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Episode #3970 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive June 2005 · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It's Phil Hendry with another Radio Archive Hour from the
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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Phil Hendry Show at philhendryshow.com. And this
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Speaker 2: is an hour of radio from our show in June
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Speaker 2: of 2005 with a character named Clara Bingham. She was
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Speaker 2: a middle school teacher at Joyful Union Congregation. She was
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Speaker 2: related to Pastor William Rennick. There was a whole lot
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Speaker 2: of fun stuff happening there. But Clara would play cow
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Speaker 2: sound effects and laugh tracks and other insulting noises when
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Speaker 2: overweight kids came on campus and in order to get
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Speaker 2: them to cry to their parents about it and that
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Speaker 2: maybe their parents wouldn't be feeding them flapjacks. As Clara says,
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Speaker 2: with every plate of flapjacks, they're saying, I hate you.
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Speaker 3: I don't know, man.
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Speaker 2: So here's Clara anyway, and she's got cow sound effects.
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Speaker 2: She's got the sound of a tractor. All of this
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Speaker 2: is supposed to, you know, mock the kids. I think
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Speaker 2: that sucks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was funny.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: Here's Clara. Funny.
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Speaker 4: We're going to talk about childhood obesity with middle school kids.
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Speaker 1: Counselor, advisor, and teacher, Clara Bingham.
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Speaker 4: And the idea is to discuss this from the standpoint
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Speaker 4: of what parents and teachers can do together.
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Speaker 3: Ms.
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Speaker 4: Bingham, thanks for joining us on our program here at
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Speaker 4: this kind of late notice. We saw the story here
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Speaker 4: on ABC about more sleep, less TV, fends off child obesity.
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Speaker 1: Did you see that? Are you there, ma'am?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm right here.
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Speaker 1: All right. Did you hear me?
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Phil. I did not.
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Speaker 5: No.
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Speaker 4: All right, my question was this study from ABC, more sleep,
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Speaker 4: less TV, fends off child obesity?
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Speaker 3: We feel that there is a great many, are a
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Speaker 3: great many reasons for a child being overweight. We do
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Speaker 3: recognize that those feel and should be recognized as a
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Speaker 3: health risk to the child. And the message is not
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Speaker 3: getting through. We've tried, but the primary reason for childhood
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Speaker 3: obesity is the parental... uh... influence and that is in
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Speaker 3: terms of nutrition the parents are not getting the message
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Speaker 3: obesity in children is at an all-time epidemic proportionate affects
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Speaker 3: their health it affects their self-esteem uh... and parents who
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Speaker 3: send an overweight child to school who allow that child
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Speaker 3: to go into a school uh.
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Speaker 3: You know with all of that fat and so forth
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Speaker 3: are letting their children in for it and That really
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Speaker 3: is where we start. Television, I think, is a contributing factor.
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Speaker 3: I also think that nutrition at the school can be
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Speaker 3: a contributing factor if the school is not mindful of
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Speaker 3: the nutritional content of food they're serving the children, but parents.
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Speaker 4: All right, but Kevin Hauser is a 12-year-old 7th grade
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Speaker 4: student at Joyful Union Middle School where you teach. His
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Speaker 4: mother appealed to the school... about some ill-treatment of her son. Now,
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Speaker 4: this is what we're talking about when we say self-esteem, right?
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Speaker 3: Phil, that is correct. Kevin is a good example. He's overweight.
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Speaker 3: He's a boy who stands around 5 foot 7 inches tall.
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Speaker 3: His weight exceeds 200 pounds. I saw him, and just
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Speaker 3: to give you an example of what I'm talking about,
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Speaker 3: I saw Kevin coming on campus. I saw him, I
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Speaker 3: was in the teacher's lounge grading some papers, and I
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Speaker 3: saw Kevin walking onto the school. His mother had dropped
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Speaker 3: him off. And I remember I instinctively sort of said
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Speaker 3: to myself, man, boy, is he asking for it. So
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Speaker 3: I finished the last of the papers that I was grading,
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Speaker 3: and I went out to where the children were putting
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Speaker 3: books into their lockers.
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Speaker 1: Now, did you say something to him?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I did. What we will do is deal with
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Speaker 3: a child from two levels, nutrition and image. And I
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Speaker 3: walked over to a tree. that was standing in a
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Speaker 3: grass area near the lockers so that he could not
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Speaker 3: see me. And I said as loudly as I could,
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Speaker 3: but not to attract attention to myself, I believe I said, hey,
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Speaker 3: glow boy or bacon boy or something like that.
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Speaker 1: But that hurt the boy's feelings, okay?
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Speaker 3: Now, let me tell you, though, Phil, as a teacher,
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Speaker 3: what this does. Yes, it does, but it gets the
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Speaker 3: parents to act. Now, Kevin doesn't know. Who said this
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Speaker 3: to him? He thought... One of the students said it.
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Speaker 3: He complained. His mother called the school.
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Speaker 1: Did you speak to her?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I did. And I told her, I said I
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Speaker 3: was glad to talk with her because it gave me
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Speaker 3: the opportunity to let her know that this is a problem,
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Speaker 3: not just for Kevin at the school, but also at home.
