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Trent is joined by Nick Marovets, Is a 24 Team CFP inevitable? Eliot Clough talks Hawkeyes · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Good afternoon, welcome in Miller and Condon on the air
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with you on a Wednesday as we talk the world of sports.
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Taking you till 2O clock here this afternoon before Lucas and
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Sean take over the airwaves. Off the bench until 5 O clock in
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overtime. Iowa takes you home from 5:00
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until 6. Trent Condon joined today by our
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man Nick Marvitz back in with us once again locked on cyclones.
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Nick, good to see you. Good hanging out with you
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yesterday and well you didn't get scared away, you're back for
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day #2. I did so while you were willing
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to have me back. I can't believe it.
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Two days in a row. It's going to be so much fun.
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Absolutely. We got a lot to get into here
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today. Coming up on the guest list.
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We'll kick things off coming up at about the bottom of the hour.
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Some Hawkeye talk with Elliott Clough is going to join us from
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hawkeyeinsider.com. Part of 24/7 Sports will get the
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latest in the recruiting world as Iowa continues to dabble and
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work the Not Trace for Portal anymore back into the
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traditional high school recruiting.
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Some potential big news coming up for Iowa, a state later today
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with an announcement of Donovan Davis.
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Who's going to make his announcement now Iowa is amongst
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his top five, but boy, all indications are that he is going
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to be a cyclone. And is it a 6:00 announcement?
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Do you remember offhand when that is I?
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Want to say it was 745? A little bit later on, another
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Milwaukee guy, another Wisconsin guy, and we know TJ Altsenberger
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definitely has his sights set there and he has done incredibly
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well. Very fertile territory.
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We'll talk some recruiting and more coming up with Elliot
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Clough here at about 12:25. Then the 1:00 hour begins with
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David Kaplan. Our weekly conversation with the
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cap man as we will talk a lot of things.
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The Cubs remain red hot. Their second consecutive walk
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off victory, the Bears now looking forward coming off the
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draft and how can all the pieces are fitting together for the
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Bears? A year ago, of course, had so
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much go their way, those bounces that didn't go their way the
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year previous. And then the NFL seems to even
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itself out. What the Bears are going to do
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and if there's still more to be done for that roster, we'll talk
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about that and more. Plus maybe a White Sox question.
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They're playing well. I didn't anticipate this was
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going to happen, but yes, maybe even the White Sox a question.
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We'll jump in there with David Kaplan that comes up to kick off
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the 1:00 hour. Well, Nick, we go through and a
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pretty big story percolated that we touched on a little bit
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yesterday. But it becomes even more real.
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A story from Ross Dellinger of Yahoo as he talked about, once
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again, the possibility of an expansion to a 24 team College
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Football Playoff bracket. And now the coaches are behind
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it. And it's, you know, so
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interesting because for so many years in the SEC, everyone was
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in lockstep. You didn't hear coaches, you
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didn't hear administrators, you didn't hear commissioner, none
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of that. It was all they were having the
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same conversation. It was the same talking points.
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The solidarity that the SEC had was a big part of the strength
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that they had, coupled with obviously the great football
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that went along with it. Now you're seeing fractures from
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a couple weeks ago when Greg Byrne, the athletic director at
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Alabama, said, now you know what, the SEC championship game,
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maybe it doesn't matter anymore. I mean, when you're hearing that
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from a sitting athletic director and one at Alabama, that
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obviously, I think caused a little bit of a stir.
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And now from Kirby Smart to other coaches saying, you know
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what, a 2014 playoff might not be a bad thing.
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They were steadfast. They wanted the 16.
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Is it feeling inevitable to you that we're going to get a 2014
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bracket? Absolutely.
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I mean, up until this point, it was kind of just like a theory,
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a possibility. It did feel like it was going to
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happen, but there wasn't AI felt like a lot of backing behind it.
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Now with this AFCA board all kind of getting in line and all
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these coaches are like, you know what let's just go ahead and do
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it. I, I feel feel like obviously
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this board isn't going to make the decision, but there's enough
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support, I would say that's public now that it really does
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feel inevitable. The other big component of this
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is the discontinuation of conference championship games.
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It changes the way that we look at college football, what a
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championship means, those kind of things.
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But in the grand scheme of it, to get more playoff games, to
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double your amount of playoff games that you would get a
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little bit more as you go from 11 playoff games in the 12 team
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structure up to 23 games. Now that would be part of this.
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Now, not all these games are going to be great.
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Not all the games are certainly going to rate in the way that
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we're used to, but as a bowl structure continues to diminish
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more and more teams, and that was a point that Kirby Smart
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made, is look, bowl games don't have the same meaning.
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And it's something that is been just a downward trend now for a
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decade. You could still have some of the
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bowl games you can still have them for.
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Keep the Pop Tart bowl. But right, yeah, pop top bro,
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you want to put a seven and five Iowa State team against A7 and
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five Utah team, Sure, you do things like that, that's fine.
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But it's ultimately about the championship.
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And you know, one talking point that I guess has bothered me
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during this whole time is the people that say the regular
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season is going to be devalued. If you go this route, it's going
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to devalue something that has certainly impacted college
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basketball because for the most part, you know, the good teams
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are going to get in regular season game just doesn't have
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the same kind of weight. My argument is I think this is
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going to bring even more teams into the fold.
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And for so many years, once we got to November, we could cross
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off 90% of the teams that had nothing at least playoff wise to
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play for at that point. When you build this thing out,
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suddenly that November Iowa Wisconsin game, both teams come
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in six and three. You know, something like that.
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Well, there's real weight on this.
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You win those final three games of the regular season, you get
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to 9 and three. You got a possibility.
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You go into November with something that is realistic,
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attainable, and that's going to, I believe, open up more.
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And if you had that Iowa, Wisconsin game, look here
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different, but in the South suddenly, hey, there might be a
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playoff bid on the line here. This is an important game for
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the playoff. How many more people, casual
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fans are going to be watching those?
