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2025 Army Navy Show with Gregg Bell and Jessamyn McIntyre · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Baltimore Convention Center and
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  Speaker 1: the Army Navy Game Media Row presented by USAA in Baltimore.
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  Speaker 1: This is our special Army Navy broadcast on your home
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  Speaker 1: for College Football Now with jessemn McIntyre.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Greg Bell.
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  Speaker 3: Good afternoon.
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  Speaker 4: This is my favorite show of the year, by far
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  Speaker 4: Jessmon McIntyre, Greg Bell. We're at the one and twenty
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  Speaker 4: sixth Army Navy Game, brought to you by USAA. We're
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  Speaker 4: at the Baltimore Convention Center, right next to Oriel Park
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  Speaker 4: at Camden Yards, which is right next to M and
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  Speaker 4: T Stadium, the Ravens Home Stadium where we'll be tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: for the Army Navy game Army six and six against
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  Speaker 4: Navy nine to three. But the game is so much
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  Speaker 4: bigger than that in records. We've got a host of
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  Speaker 4: guests lined up for you. You hit from Mike Mayock, the
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  Speaker 4: former Raiders general manager, former New York Giants defensive back.
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  Speaker 4: We are here from Lieutenant Colonel Stephen Gillian. He's the
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  Speaker 4: superintendent of the United States Military Academy. Momentarily perhaps supposed
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  Speaker 4: to hear from John Harbaugh, coach of the Baltimore Ravens,
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  Speaker 4: nobody else on radio rows getting him. Justin McIntyre lined
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  Speaker 4: up John Harbaugh to talk about his military influence. He
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  Speaker 4: takes the Ravens to Gettysburg for tour staff rides and
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  Speaker 4: learning about the military and brotherhood. Mike McDonald, the Seahawks coach,
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  Speaker 4: is a protege of Mike of John Harbaugh. And we
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  Speaker 4: will talk live to John Harbaugh from Ravens headquarters calling
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  Speaker 4: in momentarily all of that and tons more and Jessmin
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  Speaker 4: I say it every year, but especially this year. In
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  Speaker 4: college football and college athletics, the Army Navy game stands alone.
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  Speaker 4: The players on the field tomorrow, one hundred and five
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  Speaker 4: players for each team, two hundred and ten players, none
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  Speaker 4: of whom get a dollar of nil money. None its
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  Speaker 4: federal law prohibits them from receiving nil funding. It's actually
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  Speaker 4: real football. It's not players that are trying to seek
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  Speaker 4: a payday. It's not college athletes who are trying to
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  Speaker 4: find the next school they can go to, say can transfer.
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  Speaker 3: It's guys that.
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  Speaker 4: Are here to serve their country, to serve their brothers,
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  Speaker 4: to serve each other, to serve where they came from
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  Speaker 4: their hometowns.
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  Speaker 3: What they stand for.
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  Speaker 4: That's what the Army Navy game is and when you
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  Speaker 4: tune in tomorrow, that's the tableau, that's the context. That's
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  Speaker 4: what you feel when you come here, and if you've
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  Speaker 4: never been to one, everyone turns around here the first
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  Speaker 4: time er say this, that bucket list. It truly is
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  Speaker 4: a sports event unlike any other, and you feel that
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  Speaker 4: when you come here. Jess, when we've talked about this,
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  Speaker 4: this is your fourth time. This is my twentieth Army
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  Speaker 4: Navy game, counting the four I had as a cadet
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  Speaker 4: in the West Point class of nineteen ninety three, and
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  Speaker 4: it is indeed a sports event like no other, and
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  Speaker 4: you feel it when you're here.
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  Speaker 5: I felt it, you know, my first year.
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  Speaker 6: Like I've talked about all day, you know, full disclosure,
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  Speaker 6: we do have a lot that we have already taped
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  Speaker 6: with because people were here earlier in the day. And
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  Speaker 6: that's what I kept on saying, and that is the
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  Speaker 6: tenor of everyone that you'll hear from today throughout.
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  Speaker 5: The show, is that you feel it. It's an only game.
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  Speaker 6: I've been sideline reporting for fourteen seasons and I had
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  Speaker 6: grew up in football. I have never never felt a
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  Speaker 6: game the way I did that first time when I
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  Speaker 6: went to an Army Navy in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 5: It was unbelievable.
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  Speaker 3: They say, sing second. Here, that's the goal tomorrow.
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  Speaker 4: The student athletes, the cadets, the midshipmen, and the student bodies,
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  Speaker 4: the entire student bodies come here by bus. They all
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  Speaker 4: go on to the field at the end of the
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  Speaker 4: game to sing the alma maters, and both players from
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  Speaker 4: both sides stand at attention walk to the respected ends
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  Speaker 4: of the field. They stand at attention for each other's
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  Speaker 4: school's alma mater, and the team that wins the game
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  Speaker 4: sings second. Everywhere I go among military academy graduates, whether
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  Speaker 4: it be Army or Navy, they asked me what my
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  Speaker 4: record was in my four years at West Point.
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  Speaker 3: We were two and two.
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  Speaker 4: By the way, my sophomore year we lost to zero
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  Speaker 4: to ten Navy on a field goal in the meadowlands,
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  Speaker 4: and as a freezing cold night, that's all talk about.
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  Speaker 4: What was your record against Army? What's your record against Navy?
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  Speaker 4: Lieutenant General Stephen Gillian is sitting down across from the
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  Speaker 4: table from us. He's a superintendent of the United States
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  Speaker 4: Military Academy. He's an annual guest on the show here
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  Speaker 4: on ninety three point three k JRFM.
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  Speaker 3: Sarah, as always, it's great to see you, and he.
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  Speaker 7: No, it's great seeing you. I appreciate it. Thank you, No,
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  Speaker 7: thank you, it's great.
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  Speaker 3: SENI you Yeah, you too.
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  Speaker 4: Jeneral Gilly is class of nineteen ninety from West Point.
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  Speaker 4: He knows exactly what this game stands for. And sir,
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  Speaker 4: we talk to you every year, but especially now in
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  Speaker 4: college athletics, with the environment college athletics and the NIL
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  Speaker 4: and all of it is how special it is to
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  Speaker 4: shepherd these young men and women into this environment of
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  Speaker 4: selflessness around a context of maybe it is not selfless anymore.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's uh, well, one, I think it
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  Speaker 7: says something to America when you look at the two
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  Speaker 7: programs that are out there tomorrow and we with the
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  Speaker 7: Naval Academy and the Army team, and that we have
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  Speaker 7: both enjoyed some success over the past couple of years
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  Speaker 7: in the heart of this inn.
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  Speaker 8: I l And so what's that mean?
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  Speaker 7: I mean, neither program has got five and four stars,
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  Speaker 7: all right, those players went somewhere else. But we've demonstrated success.
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  Speaker 7: And I don't mean just in terms of a winning record,
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  Speaker 7: But I mean in winning championships, winning bowl games, and uh,
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  Speaker 7: I think there's a message there in that, you know,
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  Speaker 7: commitment to a program, development of your players over time. Uh,
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  Speaker 7: you know, dedication to each other, dedication to coaches, coaches
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  Speaker 7: dedicated to them.
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  Speaker 8: Uh.
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  Speaker 7: There's no dollar signs involved. Now, I think I told
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  Speaker 7: you this before. Remember, I mean we were the first
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  Speaker 7: to start in I L yes, okay, because our our
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  Speaker 7: cadets have been getting paid for you know, since the beginning,
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  Speaker 7: not quite not quite the dollar signs that others are,
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  Speaker 7: but none less being paid as cadet athletes and that
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  Speaker 7: and but every cadet gets paid the same.
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  Speaker 8: Uh. And so I think that I do.
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  Speaker 7: I think that message is pretty powerful in that when
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  Speaker 7: you take teams, because it's a team effort in the end,
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  Speaker 7: it's not an individual effort.
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  Speaker 8: And that's just what the Army is about, you know.
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  Speaker 7: I I tell people all the time, the Army is
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  Speaker 7: a team contact sport. All Right, you're gonna get knocked
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  Speaker 7: in the mouth, You're gonna get knocked down, You're gonna
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  Speaker 7: get bloodied.
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  Speaker 8: And what are you gonna do?
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  Speaker 7: You're gonna get back up, right, You're gonna you're gonna
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  Speaker 7: get back in the fight. You might, you might stagger
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  Speaker 7: back a little bit, but guess what, there's an expectation.
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  Speaker 8: You don't quit, you don't give up.
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  Speaker 7: And that's what I think our young people really develop
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  Speaker 7: over the course of four years at the at the
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  Speaker 7: service academies.
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  Speaker 8: And uh, you.
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  Speaker 7: Know it's also I say, don't don't give up. It's
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  Speaker 7: so don't give up on yourself. Don't give up on
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  Speaker 7: your teammates, right, which you know if you transfer somewhere else.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, the army is about.
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  Speaker 7: Relationships also, and how do you build those relationships over time?
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  Speaker 7: If you're going from place to place to play football
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  Speaker 7: or basketball or whatever sport, are you really developing relationships?
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  Speaker 7: What does that equate to twenty thirty, forty years from now?
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  Speaker 8: You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, they don't think about that, sir. It's a
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  Speaker 4: quick visit. I'm sorry, we're heading out.
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  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The general manager of the Oakland right, former gentlemanager of
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  Speaker 4: Las Vegas Raiders, Mike mac former defensive back for the
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  Speaker 4: New York Giants. He's also sitting down next to us
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  Speaker 4: right here on Radio Row. Mike, thanks for sitting down
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  Speaker 4: with us.
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  Speaker 3: Today.
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  Speaker 9: It's great to be here and you're wearing your West
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  Speaker 9: Point very proudly.
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  Speaker 3: To appreciate that. I appreciate you telling the listeners what
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  Speaker 3: I got. Well.
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  Speaker 9: I mean after last year, you'd be a little more
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  Speaker 9: bashful I would.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty one thirteen maybe with thanks Mike, I forget about that.
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  Speaker 9: Well, that was my old Bill Parcels thing. You build
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  Speaker 9: a guy up and then you take them down.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, Mike was born and raised in Philadelphia, right, so
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  Speaker 4: he is ingrained.
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  Speaker 3: In the Army Navy game. The home of the Army
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  Speaker 3: Navy Game.
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  Speaker 4: It's now moved around a little bit sense, but as
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  Speaker 4: a kid growing up someone into sports, what the Army
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  Speaker 4: Navy Game mean to you and your city.
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  Speaker 9: So my dad was a high school and college coach,
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  Speaker 9: and we grew up in Overbrook, which is part of
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  Speaker 9: West Philadelphia. And in the old days, back when I
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  Speaker 9: was growing up, there was one hundred thousand seat stadium
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  Speaker 9: Franklin No, not Franklin Field, Oh no, it was JFK.
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  Speaker 2: It was JFK.
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  Speaker 3: That's right right next to Veteran Stadium, that's right.
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  Speaker 9: And it only hosted one game a year, and it
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  Speaker 9: was Army Navy one hundred thousand people. My dad played
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  Speaker 9: in it, not in the game, but in that stadium
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  Speaker 9: because he played at Villanova and I forget who they
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  Speaker 9: played there, But at the end of the day, my
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  Speaker 9: dad talked a lot about that game, and it was
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  Speaker 9: something where we'd watch the game on television. I had
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  Speaker 9: a few uncles that were in the Army, and just
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  Speaker 9: our family was one of respect and thankfulness for what
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  Speaker 9: those people do for us.
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  Speaker 4: In the city of Philadelphia, it just embraces it. As
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  Speaker 4: a cadet going there for four years, it's still my
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  Speaker 4: favorite place to have the Army Navy game for what
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  Speaker 4: the city.
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  Speaker 3: Does for it obviously means something to Philadelphians.
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  Speaker 9: Well, Philly will embrace a party.
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  Speaker 3: And form is that.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, everything Philly does, it kind of does to
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  Speaker 9: the maximum. But I think Philly did take a pride
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  Speaker 9: in that game because for so long before it started
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  Speaker 9: to rotate like it does, it was the sole home
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  Speaker 9: of Army Navy, and I really do believe the city
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  Speaker 9: took a lot of pride in that game.
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  Speaker 2: And it's yeah, So.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, the hard thing for me was I left
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  Speaker 9: Philly to go to Boston College and then I had
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  Speaker 9: to play Army in Navy every year, and I hated
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  Speaker 9: it because, like I had a chip on my shoulder
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  Speaker 9: because Penn State didn't offer me. I wanted to play
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  Speaker 9: at Penn State. Every Army Navy player I ever met
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  Speaker 9: is pissed off with multiple chips because they didn't get
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  Speaker 9: recruited by whomever they wanted. So when they came out
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  Speaker 9: to play Boston College, they were all made at me
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  Speaker 9: and that's why.
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  Speaker 2: And they took it out on me.
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  Speaker 9: And they all ran the wishbone and there were no then.
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  Speaker 9: They could chop, you could cut, you could do anything.
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  Speaker 3: It was.
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  Speaker 9: It was and you you knew somebody was going to
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  Speaker 9: rip a knee. You just hoped it wasn't going to
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  Speaker 9: be you.
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  Speaker 6: That No, That's what I was gonna say is the
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  Speaker 6: uniqueness of the game isn't just the pageantry.
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  Speaker 5: It's the actual style of the game.
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  Speaker 6: And if you were a you know, a traditional college program, yeah,
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  Speaker 6: it's hard to prepare for one hundred percent.
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  Speaker 9: If you look at what they do in the American
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  Speaker 9: Athletic Conference a year ago, Army was undefeated eight no
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  Speaker 9: in the conference they played. I think it was Tulane
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  Speaker 9: in the championship game, and I think the tough. Part
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  Speaker 9: of that, just as a segue, is that Navy was
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  Speaker 9: at home with a bye that week, and Army had
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  Speaker 9: to play a blood bath against Tlane in a championship
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  Speaker 9: game and flip around the next week and play a
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  Speaker 9: Navy team that was well rested and ready to go.
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  Speaker 9: Even though none of the Army or Navy players or
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  Speaker 9: coaches would admit it, you know, Navy went seven and
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  Speaker 9: one in the league this year along with two other teams,
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  Speaker 9: and they were the odd man out. I think for
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  Speaker 9: the purity the same of the Army Navy game. I
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  Speaker 9: think it's good because both teams have a week off,
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  Speaker 9: both teams come in as healthy as they're going to be,
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  Speaker 9: and I think we're going to see a great game.
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  Speaker 4: The quick snat Mike Mayak Western One Sports will be
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  Speaker 4: on the call tomorrow on the National Broadcast Radio broadcast
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  Speaker 4: here from Baltimore. That's a three pm Eastern noon kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: Stay outle time. Your quick synopsis of the game. Your
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  Speaker 4: Navy's favored. Yeah, a nine win team that's had a
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  Speaker 4: really good day about Forrvath is a great quarterback. But
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  Speaker 4: your synopsis, this game is always almost always tight. But
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  Speaker 4: how do you see Army competing with a nine win
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  Speaker 4: Navy team.
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  Speaker 9: I think every year it comes down to who wins
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  Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage, And last year Army had the
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  Speaker 9: Joe More offensive line group, in other words, the best
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  Speaker 9: O line in the country, as voted by a group
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  Speaker 9: of former players and coaches. It meant something, right what
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  Speaker 9: happened in the game, Landon Robinson, the nose tackle from Navy,
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  Speaker 9: destroyed it. He had thirteen tackles and even snapped him
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  Speaker 9: a ball in the punt and he ran a twenty
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  Speaker 9: nine years fake bunks for a touchdown. So whoever wins
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  Speaker 9: the line of scrimmage wins his game is the way
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  Speaker 9: I look at it.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 9: Beyond that, Navy's got better skill position players this year.
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  Speaker 9: They've got a group of sophomores that are now seniors
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  Speaker 9: that are really good. Eli Heidenreich the slot. He's going
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  Speaker 9: to the East West game. He's number twenty two. He'll
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  Speaker 9: be in if he doesn't get drafted, he'll be in
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  Speaker 9: a camp and he think I think we'll get drafted
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  Speaker 9: on the third day.
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  Speaker 2: He's really good.
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  Speaker 9: The quarterback Corvath you mentioned, special three year starter, knows
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  Speaker 9: what this game is all about. He's really good. Chapman
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  Speaker 9: the other tailback, really good. They've got better skill than
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  Speaker 9: Army does. But at the end of the day, if
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  Speaker 9: Army dominates both sides of the line of scrimmage, it's
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  Speaker 9: a different story.
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  Speaker 6: One of the questions I was going to ask related
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  Speaker 6: to this game, but broader perspective, This is almost a
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  Speaker 6: last real college football game that exists, so like kind
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  Speaker 6: of the last two true college football teams. These kids
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  Speaker 6: aren't transfer portaling like everybody else is these days.
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  Speaker 4: Reminder how much nil money will be on the field
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow and I'm on two hundred and ten players, zero
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  Speaker 4: zero dollars and zero sets.
