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The Ancient Principles Horses Already Understand with Justin Dunn | Episode 44 · The Touch of a Mustang

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  When you surround yourself with those type individuals, you
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  start vibrating at their frequency and that's a beautiful
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  thing. So it's like you want to start
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  thinking in a way, you're going to start attracting different
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  people. You start thinking higher,
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  you're going to attract higher. You start thinking in a way for
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  your horse. You're going to start attracting
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  that for your horse. Because remember, you attract
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  what you become. That's it.
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  There are healers on this planet with the power to soften the
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  suffering of mankind if they have remained in the recesses of
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  the world, abused, discarded and labeled as trash.
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  This is the touch of a Mustang. I am your host, Shalise Clough,
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  and I'm here to tell the story of wild horses, Mustangs, and
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  the humans who are discovering and sharing their gifts while
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  working to protect their well-being and preserve their
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  spirit so this divine power won't be lost.
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  Join us on this quest with the Wild Mustang.
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  Tell us what you've been up to and your trip and how all that
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  came about, all the all the stuff.
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  Okay, so not too long ago, it's cold day, my wife was out of
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  town. She went out of town and I'm
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  here at the farm and came in the office and got to thinking to
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  myself, you know, like, what does the world need?
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  What, what better things can we provide the world, especially in
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  horsemanship. And I, I got to thinking about,
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  you know, all the things that I've done to lead up to this
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  very moment, even this very moment, but to that very moment.
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  And I realized something was going on.
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  You know, I'd noticed that people had stopped being able to
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  imagine or visualize things. Like when we were kids, remember
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  how we could just visualize something and we'd go do it.
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  We knew what we wanted. And, you know, I want to go do
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  this. I'm going to go do that.
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  You know, I want to ride my bike over to my friend's house and
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  just jump on your bike and take off all of those things that we
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  had what to do? The horsemanship allows us to
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  kind of play with that again. It's like I imagine doing with
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  my horse and then have those thoughts make a decision or a
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  choice. And then, you know, if you
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  follow the sequence of things to make it happen.
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  So those sequence of things have a thought, make a decision, take
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  action, and then manifest it into reality.
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  So I'm sitting here in the office and I'm like, what can I
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  do to really immerse myself into it, the experience, to share it
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  with others? So I just wrote down on notebook
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  paper what I wanted. I wanted to go to an exotic
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  place. I wanted to take my bitless
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  bridal. I wanted to introduce myself to
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  a horse I'd never met. I want to create a relationship,
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  ask them to care of me and do some things, you know,
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  experience something new. And as I'm creating this, it
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  started to really get me enthusiastic about it.
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  So it's like a thought and then an emotion of enthusiasm, like,
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  Oh yeah, I can actually see this forming.
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  I can actually feel the plane taken off to take me to where
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  I'm going. I can actually feel the landing.
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  I can, I can see the ocean, I can see the mountains.
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  You know, I want to go do this. So I just got to thinking like,
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  where can I go? Where where is that place?
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  And then the US Virgin Islands came into my thought, yeah,
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  let's go check that out. So I started.
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  Had you been there before or anything, or what made you think
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  of that? No.
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  Well, I've been wanting to go there for a long time because I
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  went on a cruise and we were supposed to go there, but a
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  hurricane hit and they diverted us to the Cayman Islands.
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  So I was like, man, we're still kind of have this thought of
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  going to the Virgin Islands, but I always transmuted that thought
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  pretty quickly because I didn't think there'd be horses there.
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  I was like, I don't know if there's horses there.
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  So I just kind of let it pass. But when I started really
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  getting serious about this thought and then making a
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  decision of where to go, I did a quick Google search, you know,
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  horseback riding in in the Virgin Islands.
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  And the first one to pop up was in Saint Croix.
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  And I thought, well, I'm going to just shoot them an e-mail and
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  I'm going to write down everything that I have planned
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  and what's the worst that could happen, right?
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  They say no. Well, they responded back with
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  yes, yes, and yes. I thought they were excited.
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  Then I sat up. I sat up in my seat and I got
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  real serious. I'm like, I'm going to make this
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  happen. So I just started formulating a
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  plan. The purpose was to immerse
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  myself into an imagination or a visualization that I I had in
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  the next thing was to make a decision, yeah, I'm going to do
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  it. And then really drill down on on
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  focusing my intentions on on creating it and then taking
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  action to do it. You know, you got to essentially
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  buy a plane ticket, you know, scheduling all that.
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  So as a few correspondence with e-mail has started to really
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  transform and my idea of what I wanted to do became even better.
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  You know, the dates that I had planned to go didn't really
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  coincide with the dates that I actually went because they came
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  back with, hey, we're doing a leadership class for some middle
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  school students. Would you want to teach the
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  class the horsemanship? I said yes, of course I do.
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  But a Long story short, I flew out there and I taught a
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  leadership class to middle school kids through horsemanship
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  and what I teach here at American Mustang School.
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  And then we formed a idea of plan to come back and teach a
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  three day immersion, you know, a horsemanship adventure clinic.
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  So that's going to happen in June, June 10th, 11th and 12th.
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  If anybody's interested, go to my website, sign up, meet me
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  there. That's.
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  Amazing. There's lots of videos and
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  things on your on all your places to kind of check it out.
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  Yeah. And thank you for your help on
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  it too. But the, the beautiful thing
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  about this is it's, it's something that's accessible now
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  because for, for about 3 1/2 years, I had to kind of keep
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  what I was doing quiet. And now I can actually talk
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  about it. I was teaching life coaching
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  through horsemanship, you know, the sacred art of horsemanship
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  to special operations forces in the military.
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  And that's, that's quiet. You can't publicize any of that.
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  A lot of these guys, they don't even exist.
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  So just touching on that. It's, it's transferred into, OK,
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  now I'm going to start doing more for the public and sharing
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  this on AI hope a global scale. So the first little test was go
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  out of the country, which is kind of not out of the country
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  still America, but it's it's like go out of the country and
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  take this. But what was really cool is
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  other people came that were one girl is from Italy.
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  So she came and got to learn American Mustang school
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  horsemanship and it was pretty cool.
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  And that kind of leads into what we can talk about in this
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  podcast, all of the neat things that have been transpiring
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  through teaching the sacred art of horsemanship.
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  Yeah, I think it's cool. One thing that stood out to me
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  is like, you had this thought and then you wrote it down.
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  I think, you know, we have all these thoughts go through our
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  mind and it's interesting the ones that materialize because of
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  how we react to them. And kind of like what you said,
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  what we imagine is possible versus, I mean, how are you
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  going to do that? So to go from a thought to
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  reality, it's cool. Yeah, and that's horsemanship is
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  the best accountability partner that I've ever had in creating,
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  you know, myself, an understanding and awareness in
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  myself and then seeing it through like on a microcosm or a
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  daily practice. So horsemanship has changed so
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  much for me since the day I started actually like a daily
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  reset ritual that I go through. And we talked about seasons, you
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  know, cycles I teach, I teach some really cool stuff in, in
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  horsemanship and hermetic principles touched on this with
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  you in the past. But you know, those hermetic
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  principles are really, really interesting because they spill
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  over into every area of our life.
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  So in teaching or understanding that you can look at how things
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  correspond, which how they work together.
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  And it's, it's almost like this, the horse is exactly like us in
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  every way except one that I've found so far.
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  And that's our ability to visualize and imagine
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  possibilities or opportunities to learn and grow, which
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  essentially brings us back to the horse because it's you got
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  to kind of imagine a guy was sitting there watching a horse
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  walk across the field one day and said, man, I imagine myself
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  riding on a horse. Well, our imagination is what
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  brings us into relationship with the horse.
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  And then it's limitless at that point.
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  But you look at things that you know, what is limitation?
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  Limitation is form. You know, my, this body, I have
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  the horse's body, that's a form and it's limited to that form.
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  Otherwise big giant horse just keeps growing and never stops.
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  Or a big giant person just keeps growing and never stops.
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  So there's limitation there. But as far as our mental and
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  spiritual plane of existence, there's, it's limitless.
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  We literally can think into existence.
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  So it's, it's like whatever we think about, we bring about.
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  Same with the horse, you know, I, I get into conversations with
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  people and they'll, they'll ask what's the benefit to the horse.
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  And that's the beauty of horsemanship.
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  A horse, especially our wild Mustang horses, they can stay
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  out on the pasture, on the, on the rangeland.
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  They can eat, they can poop, they can procreate, they can
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  play, they can vibrate at frequencies.
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  They can watch the sun come up, sun come down.
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  They can do all those things well, properly invitation into
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  the human element. They can gain a conscious
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  awareness that they wouldn't otherwise gain.
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  So that's the benefit. They can actually feel feelings
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  they hadn't felt, think thoughts they hadn't thought.
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  They can help people do it too, because it's, it's almost like
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  we're the same. We're just different class.
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  You know, we're a class of people.
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  They're a class of horse. But thoughts and emotions
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  transfer back and forth, attitude and action transfers
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  back and forth. So we're essentially the same.
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  The only difference is that imagination piece that I've
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  found so far. But that's the actual thing that
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  brings us together. So it's it's not a separation,
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  it's just an awareness of imagine it, think it, do it
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  become form habits, create a character.
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  So if we have a wild Mustang horse that's been labeled
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  untrainable, you know, we can actually use these principles
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  and understandings to align ourselves present to the horse
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  correctly to where they can understand and align into a
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  character that we imagine. So it's really cool if I think
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  calm, quiet thinking thoughts and I present that to my horse,
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  of course they're going to have calm, quiet thinking thoughts.
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  Well, if they're creating a habit of that, they're forming a
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  character of that. So that's one little aspect,
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  forces we get to go inward of ourselves, present outward to
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  them. They're mirroring back to us in
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  feedback, which causes a feedback loop to where we can
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  make subtle or obvious changes in ourselves and our thoughts
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  and our emotions and our attitude, Attitude, meaning,
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  posture, how we posture and interactions and then observe
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  feedback, make changes, do it again, get into a feedback loop.
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  And that's in a microcosm. So we start connecting our
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  thoughts and emotions and our actions.
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  They do it too. So that's what I wanted to kind
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  of like drill down on and let people know like, hey,
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  horsemanship. It's not what you've been told.
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  It's not what traditional practices teach.
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  Horsemanship is a it's basically a daily reset ritual that you
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  can go in and recalibrate yourself and then get in
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  alignment to where you can attract what it is your desire
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  or imagine or visualize. So chasing a wild horse, what is
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  that going to get us? They're just going to chase
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  we're. Going to run pretty tired.
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  Yeah, it's called energy conservation.
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  You will run out of energy because they can outrun you.
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  They run so fast. So what do we have to do?
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  We have to attract on to us. How do we do that?
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  We start aligning ourselves to become attractive and it's like
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  that in anything. If we talk about 5 main areas of
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  our lives, we've got health. You start attracting health, you
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  don't go chase it. Start making decisions, have a
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  thought, make a decision or a choice, take action, eat the
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  right stuff and then your future is changed.
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  By doing that. You become healthy or unhealthy.
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  Pretty simple. Go into wealth, finances, same
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  thing. Go into happiness.
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  What do you find joy in? What do you not find joy in?
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  There's your happiness and you go into relationships.
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  And it's in this order is pretty important because forming a
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  relationship with a horse, you pretty much got to have your
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  stuff in alignment, like your health, I mean your wealth and
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  your happiness. Because nobody's going to want
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  to join up with you if you don't have those three things in
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  order, then the relationship can form.
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  And then you go into spirituality.
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  And that's a really, really beautiful piece there.
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  But those 5 main areas, most people haven't even identified
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  those areas. And they're taking all this
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  entropy or chaos disorder to the horse and asking them fix me.
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  And it's like, well wait, you've got to go inward and find out
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  some information about yourself first, which the horse can.
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  Help with for sure. And then, and then make these
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  subtle necessary changes each day.
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  And then over the time you can create whatever it is you
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  imagine. It's a pretty cool process.
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  And it's a system. It's an interactive system.
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  We've talked about that before. But a person, they kind of have
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  to have an understanding of these principles, these 7
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  hermetic principles. And I've been teaching those in
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  my coaching and I can run them. Tell us, what do you mean
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  exactly when you say hermetic? Well, Hermetic is sealed.
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  It's like information that's available or it's not that it's
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  a secret, it's just that not everybody knows about it.
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  It's sealed and they have to be discovered.
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  It's like what a horse possesses inside there.
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  There you got information inside that they'll reveal to you if
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  you ask for it correctly. It's not taken, it's not forced.
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  It's revealed. You know when the student's
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  ready, the master appears. So when the student of the horse
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  is ready, which will reveal information.
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  Hermetic principles are that that way too.
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  The very first one is says the universe, or they all is mind.
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  The universe is mental. What that really means is what
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  you think about you bring about. That's super true.
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  And that that is so. True.
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  We definitely create our rules. By the way.
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  We either see it with limits, which I would say is probably
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  more common, or whether we see it limitless, or maybe a little
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  bit of both, you know? That's right, because you know
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  the, as we go through these principles, it'll start to paint
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  a really easy to see picture. So you go into the second one,
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  it's correspondence. And that's basically how things
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  work together. And as above, so below, as
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  within, so without. So if we look at something
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  simple as as above, so below in the macro, we've got the solar
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  system and planets. The same energy that formed
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  those is the same energy that formed the atoms in our body.
