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6 Things To Know About Michigan's NCAA Notice Of Allegations · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Welcome to Buckeyes tomorrow morning for Friday, December twenty second. I'm your host,
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  Tom Moore. The Cotton Bowl game against Missouri is in seven days,
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  one week from today. That doesn't seem possible. The game against Michigan in
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  three hundred and forty four days. Before we get into the meat of today's
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  show, did want to kind of just give you a little update on something
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  that we talked about on yesterday show, which was Jeremiah Smith the number one
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  player overall in the class of twenty twenty four. His letter of intent was
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  not in at the time we recorded. His letter of intent was not in
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  for a number of hours. After that, feelings were had, posts were
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  made on many a message board, and then Jeremiah Smith did in fact send
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  in his letter of intent, so we'll have State does in fact have the
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  number one player for the class of twenty twenty four, five five star prospects,
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  all the stuff that we had sort of projected on yesterday's show has in
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  fact come to fruition. So okay, that's all done. Now onto the
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  topic today's show. This is something else that happened on Wednesday that kind of
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  slid under the radar in a way that it probably would not have on most
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  other days. The un NCAA issued its notice of allegations to the University of
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  Michigan football program for alleged Level two violations that eventually led to a level one
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  allegation, Level one being the most serious. We're going to get into all
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  what all this means, what it doesn't mean, when things might happen,
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  because this is obviously a story that we've been covering quite a bit over the
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  last year. Tony Kurdaman a Fuckaheadtle dot com joins me, Tony, I
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  guess let's start with what this is not. None of this has to do
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  at all with the Connor Stallions thing, any fallout from the Connor Stallions thing,
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  and he related things with you know, elements to the Connor Stallion story.
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  This is all related to stuff that happened a little while ago. This
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  is the stuff you've sort of seen shorthanded as buying a recruit a hamburger,
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  which is I mean sort of adjacent to the truth, but really doesn't tell
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  the whole story. Well, and the NCAA is certainly gonna really get involved
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  with something as simple as buying a hamburger for a recruit. Now, this
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  is something that has been going on since the COVID times and is not the
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  story that has been occupying a bunch of people's lives with the counter stallions things.
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  So that will eventually get settled, and you know they're trying to speed
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  it along to make sure it doesn't take maybe as long as this one has.
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  But yeah, when the news came out on Wednesday, it was like,
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  well, which which one is it? And of course it is the
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  one that is still first in line. There's a little bit of a backup
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  with all of Michigan's NCAA infractions, so this is the this is still the
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  first one. Yes, the which major investigation? Which major INCA infraction case
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  are we talking about here? Is never a phrase you want to be asking
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  about your program, But that's where Michigan is right now. So let's just
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  kind of touch on, first of all, what we're talking about here,
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  level two violations level one violations. I'm guessing people don't really, off the
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  top of their heads know the difference, So you can sort of just sort
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  of lay out what we're talking about here in terms of level two violations,
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  what they're being accused of, and then what the difference between that and the
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  level one violation. Yeah, Level two is misdemeanor stuff as opposed to level
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  one felony type things, just you know, incidental things, stuff that can
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  be kind of like washed away with a class or a book report type of
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  punishment, you know, those sorts of things. And the level one comes
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  from that's a little bit more serious. And the level one that comes from
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  this is allegedly Jim Harbaugh lying and misleading to misleading investigators regarding some of those
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  level two violations. And generally the level two violations aren't things you need to
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  lie about, but the NCAA believes they've been lied to regarding these violations in
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  terms of watching workouts via zoom, which was a no no back during the
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  COVID restrictions, talking visiting with recruits in person during COVID was a no no.
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  And that there's some allegations there as well, So things like that were
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  those are the level two violations, and then the allegations are that Jim Harball
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  lied about those violations, which have led to some a level one allegation there,
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  which is a more serious charge and which brings with it suspensions, and
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  which is also something that Jim Harbaugh is well aware of NOE. Yeah,
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  and a Level one violation can lead to a suspension of up to six games.
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  This is the case that Michigan's self imposed a three game suspension for Harbaugh
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  at the beginning of the season. So Harbaugh has already served three games.