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  Speaker 3: However, they do get paid, they do, and they they
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  Speaker 3: pay on the other end as well.
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  Speaker 8: Exactly right.
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  Speaker 6: What is your take on the current state of college
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  Speaker 6: football as we try to wrap our heads around.
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  Speaker 9: Oh, we don't have enough time for this conversation. Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I will try. It's the wild, wild West right now,
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  Speaker 9: which I don't like. There needs to be more curbs
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  Speaker 9: to just more rules, and they're trying to put them
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  Speaker 9: in place right now, but teams are already finding ways
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  Speaker 9: around it. I mean, so now that they're saying, oh,
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  Speaker 9: you can have twenty million dollars per program, and you
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  Speaker 9: can divide it up by sports however you want, and
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  Speaker 9: all the kind of stuff they're saying. You're also still
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  Speaker 9: allowed INIL on top of that, and schools are figuring
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  Speaker 9: that thing out. So I think it's going to continue
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  Speaker 9: to be the haves and the have nots. Like I mentioned,
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  Speaker 9: I went to Boston College. It's gonna be hard for
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  Speaker 9: Boston College to stay at that level and compete or
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  Speaker 9: write don't know, and it's a great question, but they've
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  Speaker 9: got Bill O'Brien as their head coach and they want
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  Speaker 9: to compete at that level. I mean, it's similar for Stanford,
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  Speaker 9: it's similar for Duke, it's similar for Vanderbilt in the SEC.
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  Speaker 9: And they got a freak named Diego Pavia who's one
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  Speaker 9: of the fourth finalists for the Heisman. So they're competing
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  Speaker 9: this year, but the state of college football is different.
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  Speaker 9: What I would tell you, which is kind of intriguing,
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  Speaker 9: is that Army's three best sophomores from last year most
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  Speaker 9: talented sophomores all went into portal YEP.
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  Speaker 3: At Georgia, their leading pass rusher.
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  Speaker 9: Medozie, who was an edge rusher, and when I put
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  Speaker 9: the tape in last year. He's the first I went, wow,
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  Speaker 9: that doesn't look like an Army Navy kid. Length twitch
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  Speaker 9: quicks off their full back udo is at Arizona State,
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  Speaker 9: I think, and they had a corner that went to Virginia.
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  Speaker 9: So Army lost three kids of the portal. Navy didn't
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  Speaker 9: lose any. But it just shows you that there are
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  Speaker 9: some high level Division one athletes both schools.
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  Speaker 4: For those of you who don't understand, the military academy
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  Speaker 4: rules still exists that if you sit for your first
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  Speaker 4: day of your junior year academic year, you are then
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  Speaker 4: committed to serving in the military, but you can leave
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  Speaker 4: up until that point.
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  Speaker 3: In fact, was looking at tred Bring the end of
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  Speaker 3: my sophomore year.
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  Speaker 2: I hated it.
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  Speaker 3: But then you get to the point.
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  Speaker 4: Then you get to the point where like, wait, I
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  Speaker 4: put in all this work, I'm gonna get the damn
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  Speaker 4: degree and get my commission. But Mike's Mike Mayock joining
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  Speaker 4: us here in the Army Navy game. He's mentioning the
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  Speaker 4: Army transfers. We're in the state of college athletics now,
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  Speaker 4: jessmen that if an Army or Navy or Air FORCET
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  Speaker 4: player is that good. He needs to determine before his
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: junior year that I'm gone to go play major college
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: nil football. And there's that crossroads comes at the end
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: of the sophomore year because once you're in a junior
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: you're serving the military.
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: So that's what the.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Context for that Mike shifting gears to the NFL audience
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: in Seattle. We've got a ten and three team, you do,
• 15:52
  Speaker 4: but we also have a quarterback who leads the NFL
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: in turnovers, and Sam Darnold.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: When he's on, he's Jackson Smith and jigbaw On.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: Is it a concern from the outside that a team
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: that is this good, with this good of a Mike
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: McDonald defense has a quarterback turning it over at this rate,
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: or you think that they have a defense to mitigate that.
• 16:11
  Speaker 9: They're scoring twenty nine points a game. The Donald thing
• 16:15
  Speaker 9: is so intriguing to me, No different than Daniel Jones
• 16:19
  Speaker 9: unfortunately just got hurt.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Geno Smith.
• 16:22
  Speaker 9: All these kind of reprocessed former first round picks that
• 16:27
  Speaker 9: are now doing well when they finally get to the
• 16:29
  Speaker 9: right fit, and I think last year he found a
• 16:31
  Speaker 9: fit in Minnesota. Kevin O'Donnell is a quarterback whisperer he
• 16:36
  Speaker 9: goes out.
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: To Seattle, continues.
• 16:38
  Speaker 9: My concern last year wasn't necessarily you know, people want
• 16:41
  Speaker 9: to say the playoffs were. I thought in the red
• 16:44
  Speaker 9: zone last year, a week seventeen eighteen, whatever it was
• 16:49
  Speaker 9: against Detroit, I thought he had trouble pulling the trigger
• 16:53
  Speaker 9: in the red zone. That's the hardest place for a
• 16:55
  Speaker 9: quarterback because the decisions have to be so quick and
• 16:58
  Speaker 9: you have to be so accurate, and the boss to
• 16:59
  Speaker 9: come out of me imediately. I'm anxious to see and
• 17:03
  Speaker 9: he's now you know, it's the toughest division in football
• 17:06
  Speaker 9: right now. Right so Seattle's got left Indy, the Rams,
• 17:12
  Speaker 9: at Carolina at San Francisco.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Good sir, I saw you were born a pipe place
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: market rather than that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Cheat notes help.
• 17:21
  Speaker 9: But what I what I'm really saying is that last
• 17:24
  Speaker 9: year at the end, he didn't play quite as well.
• 17:27
  Speaker 9: And it's gonna be intriguing for all of us to
• 17:29
  Speaker 9: see because if he protects the football and you see
• 17:33
  Speaker 9: the good Sam Donald, the consistent Sam Donald, I think
• 17:36
  Speaker 9: they can go anywhere they want to go. That defense
• 17:39
  Speaker 9: is so good.
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: You still do games NFL games for Western one as well.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Who's the best team you've seen, because it's a it's
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: a wide open league right now.
• 17:47
  Speaker 9: I've told people that most years by now I can
• 17:49
  Speaker 9: tell you one or two teams in each conference that
• 17:52
  Speaker 9: are going to get to the super Bowl. You know,
• 17:54
  Speaker 9: last year I thought it was definitely Philly in Kansas City.
• 17:57
  Speaker 9: This year, I can't even begin to tell you. I
• 17:58
  Speaker 9: could tell you that in the end, NFC, I think
• 18:01
  Speaker 9: the balance of power is in the West, with the
• 18:04
  Speaker 9: North really good. And it could you know, Detroit's defense
• 18:08
  Speaker 9: is decimated with injuries once again. If Love plays at
• 18:11
  Speaker 9: a consistently high level in Green Bay a lot like
• 18:14
  Speaker 9: Donald if Love doesn't vacillate, green Bay is a super
• 18:18
  Speaker 9: Bowl team. And I think Philly's kind of the wild card,
• 18:21
  Speaker 9: you know in the AFC. You know, I don't I
• 18:23
  Speaker 9: don't even know where to go with that. I mean,
• 18:24
  Speaker 9: Buffalo's coming on and so it's a wide open year.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: It is a wide open year. I got to ask
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: you quickly before we go. Sure, Philip Rivers forty four
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: years old, five years of retirement, can he produce Sunday
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: in Seattle with three days of practice off five years
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: of retirement?
• 18:40
  Speaker 9: I would say ninety nine percent of the mortals on
• 18:43
  Speaker 9: this earth that walked the earth, that played in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 9: NFL at the quarterback position, it couldn't even come close
• 18:50
  Speaker 9: to it. Philip Rivers is one of my favorite players
• 18:53
  Speaker 9: I've ever covered in my life, going back to college
• 18:56
  Speaker 9: at NC State the Senior Bowl where I sat and
• 18:58
  Speaker 9: talked to him and I thought he was the best
• 19:00
  Speaker 9: quarterback in the draft. He's involved with football, He's been
• 19:07
  Speaker 9: a coach. He probably throws at practice every day. He
• 19:09
  Speaker 9: probably stay like so could he do it for a
• 19:12
  Speaker 9: short period of time because of who he is and
• 19:14
  Speaker 9: his what what his mind. His mind can process as
• 19:18
  Speaker 9: quickly as ever. It's just whether or not his body
• 19:20
  Speaker 9: will answer. And I can't wait to.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: See Mike Mayock.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: He'll be on the Westman one call of the one
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy Game tomorrow from Baltimore, Marion.
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: Thank you, sir for joining us for Raiders general manager,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: quarterback in the Boston coltin and Philadelphia native who knows
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: this game very well.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us.
• 19:35
  Speaker 9: Give me my pleasure.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Thanks guy.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Thanks.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: We'll be back from Baltimore on the one hundred and
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth Army Navy Game brought to you by USAA
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: on ninety three point three kJ RFM.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast presented by
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: USAA in Baltimore at the Baltimore Convention Center. Here's Jessman
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: McIntyre and Greg Bell on Sports Radio ninety three f
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: kJ r FM.
• 20:05
  Speaker 10: Welcome back guy from Baltimore, Greg Bell the News Tribune
• 20:09
  Speaker 10: and Jessmin McIntyre, right, and honored to be with you
• 20:12
  Speaker 10: at the one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy Game,
• 20:14
  Speaker 10: the fourth time we've teamed up to do this.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: This is your super Bowl.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: It is favorite day, it is and it's I'm biased,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: of course. A nineteen ninety three West Point graduate. I
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: attended this institution the very first day I got to
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: West Point four what they call our.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Day reporting day.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: You walk into the gym, you say goodbye to your
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: family and your loved ones. You turn the corner and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: it just becomes a smoke show and you get absolutely
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: screamed at from the first second you turn that corner.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: As an eighteen seventeen year old high school senior, I
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: just had graduated from Stupenvill High School in Ohio fourteen
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: days before that. Our day, I turned the corner and
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: while they were screaming at me, they said, you will
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: address everyone that is not in your company with beat
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: navy ma'am, beat navy sir.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: That was the first thing I heard.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I mean, they were screaming at me, but the first
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: words I could I could make out were, you will
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: address everyone that is not in your company by beating
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: navy man, beat navy sir. If they're in your company.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: You had to say, go tell the spartans, ma'am, Go
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: tell the spartans. So that became a haze in itself
• 21:17
  Speaker 4: because you had I didn't know who anyone with my
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: company was because I had just shown up there.
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: Well, it's nice that they armed you with a phrase.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Yes, so yeah, fifty to fifty chants those first couple
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of days of getting it wrong. It either if you say,
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: go army, they were beating navy sir, beat navy man
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: to the wrong person.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: You got the flame for that too.
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: But oh yeah, so you have to be constant, tell
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: the spartans. But the point is it's ingrained in you
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: from the first moment.
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: Did you become a cadet, a.
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: New cadet, not even a cadet at the time, all
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: the way through graduation to beat Navy or at Annapolis
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: to beat Army, they do the same thing. The very
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: first thing your thought is to beat Navy at West Point,
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: and that resonates throughout everything that four year academy experiences,
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: and it culminates in this game. As I mentioned in
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: the very top, we're talking to Lieutenant General Stephen Gillen, who,
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: by the way, was supposed to go to another interview
• 22:10
  Speaker 4: and you turned when he saw me. He came up
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: to me said hey, Greg, I don't have too many
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: three star generals who go up and say hey Greg, Yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: I want to talk to you and Jesson and again
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: we talked every year.
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Can I do it? Let's go right now.
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: At at five, lieutenant colonel is trying to pull his
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: aid is trying to pull him to another interview, and
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: he said, no, I want to.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Go talk to Greg.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: He did I so he lit up when he walked
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: by here, and we had just you know, we have
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: obviously this is radio row, so we had everything kind
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: of segmented out and we had to find time for him.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I hope that my daughter can appreciate now that she's
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: going to be a Coast Guard Ensign and she's at
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: the Coast Guard Academy has senior right now, and she's
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: learning all these military ethis that in O eight Chasing Down,
• 22:55
  Speaker 4: her father wanted to talk to him. That's what the
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: Army Navy game is all about. Lieutenant Delian and I attend.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Jone Gilly and I have a relationship because we're both
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: West Point graduates. He was in nineteen ninety I was
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety three. The entire core of cadets and
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: brigade midshipman come to this game every year. And also
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: who comes to this game every year is Nate Boyer,
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: the former Seattle Seahawks, the former Texas Longhorn, self made
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: football player, Green Beret Bronze star.
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: Nate.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: You know, I could go on and on. He's sitting
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: right down with us at the Baltimore Convention Center here
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: on ninety three point three kJ r FM. Nate Boyer,
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: a former Army Green Bray Bronze Star, then went on
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: and walked on to the University of Texas football team,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: which is not exactly just walking onto your local squad.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Nate. It's so great to see you again, sir, to.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: See in a minute, it's but at least three and
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: sixty five days. Anyway, Seahawk fans remember you this summer.
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: You were there with the Seahawks long snapping in camp.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: The story goes that general manager John Schneider was more
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: broken up than you were when he cut you.
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Is that true? Oh?
• 24:04
  Speaker 11: Man, Yeah, I uh, I'll never forget his face. You know,
• 24:07
  Speaker 11: he felt so bad. But it was like that was
• 24:10
  Speaker 11: the game after I don't know if you remember, the
• 24:11
  Speaker 11: preseason game went to Varis Jackson. Yes, broke his foot,
• 24:14
  Speaker 11: so they brought in Jake Waters and it was like
• 24:16
  Speaker 11: they had to have a quarterback that day and it
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: was just my time unfortunately, was up. But but yeah,
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: he walked up to me and he kind of was,
• 24:24
  Speaker 11: you know, looking at I know people can't see me
• 24:26
  Speaker 11: right now, but uh he's just kind of looking off
• 24:28
  Speaker 11: and and you know, furling his brow and he was
• 24:31
  Speaker 11: just like, you know, I'm like it's okay. Yeah exactly.
• 24:38
  Speaker 11: I was like, hey man, I'm like I appreciate the opportunity.
• 24:41
  Speaker 11: And it was cool. But yeah, then reality hit. You know,
• 24:44
  Speaker 11: I'm in the airport two hours later and it's like
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: people are like, hey, aren't you And I'm like.
• 24:49
  Speaker 8: No, I got cut.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I just got cut.
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: For those that don't know your backstory, you tell us
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: about your time in the military, green beret, bronze star,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: what that means to civilians, how you earned that, what
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: combat you saw where for what unit, and then your
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: transitioned to civilian life in.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: The University of Texas.
• 25:09
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean I went into the Special Forces, or
• 25:12
  Speaker 11: wanted to go into the Special Forces because of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 11: motto really Depresso libert I remember that, which means to
• 25:19
  Speaker 11: free the oppressed. I remember reading that, and it was
• 25:22
  Speaker 11: after I'd just come back from the Sudan. I was
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: doing some relief work over there in Darfur, and I
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: knew I wanted to join the military. I wanted to
• 25:30
  Speaker 11: continue serving in some way. And I found out about
• 25:33
  Speaker 11: that unit, the Special Forces and the humanitarian side to
• 25:38
  Speaker 11: the mission, but also the AT and X ray program
• 25:42
  Speaker 11: where you could come in off the street if you
• 25:43
  Speaker 11: tested high enough on like language aptitude and you know,
• 25:46
  Speaker 11: the as Baptists and a psyche val and all this stuff,
• 25:50
  Speaker 11: then you could go.
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: Pretty much straight to tryouts.
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: You go to basic training, airborne school, and then Special
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: Forces selection. And I just figured, you know, what the
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: heck like worst happens, get cut or I don't make it,
• 26:01
  Speaker 11: and I'll end up in you know, in another great unit.
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: I'll be in the eighty second Airborne or something like that.
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: And I ended up making it and making it through,
• 26:09
  Speaker 11: and two years later, you know, I earned the Green
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: beret and whether oft in Okinawa first and then eventually
• 26:15
  Speaker 11: to Iraq and later to Afghanistan and and a few
• 26:19
  Speaker 11: other places in between. But but yeah, it was really
• 26:23
  Speaker 11: it was really because of that mission and you know,
• 26:26
  Speaker 11: foreign internal defense, you know, fighting alongside host nationals in
• 26:30
  Speaker 11: everything that we do. I thought that was important to
• 26:32
  Speaker 11: me to see that effect, I think firsthand, and you know,
• 26:35
  Speaker 11: to work alongside the people that were trying to help liberate.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Now that you're no longer in the military, what is
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: your and we'll talk a second to your many initiatives
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: that you're doing. Now, what is it that you miss
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: about the military? What is it you take about the
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: military that usually use in everyday life. It gives you
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: an advantage?
