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- 0:00All right, we are live. What's up, everybody?
- 0:01Charlie Marlowe here. I'm going to get right to it.
- 0:04You see the headline, The NASCAR lawsuit is officially bananas as
- 0:10they get nasty in court today. They got nasty.
- 0:13Let me tell you, I was in my car and I started to see some of
- 0:17these notifications from Max. So I obviously was not at this
- 0:22courtroom appearance. I'm out here an hour northwest
- 0:26of Saint Louis right now, so I'm going to go right to X and I'm
- 0:30going to read from some of the reporters that were there what
- 0:34they've posted and let's get right to it.
- 0:37The tweet I saw that piqued my interest the most from Bob
- 0:42Pockers, Fox Sports, and by the way, all the credit to all these
- 0:45reporters and go read all of their articles and everything
- 0:48they're posting online. So here, this is from Bob
- 0:51Pockers. It's from 2:40 about an hour
- 0:54ago. Bob Hockers says lots of spice
- 0:58in courtroom today, including Michael Jordan.
- 1:01Michael Jordan, obviously the owner of 2311 racing, Michael
- 1:05Jordan calling JGR Joe Gibbs Racing.
- 1:09You just have F blank, blank, blank.
- 1:12So I'm guessing that's effers in 2311.
- 1:16Text chain for signing charters and other teams.
- 1:20The P word basically P doesn't say the rest.
- 1:24I think you know what that word is.
- 1:25I think we know F&P, right? Denny Hamlin in a text said his
- 1:31quote, despise of the France family runs deep.
- 1:35How about that? And so Bob Pacris also tweeting
- 1:39when the hearing ended and he says no decision until next week
- 1:43on whether 2311 and front row can be chartered the rest of the
- 1:48year and whether NASCAR can sell their charters before the
- 1:52December trial. So everybody that was there,
- 1:56we're talking, all these reporters, Bob Pockrus, Dustin
- 2:00Long from NBC, our guy Matt Weaver who contributes on this
- 2:04channel, Jeff Glock, they were all there.
- 2:07They're all tweeting up a storm. They're all writing their
- 2:09articles, They're all doing their podcast and all that.
- 2:11So all the credit to them. Check them out.
- 2:14But while we're live here on YouTube, I'm just going to
- 2:16scroll through some of the things that they also said.
- 2:19So Bob Pockras again says also revealed in court today, if
- 2:23NASCAR sells one of the charters that 2311 in front row bought
- 2:28from Stewart Haas Racing 2311 in front row would get reimbursed
- 2:33for what they paid for them. OK.
- 2:37And apparently the judge was admonishing, warning both NASCAR
- 2:43and the teams for how hot it got.
- 2:47All kinds of crazy statements. Here's Bob Parker again.
- 2:50The judge also had some strong statements.
- 2:52Quote, if either party feels certain they're going to win,
- 2:56they're wrong. End Quote.
- 2:59Also that there are real disputes of fact.
- 3:02So while they can file motions for summary judgement, this case
- 3:05will go to trial if no settlement.
- 3:08And remember, this trial scheduled for December.
- 3:11Got a lot of people watching here live on YouTube. 169 of
- 3:15you. Thank you for joining me,
- 3:17Charlie Marlowe here. We'll get to your questions and
- 3:20the chat in just a second. And somebody saying who won?
- 3:25This isn't the trial. The trial's coming up in
- 3:27December. This was just a preliminary
- 3:29hearing on the injunction. So we'll go back to X here.
- 3:33Here's another spicy one that I read, Bob Parker's.
- 3:38Bob Parker's stating there was also text chain of NASCAR
- 3:42executives and the Francis after a meeting over a draft of
- 3:47charter agreement where Steve O'Donnell characterized it as
- 3:50AF. The teams that would bring the
- 3:54sport back to southern roots, the tiny sport of 1996.
- 3:59So this is what happens here when you have discovery in
- 4:02court, all of these text chains between 2311 racing between the
- 4:07teams, all of these text chains, all these emails from NASCAR,
- 4:11they're all coming out and there's some bad blood and it it
- 4:14sure seems like doesn't seem like it there is.