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  They could potentially tack on up to an additional three games for that Level one
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  violation. The NCAA could whenever that happens, we'll get to the timetable on
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  that in a little but one thing that is a little bit ironic is a
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  little bit of an ironic subtext to all of this. If you remember the
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  Hang one hundred comment from Ryan Day during COVID, the origin of that was
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  an allegation that Ohio State from Michigan, an allegation that Ohio State had been
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  violating COVID rules based on a video or photo of something, and like a
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  coach was in a spot where Jim Harbaugh didn't feel that he should be during
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  the whole thing. So a little ironic that Michigan has caught up in all
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  of this now and the nc double A has, you know, sort of
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  taken exception to the idea that this is just about buying a recruit to Hamburger,
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  which is sort of the story that's getting spun out of a lot of
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  places. This is back in August, the nc DOUBLEA issued a statement sort
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  of explaining that no, this was not about Hamburger's. It was the quote
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  was quote, the Michigan infraction case is related to impermissible and on and off
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  campus recruiting during the COVID nineteen dead period and in permissible coaching activities, not
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  a cheeseburger. That was from Derrek Crawford, the NCAA vice President of Hearing
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  Operations. So you know, the NCAA is sort of aware that this is
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  getting you know, they're sort of getting treated like they're idiots, were making
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  this about a Hamburger and saying like, no, this is not in fact
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  about a hamburger, even if it was on a Friday, even if it
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  was during LENS. No, that is not That is not what you're being
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  punished for or being investigated for. It's for a bunch of other stuff.
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  So the timetable on all of this, you know, this is we're talking
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  we're looking back at the COVID dead period. The COVID dead period has been
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  gone for a couple of years. Now that was that ended, I believe
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  in what middle of twenty twenty one, give or take. I mean,
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  it has been quite a while. So what's the timetable on all of this
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  in terms of, you know, the investigation itself has dragged on, has
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  and has you know, been extended a couple times for various reasons. Moving
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  forward, what's the timetable on this? When can we expect Michigan to answer,
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  the NCAA to answer hearings, decisions, all that kind of stuff.
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  What is the timetable looking at right now? Yeah, So once Michigan received
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  their notice of allegations, they then have ninety days to respond. Now could
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  they do it before then? Sure? Will they? I they don't seem
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  to have been be the kind that is trying to run through these allegations and
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  get things settled as quickly as possible. So we'll have ninety days to respond.
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  Then the NCAA has sixty days to respond. There, so you're looking
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  at a five month timeframe from now before the NCAA responds and then there's a
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  hearing and the Committee on Infractions. So we're luck we're talking you know,
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  six seven, eight months before any kind of anything is handed down, and
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  then there is some time before that maybe even be released, and then that
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  can be appealed, which could drag this out another six next months. So
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  I mean, it could be we could be talking fourteen months from now.
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  We could be talking, you know, seven months from now as to when
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  we'll know exactly what Michigan is doing or having, what their sanctions will be.
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  Who you know, well, head coach will be punished at that point.
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  Who knows? And one thing that I think had people really annoyed when
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  this came out on Wednesday. It was reported by angeliue Chinjellus of the Detroit
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  News, and people were very annoyed that this came out on early signing day.
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  Now, this came out in the afternoon on early signing day, after
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  the Michigan class was already you know that the Hay was largely in the barn
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  with the Michigan class at that point. And I think, you know,
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  it was interesting that it later came out that the NCAA had given this to
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  Michigan a couple of days earlier. They got it on Monday, and then
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  it didn't come out until after the class was largely or pretty much entirely signed
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  on Wednesday, So you know, in a way, I think the timing.
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  You know, first of all, I want to do some criminal cremlinology
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  on who's likely leaking the report to a local Michigan reporter versus you know,
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  who the NC double A would be leaking it to. Tony. Would you
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  like to do that bit of kremlinology just to sort of explain how these things
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  work. Well, I'm like the NCAA. I am also extremely online and
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  I read a lot of Michigan Board, so I believe it was Brian Day
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  who alerted the Michigan Beat reporter about the notice of allegations time. Is that
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  correct? Am I writing that assumption? Well, I've seen a lot of
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  speculation about Ryan Day and his relative, you know, relatives and what have
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  you, so certainly you know one of them almost undoubtedly involved. It's here's
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  how this works. If it gets leaked to a Michigan Beat reporter, it's
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  not coming from the NC double A. It's not coming from Ryan Day.