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  And they mimic each other. They do a lot of the same
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  things. And without sidestepping off too
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  deep into that, you look at what you think and you feel as above,
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  so below as within what you're thinking as without.
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  So what a horse thinks he presents in non verbal
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  communication of action, he actually presents it in
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  attitude, which is a posture. Horse can communicate non
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  verbally in just a simple posture to another horse and
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  it's well received, no big deal. I mean I have eight horses that
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  communicate all the time with subtle little gestures of just a
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  simple posture change. So do humans.
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  There's information oozing out a human.
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  We just ignore a lot of. Verbally, yeah.
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  Well, I mean, I taught a class this morning and a soldier was
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  playing with one of my horses and as it's unfolding, I'm
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  explaining like he's telling us so much information off of his
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  nonverbal communication, something simple as a tension
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  release in the mouth. Most horse people would
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  understand what that is, but there's so many more.
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  I mean, when we understand this, this next one that I'll.
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  Or some of these next principles that I'll talk about rhythm,
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  it's like a horse will breathe in a certain rhythm, then the
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  human gets involved, the breathing rhythm changes.
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  And then if a person is not aware of that, they're kind of
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  at a disadvantage. If they become aware of that,
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  they'll notice their own breathing, then they'll notice
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  the horses breathing. Then they can trigger body
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  responses through action to change an internal breathing,
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  which the brain monitors body system.
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  And then you see this other feedback loop form and then it's
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  not linear. So then there's another one,
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  your heart rate, it's, it's vibrational frequency, that's
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  another hermetic principle, heart rate beating at a certain
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  beat per minute, horse can hear your heart rate 3 to 4 feet
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  away, especially when you're on your back.
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  So all of this information is transferring in these energies.
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  So whenever a person learns these principles and they live
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  in accordance with them, they're the principles that govern
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  nature, the heavens and the earth, as above, so below.
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  The horse abides in those. So if we're going to develop a
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  clear cut relationship, we have to know them, we have to abide
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  in them too and attract the horse to us because he feels it,
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  he understands it, he lives in it and he realizes, wow, you're
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  coming into this understanding much deeper and wider than
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  traditional training practices would teach.
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  So we'll go to the third Hermetic principle, which is
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  vibration. And that's kind of what we were
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  talking about. And I'm not so sure that these
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  are necessarily need to be understood in order, but it's,
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  it's probably a good thing to look at them in order.
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  And if I get them out of order, sorry.
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  That's all right. I don't.
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  I don't know. I might have to look them up,
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  you know? Yeah, I encourage everybody to
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  look them up. It's valuable, you know.
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  And then we, we look at vibration and everything's in
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  motion and a horse is standing there vibrating.
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  We are vibrating those that are energies.
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  And if we think in energy and vibration and frequency, we can
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  really understand horsemanship on a deeper, wider level.
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  Because if I'm vibrating at A at a certain level and then I, I'm
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  not aware of it and I go get in the presence of a horse.
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  And they were giving me feedback that doesn't make any sense.
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  I can actually go inward, change my thoughts, my emotions, my
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  attitude, my action present again and observe an instant
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  change in the horse through feedback and then watch prints
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  repeat that. We have a feedback loop and we
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  understand polarity degrees of something.
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  And the best way to understand that's kind of like contrast.
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  Or you look at different classes of things like temperature, hot
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  and cold, the same exact thing, just different degrees.
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  That's what nature is. So in like vibration, if a
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  person's happy or angry, it's the same thing.
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  It's just different degree, same energy.
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  I mean, I've done things out of anger and got a productive
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  result. I've done things out of
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  happiness and done things and got a productive result.
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  And you can look at that as like, wow, that's energy.
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  It's still the same thing. How we use it is controlling it.
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  So in horsemanship, a person aware of their energies, their
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  vibrational frequencies and what they're presenting and observing
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  and making changes and doing it again, they can create this
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  harmony and energy transfer. And it's the unseen and a lot of
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  times, and I heard it explain like this the other day, energy,
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  you know, like a tornado, tornado, it's it's energy and
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  it's spinning, but you wouldn't see it unless it had like dirt
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  and dust in it. But it's still there.
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  So take all the dirt and dust out of it.
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  It's still happening. They're even saying that in our
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  atoms that happens. There's a tornado vortex that
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  happens on a cellular level. I don't know too much about
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  that, but I thought that was really interesting.
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  But the only way to see it is it's got to add color to it, you
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  know, to visually light frequency see it, but it's
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  there. So then they talk about
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  electromagnetic energy. Your heart's put off our brains
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  put off horses, people. There's electromagnetic energy
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  communicating unseen between person and human.
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  But see, there's no way to in the in the five senses like
• 19:15
  through eyes, see it has to be felt.
• 19:18
  There are receptors in the body, sensory receptors in our body to
• 19:22
  pick up on it. I mean it's we could make 50
• 19:25
  podcasts on all these different topics, but the horses are the
• 19:29
  best accountability partner for this understanding because a
• 19:32
  person can actually experience it through interaction with.
• 19:35
  Horse, it's interesting because I think a lot of it goes back to
• 19:39
  awareness and so much of it I think we're not aware of because
• 19:43
  we rely so heavily on what we can see with our eyes or what we
• 19:46
  can hear through our conversations.
• 19:48
  And we don't really, you kind of talked about like Phil, like
• 19:52
  your felt perception. We don't really talk about that
• 19:55
  or teach that at all. It's not really a part of our
• 19:58
  culture very much. Yeah.
• 20:00
  And that's that's where I'd go into spirituality, peace with
• 20:03
  horsemanship. So I call this sacred art of
• 20:06
  horsemanship because I think of it as a painting, you know, art
• 20:10
  and sacred being set apart. So set apart practice of self
• 20:14
  study, self discovery, self mastery with a horse as an
• 20:17
  accountability partner. So essentially the horse and I
• 20:21
  are painting a picture each time we're engaging and this picture
• 20:24
  starts to take form. It has limitations, but it's
• 20:27
  it's a form that I can start to see a picture.
• 20:30
  Well, maybe it's mental, but it's also physical.
• 20:32
  And we could go into that, but think of it in terms of you're
• 20:35
  creating a relationship with a horse to identify the unknowns.
• 20:39
  I'm going inward into myself. I observe me present to my
• 20:44
  horse, observe feedback from my horse, make necessary changes
• 20:48
  and do it again to create this feedback loop or this painting.
• 20:52
  And each time that we interact, brush strokes, more color, more
• 20:56
  visuals start to come into play where it's understood.
• 20:59
  So it's like, if I explain this to you over a podcast, you'll
• 21:02
  get a sense of it, but until you go actually do it, you wouldn't
• 21:05
  get an understanding. When the sense and understanding
• 21:08
  come together, you get the true essence of whatever it is you're
• 21:11
  doing. So in this case, horsemanship
• 21:13
  and discovering through an accountability partner, the
• 21:15
  horse, all these energies that I can control, thought, energy,
• 21:20
  emotional energy, physical. And then we go into spiritual.
• 21:24
  And what that means for, for me and for what I share in
• 21:27
  horsemanship is when you don't have the answers through the
• 21:31
  five senses, you don't have them.
• 21:33
  And you know, or actually you do know enough not to go outside of
• 21:36
  yourself to get the answers. You go within.
• 21:39
  And that's on that spiritual plane of existence to where you
• 21:42
  tap into collective consciousness where the
• 21:44
  information is stored and you pull it or attract it to you and
• 21:48
  then you get the answer. And then you start transitioning
• 21:51
  through three planes of existence that there's actually
• 21:54
  more, but we'll just focus on three, the physical plane, the
• 21:57
  mental plane, and then the spiritual plane.
• 22:00
  And when you can seamlessly transition through those three
• 22:02
  planes of existence, creating whatever it is you want to
• 22:05
  create, when you imagine and visualize and then create it
• 22:09
  into existence, that's how it works.
• 22:12
  All of the greatest inventors on our planet.
• 22:14
  The guy that thought the two guys riding a bicycle thought of
• 22:17
  an airplane 1903 they flew the first airplane.
• 22:20
  You know that was imagination visualization.
• 22:23
  And stuff that a lot of people didn't believe could be done,
• 22:26
  like in their reality, it wasn't a possibility.
• 22:28
  Yeah, yeah. And see, I've seen people do
• 22:30
  things with horses that a lot of people say that can't be done.
• 22:34
  And it's like, Oh yeah, it can be done.
• 22:36
  And then we go into those other planes of existence to where
• 22:39
  autistic children start talking in complete sentences.
• 22:43
  Can be done. Talk about people that are so
• 22:46
  depressed that they have nothing to live for and they're actually
• 22:49
  on the brink of taking themselves out.
• 22:51
  They get with a horse and then they transition. 180 don't live
• 22:56
  in that anymore. You know, that's unknown,
• 22:58
  unseen, not talked about. It's information that
• 23:01
  transferred energetically to change that person seen up, done
• 23:06
  with horses, The horse is labeled bad.
• 23:08
  He needs to go to the euthanization.
• 23:10
  And it's like no man. We can change his thoughts,
• 23:13
  change his actions with changes habits, change his character,
• 23:16
  but we have to imagine what his character could be to present
• 23:19
  something worthy of him to be. So it's a matter of going inward
• 23:24
  and understanding how much power a person actually can wield, and
• 23:29
  going through these Hermetic principles will explain how
• 23:31
  it's. Yeah, And I think the key you
• 23:33
  said is you talked a lot about like subtle changes and also
• 23:37
  every day. I think those two things, a lot
• 23:39
  of times we want to take a big leap.
• 23:42
  And like I just posted a story on my Instagram.
• 23:45
  Whereas a ladder with, you know, steps that you go up the ladder
• 23:48
  compared to ladder where it's like these huge gaps that you
• 23:50
  can't, you can't get from one to the next.
• 23:52
  But, but we kind of, and especially in our culture where
• 23:56
  we get a lot of things really quickly without very much
• 23:59
  effort. I think we focus a lot on these
• 24:01
  big jumps and not so much on the subtle, tiny, everyday
• 24:07
  repetitive choices that we make that are actually creating this
• 24:11
  outcome. And we kind of think I want an
• 24:14
  instant fix or I want this huge change in my life, not realizing
• 24:18
  it comes so small, like such small steps.
• 24:22
  Yeah, there's validity to that. The most unique characteristic
• 24:25
  in a human that I've discovered and coaching people is
• 24:28
  consistency. And when a person can be
• 24:31
  consistent, doesn't have to be perfect.
• 24:33
  And that's the beauty of horsemanship.
• 24:34
  A lot of people want it perfect. And I, I coach them like, no,
• 24:38
  it's never perfect. It's actually beautiful because
• 24:40
  it's an imperfection. And and that's consistency we're
• 24:43
  after. So it's being constantly willing
• 24:46
  to change, be consistent, and not fall into a routine that
• 24:50
  traps us, that that creates a habit of artificial barriers.
• 24:54
  We have a lot of probably. Yeah, we can rise above that and
• 24:58
  see it from a, from a whole different plane of existence.
• 25:02
  Like when you rise up from the physical plane into the mental
• 25:04
  plane, it's limitless. There's there's really no form
• 25:08
  to it. And then you come and bring it
• 25:09
  into the physical, it starts to have form.
• 25:11
  That's what the limitations are. But then you commit into the
• 25:15
  spiritual plane and then you exceed the physical plane in a
• 25:18
  lot of ways of what the initial thought was.
• 25:22
  You can. So in other words, you can look
• 25:24
  at one thing from 360° of perspective.
• 25:27
  However, if we don't practice moving off of a certain
• 25:30
  perspective, will never get a different perception.
• 25:33
  So you got one thing, there's 360° around that one thing to
• 25:38
  look from. You know, it's like I come from
• 25:41
  this perspective and then it's like, well, I don't see an
• 25:43
  answer. Well, let me jump over to the
• 25:45
  shadow side of that and look at it from the other direction and
• 25:49
  it's like clear as day. Or maybe it's just a little
• 25:51
  micro shift of 1° and then keep looking at it and then it starts
• 25:56
  to become clear. So people, they get into a
• 25:59
  routine sometimes and that is going to inhibit growth and
• 26:04
  they're, if they're unaware of it.
• 26:06
  So subconsciously they're doing something daily.
• 26:08
  That template keeps transferring to the next day to the next day,
• 26:12
  to the next day until they start going inward like this with a
• 26:15
  horse, practicing, practicing what they want to do, which is
• 26:19
  have the ability to control energies and change reality.
• 26:23
  And that was the point that I was trying to make when we first
• 26:26
  started. I teach this and I was like, you
• 26:28
  know what, I got to go, I got to go immerse myself into this and
• 26:31
  like really get a deeper understanding of this because
• 26:34
  I've done this a lot. You know, I manifested a house
• 26:37
  on vacant land into a reality, but I didn't know then what I
• 26:41
  know now. So, so I had to fumble a lot and
• 26:44
  I had to go through frustrations and I had to go through and
• 26:47
  which is good. Not not saying that anybody that
• 26:50
  tries anything is not going to struggle, but in life coaching
• 26:53
  people, I've learned how to show them not to make the same
• 26:56
  mistakes to where what took me 10 years, take them two years.
• 27:00
  You know, it's like, yeah, there's definitely knowing about
• 27:04
  something when you jump into doing it, you actually know it.
• 27:07
  And it's much quicker, it's more efficient, it's more effective.
