a treasure trove.
- 36:09Speaker 2: Yeah, you can find treasure trove well so much.
- 36:14Speaker 1: But it's not often. I take a lot of notes
- 36:16Speaker 1: in these interviews.
- 36:16Speaker 2: I watching you, and then I got jealous, and so
- 36:18Speaker 2: then I started writing.
- 36:21Speaker 3: Reason I have a I have a fashion question because
- 36:24Speaker 3: I've started to notice myself doing this lately, like I've
- 36:27Speaker 3: been enjoying it more and more. And I work in
- 36:30Speaker 3: the store in Austin called Good Company, and it has
- 36:34Speaker 3: been It's not just about the clothes.
- 36:36Speaker 2: It was the way it made me feel.
- 36:38Speaker 3: It was the way that you know, I was able,
- 36:40Speaker 3: the energy that I was able to put out.
- 36:43Speaker 2: I felt beautiful, I felt confident.
- 36:45Speaker 3: And so I've started to take a rack of in
- 36:48Speaker 3: my room and you'll put out a few things and
- 36:50Speaker 3: you'll lay and you'll match, and can you speak to
- 36:53Speaker 3: the process of that, like where where does the energy
- 36:56Speaker 3: come from and the power when you put something together
- 36:58Speaker 3: that you love and you feel good in.
- 37:01Speaker 5: Well, one thing I feel like when you're really you know, preparing,
- 37:06Speaker 5: because you know, ninety nine percent of modeling and also
- 37:09Speaker 5: motherhood is preparation and you know, being ready and thinking
- 37:15Speaker 5: ahead to step into the next situation. And that's a
- 37:20Speaker 5: great way to do it. To Like, if you really
- 37:24Speaker 5: feel like your closet's a mess and you have nothing
- 37:26Speaker 5: to wear, you know, take out a handful of stuff
- 37:29Speaker 5: and just throw it on the bed and then you'll
- 37:33Speaker 5: start to see in the pile combinations of things that
- 37:36Speaker 5: you hadn't thought of before, Like you know, different colors
- 37:40Speaker 5: and patterns will just suddenly like lay on top of
- 37:43Speaker 5: each other. It's almost like making a quilt exactly. And
- 37:47Speaker 5: then when you pull out your favorite things, then hang
- 37:52Speaker 5: them up, like take make a little section and hang
- 37:54Speaker 5: them up, and hang them up like they would be
- 37:56Speaker 5: hung up in a store, right so that you can
- 37:58Speaker 5: see like six things and then just and then just
- 38:03Speaker 5: start to play with them and try them on and
- 38:06Speaker 5: put them together. And you know, one of the things
- 38:09Speaker 5: that I always say, if you have some time and
- 38:12Speaker 5: your home and you know, maybe like you know, you
- 38:17Speaker 5: just you just need to get your head straight a
- 38:20Speaker 5: little bit. It's it's a nice little meditative exercise to
- 38:23Speaker 5: just play with color and shape.
- 38:25Speaker 2: Like I found another trick.
- 38:27Speaker 5: To buy your clothes one size up.
- 38:32Speaker 3: Oh, she's writing again, because they're always going to feel
- 38:38Speaker 3: good on you, and you know you'll have some room.
- 38:43Speaker 3: I mean except jeans, right, Veronica, I mean we buy
- 38:45Speaker 3: jeans too big and then right.
- 38:50Speaker 5: A right, you know of course, like you know you
- 38:53Speaker 5: need maybe maybe one or two pair of snug jeans,
- 38:57Speaker 5: but you know, having having things are one size up,
- 39:01Speaker 5: you'd be surprised that, Like how often people are going
- 39:03Speaker 5: to ask you whether or not you're on ozembic.
- 39:05Speaker 2: Oh oh okay, great, see you guys.
- 39:08Speaker 1: See that's great advice. I love that. Well, thank you
- 39:13Speaker 1: so much, Veronica. This has been amazing, as we say
- 39:16Speaker 1: here on the Mom's Club, tell everybody where they can
- 39:18Speaker 1: find you on social media and your substacks and substack here.