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Not the top tier games, not the Alabama, Auburn, but that next
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tier of game. I think it's going to involve
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more people, more things to play for.
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And I think in the end, certainly when we get towards
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the end of the season, it's going to help college football,
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the ratings and the viewership because you're going to have
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more games that actually matter for a playoff.
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No, I think you're exactly right, because the argument is
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that by doing this, we're diminishing the value of the
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loss, right? The loss doesn't matter as much
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early on in the season. But what that does is you can
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take those losses and it extends your season out.
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So if you if you're Iowa State and you lose Week 2, you in the
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in the 14 playoff, you are not making it.
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It just it was a reality. You had to go perfect, you
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probably had to beat some ridiculous non conference teams,
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win your Big 12 championship. Like that was the reality of the
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situation. Now, if you expand it out to 24,
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what can Iowa State lose? Probably 2, maybe 3 depending on
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where their losses are in their schedule, especially if they're
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early and it's a, you know, really good opponents or
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whatever the case is. That brings a lot of value to
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those November, you know, late late season games.
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And so I actually think that's maybe the only benefit of this.
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When you touched on the conference championship thing
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there, that was something we talked about yesterday with the
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automatic bids. And what does the Big 12 do
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with, with only two? If they get 2 bids, then it's
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like what we've already kind of devalued that game.
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If both teams in the, in the, in the, excuse me, in the game are
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guaranteed a spot, what does that even mean?
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I, I don't love the idea of getting away from conference
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championships, but it feels like we've been shifting that
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direction for a while now with ring culture and with it really
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all being about the ultimate national championship anyway.
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And so I guess if this is a byproduct of the larger playoff,
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which, you know, I think making the playoffs is there's always
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that like once you're in the dance, you got a chance, right?
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And so I, I, I don't love the, the disassembly of the
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conference championship, but if you know, if it has to happen, I
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guess it has to happen. Chip in the chair, that's all
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you need. Get in there, make a run and be
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that Cinderella. And a lot of teams in the middle
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of the conferences are going to have that hope that they can do
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that. So another component to this is
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something I, I don't know if I mentioned it to you, but I know
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our listeners are definitely hurt going back to 2020.
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I absolutely love the idea that the Big 10 had where they had
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that final week of the season. Obviously it was the weird year.
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Big 10, what do they have 6 scheduled games?
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I think it was. But the final week they're just
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going to bat you up. Iowa was supposed to play
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Michigan. Michigan chickened out.
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They would have got throttled and you talk about a, a, you
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know, just sliding doors moment. Michigan would have bump
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bumbled. I was playing great at that
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point in the year. They would beat him by 40.
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Then they would have played Ohio State.
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They also opted out of that game.
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They probably would have got beat by 60.
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Jim Harbaugh would have been fired.
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Jim Harbaugh would have been gone as the Michigan head coach
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if they played those final two games they were supposed to that
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season. It didn't happen last.
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Jim Harbaugh goes on to win a national championship.
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But one of those sliding door moments that could happen
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throughout the course of a season.
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But the idea was perfect. It was 2020.
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Teams are opting out. That was different.
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But you're going to go into the final week of the season, we
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don't know who you're going to play.
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You're going to play somebody and you probably have to set up
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beforehand. Look, half the teams you're
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going to be at home. Here's the other half that are
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going to be Rd. so you can at least have your schedule,
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equitable tickets already going to be sold, those kind of
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things. But you go into a final weekend.
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That is actually what the new PAC 12 is doing this season.
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They are going to do something very similar to that.
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Now, they still do have their conference championship game,
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but this is going to happen the final week of the schedule, week
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13. That is November 28th.
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And they have half their teams that are are designated as home
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teams, the other half road and they're going to match it up.
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And it might have something to do with who ultimately gets to
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that championship. But this thought process behind
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it, I think does make a ton of sense.
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And it makes more sense for a big 10 because suddenly you look
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and you say, you know what, I don't know if this nine and
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three team has quite enough on their resume or even an 8 and
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three team, but you know what, you take them on somebody very
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similar to them, probably the same kind of resume.
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And the winner of that game that gets into a championship, I
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think it'd be huge. The problem is you have Ohio
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State, Michigan in that final weekend.
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You're not going to get rid of that.
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We know the television, that revenue that comes out of that
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is the highest rated game every single year.
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You're not going to go away from that is during that what is now
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championship week. Is that still going to be
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available or are we already going to be playing College
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Football Playoff game? So that's the part of the
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calendar that makes that a little bit trickier.
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Yeah, that part of the year is is interesting.
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I think it does make sense from the perspective of how large the
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conferences are. And we talked about yesterday,
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you could end up playing the entire bottom half or the entire
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top half of a conference. And it just puts you in a weird
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spot as far as like, did you lose all those top games?
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Well, are you the worst team in the conference?
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Probably not. But I do think you kind of
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laying all of that out makes me think we've got a reshift
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everything. Yeah, I don't think we're at a
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spot where we can make a tiny tweak.
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You know, we just tighten the lug nut and the tires on.
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We got a we got to get a whole new set of tires at this point.
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So if that, you know, changes when rivalry week is, are we
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doing that, you know, Week 4 early, early on in the season,
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which allows for some back end shifting, you know, I think is
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that the best idea? No, probably not.
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But my point is we really have to get to where we're reframing
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everything. And that comes back to like
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Army, Navy is probably going to be involved and the structure of
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the playoff obviously is in question.
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And then bowl, like you mentioned, bowls are very
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different now than they were 10 years ago.
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And so are they still a part of the playoff?
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Because how many bowl games then?
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Is it only the first round? Is it the last five games?
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All of that gets called into question.
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And I think if they're willing to do it, that's the best way to
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go about this. I don't think you try to keep
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what college football was. And I'd love the the history of
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it, but I think you have to go with a fresh start.
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Yes, yeah. Something new, New ideas.