• 26:53
  Speaker 11: Oh man, I take a lot. You know, It's given
• 26:56
  Speaker 11: me a lot. It opened a lot of doors. But
• 26:58
  Speaker 11: it also yeah, it just it taught me that anything
• 27:04
  Speaker 11: is possible, you know, about resilience, and not knowing how
• 27:07
  Speaker 11: to quit, you know you kind of that's the one
• 27:09
  Speaker 11: thing you lose, which is great. I could also be
• 27:12
  Speaker 11: frustrated because you're stubborn and you'll never give up. But
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: but it's a great thing. I mean I I uh, yeah,
• 27:19
  Speaker 11: that the sacrifice to be elite. You know that you
• 27:23
  Speaker 11: have to same thing with athletes. But without the military,
• 27:27
  Speaker 11: I never would have tried that. I never would have
• 27:28
  Speaker 11: believed that it was possible for me to walk on
• 27:31
  Speaker 11: a Texas or you know, have a cup of coffee
• 27:33
  Speaker 11: with the Seahawks, Like that's crazy.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: How did you walk on to Texas? Did you have
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: any long snapping experience?
• 27:40
  Speaker 11: No, I never played football growing up.
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: Practice while you were on base, yeahstan or something.
• 27:48
  Speaker 11: So I walked on as a safety at Texas because
• 27:52
  Speaker 11: I figured, you know, I'm not the biggest guy in
• 27:53
  Speaker 11: the world that you're not.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: Walking onto the local community call Texas. I just from
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: there there's bad asses and then there's Nate Boyd.
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, don't tell me you can't do something right.
• 28:06
  Speaker 11: Don't tell me I can't please or do and I
• 28:08
  Speaker 11: will world try. But yeah, I think it was I
• 28:13
  Speaker 11: initially thought of maybe going somewhere smaller and it was
• 28:16
  Speaker 11: actually one of my buddies who was just like, go
• 28:18
  Speaker 11: for you gotta go big man.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And uh.
• 28:22
  Speaker 11: And last year, last year, this game was in DC
• 28:25
  Speaker 11: and Radio Row was you know, at Arlington, and that
• 28:29
  Speaker 11: was on December thirteenth, Radio Row last year because the
• 28:32
  Speaker 11: game was the fourteenth. This year of the game's on
• 28:33
  Speaker 11: the thirteenth. But December thirteenth, twenty twelve is when that
• 28:36
  Speaker 11: guy passed away. So he's buried at Arlington, so I
• 28:38
  Speaker 11: got to go visit him, you know, and thinking back
• 28:41
  Speaker 11: when you get to go to a place like that
• 28:43
  Speaker 11: and spend a little time with him and thinking and remembering,
• 28:47
  Speaker 11: like the only reason you went to Texas because Brad,
• 28:50
  Speaker 11: you know, and the only reason that whatever, because you
• 28:52
  Speaker 11: had these people, these great leaders in your life, you know.
• 28:54
  Speaker 11: So not the only reason. Of course we have to
• 28:57
  Speaker 11: be a part of doing that ourselves too, but like, uh,
• 29:00
  Speaker 11: you know, being inspired by someone like that, So it
• 29:03
  Speaker 11: was just that was It's special. This game is just
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: so special, you know.
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: And catch U up on what you're doing now. You're
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: a filmmaker.
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: You're doing for veterans causes, wounded warriors. I mean, you
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: are really extending yourself, well beyond your middle.
• 29:15
  Speaker 11: Yeah, well to speak on the film thing real quick.
• 29:18
  Speaker 11: So the MVP movie just went to Netflix slips speak.
• 29:21
  Speaker 11: So it's on Netflix.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 29:23
  Speaker 11: Yeah, it's really cool. Yeah, so we've had because of that.
• 29:27
  Speaker 11: It's helped so much with outreach too. I'm getting like
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: social media messages from people that are just like, I
• 29:32
  Speaker 11: didn't know what this was. I just watched this movie,
• 29:34
  Speaker 11: you know, really powerful and essentially the movies about a
• 29:37
  Speaker 11: marine who was living in a homeless shelter and a
• 29:39
  Speaker 11: former NFL player first year out of the league, and
• 29:41
  Speaker 11: they meet and they're going through the same struggles of
• 29:44
  Speaker 11: like losing that uniform. And it's it's got Randy Couture
• 29:47
  Speaker 11: and Tony Gonzalez and Michael Strand and how we Long
• 29:50
  Speaker 11: have a cameo in it. They play themselves, you know,
• 29:53
  Speaker 11: and every VET portrayed on screen is played by an
• 29:56
  Speaker 11: actual veteran. But it's about the genesis of merging vets
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: and players. That's what MVP means in our world. And
• 30:02
  Speaker 11: you know, there's just so many similarities. Of course, the
• 30:05
  Speaker 11: battlefield the ball field different, but that locker room and
• 30:08
  Speaker 11: the camaraderie, the structure, the identity with that uniform very
• 30:12
  Speaker 11: similar and losing that can be tough, you know, And
• 30:15
  Speaker 11: so that's that's what the charity does. That's what the
• 30:16
  Speaker 11: organization does. We encourage and bring together our that's and
• 30:20
  Speaker 11: athletes and help them walk that walk.
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that was one thing I was going to say.
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: When you're describing the similarities taking off a uniform, your
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: whole identity is wrapped up there. But you know, former
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: player and form were veteran. Those are two different languages,
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: but you speak both of them, you know. Is that
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: kind of where you went with that, where you saw
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: both sides and you understood the feeling on both sides
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: of it totally.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 11: I didn't even know how realize how lucky I was
• 30:44
  Speaker 11: to have a football locker room to go to when
• 30:48
  Speaker 11: I came out of the military, Like I wasn't thinking
• 30:50
  Speaker 11: about it yet, being be an affecter would be like.
• 30:54
  Speaker 11: And then it was after that, it was after poor
• 30:58
  Speaker 11: John Schneider had to cut me that that I really
• 31:01
  Speaker 11: That's where I kind of hit me all at once.
• 31:02
  Speaker 11: It was like, I'm no longer in the military, I'm
• 31:04
  Speaker 11: no longer football player.
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: Are Like what am I? Who am I?
• 31:07
  Speaker 11: What do I you know, I was thirty four, felt
• 31:09
  Speaker 11: like I still had, you know, a lot in the
• 31:11
  Speaker 11: tank and feeling like you've peaked, you'll never be great
• 31:14
  Speaker 11: again is a tough thing, could be a scary thing.
• 31:16
  Speaker 11: So yeah, that was just being in both of those
• 31:21
  Speaker 11: locker rooms and experiencing that. Because the language it is different,
• 31:24
  Speaker 11: but you know, it's kind of like the difference between
• 31:26
  Speaker 11: Spanish and Portuguese, Like there's a lot of similarities.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Analogy.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: This is the voided voice of Nate Boyer. He's the
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: ex Green Beret Bronze or recipient Special Forces in the
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: US Army, served in combat. He inspired Colin Kaepernick to
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: kneel instead of sitting during the national anthem about a
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: half dozen years ago. He's joining us here from the
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Army Navy game on ninety three point three.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: KJR.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: Briefly revisit that for US, Nate, that tumultuous time, and yeah,
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: and Colin Kaepernick was pillared by much of society for
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: what he was doing, and you stepped in and you
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: found a new common ground for him that I think
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: resonated with a lot of people. How did you become
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: involved in that and how he became receptive to that?
• 32:11
  Speaker 11: Yeah, I h So that was a year after I
• 32:14
  Speaker 11: was in Seattle, so I believe it or not, was
• 32:16
  Speaker 11: ten years ago that Seattle, So it was nine years ago.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: He was still good as young as the day I met.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know about that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 11: You got a few more grades, but yeah, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 11: Kap had been, uh, he'd been sitting on the bench
• 32:28
  Speaker 11: for a couple of games during the anthem and somebody,
• 32:31
  Speaker 11: a reporter interviewed him about it and asked, is a
• 32:34
  Speaker 11: reason you're doing that? And he said, yeah, I'm not
• 32:36
  Speaker 11: going to stand for the flag of a country that
• 32:39
  Speaker 11: oppresses black people and people with color. He also said
• 32:42
  Speaker 11: a lot of other stuff that we didn't get to hear,
• 32:45
  Speaker 11: you know, or maybe you'd have to dig to find it,
• 32:47
  Speaker 11: but including things like I got a lot of respect
• 32:49
  Speaker 11: for the military and and all kinds of stuff. And
• 32:52
  Speaker 11: really the meat potatoes of why he was doing it,
• 32:54
  Speaker 11: you know, is the focus of it being about you know,
• 32:58
  Speaker 11: essentially enforcement when they're in the wrong, you know, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 11: gunning down unarmed people of color that's not and not
• 33:07
  Speaker 11: being held accountable. You know, what he thought was the
• 33:10
  Speaker 11: punishment wasn't fitting the crime. Essentially, this is what I'm
• 33:14
  Speaker 11: speaking out for like that was what he was, why
• 33:16
  Speaker 11: he was doing what he was doing, And there was
• 33:18
  Speaker 11: so many narratives that got pulled from that as to,
• 33:21
  Speaker 11: you know, he hates America or whatever it is, and
• 33:26
  Speaker 11: a lot of it just simply wasn't true. And so
• 33:28
  Speaker 11: I wrote this letter through the Army Times kind of
• 33:33
  Speaker 11: explaining just my background, who I was, and I wrote
• 33:37
  Speaker 11: it was an open letter to Colin. I'd gotten reached
• 33:41
  Speaker 11: out to several times by the Army Times to write
• 33:44
  Speaker 11: this thing, and I was like, I don't want to
• 33:45
  Speaker 11: interject myself in this conversation, and they're like, you gotta
• 33:48
  Speaker 11: write something, and you can be anything, and I was like, Okay,
• 33:51
  Speaker 11: if it can be anything, I'll just do it like
• 33:52
  Speaker 11: an open letter. And Colin ended up reading it and
• 33:56
  Speaker 11: reached out and wanted to meet, and so we met
• 33:58
  Speaker 11: the next day in the lobby at the team hotel
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: before their final preseason game, and yeah, he asked me
• 34:05
  Speaker 11: if he thought or if I thought there was a
• 34:07
  Speaker 11: way he could protest it wouldn't offend people in the military,
• 34:09
  Speaker 11: and I said, no, no matter what you do, some
• 34:11
  Speaker 11: people are gonna be offended. That's just you know, it's
• 34:13
  Speaker 11: a protest and I said, but if you're asking my opinion,
• 34:17
  Speaker 11: I think sitting on the bench by yourself maybe isn't
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: the most inspiring way. I think you should be alongside
• 34:22
  Speaker 11: your teammates if possible. And he agreed, and he wanted to,
• 34:25
  Speaker 11: but he said, I've committed to not standing, So you know,
• 34:28
  Speaker 11: we sort of came to this middle ground of taking
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: a knee, you know, And he took a knee that
• 34:34
  Speaker 11: night alongside the team when the anthem played, and I
• 34:37
  Speaker 11: stood next to him with my hand in my heart,
• 34:38
  Speaker 11: and the crowd booed. Not all the crowd, but people
• 34:41
  Speaker 11: in the crowd booed. I remember that, and I just
• 34:43
  Speaker 11: remember feeling like, how is that not more disrespectful, you know,
• 34:47
  Speaker 11: to the to the flag, to the anthem, and to
• 34:49
  Speaker 11: you know, what this nation is supposed to represent. So anyway,
• 34:53
  Speaker 11: that's really the story with that. You know, a lot
• 34:55
  Speaker 11: of it got lost, I think over the years and
• 34:58
  Speaker 11: over that over the weeks. It was during an election
• 35:01
  Speaker 11: cycle and all kinds of things going on. But it'll
• 35:03
  Speaker 11: be ten years next next year.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Since then, yeah, I just before we let you go,
• 35:10
  Speaker 6: I wanted to let you know and to say hi
• 35:12
  Speaker 6: to Dan Quinn and the commanders. They up the road
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: and d C have this show on right now in
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: that office and they do.
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: I just got a picture. My best friend is his
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: chiefs staff, So yeah, Sara tick to Hogan, so I yeah, so.
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: I just got a picture of Deeku's might cause my
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: cleats and there for m VP this year.
• 35:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, coach Quinn wore, he wore the cleats.
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: They they took me.
• 35:39
  Speaker 11: I flew me out to the game and I got
• 35:41
  Speaker 11: to go, uh be on the field with the team
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: and they're battling, of course, you know, they've got there
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: dealing with injuries and you know, but amazing that what
• 35:49
  Speaker 11: that the turnaround out there and what he's able to
• 35:52
  Speaker 11: continue to do like everywhere he goes. De's just specially
• 35:56
  Speaker 11: he's very different too. Like then there's not a lot
• 35:58
  Speaker 11: of coaches that have the humility that guy. Guys great
• 36:01
  Speaker 11: respect for the veterans community in the military, as many
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: coaches do. But he's just a dude. You know, He's
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: a guys guy, uh and and a and a player's coach,
• 36:09
  Speaker 11: and you know, people want to fight for that, for
• 36:11
  Speaker 11: for leaders like that, you know, just like just like
• 36:14
  Speaker 11: we do in the military. So I'm proud of them,
• 36:17
  Speaker 11: proud of him, and proud that he uh represents MVP so.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Well Nate Boyer.
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: There have been badasses that have played for the Seahawks,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Kenny Easley, cam Chancellor, and then there's Nate Boyer, ex
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Army Green Beret broadstar, slow, small, long snap.
• 36:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah all though never count him out of anything.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: It is always great to see you again.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Thank you very much, Nate boy joining us at one
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy game from Baltimore. We'll
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: be back next live on ninety three point three kJ
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  Speaker 4: r f M.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast presented by
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: USAA and Baltimore at the Baltimore Convention Center. Here's Jessamin
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: McIntyre and Greg Bell on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: three kjr FM.
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Welcome back, Craig Bell, Jesson and McIntyre here live from
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: Radio Row before the one hundred and twenty.
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: Six Army Navy game.
• 37:18
  Speaker 6: Here, and we have to take a moment to acknowledge
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: the historic flooding that we're seeing in our state. Actually,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: the President just declared a state of emergency for the
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: entire state of Washington due to all of this reign,
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: and we know how many people out there are being.
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: Affected, dislodged.
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: A lot going on here, So we wanted to let
• 37:37
  Speaker 6: you out there that you can know that you can help. Also,
• 37:40
  Speaker 6: you can provide essentials for people displaced by the floods
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: by donating to the Red Cross.
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: And I know that people. I spoke to a member of.
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: The Red Cross Pacific Northwest Region for this weekend's Seattle
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: Voice that'll air on Sunday, But she did say that
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: even though people would like to kind of do with
• 37:59
  Speaker 6: a good will thing where you know, donating coats and
• 38:02
  Speaker 6: things like that, the thing is you don't know what
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: size these people are and you don't know what their
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: direct needs are. So they do and so donating to
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: the Red Cross is literally the best way you can help.
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: And right now you can do that by texting right
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: across all one word to nine zero nine nine. I
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: wanted to let everybody out there know that we're going
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: to do everything we can to help the Red Cross
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: during this crisis.
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all our best to people, and especially South king
• 38:29
  Speaker 4: County and up in the foothills and then the Cascades
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: and man flying over. Yes, when we took off yesterday
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: from SeaTac to get here to Baldoon with Jessamine and
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: look down in the valley Freeway one six seven between.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I mean the whole corridor there looked like it was
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: underwater all the way down to almost pew all up.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I couldn't tell what was what because of how much
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: water was on there.
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: Hopefully, where you are, you are safe, first of all,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: and hopefully free of some of that. But I know
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: there are many affected and listening, and the hearts go
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: out to you, and we hope you have some recovery
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: ahead of you and better times ahead. And Nate Boyer,
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: we just spoke to Green Gray, the former Seahawks long
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: snapper for a training camp and Texas Longhorn, self made
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: football player. He's at Nate Boyer n at E B
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  Speaker 4: O y E R three seven.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: If you want to follow him on Twitter x. He's
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: now working for Veterans Affairs, Veterans Betterment and a.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Lot of awareness for veterans.
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: He's has a Netflix movie MVP coming out soon on
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: Netflix that he's produced. He lives in Los Angeles and
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: in Austin, Texas, splitting time between where he went to
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: college and where he makes films. Now lots more here.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, we spent most of the day pre taping interviews.
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: We still have a couple of interviews coming up later
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: as well. We're still waiting and perhaps on John Harbaugh
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: the Ravens.
• 39:44
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a move of target.
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: In my day job, I know how that can be
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: a moving target quite a bit. But we hope that
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh the Ravens. He's preparing for his team's game
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: this weekend.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: The Baltimore Ravens train about fifteen minutes from here out
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: in Owen's.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: Mills, Maryland. We are in downtown Baltimore. You can see
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Oriel Park at Camden Yards in the sun to our left.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: In the big warehouses.