- 4:16There's a lot of nasty stuff, nasty stuff in this discovery.
- 4:21Michael Jordan and and his attorney Jeffrey Kessler.
- 4:25They also had a quick statement. You can go to XI saw that Matt
- 4:29Weaver, our guy posted that. It's about a minute and a half
- 4:31video where Michael Jordan straight up said like we're
- 4:34going down with the fire when when he joined NASCAR and he's
- 4:37been a fan of the sport forever. They want they want this sport
- 4:41to be healthy for the teams and even though they made a
- 4:45reasonable profit their company, they want the sport to continue
- 4:49to grow and be better for teams. So you can go and check out that
- 4:52video on X as well. It's about a minute and a half.
- 4:55All right, couple more from Bob Parker's here.
- 4:57Before I jump around, let's see what else do we got here.
- 5:01So I told you about the text chain with NASCAR.
- 5:04I told you about the text chain with 2311 racing.
- 5:08And here we go. Also from Bob Parker's judge
- 5:11also warned everyone today that anything that is used as
- 5:14evidence in trial will be public.
- 5:17He also indicated he didn't want to rule on likelihood of success
- 5:21in the case at this point and encourage them to settle on the
- 5:24injunction issue before he makes a decision next week.
- 5:27Remember, today's hearing was about 2311 racing Front Row
- 5:33Motorsports. They want that injunction once
- 5:35again so they can run as chartered teams for the rest of
- 5:382025. All right, let's check out what
- 5:42Jeff Gluck had to say. Bob Parker does a great job.
- 5:46Obviously, Jeff Gluck, we'll call him our colleague with
- 5:50Dirty MO Media. He's always great covering
- 5:52everything. Let's see.
- 5:55Jeff Gluck says preliminary injunction hearing has
- 5:57concluded. Ruling is next week.
- 5:59Hearing was explosive and contentious.
- 6:02More details to come. So check him out on the
- 6:04Athletic, but you'll want to read everything you can about
- 6:08this one. Let's see.
- 6:11And so this, this hearing took place about 3 hours, 3-4 hours
- 6:16ago. So they let out and now you're
- 6:19hearing all of the, the statements and all that.
- 6:21Toby Christie's another guy who's very good and he's
- 6:25contributed on the Kenny Wallace YouTube channel before.
- 6:27Let's see what he has to say. He said this is an hour or so
- 6:30ago, just got out of the injunction hearing between
- 6:33NASCAR and 2311 front row. And all I can say is, oh, boy,
- 6:40let's see. He says a lot of private
- 6:42internal chats between NASCAR execs and also between 2311
- 6:46leadership. Included were some eyebrow
- 6:48raising comments. Judge Bell says an order will
- 6:51come next week. But he cautioned both sides that
- 6:54he will not put up with how much sparring they did in court today
- 6:57at the jury trial in December. Again, this is all from Toby
- 7:01Christie's ex feed. Go check out all of his work.
- 7:05He does a great job. Judge Bell also warned that
- 7:08there is a lot of redacted components in the filings.
- 7:11And if this goes to trial, those will all be unredacted,
- 7:15including the Golden Code, which attorney Jeffrey Kessler.
- 7:19Remember, Jeffrey Kessler is the attorney for the teams 2311
- 7:23Racing and Front Row Motorsports.
- 7:26Jeffrey Kessler says was NASCAR's plan to continue
- 7:29operating cars themselves without team owners, the Golden
- 7:33Code. So apparently there's some
- 7:36redacted text where NASCAR actually discussed operating the
- 7:40cars, operating the sport without the team owners just
- 7:44doing it all themselves. And I read this earlier from Bob
- 7:47Pockers, but let's see. Let's see who else is climbing
- 7:50back on here. We got 230 of you watching live.
- 7:54Appreciate that. Just a crazy courtroom hearing
- 7:58today. And this is worth repeating.
- 8:01I said it earlier, but I'll say it again.
- 8:03All the reporters have have quoted this one.
- 8:06Internally, Michael Jordan called Joe Gibbs Racing Effers
- 8:11Effers for accepting the charter deal and called the other teams
- 8:16the P word. It rhymes with wussies.