• 27:10
  So I went out to the Virgin Islands to like, because you
• 27:13
  said, you know, sometimes people don't realize it takes a lot of
• 27:16
  time and it can't be a snap of a finger.
• 27:18
  And I I was like, yeah, there's validity to that.
• 27:20
  However, if you're in total alignment, you can't snap your
• 27:24
  finger and it can happen quick. So the very first thought of
• 27:27
  going to do that to the time I did it was like 2 to 3 weeks.
• 27:31
  And it's fast and it's like, OK, and how did the stars align to
• 27:34
  make it all work? It's energy.
• 27:36
  It's people vibrating at the same frequency you are to come
• 27:41
  together to create. Do you think so that was like an
• 27:46
  accumulation of a lot of little steps leading up to it.
• 27:49
  Absolutely. So it's almost like, you know,
• 27:51
  we can make these little steps and then as we get to a
• 27:54
  different point, we start to maybe see all the results come
• 27:57
  really quickly as we've aligned our life.
• 28:01
  Yeah, it's like overnight success is most of the ones that
• 28:04
  I know they say, yeah, it took me 30 years to get an overnight
• 28:06
  success. Took me 15 years to get an
• 28:09
  overnight success. I, I think that this way, my
• 28:12
  scenario, I guess we call it my experience, I'm a complex
• 28:16
  person, so I'm always doing a bunch of different things at
• 28:18
  once. And it's like the accumulation
• 28:22
  thing. Yeah, I, I invested 2 decades in
• 28:26
  horsemanship, but also did 2 decades and, you know, investing
• 28:31
  and, and finance. And then I, I invested 2 decades
• 28:34
  in learning how to build homes and creating a farm and then
• 28:38
  invested, you know, it's so it's all these little coming
• 28:40
  togethers, so to speak to where there's, there's one day it's
• 28:44
  like this explosion where you realize, my gosh, man, the mind
• 28:47
  is so powerful. And then what is the purpose?
• 28:50
  What is our purpose to come to this planet?
• 28:52
  I'll speak for myself. I start to realize, well, my
• 28:55
  purpose is to take anything that is in disorder and put it in
• 28:59
  order and then within myself and then anything that I have access
• 29:04
  to. And then the most successful
• 29:05
  people that I look at, that's what they do, and they continue
• 29:08
  to do it, and they do it again in any area of their life and
• 29:11
  their health and their wealth and their happiness and their
• 29:15
  relationships and their spirituality.
• 29:17
  And it's like, oh, man, this, this gets real.
• 29:19
  And then when you come across information, like when the
• 29:22
  students ready, the master appears, Yeah, that that's a
• 29:25
  real thing. And I've found the horses that
• 29:28
  that's a prime example. I would like to know how many
• 29:31
  horses I've gotten to the pleasure to play with, but if I
• 29:34
  had to guess, we're way up into the thousands.
• 29:37
  And then I look back on those experiences and realize, Oh my
• 29:40
  gosh, I wouldn't have been ready for this particular horse had I
• 29:43
  not had all those particular horses.
• 29:45
  And then I wouldn't have been ready for that horse way back
• 29:47
  then. But each one prepared me for the
• 29:50
  next, and this particular one prepared me for this particular
• 29:53
  1. So it's like when the students
• 29:54
  ready, the master appears scenario and then you realize,
• 29:57
  oh, wow, this, this is deep and wide.
• 30:00
  Then these Romanic principles show up one day and it's kind of
• 30:03
  quite interesting story. I wanted to try to relay to
• 30:07
  people what I'm experiencing, you know, and when I lived in
• 30:09
  Colorado in the mountains, eight years without a cell phone,
• 30:12
  taking thousands of people trail riding on on my own horses,
• 30:16
  discovering in through experience these principles that
• 30:19
  I'm Speaking of today and coaching.
• 30:21
  So it's like the transition from the actual student of the horse
• 30:26
  in nature. Now, how do I bring all that
• 30:28
  into the human element and explain it to a human where they
• 30:31
  can understand it and get efficient, effective at
• 30:35
  horsemanship? So then these chromatic
• 30:37
  principles show up and it's like, yeah, this is exactly what
• 30:40
  I learned. This is exactly not even any
• 30:43
  different. So we go into the these next
• 30:46
  principles of rhythm. So we talked about, you know,
• 30:49
  vibration, polarity. Now rhythm, there's a rhythm to
• 30:52
  things. There's a rhythm to everything.
• 30:54
  You know, the ocean comes in of the waves comes out with waves.
• 30:57
  When I teach my five part series with horses, there's a rhythm
• 31:00
  getting established. You know, how fast is this horse
• 31:04
  walking? How slow is he walking?
• 31:06
  How how how high is his head? How low is?
• 31:08
  And probably that rhythm can be for good or bad, right?
• 31:12
  Don't you think we can establish kind of an erratic, maybe not
• 31:16
  erratic, but I was just thinking you were talking about like
• 31:19
  heartbeat and how our thoughts can influence our heartbeat
• 31:23
  where it's like we're calm and collected or we're thinking
• 31:26
  really scared, nervous thoughts. And so our hearts beating up and
• 31:29
  depending on that, that changes our interactions with our horse,
• 31:34
  whether it's more high strung, not even erratic because I think
• 31:38
  it feeds off each other. So it's like it is coming from
• 31:41
  somewhere. So it's not just out of the blue
• 31:43
  versus maybe how that rhythm. And I don't know, tell me if I'm
• 31:47
  anywhere on what you were thinking, but we go in there
• 31:50
  calm and collected. I'm like that changes the
• 31:53
  relationship, our interactions with the horse, the feedback
• 31:56
  that's going back and forth. Yes, we haven't got to cause and
• 32:00
  effect in the principles, but that's what basically we're
• 32:03
  going to talk about how that works.
• 32:05
  If I am a cause and I'm presenting cause to the horse
• 32:09
  for an effect. Now there's so many, but we'll
• 32:12
  just keep it kind of simple. If I go in there and I've
• 32:15
  groomed for mindset in our level 1 where I go inward and I, I ask
• 32:19
  myself what have I been thinking about in the last 12 hours?
• 32:22
  What have I been thinking about last 24 hours, a few days last
• 32:25
  week, last month, last year. If we've been doing that, we've
• 32:28
  been painting a pretty good picture.
• 32:29
  So we can do it really quick. We can go in and go, yeah, I've
• 32:31
  been kind of mentally stressed because it's tax time as an
• 32:34
  example. Well, then I'm feeling
• 32:36
  constricted in the heart. So my emotion is a little maybe
• 32:39
  frustrated and then my posture is not presenting something that
• 32:43
  would a horse would be worthy to or willing to want to join up.
• 32:46
  And then my actions are probably rigid and bracing and, and out
• 32:50
  of time and, and too much pressure, not enough pressure
• 32:52
  and, and I'm just not aware. But if I go inward and I assess
• 32:56
  those four things that I can control, my thoughts, my
• 32:59
  emotions, internal pathway of communication with the horse,
• 33:02
  they share the same things, thought and emotion, outward
• 33:04
  pathway, communication, attitude, which is posturing and
• 33:08
  action, which is actually doing. So when I'm aware of those
• 33:12
  things and I go into the presence of a horse and I'm
• 33:15
  going to present the cause me as the cause energy transfer
• 33:20
  information. And then I observe the feedback
• 33:22
  from the horse and I correct it fast and present again for the
• 33:26
  most desirable outcomes. Yeah, it's definitely going to
• 33:30
  have an effect. And we could give it a value
• 33:31
  judgement of good or bad, but it's more of understanding these
• 33:35
  principles of polarity. Am I pegged out over here or am
• 33:39
  I pegged out over here or am I pretty centered?
• 33:41
  And that's where we got to answer the question for
• 33:44
  ourselves. You know, different people who
• 33:46
  are going to have different relationships with different
• 33:47
  horses. Horses will adapt to different
• 33:49
  people. Different people adapt to
• 33:51
  different horses. The ability to do that is
• 33:53
  controlling energy transfer. That's it.
• 33:56
  Whenever you can develop the 6th sense that I speak of, which is
• 33:59
  above or five senses, then you can know like I'm going to, no
• 34:04
  horse is ever going to throw my control off and I'm never going
• 34:09
  to throw theirs off. It's going to be harmonizing or
• 34:12
  agreeing. So it's when 2 beings come
• 34:15
  together moving in a vibrational frequency.
• 34:18
  If one's up here and one's down here, one either has to come
• 34:20
  down or one has to come up or they got to meet in the middle.
• 34:23
  And it's a matter of let's get going.
• 34:25
  Let's have a visualization, let's have an imagination, let's
• 34:29
  think, let's make a decision or a choice.
• 34:32
  Let's focus with intention, let's go through action, and
• 34:36
  then we see the outcome and then we get feedback and we make
• 34:39
  necessary changes present again, and then you start harmonizing
• 34:43
  those energies. So if ones real high, ones real
• 34:46
  low or they're both off the charts real high, we can
• 34:48
  actually bring us both down. And then that starts to find
• 34:52
  where our balance is. Because I just did a
• 34:54
  differential class where I took two different horses that are my
• 34:57
  horses. I know them very well and I
• 34:58
  could actually I could I took pictures of this.
• 35:00
  We had a freshly groomed arenas. So the circles one's really
• 35:04
  tight around the human and 1 was really big around the human.
• 35:07
  Two different horses, two different energies, two
• 35:10
  different energy transfers. But that differentials so
• 35:13
  powerful because this particular individual has gone through
• 35:16
  they're at Level 3 going into level 4.
• 35:19
  But sometimes we do some ground things for a differential.
• 35:22
  You're pretty good with this horse.
• 35:24
  Now let's add another horse to the equation.
• 35:26
  SO1 horse ground tide. Take this horse, do the five
• 35:28
  part series with see the energy transfer with this horse round
• 35:31
  tie that one. Go over to this one.
• 35:33
  Do this and then the, the results in, in that exercise are
• 35:39
  so much faster than me standing there teaching and coaching and
• 35:43
  trying, you know, the horses and the teachers at that point and
• 35:46
  the energy transfers are felt and experienced.
• 35:48
  So they got the sense of it with me explaining it.
• 35:51
  They got the understanding of it through experiencing and doing
• 35:54
  it. They literally merged
• 35:56
  understanding and sense of together and got the true
• 35:58
  essence. And the horses are man.
• 36:01
  When they figure out that's what you're doing, they step up and
• 36:04
  reveal things to you or to that person that I could never train
• 36:08
  the horse to do. It's unseen, it's unknown.
• 36:11
  That person just went through every sensory receptors in their
• 36:15
  entire body through eyes, through hearing, through smell.
• 36:19
  I mean, you can actually taste it, but it's, it's like touch.
• 36:22
  So they're, they're pegging off the charts of all these sensory
• 36:26
  receptors in their body connecting their thoughts and
• 36:29
  emotions, their attitude and their action with the horse.
• 36:32
  And then it gets into a feedback loop, and then they see and feel
• 36:36
  actual changes taking place based on a thought.
• 36:39
  And it's starts with a thought. And what's really beautiful
• 36:41
  about what I can't train horses to do is when their thought
• 36:44
  drifts away, the horse does something subtle or obvious to
• 36:47
  bring their thoughts back in. Then they get right back into
• 36:50
  the feedback loop. And then when the feedback loop
• 36:52
  is circular and harmonious in agreement and balance, then they
• 36:57
  feel it and they know how to keep it there.
• 36:59
  And then their mind drifts off into something.
• 37:01
  Not a big deal. It's just in a we're developing
• 37:03
  awareness. The horse will do something
• 37:05
  subtle to bring them back in. My horses will usually stop and
• 37:08
  look at them. What do you want to do?
• 37:10
  And then they'll know what to do to continue the, the rhythm.
• 37:13
  And then they'll come to a stop exercise that we have.
• 37:15
  And I'll ask him when he came to you and questioned what
• 37:19
  triggered in your thought right before that happened.
• 37:22
  And they'll, they'll respond usually like, well, I was
• 37:23
  thinking about what I was going to do next.
• 37:25
  And it's like, yeah, he noticed that vibrational frequency
• 37:28
  changed in the thought patterns. And you may have non verbally
• 37:32
  communicated something. And this is all maybes because
• 37:35
  I, I can't really see exactly what's going on.
• 37:37
  I watch my horses more than I watch people, but it's like, I
• 37:41
  watch the horse question, what do you want?
• 37:43
  And then I go to the person to see like, well, what did they
• 37:45
  do? But I can't see a nonverbal
• 37:47
  communication that took place. Maybe the horse did, but I'll
• 37:50
  ask them. And then it's generally, well,
• 37:52
  my thoughts of what we were doing went away to what I'm
• 37:55
  going to do. And then the horse picked up on
• 37:58
  it. And it's like, yes, see, that's
• 38:00
  what happens when you're on your back.
• 38:01
  It's more acute at that point because your rhythms, breathing
• 38:04
  rhythm, your heart rate rhythm, your emotions, your actions,
• 38:07
  they're all transferring energy back and forth.
• 38:10
  Some people are aware of it, some people aren't.
• 38:13
  They're not even aware of body awareness.
• 38:15
  What are my feet doing in conjunction with my hands, my
• 38:18
  seat, my eyes, that this this body that is an input mechanism
• 38:23
  for the horse. We have to develop awareness to
• 38:26
  what this hands doing and this hands doing and that right foot
• 38:29
  and that left foot and the seat and my head, my posture, my off
• 38:33
  center, my onset. All these things start to take
• 38:35
  into play because the horse is sitting there taking notes on
• 38:37
  all of it. And you do 1 subtle change.