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: The familiar red brick warehouses be on right field of
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Oriol Park and Candon Yards, and then the football stadium
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: M ANDT Bank is right next to that. The Seahawks
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: won't play here this year, of course. The Seahawks this
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: weekend are playing at home against the Indianapolis Colts and
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: what has become perhaps the most intriguing regular season game
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: in the NFL in many years of Philip Rivers, whether
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: he will now Saint Stikeen today the Indianapolis Colts coach
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: being a little cat and mouse with the Seahawks and
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: stratesically not declaring that the forty four year old grandpa
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: who came out of retirement three days ago after five
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: years of not playing, kind of hedging on whether he'll
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: play or not trying to play up that Riley leonards
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: knee injury might not prevent Riley Leonard, the rookie from
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: Notre Dame, playing on Sunday at Lumenfield. I will tell
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: you that the Seahawks, Mike McDonald, they have game plan
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: for Philip Rivers to play. And I keep hearing in
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: my voice what Philip Rivers's former teammate Chena and Wolos
• 40:58
  Speaker 4: who told me on wednesdy Day in Renton before practice
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: at the Seahawks. He said, Greg, there's no way that
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Philip Rivers is going to come out of retirement and
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: leave his ten kids and his grandkid in Alabama at
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: age forty four to get on a plane and fly
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: five hours from Indianapolis to Seattle to not play.
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: Thank you, thank you.
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: No, no, he's not going for the free food in
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: the snacks.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: No, no, he doesn't need a plane ride to Seattle
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: and back just because that's where the Seahawks will be
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: on Sunday, expecting philip Rivers to play the Seahawks.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: Trying to get a little eleven and three.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: And of course what's after that Thursday night, the Los
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Angeles Rams against the Seahawks at Womenfield. Much more to
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: come here from Baltimore. We're at the one hundred and
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth Army Navy Game. Jessmon McIntyre, Greg Bell with
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: you on ninety three point three KJRFM, coming to you.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Min from the Baltimore Convention Center and the Army Navy
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Game Media Row presented by USA in Baltimore. This is
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: our special Army Navy broadcast on your Home for College
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Football Now with jess Man McIntyre.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Here's Greg Bell, Welcome back.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: We're at the Army Navy Game, one hundred and twenty
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: sixth Army Navy Game, brought to you by USAA.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: We're in Baltimore.
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: We're at the Baltimore Convention Center, which is right next
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: to Oriel Parker Camden Yards, which is right next to
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: M and T Stadium where the game will be played tomorrow,
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: the Army Navy Game. With jess McIntyre and Greg Bell.
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: This game was first played in eighteen ninety. Eighteen ninety,
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: that's how long they've been playing this game. Navy beat
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Army twenty four. Other than the first game ever played,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: it's been played every year since nineteen thirty, including during
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: World War Two. The series record is, I hate to
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: say this, Navy sixty three, Army fifty five with seven ties.
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: That's because Navy beat Army fourteen years in a row,
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: in a streak that ended a few years ago, which
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: is unheard of. When I was a cadet from eighty
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: nine to ninety three, it was back and forth, back
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: and forth. I was two and two against the Naval
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: Academy and the series was always one or two games
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: within five hundred split, evenly teams winning. I mean, it
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: was never fourteen years umber that was There were four
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: cycles of classes at West Point that didn't be hard
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: beat beat Bay. Right.
• 43:16
  Speaker 11: That's rough, that is up, that's wrong.
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: I mean it it reminds me of the Apple Cup,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: you know.
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: But yeah, I hate to bring that up for I
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: had to bring it up, Jess. That wasn't pushing on,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: and I wasn't gonna bring it up.
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I wasn't gonna bring it up.
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: Last year Navy beat Army in Washington, DC, right outside
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: Washington CEA and landover Maryland thirty one thirteen, and that
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: was an upset.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Army was favored to win that game.
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: This is gonna be the seventh time in one hundred
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: and twenty six years of this game that what they
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: call America's Game has been played in Baltimore. Baltimore is
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: only thirty minutes up the road from Annapolis and the
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: Naval Academy right on Chesapeake Bay.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: This game is.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: Most people frequently played in Philadelphia, followed by New York
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: and then Baltimore. It's gonna be in New York next year,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and then it's gonna go back to Philadelphia. I have
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: talked many times to people when I come back here
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: Jusaman about it coming to the West Coast. It's only
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: been on the West Coast one time. That was in
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: the Rose Bowl.
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: I think it was.
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: Nineteen eighty two or eighty three, maybe eighty one, the
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: early eighties. I remember watching him as a kid. They
• 44:13
  Speaker 4: shipped the entire core of cadets, the entire Brigady Midshipman
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: to Pasadena, California. You talk about a vacation in December.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: For those kids.
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right before finals. They took everybody out there. Back then,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: the Army Navy game was played the first Saturday of December,
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: and it was with conference championship game before many conference
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: championship games. But a few years ago they moved it
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: to this second week of December to be a standalone game,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: and they moved it away from the conference championship weekend
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: so that this would be truly America's game and showcased
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: on national television in the middle of a Saturday with
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: no other major college football games going on. Now Tomorrow,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: quist we know, we have the Washington Huskies and Boise
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: State in the LA Bowl, the last LA Bowl down
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: it so far stydt even in Englewood.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: That's tomorrow night.
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: But this is the major college football game of the
• 44:59
  Speaker 4: day tomorrow, and they purposely set it aside as such.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: The history of this game, I mean, they have the
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: three Mules, which is the Army's mascots, five Mules, and
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: there's the goat, Billy the Goat, who's a live.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: Goat in the Naval Academy.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: My junior year classmates of mine broke into the stall
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: of Billy the Goat in Annapolis.
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: Oh no, stole the goat.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: Brought him in a van or maybe it was either
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: car could have been a hatchback to and for all
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: I know, and drove it from Annapolis in the middle
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: of the night back to West Point. This was nineteen
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: ninety ninety one. Drove it back to West Point. I've
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: told my kids this story many times. They paraded this
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: goat into the mess hall for lunch that day. This
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: was like three days before the Army Navy game that year.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: The poor goat, I mean this is it was inhumane,
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: how bad it was. It was on a leash like
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: a dog, and they dragged him through the mess hall.
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget it. There's four four hundred cadets eating
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: at one time. We eat it mess hall in Washington
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: Hall at West Point, we all eat at the same time.
• 46:03
  Speaker 4: You eat breakfast together, you eat lunch together. They've lacked
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: some of the dinner rules. But four hundred cadets eat
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: at the same time in wings of the mess hall.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: And they paraded this goat up and down the aisles
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: of it and it was scared to death.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: This reminds me of animal house or something.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: It was like a frat as as much as a
• 46:21
  Speaker 4: frat at West Point could be. The kid hats were
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: lacking like frat boys. And I regret to say at
• 46:27
  Speaker 4: the time, I didn't regret them see it, do it,
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: But we were pouring things on the poor cadet milk
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: and stuff.
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: Things happened. Things happen.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Well, suffice to say, Man, did those cats get in trouble?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Those kidets got expelled from West Point.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Oh wow. There was a congressional inquiry to the whole thing.
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: The two service academies agreed that that will never happen again,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: and that is illegal, and that there is a truce,
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: and that is you will never steal the others team's
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: goat or.
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: Mules ever again. Wow.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Fast That was in the early nineties and I was
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: there when it happened. It was my junior year. Fast
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: forward to this week, Army cadets West Point Cadets dutifully
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: went down to Annapolis and broke in again. They broke
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: into the Navy varsity swimming pool and they hung signs
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: such as Navy are slimy. That's a play on words
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: that we call the Naval Academy squids about these. So
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: they said the Navy is slimy, and they stole a
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: goat again, which is illegal and you cannot do. And
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: so they steal a goat, right, they bring the goat
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: back to West Point.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: Eric knows. My son knows this, so he's sitting right
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: next to me here in Baltimore.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: They bring the goat back into West Point and reenact
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: twenty four years later what they did to that poor
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: goat in nineteen ninety four.
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: Did they know what happened?
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: Oh, it gets better.
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: So they parade the goat through the messhall again, just
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: like we did when I was there, and of course
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: through West Point. I should have mentioned it to Lieutenant
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Gilly and when we had him, but he might have
• 48:06
  Speaker 4: gotten off the rails a little bit. The West Point
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: leadership went crazy because here we are violating a truce
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: that has existed for now thirty four years. Well, it
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: turns out that the Naval Academy, apparently, if you believe
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: in Naval Academy at its face, the Naval Academy had
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: a duplicate goat and that was not Billy the goat.
• 48:27
  Speaker 5: Okay, gosh, So they were prepped.
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: They prepped this for happening. They were tipped off coat
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: the decoy goat. They had a decoy Billy the goat.
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: They said that that goat, the West Point kid had stole.
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: It had horns, and Billy the goat doesn't have horns,
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: or not that long of horns.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: They said that his beard wasn't as long as the
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: true Billy the Goat's bear.
• 48:46
  Speaker 4: The naval midshipman said that they gave a decoy goat
• 48:50
  Speaker 4: to West Point to steal.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: That's all happened this week. Wow, that's part of that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: I know there's some college graduates out there that went
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: to WSU and you deb want the's this guy talking.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: This is what you do with West Point and Indianapolis
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: when you had not allowed to go to the bars,
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: and you're not allowed to stay out till what you
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: do anyway, the traditions are such that they live on forever.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And I saw the best man in my wedding who
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: just drove down from Buffalo, New York. He and his
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: family just walked into the Baltimore Convention Center before we
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: came on the air, and I got to see him again.
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: Paul Webb an attorney now in Western New York. And
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: my son will tell you, my family tell you It's
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: like I just saw him yesterday. I see him at
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: least once a year at this game. This is a
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: reunion for me. I'll see tonight many classmates of mine
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: and people I served with. Tennant General Gillian and I
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: have a professional relation now now a personal relationship to
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Superintendent of West Point. I wish I could describe to
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: you listeners and those who've never been in the Army
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: of Yavy game about the intensity of this game that
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: you feel when you're in the stadium, because it is
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: the last game these players will ever play, seniors will
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: ever play. There is my exception, waivers you can get
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: from the Department of Defense if you're drafted into a
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: professional sports league, which has happened rarely. Keenan Reynolds is
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: an example from the Naval Academy of quarterback who played
• 50:07
  Speaker 4: for the New England Patriots, and he also played for
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: the Ravens, and he played for the Seahawks for a
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: brief time, of course, but by and large, it is rare,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: to say the least. John Radigan was a linebacker from
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: West Point. It played for the Seahawks a fe years ago,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: now playing for the Carolina Panthers. But those are few
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: and far between the players. Tomorrow this will be the
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: last game of their lives, and.
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: They play like it.
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: The intensity of it throw the records out of the
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: old cliche. The intensity of it is such that it's indescribable.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: They're flyovers. Then invocation by the chaplain before the game,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: who always strikes a perfect cone and perspective of who
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: these young men and women are. And let's face it,
• 50:48
  Speaker 4: this isn't exactly a self lessed society we live in.
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: It's where's the instant gratification? Where's mine? When when am
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: I getting mine? And in college athletics, when am I
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: getting paid? They're not getting paid right, nobody's getting paid
• 51:01
  Speaker 4: in this game tomorrow.
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: No, and I own money in this game tomorrow.
• 51:04
  Speaker 5: No, zero dollars, zero dollars.
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: I could justman, as you know, I could go on
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: and on and on. I won't have to.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: But if you haven't been to the Army Navy game,
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: please do, please do any Eggar has never been to
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: the Army Navy game. This This is the first time
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: she's been to the Army Navy game.
• 51:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you so much for sitting down with us today.
• 51:27
  Speaker 12: Thank you guys.
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: Glad to be on.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: Is this the first time you've been to an Army
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: Navy game?
• 51:30
  Speaker 12: It is first Army Navy.
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: You're imprecious so excited.
• 51:34
  Speaker 12: I'm so excited, can he Yeah?
• 51:36
  Speaker 5: I was just going to say, can I tell you
• 51:38
  Speaker 5: about my first one? Absolutely? But I just was going
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: to say.
• 51:41
  Speaker 13: People when I tell them I'm coming to Army Navy,
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: They're like, oh, that's bucket list, Like this is.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: The game you want to be at?
• 51:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, my first one was in Philadelphia. This
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: is my fourth time. Yeah, at fourth year in a row,
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: and that was it. Greg told me west Point Grad
• 51:56
  Speaker 6: it's the biggest thing. But bucket list is exactly the
• 51:58
  Speaker 6: word I used. So I'm so excited for history and
• 52:01
  Speaker 6: the tradition behind it.
• 52:02
  Speaker 5: I think is going to be so cool.
• 52:04
  Speaker 13: Let alone going like if you went to Army or
• 52:05
  Speaker 13: Navy the pride, you would feel what has got to
• 52:07
  Speaker 13: be just the best thing ever.
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Thank you Anny, You are absolutely correct that so excited,
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: so excited. How did you get into this?
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: And and I guess COVID help A lot of people
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: were in front of their screens, right, yeah, but this
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: is balloon to something big for you.
• 52:23
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it was wild and I think it was because
• 52:25
  Speaker 13: it all started during COVID that we needed that kind
• 52:27
  Speaker 13: of comedic relief, I hope is why it was kind
• 52:30
  Speaker 13: of felt like the right time to do these videos.
• 52:32
  Speaker 13: So I had I was working in local news during
• 52:34
  Speaker 13: COVID and that obviously all shut down and we weren't
• 52:37
  Speaker 13: covering sports because there were no high school sports to cover.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: So I'd moved back with.
• 52:41
  Speaker 13: My family because I had no money and and you
• 52:43
  Speaker 13: guys know, like the grind and local news, like you
• 52:45
  Speaker 13: were making nothing and it was such hard work. And
• 52:47
  Speaker 13: I loved the job, but I was working my way up.
• 52:49
  Speaker 13: I wanted to get to like ESPN, you know, it
• 52:51
  Speaker 13: was always the goal. So I think I always had
• 52:53
  Speaker 13: that kind of envision to get to ESPN, it said
• 52:57
  Speaker 13: some point, and TikTok was the way that I did it.
• 52:59
  Speaker 13: And I didn't ever think that it could.
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: Come from that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 13: But I was in my child's bedroom and I was
• 53:05
  Speaker 13: kind of on TikTok and I'd seen some people like
• 53:07
  Speaker 13: all the content was COVID related, and there were new
• 53:10
  Speaker 13: creators coming on because that was like the time where
• 53:12
  Speaker 13: they realized, oh maybe now let's you know, I'll start
• 53:14
  Speaker 13: creating because everybody's doing nothing and I had this idea
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: to do this Big Ten video as if they were
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: getting the Big Ten up and running again during COVID,
• 53:22
  Speaker 13: and I did a roast format, you know, because that's
• 53:24
  Speaker 13: and I didn't even script it. I just knew the
• 53:25
  Speaker 13: Big ten stereotypes from growing up in that territory. So
• 53:28
  Speaker 13: I did this video and overnight it had three million views,
• 53:31
  Speaker 13: and I realized people maybe want this right now, and
• 53:34
  Speaker 13: then I did the other conferences and that led to
• 53:35
  Speaker 13: these weekly NFL meeting.
• 53:37
  Speaker 5: Videos that I do.
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: And she plays on the stereotype so Northwestern, a nerd
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: with glasses on and the party girl from Wisconsin. Yeah,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: and that's how if you haven't seen it, And she
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: has different uniforms and she has different so the school
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: covers and now she's morphed it into the NFL.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Do you just sit in a woman cave and watch
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: every game all week or how does you get the content?
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: I do?
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: And my friends will say, you know, like we'll go
• 54:02
  Speaker 13: to bars to watch games usually and stuff, but I
• 54:03
  Speaker 13: can't do that because I'm well. During the Sunday slate,
• 54:06
  Speaker 13: I have to watch all the games obviously, so I'll
• 54:08
  Speaker 13: put on the red zone. I'll have another TV with
• 54:09
  Speaker 13: one game, and then my computer with another game, and
• 54:11
  Speaker 13: then I'll take notes as I'm watching and then kind
• 54:13
  Speaker 13: of start writing up a script in jokes. But the
• 54:16
  Speaker 13: majority of the writing is the next day and Monday,
• 54:18
  Speaker 13: I'll sit there in research for like seven eight hours
• 54:20
  Speaker 13: because I could make any joke that I think is
• 54:22
  Speaker 13: funny from my perspective, but I want to hit on,
• 54:24
  Speaker 13: you know, certain inside jokes that a fan that like
• 54:27
  Speaker 13: mentioning a trade they made back twenty years ago, that
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: they bring up all the time. Like, I want to
• 54:31
  Speaker 13: hit those inside fan jokes that they have within their
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: fan base that you wouldn't know unless you do all
• 54:35
  Speaker 13: the research behind the scenes. So it's a lot of
• 54:38
  Speaker 13: it's a lot of planning, a lot of research, and
• 54:40
  Speaker 13: for like a two minute video, it's impressible.