- 8:20I think you know what it is. And according to internal NASCAR
- 8:24documents, the charter agreement, which went into
- 8:26effect for 2025 was initially called the F the teams offer.
- 8:32F the teams offer. OK, so let's see.
- 8:37I'm just hopping around here. All these reporters do a great
- 8:40job. So I'm I'm reading their work,
- 8:42by the way. So check out Matt Weaver, Toby
- 8:45Christie, Jeff Gluck, Dustin Long, Bob Pockras.
- 8:48Matt Weaver contributes on our channel here.
- 8:50So I'll go to his feed now. He's doing a report right now on
- 8:55X Denny Hamlin tweets out. My lawyers said don't tweet, so
- 9:01this is me not doing that. Hope everyone had a great day.
- 9:04That's from Denny Hamlin. My lawyer said don't tweet, so
- 9:07this is me not doing that. Hope everyone had a great day.
- 9:11Matt Weaver says when court let out, it's not an understatement
- 9:15to say the gloves have come off and the mutual animosity and
- 9:18bitterness from both parties spilled over today to prove
- 9:22likelihood of success. Oh man, this is long. 2311 in
- 9:26front row made public the redacted smoking gun documents
- 9:29text chains from NASCAR leadership like France Kennedy,
- 9:33France Prime, TV partners O'Donnell and Phelps in which
- 9:37they argued if a 2024 meeting was productive or insanity.
- 9:42Prime said sarcastically. Here's a bit more money and F
- 9:46off on everything else was a bold strategy and Phelps said
- 9:51zero wins for the team. This is from Matt Weaver.
- 9:53At one point Phelps typed give them the contract, pick a date
- 10:00and sign it or lose. Their charters team showed
- 10:03documents that suggested NASCAR worked to head off an attempt
- 10:07that teams would start their own copycat series and they would
- 10:10need the lock down Speedway Motorsports to prevent a
- 10:13relationship. NASCAR has gold codes to run the
- 10:16Cup series and the interpretation of 2311 in front
- 10:19row without teams and they control everything.
- 10:24Dang. In response, NASCAR said they
- 10:25would lean on trucks and Xfinity teams but 2311 in front row
- 10:29adamant they want to own everything.
- 10:32Curtis Polk said in attacks that Cup racing as boring as S word
- 10:38boring as she it. I watched that race past night
- 10:41and uh, that was painful to watch.
- 10:44Michael Jordan and Curtis Polk, he's the co-owner of 2311,
- 10:47confirmed in affidavits that they've made modest profits.
- 10:50In a text, Denny Hamlin said, and I read this earlier, my
- 10:53despise for the France family runs deep man.
- 10:58Holy smokes. Holy smokes.
- 11:02Michael Jordan responded to the news that Joe Gibbs signed the
- 11:04charter deal Effers and that teams are going to regret not
- 11:08supporting us. You pee words who Dang, and I'm
- 11:14reading all this live right now with you guys.
- 11:17So this is shocking to me. This is crazy.
- 11:20Let's go to Dustin long. All these guys do a great job.
- 11:23They're all reporting on the same thing.
- 11:25They all heard the same stuff. Let's see Dustin Long NBC Sports
- 11:30says judge also admonished both sides 2311 racing front row
- 11:33versus NASCAR about how much information is sealed and said,
- 11:36quote, this is going to be an open trial trial scheduled for
- 11:40December 1st. Bang, there you go.
- 11:44It got crazy in there. So 341 of you watching live.
- 11:48I appreciate that it got nasty in court as you can tell from
- 11:54everything I just read. Let's check YouTube real quick.
- 11:59Give me a second. I just want to see how many of
- 12:01you guys are are on right now. Pretty good crowd.
- 12:05Pretty good crowd we got. Let's see how many 643 total
- 12:12viewers we got 360 right now. OK, let's go to the chat.
- 12:15A lot of you guys. Good afternoon, Kenny.
- 12:19No, it's Charlie. I'm sorry.
