Latest / Ron Verb / Thursday 6pm hour 06/18/26
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- 0:00Speaker 1: And it is here on a Thursday, June 18th edition,
- 0:03Speaker 1: 77 Degrees, NewsRadio 570 WQEN, on a glorious Thursday evening. Guardians,
- 0:09Speaker 1: big winners in an afternoon game today. And John Arnold,
- 0:14Speaker 1: hello there.
- 0:14Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, how are you?
- 0:17Speaker 1: I am doing well. Always looking forward to talking with
- 0:19Speaker 1: John Arnold here on NewsRadio 570 WQEN. Talk a little
- 0:23Speaker 1: bit about the markets and the economy and so much more.
- 0:27Speaker 1: Read that opening statement that you always have, John, or
- 0:30Speaker 1: whatever that thing is that you do.
- 0:33Speaker 2: Hey, I'm going to do it ad lib today because
- 0:36Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me. I've been
- 0:38Speaker 2: so overwhelmed with the hedge fund stuff.
- 0:41Speaker 1: Well, before you do that, tell me a little bit
- 0:43Speaker 1: about that. When you say overwhelmed, overwhelmed in a good
- 0:46Speaker 1: way or watching it, describe overwhelmed to me.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Well, when I owned the firm before Rockport opened, I
- 0:55Speaker 2: had a big staff. not big, but sizable for a
- 0:59Speaker 2: one man show. And, uh, you know, they were great.
- 1:02Speaker 2: They did everything for me and I just managed money. Well,
- 1:05Speaker 2: now it's me and me, uh, and, and gave, and
- 1:09Speaker 2: he was on vacation when, uh, as far as operating,
- 1:12Speaker 2: you know, taking it, taking in the money, showing the
- 1:15Speaker 2: clients with the do, uh, it's just a whole different setup.
- 1:18Speaker 2: And it just, Between– you know, I'm managing money all day,
- 1:21Speaker 2: like literally all day long. All I'm doing is trading
- 1:24Speaker 2: back and forth.
- 1:26Speaker 1: So pause for a second. Describe a day then. Here's
- 1:31Speaker 1: what I picture when you talk about this, and just
- 1:34Speaker 1: bear with me for a second. You're like managing money
- 1:39Speaker 1: all day long. Are you looking at the computer screens?
- 1:42Speaker 1: Are you looking– describe that scenario.
- 1:45Speaker 2: Yeah. Do you remember– I got six of them.
- 1:47Speaker 1: Do you remember when you would go– Maybe I shouldn't
- 1:50Speaker 1: even say this. I'll get in trouble. Do you remember
- 1:53Speaker 1: when you'd go on vacation and you would call me
- 1:56Speaker 1: from wherever you would be, wherever your family would be
- 1:58Speaker 1: on vacation, and they'd be having a great time? And
- 2:02Speaker 1: what do you think you'd be doing? Managing money, looking
- 2:07Speaker 1: at the computer.
- 2:07Speaker 2: I learned the hard way. I'm sorry, go ahead.
- 2:11Speaker 1: No, where you and I'd be talking and you'd be
- 2:14Speaker 1: looking at the computer, managing money, you know, dealing, watching
- 2:18Speaker 1: what's going on in the market and all this kind
- 2:20Speaker 1: of stuff. Meanwhile, they'd be in the pool playing, having
- 2:23Speaker 1: a time of their life.
- 2:26Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 2:26Speaker 3: And, you know, beach walks and slide and, you know,
- 2:30Speaker 3: that is behind the computer making people money or trying
- 2:33Speaker 3: to at least and, It's just like in the real
- 2:36Speaker 3: estate business.
- 2:36Speaker 2: The business owns you. You don't own it. Yes. Don't
- 2:39Speaker 2: confuse it. Yes. And I guess it's even the same
- 2:42Speaker 2: in the long-term business.
- 2:43Speaker 1: It's just the way it is. Anybody that's self-employed that
- 2:48Speaker 1: owns a business, that's the bottom line. You don't own it.
- 2:52Speaker 1: It owns you. There's no question. And you took– if
- 2:56Speaker 1: I just relive a little history and stop me if
- 2:59Speaker 1: you wish. I mean you took everything very personal because
- 3:03Speaker 1: these were your clients and from a standpoint of, okay,
- 3:08Speaker 1: there were a lot of people who entrusted in you
- 3:11Speaker 1: their retirements that they– Worked very hard for. I remember
- 3:15Speaker 1: you telling me this, John. You said you'll be surprised
- 3:18Speaker 1: how much money so many people in our community have
- 3:21Speaker 1: saved with just regular jobs, just absolute regular jobs. They
- 3:25Speaker 1: weren't physicians or they weren't major business owners. Just people
- 3:32Speaker 1: who went to work and lived below their means and
- 3:34Speaker 1: saved a substantial savings plan. Some million, two million dollars
- 3:40Speaker 1: or what have you. And you felt a connection with
- 3:44Speaker 1: them because of your roots and your family. And you
- 3:48Speaker 1: knew what they did to save that in a personal
- 3:50Speaker 1: connection to make sure you manage that money as wisely
- 3:54Speaker 1: as you possibly could for that person. That's a lot
- 3:56Speaker 1: of stress, right?
- 3:59Speaker 2: Yeah, you know where the stress fell more on? The
- 4:01Speaker 2: guy came to me with $ 250, 000, who's 62, and this
- 4:04Speaker 2: is all the money in the world he has. That's
- 4:06Speaker 2: where the stress lies. Because the person that was lucky
- 4:10Speaker 2: enough and through hard work and disciplined savings, if they
- 4:16Speaker 2: lost some money or if they missed a day or
- 4:18Speaker 2: two of gains, they're going to be fine. The person
- 4:21Speaker 2: that's counting on that money that I was sending them
- 4:23Speaker 2: from their $ 250, 000 account and they had a pension or
- 4:26Speaker 2: a Social Security and they needed that to live on,
- 4:29Speaker 2: that's when it was stressful. That's the guy that I
- 4:32Speaker 2: was looking out for. I was looking out for the
- 4:34Speaker 2: guy that no one else wanted to take. that needed
- 4:37Speaker 2: me to step up for him or her. And as
- 4:40Speaker 2: you pointed out, like it or not, if you care
- 4:43Speaker 2: about people, you care about people. And it's like that,
- 4:46Speaker 2: and I'm not a doctor, or it's like that attorney
- 4:48Speaker 2: that does pro bono work or a doctor that says,
- 4:50Speaker 2: you know what, I realize maybe you can't make the co-pay,
- 4:52Speaker 2: but you need my help. Uh, so I'm going to
- 4:55Speaker 2: see anyway, that's, I think you're either born that way
- 4:58Speaker 2: or you're not. And I'm fair. There's people who, who
- 5:01Speaker 2: got on the lifeboats on high panic with the kids
- 5:04Speaker 2: and the women. And there's people who stayed back and
- 5:06Speaker 2: let people, uh, let people, maybe they were less fortunate
- 5:10Speaker 2: or weren't in first class going to lifeboat. I'm the
- 5:12Speaker 2: kind of guy, I'm the guy that would have like,
- 5:14Speaker 2: let's get everyone lifeboats first. And if there's this class, but,
- 5:19Speaker 2: You're either built with that heart or you're not is
- 5:21Speaker 2: what I've come to find out in life, and I
- 5:22Speaker 2: think you have too.
- 5:23Speaker 1: Don't you think a lot of that, though, came from
- 5:25Speaker 1: your mom and dad? It's 1,000%. I mean, you weren't
- 5:30Speaker 1: born into this. You worked as a kid, and you
- 5:34Speaker 1: worked in various jobs as you went to school, as
- 5:36Speaker 1: you got your master's degree and all this kind of stuff.
- 5:39Speaker 1: You saw this firsthand with how hard your mom and
- 5:44Speaker 1: dad worked and saved for their retirements. It wasn't as
- 5:47Speaker 1: though you're born with a silver spoon in your mouth
- 5:49Speaker 1: or anything like that. That is what I think is
- 5:52Speaker 1: the difference.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I think, too, the more I read about DNA and psychology,
- 5:59Speaker 2: I think a lot of it's DNA. My parents were
- 6:01Speaker 2: both very good people, and they groomed me very well
- 6:06Speaker 2: as far as doing the right thing all the time.
- 6:08Speaker 2: When someone needs a hand up, you give them a
- 6:10Speaker 2: hand up if you have it. My dad used to say,
- 6:13Speaker 2: your name's on that job, so damn it, if you're
- 6:15Speaker 2: going to do it, you're an Arnold, you better do
- 6:17Speaker 2: it right. And, uh, and if I didn't, there was
- 6:20Speaker 2: no pay. And of course, as a kid, you couldn't
- 6:22Speaker 2: stand that. Even as a young adult, I was pissed
- 6:25Speaker 2: because my dad, you know, made me do the drywall and, and,
- 6:29Speaker 2: and hang a ceiling or whatever. And if I haven't
- 6:31Speaker 2: asked it, it had to do it all over again. So, um,
- 6:34Speaker 2: problem is, is definitely installed a great work ethic. And,
- 6:37Speaker 2: but more importantly, I just think my parents are just
- 6:39Speaker 2: really good people. And they grew up with not much.