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There are no. You've been in those meetings,
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right? There are no no, they are stupid
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ideas, but let's hope that some good ones definitely come out of
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that. So that is the latest on what
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looks to be the possibility of this thing changing won't be for
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this year. 2026 is locked in. It will be a 12 team College
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Football Playoff. But in the future, it feels like
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more more momentum continuing for us to jump past 16 and go
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right into the 2014 model top eight teams, you know, opening
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round by and much like the structure is well, in fact, the
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exact same structure of what the FCS playoffs look like the other
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component. So we have to continue with this
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charade with the bowl games, the bowl games being a part of it.
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the Rose Bowl. I know huge Ben do a Rose Bowl
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loved it. But everything in this structure
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and the amount of money that is being left on the table.
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You have the current structure now where we get to the quarter
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final round of these games are playing on both sides.
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You have all the travel that's involved 3 consecutive travel
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dates for even the best of the best teams.
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Then you also have it where the top teams, the top four, don't
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get to host a playoff game when we get to the semifinals.
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I'm fine with it, but I think this structure would be so much
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better these games on campus. What's better, watching a game
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in Arizona at a Fiesta Bowl between whoever or seeing that
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on a college campus, seeing it, Utah, Oregon, not even the top
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tier teams that we see all the time, but those teams that have,
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you know, an incredible season and have that opportunity to
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host a playoff game, host 1/4 final game, just how huge that
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would be. I go back to the first year they
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spent a playoff a couple years back that Friday night with
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Notre Dame playing host to Indiana and just that
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environment, how cool that was. It was God awful cold.
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It was just it was brutal in terms of the elements, but the
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stage, the pomp and circumstance, what makes college
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football what it is. We don't see the AFC and FC
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championship games. Nope, sorry.
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We're going to Dallas because we know the Cowboys aren't going to
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be there. That's not how it is.
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Having those home sites, I think would go a long ways.
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And that's another part that I hope they do cut off the bowl
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games. They can still be around.
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They can still do something in their own realm.
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But the amount of money and we hear every athletic department
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out there, every conference talking about we need more
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money. Here's a way to generate more
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money and not give it to these guys in their ugly Blazers.
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Absolutely. Think back to when Iowa State
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won their tenth game of the season against Kansas State.
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I was in the stance for that game and it was frigid cold and
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it was packed. I mean, everyone was there to
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see a historic moment like that and in the cap to the great
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season that was with Jaden and Jalen.
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And you know, it's obviously Farmageddon too.
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So there was a little bit of an extra added effect there.
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But that that kind of environment is what makes
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college football so special. And to take that away from the
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playoffs, to me feels like a disservice to the sport.
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I, I, I feel like you really got to lean into because in my
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opinion, college fan bases are so much more enthusiastic than
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in the pros. And I think you just, you got to
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lean into that. And that's where, you know, I
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think that we get back to that big shifts are probably going to
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have to be made. Let's jump over to what we saw
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last night. What a start in the NBA.
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We're watching the Pistons for a while.
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They pull away late in that one against the Cavs, but late night
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watching the Lakers and the Thunder, is this thing just
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over? I mean, is this just the
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Oklahoma City Invitational and OKC is going to run away from
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everybody? We saw the Spurs and the concern
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for them, and I know they were a tricky matchup for the Thunder
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during the regular season. It's money minus money right
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now. You got to lay it in order to
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play the Thunder to win the NBA championship.
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But are we just setting ourselves up for it's
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inevitable. It's OKC and everybody else.
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That's kind of the question that I had yesterday when we were
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walking through the bracket. I was like, I don't, I don't see
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anyone that is that good. I mean, there are going to be
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challenges. They're probably not going to
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sweep their way to a championship.
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But for somebody to win four games out of seven, of course
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against them, I, I, I find that hard to really put together.
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I'm with you watching last night it did and it didn't even feel
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that the Thunder played their a game last night.
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They hit 13 threes. They they played pretty well and
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they're just toying with the Lakers.
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Reeves look completely out of sorts and you can see that's a
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guy coming off an injury and he was not the guy that you
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certainly anticipate 3 of 16 from the floor.
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That's going to show up in a big time way because they needed his
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scoring. But that's overall with this
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Lakers team. They don't have a beat enough.
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So taking it the other direction, we'll steal game one
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as we talked about yesterday, Anthony Edwards now listed as
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questionable for tonight. I don't think he's going to go.
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I think he used the rest. But that aside, you're OK C, you
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got to pick your opponent in the Western Conference finals.
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Do we think OC wants to see OKC wants to see the Spurs team that
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did give them trouble this year? Or this tough, gritty, physical
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Minnesota team. Who would be their choice?
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I think you'd probably lean Spurs, in this case the
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Timberwolves. If they win out in this series,
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I think they're a much hotter team, a scarier momentum wise
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team. And obviously it would depend
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kind of on where Anthony Edwards is at, but I think you would
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lean for the Spurs here. I and we talked yesterday about
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how like the Timberwolves might be an actually a worse matchup
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for the Thunder in that situation.
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I wanted to circle back to that Thunder Lakers matchup and just
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talk about really, really quick talking point.
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LeBron James 27 points. Yeah, this might be like, I
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don't I'm not taking the Lakers in the series.
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So let's take every game at face value and enjoy what what is
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kind of coming up on the end here of the last few years of
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LeBron. It's incredible.
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I just love watching him and I understand, yes, I have to be an
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MJ guy because of my age. We all have to be MJ guys and we
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have to shout down LeBron. I just enjoy greatness.
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I love watching him play so much and to see it at 41 years old,
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still doing at this level, 27 points.
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He wins a playoff series almost on his own against a Rockets
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team that was a minimum talented, not a good team, but
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talented on that. I I love LeBron.
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I do. We got it on the air.
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MJ still better but I do love you.
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Can do, but you can like both. Yes, absolutely.
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Now Kobe, that's a different kind of conversation and and the
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young Kobe guys, oh boy, they they were different back in the
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day, but that's a different conversation completely.
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NBA playoffs continue and we will get to see Game 2 coming up
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with the T Wolves tonight. That's at 8:30 tip off ESPN has
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that one Sixers, Knicks before it.