• 54:44
  Speaker 12: Sometimes on the tenth hour of editing, I'm like, is.
• 54:47
  Speaker 5: This really two minutes long? But that's it. I mean
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: you mentioned that you you know, worked in local news.
• 54:54
  Speaker 6: I've worked in TV also, you know radio like made
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: this lovely format where we can talk to you for minutes.
• 55:01
  Speaker 6: In local TV, I would spend a forty hour week
• 55:05
  Speaker 6: on a two and a half minute segment that gets
• 55:08
  Speaker 6: seen once, right, and.
• 55:09
  Speaker 5: So I totally understand. It's that's so true.
• 55:11
  Speaker 13: Like those packs that we used to do, it was
• 55:14
  Speaker 13: like a it was a whole week process for yeah,
• 55:17
  Speaker 13: two minutes of airtime.
• 55:19
  Speaker 12: Transitioning well into the job I am now, but I
• 55:21
  Speaker 12: love it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: I couldn't.
• 55:22
  Speaker 13: I couldn't be happier, Like I'm reaching the fan base
• 55:25
  Speaker 13: that I love, Like NFL fans are my people.
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: I grew up.
• 55:28
  Speaker 12: You know, that's how my family is. It's just the
• 55:30
  Speaker 12: it's the best job.
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: So I I think one of the things too, is
• 55:32
  Speaker 6: that there's this stereotype or stigma that comes around quote
• 55:37
  Speaker 6: unquote influencers.
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: But you actually it's a job. But you know, you
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: put a lot in it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 6: And I love that you grew up as you know,
• 55:44
  Speaker 6: a sports media person. Well you grew up a sports fan,
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: but you're also into sports media, and so I think
• 55:51
  Speaker 6: people should know that about you, that you wanted to
• 55:54
  Speaker 6: be at ESPN.
• 55:55
  Speaker 13: This isn't like that's right, get ready with me, but right,
• 55:58
  Speaker 13: I love and I love that, and I you know,
• 56:00
  Speaker 13: and this is no disrespect to other creators. Everybody has
• 56:02
  Speaker 13: their thing, but I love that there's so much depth
• 56:04
  Speaker 13: and hopefully it brings, you know, the content. People trust
• 56:08
  Speaker 13: my content because it's factual and it's funny, and so
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: that's always the base of my whatever content I put out,
• 56:12
  Speaker 13: I want to make sure it's a bringing something that
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: people want to hear and that's factual and kind of
• 56:18
  Speaker 13: it's like bringing news to people, but in a funny,
• 56:21
  Speaker 13: lighter way. So it's it's almost like it's this new
• 56:24
  Speaker 13: age of reporting where you're still getting the same facts through.
• 56:26
  Speaker 13: You're telling people what happened in the game, and you
• 56:28
  Speaker 13: know Jalen Hurts had five turnovers, but you're saying it
• 56:31
  Speaker 13: in a funny way where people are like, oh, I
• 56:33
  Speaker 13: just got information on the game, but she also roasted
• 56:35
  Speaker 13: my favorite player at the same time.
• 56:37
  Speaker 4: This is the voice of Annie Aggar. You probably recognize
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: her and get on Toctic and Snapper.
• 56:44
  Speaker 12: So impressed I can mess up that.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: Impressed old kids, So I thought, it's all good to me.
• 56:51
  Speaker 5: It sounds like you did that.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: She's we're ninety three three KJRF from the Army Navy
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: game in Baltimore.
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: So you make a living from this.
• 57:00
  Speaker 4: Social media has become where your television career is either
• 57:03
  Speaker 4: on hold or forgotten, and you're you pay the bills
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: and make it living bad in this right because of
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: sponsorships or how's that working.
• 57:10
  Speaker 13: Yeah, So I do have a full time job as
• 57:11
  Speaker 13: with Chicago Sports Network, so I host our NFL show there,
• 57:14
  Speaker 13: which is nice because the whole being in local news
• 57:17
  Speaker 13: kind of helped.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: With that job.
• 57:19
  Speaker 12: But it is it's wild how media has changed so much.
• 57:22
  Speaker 12: I'm sure you guys see it.
• 57:23
  Speaker 13: People watch sports differently now where they'll get on Twitter
• 57:25
  Speaker 13: or they'll get on TikTok during the game. So my
• 57:28
  Speaker 13: best video is if I put it out during a
• 57:29
  Speaker 13: game they do they perform really well because everybody's on
• 57:32
  Speaker 13: during that, which is wild to me because you're not
• 57:35
  Speaker 13: watching the game, you're doing on social media.
• 57:37
  Speaker 12: But it's like this community.
• 57:39
  Speaker 13: If you're sitting at home, which is what I do,
• 57:41
  Speaker 13: watching the game by yourself, I want a community of
• 57:43
  Speaker 13: people around me that are complaining about the same call
• 57:46
  Speaker 13: that I just saw, like the same drop catch that
• 57:48
  Speaker 13: I just saw, and it's all on Twitter. So it's
• 57:50
  Speaker 13: just amazing to me how much it's changed. And I
• 57:52
  Speaker 13: think it's it's kind of going in that direction media wise,
• 57:56
  Speaker 13: And we just were talking about it like Radio Row
• 57:58
  Speaker 13: and for Super Bowl is so different.
• 57:59
  Speaker 12: It should be all actual radio. Now it's like this,
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: there's people running around doing snap talk.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: So who monetizes it? Is it YouTube? Is it talk TikTok?
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: Yeah?
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: So the base where do you make your money out
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: of it?
• 58:19
  Speaker 5: The brand or the the.
• 58:22
  Speaker 13: Social media platforms. Platforms themselves don't pay out as much
• 58:25
  Speaker 13: as you think that. I mean, they they pay out
• 58:28
  Speaker 13: a little bit because they want influencers to get out
• 58:29
  Speaker 13: there and put out content. But the majority of our
• 58:33
  Speaker 13: our income and all that comes from brand. So I'll
• 58:35
  Speaker 13: aligned with brands that I am either use and I'll
• 58:37
  Speaker 13: never align with the brand I don't actually you know,
• 58:40
  Speaker 13: represent or that that matches with my brand.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: So we did.
• 58:42
  Speaker 12: I just bought a Chevy truck. You guys, it's my baby.
• 58:45
  Speaker 12: It's the best thing I've ever purchased in my life,
• 58:48
  Speaker 12: so Chevy.
• 58:49
  Speaker 13: I posted about it just organically, and then Chevy reached
• 58:51
  Speaker 13: out and said, hey, like, we'd love to partner with you.
• 58:53
  Speaker 5: So stuff like that.
• 58:54
  Speaker 12: It's been huge.
• 58:55
  Speaker 13: And I have my agent is amazing, and she and
• 58:58
  Speaker 13: I connected right when I first started doing the videos
• 59:00
  Speaker 13: and she's just been a godsend. So she'll get a
• 59:03
  Speaker 13: lot of these brand deals and but monetizing videos on
• 59:06
  Speaker 13: social media is not like the majority of people think
• 59:09
  Speaker 13: that that's where influencers money comes from, and it's not.
• 59:12
  Speaker 12: Usually it's usually brands.
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: So interesting, you're talking to a Seattle audience. What's your
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: riff on Sam Donald? What have you roasted him?
• 59:21
  Speaker 13: Was all in on him, Sam Donald for m v P.
• 59:24
  Speaker 13: I was all in until he decided to see ghosts
• 59:26
  Speaker 13: again that one game. And oh, I'm sorry, don't they
• 59:29
  Speaker 13: play against coming ups?
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: Coming up?
• 59:33
  Speaker 5: It's turnover game.
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: You guys know.
• 59:36
  Speaker 12: I love Sam Dardal.
• 59:37
  Speaker 13: Good for him, like he's he's fighting against all odds
• 59:40
  Speaker 13: because the Jets just did him dirty. And yeah, but
• 59:43
  Speaker 13: I think JASN having like that. That team is scary.
• 59:46
  Speaker 13: Good on off, I mean their defense. You guys are
• 59:48
  Speaker 13: great too, So I don't. I don't include Seattle a
• 59:51
  Speaker 13: ton in my videos and people kind of get mad
• 59:52
  Speaker 13: about it. But I'm like, guys, if I'm including them,
• 59:55
  Speaker 13: they're doing something wrong.
• 59:56
  Speaker 5: So I don't think you wanted.
• 59:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, right, what So who who triggers the meter? Who
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: do you get the response? I'm guessing cowboys.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: That's a good question.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 13: Cowboys always Yeah, And it's so funny because the sports
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 13: talk shows talk about all the time. They always lead
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 13: off with Chiefs or Cowboys, even if they lose or
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 13: if there's not really a storyline there, And it's because
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 13: those fans are so they like hate watch, so they'll
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 13: they like, there's Bears fans watch me a lot too
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 13: to hate watch because they I'm a Packers fan, right,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 13: so they hate me.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 12: But but it's so funny, how Yeah.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 13: Cowboys fans will always I will always get a reaction
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 13: from Cowboys fans no matter what I say.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 12: It could be positive or negative. It's the funniest thing.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: So and I love it.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 12: Keep commenting like they're they're the people that watch my videos,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 12: so I'll take it.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: Yes, Yeah, that's the thing, is like what apathy is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 6: actually the opposite of love.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: Hate? Yes, I know.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: I'm like, hey, you know we have a text line
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  Speaker 6: that comes into the station and you're listening.
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  Speaker 12: People do it on social media all the time too.
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  Speaker 13: They'll comment be like, oh, this is the dumbest thing,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 13: not necessarily in mind, but you know, I've seen it
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  Speaker 13: on people's content and the people coming back and say, well,
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  Speaker 13: you just gave me another view in a.
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  Speaker 12: Comment, so really like, right, you're doing the work for
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 12: me here, buddy.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, fightings for that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Annie Agar, the organic Annie Agar is starting
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  Speaker 4: from scratch.
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  Speaker 3: Congratulations and thanks for coming to the Army Navy game.
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  Speaker 5: Oh I'm so excited. I'm honored to be here.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be back from Baltimore at the one hundred and
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth Army Navy Game live here on ninety three
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  Speaker 4: point three KJRFM.
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  Speaker 3: You know what that means.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: The music doesn't mean Ted Kopple's coming on Nightline. We're
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 4: at the one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy game
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: here in Baltimore. To back in Washington State, specifically in Pullman.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: Breaking news that the Washington State Cougars have settled on
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: a new football coach.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: Jasmine.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, Bruce Belman is reporting that the next head coach.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: And this doesn't come as much of a surprise because
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 6: it's been all over the place, but Kirby Moore will
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: be the next Washington State head coach. And other breaking
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: news how Whittingham was stepping down at Utah.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 5: After a very very long career there.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: That's another Power five job and a big ten, Big
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: twelve job now coming open late in the process of
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: the coaching carousel. But the Koug's getting Kirby Moore from Missouri,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: Greg Woods, and the spokesman was all over this at
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 4: the Pullman Moscow Airport the other day, tracking him.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: Landing and showing up.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: I wonder how this resonates with Koug's, with those who
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 4: wanted some native kook, some Cougars who will stay, and
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: someone who is are invested in the community, in the
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: program there and by all accounts, and I don't know
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: him personally, but it seems like he's not one of
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 4: those Kirby Moore, is it?
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 3: Not one of those?
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's got a pedigree, you know. He certainly he's
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: from you know, the area.
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  Speaker 3: Of course, he's from the Tri Cities area from and
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: the and the Moore family. And I'm not to say
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: he's foreign to Washington State or the area, but not
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: a koug per se, is what I mean?
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, exactly. But I think that the Kougs are
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 6: I think the only hesitancy with gribbymore is the fact
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 6: that he tracks just like Jimmy Rodgers. And you know,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 6: it's like, are we looking at another stepping stone situation?
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: And I think That's what the intrigue with Rick new
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: Heisel was because you know, it's like he was going
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: to bring his son, Jerry, with him, according to reports.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: But it looked like a good idea.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 6: Rick new Heisl has said so much on our morning
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: show that he would bring his son, and so the
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: idea there was that he would groom him.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: To be the next coach.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 6: And you know, while new Heel, you know, drifted off
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 6: into the sunset from coaching, Jerry would be there to stay.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: And I think that had a little bit more appeal
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: to it, But that was more of a name splash.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 6: Kirby Moore as someone who has been on their raidar So.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: Jessmin McIntyre is a cydebline reporter for Washington State Football,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: so she knows of what she speaks and the news
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 4: if you dis missed it again that Washington State University
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: is going to hire Kirby Moore, the offensive coordinator at
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 4: the University of Missouri and Missouri University, to be the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: head coach at Washington State. Kirby Moore a native of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: the Tri Cities, as it said from Prosser, Washington to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: be exact, actually, and he with Washington State two a
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: Player of the Year Prosser, and then played for Boise
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: State as a wide receiver and then went on to
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: beginning his coaching career at the College of Idaho. He
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: was of course, a graduate assistant for Washington in two thousand,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: UDUBB in twenty fifteen and sixteen. Fresno State is where
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: he made most of his in roads in college coaching.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: From twenty seventeen to twenty two and then twenty three
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: he joined the staff as the offensive coordinator at Missouri
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: and that's a job he had now until Washington State
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 4: University has hired Kirby Moore. Apparent to Bruce Feldman and
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 4: other reports now coming out about Washingtonton coach Bryan Jones,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Brian Jones of CBS Sports is joining in the movie
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Navy Radio. But he's shaking his head and now he's.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I thought Rick and Jerry knew.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: Today.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're not the only one who thought that.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: Brian is on the pregame show with Rick new Heisel
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: tomorrow at the Army Navy game. Brian, you sat down
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: and it seemed like it was the first time you
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: heard this.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, breaking news. Good time to hang out with you folks.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: From one of my favorite cities on the planet. Loved
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: me some Seattle and had some buddies that played at
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: you dub so I'm fond of that university. Uh as well. Now,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: Kirby was the o C at Missouri. Correct, And they
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: had a pretty uh salty running game early in the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: season with a maud Henry and then it kind of
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 2: dipped and then they got back to their running ways
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: late in the season. Uh, that'd be interesting. Yeah, that's okay.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 3: He's from from washing Washington and central Washington.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: It's okay. And he played at Washington State. He played
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: the boys, State played the boys. That's the one, Brian,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: that's the one. Is that Kellen's brother, correct, Kellen Moore's brother. Okay,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: So the concern from a lot of coops is that,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, you're not a true coup. You're not
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: a I mean, you went you were from the native Washington,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: but you didn't go to Washington State, didn't play for
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Washington State. Are you then gonna leave as quickly as
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: Jimmy Rodgers did by staying only a you're having a good,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: great season, or nowadays, if you have a six and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: six season, you can be eligible.
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  Speaker 3: For a big power five job.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the conundrum, you know, are you here for
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: the long haul or is this a stepping stone? And
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: every place wants to be a destination, but you also
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: have to deal with reality. Uh, And I guess you know,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: he could if he's from that part of the world,
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: he could get up there and love it, especially if
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: they're able to be successful and you say, hey, you
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: know what we're gonna We're gonna hang out here for
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: a minute. Yeah, let's do this thing. I've never been
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: to Pullman and have no aspirations to go. But I'm
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: not okay, I'm from love with Texas, so I shouldn't
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: be taking shot to Pullman.
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  Speaker 4: But that's Brian. That's Brian Jones Sports. Send your hate
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: mail to Brian Jones, CBS Sports, not the kJ R.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 4: Brian Joe.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: There's a pretty good one beautiful up there. I'll go
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: in this warmer.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: I've been sideline reporting for them for fourteen years. I'm
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 5: very loyal.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I started reporting Beautiful be like you.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: One day, I was just gonna say, it's like, oh
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: my goodness, does Kirby Moore run at halftime? Because I
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 6: had at least for eight years and he sprinted to
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 6: and I had to run and interview him at the
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: same exact time.
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  Speaker 5: Halftime.
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  Speaker 2: Man, he was at Texas Tech, my hometown. Yeah, lovebook
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: and that dude's a He was a hoop. He was
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: so much one of a kind. Yeah, you never knew
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: what you're gonna get, but it would always be golden.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Brian Jones a former linebacker. He was that. You
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 3: said that.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: Then he went to the University of Texas and he
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 4: played in the NFL. First of the Las Angeles Raiders. Yeah,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 4: they were in LA at the time, at the Coliseum.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: Worst team for me to go to because I knew
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: where the bodies were buried.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: Then I had a little money in my pigget and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: that was a team that there was no discipline, no regiment,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: just show up and do your job. And they were
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: playoff team and I needed discipline. Ninety one Raiders were
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: coached by Artchell. What do you think Archell is a coach? Great,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: but the wrong team for Meuse Art coach shell this
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: say much? Yeah, a couple of the veterans run. Now, yeah,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: veterans run. It was a veteran who were the veterans team?