- 6:41Speaker 2: And they, I watched them, hope people that didn't have much. And, um,
- 6:44Speaker 2: even when people kind of, you know, crapped on them
- 6:47Speaker 2: or whatever, they would still lend them a hand. And
- 6:49Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm, I have a DNA in me. And
- 6:52Speaker 2: more importantly, I've seen that growing up. So I wasn't,
- 6:55Speaker 2: I wasn't the guy that had a minimum, like I
- 6:57Speaker 2: did have a minimum, but I didn't have a hard
- 6:59Speaker 2: minimum to where I was steadfast at 50 or whatever.
- 7:02Speaker 2: You know, if someone had came in to me with
- 7:05Speaker 2: a hundred grand or whatever and said, listen, man, I
- 7:07Speaker 2: was referred to you by X, Y, Z. And you know,
- 7:10Speaker 2: I heard you're the guy. If I liked the guy
- 7:13Speaker 2: and I could tell you I was going to be
- 7:13Speaker 2: a pain in the ass or a woman or team
- 7:15Speaker 2: or whatever it was, I would take him on and
- 7:18Speaker 2: I would just give him the rules. Like, Hey, you're
- 7:19Speaker 2: going to pay a little bit more, but I'm going
- 7:20Speaker 2: to tell you, I'm going to give you everything you got.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I got like, if you had 10 million with me and, uh,
- 7:26Speaker 2: and sure enough, that was been my brand. John Arnold's
- 7:29Speaker 2: going to be the guy that helps you no matter what,
- 7:30Speaker 2: if you deserve it. And, uh, And like you taught,
- 7:33Speaker 2: being on vacation, you're right. I felt an obligation to
- 7:36Speaker 2: watch the money when I was on vacation.
- 7:38Speaker 1: You would never be on vacation. You could never be
- 7:41Speaker 1: away from it. Right.
- 7:43Speaker 4: Right.
- 7:43Speaker 2: And so that fed into, you know, I retired at 47,
- 7:46Speaker 2: about two and a half years ago.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Well, let me tell that story, and you tell me
- 7:50Speaker 1: if I'm right or wrong, all right? And you correct me.
- 7:56Speaker 1: This was another case when you said, listen, I manage
- 8:00Speaker 1: money for my clients and, you know, did a really
- 8:02Speaker 1: good job, but, but I want more for them. I
- 8:05Speaker 1: want more for those clients. I want, I want them to,
- 8:09Speaker 1: I want estate planning. I want the full, the full boat,
- 8:13Speaker 1: if you will, you know, more than, and more than
- 8:16Speaker 1: I'm able to give by, by myself on this large
- 8:20Speaker 1: firm of mine. And that's when, that's when you teamed
- 8:23Speaker 1: up with Rockport and Rockport brought all of that on board. And, and,
- 8:29Speaker 1: and that's when it shifted over to Rockport, which, which,
- 8:32Speaker 1: which was a good fit, good marriage, if you will,
- 8:36Speaker 1: so that you got certified financial planners, Joe and Adam
- 8:40Speaker 1: and the gang. You got a staff that deals with
- 8:46Speaker 1: Social Security, everything about life, right? You follow what I'm saying?
- 8:50Speaker 1: So now you could set that aside and move on
- 8:53Speaker 1: to something that's always been, I want to say, a
- 8:56Speaker 1: dream of yours, which is your own hedge fund. Am
- 8:59Speaker 1: I accurate?
- 9:01Speaker 2: You're half accurate. Believe it or not, I started looking.
- 9:05Speaker 2: I started looking. I pride myself on being very candid
- 9:08Speaker 2: on the show and probably getting a little TMI, but
- 9:11Speaker 2: that's just who I am, which is too much information.
- 9:13Speaker 2: But believe it or not, I was called out of
- 9:17Speaker 2: nowhere from a business broker saying, hey, I got another
- 9:21Speaker 2: buyer potentially for you. And I was so used to
- 9:24Speaker 2: being jacked off and jacked around by either a private
- 9:27Speaker 2: equity or somebody without the money or somebody that had
- 9:29Speaker 2: pipe dreams about buying our firm. but I just wasn't interested.
- 9:33Speaker 2: And then, so he came to me, this guy and said, Hey, listen,
- 9:35Speaker 2: I think my memory, his name was John. And, uh,
- 9:38Speaker 2: so no, these guys are serious and they're from Cleveland.
- 9:40Speaker 2: And I think they got the financing. I was like, really? So,
- 9:43Speaker 2: and the reason why I'm telling you that is because, um,
- 9:47Speaker 2: I had realized two years before even Adam and Joe
- 9:49Speaker 2: came around that I was wearing out. I was being
- 9:52Speaker 2: more irritable. I wasn't, I was, my success was working
- 9:56Speaker 2: against me. You know, I hired some people to kind
- 9:58Speaker 2: of take that load off. They didn't meet my standards.
- 10:01Speaker 2: And so I was being a human resource manager, a CFO,
- 10:06Speaker 2: a marketing guy, an investment manager, et cetera. And it
- 10:09Speaker 2: just was wearing me out. I had four kids, which
- 10:12Speaker 2: I hardly seen coming home irritable to my wife. It
- 10:14Speaker 2: was not a good fit, right? I had worn myself
- 10:17Speaker 2: out to max capacity because here's the problem with caring
- 10:21Speaker 2: about people. I couldn't say no. If someone needed my help,
- 10:25Speaker 2: I knew I could be better than the average Joe
- 10:27Speaker 2: around here and I could get better help, but I
- 10:29Speaker 2: was sacrificing myself for it. So it was a combination of, yeah,
- 10:33Speaker 2: I wanted better for my clientele. I am not Listen,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I know I could have easily passed the CFP and
- 10:39Speaker 2: took it. I was in that curriculum when I first started.
- 10:43Speaker 2: It's not me. It's not me. It will never be me.
- 10:45Speaker 2: I'm going to take the ball to the end zone
- 10:47Speaker 2: kind of guy resorts in here. But I will tell you,
- 10:50Speaker 2: that was something that I think on a 33% to 50%
- 10:54Speaker 2: of our clientele that probably needed it. I didn't want
- 10:56Speaker 2: to put that time and energy in order as my
- 10:58Speaker 2: personality to do that. So you're right. So I got
- 11:00Speaker 2: certified financial planners in there with a paraplanner who's going
- 11:04Speaker 2: to be a certified financial planner. She's, or maybe she is,
- 11:06Speaker 2: but like, like I sold to a great team, but
- 11:10Speaker 2: more importantly, a great, great people.
- 11:13Speaker 1: Right.
- 11:13Speaker 2: And that's what I was behind. Like they were family,
- 11:17Speaker 2: many kids. They were an hour away. Right. You know,
- 11:20Speaker 2: Adam's as good as a person as anybody can be.
- 11:22Speaker 2: Joe is saying, but you know, brilliant investing mind. Like
- 11:25Speaker 2: it was the right fit. And then, so that's why
- 11:28Speaker 2: I did it. That's the truth. Yeah.
- 11:29Speaker 1: Joe and you guys are very similar.
- 11:32Speaker 2: We are.
- 11:33Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So then you did that.
- 11:38Speaker 1: But there's always this thing that was gnawing in the
- 11:42Speaker 1: back of your mind, and that was your own hedge fund.
- 11:46Speaker 1: That seed had been planted there for quite some time.
- 11:49Speaker 1: Then after you did all of the things that we
- 11:51Speaker 1: just talked about, that's when you decided the time is now, right?
- 11:58Speaker 2: Yeah. And so when the right, you know, the right
- 12:00Speaker 2: bio came and the right personalities and the right characters came,
- 12:02Speaker 2: which was Rockport, it allowed me to chase that dream.
- 12:05Speaker 2: And here's the truth. My goal and that my initial,
- 12:07Speaker 2: my goal was to stay on board with Rockport, you know,
- 12:11Speaker 2: keep the clients of them, get them to a billion
- 12:13Speaker 2: dollars in assets and basically, you know, live life happily after.
- 12:18Speaker 2: But when I would go to Florida, I would just
- 12:21Speaker 2: so be bored out of my mind or twiddled my thumbs.
- 12:24Speaker 2: I'm like, man, this retiring gig is not for me.
- 12:26Speaker 2: And in the back of my mind, I was like,
- 12:27Speaker 2: you know what? I always want to do this hedge fund. Well,
- 12:30Speaker 2: let me dabble in this. And I investigated. I was like,
- 12:32Speaker 2: you know what? The average wealthier guy does exist here
- 12:37Speaker 2: and no one's really servicing those people. I was like,
- 12:40Speaker 2: let me create a hedge fund for the average wealthy
- 12:42Speaker 2: guy in this area.
- 12:44Speaker 1: And I did.
- 12:44Speaker 2: Because what people don't know is hedge funds are usually
- 12:47Speaker 2: only inviting people up $ 10, $ 20, $ 30 million. But there
- 12:51Speaker 2: is a 3C1 fund that allows me to have people
- 12:54Speaker 2: that are average wealthy. No one's calling all those people.