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See a bounce back from the Sixers tonight because I kind of
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do I think they they hang around at minimum tonight in New York.
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Yeah, I think we were talking about like maybe momentum after
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that went over the Celtics. Like that was kind of a, an
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exhausting couple of days. I, I, I give them a little bit
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of rest, a little bit of a reset.
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I think they're at least going to push the Knicks here.
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I don't think it's a walk in the park.
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You know, I, I think they maybe MB does a little bit more in
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this game and, and at least keeps it close.
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On the ice, John Heinz made the decision he's going to go with a
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different goalie for the Wild last night.
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They're going to go with Guptesen instead of what we saw
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from the wall in game #1 after giving up eight, nine goals
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overall in that one, didn't go very well.
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Guptesen gives up four. Empty nunder at the end, they
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lose 52. You just go back to Walstad, I
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guess in game three, which we have to wait quite a while
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before we get to game three. That is not going to be until
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Saturday, 3 days off. Kind of weird, but there's
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something going on in Minnesota. I think there was maybe the the
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women's team, I think maybe had ice.
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There was something weird. But regardless, going to have a
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lot of off days here and the decision making now for Heinz,
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what they're going to do in goal.
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They need the time off. They do not look like a better
18:57
team than Colorado. Like if they were to win that
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game last night, it would have been a miracle.
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And right now it kind of feels like it's a the avalanche or the
19:06
Thunder of the NHLA little bit to me and the wild are going to
19:10
have to piece together something kind of ridiculous, which is why
19:13
I didn't necessarily love the move to Gustafson.
19:16
I I feel like they probably should have stuck with the wall.
19:19
But now you have a chance to throw him back in.
19:21
He's got a little rest, He can get the reset and you have to
19:23
win game three. We talked about this like it's
19:25
it is every games must win, but you can't go down O3 to this to
19:29
this ABS team and expect to come back.
19:31
Little baseball already underway, including the Brewers
19:34
and the Cardinals. They just started their match up
19:36
down in Saint Louis after the rain out last night.
19:39
Cubs do it again. back-to-back walk off victories 3 to 2 in
19:42
this 1-2 nights ago when Emiliano Pagan came in for the
19:46
Reds, I just started chuckling because I saw him with the Twins
19:49
and he was awful. Just absolutely brutal.
19:51
I know he's got 6 saves this year.
19:53
He's blown 3, including two nights ago.
19:55
Then he goes down with a hamstring injury that looks
19:57
scary as he was hobbling around out there on the bump.
20:00
But the Cubs just keep winning and the winning streak continues
20:03
at Wrigley Field. Teams put it all together, and
20:06
though the NL Central looks to have a lot of good teams, a lot
20:09
of teams at minimum that are going to be solid throughout the
20:11
course of the year, the Cubs do appear to be on a different
20:14
tier. Yeah, I think it's an exciting
20:15
time to be a Cubs fan. I think obviously right now
20:18
it's, you know, it's May, but you got to take it at face value
20:21
and just enjoy, you know, 24 and 12.
20:23
That's that's pretty good. Not going to.
20:24
Lie, yeah, Dione solid and they get the victory as a winning
20:27
streak in Wrigley continues for the Cubs, now 24 and 12 on the
20:31
season, playing at 106 win pace so far on the season.
20:35
We'll talk more Cubs coming up a little bit later on kick off the
20:38
1:00. Albert.
20:38
David Kaplan will join us from Chicago and we'll get the latest
20:42
on that talk, some White Sox talk, some Bulls, what they're
20:46
going to do in their front office with the change happening
20:48
there. And of course, get into the Cubs
20:49
with Kathy and the Bears all coming up at 1:00.
20:52
Coming up on the other side, we're going to talk some
20:54
Hawkeyes. Elliott Clough is going to join
20:56
us from 24/7 sports hawkeyeinsider.com.
20:59
That is next. Nick Merivitz hanging out with
21:01
me. Trent Condon It's Miller and
21:03
Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
21:13
Back with you, it's Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio
21:16
Network. Trent Condon, Nick Marvitz with
21:18
you today taking you up until 2O clock before off the bench comes
21:21
your way with Lucas and Sean from 2:00 until five.
21:25
Time to talk Hawkeyes joining us from hawkeyeinsider.com.
21:29
He is Elliott Clough as he joins us here today.
21:32
Elliott, once again, great to talk with you, catch up with
21:35
you. It is the quiet time, but you
21:38
guys are always working over there at 24/7 Sports and
21:40
recruiting seems to be kind of the the change now getting back
21:43
into the recruiting territory. How you doing?
21:47
Good, good, Trent. Yeah, for working our butts off
21:51
like crazy with the NCAA Tournament.
21:54
Then to the portal. It weirdly feels like we don't
21:57
have a ton to do right now. But of course, yeah, recruiting,
22:01
helping us out, getting a few commits here and there that that
22:04
keeps us busy. No doubt about it, you guys are
22:07
pumping out the content. You, Sean and David though I
22:10
called on vacation. Do I have this right?
22:13
You do, yeah. Yeah.
22:14
He's he's out of the country, I think Cayman Islands.
22:18
Is that technically AUS territory?
22:20
I'm not sure. I don't know, asking the wrong
22:22
guy. I I struggle at map tap every
22:24
single day. So I'm struggling out that
22:25
front. No, no on that one.
22:27
Well, usually news does break at this point in time.
22:30
What can you tell us? Let's start on basketball.
22:33
So there was a couple of interviews that Coach Mccollum's
22:36
done here recently. He was talking a little bit
22:38
about potentially maybe adding another guard.
22:41
Do you have any names, anybody that would make sense, anything
22:44
that at least you look at and say this guy's still in the
22:46
portal that would go there? Because the likelihood of Tavion
22:49
Banks being back for another season appears to be pretty slim
22:53
at this point. Those JUCO guys getting another
22:55
year of eligibility, What can you tell us in basketball what
22:57
they can potentially do with that final roster spot?
23:02
Honestly, right now not a whole lot.