• 38:41
  That's a change in vibrational frequency.
• 38:43
  It's a change in rhythm, maybe even a change in polarity, cause
• 38:46
  and effect. They start to understand that
• 38:49
  and see, we haven't even gotten up into the energies of
• 38:52
  masculine, feminine energies, which is law of gender,
• 38:54
  principle of gender. See, horses are real good at
• 38:57
  balancing because I get like guys that are already kind of
• 39:00
  explained. They come in here and they've
• 39:03
  been operating at a high frequency of masculinity.
• 39:06
  You know, these are war fighters.
• 39:07
  So they they're going to be doers, builders.
• 39:11
  They're going to be operating in a masculine energy.
• 39:13
  Then they've got to balance that, you know, with a with
• 39:16
  coming back to their life or their children or, or humanity.
• 39:20
  And it's like a fat energy those energies are not even aware of
• 39:23
  and then they're not balanced. Horses are the best at letting
• 39:26
  them know your, your energies aren't balanced.
• 39:29
  And see, people confuse that masculine and feminine energy a
• 39:33
  lot. But it's, it's a, it's, it's two
• 39:36
  types of energies. They're the same energy, just
• 39:38
  different degrees. So you got a masculine feminine
• 39:41
  energy. They both have to be there to
• 39:42
  create whatever it is you want. I mean, if you go into the
• 39:45
  scripture like Adam and Eve, that represents masculine
• 39:48
  feminine energy. The child is an understanding,
• 39:50
  creation of understanding. So it's like when a horse and
• 39:54
  human come together and those energies are off, horses will
• 39:59
  help. I couldn't train them to do
• 40:00
  this, but they'll help calibrate those unseen internal masculine
• 40:04
  feminine energies within the person because we we all possess
• 40:07
  both. And it's, it's, it's getting to
• 40:10
  be scientifically proven where the left hemisphere of the
• 40:12
  brain, right hemisphere of the brain represent masculine,
• 40:15
  feminine intuition, you know, doer, you know, type things
• 40:19
  horses, they pick up on that. It's like, Oh your your energies
• 40:22
  are way off the chart because I'm picking up on this.
• 40:24
  Maybe it doesn't even come in through action.
• 40:26
  Like some of these guys come in and they've got arms like
• 40:29
  pythons. They could RIP the the face off
• 40:32
  of a horse if they wanted to, but they're being gentle and
• 40:35
  kind. But they're energy.
• 40:37
  It's too, it's, it's off the charts and these horses pick up
• 40:40
  on it. And then I, I have to do as a
• 40:43
  facilitator, I have to do something to change the energy
• 40:46
  so that they can visually see and feel the change.
• 40:49
  Generally, what I'll do is put the person in a vulnerable
• 40:52
  feeling of like, take your shoes off.
• 40:54
  We're going to do this with no shoes on.
• 40:55
  We're going to feel the dirt with our toes.
• 40:57
  And then it changes the whole perception of like, wow, I could
• 41:01
  actually get stepped on. And then it's like a little bit
• 41:03
  of a energy change in masculine, feminine energy.
• 41:07
  It's toned down, I should say, towards balance.
• 41:10
  And then they get to see it, feel it and understand it.
• 41:13
  And then the horses come to that.
• 41:15
  They're like, you did it, you changed.
• 41:16
  I see. And I, I can, you're attracting
• 41:19
  me to you now as a, as a repellent before.
• 41:23
  So it's a very beautiful thing to understand these hermetic
• 41:25
  principles, especially in communication or establishing a
• 41:28
  relationship with a horse, because man, it was almost like
• 41:31
  I was flying dark for a long time, not not understanding
• 41:35
  them, but in but in in reality, they're there.
• 41:39
  We're subjected to them whether we're aware of them or not.
• 41:42
  And being open and willing to change, the horses see that feel
• 41:45
  that they understand it. But then when you add more
• 41:48
  knowledge to ourselves and what's actually happening and
• 41:51
  then experience, we gain wisdom and then we can apply that
• 41:54
  wisdom correctly, efficiently and effectively to create what
• 41:59
  we imagine, what we visualize. And through horsemanship, I got
• 42:03
  a daily reset ritual of doing that and and and now I get to
• 42:06
  teach that in life, coaching other people that have have
• 42:09
  never been exposed to horses in this way.
• 42:12
  Yeah, Yeah. It's interesting.
• 42:14
  One thing. Well, I think part of that is
• 42:16
  being able to communicate it through our words.
• 42:19
  I think a lot of people who have been with horses, like I
• 42:22
  understand what you're feeling, but how do we communicate what
• 42:25
  exactly is happening, which is what it sounds like a lot of the
• 42:28
  Hermetic principles are, is that ways to describe what's
• 42:32
  happening. The other thing that really
• 42:33
  sticks out is how much it's about use the word harmony.
• 42:36
  But I think balance can be tied into the same thing where when
• 42:41
  we're out of balance, things are more difficult.
• 42:44
  And it's like when we are able to achieve that balance, it
• 42:47
  changes things. And I think that's for sure true
• 42:51
  of mental health. A lot of that is like
• 42:54
  something's out of balance. I think that's our our body, our
• 42:56
  mind signaling that to us. Like you're not balanced,
• 42:59
  something needs to change. That's something like we've at
• 43:02
  least seen around our place where that need for balance to
• 43:07
  be restored. Otherwise, life's really hard
• 43:10
  without it. We'll see.
• 43:11
  Looking at hermetic principles and we say harmony, that's
• 43:15
  agreement. This is another word for
• 43:17
  agreement. Night and day are totally
• 43:20
  different and the same thing, just different degree.
• 43:22
  So whenever we look at, we say off balance or off center, we
• 43:27
  can be comforted to know that if this is out of order, it can be
• 43:31
  put back in or yeah. So like I'll focus on what I
• 43:34
  want, not on what I don't want. So if I'm at the top of that
• 43:37
  scale of like what I don't want, I do not want this horse kicking
• 43:40
  out of me. I'm aware of that.
• 43:42
  But I'm also aware of that we're going to dip down into the sine
• 43:46
  wave of frequency to what I do want.
• 43:48
  So I'm going to focus on that and that's going to bring what I
• 43:51
  don't want, what I do want to closer together as we go with
• 43:54
  org. So it's like, if you look at
• 43:56
  like a stock market chart where it starts here and then in five
• 44:00
  years later, you can see how it's been trending.
• 44:03
  Is it going up? Is it going lateral, Is it going
• 44:06
  down? But you see all these tiny
• 44:07
  little ups and downs, ups and downs, ups and downs.
• 44:10
  That's what horsemanship is. That's that's.
• 44:13
  That's what I was going to say. And life up and down, up and
• 44:15
  down, and hopefully staying, you know, that creates the field
• 44:18
  we're kind of living on. Yeah.
• 44:20
  So then whenever you can realize and align with these principles
• 44:24
  that govern the heavens and the earth, we align with those and
• 44:28
  use those to our benefit. That's where you're, you can
• 44:32
  track where you start doing that.
• 44:34
  Is it trending up? Is it trending lateral or is it
• 44:36
  trending down and then giving it a value judgment bad down, good
• 44:40
  up. That's that's personal
• 44:42
  preference. But it's not necessarily bad to
• 44:44
  trend down because how are you going to learn what not to do to
• 44:49
  go up? Because if you've always just
• 44:51
  trended up everything and we're giving it a value judgment of
• 44:53
  good, it's always good. It's always good, it's always
• 44:55
  good. You're never going to have a
• 44:56
  reference. So like people that say, I'm
• 44:59
  really struggling with this, it's like, cool, that's a good
• 45:02
  thing. You actually can look at it as
• 45:05
  like there's going to be a change.
• 45:07
  And what we can do is think about what we want different
• 45:10
  from what you're going through and then take steps toward the
• 45:15
  change. And we've already talked about
• 45:17
  the process and procedure and how to do that.
• 45:19
  And it's interactive. So you got to do it through
• 45:21
  experience. It's not like, well, I'm going
• 45:22
  to think about change, but not ever apply the the system
• 45:27
  because you'll never effectively get it cause and effect.
• 45:29
  So people that are struggling, it's like, yeah, look, you're
• 45:34
  learning what struggle even is. Or when you're not struggling,
• 45:38
  you learn the struggle you went through.
• 45:41
  You had to do it get to the point where you realize you're
• 45:43
  not struggling. Otherwise you don't have any
• 45:45
  contrast. I mean, if everything was
• 45:46
  daylight all the time, we wouldn't even know what night.
• 45:48
  Was and I think we also have to hit those dips.
• 45:52
  We have to go on those downward trends to realize like, oh, I
• 45:55
  need to change something. Like I think in horsemanship you
• 45:58
  can see that if you get a big reaction out of your horse, you
• 46:01
  know that's not what you wanted. That's a time when it's like, I
• 46:04
  got to do something different, like my horse is doing this.
• 46:06
  It's not safe for us or it doesn't feel good or whatever.
• 46:09
  That's I think a time that pushes us to learn.
• 46:12
  Same thing in life. Like when we get low enough
• 46:15
  because what we're doing is not working, that's when we're ready
• 46:19
  to say, OK, this isn't working. I don't know what's going to
• 46:22
  happen, but I'm ready to do something different like because
• 46:26
  because we're going into that dip.
• 46:27
  And see, practicing horsemanship, the sacred art of
• 46:30
  horsemanship, self study, you get more efficient and effective
• 46:33
  at doing that quicker. So your lows aren't as low and
• 46:36
  your highs aren't as high. As far as the surprise, shock
• 46:39
  and awe of it, it's going to be like, yeah, I created this
• 46:42
  happiness that's I expected. I manifested this because I know
• 46:46
  how to do this. So it's like skill and
• 46:48
  experience coming together for each challenge.
• 46:51
  So like in horsemanship, I would, and I told this to my
• 46:54
  participant today, go, I would not have put you with this
• 46:56
  particular horse day one. As you advance through my
• 47:00
  horses, this is the time to get the differential so that you can
• 47:03
  see I want to set you up for the best success based on your skill
• 47:06
  and experience for this particular challenge.
• 47:09
  When a person goes too fast too soon from the and it gets
• 47:13
  chaotic and disorder that that's an OK thing.
• 47:15
  That's where they get to say, oh, I need to make some course
• 47:18
  corrections here and slow down. Maybe they're going too fast too
• 47:22
  soon. Slow down, invest some more
• 47:24
  time, develop the skill, get the experience.
• 47:28
  That's a huge thing. I think with Mustangs is trying
• 47:31
  to go so fast and instead of slowing down being like wait,
• 47:35
  hold on a minute, we need to focus on this place right here
• 47:39
  since. And then she mentioned the
• 47:41
  Mustangs because people ask me why Mustangs, and I used to say
• 47:45
  this, they taught me the most about myself.
• 47:47
  That's why. But here, here's more to
• 47:49
  elaborate on with that. These horses operate in these
• 47:53
  principles. They understand them, they live
• 47:55
  in accordance with them. They analyze things, life and
• 47:58
  death. It's it's that serious to them.
• 48:00
  They understand contrast, they understand it.
• 48:03
  And for us to develop a relationship with something
• 48:05
  vibrating at a frequency of that caliber, we've got to be willing
• 48:10
  to change. Do that with the horses up here
• 48:13
  and we're here, we don't want to expect the horse to come down to
• 48:16
  us. We need to come up to them.
• 48:18
  And different horses are at different levels.
• 48:20
  I mean, I have some that were way up here and I'm, I'm almost
• 48:23
  up there, you know, But each time I'm with them, I get to
• 48:27
  ratchet up a little bit more, a little bit more and never expect
• 48:29
  them to come down South in horsemanship through traditional
• 48:32
  training practices. They've actually done a
• 48:34
  disservice to the Mustang inviting them into the human
• 48:37
  element. Well, I should say forcing them
• 48:39
  into the human element, not inviting an invitation is
• 48:42
  totally different than force. I never, and I stick with this.
• 48:46
  There's rules, there's regulations, there's processes
• 48:50
  and procedures. There's a system and we never
• 48:52
  break it. Never force a horse to submit
• 48:55
  with pain or fear. I'm not going to put
• 48:58
  restrictions in their mind and tensions in their body to force
• 49:02
  them to do what it is I have an imagination of doing.
• 49:05
  So it's it's a, it's a beautiful calibration.
• 49:08
  Whenever we can follow rules, go in it with a philosophy as I'm
• 49:13
  going to trade places with this horse and I'm going to treat
• 49:15
  them as I'd want to be treated if the roles were reversed.
• 49:18
  Pretend that each session we're together, they get to do to me
• 49:20
  what I've been doing to them, whether it be on the mental
• 49:22
  plane, physical plane, spiritual plane.
• 49:25
  I want that to harmonize freely. It's called flow.
• 49:28
  I want it to flow. And whenever a horse is out
• 49:31
  there and then invited correctly into the human element, that's
• 49:34
  when their conscious ascension begins.
• 49:36
  Or should some people will destroy that and, and it's
• 49:40
  through usually what's the word ignorance.
• 49:43
  Now, I'll, I'll go as far as to say if somebody's being mean
• 49:46
  intentionally, they're, they're stupid.
• 49:48
  But if somebody's being kind intentionally, they're smart.