- 12:58Speaker 2: No one's servicing those people. So I created a fund
- 13:01Speaker 2: that caters those people, one, out of boredom, and two,
- 13:03Speaker 2: to see I'm the man in the arena. It's 100 people.
- 13:07Speaker 2: We're on the same team. We're all owners of the fund.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And it's on me to make the money. That's me.
- 13:13Speaker 2: I want the ball in my hands. Like I said,
- 13:15Speaker 2: go to the end zone. Give me the ball in
- 13:17Speaker 2: the TR line. I want to see if I can
- 13:18Speaker 2: punch it in. I'm that guy, and a hedge fund
- 13:22Speaker 2: forces you to do that. There is no excuses. If
- 13:25Speaker 2: the market's falling apart, you go short. If the market's
- 13:28Speaker 2: going crazy, you go long. Or what's called a hedge
- 13:31Speaker 2: is naturally you're going to be wrong on some, but
- 13:33Speaker 2: the hedge, the shorting of the other stuff, or buying
- 13:38Speaker 2: puts or whatever have you to hedge is going to
- 13:41Speaker 2: capture some kind of gain, even if the market's falling apart,
- 13:44Speaker 2: or even if your portfolio is not doing so well
- 13:46Speaker 2: on the long side. My point is it's on me
- 13:50Speaker 2: to give up the blended strategy to perform and kick ass.
- 13:53Speaker 2: There is no, the.
- 13:54Speaker 1: Market, but that is what you love.
- 13:58Speaker 2: That's me.
- 13:59Speaker 1: And I'm only allowed.
- 14:00Speaker 2: And now I only have to service, 99 people, not
- 14:04Speaker 2: 1,600 people. So I can give everything I got to
- 14:07Speaker 2: those folks. And I don't, it's just me and three
- 14:10Speaker 2: other guys who are doing their own special, me and
- 14:15Speaker 2: Steve are managing, but Gabe and Edward are doing their
- 14:19Speaker 2: thing on the operations side and marketing side that keeps
- 14:22Speaker 2: me focused. So you're getting the best John Arnold now
- 14:26Speaker 2: because I can devote everything I got to the 99 people.
- 14:30Speaker 2: And that's why I love it.
- 14:32Speaker 5: All right.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Now, that takes me back to my original question. So
- 14:36Speaker 1: describe a day like today when you talk about, you know,
- 14:40Speaker 1: they're so busy today. You're looking at all these screens.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Just describe what's going on.
- 14:48Speaker 2: I got six screens going on with one of them
- 14:50Speaker 2: being a trading screen. That's where I actually put in
- 14:52Speaker 2: the trades. The other ones have various– I might have
- 14:56Speaker 2: 16 screens. Stock chart's up at one time. I even
- 15:00Speaker 2: have my old school point and finger charting stock chart up.
- 15:04Speaker 2: And I'm just watching algorithms and trading off what's called
- 15:08Speaker 2: the weighted moving average and between the 200-day and 20-day
- 15:13Speaker 2: moving averages and some other stuff that I watch patterns-wise.
- 15:17Speaker 2: I do candlestick trading. And, hey, if I get a 1%
- 15:20Speaker 2: move in something for the day, I'm taking it. Versus before,
- 15:26Speaker 2: I would sit on it and maybe get 12% by
- 15:29Speaker 2: the end of the year. I'm going to use an
- 15:32Speaker 2: example of a stock like MU. MU is a great
- 15:35Speaker 2: day trading stock. Yeah, it's going to be in the
- 15:38Speaker 2: crapper for maybe a day or so, but if you
- 15:41Speaker 2: know what you're doing and you do volatile trading or
- 15:44Speaker 2: volatile weighted trading like I do, there's a really good
- 15:46Speaker 2: chance you're going to make a winner out of it. Um,
- 15:50Speaker 2: I'm doing that all day with various things like WDC
- 15:52Speaker 2: and MU and AMD and all the big names. But
- 15:55Speaker 2: I will also tell you like the first week in
- 15:58Speaker 2: June got killed. I mean, just the way it is.
- 16:02Speaker 2: But if you know what you're doing and you swing
- 16:04Speaker 2: trade it, there's a good potential. There's a really good
- 16:07Speaker 2: potential that you're going to make a really nice chunk
- 16:09Speaker 2: of change for your client, uh, over the course of
- 16:12Speaker 2: the year to year. So, That's what my day is, really.
- 16:17Speaker 2: You know, we live in a big house, but even
- 16:19Speaker 2: if we live in a small house, I can tell you,
- 16:21Speaker 2: Jennifer and I don't see each other throughout the day.
- 16:24Speaker 2: It's as if we live in a ghost town. And
- 16:27Speaker 2: that's because, you know, she's doing the kids and I'm
- 16:30Speaker 2: busy trading, but that's who I am. That's what I'm
- 16:34Speaker 2: made of. I'm just somebody who just can't sit on
- 16:36Speaker 2: the couch and eat bonbons. So my day is constant
- 16:39Speaker 2: trading and getting. And the other side is, The hedge
- 16:44Speaker 2: fund side is different than the investment firm side to
- 16:47Speaker 2: where you gave your data to the secretaries or the
- 16:50Speaker 2: administrative assistants and they put it in. You gave them
- 16:55Speaker 2: a handshake goodbye, we'll see you on your 90-day review
- 16:58Speaker 2: or whatever, and everybody goes on with their life. In
- 17:01Speaker 2: the hedge fund world, believe it or not, it's a
- 17:03Speaker 2: system that is designed to shield me from what's called
- 17:07Speaker 2: a limited partner. So the client has to put in
- 17:10Speaker 2: all their information into the system. So I don't see
- 17:13Speaker 2: their social security. I don't see their date of birth.
- 17:15Speaker 2: I don't see their checking account number. I don't wire
- 17:17Speaker 2: the money directly. The client's doing it. And so I'm
- 17:20Speaker 2: walking them through that, but they're doing it, which is very,
- 17:24Speaker 2: very frustrating. So if you don't know financial lingo, like
- 17:28Speaker 2: IRA and simple IRA, which sounds like common sense to
- 17:32Speaker 2: a lot of folks listening, but to a lot of
- 17:33Speaker 2: folks that don't do that and just maybe own an
- 17:36Speaker 2: electrician shop or are doing surgery, that is complete foreign trade.
- 17:42Speaker 2: talk to them. So sometimes I'll spend 40 minutes walking
- 17:45Speaker 2: a client to get an unlimited partner to get their
- 17:48Speaker 2: money into the fund. And that's very exhausting and very
- 17:52Speaker 2: aggravating because they're counting on me to do something that
- 17:55Speaker 2: I'm guessing at with them because I'm not allowed to
- 17:57Speaker 2: see their side of the screen. And that's purposely done
- 18:00Speaker 2: because they're also a business owner of this fund. It's
- 18:03Speaker 2: 100 of us that own this thing together. It's not
- 18:06Speaker 2: like an investment firm to where we're managing the assets
- 18:09Speaker 2: for their portfolio. We're actually together managing this stuff, and
- 18:13Speaker 2: they're counting on me as the manager to make it happen.
- 18:16Speaker 2: But I don't get to see their data. Imagine this.
- 18:20Speaker 2: I've got 99 board of directors, and I'm the CEO,
- 18:22Speaker 2: and I've got to report to them every month the good,
- 18:25Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly. And that's a lot on
- 18:28Speaker 2: my plate. But that's okay. That's what I'm built for.
- 18:32Speaker 1: And that's what you wanted, right?
- 18:35Speaker 2: That is.
- 18:35Speaker 4: You know what the truth is?
- 18:39Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
- 18:39Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt you. Go ahead. I didn't know. I'm
- 18:42Speaker 2: going to come out of the gate and I'm blessed,
- 18:45Speaker 2: first of all. I'm appreciative. I didn't know it was
- 18:47Speaker 2: going to be this busy. I didn't know coming out
- 18:51Speaker 2: in May to June, there's going to be so many
- 18:53Speaker 2: people that want to give it. So I thought it
- 18:54Speaker 2: was going to be a tough sale. Because when you
- 18:57Speaker 2: hear the term hedge fund, it's very intimidating. It's very,
- 18:59Speaker 2: I don't know, it's just very intimidating going back to
- 19:04Speaker 2: that first word because Everything you hear about hedge funds,
- 19:07Speaker 2: you hear about the movie stars and the billionaires and
- 19:09Speaker 2: the millionaires.
- 19:10Speaker 1: But your hedge fund is designed for... I don't want
- 19:13Speaker 1: to say... Your hedge fund is designed to a certain
- 19:16Speaker 1: extent for a Joe Bag of Donuts... Yeah, I mean,
- 19:20Speaker 1: you put in $ 100, 000 or $ 200, 000. I mean, there's some
- 19:24Speaker 1: criteria to get into it. We'll get into that later
- 19:28Speaker 1: in a broadcast. But you can get into this, your
- 19:31Speaker 1: hedge fund, with $ 100, 000 or $ 200, 000. So it's not something
- 19:36Speaker 1: that you need a million to get into. You've designed
- 19:39Speaker 1: it for that particular person in our community, correct?