- 39:22Speaker 5: Yeah, so my substack is hote mess kind of like
- 39:25Speaker 5: oh couture. So it's h A U T E M
- 39:29Speaker 5: E S s at substack dot com. And then I'm
- 39:33Speaker 5: at Veronica web with that's web with two b's on Instagram.
- 39:37Speaker 1: Well great, and I highly recommend both. I've been following
- 39:41Speaker 1: you on Instagram and I learned so much and I
- 39:43Speaker 1: just love I loved it.
- 39:45Speaker 3: We didn't even get to the adult relationship motherhood Stuffy.
- 39:49Speaker 1: Part two of ours y Yeah Mom's Club with Veronica
- 39:53Speaker 1: Web Yes, well, thank you so much. Well, moms you
- 39:57Speaker 1: can find us. Oh, thank you, zuber moms. We would
- 40:00Speaker 1: be remiss if we didn't thank you, ladies. Thank you
- 40:02Speaker 1: so much for joining us. You have been amazing And hey,
- 40:07Speaker 1: mom's out there. If you want to be a zoomer
- 40:10Speaker 1: mom like these moms have been today, you can go
- 40:13Speaker 1: on our website inside Themomsclub dot com enter to be
- 40:16Speaker 1: a zoomer mom. If you know, I bet each one
- 40:19Speaker 1: of you know five of your friends who would be amazing.
- 40:23Speaker 1: Even if you feel a little shy you're not into it,
- 40:25Speaker 1: I bet you know some people who love to talk
- 40:28Speaker 1: and ask questions and aren't that part of the show interesting?
- 40:31Speaker 1: It's fun too. Yeah, you would absolutely, you would absolutely
- 40:35Speaker 1: love it, So please please become a zoomer mom like
- 40:39Speaker 1: these ladies. Well, you can find us on Instagram, Facebook
- 40:44Speaker 1: to talk, YouTube at Inside the Mom's Club, and on
- 40:47Speaker 1: our website We would also like to thank our sponsors
- 40:51Speaker 1: New Calm, which we love. New Calm. We can't say
- 40:54Speaker 1: have enough nice things about it. Favorite it's an app
- 40:57Speaker 1: that helps you sleep better, focus, it's all based on
- 41:01Speaker 1: science brings. Then it keeps both of us in because
- 41:05Speaker 1: we have to share a room when we're here in
- 41:07Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Sometimes we've had to share.
- 41:09Speaker 1: It and they can bed. Yeah, that was that one time.
- 41:12Speaker 1: That's too well. And like last night, you know, I
- 41:15Speaker 1: crashed a bottle of something on the floor and she
- 41:17Speaker 1: didn't wake up. But because we had New Calm in
- 41:20Speaker 1: the background, that kept us sound asleep. And we would
- 41:23Speaker 1: also like to thank our sponsor, Beverly Hills Lingerie. They
- 41:27Speaker 1: have been amazing, as we say here, they have been
- 41:31Speaker 1: a contributed to our events that we have around the country.
- 41:35Speaker 1: So we have cocktail hours and parties for moms across America.
- 41:41Speaker 1: They get together, they get to meet other moms and
- 41:44Speaker 1: local people in the community actually actually contribute like Beverly
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- 41:51Speaker 1: you go to these events, so be looking for them
- 41:53Speaker 1: in your community. Well, thank you so much, Julie. Once again,
- 41:57Speaker 1: these it just goes by so fast. Like you said,
- 42:00Speaker 1: we didn't even cover everything.
- 42:00Speaker 5: But I have a whole bunch of notes.
- 42:02Speaker 1: Yeah, but next time. We will be back, next time
- 42:07Speaker 1: with celebrities and extraordinary moms just like you. We know
- 42:11Speaker 1: your mea time is precious and valuable. Thank you moms
- 42:14Speaker 1: out there for sharing with us. We will see you
- 42:16Speaker 1: next time inside the Mom's Club. Whoo.