• 49:51
  That's on that polarity scale. Now, emotions will get involved
• 49:54
  and they take offense to that and all that, but that's on
• 49:56
  them, not me. I'm not responsible for how
• 50:00
  someone feels based on facts. If you're going to intentionally
• 50:03
  be mean to this animal, that's stupid.
• 50:05
  If you're going to intentionally be kind to them, that's smart.
• 50:08
  And that's where the guideline we want to stay in.
• 50:11
  It's like, yeah, man, if you don't know that you're doing
• 50:14
  something is one thing. But if you do know and you don't
• 50:17
  make a change, a necessary change to correct the behavior,
• 50:20
  that's wrong and we can call it right, wrong, good and bad, that
• 50:23
  type thing. But these principles are how we
• 50:25
  know. It's like, okay, this horse is
• 50:28
  vibrating at this frequency. He's calm and quiet.
• 50:30
  Why would you create the opposite when you have the
• 50:33
  ability to do it? I've gone to so many, we'll call
• 50:37
  them demonstrations. I've been invited to, to assess
• 50:40
  some people's training practices at different places and, you
• 50:43
  know, like horse rescues and all kinds of different places.
• 50:46
  So I show up and I'm like really cool.
• 50:48
  Like, yeah, I want to see how you guys do what you do.
• 50:50
  And inevitably, they groom the horse, the horses calm and
• 50:53
  quiet, relaxed. And then they take them into a
• 50:55
  round pin with this big long lunge whip and they amp him up.
• 50:59
  And then they, then they invite another participant into the
• 51:02
  equation and, and have them do it.
• 51:05
  And then it's and I watch, I watch order come into disorder
• 51:09
  and stay there for an extended period of time and then get back
• 51:13
  into order for a limited period of time on the sine wave of
• 51:17
  frequency. And at the end I'm asked to
• 51:19
  evaluate this. And then my simple question is,
• 51:21
  why would you take a calm, quiet horse and go to the opposite and
• 51:26
  then insert another person in that doesn't have any skill or
• 51:29
  experience to handle situation and then roll through that to
• 51:34
  where the person comes out of that basically rattled.
• 51:37
  And then the horse does self regulate and kind of calibrate
• 51:39
  down at the ending. And then it's over And I'm
• 51:41
  thinking, wow, and how much of this happens?
• 51:44
  And then I go place to place in place and I see that happening
• 51:48
  more and more. And it's this traditional
• 51:49
  training practice of based on fear.
• 51:52
  This horse is big and intimidating and they they need,
• 51:54
  I need to tire them down and. That's what I was going to ask.
• 51:57
  Do you think that that method is fear based?
• 51:59
  Like we have to almost like create the worst case scenario
• 52:03
  so that it won't possibly happen another time.
• 52:06
  Yeah. So I, I think in terms of
• 52:10
  frequency now I used to call it scale of one to 10 in which I
• 52:13
  still refer to that. So I'm going to apply a pressure
• 52:15
  to a horse, which is a question and it's a frequency change is
• 52:19
  what it is. So I'll start at a one or two
• 52:21
  soft, we'll call it, and then increase the intensity of the
• 52:24
  frequency of the vibration through action to get a desired
• 52:29
  response. So the horse can learn through
• 52:32
  differentials of vibrational frequency, which they totally
• 52:35
  understand. They do it with each other.
• 52:37
  Well, people that are naive or ignorant of it, they're going to
• 52:41
  go in at a 10, the very first question, and then the horse
• 52:44
  responds to the 10. Well, then they keep, they keep
• 52:47
  throwing and eights and nines on a scale of one to 10, they keep
• 52:50
  throwing those high energies at them and they keep responding
• 52:54
  until they get tired. And a horse knows how to
• 52:56
  regulate energy. They're masters at it.
• 52:59
  So energy conservation, the law of energy conservation, they
• 53:02
  know how to do it. They've done it for Millennium.
• 53:04
  They've got into the habit of conserving energies for the most
• 53:08
  efficient and effective way to sustain survival, especially a
• 53:12
  Mustang. So it's like, OK, you're going
• 53:14
  to go try to use these laws of nature against the horse.
• 53:18
  When he's the master at the laws of nature, he's going to use
• 53:21
  them against you. So it's cause and effect.
• 53:23
  At that point, it's present what you expect.
• 53:26
  So if you expect this horse to respond into this high energy,
• 53:29
  high frequency and then submit to you through that, that's an
• 53:33
  unrealistic expectation based on experience.
• 53:35
  But it's it's unrealistic because you're using the very
• 53:38
  thing you don't want to get what you don't want.
• 53:41
  And it's like focus on what you do want.
• 53:43
  If you want a calm, quiet thinking horse, present calm,
• 53:45
  quiet thinking to him, increase the intensity to get different
• 53:49
  results. So in other words, if I want a
• 53:51
  horse to walk and he's trotting, that's so fine.
• 53:54
  We're up at that disorder part where it's like, well, I'm
• 53:57
  asking him to walk, but he's trotting.
• 53:58
  But I know it won't last long because they'll self regulate
• 54:00
  and they'll come back down to a walk naturally.
• 54:02
  And then when they do that, then I'll, I will release pressure as
• 54:05
  a sign of, well, thank you. Or maybe I'll do a direction
• 54:08
  change to use their own energy, not necessarily against them,
• 54:12
  but it's harder for a horse to do 5 laps, it's harder for them
• 54:16
  to do a lap direction change than it is to just sit there and
• 54:19
  go on five laps. So we look at this energy,
• 54:21
  right? They're burning energy running
• 54:24
  in five laps. Well, if I just ask them calmly,
• 54:26
  quietly to change direction, it takes a lot of energy for them
• 54:29
  to take their 1000 lbs going this way, redirect it, go the
• 54:34
  other way. And then I may just subtly do
• 54:36
  that again and then do it again, and then do it again.
• 54:38
  And then they walk and then I release it.
• 54:40
  And then they look at me like, oh, you just want me to walk.
• 54:42
  And then I release as a thank you.
• 54:44
  Yeah, that's it. So I need it.
• 54:46
  And then they would just change thoughts, emotions, attitude,
• 54:49
  action in the horse to where anytime I ask them a question,
• 54:53
  they're going to go to a walk. Now I can change the intensity
• 54:55
  of the vibrational frequency to go up to a trot anytime I want.
• 54:59
  I already know that because he did that the very first time.
• 55:01
  So I know it's available. But it's like through thoughts,
• 55:04
  thinking, through action, doing over time, becoming, forming
• 55:09
  habits, creating a character. So then I have a horse that he
• 55:13
  wants to walk. When I ask him to walk, he wants
• 55:15
  to trot. When I ask him to trot, he wants
• 55:16
  to gallop. When I ask him to gallop, and he
• 55:19
  knows the difference between those, his thoughts don't change
• 55:22
  into erratic and chaotic reactions.
• 55:25
  They're calm, quiet responses. So then we're operating in
• 55:28
  harmony, which is an agreement because I've abide in those laws
• 55:33
  or those principles of nature that he abides in.
• 55:36
  And then we can communicate efficiently, effectively for a
• 55:38
  long term sustainable relationship to where no
• 55:41
  restriction get put in. The horse of confusion, doubt,
• 55:45
  fear, anxiety, depression, I mean all of those same things
• 55:49
  show up in horses. Anybody that's been around him
• 55:51
  long enough knows that those same characteristics are there,
• 55:55
  and then we can have a horse that's open and willing.
• 55:58
  He's in a curiosity and a confidence mindset.
• 56:00
  His body is not in tension. He doesn't get ulcers, he
• 56:04
  doesn't get kissing spine. He doesn't get all this stuff.
• 56:07
  And it's like, well, you know, I've been running the same
• 56:09
  horses for quite a few years. None of them have any of these
• 56:13
  issues. And we don't put horseshoes on
• 56:15
  them. We've been running two decades,
• 56:17
  no horseshoes, Colorado Rockies for 13 years, no horseshoes, no
• 56:20
  restrictions on any anything. How do you, you know, when we go
• 56:24
  all into all these little capillary things of that?
• 56:26
  But it's like, if I really want to align with what the horse
• 56:29
  knows and understands is in alignment with, I got to be
• 56:32
  least interruptive to that that natural design.
• 56:35
  How do you think that plays out the other way?
• 56:37
  Because I would say being too harsh is a fear based reaction.
• 56:40
  And then I also think if you're not, I don't necessarily want to
• 56:44
  say soft, but if you never have any expectations of a horse that
• 56:47
  can also be detrimental. But I also think that's based on
• 56:51
  fear also. Both of those are the same
• 56:53
  thing, different, different, different degrees.
• 56:55
  So if a person is in fear and they're being too soft, you
• 56:59
  know, timid, shy, apprehensive. Or even, and I would say
• 57:02
  sometimes they would say that they're being kind, you know,
• 57:05
  they're following the horse's lead or doing, you know, not
• 57:09
  really having expectations of the horse, just kind of letting
• 57:11
  the horse do whatever they want, maybe relating it to boundaries,
• 57:15
  you know, where it's how does that.
• 57:17
  Yeah, I mean in it's it's personal preference at at some
• 57:20
  points, but it's like if you don't mind it would matter.
• 57:23
  Like some people will hand ways their horses.
• 57:25
  Some people are like no way when they're on the lead.
• 57:27
  I do not. And it's goes into personal
• 57:29
  preference. But allowing the horse to give
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  feedback is a paramount have to do it.
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  You know, I'll allow my horses to hand graze sometimes and then
• 57:39
  I won't and other times. But I know how to communicate
• 57:41
  what it is that I want. And that comes with skill and
• 57:43
  experience for each challenge. So if a person's timid, shy and
• 57:46
  scared through experience, they're going to develop
• 57:49
  confidence just like a horse. It comes into the human element
• 57:52
  that's timid, shy, and scared through through time, developing
• 57:55
  skill, through experience. In each challenge that we
• 57:59
  present that there's a formula of course, that's going to
• 58:03
  create the character either in the human or the person.
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  Now, some people jump in feet first into Mustangs.
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  We know that. That's why there's so much Oops.
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  That's why I did a very good living for very many years.
• 58:15
  Because of that, you know, setting that aside, it's like
• 58:19
  coaching is real important. Had I known what I know now, I
• 58:21
  may have sought out more coaching.
• 58:23
  In those days, I came from a place where I didn't have
• 58:26
  YouTube. Eight years of no cell phone, we
• 58:29
  did have that junky little Internet that just sits a spin.
• 58:32
  So you can't look at, well, I mean, literally, you look
• 58:35
  something up, go make a sandwich, come back.
• 58:36
  It's still spinning. It's like, well, I'm not going
• 58:39
  to sit here and do that. So today people have a lot more
• 58:42
  access to coaching. You know, I'm not talking about
• 58:45
  in person coaching, talking about like I have a YouTube
• 58:48
  channel, go watch YouTube. There's many other people that
• 58:51
  have YouTube channels get some coaching.
• 58:53
  But to develop the awareness is the purpose of horsemanship.
• 58:56
  You know, that's that's like a skill set everybody needs.
• 58:59
  They're going to interact with a horse is all study awareness 1
• 59:03
  verbal communication. What are you doing?
• 59:05
  Horses picking up on what you're doing.
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  Even if we're not aware of it. They are.
• 59:10
  Even if we're not aware of these principles that I'm Speaking of,
• 59:13
  they are. And it's like, wow, once you
• 59:15
  start down that pathway and really want to go deeper and
• 59:19
  wider to discover it's nothing you will ever watch on a video.
• 59:23
  You will never get that from a video.
• 59:26
  You just won't. That's why I created the
• 59:28
  Tropical Island Adventure Clinic because you can actually get on
• 59:31
  an airplane, fly over to Saint Croix, Virgin Islands, get off
• 59:35
  the plane, smell the fresh sea air.
• 59:37
  Introduce yourself to a horse. Imagine getting on this horse
• 59:41
  through an interactive system to get predictable and reliable
• 59:45
  results. Ride the mountains, go down to
• 59:47
  the sea, ride the beach, run on the beach, whatever you want to
• 59:50
  do, it's your. We're only limited by the
• 59:52
  imaginations. Swim into the sea with a horse,
• 59:55
  go swimming with horses. It is, it is, it is an
• 59:58
  exhilarating experience. All things tie into it.
• 1:00:01
  I'm talking all 5 elements, but we'll focus on 4.
• 1:00:05
  Earth, wind, fire, water, it all comes together.
• 1:00:08
  It is an interesting experience and it's something that you can
• 1:00:12
  manifest into a reality and as you're going through the
• 1:00:15
  experience you start connecting. The mind, body, spirit complex
• 1:00:20
  that we are, but then take something from that away to
• 1:00:23
  where when you go back to your own horses or back to your own
• 1:00:26
  life and the five areas of your life have a whole new
• 1:00:28
  perspective and then realize a new perception that exists
• 1:00:34
  because it's at a higher frequency.
• 1:00:35
  So I explain it like this a lot as she relates to people.
• 1:00:38
  Horses can see things that we cannot see and, and that's,
• 1:00:42
  that's obvious, they can see further, but that's through
• 1:00:46
  everything's through frequency. So it's like people can hear
• 1:00:49
  different frequencies than other people.
• 1:00:51
  Higher or lower bass, treble, you know, you look at it that
• 1:00:54
  way. Horses can do that too.
• 1:00:57
  They, they can actually, one of the neat things in the physical
• 1:01:00
  body of that horse is he can tip his head sideways and it can see
• 1:01:04
  where he's going, where he's coming from in the moment.