- 19:45Speaker 2: Exactly. You know, it's kind of like... a big middle
- 19:49Speaker 2: finger back to those ultra wealthy people who have been shitting,
- 19:53Speaker 2: scrapping on people. You know, even the doctors and the
- 19:56Speaker 2: lawyers and the people well-to-do in our area, they're never
- 19:59Speaker 2: going to get to a hedge fund down in Florida,
- 20:01Speaker 2: Palm Beach. I look at the family offices down there.
- 20:05Speaker 2: They're across the street from the The place I do
- 20:09Speaker 2: jujitsu and self-defense, I'm telling you, they're monster buildings. And
- 20:13Speaker 2: there's Rolls Royces and exotic cars like I have pulling
- 20:17Speaker 2: in and out there constantly. And they're getting $ 10, $ 20.
- 20:20Speaker 6: $ 30 million.
- 20:21Speaker 2: And they walk around with their nose up in the
- 20:23Speaker 2: air and they think they're better than anybody. So I
- 20:25Speaker 2: was like, you know what, here's my big middle finger
- 20:27Speaker 2: to you guys. I'm going to create one for us,
- 20:30Speaker 2: for us. what you would think are just average wealthy people,
- 20:33Speaker 2: and I'm going to destroy you on performance. Because you
- 20:36Speaker 2: know what those ultra-wealthy people do? They're happy with 60%
- 20:39Speaker 2: because they don't need money. They're happy. They're more into
- 20:44Speaker 2: going to the country club and partying and this event
- 20:48Speaker 2: and this fundraising event. I hate all that. I'm a
- 20:51Speaker 2: real guy, and I'm investing real people's money that built
- 20:54Speaker 2: wealth the hard way. And I know that me versus them,
- 21:00Speaker 2: me versus their managers, I'm going to kick the crap
- 21:02Speaker 2: out of them. It's going to be a one-way ass kick,
- 21:05Speaker 2: and it's not even going to be close.
- 21:06Speaker 1: And you surrounded yourself with good colleagues, correct?
- 21:09Speaker 2: Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. Between Stevie, that's what I call him,
- 21:13Speaker 2: and me, it's going to be a bloodbath. It's going
- 21:16Speaker 2: to be a full down. It's going to be a
- 21:18Speaker 2: beat down. And when I get in front of them
- 21:20Speaker 2: and I go to those same parties in country clubs,
- 21:22Speaker 2: I'm going to say, well, tell me about your managers.
- 21:25Speaker 2: and his drawdown, et cetera. And when I come and
- 21:28Speaker 2: tell them ours, I'm going to embarrass them. And I
- 21:31Speaker 2: love that.
- 21:32Speaker 1: Absolutely. So it's happy to hear you say that the
- 21:35Speaker 1: hedge fund is going better than you dreamed as far
- 21:38Speaker 1: as people getting into it. And then Managing the Money.
- 21:41Speaker 1: We'll get into some specifics on that. I'm bouncing around
- 21:44Speaker 1: a little bit, just picking your brain. John Arnold's with us.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Money Talks on NewsRadio 570. Comment, please, SpaceX. Just talk
- 21:55Speaker 1: to me about that. I mean, it's Elon Musk. There's
- 21:59Speaker 1: a magic about that guy, his vision, his name, and
- 22:03Speaker 1: everyone wants to get a piece of it and hopefully
- 22:08Speaker 1: hang on to it because... You're thinking, I'm just rambling here.
- 22:12Speaker 1: Could it be the next Amazon? Could it be the
- 22:14Speaker 1: next whatever, NVIDIA when it's young? Could it be the
- 22:20Speaker 1: next thing that you hang on to and it could
- 22:21Speaker 1: be life-changing? That's how we think out here, John.
- 22:27Speaker 2: Well, I don't think it's you and us thinking out here.
- 22:30Speaker 2: I think it's everybody in the world.
- 22:31Speaker 4: Right.
- 22:31Speaker 2: I will tell you this. Don't bring it up to
- 22:33Speaker 2: Joe on Monday. or Wednesday, whenever you guys take, because
- 22:37Speaker 2: he is out of his mind pissed off about SpaceX
- 22:39Speaker 2: right now, including me.
- 22:41Speaker 4: Why?
- 22:41Speaker 2: When I tell you hundreds of phone calls, hundreds of
- 22:43Speaker 2: phone calls, are we in SpaceX? Are we in SpaceX?
- 22:45Speaker 2: Are we in SpaceX? That would be like calling your
- 22:47Speaker 2: surgeon and saying, when are we doing the surgery? When
- 22:49Speaker 2: are we doing the surgery? Or your architect, when are
- 22:51Speaker 2: we doing the plans? And that's enough. Like, Man.
- 22:57Speaker 1: Well, that's a good thing. What's a SpaceX thing?
- 23:00Speaker 2: What is it?
- 23:02Speaker 1: Because everybody's so excited about it, thinking that this is
- 23:07Speaker 1: the next big. You understand. Listen, I understand you guys
- 23:10Speaker 1: get involved in this stuff.
- 23:11Speaker 2: Of course I understand.
- 23:12Speaker 1: But we're all out saying, hey, you know, I wish
- 23:14Speaker 1: I went about Amazon when Amazon was selling books. Well,
- 23:18Speaker 1: a lot of people are now saying it's Elon Musk,
- 23:20Speaker 1: it's Tesla. And now with the shoulda, coulda, woulda, they're
- 23:24Speaker 1: saying maybe this time.
- 23:25Speaker 2: Maybe, maybe.
- 23:27Speaker 1: You understand.
- 23:28Speaker 2: I think Joe talked about this.
- 23:30Speaker 1: On the show FOMO. Hang on a second. I want
- 23:32Speaker 1: to come back to you, all right? Time flies by
- 23:37Speaker 1: when you're talking with the money coach himself. Money Talks,
- 23:40Speaker 1: John Arnold. NewsRadio 570, WKBNR. It's already 632, Thursday, June 18th,
- 23:42Speaker 1: 74 degrees. Back with John Arnold. So I want to
- 23:49Speaker 1: go back to SpaceX. Okay, you were saying it drives
- 23:53Speaker 1: you guys out of your mind because there's this buzz
- 23:55Speaker 1: and excitement about it. So give me your thoughts about it.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Oh, again, keep in mind this is an opinion, but
- 24:04Speaker 2: I think it's going to be outstanding. And I also
- 24:07Speaker 2: think there's a time and place for it. And I
- 24:10Speaker 2: also think that if you're near retirement, you don't put
- 24:14Speaker 2: a lot of your money into it because it could
- 24:15Speaker 2: blow up like any technology stock. And ironically, it's a
- 24:19Speaker 2: space rocket-type stock, and I don't mean to use the
- 24:23Speaker 2: word blow up or dive or skyrocket, which is all
- 24:30Speaker 2: stock market terminology, but it fits. But what drives Joe
- 24:35Speaker 2: and I crazy, and Adam, is... It's like overwhelming. It's
- 24:41Speaker 2: like telling a doctor, like, hey, did you know that
- 24:43Speaker 2: you can use a blood pressure cuff to get blood
- 24:46Speaker 2: pressure testing? Like, of course.
- 24:48Speaker 4: You know what?
- 24:49Speaker 2: Like, of course we know.
- 24:51Speaker 1: Like, we're good.
- 24:52Speaker 2: Like, I understand. I don't need you calling us every
- 24:55Speaker 2: three minutes or texting me. Like, hey, did you hear
- 24:57Speaker 2: about the SpaceX IPO? Like, what are you talking about? Like, wait,
- 25:00Speaker 2: there's something called SpaceX? Like, who's this Elon guy? Of
- 25:03Speaker 2: course I did. Like, unless I'm living under a rock
- 25:07Speaker 2: in Egypt somewhere, I think everybody knows who the hell
- 25:10Speaker 2: Elon Musk is and SpaceX. But here's what I didn't realize,
- 25:15Speaker 2: because I just assumed, which is a bad word, making
- 25:18Speaker 2: an ass out of you and me, but I assume
- 25:20Speaker 2: that people know, and I'm assuming that Joe and Adam assumed,
- 25:22Speaker 2: that once you get in an IPO, you're stuck in
- 25:25Speaker 2: it for 90 days. Did you know that, Ron?
- 25:26Speaker 7: No.
- 25:27Speaker 2: Okay, Ronnie kicks on that train, so... Imagine this. So
- 25:33Speaker 2: it comes out at 135, let's say it goes to 160,
- 25:36Speaker 2: but then the next day maybe one of the rockets
- 25:38Speaker 2: blows up or an analyst comes out and says this
- 25:41Speaker 2: thing is dog crap. And it falls to 90. It
- 25:44Speaker 2: goes from 135 to 90. How could we explain to
- 25:48Speaker 2: our six-year-old client who's got five years into retirement and say, hey,
- 25:53Speaker 2: even though we had no data history on this and
- 25:55Speaker 2: even though it's overwhelmingly high on expenses, we felt that
- 25:59Speaker 2: we were going to put 10% of your portfolio into SpaceX.