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Howie Long, you had Tim Brown, Marcus Allen, Ronnie Laddy
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: come over from the forty nine ers, Willie Gault, May.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: Mister Swerven, Mervin Fernandez still on that team.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: No, he was gone, but yeah, it was just chock
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: full of vets that knew how to be pros and
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: I was still learning how to be pro and I
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: was a knucklehead. Weston Moss was my boy. He went
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: out and played for the Seahawks and leaving the Raiders.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: So but it was good times.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: He's now a call Brian Jones joining us here in
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 4: ninety three point three KJFM from the one hundred and
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth Army Navy game in Baltimore. He's now an
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: analyst for CBS Sports. You'll see him on the pregame
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: show tomorrow, the television pregame show before the Army Navy
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: game in Baltimore. You played major, big time college football.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: What is your view of the Army Navy game? As
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: someone who played college football but at a different level.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: This is on that level. I mean, Army has given
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 2: the big boys fits. Navy has as well. Pegged Navy
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: to win the American Conference and getting to the CFP
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: came up just shy of course, you know, losing the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: North Texas turnovers bit him in that one, Notre Dame,
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: but the wins over us F and Memphis, those were
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: huge wins for this football team. And they're a legitimate
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: passing team. I grew up playing option teams and they
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: would just pass the ball to throw you off their scent. Yeah, nah,
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: this is legit. That's an integral part of our operation.
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 2: And what Horvat has been able to do running and
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: throwing and hide and rich and I think Navy has
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: more weapons with Tesca and Chapman, and they played some
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: pretty good defense as well. Army struggled somewhat after a
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: fabulous year a season ago, turnovers and and missteps and
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: special teams and mishaps and but hellam's they gave him
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: the reins to this offense eight games in and he
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: is taking off running literally, I mean, he averages more
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: rushes per game than any one FBS level. I think
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: it's twenty four to twenty five. Uh so he's over
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 2: a thousand yards. Now, Well, they have as much. Can
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: they match that firepower? Can they get the stops? And
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: this game has usually come down to who can win
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: the turnover battle and handle the ebbs and flows of
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: the contests and special teams. So it's the inverse of
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: a season ago where Army comes in, Oh, it's gonna
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: be a cakewalk for them, and maybe puts thirty one
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: points on the board, which is unheard of in this match.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then and.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: Now this year it's Navy with all the fans fare
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: and so you never know what you're gonna get. But
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: I know this, you're guaranteed to get a joke to patriotism.
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: You're guaranteed to get, uh, some entertaining football by guys
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: that really love this game, because there's no way you'd
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: go through what they have to go through outside of football. Instead,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: throw on those pads and perform in the mounta in
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: which they do, and they do it at any an
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: elite level, and there's it's so much precision that goes
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 2: into it, and it's football is purece form. That's what
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 2: I love about it.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: And I own money on the field tomorrow.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no extra motivation from that, yeah.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: Jones, Yeah, sorry, sorry he was he was.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: Texting them people in Pullman.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: I didn't mean it.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: You should see what my phone looks like right now.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: Die.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 5: Uh Yeah, I will I will.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 6: Actually, this is the sports information director who doesn't sound
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: like we'll get an official announcement from the school until
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: today or later today, beyond the time that we're on
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: the air, But show them.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: I'm upset with him.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 14: Now.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I got to work with Rick new heis another year.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that'sb is not opening if.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: You're just joining us. That's in the wake of the
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: breaking news that Kirby Moore the Washington the new Washington
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: State coach from the Missouri offensive coordinator job.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: You were mentioning those who didn't make the college football playoff,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: and so you got me at my wheels, turney, because
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: I grew up in college football family. I have covered
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 6: college football my entire career sidelines fourteen years, and I
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: look at this game. This is my fourth straight Army
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: Navy game, and now it's just my favorite thing.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: To do every time.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: This year.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: That being said, I don't ever recall seeing Notre Dames
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: and Kansas State of the like pulling out of just
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 6: opting out like, nah, we're just not going to go.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 5: What was your reaction when you started, by the way.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: Yes, Manhattan, Yeah, coaching changes there, so I sort of understand.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: But we've seen that previously, where you just have an
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: interim guy on the staff, take the reins, get us
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: through the bowl game, because you're doing a disservice to
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: those other kids on that roster that want to enjoy
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: a bowl game, and it might not be the sexiest
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: of bowl games, but they want to enjoy that and
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: take part. And the locales where these bowl games take place,
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: they're now taking ahead right because they're banking on literally
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: that influx of cash from the tours that come in
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: and follow their respective teams. So I don't like it
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: at all, just like I didn't enjoy our head coach
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: at Texas going around campaigning and threatening to duck tougher
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: competition in the future. Now, man, we're the University of Texas.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: We don't do that. We don't run away from competition. Army, Navy,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: those guys are gonna put it all on the line
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: and then they're gonna run towards the fire. They're gonna
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: run towards the ammunition, not away from it. So I
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: don't like that aspect of it. Notre Dame Crying Wolf
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: and we won't. Really that is just whack. You would
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: have gone to a top tier bowl and it would
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: have been a great match up against another blue blood
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: most likely, and it would have been compelling I think.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: So I don't like it. I don't endorse it, and
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't suggest they do that in the future. Now,
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: as far as the CFP, there are a lot of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: things I don't like about their whimsical ways, if you will,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: because each year they trample upon precedents they've set previously.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: I mean the whole Notre Dame Miami debacle, having Notre
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: Dame ahead of them when the headhead is the number
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: one data point.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, let's just get rid of the incremental rankings and
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: the shows. Anyway, what is broken with college football? Because
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: it's many? Whyw would you fix it?
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 3: Brian?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: I would fix it. You got it. It's the NFL already, right,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 2: So they need to op saying we don't want to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: be the NFL. You're the NFL. You need a CBA collector.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: These guys need to be under and ladies because they
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: transfer to other sports a binding contract. That's the biggest change.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Now we can possibly curtail some of this movement. I transfer.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: I have nothing against transfer, but three and four and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: five times my grandma would say, boy, go sit your
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: butt still sitting down somewhere and be still excuse me,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: Grandma for ruining your quote. Make a yeah, exactly, quit
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: running from competition. So uh, those are the things that
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 2: I would implement to help change it. But when you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: run it in the manner that some who were strong
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: arming the CP committee because Alabama shouldn't be.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: In there, Tenny three, you shouldn't, That's right. You can't
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: have it both ways.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: Well, conference championship can benefit you, but it can't penalize
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's a bunch of bulldoochie who came up
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: with that. Is this just for participation a participation trophy?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: We're not gonna hold that against you. Well, that's another
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: dad point. They look terrible in that game. Minus three
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: yards rushing. Is that screen championship caliber? No, but they
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: got in because they're commissioned upset about what happened last year.
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  Speaker 2: Strong arm and these guys. Then you got the other
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: because the SEC is a cartel bron and you got
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: and the main guy carrying the water is the biggest
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: pocket of unplugged hot air out there. Tall skinny ball
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: hitded dude very much.
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  Speaker 5: Appreciate yourself.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I wanted to say something else the Family Show.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, there, It's amazing that you have people in
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: the room with so many degrees and they can't just
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: make common sense decisions. But that's what happens when there's
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: a ton of money involved, and we see it in
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: other areas of our society. Uh So, until that changes,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: which I don't foresee changing, we're gonna be right here
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: next year saying well, this team was done wrong or
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: that one was done wrong. And I was ready and
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: I didn't get all lauded up this year because I
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: expected saying stuff that's been happening. Going back to my
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: earlier statement, every year they find a way to just
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: trample upon things they have said that matters.
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  Speaker 4: Brian Jones, CBS Sports. He'll be on the pre postgame
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  Speaker 2: It will be around today. It was for a rehearsal.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, it will be a little chilly at
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Baltimore to Little again. The breaking news Kirby Moore hired
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: from Missouri's offensive coordinator job to the new head coach
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  Speaker 2: at Washington State University. Brian Jones, CBS Sports, thank you
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: for joinings, Thank you for covering their appreciate it.
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  Speaker 4: If you missed at the breaking news of the last hour,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 4: last half hours, so Washington State University's new head football
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: coach and putting to Bruce Feldman to the athletic is
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Kirby Moore Prosser Washington. Of course, Kellen Moore's brother. He
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: played at Boise State. Then he went into coaching and
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: made most of his marks at Fresno State before becoming
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: the offensive coordinator at Missouri, where he spent the last
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: several years. And now he's coming to Pullman to be
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: the head coach of the Coogs. Coog sideline football reporter
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  Speaker 4: Jessmin McIntyre's sitting right next to me.
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  Speaker 6: I am, and I have had my pulse on Pullman
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: for the last twenty minutes or so, I guess half hour. Yeah,
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 6: I've talked on various people, both national reporters and those
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 6: who have boots on the ground. There's also a report
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 6: out there that there is a mandatory team meeting expected
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  Speaker 6: this afternoon. You know, it's only about two o'clock here
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  Speaker 6: at Pacific times, so those guys, you know, they probably
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: have you know, bull practice and then they'll probably meet afterwards.
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  Speaker 5: But it's it's an odd time right now.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 6: As we know, defensive coordinator Bobb It is the interim
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 6: coach who will be coaching them in that game.
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  Speaker 5: But Kirby Moore was in Pullman.
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  Speaker 6: I wonder what kind of situation this is or they
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 6: gotta try to help each other out there.
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  Speaker 3: I assume he would coach through Missouri's bowl game before.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah, you would, But this is just weird times with
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 6: them being able to leave, and are there any weirder
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 6: times than in Pullman, Washington right now?
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: From college football for the last three years.
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  Speaker 5: Really yeah, no, there's there's something in the water there,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 5: and I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean you have to look.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Something in the water is greed from outside the city
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: of Pullman. Now, let's face it, if USC and UCLA
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: did not go to the Big Ten to start all
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: of this, Washington and Oregon would have never gone to
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten, and Washington State it would still be
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 4: in a Big ten or Pac twelve. Maybe it would
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: be without USC and UCLA, which didn't become viable without
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: the Los Angeles market. But that is where this all
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: this began leading Oregon State in Washington State absolutely abandoned.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: It's what I keep asking our national college football guests
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: of how broken college football is. They need to blow
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 4: the whole damn thing up because the money has become
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: so pervasive that it's perverse and it becomes a stuff
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 4: like Washington State and Oregon State are going through. And
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 4: it's ridiculous to those student athletes who sign to play
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: at Washington State under one coach and get another coach
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: five days after signing down at.
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 5: The age of seventeen.
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  Speaker 3: Too.
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  Speaker 6: You have to also take into account these families, you know,
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 6: these are coaches. Basically we're promising their parents. Also, it's
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: not even just the kid, Like who I sit down
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: in mom and Dad's a living room and tell you
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  Speaker 6: that I am going to I convince you to send
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: your baby boy away for the first.
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  Speaker 5: Time because I'm going to take care of him.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 6: Then Stu sues and then also, I mean, what kind
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: of schematics are involved, Like what you know if they
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: run a different kind of offenses, X Y Z player
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  Speaker 6: not going.
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  Speaker 5: To get the same playing time, Like it changes everything.
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  Speaker 4: It is broken, and it's all because of greed money,
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: the haves getting more, the haves not's fallen away, and
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  Speaker 4: Washington State has been on the wrong side of that
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: equation for the last few years. The purest game left
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  Speaker 3: Thank you for tuning in the best show of the year.
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty six Editions. Five o'clock here in Baltimore, Maryland.
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  Speaker 4: Two o'clock back on the West Coast. Hopefully you're high
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 4: and dry and safe from the weather we've had in
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 4: the Pacific Northwest. The breaking news of the last hour
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 4: Washington State University is reported by Bruce Feldman, the Athletic
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 4: First and many others. Since they've settled on a new
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: football coach. Kirby Moore, the offensive coordator from Missouri Prosser,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: Washington native, of course, played a Prossert High school, then
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: went on to play at Boise State. He coached the
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  Speaker 4: College of Idaho was his first job, and since then,
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: of course, he's gone on to really make most of
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: his time at Fresno State in college football fifteen and
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: sixteen and graduate assistant at the Washington Huskies. But Fresno
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  Speaker 4: State is when he first had play calling duties. Twenty
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 4: twenty two and now from twenty twenty three to just now,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: the offensive coordinated at Missouri. Jessin Mcataryre's the sideline reporter
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 4: for Washington State Cougar's football.
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  Speaker 2: She's been talking to people from Pullman from the last
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  Speaker 2: half hour and talking about a team meeting apparently that's
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: going on this afternoon for players.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what the report is. So that, I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it doesn't surprise me, and it makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, I mean it was the only reported coach
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  Speaker 6: that was flown in on a private jet, so that
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  Speaker 6: told me something. And I also know a lot of
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 6: coaches out there, a lot of people who wanted the job,
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 6: who were coming to me and asking me about the job,
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  Speaker 6: which I took as a very encouraging sign because Washington State,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: you know, sometimes gets overlooked as a destination for someone.
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: And I heard from a lot a lot of people,
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: their sources, you know, they're inside, their agents and stuff,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 6: were telling me with they were hearing from the school
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 6: and seemed like a pretty narrow candidate list that they
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 6: had right at the beginning.
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  Speaker 5: Of this, and it's very good.
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  Speaker 6: You do you always have to have a list like
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 6: athletic directors always have a list, they always do. But
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: you know our athletic director got fired less than a
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 6: month ago, correct, So where's her list? And the university
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 6: president of Champlin there well, yes, doctor Campbell is one
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 6: that kind of person. She is very hands on when
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 6: it comes into athletic or when it comes to athletics
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: as well. I was just wondering how prepared they would
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 6: be to do this search with Jimmy Rodgers only being
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 6: there for a single year.
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  Speaker 4: So the way this works, of course is they hire
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: search at firms, and the search firms already have their
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 4: agents lined up that they can talk to and tap
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 4: in immediately. The fact that Kirby Morris from Prosser of
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: course entered into this the Washington native. But if I'm
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 4: a Koop fan, and the first question I have is
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: how long is Kirby Moore going to stay? This is
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 4: his first head coaching job, right, So you're in the
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 4: same situation that you were in many respects to Jimmy
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Rodgers coming from South Dakota State in the first time
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: higher level. Now, Jimmy Rodgers, of course was a head
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 4: coach at South Dakota State before he came to pull
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 4: them last year. But now here you got a first
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: time head coach, Kirby Moore, who was playing college football
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: through the early two thousands, so this is his first break.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: And if he goes even six and six in this
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 4: today's college football climate, you become a candidate for the
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: coaching carousel the next year. What did Kirby Moore tell
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 4: President Cantwell that said I'm staying or did he even
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: say that, or is can't well in the Washington State
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 4: University staff realizing you can't say that or promise that
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 4: these days, there's a large contingent of Cougar fans that
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 4: want that commitment. Why they want a Koug to take
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 4: this job at this present time in the climate that
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 4: we're in, and now everyone leaves it a drop of
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 4: a hat. And if as much as Washington State has
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: been burned in the last five years, going all the
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: way back to Rollovich and the Shenanigans and the COVID
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: testing and not testing and all of that, the upheoval
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 4: that those Koogs have had in that football team in
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: the last five years.
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  Speaker 3: It's unbelievable.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 4: The turmoil and the upheoval that those student athletes, a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: players what's just call them football players because there are
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: student athletes as much anymore. They have gone through Helen
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: back to play football at Washington State and some of
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: them only stay for a year.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: How about South Dakota State's players. They came all to
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: Pullman last year. Half of them are probably going to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Iowa stay with Jimmy Rodgers.
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  Speaker 5: It's unbelievable.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: It's a crazy environment. Kirby Moore is stepping into the
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: job at Washington State and I can already hear koog
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  Speaker 4: fans I know and a son of mine who's a
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 4: recent graduate of asking how long's he even to stay?
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, I mean I think that there's going to
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 6: be a hot list every single year that now, well,
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 6: when we do get around to getting an off, flags
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: are after you know, the president.
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  Speaker 5: Now she's you know, she's got it. I mean they
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  Speaker 5: are working, like you said, they have a search firm
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: and everything.
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  Speaker 6: So it's those people you haven't But also, you know,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 6: everyone involved with the school has to be thinking about
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: that as well. There has to be someone with their
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 6: idea of what they're looking for, because they're not going
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 6: to ask a search firm what would you look for
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 6: at my school?
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: But there has to be someone that will stay at
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 4: Washington State more than one year that wants to and
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 4: that's just someone that they need to hire.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 3: I mean, the more that guy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, like I know that earlier you were saying you
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 6: thought they should have been a Koog and that probably
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 6: had a little bit better of a chance for the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: staying power there.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd really be interested to hear what Kirby Moore
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 4: told the president of the University of Washington State University
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: to convince her that this was the guy to keep
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 4: her from having to do this again next year.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you could say, whatever he wants someone the
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 6: money comes call and I wouldn't surprise me.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 5: And what else is he going to say?