• 1:01:07
  Physically, we can do it mentally.
• 1:01:09
  Most people have never really played with it.
• 1:01:11
  You're either worrying about the future or dwelling on the past.
• 1:01:14
  When you come into this understanding like you go have
• 1:01:17
  an experience that I just just immerse myself in so that I
• 1:01:20
  could help other people do it and understand it.
• 1:01:22
  It's like you can mentally look into your future.
• 1:01:25
  You can mentally look into your past right here in this moment
• 1:01:28
  and you can manifest what you want right now.
• 1:01:31
  Snap of a finger. It's inner controlling energy.
• 1:01:33
  That's all it is. And then when you develop a
• 1:01:36
  change in yourself in character, we'll call it, we'll rundown
• 1:01:39
  through it. But it's thoughts, thinking
• 1:01:41
  something, doing it, action, becoming, forming habits,
• 1:01:45
  creating a character. You change your vibrational
• 1:01:47
  frequency. I just found out there's 50
• 1:01:49
  trillion cells in our body and they're born each day.
• 1:01:52
  We'll call it born. There's new ones each day.
• 1:01:54
  In seven years, you cycle all of those out and you're a brand new
• 1:01:57
  human. Crazy.
• 1:01:58
  But you got to think of it in cellular form.
• 1:02:00
  It's like this little cell pops in like, hey guys, I'm here.
• 1:02:03
  And he's with his other little cell friends and they're like,
• 1:02:06
  hey, man, life sucks. And he's like, it does.
• 1:02:09
  He doesn't know. He doesn't have a memory yet.
• 1:02:11
  He gets there and his little cellular friend buddies are
• 1:02:13
  like, life sucks. What's he gonna start thinking?
• 1:02:16
  My own life sucks? So he keeps going.
• 1:02:18
  But if you say wait, I want to start thinking different.
• 1:02:20
  I want to start feeling different.
• 1:02:21
  I want my attitude to be different.
• 1:02:22
  I want my actions to be different each cell that's born.
• 1:02:25
  And you thinking that this is with horses too.
• 1:02:27
  Horses do the same thing. Those new cells come in and go,
• 1:02:30
  oh, it's a happy life, what's a happy world?
• 1:02:32
  We can do this. So do you think in time of seven
• 1:02:34
  years, short little period, long for some, short for others, but
• 1:02:38
  seven years you can change your whole cellular makeup.
• 1:02:41
  So if you've been practicing daily renewing your mind, like I
• 1:02:45
  say, it's a daily reset ritual with horses.
• 1:02:48
  I go play with horses. That's not the same horse.
• 1:02:50
  I'm not the same person. We're new cells.
• 1:02:52
  We're new thinking or new feeling or new attitude or new
• 1:02:55
  actions that painting is getting painted and it's going to look
• 1:02:59
  beautiful. More we focus on making it look
• 1:03:01
  beautiful. So it's like, man, this starts
• 1:03:04
  making whole much sense as above, so below, as within.
• 1:03:07
  So without how things correspond, how they work
• 1:03:10
  together. We're thinking, thoughts and
• 1:03:12
  cells are getting regenerated and they're getting a memory.
• 1:03:16
  It's just going to be easier and easier and easier to go down
• 1:03:19
  that path. And then when we stay centered,
• 1:03:20
  because if bad day pops up, it's easier to get back centered
• 1:03:23
  because you've been practicing having great days, we'll notice
• 1:03:26
  like, like people are going through a storm, they're in a
• 1:03:28
  storm and they're coming out of a storm or even think about it,
• 1:03:30
  literally a storm. It doesn't last forever.
• 1:03:33
  It's happening. And then that's the time that
• 1:03:35
  I'll look at it and break it down into a day of seasons.
• 1:03:38
  So we got spring, summer, fall, winter, break it down into one
• 1:03:43
  day. Your morning is your spring,
• 1:03:45
  your midday is your summer, your evenings is your fall and, and
• 1:03:48
  night is your winter and it's a death.
• 1:03:50
  And then you get a rebirth the next day.
• 1:03:52
  So you're going to die, you're going to sleep, you're going to
• 1:03:55
  literally die, and you're going to have new cells born.
• 1:03:58
  And then the spring comes morning and you get to go look
• 1:04:01
  at it in a different light. And then you get to understand
• 1:04:04
  like this horse at noon, he's real sleepy.
• 1:04:07
  His frequency changed from it morning when he's all amped up
• 1:04:10
  and ready to roll. So when you go present yourself,
• 1:04:13
  what is your frequency at the time of the the day, at the
• 1:04:16
  season of the day? Are you better at the spring is
• 1:04:19
  at the time you should go interact with a horse?
• 1:04:21
  Are you not so good at summer? And that's what you've got to be
• 1:04:24
  aware of. That way midday you go and play
• 1:04:26
  with a horse and you realize, well, this is my weak point.
• 1:04:28
  I'm actually strengthening it. I don't have to look at it as a
• 1:04:31
  bad thing. And then you start getting into
• 1:04:33
  this whole clarity of like, oh wow, as above, so below, as
• 1:04:36
  within, so without corresponding with a horse at the time of the
• 1:04:40
  day, season of the year. And then the rhythm of that
• 1:04:45
  cycles and then new horses coming in, new horses going out.
• 1:04:49
  I mean, and then it starts to really paint this big, big, big
• 1:04:51
  picture that goes back to that first principle.
• 1:04:55
  The all is mind. The universe is mental.
• 1:04:58
  What we think about, we bring about.
• 1:05:00
  And it is a beautiful experience to know that you have a sixth
• 1:05:03
  sense to go to when all the other five senses are maxed out.
• 1:05:06
  I mean, I don't see how this can work.
• 1:05:09
  I don't hear anything. I don't.
• 1:05:11
  My sensory receptors in this physical form, I've maxed out.
• 1:05:14
  They're limited, and they're limited for reasons, for good
• 1:05:17
  reasons. But then you go into that mental
• 1:05:19
  plane of existence and it's not limited.
• 1:05:22
  You can actually think limitlessly and then you go into
• 1:05:25
  that spiritual plane and that's where you get answers you did
• 1:05:27
  not have access to before. But you have to get in alignment
• 1:05:31
  in the other plane. Physical, mental, mental,
• 1:05:34
  physical, as above, so below, get into that to where you can
• 1:05:37
  access the spiritual plane. And that's why horses are
• 1:05:41
  spiritual animals. And we can do a whole podcast on
• 1:05:44
  that. But you look back in history and
• 1:05:46
  cave ridings, they wrote a horse on The Cave riding.
• 1:05:49
  He was really substantial or important in their life.
• 1:05:54
  And then it goes into, you know, that spiritual plane of, of
• 1:05:57
  harmonizing and getting into nature and that horses nature
• 1:06:00
  weird nature. But through programming and
• 1:06:03
  conditioning in society, we've been taught we're separate of
• 1:06:05
  nature. Yeah.
• 1:06:07
  And in a sense, we we are. We got separated.
• 1:06:10
  There there is a big gap probably in most of our lives.
• 1:06:15
  Horse brings us back and see it's not and it's not a secret
• 1:06:19
  Shaylee's. It's just that you look at 330
• 1:06:21
  million people in America and we only have 1.5 million horse
• 1:06:26
  owners, you know, to two million.
• 1:06:27
  I mean the numbers vary, but it's like 9 million horses.
• 1:06:30
  That's it down to 6,000,000. I saw the other day.
• 1:06:33
  It's like, whoa, that's, that's interesting.
• 1:06:35
  But so 996 to 9 million horses, 330 million people, these
• 1:06:39
  hermetic things that you and I get to see, they're sealed.
• 1:06:43
  Got it. You got to do it to access it.
• 1:06:45
  That's all that means. And then it's like, whoa, what a
• 1:06:48
  blessing. What what a what accessibility
• 1:06:51
  does other people have that we don't have that we do.
• 1:06:54
  Then that brings a whole new perspective of like, whoa,
• 1:06:56
  anybody that has a Mustang, that's even a smaller little, I
• 1:07:00
  mean hermetic, you know, sealed information because that horse
• 1:07:04
  has been operating in nature. He is nature.
• 1:07:07
  We've got to align with nature, present to nature, harmonize,
• 1:07:11
  agree with nature, get balanced. And then the human element is so
• 1:07:14
  easy. Like all those five areas.
• 1:07:16
  So like if I was coaching someone, I'd be like, what do
• 1:07:19
  you want? OK, I can just tell you how to
• 1:07:20
  get it. You want more money, that's
• 1:07:22
  easy. You want more, You want better
• 1:07:24
  relationships, that's really easy.
• 1:07:26
  You want happiness, Well, what do you find joy in?
• 1:07:28
  You know, it's, it's, it's really easy to go into the human
• 1:07:30
  element when you've been coached and taught by nature.
• 1:07:33
  I mean, I was looking at a study the other day.
• 1:07:35
  She leaves. And they were like Japanese
• 1:07:37
  doctors. You know what they prescribe to
• 1:07:39
  people. I've heard not.
• 1:07:42
  What we prescribe, Yeah. What was it?
• 1:07:45
  Go bathe in the forest, like go immerse yourself in the forest
• 1:07:47
  for three days. That's what you do.
• 1:07:49
  If it's not better, come back and we'll talk about prescribing
• 1:07:52
  some medicine. It's like just get your mind,
• 1:07:56
  mental mind, get it help it needs 1st and then the other
• 1:08:00
  things, they kind of fall away. So it's interesting.
• 1:08:04
  Yeah, very. Interesting.
• 1:08:04
  It is interesting. That's definitely what I
• 1:08:07
  experienced with horses. Like they get you back into like
• 1:08:10
  a homeostasis with I think where you are naturally meant to be
• 1:08:14
  outside of this world that's very loud, very in your face
• 1:08:16
  with lots of answers that I think we're it's pretty clear
• 1:08:20
  aren't super effective. Like people are struggling a lot
• 1:08:24
  so. Yeah, I mean, I coach people at
• 1:08:26
  such high caliber these days. And one of them asked me, you
• 1:08:29
  know, these are, these are like multi millionaires.
• 1:08:32
  These are people that they know the ropes and they're like,
• 1:08:35
  where were you 10 years ago that one of them asked me the other
• 1:08:38
  day and I was like, well, I wouldn't have been ready to be
• 1:08:41
  coaching you. So it's a process and there's
• 1:08:43
  procedures and there's alignments and then you attract
• 1:08:47
  what it is you want. So like I, I coach some people,
• 1:08:50
  they're just getting into horses and they're like, I want to make
• 1:08:52
  money with my horses, but these people won't pay.
• 1:08:54
  And it's like, we'll quit chasing people that won't pay,
• 1:08:57
  start attracting people that will.
• 1:08:59
  Well, how do I do that? Will you become valuable?
• 1:09:01
  That's it. That's the that's the the
• 1:09:03
  formula become valuable. Well, how do I become valuable?
• 1:09:06
  Go within, go within yourself, your own heart.
• 1:09:08
  Don't worry about what other people are doing or comparing or
• 1:09:11
  thinking about you. Create in your own mind.
• 1:09:14
  Imagine what you want, visualize it.
• 1:09:16
  Go in with your heart and if you truly desire it, do it.
• 1:09:20
  And that's your seat of authenticity.
• 1:09:22
  That's where that sits in the emotional.
• 1:09:24
  You know the heart if you if you have a thought and it's a backed
• 1:09:27
  by an emotion of like enthusiasm, you're really
• 1:09:31
  unstoppable. And the second that you get
• 1:09:33
  distracted by society, what they'll think of you.
• 1:09:37
  I mean, I I created a bit less bridle Whoo.
• 1:09:39
  I created it because I wanted it.
• 1:09:41
  I wanted it for my horses. I did it out of love and
• 1:09:44
  kindness to my horses. So 5000 different people weren't
• 1:09:46
  yanking on their face with a bit.
• 1:09:48
  Then I realized, wow, this, this little piece of equipment has
• 1:09:51
  unlocked other things that I hadn't foreseen when I created
• 1:09:54
  it. In other words, I don't put
• 1:09:56
  restrictions in the minds of my horses through pain, even though
• 1:10:00
  it would be an accident. You know, some people may pull
• 1:10:03
  on a rein harder than they meant to or even aware of.
• 1:10:06
  Well, the horse's mind just went to that.
• 1:10:08
  So it'd be like if I'm sitting here talking with you and I ask
• 1:10:10
  you a question and I pinch you, it's just a little pain.
• 1:10:12
  It's not that big a deal. But how long are we going to
• 1:10:15
  have a conversation together until you get frustrated a
• 1:10:18
  little bit, be pinching you. It's just that distraction is
• 1:10:21
  all it is. So eliminating a bit out of my
• 1:10:23
  horse's mouth freed up any possibility of them getting
• 1:10:28
  distracted by a subtle pain or like a spoon banging on our
• 1:10:32
  teeth, you know, a bit banging on their teeth.
• 1:10:34
  Or, you know, you look at my bitless bridle and the and the
• 1:10:37
  harshest bitted bridle you can think of.
• 1:10:40
  They're the exact same thing. They're just different degrees.
• 1:10:44
  There's same class, different degree.
• 1:10:46
  So it's like how we use that with energy, you know, because I
• 1:10:50
  could put the most harshest bit you ever saw on my horse and I
• 1:10:52
  could just ride them with my legs and it wouldn't matter.
• 1:10:55
  Don't even touch the reins, but he's still carrying it.