- 26:03Speaker 2: And oh, by the way, sorry, Charlie, we can't get
- 26:05Speaker 2: you out for 90 days. How do you think the
- 26:08Speaker 2: regulators would feel about that? The regulators would kill us
- 26:12Speaker 2: because we would not have a justified answer. In the
- 26:16Speaker 2: RegBI world, which is client first, means you've got to
- 26:20Speaker 2: do what's best interest for the client, we cannot explain
- 26:24Speaker 2: to an SEC auditor or an investigator why we put
- 26:28Speaker 2: somebody's money into something that has no history behind it
- 26:32Speaker 2: when it's truly a guess. So what we did is
- 26:35Speaker 2: Joe and I met on an investment community meeting with Adam,
- 26:38Speaker 2: and two or three weeks ago, we put him in NASA,
- 26:42Speaker 2: which is a space and technology ETF, which is we
- 26:46Speaker 2: assumed and probably does own SpaceX. Now, if we need
- 26:50Speaker 2: to get out of SpaceX, we have a liquidity event
- 26:54Speaker 2: and we can do it. And we're diversifying within a
- 26:59Speaker 2: bunch of space technology stocks, not just SpaceX. So I
- 27:03Speaker 2: think that was a pretty move. There'll be a time
- 27:05Speaker 2: and place where SpaceX comes back down to earth again,
- 27:08Speaker 2: another pun to where it makes sense to buy the
- 27:11Speaker 2: individual equity. But right now, Trap somebody's money for 90 days,
- 27:16Speaker 2: it's in a financial planning type scenario at Rockport, does
- 27:19Speaker 2: not make a lot of sense. And so I don't
- 27:23Speaker 2: know how else to make it clearer than that.
- 27:25Speaker 1: All right. So with that in mind, though, I mean,
- 27:29Speaker 1: let's see. I guess the people that got it have
- 27:33Speaker 1: to hold on to it for a while. And there's
- 27:35Speaker 1: some people that are saying, well, when that day comes
- 27:37Speaker 1: when they can sell it. Some of these people become
- 27:41Speaker 1: instant millionaires, you know, the Musk employees and that kind
- 27:43Speaker 1: of stuff. Perhaps they'll sell it and cash in, or
- 27:47Speaker 1: perhaps they'll hold it and see what happens five years
- 27:50Speaker 1: or ten years from now. It depends on your age,
- 27:52Speaker 1: your health, and all that kind of stuff. So, you know,
- 27:55Speaker 1: there are those out there that say, wait till you
- 27:58Speaker 1: reach that point before you buy the individual stock. It
- 28:02Speaker 1: could go down, could be less, but it could be
- 28:05Speaker 1: more too. It's typical of the market, right? No one knows.
- 28:09Speaker 2: It is difficult. Listen, I'm not an idiot. Of course
- 28:12Speaker 2: I'm excited. There is no bigger fan of Elon Musk
- 28:15Speaker 2: than John Arnold. I've been telling that people in that
- 28:17Speaker 2: program for years. I think he is amazing. I think
- 28:21Speaker 2: whatever he touches against all grains is going to, and
- 28:25Speaker 2: here's another pun, go to the moon. Would I sacrifice
- 28:31Speaker 2: someone's portfolio with a large amount of money in it? No.
- 28:35Speaker 2: Hell no, I would not do that. Even my own
- 28:37Speaker 2: hedge fund doesn't know a lot of it. So my
- 28:40Speaker 2: point is, like anything, you buy in the rumor and
- 28:44Speaker 2: you sell in the news. So the rumor is, you know,
- 28:46Speaker 2: the excitement is carrying this thing. Excuse me, I don't
- 28:50Speaker 2: think the fundamentals are there. So just, I guess what
- 28:54Speaker 2: I'm saying is obviously I'm excited. Obviously, learning about Elon
- 28:58Speaker 2: Musk excites me. I love the guy as far as
- 29:00Speaker 2: what he creates. And do I think that SpaceX is
- 29:03Speaker 2: probably a great long-term holder?
- 29:04Speaker 8: Absolutely.
- 29:05Speaker 2: Absolutely. Buying it at an unknown price doesn't make a
- 29:09Speaker 2: lot of sense in a lot of people's portfolios. Remember,
- 29:12Speaker 2: everybody's happy when they're winning. But boy, I've been in
- 29:15Speaker 2: this game for 25 years. You wouldn't believe how the
- 29:18Speaker 2: story changes when it goes the opposite way. Oh, you
- 29:21Speaker 2: should have looked out for us. That son of a,
- 29:24Speaker 2: you know what, you know, he tried to make money
- 29:26Speaker 2: on us. It's all kind of crazy, dumb stuff that
- 29:30Speaker 2: comes out of people's mouths.
- 29:32Speaker 1: Money changes people. If you don't have an understanding, could
- 29:35Speaker 1: be right, could be wrong, stocks go up, stocks go down.
- 29:37Speaker 1: That's the reality that you have. to– stocks could go
- 29:42Speaker 1: up a little, go down a little, go up a lot,
- 29:43Speaker 1: go down a lot. That's just the way of the world.
- 29:48Speaker 1: But I'm just interested in talking about the– Well, let me.
- 29:52Speaker 2: Piggyback that to this, and I'll shut up after this.
- 29:55Speaker 2: People think they're risk-takers. Until the risk hits, remember that.
- 30:00Speaker 2: They think that they're risk takers until they got to
- 30:04Speaker 2: prove they're risk takers. You get what I'm saying? You
- 30:06Speaker 2: put out $ 200, 000 together in something, and the market hits
- 30:10Speaker 2: the crapper, and now it's at $ 160, 000. And you needed
- 30:14Speaker 2: that $ 200, 000 to be there for you. Now what do
- 30:16Speaker 2: you do? Now are you disciplined enough and emotional enough,
- 30:19Speaker 2: not emotional enough to let it ride back up and
- 30:21Speaker 2: hopefully make money? Or do you sell and panic? I'll
- 30:25Speaker 2: tell you right now, I think 50% are selling panic
- 30:27Speaker 2: because they're dumb. And more importantly, they're over-emotional. And they're
- 30:33Speaker 2: not built for the stock market, even though they think
- 30:34Speaker 2: they are. Right. I can give you a hundred stories
- 30:38Speaker 2: about that. Right.
- 30:39Speaker 1: And everything is so individual based on your risk tolerance,
- 30:44Speaker 1: your age, whatever. Your health, your timeline. There's so many variables.
- 30:49Speaker 1: Everything is so unique to every individual. That's why we
- 30:52Speaker 1: say on the program, you know, we're talking for educational
- 30:55Speaker 1: purposes here. On the broadcast, everybody should obviously consult with
- 30:59Speaker 1: their own individual broker on their own individual situation. That
- 31:04Speaker 1: goes without saying. But I've never seen a buzz. You know,
- 31:08Speaker 1: you and I have talked a lot of years on
- 31:10Speaker 1: the radio. I've never seen a buzz like I did on– well–
- 31:15Speaker 1: There are two things. I take that back. SpaceX and Nvidia.
- 31:19Speaker 1: They would be in similar categories. Probably the buzz of
- 31:23Speaker 1: SpaceX was even bigger than Nvidia. But they're close.
- 31:27Speaker 2: I think second to that would be his IPO, but
- 31:29Speaker 2: go ahead, yeah.
- 31:30Speaker 1: I mean, but they are close. But a lot of people,
- 31:33Speaker 1: you know, looked at what happened with NVIDIA, and a
- 31:35Speaker 1: lot of people look at SpaceX and Elon Musk. And,
- 31:38Speaker 1: you know, if you're a young person, you might say,
- 31:41Speaker 1: you know, if you're 35 years old, maybe you do
- 31:45Speaker 1: want to, you know, say, well, I think I want
- 31:49Speaker 1: to look, I want to buy that stock, and I'm
- 31:51Speaker 1: not going to pay much attention to it for the
- 31:52Speaker 1: next 15 or 20 years or whatever, because... Who knows
- 31:55Speaker 1: what can happen? Let's just put it that way. Could
- 31:58Speaker 1: it be the next Amazon? Could it be whatever?
- 32:00Speaker 2: Yeah. And it probably will be wrong. It probably will
- 32:04Speaker 2: be the next Google, the next Nvidia, probably the next Amazon. Hell,
- 32:08Speaker 2: you look at Tesla had a nice ride. So again,
- 32:12Speaker 2: it's all about, it's all about risk perspective. Can you
- 32:14Speaker 2: take the risk and can you take the ride?
- 32:16Speaker 1: And what's your, and what's your timeframe? There's part of
- 32:18Speaker 1: that too.
- 32:20Speaker 2: That too.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 32:21Speaker 2: From a financial planning standpoint, like, Do you have the
- 32:25Speaker 2: time to recover?
- 32:26Speaker 1: Now, I want to go next, and you tell me
- 32:29Speaker 1: if I can go next here. When we're talking about
- 32:33Speaker 1: the hedge fund and we're talking about just investing in general,
- 32:38Speaker 1: this AI sector is just on fire. What are your
- 32:44Speaker 1: thoughts about that sector?
- 32:49Speaker 2: I think it's just getting started. I think it's getting started.