23:04
It appears that, at least from what we know, that is the plan
23:08
that they are still going to be looking and and considering
23:11
what's in the portal, what's available particularly, it
23:15
sounds like it would be more of a two guard, maybe a combo guard
23:18
that can handle some some on ball duties, but doesn't sound
23:22
like they're in a huge hurry to add a 15th player in the roster
23:27
again, as the Fabion Banks thing is pretty much out of the
23:30
question at this rate. But yeah, if I had to guess, it
23:33
would be somebody that they feel like can can come off the bench
23:36
and shoot a little bit. But as we know, Ben McCollum is
23:40
very picky. So they're not going to, you
23:42
know, go out and just take anybody that's available.
23:45
So honestly, I'd love to give you names.
23:48
I'd love to to tell you who I think they're going to go after.
23:51
But right now it, it's seems really up in the air.
23:54
I mean, the portal is just crazy.
23:57
Who's available, who's not? And so I'd love to tell you
24:00
names, but yeah, really, really have no idea at this point.
24:04
We're we're tracking it as much as we can, but I don't think the
24:06
staff really necessarily knows either regarding who they want,
24:10
who they want to go after. I think that does make a whole
24:13
lot of sense and maybe almost too early in the process though
24:15
we're late in the process for the portal and seeing what they
24:18
wanted to. Plus you're going to get these
24:19
guys that are going to start to work out in the new guys.
24:22
Speaking of the new guys, the two editions out of them out of
24:25
the portal for Iowa. I know you've dug deep kind of
24:28
into both of these guys and the way that they fit.
24:30
And you know the one thing that with both of them though,
24:33
they're completely different players. 173 the other a six one
24:35
guard is how good both of them are in the pick and roll game.
24:38
We know what I would does a ton. It's a whole lot of sets up
24:41
front and you got that pick and roll game that's going to be
24:43
going. Just on the surface, I was like,
24:46
OK, these guys are all right. But boy, when he kind of look at
24:49
the fit, it feels like McCullum got exactly what he was looking
24:51
for. It does, especially with
24:54
McKeever in the short roll. His ability to pass out of the
24:57
pick and roll is really interesting.
24:59
A really underrated part of it is his abilities as as a
25:04
basketball player, because you don't look at that and think, Oh
25:06
my gosh, he's dishing out five assists for a game.
25:09
But yeah, that's something that you get from from a veteran big
25:14
like him. And and then with Coleman, I
25:16
mean, yeah, you've got to be able to be a good, good pick and
25:20
roll guy, especially in the Missouri Valley Conference, one
25:23
of the better mid major conferences in the country.
25:26
So I think those two will complement each other really
25:29
well. But then again, you throw in
25:31
Kale Combs who had them on ball duties this last year and maybe
25:35
a Tate stage who who has the ball in his hands a little bit
25:38
more and that'll be really interesting and really
25:41
complimentary to McKeever. And Cam Mani out got got much
25:44
better as the year progressed in terms of how his ability to pass
25:48
in the short roll. So I think having him, Jim and
25:52
he'll come off the bench, having two guys that'll do that, that
25:55
are good at that as well will be definitely something that Iowa
25:59
and Ben McCollum will want to capitalize on.
26:02
I know women's basketball that cycle, he's got that covered,
26:05
but they're still looking to fill out that roster.
26:07
Do you have any insight or anything that David has passed
26:10
along to you about what's going on there?
26:12
Because currently at 9 players, even if they're players that you
26:15
don't anticipate are going to play, feels like you still have
26:18
more work to do for Jan Jensen. Yeah, they got to fill out that
26:21
roster, man. I, I, I would love to tell you
26:24
I, I know what they're going to do.
26:26
I you calling me for all the answers and I have none of them.
26:31
But you know, I, I, I don't think Iowa is, is at a point
26:36
where they're panicking is, you know, the fan base can and and
26:41
does from time to time. I mean, they they are one of the
26:45
blue bloods. Now, sure, the last two seasons
26:47
haven't gone the way they wanted them to, especially this year,
26:49
this this this spring, but I don't think Iowa is in a is in a
26:55
situation where they're necessarily I I doomed, I guess.
27:01
I mean, they've got the talent on the roster.
27:03
There's still a blue effectively a blue blood at this point.
27:06
You can capitalize off the Caitlin Clark era still and
27:08
maybe you can go international and that's not something that I
27:12
think Jan Jensen would would rule out at this point.
27:15
Maybe you take a flyer on on a big or something like that in
27:21
this class that has some raw ability that isn't quite there
27:24
in terms of skill, but you you could see something pan out down
27:28
the road. Yeah, I mean, it's obviously not
27:31
ideal you'd like to have more players on your roster.
27:34
It's just for depth sake at this point.
27:36
But I think I think Jan Jensen and company are going to figure
27:40
it out. I mean, the staff has
27:41
connections with Sandra Barrett has been a big reason why
27:44
they've been able to add several players, not just this year, but
27:47
last year via the portal. So I, I have a feeling they'll
27:51
figure it out. I, I, I think the concern is
27:54
absolutely valid, especially being at this point in the in
27:57
the offseason, but I also think that Jan Jensen and and company
28:02
will will figure it out. Definitely don't want to go into
28:04
year with 9 players. Couple injuries happen and
28:06
you're in a world of hurt if it plays out in that fashion.
28:09
Elliot Clark joining us hawkeyeinsider.com.
28:11
You're on Miller and Condon on the Iowa sports Radio Network
28:13
and one O 6.3 KX&O. Elliot, let's get into football.
28:17
And before we talk some news and notes and coming out of spring
28:21
and kind of get your perspective on that Monday night, we got to
28:24
see an All Access feature Part 1, which I'm excited about
28:27
because there's going to be even more and inside look into the
28:30
Iowa Hawkeyes and the football program.
28:33
Boy, this is something if you would have said five years ago,
28:35
this is something that's going to be happening.