• 1:10:57
  But you see, my point is like, how do we eliminate
• 1:11:00
  distractions? So that's what cause and effect
• 1:11:02
  comes in real good to help people understand time from a
• 1:11:06
  cause to an effect. And horsemanship, we get to see
• 1:11:09
  it instantaneous. When I pick up a lead rope,
• 1:11:11
  already the horse changed in vibrational frequency, already
• 1:11:15
  changed in posture. And when I ask a subtle question
• 1:11:18
  and he backs A hoof, that's the cause to the effect.
• 1:11:21
  Let's see, in doing like something like a bit less
• 1:11:24
  bridle, here's what I got to see.
• 1:11:25
  My cause was to eliminate the possibility of tourists hurting
• 1:11:29
  my horses, balancing on the reins, riding in Colorado.
• 1:11:32
  Well, the effect today, all those years, I could have got
• 1:11:35
  distracted and all that time and quit doing it using the bitless
• 1:11:39
  bridal, whatever. But it's like, oh, that cause
• 1:11:42
  created this effect 1015 years later to where I can actually
• 1:11:47
  have people ride my horses today and really get the concept of
• 1:11:51
  understanding of freeing up restrictions in the mind due to
• 1:11:55
  an unnecessary distraction of a bit hurting my horse to distract
• 1:11:59
  them from what it is we're really trying to teach them.
• 1:12:01
  And then it goes into other things too.
• 1:12:03
  But that's just one example. And maybe that was a shameless
• 1:12:06
  plug of my bitless bridal. Yeah, it's good.
• 1:12:08
  You saw, we just tried it on our little Arabian we have here and
• 1:12:11
  she loved it. She was.
• 1:12:12
  So I think at first she was so surprised, like what's going on
• 1:12:15
  here? But yeah, she.
• 1:12:17
  I love that. So I love that and man, I get
• 1:12:21
  pictures. I should probably put a collage
• 1:12:24
  together one day. I get pictures from all over the
• 1:12:26
  world. People buying that bitless
• 1:12:28
  bridal and then the profound peripheral benefits that come
• 1:12:32
  from doing, you know, like head tossing and all these, you know,
• 1:12:36
  byproducts a little bit. All this communication horses
• 1:12:39
  are trying to tell you and people aren't listening to, and
• 1:12:41
  that's like you're starting to understand better.
• 1:12:43
  Yeah, man, it just goes back to those hermetic principles, you
• 1:12:46
  know, cause and effect, vibrational frequency, rhythm,
• 1:12:50
  Jammu, masculine, feminine. If I'm going to pick up on a
• 1:12:53
  rein on a bitless bridle and ask a horse question and then my
• 1:12:57
  masculine energy gets the little peaked and I, and I go too
• 1:13:00
  aggressive and I don't get creative with my feminine
• 1:13:03
  energy, then I don't have a larger margin of error.
• 1:13:06
  You know, actually with a bit of spiral, I do have a larger
• 1:13:08
  margin of error. But if I go with a bit that
• 1:13:11
  could actually, you know, 'cause some pain, we won't say it's a
• 1:13:15
  horrific bit. It's just horrible.
• 1:13:17
  But it's like, yeah, I'm using this to communicate with my
• 1:13:19
  horse, but I, I, my energies get off and I get a little too
• 1:13:24
  assertive or aggressive. We could go that far.
• 1:13:27
  And then my margin of error just increased.
• 1:13:29
  Well, and I think you also have to recognize the horses, you
• 1:13:32
  know, I don't know if there's a lot of people have something
• 1:13:34
  that'll just like irritate them or if you have like a shirt on
• 1:13:37
  that's just not comfortable and you just keep focusing on it and
• 1:13:40
  it just builds that tension. I think can be the same thing
• 1:13:43
  with a horse where it's just this continual discomfort where
• 1:13:47
  you either kind of zone out, don't listen anymore, or it
• 1:13:50
  builds up that tension where it's like, you know, the head
• 1:13:53
  shaking and the trying to tell you like this doesn't feel good.
• 1:13:57
  Well, it's like cowboy boots and running shoes, same class, which
• 1:14:01
  degree? If I'm going to put my cowboy
• 1:14:02
  boots on and go run a mile, yeah, it's not going to be as
• 1:14:05
  comfortable if I put my run and tennis shoes on and go run a
• 1:14:07
  mile. So it's like, makes a lot of
• 1:14:09
  sense as we start really putting all these principles together
• 1:14:13
  and we start communicating in effective and efficient way that
• 1:14:16
  the horse would be used to in nature.
• 1:14:18
  Now they're going to do things for efficient, effective, long
• 1:14:21
  term sustainability and survive. You know, you put a bit in a
• 1:14:24
  horse's mouth and ride them for six hours straight or you put a
• 1:14:26
  bit less bridle on a horse and ride them for six hours straight
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  and see the difference. I mean, it's like just check,
• 1:14:32
  see what happens. Now, every changes need to be
• 1:14:34
  made in accordance with communication, you know, timing,
• 1:14:37
  the bow pressures, leases, all those things.
• 1:14:39
  But that's skill and experience developed over that that
• 1:14:42
  particular challenge over time, you know, and it's, it's just an
• 1:14:45
  interesting concept, we could call it to do those experiments.
• 1:14:50
  You know, it's like, let's just see.
• 1:14:51
  I mean, I've had horses, people will label them.
• 1:14:54
  We got to drug them to trim his hose.
• 1:14:56
  It's like, no, we don't. And I'll do this, I'll do this.
• 1:14:59
  I'll get these alignments and I'll ground time.
• 1:15:01
  And then I just start trimming his hose and he falls asleep.
• 1:15:04
  And then the lady, you know, videotaping and talking like
• 1:15:07
  it's National Geographic. Oh my gosh, it's a whole new
• 1:15:10
  man. But it's it's just.
• 1:15:12
  All I did is tweak those and. I and I think some of that's
• 1:15:14
  these rules that are embedded in us that things should be a
• 1:15:18
  certain way because we can't consider the possibility yet of
• 1:15:22
  think there may be being another way or different possibilities
• 1:15:25
  that we haven't considered. Yeah, and it's just a process,
• 1:15:28
  an interactive system of thinking, ultimately imagining.
• 1:15:32
  See, when we were kids, we'll circle back to the beginning of
• 1:15:34
  this podcast when we were little kids and we wanted to go ride a
• 1:15:37
  bike up that hill. We did it uninterrupted
• 1:15:41
  playtime. No one there to tell you, oh,
• 1:15:43
  you can't do that or you're going to get hurt.
• 1:15:45
  None of that. You went and you did it and you
• 1:15:46
  might have got hurt and you figured out how not to go get
• 1:15:48
  hurt. You know, that's the game of
• 1:15:49
  life. That's the game of life.
• 1:15:51
  How to benefit? How to not get hurt?
• 1:15:53
  You will get hurt sometimes. And that's how you know how to
• 1:15:57
  not get hurt. You know, contrast.
• 1:15:59
  That's why we came to Earth is to learn contrast.
• 1:16:02
  And we go into it's more spirituality.
• 1:16:03
  It's like why did our soul choose earth to come to?
• 1:16:07
  Why? And it's to learn and grow.
• 1:16:10
  And also I think going back, sorry, go ahead.
• 1:16:12
  And it's the best way on earth because there's so many
• 1:16:14
  contrasts, night and day, hot and cold, left and right, up and
• 1:16:17
  down, pleasure, pain, love. Hey, I mean, it's like, what do
• 1:16:21
  we really come here to learn? We learn, become to learn here
• 1:16:24
  how to love and how to be loved. And the only way that I see is
• 1:16:27
  the polar opposite of that is to release judgement because if I'm
• 1:16:30
  not judging, I'm not, I'm I'm going to be able to love that
• 1:16:34
  horse. He never judges.
• 1:16:36
  He doesn't care if you're black, white, rich, poor, doesn't care.
• 1:16:40
  But what does he care about? He cares how much we care.
• 1:16:43
  And the only way that we can prove it to him is we get to
• 1:16:45
  care about ourselves, present to the horse, observe feedback,
• 1:16:48
  make necessary changes to become better, and continue that
• 1:16:51
  feedback loop where the horse realizes what we are about and
• 1:16:55
  follows us willingly, not forced.
• 1:16:58
  And that is attracting. You'll hear these things, law of
• 1:17:01
  attraction, get thrown around a lot and that's what they're
• 1:17:03
  talking about. You, you attract what you
• 1:17:05
  become. That horse follows you because
• 1:17:08
  it's a benefit to him, because of what you're becoming.
• 1:17:11
  It's present. Expect.
• 1:17:13
  It's like breathing. You breathe in, you breathe out.
• 1:17:16
  It's a rhythm. It's breathe in, process it,
• 1:17:19
  breathe out. It's information you take in,
• 1:17:22
  you give. So it's a give receive.
• 1:17:25
  Horses are really good at giving, but they've got to
• 1:17:27
  receive too. It's a reciprocal feedback loop.
• 1:17:30
  It's not one way. You know, a lot of people do
• 1:17:32
  horsemanship one way, my way or the highway.
• 1:17:34
  I'm going to dominate you. I'm going to throw in
• 1:17:36
  information at you and I don't care what yours is coming back,
• 1:17:39
  do what I say. And it's like, well, that's not
• 1:17:42
  going to be long term sustainable and there's going to
• 1:17:43
  be undesirable results from that.
• 1:17:45
  And generally it's bucking Biden bolting or kicking.
• 1:17:47
  And I've made a lot of money off those type of people.
• 1:17:50
  But it's like I would rather help them never get there.
• 1:17:53
  Don't go there. We can calibrate this from the
• 1:17:55
  day one. This way none of my horses buck.
• 1:17:58
  And it's like somebody asked me one time, do they buck?
• 1:18:01
  I said, well, one of them started out doing that, but I
• 1:18:03
  got him from some people that he was, he was doing that, but
• 1:18:06
  never with me. He never did it again.
• 1:18:07
  And it's like, why? Well, I never showed him how to
• 1:18:10
  do it. I never caused an interruption
• 1:18:12
  or an obstruction or an aversion in him to create that result.
• 1:18:16
  You know, the cause and effect of that, you know, calibrated
• 1:18:19
  his thinking, calibrate his actions to form habits to create
• 1:18:23
  the character in the horse to where he's like, that's waste of
• 1:18:26
  energy. It's not long term sustainable.
• 1:18:28
  It won't work. There's no reason to do it.
• 1:18:31
  It'd be like, it'd be like just smashing your hand with a
• 1:18:34
  hammer. Why would you do that?
• 1:18:35
  You know, You know the consequence of it.
• 1:18:37
  So the horse is like, why would I buck?
• 1:18:39
  It's energy. Yeah.
• 1:18:41
  And I have no desire to do that. It's like they'll run no
• 1:18:44
  problem, but their their thought processes don't change from a
• 1:18:48
  walk drop to a canner. They don't.
• 1:18:49
  It's all the same. The same thought energy is there
• 1:18:52
  and then they can sustain and move through that seamlessly.
• 1:18:56
  It's not a radical chaotic, it's in order and that's the purpose.
• 1:18:59
  That's what horsemanship is about.
• 1:19:01
  Take something out of order and put it in order.
• 1:19:03
  Life's about. Creating that balance and
• 1:19:05
  alignment and harmony. Yeah, I'd like to, I'd like to
• 1:19:08
  have some sort of an interactive session with other people, like
• 1:19:11
  maybe based on this podcast that they listen to and write in with
• 1:19:15
  some specifics, you know, on, on anything.
• 1:19:18
  I've coached so many different people and so many walks of
• 1:19:20
  life. I've watched horsemanship
• 1:19:22
  transition them from where they wanted to be to where they where
• 1:19:25
  they go. But they were the guide of doing
• 1:19:28
  they they didn't, I couldn't do their push ups for them.
• 1:19:30
  The horse couldn't even do the push ups for them.
• 1:19:32
  But it's like, wow, they actually transitioned in in one
• 1:19:35
  particular area of their life. So I'll just touch on a few that
• 1:19:38
  we've already touched on. But like relationships, you
• 1:19:41
  know, I've watched horsemanship take a relationship on the brink
• 1:19:44
  of divorce and 180 it back into no divorce.
• 1:19:48
  And I've seen I've seen all different degrees of that.
• 1:19:50
  I've seen like 30 year marriages falling apart.
• 1:19:53
  Horsemanship comes into play for for the, the male, the man.
• 1:19:57
  And then they go back and then they they buy a beach house
• 1:20:00
  together and they're like high school sweethearts again.
• 1:20:02
  And they renewed their whole relationship.
• 1:20:05
  And the report back is man, it's better than it ever was just
• 1:20:09
  from a few simple course corrections that I learned in
• 1:20:13
  horsemanship. And I'm like, wow, is that
• 1:20:15
  efficient and that effective? I mean, it blows my mind
• 1:20:17
  sometimes, but then you see it again and again and again and
• 1:20:20
  again and it's like. This.
• 1:20:22
  This, this is something very, very powerful, but not, not a
• 1:20:27
  lot of people know about it. I mean, it's actually not a
• 1:20:30
  secret. It's just that very few people
• 1:20:34
  have tapped into on this level and teach it and practice it.
• 1:20:40
  And that's what I love about your podcast, that we get to
• 1:20:43
  share this with people so that they can dive in.
• 1:20:45
  Yeah, start. Exploring because.