- 32:53Speaker 2: If you're an investor, it's a home run. I mean,
- 33:01Speaker 2: you've got a lot of initial expenses setting it up,
- 33:04Speaker 2: powering it. But once you figure that mousetrap out, I
- 33:09Speaker 2: think you've got to run away freight train there. Because
- 33:12Speaker 2: your human capital costs are going to be insignificant. And
- 33:16Speaker 2: your machinery and your repair. It's one of those systems
- 33:20Speaker 2: to where it's just basically replacing... you know, semiconductors are
- 33:24Speaker 2: better semiconductors. And, you know, that's what it's going to
- 33:28Speaker 2: come down to. And that's why you go get TSM,
- 33:31Speaker 2: which is Taiwan's semiconductors, why that's such a powerful stock.
- 33:36Speaker 2: You look at NVIDIA, why that's such a powerful stock.
- 33:39Speaker 2: Just go to Home Depot, or excuse me, go to
- 33:40Speaker 2: Spotify and look at the computers with chips in them, AMD, NVIDIA.
- 33:46Speaker 2: So a lot of things are right in front of
- 33:48Speaker 2: your face. It just depends on, from an investment standpoint,
- 33:53Speaker 2: You're paying attention. What I'm paying attention to is what
- 33:56Speaker 2: you brought up, AI. And I think AI is a
- 33:59Speaker 2: runaway freight train. And I think, yeah, of course, like
- 34:01Speaker 2: any sector, in any market sense, there's going to be pull-downs.
- 34:05Speaker 2: There's going to be bad years. But if you look
- 34:08Speaker 2: at the big picture, I think that's going to probably
- 34:11Speaker 2: be the best-performing sector ever. Hard to ever live. And
- 34:16Speaker 2: I'm not happy about it.
- 34:17Speaker 1: But you've got to deal with the financial realities, whether
- 34:20Speaker 1: you're happy about it or not. You once said, listen— Yeah, you.
- 34:22Speaker 2: Have to overcome and adapt.
- 34:23Speaker 1: Right. It isn't about— if you're for Democrats or Republicans, you've
- 34:28Speaker 1: got to take a look at investment strategy on making money,
- 34:31Speaker 1: no matter who the president is. And it doesn't matter
- 34:33Speaker 1: whether you like or dislike a sector. You have to say,
- 34:36Speaker 1: is that where we can go to make some money?
- 34:39Speaker 1: And everyone— I mean, I'm just talking about the buzz that's
- 34:43Speaker 1: out there with people, you know, that seems— Everybody's talking
- 34:46Speaker 1: about it, and it seems where things are going, and
- 34:49Speaker 1: there's an excitement about all of that as well. And
- 34:52Speaker 1: it's kind of like when the Internet first came around,
- 34:54Speaker 1: when Al Gore invented the Internet, John.
- 34:59Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he is such a genius that he invented
- 35:01Speaker 2: the Internet. The president didn't carry him to the presidency.
- 35:07Speaker 2: It's amazing how people at that level, how stupid they
- 35:11Speaker 2: really are. Really, isn't it amazing?
- 35:13Speaker 1: I know, but I just felt I wanted to give
- 35:15Speaker 1: you one of those shots right there.
- 35:17Speaker 2: I thought all this time, I thought I am Aaron Neenat,
- 35:19Speaker 2: and there he goes stealing my thunder.
- 35:23Speaker 1: Now, I want to talk now. What a pleasant Thursday
- 35:28Speaker 1: evening I'm having, folks. I'm enjoying myself, all right?
- 35:31Speaker 2: Now, I want to talk about your hedge fund.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Because this is, how do I put it? I mean,
- 35:35Speaker 1: I must say, you're excited, you're driven, and... I don't know,
- 35:51Speaker 1: there's something about this. So talk about the hedge fund.
- 35:56Speaker 1: Talk about the requirements for people getting in. Talk about
- 35:59Speaker 1: how they get in, just so people understand it, please.
- 36:04Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I have to. So you have to be
- 36:07Speaker 2: an accredited investor of a 3C1 fund. You have to
- 36:11Speaker 2: be accredited, which means you have to have one of
- 36:13Speaker 2: the four I'm about to give you. You have to
- 36:16Speaker 2: have at least $ 1 million in liquid assets or assets
- 36:19Speaker 2: that outside of your residence. So if you have some
- 36:21Speaker 2: rental properties, you have some land, some oil, plus you've got, say,
- 36:25Speaker 2: a 401k worth $ 600, 000 to $ 800, 000, you're in. You're accredited.
- 36:29Speaker 2: It can include your personal home, so please don't try.
- 36:32Speaker 2: The heartbreaking part of this for me is people I
- 36:35Speaker 2: love and care about that want to get into this,
- 36:37Speaker 2: but I have to unfortunately tell them, like, listen, I'm
- 36:40Speaker 2: sorry I I would be breaking the law, plus we
- 36:42Speaker 2: have it set up to where we can't fudge any numbers. Like,
- 36:46Speaker 2: either the block fits in the hole or it doesn't.
- 36:48Speaker 2: And I've had to tell people, unfortunately, that we can't
- 36:51Speaker 2: accept you, and that was heartbreaking.
- 36:52Speaker 1: But there are four criterias. That's just one of them, though.
- 36:56Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you have to have all four of them, right?
- 36:58Speaker 1: You don't have to have all four. You have to
- 36:59Speaker 1: have one of the four.
- 37:02Speaker 2: You have to have one of the four.
- 37:03Speaker 1: All right.
- 37:04Speaker 2: One of the four is have a million dollars net
- 37:06Speaker 2: worth outside your residency, or... showing your taxes that you
- 37:11Speaker 2: made $ 200, 000 a year, or putting your wife together, a
- 37:16Speaker 2: total of $ 300, 000. So you made $ 120, 000, your wife made $ 180, 000, $ 300, 000,
- 37:20Speaker 2: you qualify. And the fourth and the easiest is, if
- 37:24Speaker 2: you have $ 200, 000 to invest, you're accredited. End. But it can't, listen,
- 37:30Speaker 2: the other thing about that is, you can't be your
- 37:34Speaker 2: only $ 200, 000. It can't be $ 200, 000 or $ 500, 000. And we
- 37:39Speaker 2: do a due diligence process to make that happen. So
- 37:42Speaker 2: it's one of those four, $ 1 million net worth outside
- 37:46Speaker 2: your residence or $ 200, 000 a year or $ 300, 000 with your
- 37:49Speaker 2: spouse or the ability to put $ 200, 000 in at one time.
- 37:51Speaker 2: You got one of those four, you can apply now.
- 38:00Speaker 2: to be one of our, I think we have some
- 38:01Speaker 2: subscriptions left. I'm not saying, I know we do, but
- 38:04Speaker 2: it's starting to get lean. And we're creating a backup fund,
- 38:08Speaker 2: just so you know, because this thing's filling up fast.
- 38:11Speaker 2: So for folks that are saying, well, listen, I'm waiting
- 38:13Speaker 2: on this settlement check or I'm waiting to sell my
- 38:15Speaker 2: business or I'm willing to use, we're going to have
- 38:19Speaker 2: another fund for you as a piggyback if this fills up.
- 38:21Speaker 2: So don't be fearful. That's that. Hopefully I explained that
- 38:26Speaker 2: in a very plain Jane way.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Right. All right, and then explain from a hedge fund standpoint,
- 38:33Speaker 1: once you invest, explain what you do then on a
- 38:36Speaker 1: daily basis with managing this hedge fund and explain the
- 38:40Speaker 1: operations of how you're trading daily. Just talk a little
- 38:44Speaker 1: bit about that.
- 38:46Speaker 2: Yeah, so if you go into like a firm like
- 38:48Speaker 2: Adam and Joseph or Rockport, they're putting together portfolios for
- 38:52Speaker 2: financial planning's perspective that are litmus testing your life experience. Basically,
- 38:57Speaker 2: you're this much, you're this age. you're going to retire
- 39:01Speaker 2: at this age or you're retired. Here's your income from
- 39:03Speaker 2: Social Security. Here's all these things. We're going to plug
- 39:06Speaker 2: you into the system. We're going to make sure that
- 39:07Speaker 2: you don't run out of money and we're going to
- 39:08Speaker 2: make sure that you don't take too much risk to
- 39:10Speaker 2: do so. And we're going to hold these portfolios for
- 39:12Speaker 2: X amount of time and reallocate them as needed. That's
- 39:15Speaker 2: exactly the opposite of what I do. Someone's giving me
- 39:18Speaker 2: X amount of dollars and we're putting into this pie together,
- 39:22Speaker 2: old owners, a hundred of us. And you're saying, John,
- 39:25Speaker 2: I don't care how you make us money, make us money.
- 39:29Speaker 2: If that's 10, to 20 or 30 trades a day,
- 39:32Speaker 2: so be it. If you find a way to cut
- 39:36Speaker 2: up trees and turn them into gold logs 30 days
- 39:39Speaker 2: from now.
- 39:40Speaker 1: So be it.
- 39:41Speaker 2: If you find a way to buy funeral homes at
- 39:43Speaker 2: a certain price and sell them at a 3x a
- 39:46Speaker 2: month later, so be it. We just want a return.