28:36
I think you would have been laughed out of the room when you
28:38
said that. But that kind of inside luck,
28:41
even though it is curated obviously by the athletic
28:43
department and their video staff and they're not going to put
28:46
anything out there that the football staff doesn't want in
28:48
there. Just it was really cool and
28:50
something that just don't really think of Kurt Ferrands doing
28:53
things like this, but he continues to evolve.
28:57
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I agree. It was really interesting.
29:01
Not something that a lot of programs have the, you know,
29:03
fans have the luxury of getting from their programs.
29:06
This is like a documentary style 15 minutes.
29:09
Sure, we'd all love for it to be an hour, but man, I mean, some
29:13
of the things that you get to see that that these kids
29:15
experience at Iowa, you get to see it more or less first hand,
29:19
I guess. And being part of the meeting
29:22
rooms with even like a Seth Wallace, you get to see Coach
29:26
Ference actually coach with these young offensive lineman.
29:30
And I, I really thought it was interesting to see how involved
29:33
he is day-to-day. Yeah, I'm aware he's the head
29:36
coach, but the guy 70 years old, he could very easily delegate a
29:40
lot of the things that he does on the day-to-day, especially in
29:43
terms of coaching the offensive line with a guy like George
29:46
Barnett. But no, he's right there
29:48
involved. I thought that was really
29:50
interesting. We got to look at a little bit
29:51
at roster construction with Tyler Barn and and even Wallace
29:56
talking about the line back and Group A little bit too.
29:59
Yeah, it was super interesting. I, I mean, I think everybody got
30:02
a little bit a little bit excited when the the trailer
30:06
came out for for us to see something like that, especially
30:09
in the offseason when we're just sitting on our hands for the
30:12
next few months waiting for fall camp to come around to get more
30:15
content. But yeah, Iowa's creative team
30:18
is just so good with everything and hard to expect anything less
30:22
with with something a little bit more long form like that.
30:25
Yeah, definitely does feel like they're ahead of the curve a
30:27
little bit as far as like releasing.
30:29
It felt to me like a Hard Knocks for college, which was really
30:32
neat. And I, I'd love to see Iowa
30:33
State do the same thing looking to this upcoming season.
30:37
I, I'm wondering what's going on in quarterback.
30:40
Is it going to be Heklinski and is he going to be able to throw
30:42
it around? I go back to the Iowa, Iowa
30:44
State game last year, 83 yards for Gronowski on 13 to 24.
30:47
And that wasn't that wasn't even the worst one.
30:50
And so I'm curious, is Iowa going to figure out the passing
30:53
game this upcoming year? Should I be scared?
30:58
Well, you know, I think you should be scared for a lot of
31:01
reasons covering Iowa State, but I wouldn't Iowa passing game at
31:07
the top of those concerns. But yeah, I mean, I, I, you
31:12
know, that's yeah, that's not really something that I think
31:15
people should be concerned about that are playing against Iowa at
31:18
this rate. Well proven otherwise.
31:20
I think Pecklinsky and Brown are figuring some things out as we
31:24
go here. Sorry, my dog digging in my
31:27
recline office. You guys can hear that taking
31:30
you off. Speaker Max Hey.
31:33
Max OK. I'm sure, I'm sure you've had
31:35
that happen before on live radio anyway.
31:39
Anyway, yeah, I wouldn't put that at the top of the the
31:43
concerns. If anything, I think I will will
31:45
be able to run, run the ball pretty consistently against Iowa
31:49
State, do a lot of the other things they traditionally do on
31:53
on the football field in terms of the defensive prowess, the
31:56
the power up front. But yeah, I mean, if if they're
32:00
they are going to take a step forward, I I would imagine
32:02
honestly, it would be the talent at receiver that does things
32:06
more so than Jeremy Hecklinski or Hank Brown, especially early
32:08
on in the season, considering what we got to see from Reese
32:11
Vandersby at the end of the year last year and then DJ Venami
32:16
ascending as well. That's tight end, obviously, but
32:18
but throw in Tony Diaz too, and that group is is about as
32:23
talented, at least between those three, as as Iowa's top options
32:27
through the era have been in in quite a while.
32:29
Elliot, when you look forward this, it felt like it became I
32:33
think almost all of us like Ted Kulinski coming into spring,
32:37
that race seems very tight. We know kind of what Kirk lights
32:40
at the quarterback position. How different, how much sway,
32:43
say and sway is it going to happen for Tim Lester and his
32:45
choice here? When do you anticipate though
32:48
they will name a starter? It's a long ways away, I get
32:51
that. But is this something that we're
32:52
going to know even a couple weeks before, you know, we get
32:55
to that first game of the year? It could be we're waiting for
32:58
the the press notes and the game notes to come out and see in the
33:00
depth chart and that's the direction.
33:01
What would you anticipate when we'll find out who that starter
33:04
is going to be? It'll either be the first depth
33:07
chart or we'll get a big OL or right there on the depth chart
33:10
and everybody's like, we're still waiting.
33:13
So we won't see until until that first series.
33:15
That's what I would imagine is either we get that first depth
33:19
chart and it's clear and we get a Kirk Ference telling us that
33:24
he's rolling with Hecklinski or Brown, or we might even get the
33:27
depth chart and say Hecklinski's at the top and we don't have the
33:31
OR and Kirk will say, yeah, they're still neck and neck.
33:33
We're not really sure who's going to run out there.
33:35
I that would not surprise me in the slightest.
33:37
So yeah, it's it's going to go down to the wire.
33:40
We're not going to know for for a few months here.
33:42
We're going to be sitting in limbo.
33:44
And believe me, we're going to be talking to people behind the
33:46
scenes. I mean, myself included with the
33:49
the guy, Sean and and Dave through, through spring, we were
33:53
really trying to see who has the edge, who has the the lead and
33:56
it's really tightened up. I mean, personally, and I've
33:59
said this a few times, I think heck, Kolinsky should be the
34:02
guy. I don't know about what what you
34:04
guys thought of or what you saw from from the open spring
34:07
practice in the film we got, but I I thought heck, Klinsky was a
34:10
lot better than people gave him credit for.
34:12
I thought his ball placement was really good.