• 1:20:47
  Yeah, like you say, it's not something that you can really,
• 1:20:50
  you can't experience it virtually.
• 1:20:52
  You know, you can't watch someone do it and they're like,
• 1:20:54
  OK, I get that. I understand that concept.
• 1:20:56
  It's something that really has to be felt and.
• 1:21:00
  And it's such a. Feeling that transition.
• 1:21:02
  The video isn't. Yeah, because horsemanship is
• 1:21:05
  vast. It's deep and it's wide and
• 1:21:09
  traditional training practices have really inhibited people's
• 1:21:13
  understanding to access this. Information.
• 1:21:16
  I think the cool thing about our time now is we have the the time
• 1:21:19
  and the space to utilize horses in a different way.
• 1:21:22
  Like before, they were often a tool and now it's like we can we
• 1:21:26
  can utilize them for what we need in the world right now,
• 1:21:29
  which I think a lot of that is that mental clarity and
• 1:21:32
  rebalancing. Guide us back to nature where we
• 1:21:34
  we are in nature when we step away and see some people were
• 1:21:39
  programmed and conditioned to step away and through ignorance
• 1:21:43
  or naive, they stay there. But we can have a choice today.
• 1:21:47
  We can say, wait a minute, I want to change my whole life.
• 1:21:51
  I want to change the way I think.
• 1:21:52
  I want to change the way I feel. I want to change the way I
• 1:21:54
  produce. I want to change.
• 1:21:56
  And horsemanship is like a it's a mantra for me.
• 1:21:59
  It's it's something I can go to and recalibrate.
• 1:22:02
  It's like a daily reset ritual, and you can look at it as an
• 1:22:05
  interactive system to make necessary changes within to
• 1:22:09
  present out for an actual physical manifestation of
• 1:22:12
  whatever it is you want. Yeah, yeah, there's something
• 1:22:15
  cool about how they give you the space to do that.
• 1:22:18
  Being with them kind of put you in a different plane, so to
• 1:22:21
  speak. Well, it's so not like what
• 1:22:24
  society is. You know, we got, we got away
• 1:22:26
  from being healthy because we jump in a car and drive
• 1:22:29
  everywhere. Well, there's no interaction
• 1:22:31
  with a car. I guess we could argue that, you
• 1:22:34
  know, it's like, yeah, you got to turn the steering wheel or
• 1:22:36
  you run into the ditch. It's.
• 1:22:38
  Pretty mindless. You can also drive from one
• 1:22:40
  place to another without even thinking about it, you know?
• 1:22:43
  That subconscious is a very powerful thing and people that
• 1:22:46
  don't understand it. Horsemanship will give you a
• 1:22:48
  deep understanding of subconscious and conscious
• 1:22:51
  awareness. Consciously, you learned how to
• 1:22:53
  drive a car, to train your subconscious to drive that car
• 1:22:56
  when you weren't paying attention.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah, there is that. But it's such a disconnect
• 1:23:00
  whenever you look at the health benefits of being in nature and
• 1:23:03
  actually moving and doing with a horse.
• 1:23:06
  And then then you can go go through all areas of the life,
• 1:23:09
  you know, like, you know, it's, it's material things that are
• 1:23:12
  going to bring happiness. That's what we've been
• 1:23:14
  advertised to through commercialization.
• 1:23:17
  And it's like, I don't want that and it does nothing for me.
• 1:23:20
  But but how do I know that I had to go through it?
• 1:23:23
  Speak about when we're talking about wealth, is it the
• 1:23:25
  tangible, physical things in front of us, or is it a way that
• 1:23:28
  we feel and interact with our world?
• 1:23:30
  Well, it's like the biblical verse of, you know, you store
• 1:23:33
  your things up in heaven that a moth can't eat or that a rust
• 1:23:37
  that can't rust or that someone can't break in and steal.
• 1:23:40
  Well, if we're talking about, you know, going within, you know
• 1:23:43
  yourself where it's talked of in the new covenant, where it says
• 1:23:47
  the Kingdom of our Creator is within you.
• 1:23:50
  Well, you go within and then as above, so below that that the
• 1:23:54
  heaven, your mind, what do you want to store there?
• 1:23:57
  Do you want to store happiness? Do you want to store peace,
• 1:24:00
  tranquility, kindness? I mean, what do you want to
• 1:24:03
  store? And then the only way a person
• 1:24:05
  could steal it is if you give it to them, they can't take it.
• 1:24:08
  It's not going to rust. A moth can't eat it.
• 1:24:10
  So, you know, you look at these, look at these correspondence in
• 1:24:14
  these things, you know, these ancient texts, you know, the
• 1:24:17
  Bible, it's been around a long time and it came from a lot of
• 1:24:20
  other ancient texts. So it's like, well, that's been
• 1:24:22
  here this long, there's got to be some kind of wisdom to it.
• 1:24:25
  So then what can I look at it not literally and read it and
• 1:24:29
  then just ponder on it and then go through life and look at it
• 1:24:32
  as like, OK, as in psychological thinking, what can I store up in
• 1:24:37
  myself that no one could steal or I'd have to give it away?
• 1:24:41
  You know, someone makes me mad. Yeah, well, they they can't.
• 1:24:44
  They don't have that power unless I give them that power.
• 1:24:47
  And then my energy changed based on what they present.
• 1:24:50
  And how we perceived it in the place we gave it in our life.
• 1:24:54
  Yeah. And so it's, it goes into inner
• 1:24:56
  controlling energies and when we can transmute energy.
• 1:24:59
  So, so it's OK to get mad. Somebody makes me mad, We'll
• 1:25:02
  just say it like that. Well, I can take that
• 1:25:04
  information and see what triggers me and realize, oh,
• 1:25:07
  this is what I get to learn how not to get mad at that, you
• 1:25:10
  know, whether it's what they did or did not do that triggered me
• 1:25:14
  emotion. And then that emotion motivated
• 1:25:16
  my thought of I need to do XY or Z.
• 1:25:19
  Well, that's the decision or choice.
• 1:25:21
  It's like, well, I could retaliate or I could not, or I
• 1:25:24
  could learn from this and then not let the next experience or
• 1:25:28
  event trigger me into being met. It's like a horse.
• 1:25:32
  Each event that we go through, I look at it as a learning
• 1:25:35
  opportunity. Whenever I get a brand new horse
• 1:25:38
  that I'm training for someone and I've got to put the first
• 1:25:40
  ride on and then I got to take them out and then I got to
• 1:25:43
  expose them to events and they get they get off center, they
• 1:25:46
  get fear, they get scared. Well, then that's an opportunity
• 1:25:49
  for me to present to them to not be.
• 1:25:51
  And then you know, what triggered their emotion and
• 1:25:54
  motivated their thoughts to run, you know, whatever it is.
• 1:25:57
  Then I get an opportunity to create the horse that I want and
• 1:26:01
  character that I want to where the next event has little to no
• 1:26:04
  effect. The horse is aware of the trash
• 1:26:06
  truck, but I've already communicated to him that we can
• 1:26:08
  program and condition you, so to speak, into thinking
• 1:26:12
  unrestricted in the body response.
• 1:26:14
  No tension, the heart rate maintains, the breathing
• 1:26:17
  maintains and rhythm and vibrational frequency.
• 1:26:19
  And then we have a feedback loop to where outside influences have
• 1:26:22
  little to no. Creates a different reality.
• 1:26:26
  Yes, and that we can do that for ourselves away from the horse to
• 1:26:30
  manifest the the reality we want.
• 1:26:33
  So I came up with a new phrase, actually, you've heard it
• 1:26:37
  before, but I added something to it.
• 1:26:38
  So where attention goes, energy flows, but reality grows.
• 1:26:42
  That's the way it works. I like it.
• 1:26:44
  If we're focusing on what we don't want, we'll get it.
• 1:26:47
  If your horse is steering to the left and you're like don't go to
• 1:26:49
  the left, you're going to get going to the left.
• 1:26:51
  Don't. Be scared.
• 1:26:53
  If you say, but if you change your thoughts to your horses
• 1:26:56
  going to the left, I'd like to ask you to go to the right.
• 1:26:58
  You focused on what you wanted, not on what you didn't want.
• 1:27:01
  And you got what you want. And it and people that have
• 1:27:04
  horses get to see this so fast in cause and effect where they
• 1:27:07
  can do it away from the horse in real life.
• 1:27:09
  Like I don't want to focus on being poor.
• 1:27:13
  I focus on being wealthy, you know, and it's for health.
• 1:27:16
  I don't want to focus on being unhealthy.
• 1:27:19
  I don't want to focus on what I don't want to I want.
• 1:27:21
  To focus on what we shouldn't, we do a lot.
• 1:27:22
  We definitely focus on the on the negatives, on the things
• 1:27:25
  we're worried about or we don't want to come to pass and change.
• 1:27:29
  It's a distraction. It's a distraction when a horse,
• 1:27:32
  I'm asking him a question and he kicks out at me.
• 1:27:34
  This has been years, you know, I go to different places, but I
• 1:27:37
  would be aware of the horse kicking out of me.
• 1:27:39
  But I'm focusing on how well he's moving in the direction I
• 1:27:41
  asked him. And another person that's not at
• 1:27:44
  the level, they're like, oh, I would have gave up.
• 1:27:46
  I would have been scared. I would have stopped.
• 1:27:49
  You know, they're giving me their feedback of what they just
• 1:27:51
  saw happen. And I was like, yeah, but I
• 1:27:52
  don't focus on what I don't want.
• 1:27:54
  I focus on what I do want. And the stuff I don't want falls
• 1:27:56
  away. It's just that it's just that
• 1:27:57
  formula that works. Horses are the same way.
• 1:28:00
  They don't sit and dwell on what they don't want.
• 1:28:02
  They focus on what they do want. And then we can learn from that
• 1:28:05
  and harmonize with it, agree with it.
• 1:28:08
  And then that's that's just the way it works.
• 1:28:10
  I mean, I've kind of got into this habit of saying it's just
• 1:28:13
  that simple. I know you say that all the
• 1:28:15
  time. It's so simple.
• 1:28:16
  I'm like one word. It's simple, you know, when you
• 1:28:19
  walk, when you're like through that.
• 1:28:21
  But yeah, for some people it's like you're it's, you know,
• 1:28:25
  calculus. It's so simple, but it's like
• 1:28:27
  I'm still trying to figure out addition and subtraction down
• 1:28:30
  here. So yeah.
• 1:28:31
  But but yeah, lots of really cool possibilities.
• 1:28:35
  Yeah, I think that's a good note to wrap up on, mostly because I
• 1:28:38
  have to go get my kids really soon, but.
• 1:28:40
  OK, well, if anybody wants the information on that tropical
• 1:28:44
  island adventure clinic, yeah, I do.
• 1:28:45
  Apply for that. Where should they find it?
• 1:28:48
  Justin Justin Dunn horsemanship.com or American
• 1:28:53
  mustangschool.com and I set up a page in my website.
• 1:28:56
  It's Tropical Horsemanship Adventure Clinic gives
• 1:28:59
  information and then on this, if you're watching on this podcast,
• 1:29:03
  if you go to that page and you have questions, let me know.
• 1:29:06
  Shoot me an e-mail, be happy to answer.
• 1:29:08
  Yeah, sounds like it's going to be incredible. 3 days on an
• 1:29:11
  island with horses? That's pretty hard to.
• 1:29:15
  Beat well the caliber of people that are that are that are
• 1:29:18
  already coming to that and then are already there when you
• 1:29:20
  surround yourself with those type individuals, you start
• 1:29:22
  vibrating at their frequency and that's a beautiful thing.
• 1:29:25
  So it's like you want to start thinking in a way you're going
• 1:29:28
  to start attracting different people yeah you start thinking
• 1:29:32
  higher you're going to attract higher.
• 1:29:34
  You start thinking in a way for your horse.
• 1:29:36
  You're going to start tracking that for your horse because
• 1:29:37
  remember, you attract what you become that that's, that's you
• 1:29:41
  know, I've sat on, I've sat in meetings with high caliber
• 1:29:44
  people and I'm, I literally look inward and go, man, how did I
• 1:29:48
  get here with all you guys? I think that and then it's, it's
• 1:29:51
  comforting to know it's like, well, because I became this and
• 1:29:54
  it's, it's just that simple. It's true, whether we like it or
• 1:29:57
  not, we can learn about ourselves not just by how the
• 1:30:00
  horses react, but also by our surroundings and what we've
• 1:30:03
  created in our life. Definitely some clues for us to
• 1:30:06
  hone in on to figure out where maybe we can focus on to create
• 1:30:10
  the life that we really want. So yeah.
• 1:30:13
  Yeah, well, I hope you took good notes so we can have more
• 1:30:15
  podcasts and see, at least doing these are fun.
• 1:30:18
  Let's do it any well, almost anytime, like anytime between
• 1:30:22
  all the other things that we're doing.
• 1:30:23
  But yeah, it's always good to get together and chat about
• 1:30:26
  horses and all the lessons that they teach now and life, right?
• 1:30:30
  Because yeah, ultimately that's definitely, definitely the piece
• 1:30:34
  that they touch on is changing our lives.
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  Man, I figured I gotta figure out.
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  I gotta figure out the game of life.
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  I figured that out and I might as well have horses to help me
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  do it. It's pretty.
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  Awesome. It's just, it's a win, win.
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  It's like it just makes it all. There's a Mustang jump.
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  There's something else. All right, well.
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