- 39:48Speaker 2: We want a positive return. Better than average return, we
- 39:51Speaker 2: want an alpha return. So what I'm doing all day,
- 39:54Speaker 2: because the stock game is my game, is I'm literally
- 39:58Speaker 2: trading equities all day long, and we're hedging with some shorts,
- 40:04Speaker 2: and we're also hedging to where I'm only willing to
- 40:06Speaker 2: take a certain risk. I'll stop while something else, I'll
- 40:12Speaker 2: stay disciplined and take a small loss to get maybe 6%
- 40:16Speaker 2: on something else. So to basically frame up everything and
- 40:21Speaker 2: I'm constantly managing the money all day long within the fund.
- 40:26Speaker 2: And the goal is to be what you can do
- 40:28Speaker 2: on your, you know, what an average investment person can do,
- 40:31Speaker 2: which I think we're going to do. And that's that. Right.
- 40:35Speaker 1: I mean, it's, it's too, it doesn't matter if the
- 40:38Speaker 1: market's up or down, it's trying to, to, to work
- 40:42Speaker 1: on an, on an hourly basis or even sooner on,
- 40:46Speaker 1: on those types of things. In a nutshell.
- 40:50Speaker 9: Yeah.
- 40:51Speaker 1: All right. Let's stand now. And stand by. I'll give
- 40:54Speaker 1: you a Gmail address or an email address, I should say,
- 40:58Speaker 1: and a phone number to call if you're interested in
- 41:01Speaker 1: talking with John about the hedge funds with whatever openings
- 41:05Speaker 1: are still left. All right. So if you're interested in
- 41:07Speaker 1: talking with John Arnold about the hedge funds, we'll give
- 41:11Speaker 1: you a phone number out here. Stand by for that.
- 41:13Speaker 1: And we'll give you an email address out for that
- 41:16Speaker 1: as well. I want to, and that'll be coming up momentarily,
- 41:20Speaker 1: but I want to ask you about the week's events
- 41:24Speaker 1: and the stock markets. I always bring it up. I
- 41:27Speaker 1: think the market was, bear with me a minute, up today.
- 41:31Speaker 1: So we have the, I just want to get your
- 41:33Speaker 1: reaction as far as the market is concerned, as far
- 41:36Speaker 1: as the memorandum of understanding and just your thoughts on
- 41:42Speaker 1: that situation, because it creates such volatility in the markets. Comment, please.
- 41:49Speaker 2: Well, yeah. The key word there is DT, Donald Trump.
- 41:54Speaker 2: You're going to have a lot of volatility, I think,
- 41:55Speaker 2: as long as he's president. And again, you're talking to
- 41:57Speaker 2: a guy that supports him. And for those listeners out there,
- 42:00Speaker 2: he's all about you're a conservative Republican. I am. But
- 42:02Speaker 2: I'm also a truth teller. So the guy's volatile. I
- 42:06Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you. And for me, it's great.
- 42:09Speaker 2: For people watching the headlines and managing money through it,
- 42:13Speaker 2: it's awful. So You know, the war coming to an end, supposedly,
- 42:17Speaker 2: which I think is tonight or tomorrow in paper, and J.D.
- 42:21Speaker 2: Vance was saying that we're already seeing great things come
- 42:24Speaker 2: out of it, and I hope it's true. You're going
- 42:28Speaker 2: to have some opportunities here in banking, some small-cap stuff,
- 42:32Speaker 2: some mid-cap stuff, some building stocks, I believe, like Caterpillar.
- 42:37Speaker 2: And I'm not telling you to buy those guys. I'm
- 42:38Speaker 2: telling you to investigate those with your own financial advisors
- 42:41Speaker 2: and say, hey, We've been in XYZ for the past
- 42:45Speaker 2: three years. You haven't moved my money. Maybe it's time
- 42:47Speaker 2: to take advantage of some things that are creative that
- 42:51Speaker 2: might make me above average returns. So you should be
- 42:53Speaker 2: talking to your portfolio managers, your investment advisors, your financial
- 42:58Speaker 2: planning people. I'm not talking about Adam and Joe because
- 43:00Speaker 2: they already do that. We do that all the time.
- 43:03Speaker 2: I'm talking about if you're not with those guys and me.
- 43:06Speaker 2: Go put your line of sand with some of your
- 43:09Speaker 2: people and say, hey, give me something that's going to
- 43:11Speaker 2: give me a positive out of this war. I'll tell
- 43:14Speaker 2: you something that we're doing on the hedge fund side is,
- 43:17Speaker 2: and this is extremely risky, so I don't tell anybody
- 43:19Speaker 2: to do it, but I think oil and energy overall
- 43:21Speaker 2: is a short. And I've made some money on that already,
- 43:25Speaker 2: shorting oil. It's very risky, one of the riskiest things
- 43:28Speaker 2: you can do. I'm not telling you to do it.
- 43:30Speaker 2: I'm just giving you some things that maybe might appeal
- 43:33Speaker 2: to you if you're a risk taker that– you might
- 43:38Speaker 2: want to reallocate to. But like I said, take a
- 43:40Speaker 2: look at building materials. Take a look at international infrastructure.
- 43:45Speaker 2: You know, the big bitch right now is, oh, you know,
- 43:48Speaker 2: we're going to rebuild Iran for $ 300 billion. Well, like
- 43:52Speaker 2: it or not, that's what happened in the previous wars
- 43:55Speaker 2: from World War II. We rebuilt Japan. So, you know,
- 43:58Speaker 2: you can bitch about all you want, but hop on
- 44:00Speaker 2: that gravy train and see if you can make some
- 44:01Speaker 2: money on that back. And the people financing it are
- 44:04Speaker 2: the regional central banks. I just think there's a lot
- 44:09Speaker 2: of opportunity here, and I hope that people ride that
- 44:12Speaker 2: wave in.
- 44:14Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't matter whether you're for it or against it.
- 44:17Speaker 1: It's an investment strategy, correct? I mean, you can't... How
- 44:21Speaker 1: do you say you got... Well, you often say you
- 44:24Speaker 1: got to take your emotions out of it, if I'm
- 44:27Speaker 1: paraphrasing you.
- 44:28Speaker 2: I talked a lot about that time, emotion, discipline at that.
- 44:31Speaker 2: If you can master those, you'll be the ultimate investor.
- 44:34Speaker 2: The problem with people is... You know, they can't master
- 44:37Speaker 2: the emotion. And then if they can't master the emotion,
- 44:39Speaker 2: then they can't master the discipline. If they can't manage
- 44:43Speaker 2: those two, then you're definitely not managing the time value
- 44:46Speaker 2: of money. The time value of money is the best
- 44:49Speaker 2: thing you can accomplish.
- 44:50Speaker 1: It reminds me of a story that you once told
- 44:52Speaker 1: where people, when Biden got elected, wanted to get out
- 44:54Speaker 1: of the market because Biden got elected. And you had
- 44:56Speaker 1: to talk them off the ledge and say, listen, the
- 44:59Speaker 1: stock markets do pretty good under Democrats, too. They do
- 45:04Speaker 1: better sometimes. You can't put your own personal... Feelings or
- 45:08Speaker 1: emotions into something when it's all about trying to make
- 45:12Speaker 1: an investment or make money. So the hedge fund, he
- 45:16Speaker 1: gave you the four criterias to get into the initial
- 45:20Speaker 1: hedge funds, 100%. Members, and then it can take no
- 45:25Speaker 1: more than that, basically. Once you hit the 100 mark,
- 45:28Speaker 1: that hedge fund is closed. Here's the interesting thing, folks.
- 45:31Speaker 1: On Thursday, as long as we're not preempted by the Guardians,
- 45:35Speaker 1: then coming July 1st, which isn't that far away, once
- 45:39Speaker 1: it gets all certified and everything, you can report in
- 45:42Speaker 1: to us publicly on the radio how the hedge fund
- 45:44Speaker 1: is done. Is that accurate?
- 45:47Speaker 7: Yeah.
- 45:47Speaker 2: I'm told that the NAB is going to be done
- 45:49Speaker 2: probably the 8th day of the month after. then that
- 45:52Speaker 2: was the value of the share. And I think majority
- 45:55Speaker 2: of a lot of our money will be in by July.
- 45:58Speaker 2: So I think you can expect our first reporting, maybe
- 46:03Speaker 2: August 8th, August 9th area, which my wife's birthday, by
- 46:05Speaker 2: the way. But yeah, I think you can expect that
- 46:08Speaker 2: in those first two weeks of August. And you know me,
- 46:11Speaker 2: I'm not, I'm not shy. Once I, once I keep
- 46:14Speaker 2: hitting it out of the park, I'm going to keep
- 46:15Speaker 2: pouring it on. They're going to be telling you a
- 46:17Speaker 2: couple of them every 10 months. Like this is where
- 46:19Speaker 2: daddy's at right now. That's where we're at. And shame
- 46:22Speaker 2: on you for not getting into it if you could
- 46:23Speaker 2: get into it. So, yeah, I'm going to be pouring
- 46:26Speaker 2: it on. Believe me on that. Right, right.
- 46:28Speaker 1: But here's the thing. You'll tell me, you know, you'll
- 46:32Speaker 1: tell me whether it was good or bad. I mean, that's. No,
- 46:36Speaker 1: I have to by law.
- 46:37Speaker 2: Right. What I report on the radio just now is audited.
- 46:40Speaker 2: I can't just say. Right. Arbitrarily, we made 5% when
- 46:44Speaker 2: I actually lost 2%. That's against the law. I'm telling you.