- 12:21I'm. I'm sure Kenny's gonna comment
- 12:23on this, whether it's tonight or tomorrow for coffee with Kenny.
- 12:27Paul Werner. Hello, Charlie.
- 12:28Thanks for informing us. Jeffrey King says, Dang, that's
- 12:33what I'm saying. Reading all that.
- 12:36Jeffrey King, I heard Jordan had a record with suing people and
- 12:38winning money. So there is a history with
- 12:40Jordan. Yes, Michael Jordan also has
- 12:42deep pockets. Chris Shrum says F Michael
- 12:45Jordan, how about that? What I didn't understand is how
- 12:49can NASCAR sell the teams getting Hamlin and the other
- 12:52team when NASCAR don't own the teams?
- 12:55Selling the charters is what NASCAR is talking about.
- 12:58Remember, there's not franchises, there's charters.
- 13:02Let's see, Colby Cheesy says my brother-in-law are on different
- 13:08sides. He says Denny Hamlin is just
- 13:10greedy, being greedy and I think NASCAR is operating as an unfair
- 13:14monopoly. We got a family going after it.
- 13:19Kevin says how can they get someone's text chains?
- 13:22That's bullshit. This is going to be ugly.
- 13:25This is what Discovery is. You got text, you got emails.
- 13:28There's a lot of stuff. Jeffrey King, I stand with
- 13:32NASCAR 2311 is greedy. NASCAR needs the teams.
- 13:38The teams don't need NASCAR. I hope NASCAR wins.
- 13:41Front row was always a back marker team 10 or more years
- 13:45ago. Josh Eubanks, NASCAR, they're
- 13:48the ones that are greedy. No doubt about it.
- 13:52Not a lawyer or anything close. In my opinion.
- 13:54There weren't any issues before MJ came on board.
- 13:58Michael Jordan came into the sport.
- 14:01There you go. B Dobbs says NASCAR makes
- 14:05billions and where is it going? That's right.
- 14:07The teams want a little more of that cash.
- 14:10John Pi stand with 2311 in front row, 100%.
- 14:13NASCAR is a monopoly, and the fans in the France family know
- 14:16it. Let's see.
- 14:20Aaron Hutchins says This is why Jordan didn't let off the gas.
- 14:23Yeah, they, they knew all this discovery, all these texts, all
- 14:26these emails, both sides got them in their back pocket,
- 14:30right? They got a lot of dirt on each
- 14:31other. Let's see because Jordan's a
- 14:34celeb he gets away with what I call the judge a Dick and get
- 14:39contempt charges. LOLWTF.
- 14:42Let's see a lot of comments. I'm going to go down.
- 14:44I'm not going to go to read all your guys comments.
- 14:47I appreciate you guys commenting though.
- 14:50Let's see if NASCAR gets the Charters Junior Motorsports.
- 14:54I bet we'll get one or two of them.
- 14:57No one is going to win this. It's ugly for sure.
- 15:00Valhalla Motors Tim Richmond tried to sue NASCAR in 1988 and
- 15:05he lost. How can Jordan talk with that
- 15:08foul language in court? I called the judge AD word and
- 15:13got contempt charges. So if you heard what I said
- 15:16about Michael Jordan calling JGR, what he said after them, he
- 15:21called the other teams. The P word rhymes with wussies.
- 15:25These were from texts. He didn't he didn't say this in
- 15:28court. From what I from what I'm
- 15:30understanding here, I wasn't there, but they're reading text,
- 15:33change emails, all these documents.
- 15:38Let's see. Les Toyotas in the field is fine
- 15:41with me. Don't bite the hand that feeds
- 15:42you. All right?
- 15:45Aaron Hutchins. Yup.
- 15:46This is what 2311 wanted. We will see just how screwed up
- 15:49and what secrets NASCAR has been hiding.
- 15:53Gonna be blanking nuts, gonna be knocking futs come December.
- 16:02And I love to swear. Don't have your own.
- 16:04I would use all the swear words. But we're trying to make some
- 16:06cash here on YouTube. OK?
- 16:07So that's why we don't swear. All right?
- 16:09We're just trying to make some money.