34:14
I think he throws a really catchable ball.
34:16
Hank Brown had a few misses, but he also had a few incompletions
34:20
that were either off the hands of the receiver, there was play
34:23
or pass interference called or on a ball that should have been
34:26
caught, stuff like that. So yeah, man, I have a feeling
34:31
be fielding questions like this for for a few months.
34:33
It's it's going to go down to the wire.
34:35
If I have, you know, any, any guess right now if one of them
34:39
separates in in fall camp and it's clear by then, awesome.
34:43
But for right now, yeah, it feels like it's going to go down
34:46
right still still game week. So it's not game day.
34:49
Yeah, I I think they're with you.
34:50
I think we're going to see both quarterbacks in the first game
34:52
of the year against Northern Illinois.
34:56
Trent. Yes, Yeah, I'm going out there.
34:58
I think we're going to see both of them.
34:59
I think we're going to go back to that and well, Elliot, you
35:02
were not on the beat at the time, but when we've gone
35:04
through this, oh boy, it's it has not been fun, certainly for
35:07
Iowa fans and your message boards.
35:08
They'll be cooking over there at Hawkeye inside.
35:11
Give us a a couple after getting the opportunity to see the guys
35:15
on Saturday. It's one of 15 practices.
35:17
I get that. But whatever a couple of your
35:19
top of the fold items that came out of spring practice came out
35:22
of the open practice that are going to stick with you through
35:24
the spring and summer. The first thing that comes to
35:27
mind is is linebacker and how those guys line up.
35:31
Whether Buffington, it sounds like Buffington is going to play
35:33
the mic, Montgomery at the will, which is an interesting
35:36
combination. We're not usually used to seeing
35:38
smaller compact guys at linebacker period for Iowa, let
35:42
alone at that will spot where they prefer to have a guy who's
35:44
a little bit longer and athletic.
35:46
But so moving Montgomery over there there will be interesting
35:49
assuming that does happen and continues into the fall.
35:52
But that Leo linebacker spot is really interesting too because
35:56
is we initially thought that Van Key Crick's would be in the fold
36:01
for the will position, but it sounded more like he and Wyckoff
36:07
have really had a solid competition at the Leo, that
36:11
third linebacker spot that Iowa goes to in their more
36:15
traditional base defense with the four three.
36:17
So those two are competing. All the while Preston Reese has
36:20
been on the sideline with an injury.
36:22
So he hasn't been competing and he's a guy that a lot of people
36:25
loved after what he's done on special teams.
36:27
So that that Leo spot, though, it's not a guy that's on the
36:31
field constantly. It it is one that's obviously
36:34
really important, especially in the red zone.
36:36
So to see who who comes out and ends up with the ones would be
36:39
interesting, especially factoring in the use of Weiskopf
36:43
and Reese as guys who are entering their third year,
36:45
whereas Dan Key cricks is entering his fifth year.
36:47
So we'll be 1 to to track there who plays free safety and cash.
36:53
If it's if it's a Lutmer at cash or if he's sticking at free
36:57
safety like he played during the spring game with Jacob Wallace
37:01
at at cash would be really, really interesting as a red
37:05
shirt freshman, but getting put into such an important position
37:09
or if Anthony Hawkins does start to rise up, rise up and and
37:13
plays that free safety spot with Lutmar at cash.
37:16
That's that's what I expected. And then we got to the open
37:18
spring game and and they're there.
37:20
It is. They're they're playing
37:21
different positions, center and right guard Kate Peeper.
37:25
Where is he going to be playing? He's arguably your best
37:27
offensive lineman to me. I still give that to Trevor Lau,
37:30
but is he going to be playing center?
37:33
Is he going to be playing right guard before Miss Linsky was
37:35
sidelined? This is one thing I pointed out
37:37
in the the all Access is that before Miss Linsky was sidelined
37:41
in the spring, he was playing center with with peeper at right
37:44
guard, at least in in one of the the clips that we saw.
37:47
So those those would be the main things that stick out to me.
37:50
How well does Tony Diaz play when when we get to see him?
37:54
That'll be really interesting. And then of course, quarterback.
37:57
But to me, I mean, you look at like like strong safety.
38:01
I think Tyler Brown has that locked up.
38:03
The Sean Lee is cornerback one who plays cornerback 2 between
38:06
Jalen Ross Watson and Rashad Godfrey.
38:09
Does Jacob Wallace if if Lutmer subsumes the cash position is
38:13
Wallace competing for for time and corner?
38:15
Like is he one of those guys? So a lot of things to follow yet
38:19
that isn't just quarterback. This team is going to have a lot
38:22
of new faces on the field after losing a ton of guys that that
38:25
were staples in the lineup between like a Carson Shire,
38:29
Logan Jones, Jenny Dunker, both Steven.
38:31
I mean, you just go down the line, you lose Cohen, Enteringer
38:33
and Zager, Wampa, TJ Hall. Like it's going to be a lot of
38:37
new faces that are that are going to be seen.
38:40
Defensive tackle, I think is going to be the biggest question
38:42
coming into the year. If there was ever a year and a
38:46
time that you wish the spring portal was back, certainly be
38:48
that one. Because we didn't get a glimpse
38:50
of a lot of the new guys either the the transfers that they
38:53
brought in. And, and maybe that's a part of
38:54
it. But Rice, Hawthorne, he's got to
38:56
take a leap and he's got to become a stud because I don't
38:59
know how much help he's going to get inside.
39:02
Yeah, yeah, he will. I think he said something about
39:05
an MCL that kept him out for the spring.
39:07
That's obviously not ideal, but he is your top DT and I I think
39:12
it's Bryce Hawthorne, big gap and then everybody else.
39:15
But it sounds like it could be Devin Kennedy that that subsumes
39:20
that that second DT role. He's a guy that's long, has some
39:23
NFL pedigree, obviously with his dad Jimmy.