- 46:46Speaker 10: Right.
- 46:47Speaker 2: I'm going to be giving you to the extent what
- 46:49Speaker 2: it did.
- 46:49Speaker 1: Can I tell you I'm looking forward to the first week?
- 46:52Speaker 2: Oh, I know you are.
- 46:56Speaker 1: You're damn right I am.
- 46:57Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. If we're even half, let's
- 47:00Speaker 2: say that we're like even half as good as we
- 47:03Speaker 2: were last year, okay?
- 47:04Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 47:04Speaker 2: And I'm like in November, we're already up 40%. You
- 47:10Speaker 2: don't think I'll be coming on the radio and telling
- 47:11Speaker 2: people what's up? You don't think I'll be bragging about that? Yeah,
- 47:14Speaker 2: absolutely I am. But I'm going to do it the
- 47:16Speaker 2: legal way. I'm going to do it with audited results. Right.
- 47:19Speaker 1: Or if it's down, that's the part I love about
- 47:21Speaker 1: it all.
- 47:22Speaker 2: No, I'm going to be a man about it. Right.
- 47:24Speaker 2: You know, we took one on the chin or we
- 47:27Speaker 2: just had a bad market. We still beat the market,
- 47:29Speaker 2: but we're down 2%. Right. The math is going to
- 47:32Speaker 2: be whatever it is.
- 47:33Speaker 1: Right. And that's what I enjoy the most. And I
- 47:36Speaker 1: think you know it. You know I love those results.
- 47:40Speaker 2: All right.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Now, talk a little bit about, folks, here, if you're
- 47:43Speaker 1: interested in the John Arnold Hedge Fund. Wait, we lost him.
- 47:47Speaker 1: We lost him. Oh, call me back, John. Call me back.
- 47:51Speaker 1: You've got to talk more about the John Arnold Hedge
- 47:53Speaker 1: Fund and how to get in it. That's what we,
- 47:57Speaker 1: wait a second.
- 47:57Speaker 2: Are you there? Hello.
- 47:59Speaker 4: Hello.
- 48:00Speaker 2: Hey, Ron, I apologize. All right.
- 48:02Speaker 1: You almost got me nervous because I want you to
- 48:05Speaker 1: tell people I've been saying, how do you get into
- 48:07Speaker 1: the hedge fund? How do you make contact you as
- 48:11Speaker 1: far as email and a phone number? All right, folks.
- 48:15Speaker 1: So you heard John talking about it. They talked about
- 48:18Speaker 1: the four criterias. Here's how you get the ball rolling
- 48:22Speaker 1: if you're interested in.
- 48:25Speaker 2: All right, phone number 330-288-7709, 330-288-7709.
- 48:33Speaker 1: I want to be able to write it down slowly
- 48:36Speaker 1: so when people ask me, I can remember. All right,
- 48:38Speaker 1: say it again.
- 48:38Speaker 2: 330-288-7709.
- 48:40Speaker 4: All right, that's a phone number to call if you're
- 48:48Speaker 4: interested in getting in the John Arnold's Edge Fund.
- 48:51Speaker 1: There's also an email address, correct? Correct.
- 48:54Speaker 2: Yes, J-O-N period Arnold at theinvestment.coach. I'll repeat, J-O-N period
- 49:06Speaker 2: Arnold at theinvestment.coach.
- 49:11Speaker 1: All right,. coach. All right, there you have it. All right, John.
- 49:18Speaker 1: Quick hour, buddy. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on with us.
- 49:21Speaker 5: It really was.
- 49:21Speaker 2: Great show as always.
- 49:22Speaker 1: All right. So John Arnold's Thursday, 6 o'clock. All right.
- 49:26Speaker 1: It's going to be interesting. Join us every Thursday with
- 49:30Speaker 1: John Arnold's and Money Talks on NewsRadio 570. Hey, appreciate
- 49:35Speaker 1: you listening. It's a wonderful evening, 72 degrees. Sorry to
- 49:38Speaker 1: hear about Schwebel's. Ron Ver from the Kingdom of Mahoning
- 49:40Speaker 1: wishing you a great night. We'll be off.
- 49:51Speaker 5: From ABC News, I'm Dave Packer.
- 49:54Speaker 11: President Trump is facing mixed reaction to the ceasefire.
- 49:57Speaker 5: Deal with Iran.
- 49:58Speaker 11: The deal extends the ceasefire for 60 days, reopens the
- 50:01Speaker 11: Strait of Hormuz and ends the U.S.
- 50:03Speaker 5: Blockade.
- 50:04Speaker 11: But the key sticking point behind it all remains unaddressed,
- 50:06Speaker 11: Iran's nuclear program. Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer on the
- 50:10Speaker 11: Senate floor today.
- 50:11Speaker 10: Everyone who bought Trump's book, The Art of the Deal,
- 50:15Speaker 10: ought to ask him for a refund. Because what Trump
- 50:19Speaker 10: has done in Iran is the art of the disaster.
- 50:22Speaker 5: ABC's Selena Wang.
- 50:23Speaker 9: There's actually bipartisan concern that this deal gives a lot
- 50:27Speaker 9: of wins to Iran. In fact, this is not a
- 50:29Speaker 9: final agreement even. This is a framework of a deal
- 50:32Speaker 9: that gives 60 days to hammer out. that final agreement.
- 50:36Speaker 9: And when it comes to what Iran gets from this,
- 50:38Speaker 9: the U.S. will lift that naval blockade, allow Iran to
- 50:41Speaker 9: immediately resume selling oil, which is a big win for
- 50:44Speaker 9: Iran because that lifts major economic pressure from Iran.
- 50:49Speaker 11: Cleanup is underway in parts of the Midwest following another
- 50:52Speaker 11: bout of severe weather and in parts of the Gulf
- 50:54Speaker 11: Coast following what's left of Tropical Storm Arthur. ABC meteorologist
- 50:58Speaker 11: Leslie Lopez says flash flood emergencies have been popping up
- 51:01Speaker 11: from Louisiana to Mississippi.
- 51:03Speaker 12: Flooding is going to be the main concern right immediately
- 51:05Speaker 12: along the coast, but also now moving inland. Post-tropical storm
- 51:08Speaker 12: Arthur is moving out into areas of Mississippi, Alabama, getting
- 51:12Speaker 12: into areas of it looks like Georgia as well. And
- 51:15Speaker 12: with that, it's leaving behind flood watches, also flood emergencies.
- 51:19Speaker 11: Luigi Mangione's lawyers told a judge today that he will
- 51:22Speaker 11: no longer be asserting a psychiatric defense at a state
- 51:25Speaker 11: murder trial in the killing of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson
- 51:28Speaker 11: just a day after telling the judge that they would.
- 51:31Speaker 11: President Trump today awarded the Medal of Honor to three
- 51:33Speaker 11: war veterans, including Major James Capers.
- 51:37Speaker 2: Jim, the nation kept you waiting far too long.
- 51:42Speaker 1: So I say to you, congratulations.
- 51:44Speaker 2: You made it.
- 51:45Speaker 5: You're listening to ABC News.
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- 52:50Speaker 11: Supreme Court today ruled on whether habitual drug users can
- 52:53Speaker 11: legally own firearms. ABC's Devin Dwyer covers the court.
- 52:56Speaker 7: The Supreme Court's decision was unanimous, ruling that a long-standing
- 53:01Speaker 7: federal ban on guns from lawful users of any controlled
- 53:04Speaker 7: substance is unconstitutional, especially as applied to a Texas man
- 53:09Speaker 7: who simply consumed marijuana several times a week and was prosecuted.
- 53:14Speaker 5: The opinion by Justice Neil Gorsuch said..
- 53:16Speaker 11: It limits but does not end the government's power to
- 53:19Speaker 11: take guns away from drug users. A raisin company heir
- 53:22Speaker 11: is now facing hate crime charges in California.
- 53:25Speaker 6: Bruce Lyon is a 64-year-old heir to Lyon Raisins, one
- 53:29Speaker 6: of the world's largest raisin companies. He's now charged by L.A.
- 53:32Speaker 6: County's district attorney with a felony hate crime count for
- 53:35Speaker 6: allegedly threatening to kill a rabbi neighbor at his home
- 53:38Speaker 6: in Pacific Palisades. He was arrested after allegedly making repeated
- 53:42Speaker 6: anti-Semitic and racist remarks toward the rabbi In a statement,
- 53:45Speaker 6: Lion Raisins, based in Fresno, says the alleged conduct does
- 53:49Speaker 6: not reflect the values of Lion Raisins. Alex Stone, ABC News,
- 53:53Speaker 6: Los Angeles.
- 53:54Speaker 11: The United Arab Emirates has become the first Arab country
- 53:57Speaker 11: to set a minimum age for social media use, joining
- 54:00Speaker 11: other nations in placing age restrictions on social media. Under
- 54:03Speaker 11: a new law introduced today, children under 15 will be
- 54:06Speaker 11: prohibited from creating, using, or operating social media accounts. The
- 54:10Speaker 11: ban means they will not be able to post content, comment,
- 54:14Speaker 11: or share or join public groups.
- 54:16Speaker 5: Dave Packer, ABC News.
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