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 4: Well, then that's on President Camptwell in Washington State if
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 4: they hired a coach who ends up leaving again a
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 4: year from now, because that doesn't put them any better
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 4: than they were a year ago with Jimmy Rodgers.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 3: I mean, I mean, that's just facts. They need to
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 3: have hired a coach.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 4: And again, Kirby Moore hasn't even stepped in his office
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 4: yet and pullman, but you have to hope if you're
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 4: a wher Hell if you're a college football fan, you
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 4: have to hope that Washington State has hired a guy
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 4: that will.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 3: Stay for more than a year or two.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 5: You have to, I mean, that's my hope.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 3: So and I'm sure.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 4: President Campbell didn't hire Kirby Moore to think he's leaving
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 4: next year, but they didn't hire Jimmy Rodgers think he's
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 4: leaving next year.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 5: My point is, like, I.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: Don't think that president can't well can control what someone
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: does after making that promise. You know, like I I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 6: know that you want to blame it or you know,
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: put the blame if he leaves on someone.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 4: How about set the buyout of twenty million dollars or
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 4: something that something that might be something that would help. Yeah,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: I mean, don't don't set a buy out at a
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: level so low that a booster to it. Iowa ames,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: Iowa can pay it out. Yeah, that would help, would
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 4: it not?
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: That is a good point.
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 5: That is a good point.
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: Maybe he did sign that, Maybe he did.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 6: Maybe we don't know that that would You're right, that
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: would be real really literally the only way you can
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 6: get away with it.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: And that's what it's coming to is that Washington State
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: needs to say boom.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 4: Let's put a twenty five million dollar price tag on
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 4: you buying out my coach, and let's see how many
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 4: boosters or aame's Iowa was of the world.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 3: I want to pay that, but if it's four million,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: you're subject to this. I degree. Here we go.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 4: Now we can talk about real college athletics and real
• 1:29:19
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:24
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• 1:29:27
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• 1:29:31
  Speaker 4: Point graduate, a little bit younger than I am, far
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: more accomplished, a former company commander in combat and then
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 4: he got out and has done great things for Team Red,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: White and Blue and the four veterans and trying to
• 1:29:45
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  Speaker 3: Mike Saly Sullivan a thirty year Army vet.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 4: Thirty year Army veteran alongside he's also with Team Red,
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for having us.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 4: First of all, talk to us how you got into
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 4: the military lives It was it family? Was it something
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 4: you always had aspired to do, Zach. Mike, But Zach first,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 4: go ahead, Zach.
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  Speaker 15: Yeah, So both family tradition, right, but never four. So
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 15: both my parents were enlisted. My brother enlisted as well,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 15: and so kind of always grew up, you know, watching
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 15: the iconic movies, whether it's Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rambo et cetera.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 15: And that always just playing g I Joe kind of
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 15: always stuck with me and really right, got after a
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 15: sense of mission and purpose.
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 3: So from the Midwest, from the South side of Chicago, yep, Mike, Yeah.
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  Speaker 16: It's similar. And I always say it's a family business.
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 16: But the no career military. But my father was a
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 16: Vietnam veteran. He was an officer ROTC grad served a
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 16: tour there. His father, his biological father, died in World
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 16: War Two. He's a BE twenty four pilot. But then
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 16: he was adopted by another Army vet. And then my
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 16: mom's dad started at Annapolis, left to enlist in the
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 16: Navy to get to the war faster. And Mary's high
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 16: school sweetheart, so Navy guy. So the and then prior
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 16: to that, My great grandfather was a World War One VET.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 16: So it kind of runs in the family and it
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 16: continues now.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 16: I was inspired by that was ROTC did thirty years
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 16: in the Army, and my kids followed in the footsteps
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 16: of the fifth generation. I guess both twenty twenty grads
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 16: of West Point, Sammy and Jackson. So yeah, the mission
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 16: continues with the Sullivan family.
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: Sammy Sullivan daughter we met last year here at the
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: Army Navy game, captain of the Army rugby team or
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: the United States national rugby team, and we met her
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: at the Army Navy game, both here at Radio Row
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: and at the game at Selvin.
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  Speaker 3: As you mentioned, she's quite accomplished in her own right.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I know, I know, you always have to say
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 6: that my father's here as well, and.
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: That's what he would say about me. But when I
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: realized that you were her father, I know.
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: Literally, Streak, it's normal, it's normal. You have family in
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: the Seattle area.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 2: I do, I do.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 9: So.
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 16: I was born and raised in Yakima, Washington. Uh, but
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 16: everyone's migrated to the West side. They live in the
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 16: Samamish Redland, Redmond area. So yeah, they'll be excited that
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 16: I finally made it.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: You made years in the army, Yeah, you made it.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: Dream Bread Olympic. You know my daughter's an Olympian. Now
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: I finally made it. Thank you it is Zach you
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: went to you did You're the modern day force. Come
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: both of you.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 4: You orchestrated a three thousand mile run across America from
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 4: San Diego, if I'm not mistaken, a deck of a
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 4: carrier to the National Mall in Washington, D C.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: This year. Why'd you do that? What we What were
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: you raising awareness for?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 3: Absolutely?
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  Speaker 15: So one I'll give credit to timr WB are the
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 15: ones right that that orchestrated it. I just, depending on
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 15: how you look at it, had the privilege of running it.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 15: But yeah, ultimately mission and value alignment, right, And so
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 15: I think a lot of people, whether they're in the
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 15: service or even when they're transitioning out of the service, right,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 15: are still looking for a sense of purpose, right, They're
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 15: looking for community. And so for me, I saw the
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 15: application to run. Probably can't say this anymore after running
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 15: across the country, but I'm not normally a runner.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 3: I'd rather be in the gym most days of the week.
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 3: I think you're legit runners. Actually I think you got there.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 15: But all that to say, right was ultimately they were
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 15: trying to run twelve veterans run across the country, raise
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 15: a million dollars to enriched veterans' lives through health and wellness.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 15: And that just completely speaks to something that I'm passionate
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 15: about and something that I believe there's purpose in, especially
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 15: after you know, navigating my own journey and recovering from
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 15: injury sustained in Afghanistan.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 3: There are more than I don't need to tell you this,
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: I'll tell our audience. There are more than three million.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 4: Veterans who served in combat in Iraq, in Afghanistan, many
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 4: of whom are homeless. Many of the who who don't
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 4: have the quality of life they deserve for defending our
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 4: country and work risking their lives and it's sometimes dismembered
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: and now are somewhat cast aside by society.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 3: How do we fix this?
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: This is an age old probably we know that this
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 4: is back to World War One, World War two, Vietnam.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 4: We've all seen veterans homeless under bridges and not where
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 4: they should be in our society. From where perspective, How
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 4: did we get here and how do we fix this?
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 16: I think from our perspective, and it's not exactly what
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 16: Team Red, White and Blue does, but in terms of
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 16: other nonprofits and actually corporations like USAA leaning into this
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 16: problem is where it's going to get solved. It's going
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 16: to take a community, grassroots effort that's backed by like
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 16: the corporate.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 8: Might of like USAA.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 16: They announced this Veteran's Day their Honor through Action program
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 16: and reached out to several different organizations looking at both
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 16: health and wellness, which is where a big part of
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 16: that effort your personal satisfaction and job satisfaction and then
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 16: financial security that really leans into this, you know problem
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 16: with our homeless vets and those folks that are just
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 16: trying to like you know, get back on their feet
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 16: and continue to get back after it. I mean, yeah,
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 16: So I think it's gonna take that effort together people
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 16: really kind of getting out and getting back on those
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 16: streets to help out do the things they need to do.
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 16: We can't solve it behind our computer screens or behind
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 16: our phones. It's gonna take community action and us doing
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 16: it together. So I think we're really excited to be
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 16: a part of that in terms of the health and
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 16: wellness side of what we do from veterans and this,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 16: you know, push to get the message out that our
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 16: veteran population is quite literally like an untapped resource that
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 16: can just take the nation to the next level. You know,
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 16: you may fall on hard times, but your service didn't
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 16: damage you. It actually gave you the tools, the strength
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 16: and resiliency to get through some of the roughest times.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 3: So I think if we if we lean into that.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 16: Empower those folks, you know, we're gonna we're gonna solve
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 16: it and move to the next level.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 6: How can your average citizen, you know, civilian help you
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 6: guys with this, you know, besides getting the word out
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: and everything. I assume there's a way that people can contribute.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 15: Yeah, absolutely, and so you know I'll answer that and
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 15: just add slightly to what Solly was just saying.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: And that's you know.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 15: Also, movement is medicine, right, and so I think part
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 15: of it is there's this top down approach, right, and
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 15: you also have the bottom up approach where we still
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 15: have our own individual choices, and so to get out
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 15: and move right and to do that with people with community,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 15: I think also helps kind of write lesson that not
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 15: having a sense of purpose and so all that to
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 15: say is right, how can people help want? One of
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 15: the best ways, right, go to TMRWB dot org. Yes
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 15: it's a veteran organization, but it's not just for veterans, right,
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 15: So whether you're a family member or whether you're a civilian, right,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 15: you can go on there, you can sign up, you
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 15: can get engaged in your local chapter. And then you
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 15: know that offers multiple benefits of one, now you're moving
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 15: with community, so yes, you're improving your overall livelihood, right,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 15: and your health and wellness, But then you're also getting
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 15: that shared sense of purpose and community, and you know
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 15: at a very tactical level that you're helping bridge kind
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 15: of that civil military divide, right that we still see.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 3: Continue to exist.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 15: And you get a much different perspective exactly of what
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 15: Soley was talking about, of wow, like our veterans aren't broken, right,
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 15: there's such a narrative around this, and now I can see, hey, yep,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 15: maybe this person is homeless, and maybe there's different circumstances
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 15: of why. But now they can turn to movement, right,
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 15: they can turn to the people to the left or
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 15: right in them just like they did in the service,
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 15: to help pick them up. And I think we need
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 15: to start right helping pick people up a lot more
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 15: versus you know, which is partially asking for help and
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 15: recognizing that you need help, but instead of just like
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 15: pointing at you and kicking you while you're down.
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  Speaker 4: That's the voice of Zach pelega former Army Commander ranger
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 4: combat veteran wounded warrior Mike Sullivan thirty years in the
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 4: Army Green Beret. They're now dedicating their lives to helping veterans,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 4: joining us here at the one hundred and twenty sixth
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 4: Army Navy Game in Baltimore, Maryland. Zach, we have just
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 4: glossed over the fact that you ran across the country
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: Forrest Gump style. How long did that take? How much
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 4: did you run a day? If I'm not mistaken, I
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: read your pace was like seven and or eight miles
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 4: eight min miles. You weren't exactly walking. Tell us about
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 4: the physical exertion level. How many were on your team
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 4: and how much did you run a day?
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 3: For how many days?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: Absolutely so?
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 15: Overall three thousand miles, just over three thousand miles. Launched
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 15: from the deck of the USS midway and then finished
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 15: at the future side of the Global wan Terra Memorial
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 15: in Washington, d C.
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: That's San Diego, California. Check a map out people, how
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: far he ran?
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 15: And yeah, so there's a team of twelve veterans and
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 15: we so, like I said, three thousand miles average roughly
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 15: a seven forty three per mile pace.
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: Oh you were just slacking, Yeah, we were.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 15: You know, some of the altitude once you start to
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 15: hit the seven eight thousand, you know, feet in altitude
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 15: going through the rockies, it starts to get you a
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 15: little bit. But but yeah, and you know, absolutely humbling opportunity.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 15: Incredible group. That team RWD did a phenomenal job of
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 15: right selecting twelve veterans that all each have their individual
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 15: stories that get out after resilience and write the ability
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 15: to bounce back and so his absolutely team effort. But
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 15: sixteen days NonStop carrying the flag that was flown in combat,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 15: right all to pay homage to returning home and knowing
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 15: that our service still continues even once we come home.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Sixteen consecutive days, sixteen you weren't doing like Monday through
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  Speaker 4: Thursday with three day weekends.
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  Speaker 3: How much did you run per day.
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 15: Yep, so I overall averaged two hundred and seventy miles
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 15: top person on the team. I ask you per day,
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 15: Zach per day? Yeah, so per day we were putting
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 15: in about eighteen to twenty miles per day.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, two hundred and seventy miles. You ran yourself myself, Mike,
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 3: what were you doing? Were you in the sag van?
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: I was taking a lot of coffee.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 16: He was keeping us fueled, doing some Instagram Yeah, so yeah,
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 16: myself and our deputy director were kind of the brains
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 16: behind it. So the the logistically, thirty years in the
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 16: army literally the hardest thing that I ever I can
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 16: imagine you would think that, you know, following someone going
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 16: steven hour across the country is probably pretty easy, but
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 16: coordinating hotels, gas, food, all the things, and making sure
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 16: all twelve runners were raring to go. And they literally
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 16: carried a flag that I actually had taken to Afghanistan
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 16: in combat, so it was a personal story for me
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 16: as well. But that flag was the relay baton that
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 16: went across America as well. Wow, and it never stopped,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 16: so that those these twelve veterans never stopped over six
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 16: You know that sixteen day period through snow ninety degree weather.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 16: You know the altitude he talked about in the Rockies,
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 16: the plateau of Texas that just never seemed to ever end.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 16: That you just the road was just this long straight shot.
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 16: It was an amazing way to see the country, but
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 16: an awesome experience as well to get the story out
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 16: about Team Red, White and Blue and these amazing resilient veterans.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 8: That were just moving this thing forward.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: Before we go, I have to ask you, what did
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: you learn about our country because you saw it in
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 4: experience it in a way nobody ever will.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 15: Yeah, no, great question, Frank. It might be controversial, right,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 15: but something that the national media doesn't focus on enough
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 15: that I think right, local radio, local news really helps
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 15: and that's there wasn't a single place that we didn't
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 15: go through where people were not coming out right to
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 15: the edges of their lawn to the sidewalks lining up.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 15: You not even know what was going on, but they
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 15: would just see the American flag go by, right, and
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 15: they would cheer. And so when you look at everything
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 15: that's going on in our country, but to see that
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 15: when you're tired, when you're going through all the elements
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 15: like The sense of unity and the purpose that you
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 15: felt doing that and that everyone was supporting you was
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 15: absolutely incredible to witness and just right it continued to
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 15: give me faith and hope in all of the people
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 15: right of the United States.
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  Speaker 3: Wow, Zach Pelega, Mike Sullivan, thank you, not just for
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 3: what you've done for our country, which you continue to do,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 3: and hopefully we can solve this issue for the veterans
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 3: and give them the lives they deserve. Thank you for
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 3: the lives you've given us in defending our country. Thank you,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, appreciated. Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: We'll be back from one hundred and twenty sixth Army
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  Speaker 4: Navy Game in Baltimore. We're live on ninety three point
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  Speaker 4: three kJ RFM.
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  Speaker 1: Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast presented by
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: USAA in Baltimore at the Baltimore Convention Center. Here's Jessman
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: McIntyre and Greg Bell on Sports Radio ninety three point
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  Speaker 4: Back at the one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy Game,
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 4: Live on ninety three point three KJRFM, Greg Bell, Jessman
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: McIntyre and joined now by Tom Theodoracus. He's the athletic
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 4: director at Army West Point, and he's not He just
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 4: took the job in February, but he's not new to
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 4: this game. He was in the Army Athletic Director deputy
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 4: athletic director under Mike Buddy. Mike Buddy became the Texas
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 4: Christian University athletic director and then in February THEO you
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 4: took over the job.
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  Speaker 3: And first of all, thanks for joining us.
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 4: But can you, just as a representative of Army west
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 4: Point try to even put into words what this game
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 4: means to that community, to the Army, to our country.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: You know, well, first off, thank you for having me.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 14: It's hard to put this game into work, to be
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 14: can with you. You know, it's for me, it's Army
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 14: Navy is a game you feel, right, I think for me,
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 14: it's just it's very emotional, you know, and it's it's
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 14: it represents you know, this year, we're wearing a uniforms
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 14: that represent two hundred and fifty years of the Army.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 14: I mean, think about that, right and how many soldiers
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 14: that represents. And we have an opportunity to play a
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 14: football game, but to also tell a story of the
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 14: amazing men and women who've decided to dedicate their life
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 14: to service and protect our freedoms. So for us, you know, yeah,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 14: we want to be Navy, that's what we do. But
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 14: you know, there's just so much this game of how
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 14: it connects with people, how we're able to tell our
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 14: story on a national stage. I mean, it's it's hard
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 14: not to get emotional about that.
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 6: We were at the breakfast, at the welcome breakfast this
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 6: morning that they have for the media, and you know,
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: Braggs was saying that that. You know, it's like, Okay,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: we want to beat each other in a game, but
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: then all of a sudden we lock arms.