39:25
I think it's Jimmy being a first round NFL pick from from Penn
39:30
State back in the day, a guy with with some of that pedigree
39:33
to him. Brad Pitt's given a kid from the
39:36
Chicago area Catholic League. That league is always loaded
39:40
that a Marist super violent. He's a guy that doesn't
39:43
necessarily rack up a ton of attack or a ton of stats, but I
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like to call it the effing the play up that he's pretty good at
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that. And then you go down to some of
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the transfers like a Bryce Stevenson and Emmanuel Ola Baju.
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Ola Baju had a source describe him to me as as like the Hulk.
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He's a big boy. So and high school teammates
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with Bryce Hawthorne. So maybe they have some of that
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chemistry from from back in the day.
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Maybe they end up playing together a little bit.
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So yeah, I that's one I should have mentioned defensive line,
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defensive and the whole defensive line really.
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I mean, you bring back Hawthorne and Kenneth Merriweather who
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weren't starters. But they'll be they'll keep the
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key on the defensive line this year is Yosefa Nezza.
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Does he end up being a starter? I mean, I was thinking about
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this this morning. I don't think people realize how
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big of a loss Brian Allen is now with the portal.
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I mean, dude was a physical freak, really explosive.
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We got to see that in bits and pieces.
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But I think he wanted to go somewhere where he could really
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tee off on the quarterback. And that's just not what what
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Iowa does with their two gap system.
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So, yeah, big loss, especially a guy that that knew what was
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happening, knew what was going on.
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And I mean, no, no shade to to the transfers, but that that's
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tough to replace the guy who's been in the program for so long.
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Kamari Brown will be 1 to watch that that fills in that
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defensive end spot. Super violent guy out of Elon
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too. So violent, quick, tough.
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So he'll be, he'll be one to keep an eye on as well, yeah.
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Hopefully Alec Baju can, he looks like Hulk and hopefully he
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doesn't play like Bruce Banner on that front.
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Out of time for today, Elliott. Always good catching up with
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you. We'll talk to you again soon
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down the road, All right? Sounds good.
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Thanks guys. Hawkeyeinsider.com.
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Elliott Clough joining us here on Miller and Condon on the Iowa
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Sports Radio Network. Quick timeout back on the other
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side, Put a cap on our number one.
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Stay right there. It's Miller and Condon on the
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Condon on the Iowa Sports Radio Network, Trent Condon here, Nick
41:49
Marvitz across from me as we get into a little bit of everything.
41:54
Some breaking news here just a little bit ago, Joel.
41:56
Joel Embiid will be out for the Sixers tonight.
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And we talked about Anthony Edwards, him being questionable.
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So injuries as always that we go through this whole year, the
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tanking situation in the NBA, Nick, everything that's gone
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along with that. And, and the frustration, if
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you're, even though a casual NBA watcher, how difficult the
42:14
regular season is and all these guys sitting out all the time,
42:18
it just continues in the playoffs.
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What is it about the sport? What is it about the NBA?
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Is it is it the sheer volume of games?
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Is it the 82? Is it the strain of the body
42:26
that they're putting on there? Because year after year after
42:29
year, it's not just a regular season thing.
42:32
Injuries impact the playoffs seemingly every single year.
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Yeah, maybe it's the hardwood. I, I, I mean, I don't know.
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Is it because, like, do they need to resort to playing on
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glass like Iowa State did? I cannot believe how many games
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they miss. And I'm not saying that they're
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not getting hurt. It's just that it feels
42:49
different. Maybe there's always the
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argument to like from my exercise science background that
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humans are developing such a way to get strong at a rate where
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their ligaments can't actually keep up.
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And so that's like, you know, back in the 80s and the 90s, we
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just didn't know how to get that strong and fast.
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And it just wasn't really something that the body had to
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handle. Now all of those ligaments
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you're, you're coming in at let's say 18 miles an hour,
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cutting hard and looking the other way.
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All of those knee ligaments have to like the energy has to go
43:18
somewhere. Those those aren't strung up.
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I'm not saying that's the reason, but I it's puzzling.
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It really is. No Embid, likely no Anthony
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Edwards tonight. Well, that's my own, I guess
43:29
usage there. The word likely.
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We'll see on that front. He is listed as questionable,
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but they got game one and that goes a long, long ways on that
43:36
one. A quick question here before we
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run out of time. This is normally noon to two.
43:41
This is old guy radio. It's 2 old guys.
43:43
You're not an old guy. How do you consume sports?
43:46
Because Ken and I were both DIRECTV guys and then we
43:48
complained about having to use the input button and jumping
43:50
over and going over to Peacock as I mentioned with the the
43:53
tables gave the other night. Are you a streamer?
43:57
How do you consume your sports? I'm a YouTube TV guy when it's
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possible because they've got like the quad box, you know, and
44:03
so that's really nice where I don't necessarily have to jump
44:06
between games. And the really cool thing with
44:07
that is I can have four games up, one that I'm focused on,
44:11
click on the one I want to watch big screen when it goes to
44:13
commercial back out, keep tabs on the other one.
44:16
That's my preferred way, which is why yesterday when you
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brought up like, oh, Peacock, it's exclusive on there.
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I'm like, great, now I got a back out of my YouTube TV.
44:23
Go into there, check on it or watch it on my phone.
44:26
It's just it adds a whole another level of as the first
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world problem, but I don't love it.
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So yeah, YouTube TV so far has been my favorite.
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Yes, and DIRECTV, I said for years, I'm gonna change, I'm
44:39
gonna change, and then you get another deal and I'll, Right,
44:40
we'll stick around for another six months, another year and
44:43
those kind of things. But of all these streamers, boy,
44:46
people talk about YouTube TV and obviously the DIRECTV or the
44:49
connection now to Sunday Ticket. Yeah, might be time for a switch
44:52
after decades of DIRECTV. Wow, that would be big for you.
44:56
Absolutely. Big change coming up next.
44:59
We got David Kaplan stopping by. We'll talk Chicago sports with
45:01
him. A look at the Bears, the Cubs,
45:04
the White Sox, the Bulls all coming up next.
45:06
Miller and kind of continue news on the Iowa Sports Radio
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Network.