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  It's not coming from you know, I don't know the neutron man like.
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  It's no coming it's coming from It's coming from someone within the Michigan program.
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  Almost certainly the fact that it was time to come out on the afternoon after
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  everyone was signed. The hay is in the barn at that point, as
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  I said, so then it is less likely to do use any sort of
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  damage. And the timetable we're talking about, who knows, this is not
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  the big one. This is not the one that's the potential, you know,
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  Adam boum here in terms of a in terms of a case, what
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  it could open Michigan up to is you get into lack of institutional control things.
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  You've got multiple major infractions cases going on at the same time, and
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  the notice of allegations on the counter stallion stuff is not out yet, but
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  when it does, then they will have multiple you know, assuming that there
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  is a case made and a major infractions case made out of it, and
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  it certainly seems like things are trending that way, then you will have multiple
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  you know, major infractions case come going at the same time. And if
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  this one isn't going to be done until potentially with appeals, until at least
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  late next football season or even the one after that, and then the other
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  one is going to be coming out at some point, and whether that's two
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  months from now, or six months from now or a year from now.
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  That's going to be hanging over Michigan's heads as well for a while. So
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  you know, I don't think you're necessarily going to see immediate crippling punishments,
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  you know, before Saint Patrick's Day, but this is going to be something
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  that's going to be hanging over that program for quite a while. And you
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  know you've sort of seen Jim harball or already kind of maybe having a wandering
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  eye towards the NFL yet again. Well, and if he is back next
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  year, I won't be surprised if he misses the first three games next year
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  as well, just like he did this year, because there is still They
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  had sort of agreed to a four game suspension, then the NCAA backed away
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  from that to start the season because they want I think they thought there's more
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  meat on that suspension bone. So they still want more from Jim Harbaugh,
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  and I think they plan to get it. It's just a matter of will
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  everything be resolved in time, or will Michigan do what they did last time.
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  Imposed maybe they will self impose another three game suspension for Jim Harbaugh based
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  on the findings and their thoughts. But you know, this may also be
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  a moot thought exercise based on the offseason that Jim Harbaugh has every year in
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  terms of, as you said, looking to the NFL. So we'll see
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  what what what happens there. We talk about it every year and every year
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  he shows back up at Michigan. I don't think he's ever had anything like
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  this hanging over him though, so maybe more now more than ever, he
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  there is incentive for him to finally leave. Yeah, well we'll see.
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  This is in you know, Jim Harball. This self imposed three game suspension
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  this year covered three games against Who East Carolina UNLV and Bowling Green. I
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  think the second team on Michigan schedule for next year is Texas Longhorn coming to
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  an arbor week number two, So it would be a more substantial game to
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  self impose something for. So they may just try and rine out. But
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  we'll see. And maybe he's coaching the San Diego Chargers and it's not his
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  problem or largely not his problem. But we'll continue to follow this story.
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  I just thought this was worth a quick update just to sort of separate the
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  fact from the fiction. And you know that, Hey, this is the
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  hammer is going to fall and he's not to be able to coach the Rose
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  Bowl. No, that's not at all what we're talking about here. I
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  know this does not involve any of the Connors Stallion stuff. That is all
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  still to come, but we'll just wanted to give you an update on all
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  this stuff and Michigan of course playing Alabama in the Rose Bowl on New Year's
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  Day in one of the College Football Playoffs semi finals. That'll be a game
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  rich with narrative I suspect, and then depending on how that goes, it's
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  either going to be a great start to the twenty twenty four year for Michigan
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  or a very very rough start with more choppy seas potentially ahead. So we
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  will keep following this story. We'll keep following the Buckeyes as they are now
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  one week away from the Cotton Bowl game against Missouri. Early signing day now
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  in the rearview mirror, could be another addition or two to the twenty twenty
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  four recruiting for the Buckeyes, and of course looking at the transfer portal as
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