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 5: The second it's over, we.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 3: Do, and then we want to beat him again.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: The state of college sports, in football in particular, I'd
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: argue this is now the last pure major college football game.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 4: And you could throw the zoomis of air Force in
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 4: there too, but nothing speak exactly. I say that with pride.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 4: I say that with pride. There are one hundred and
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 4: five players on the Army team, one hundred and five
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 4: players on Navy. The total nil money between those two
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 4: schools zero. There's not a player on the field tomorrow
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 4: that's earned a dollar of nil money that alone separates you.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 4: How do you view from your a unique vantage point
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: college football, college sports.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 3: Let's not even argue whether it's broken or not. How
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: do we fix it? And where does Army and Navy
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: fit into the future of college football?
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 14: So how I see it in this turbulent, you know,
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 14: time period, is it's actually a time for us to
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 14: look in the mirror, right, rather thanocus on others.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 14: So for us, it's let's be the best version of
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 14: Army west Point. And I've actually challenged our coaches and
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 14: I've challenged our staff, is how do we benefit in
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 14: this whole flame rather than look at what we don't have?
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 14: And I'll tell you where we benefit. It's the degree
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 14: from West Point. It's the opportunity to get your degree
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 14: in leadership, as you know, right. And when we talk
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 14: to mom and dad and we talk to recruits, it's, yeah,
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 14: you might not get that short term and I ol
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 14: money if that's something you're looking for, but look at
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 14: the long term investment.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 14: It's it's not a transational, transational, transactional experience, but it's
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 14: a transformational experience that if you go to this institution,
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 14: there are a lot of examples of things disguise the
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 14: limit about what you can accomplish. So you can be
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 14: a general officer, right, we have a lot of examples
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 14: of that. But you also could own a hockey team.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 14: You know, we have two lums that own NHL teams
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  Speaker 14: ANHL exactly. I'm one Stanley Cup. So you know, I
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  Speaker 14: think for us, it's it's selling that long term goal.
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 14: It's selling you, sir. To be honest with you, it's like,
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 14: you know what you go through this place, there's a
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 14: world of opportunity and that's gonna it's gonna set you
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 14: up for life. So I think in so many ways,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 14: let's focus on what we do have and what we
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 14: can do here is develop student cadet athletes. Right, so
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 14: you know we make the joke our team photo looks
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 14: the same almost every single year, right, we do graduate people? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 14: well it's you know they do. We well have some transfers,
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 14: that's always gonna happen. But you know, you can build teams,
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 14: you can build a culture, you can build cohesion. In
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 14: this world of college athletics. Maybe that's the secret sauce
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 14: to a lot of things, because if you look at
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 14: the last two years Army Navy football has done pretty well,
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 14: you know, and I think especially when you look at
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 14: Navy of what they've done this year. You know, our
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 14: team we lost a lot, but the fact that we're
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 14: still bull eligible and we're playing at a very high
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 14: level right now, I think there's let's focus on what
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 14: we can do here, and I think that could separate us.
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  Speaker 4: Do you have do you find it harder to recruit
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 4: student athletes are easier in this climate?
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  Speaker 14: You know, I'd say it's about the same, you know.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 14: I think it's just tackling. It's really educating people on
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 14: what the academy is and it's not hiding from it.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 14: It's understanding. It's trying to find those men and women
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 14: out there that want to be challenged, you know, because
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 14: that's still out there and there are people that want
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 14: to go through this process and want to grow and
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 14: to go back to my earlier point, you know, go
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 14: through this and there's a world of opportunity for you,
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 14: and I think a lot of people there's still a
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 14: world out there where there's men and women that want
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 14: to be a part of that.
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  Speaker 3: This is time Theo Theodoreocas.
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  Speaker 4: He's the athletic director at Army West Point during us
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 4: here in the one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy
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  Speaker 4: Game in Baltimore on ninety three point three KJR FM.
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  Speaker 4: I asked this every year. I asked it of your predecessor,
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 4: Mike Buddy all the time. THEO there are a lot
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: of listeners here on KJR that would love the Army
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 4: Navy game. You get to the West Coast and the
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 4: Pacific Northwest with the military presence there, how feasible is that?
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 4: I know there's talk that perhaps Atlanta might bid for
• 1:47:42
  Speaker 4: one in a couple of years. It's rotated more now
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 4: than it ever has out of Philadelphia, but still on
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 4: Largia in the East coast.
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 3: Has there been talk of moving it west? It's a
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 3: very good question.
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  Speaker 14: I will tell you we're open, right, So, I think
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 14: from this summer and we go through this every single
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 14: you know, it's it's a constant evaluation of how do
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 14: we continue to put the game in the best, you know,
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 14: the best the biggest stage possible and also provide a
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 14: great experience for our cadets and and for us working.
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 14: By the way, it's not just an Army decision, right,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 14: you're also working with navyes. So it's we have to
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 14: be aligned in that way. And I think as much
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 14: as we are rivals, you know, we work very well
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 14: together and we can say, you know what, how do
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 14: we continue to put this game on the biggest stage possible. Now,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 14: there are inherent challenges right with what the game is
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 14: and what it's about in the sense of the core
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 14: cadets need to be there, right, So how do you
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 14: travel that many cadets in one you know, right across
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 14: the country?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 8: Right?
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 14: Those are things you just need to think about, you know,
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 14: because we don't just want to put them on a
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 14: train or bus and say see you later, right, they
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 14: need we want to make sure they enjoy it and
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 14: that they're they feel part of the whole, not just
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 14: the game, but the week where they can have a
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 14: great experience. So for us, we're open minded. I think
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 14: we need to be, and we want to continue to
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 14: elevate this game and get as many eyeballs on as
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 14: possible and make sure to tell this story to them
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 14: as many people as possible.
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  Speaker 3: So we're open.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 14: But you know, moving the game out Western in these
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 14: other areas we just acknowledge, Hey, we need to figure
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 14: out ways to move things like the core cadets and
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 14: make sure that you know they have a great experience
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 14: as well.
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  Speaker 6: My first year here at this game was four. This
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 6: is my fourth, and so I went. Greg was the
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 6: one who told me, how amazing this.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 3: Is four game.
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  Speaker 5: This is my fourth one.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 3: Okay, so we're two and one. Yeah, right, Yes, I
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 3: was explaining that to you. Everyone wants to know your record.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: So, by the way, you don't even cue me up
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 3: for that, like exactly, you know.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 6: Yeah, But anyway, when I first went, yeah, it gets
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 6: talked about, it's bucket list, it's this and that. It
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 6: blew my mind away beyond what anyone had said. And
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 6: now I will be there for the march on. I
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 6: am getting there three hours early, four hours early. I'll
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: be there for everything. So what would you say to
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 6: people to kind of educate them, because I feel like
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 6: you have to experience, but if you want as many
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: eyes on it as possible, and if you want as
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 6: many people there, I mean, I know it's so cells
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 6: out every year, but what would you tell people out
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 6: there who haven't experienced it.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 14: Yeah, So it's to my point earlier, right, it's a
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 14: game you feel so as much as CBS does an
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 14: amazing job of storytelling, right, They go in depth and
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 14: tell the stories of these amazing men and women that
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 14: have gone to these institutions. But you know, for us,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 14: how unique is it to have a march on?
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 3: Right? No one else does that. You know, It's not
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 3: a lot of institutions can say that.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 14: Yeah, the flyovers, cannon's going off, things exploding, yeah, I
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 14: mean it's it's we do a lot for the fan experience,
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 14: and I think this game is so unique where we
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 14: try to embrace what these institutions are about. And one
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 14: of those things that is things like the march on
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 14: and things like the tsunami where the cadets you know,
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 14: are able to jump and dance around. You're like, those
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 14: are things that just make this our institutions so unique,
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 14: and we try to lean into that as much as possible.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 3: So we're excited.
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 14: You know, for for any individual who comes to the
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 14: game that they leave, you know, the Army Navy games undefeated,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 14: people always leave saying you know what this, I feel
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 14: good about the country, I feel good about these men
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 14: and women that are going to be future leaders, and
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 14: and I want to go next year.
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: THEO Theody Rockets, the athletic director at Army West Point
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 4: joining us from the one and twenty sixth Army Navy game.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 3: You're a Syracuse lacrosse player. What is the coolest thing
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 3: about your job? Leading coaches, athletics directors, staff, student athletes,
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 3: cadets at West Point. You know, every single day you're
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 3: around just such decorated individuals and it's something I don't
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: take for granted. And by the way, that's the cadets themselves.
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 3: You know, just being around them, they're looking you in
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 3: the eye. You know, they they're saying yes, sir, yes, ma'am.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 3: There's a level of respect, and they're just the the
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 3: high the level of cadet that we're bringing in right
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 3: now from an academic standpoint, and what they're able to
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 3: do while they're here. You know, they're building rockets right
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 3: right nost doing that. That's it's it's what they're doing
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 3: on projects day, things like that. They're doing things that
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 3: are going to impact this world. And how fortunate are
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 3: we to be around that and to be to to say,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 3: you know what, you know, this is again to my
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 3: earlier point, the future leaders of this country feel pretty
• 1:51:58
  Speaker 3: darn proud because you know what they're going to do
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 3: some great things. But every single day is a blessing.
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 3: And I'll just tell you what I love is graduation
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 3: where you actually see him on the day is walk
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 3: up and grab their diploma, you know. And by the way,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 3: they're not done yet.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 14: That's just the beginning, right, It's like it's just that's
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 14: the start where they're gonna accomplish some great things. So
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 14: to see that, to feel that, Man, I have the
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 14: best job in the world. You you, sir Harry Steward
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 14: of excellence. I appreciate you, appreciating that. Thank you for
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 14: joining us here.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: On ninety three point three KJFM, Tom Theo Theodocus, the
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 4: athletic director for the team that will win one hundred
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 4: and twenty sixth Army.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 3: About the Mariners. We can do that, I mean, Yankees fan,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: you don't want to talk. Oh well, never mind New York.
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 3: Not the MVP race. He voted for Aaron Judge. Oh man,
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 3: that was a tough one. That was a tough thing. Tom.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you you guys. I appreciate it. Coming up, we'll wrap.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: It up from one hundred and twenty sixth Army Navy
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 4: Game brought to you by USAA and Baltimore, Maryland live
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: from the East Coast on ninety three point three KJRFM.
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: Now back to our special Army Navy broadcast presented by
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 1: USAA and Baltimore at the Baltimore Convention Center. Here's Jessman
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 1: McIntyre and Greg Bell on Sports Radio ninety three point
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: three kJ r FM.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 4: Welcome back, Welcome back to Baltimore at one hundred and
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 4: twenty sixth Army Navy Game. And that's why McIntyre Greg
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: Bell here from Baltimore. The big news of the day
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: is that Washington State University has reportedly hired its new
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: head football coach, Kirby Moore, and the Missouri offensive coordinator
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: at Prosser High School. Prosser, Washington native, played at Boise State,
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 4: did most of his teeth cutting and college football coaching
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 4: at Fresno State, where he was the first time play
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 4: caller a few years ago, and now the last few
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 4: years been Missouri's offensive coordinator. In play caller, he becomes
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 4: the new coach of Washington State University, taking over for
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 4: Jimmy Rodgers, who stayed just one year before leaving for
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 4: Iowa State. Dave Softy Maw're back home where I hope
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 4: it's a little drier than it was when we left.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: Nothing's changed.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 17: Hey, by the way, how come you're the one that
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 17: always gets to go to the Army Navy game? Like,
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 17: were you in the army or something? I don't know,
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 17: you might jeez, I mean I was a cub scout.
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 17: Do I get to go one year for to come
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 17: on over?
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 3: Come on over with. I haven't been to Baltimore for
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 3: thirty years.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 17: Nineteen ninety seven Mariners Orioles al Ds was the last
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 17: time I.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 3: Was in Baltimore.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 3: What shared a room in New York, Vinnie?
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 17: As a matter of fact, Oh, wow, that's that's the
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 17: That's the biggest thing I remember from that trip is
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 17: sharing a room a hotel room.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 3: I bet that was a doubble. I left the scar
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 3: and that's for sure, both of us, both of us. Yeah.
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 3: But no, it's weather.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 17: It's broken here a little bit uh cloudy skies, but
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 17: no precipitating for now, so thank god. But we're hanging
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 17: up Tom's watch bar across the street from Climate Pledge Arena,
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 17: getting ready for a little viewing party. Mikey Benton's got
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 17: a little cracking mammoth viewing party and then as soon
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 17: as the show's over, I'm gonna jump on a plane
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 17: and head to LA for the final LA Ball tomorrow.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: So there you got the final, the final Jimmy kibbles slash,
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 3: what the.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 17: Pump up, pucked up, bucked up, bucked up l A
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 17: Ball And now it's Gronk, It's Rob Gronkowski. Yeah, you
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 17: get him involved, everything goes to hell in a hand basket, right, yeah.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: Uh yeah, that's probably why they decided, I think so.
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 6: I think so I went to we went to the
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: l A Ball when it was the Jimmy Kimmelo Bowle,
• 1:55:31
  Speaker 6: and uh, they really get into the presentation. I will
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: just say that Jimmy Jimmy was heavily, heavily involved.
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 3: Good probably lack substance.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 17: But you know what, I've it was on my bucket list,
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 17: honestly going to the LA Ball, and so I'm glad
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 17: that I got it under the radar before, under the wire,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 17: before they cut it off.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 3: Before.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 17: Oh never happened to so far. But I've always wanting
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 17: to go attend and watch an l A Ball in person.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 17: I'm being totally sarcastic, but everything you said for the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 17: last thirty seconds I think this ball game is absolutely idiotic.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 17: I think it's ridiculous that Husky fans had six days
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 17: to plan to get to LA in southern California to
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 17: watch their team play. And I'm not surprised the whole
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 17: thing's going to hell.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 3: So there you go. Yeah, what is Washington get out
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 3: of this?
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 17: Another chance to play and get to nine wins and
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 17: for Jetfish to promote the fact that they took over
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 17: a garbage dump and then two years later won nine games.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: That's exactly it.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 3: Where are we at on? You think Jetfish and Michigan
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 3: is a smoke?
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I mean, I just think that they would have
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 17: to go pretty far down the list before they got
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 17: to him. You know, I mean no disrespect to jet
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 17: but you know, I mean he's eight and four. He
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 17: doesn't have a signature win yet when he's at U
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 17: dub if he had knocked off four Oregon, or if
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 17: he was, you know, ten and two and going to
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 17: the CFP, then I could see it. But I think
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 17: Michigan's got its sight set on maybe a much bigger name,
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 17: and I think the name that they want is currently
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 17: getting ready for a playoff game.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: By the way, in Norman Alahol.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say Norman Oklahoma, Kaylin de Borg. Although
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 4: if you're in Alabama, you match whatever Michigan. That's the
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 4: one school that can match whatever Michigan would offer.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: Kaylen.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 17: Yeah, I don't know if Kayln's about the money right now, man, Honestly,
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 17: I mean, I don't know if his uh, if he's
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 17: feeling it down there or not. Maybe he is, you know,
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 17: I think just knowing him a little bit, I mean
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 17: I was with him for two years, not ten years, right,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 17: so I got to know him a little bit, but
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 17: not like I did other coaches at Washington, And I
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 17: think he would look at that as kind of a
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 17: failure if he took off after two years in Tuscal Lucid.
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 17: But I also think his agent has a lot to
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 17: say about these things. So Jimmy Sexton's like the new
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 17: power broker man of college football, and he's gonna find
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 17: some way, somehow to make his clients a lot of
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 17: money during this current cycle.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 3: I can guarantee you that shot and in Impress is
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 3: making himself some more money going today.
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 17: Well, let's see Pete Cavender, a former offensive lineman of
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 17: Boys State. He's on the broadcast with our friend Bob
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 17: Beeler for the radio Call for Boys. He'll join us
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 17: coming about three twenty eight today, a leash Sterling, our handicapper,
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 17: will join us as well. Hugh Millen's Gotta Hop On
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 17: Everett will be on with us before face off from
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 17: Salt Lake City and we're at Tom's. Man, we're literally
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 17: fifteen feet away from a bar. So Dick and I
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 17: really don't care what's happening on the radio show. We
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 17: care what's coming out of that bar about twenty feet
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 17: away from us. I'm a simple man with simple needs.
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 17: Big boy, that's all you need. That's right, that's all
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 17: you need. Well, thank you, sir.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: We look for that. Hey, great show today, by the way,
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 3: you guys shouted it off.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate that, appreciate that. Yes, this is a special deal,
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  Speaker 4: it really is. I'm gonna go have reunions with my classmates.
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  Speaker 4: Jessemond mcintyren. I will spending the rest of the weekend,
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  Speaker 4: including at the Army Navy game tomorrow. If you tune in,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 4: you should tune in. You really should watch it noon
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow and CBS. But really, if you ever can get
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  Speaker 4: here to get there, Jessemine, Thank.
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  Speaker 3: You, thank you for everything.
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  Speaker 5: It's another success.
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  Speaker 4: Up next, Say Goodbye from Baltimore, Go Army Beat Navy.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: Up next, Dave Softymon and Dick Payne on Only three
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