- 16:10That's all we're doing. We're trying to run a business,
- 16:12baby. Just like NASCAR, just like
- 16:142311. At this point, I don't think a
- 16:19settlement will ever happen. I think that's fair to say.
- 16:22These these folks do not like each other.
- 16:25The dirt Late models are going to win this.
- 16:27How about that? Are there any athletes who are
- 16:30making less money now than they were 20 years ago?
- 16:32That is a good point. That's why I side with the teams
- 16:36in this whole deal. And that's what I've said all
- 16:38along. Name me another sport where the
- 16:40athletes are making less than they did years ago.
- 16:44I'm pretty sure NASCAR's the only one is hockey.
- 16:47Is hockey close? Maybe close.
- 16:50We'll see. Let's see.
- 16:53Brian Mccorchuk says you mess with the bull, you're going to
- 16:57get the horns. Ain't that the truth, Alex
- 17:00Buchanan, What 2311 Front Row Motorsports are doing is a major
- 17:04mistake. Let's see.
- 17:09You ain't got to explain it to us, bud.
- 17:11Get your money. Talking about talking about not
- 17:14swearing on YouTube. All good.
- 17:18All right, let's see what's wild.
- 17:21It was alleged NASCAR refused to sell Karl Long a charter because
- 17:24they wanted to give it to 2311. Man, if that's true, I bet the
- 17:27Francis are kicking themselves. Loli think NASCAR is trying to
- 17:31make the Cup cars boring. This has messed Reddick up.
- 17:37Reddick not having a great season.
- 17:39That's from Jeffrey King. Still have a lot of you watching
- 17:43live and I appreciate that. 385 of you watching live.
- 17:49We've been going for about 18 minutes here and let's go back
- 17:52one more time and just kind of, I think this is the most
- 17:55interesting part, the most interesting part of this.
- 18:00And I'll go back to Bob Pockrus, Matt Weaver, what I was reading
- 18:03from Matt Weaver's timeline, he does a great job.
- 18:08But the tweet where Michael Jordan's going off on folks is
- 18:12pretty Dang good. So let me find it for you one
- 18:15more time. Let me find it for you one more
- 18:18time. Just bear with me.
- 18:20Here it is. Lots of spice in the courtroom
- 18:22today, including Michael Jordan calling Joe Gibbs Racing Effers
- 18:26in 2311 text chain for signing charters and other teams.
- 18:29The P word rhymes with wussies. Denny Hamlin in a text said his
- 18:33quote, despise of the France family runs deep.
- 18:37How about that? So there you go.
- 18:39All right, I'm not going to go super long on this.
- 18:41I always say this. Really appreciate 396 of you
- 18:45guys watching right now. Let's see.
- 18:48Timber A says Reddick had seemed concerned about more than
- 18:52performance lately. That's that's fair.
- 18:55I don't know. I don't know if that's affecting
- 18:56because look, Bubba Wallace, Bubba Wallace is having a heck
- 18:59of a year. He's getting better at 2311.
- 19:02And wouldn't you think that he's also in the same boat as Tyler
- 19:05Reddick, OK. And Pastel Ninja K says thanks
- 19:11to Matt, Bob, Jeff and Jordan, all of those who covered this.
- 19:13I agree. Those guys all do a great job.
- 19:15OK, we're closing it on 20 minutes.
- 19:17I don't wanna get too long. I'm actually out here, out here
- 19:21at the lake with my son. But I saw this and I go.
- 19:23We have to go live 'cause this stuff is just absolutely crazy
- 19:26right now. So thank you all for watching.
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- 19:33Have a great Labor Day weekend, everybody.
- 19:36Charlie Marlowe signing off. Love you all.
- 19:39And I'll read this from Duron. He says Duron or Darren Shank
- 19:45says take care, my friend. Great broadcast as always.
- 19:48Thank you. Thank you very much.
- 19:50Appreciate that, Duron or Darren and all right, take care.
- 19:56I'm going to wait one more second because now we're at 20
- 19:58minutes. There you go.
- 19:59See you guys. This was crazy, crazy in the
- 20:02courtroom today. Take care.