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Speaker 3: And the facts are these. I said to Rose Hunter,
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Speaker 3: who's Kevin's mother, I said, when you send an obese
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Speaker 3: child to school, you are guilty of cruelty to that
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Speaker 3: child because you are sending your child... You send the
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Speaker 3: child off looking like that, and she knows that the
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Speaker 3: minute he sets foot on campus, man, he's going to
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Speaker 3: get it, you know.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're saying he's going to get it? You mean
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Speaker 1: the ridicule?
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Speaker 3: Well, but again, the parent that sends an obese child
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Speaker 3: to school is begging for it. And I wonder if
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Speaker 3: they know that on behalf of their child, they are
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Speaker 3: begging for the abuse. And I think if more parents
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Speaker 3: knew that, and that's where I think we have missed
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Speaker 3: the boat, and that's where I think we can also
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Speaker 3: begin to make up for lost time.
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Speaker 4: All right, Clara Bingham joins us on childhood obesity in
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Speaker 4: the schools. Our number is 1-800-449-8686, 1-800-449-8686. You're saying verbally
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Speaker 4: abusing a child somehow is going to help him lose weight.
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Speaker 3: No, I'm saying it's going to get through to the parents.
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Speaker 3: Right now, I have spoken to.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're going to.
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Speaker 4: Have the child go home and say, I got ridiculed
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Speaker 4: at school for being fat.
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Speaker 3: And that immediately puts it back on a parent who
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Speaker 3: has so little concern for their child, feeding them the food.
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Speaker 3: The reason why we have fat children, Phil, basically, are
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Speaker 3: the parents. It's not television. It's not anything other than parent.
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Speaker 3: It's not... one of the things I love to hear
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Speaker 3: from these parents, and Kevin's mother said this too, she
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Speaker 3: said he has a gland problem. It's a glandular. And
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Speaker 3: I said to her, I really, I said to her,
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Speaker 3: do you think I was born yesterday? Do you think
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Speaker 3: I just was literally birthed out yesterday and came to
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Speaker 3: school soaking wet in amnio fluid? I am a grown woman.
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Speaker 3: And when you say to me, when you look me
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Speaker 3: in the face and you say, my child, looks for
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Speaker 3: all the world like some bacon child, and you say
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Speaker 3: that it's because you've got a gland problem, you're basically
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Speaker 3: looking me in the face and calling me a stupid you-know-what.
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Speaker 3: I don't like that. I don't know a lot of
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Speaker 3: teachers that do. You send a child out to school
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Speaker 3: knowing full well that child is three-quarters butterfat, and he's
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Speaker 3: begging for it.
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Speaker 1: All right, so you're laying it directly into the parent's lap.
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Speaker 1: There is no absolute.
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Speaker 3: Well, so yes, for the most part. I don't think.
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Speaker 1: There's no contributing factor. There's no... This thing about television.
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Speaker 3: Well, the reason why the child is watching television is
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Speaker 3: because the parents are allowing it. The reason why the
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Speaker 3: child is laying around all day long are the parents
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Speaker 3: are allowing it. And I'm sure most parents think that
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Speaker 3: their child is happier when he's eating. They should be
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Speaker 3: on campus when these words are said.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're the one that called him globe boy.
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Speaker 4: You stood behind a tree so he couldn't see you.
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Speaker 3: But he thought the students did it.
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Speaker 1: All right, but why not just... I mean, why be.
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Speaker 3: A lot of times, Phil, the students are filled with
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Speaker 3: so many mixed messages. A lot of times... And this
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Speaker 3: is difficult for you to understand, perhaps, but... I don't
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Speaker 3: know if you know about priming a carburetor. You know,
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Speaker 3: you put a little bit of gasoline and you need
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Speaker 3: to prime the carburetor. In much the same way, we
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Speaker 3: need to prime the students... And when I said blow, boy,
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Speaker 3: when I said here come bacon, boy, and this kind
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Speaker 3: of thing, it primed the carburetor, got the other students going.
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Speaker 4: Okay, but what you're doing is you're encouraging the other
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Speaker 4: kids to abuse this child.
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Speaker 3: I am encouraging the other children to see before them
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Speaker 3: a child whose parents have so little love for him
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Speaker 3: that they send him off three-quarter butterfat. Like a bucket
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Speaker 3: of buttermilk. And for me, that is a very sad thing.
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Speaker 4: All right, but if the parents don't love the kid
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Speaker 4: and they feed him too much and he is fat
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Speaker 4: and they send him to school knowing that he could
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Speaker 4: very well be ridiculed for this, why do you need
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Speaker 4: to instigate it?
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Speaker 3: As I said, Phil, we need to get it going
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Speaker 3: because the sooner the child goes home crying about being abused,
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Speaker 3: the quicker the parent will confront this issue with the
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Speaker 3: school and the sooner I can sit down in a
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Speaker 3: classroom at a parent-teacher conference and say to that parent, Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 5: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: See, this is what happens. When you feed your child
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Speaker 3: all of that slop that you pull out of that refrigerator.
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Speaker 1: I can't believe you talk to the parents directly like this.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I do, Phil. Really, it's part of our parent-teacher-coordinated
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Speaker 3: seminars that we have every summer. It's part of the
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Speaker 3: parent-teacher retreats that we have.
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Speaker 4: I mean, you're looking at these parents and you're saying
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Speaker 4: you're feeding your kids slop.
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Speaker 3: I'm saying take a look at that. Boy, I said
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Speaker 3: to Rose Houser, I said, look at your son. And
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Speaker 3: I said, look at Twinkie Boy. I called him Twinkie Boy.
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Speaker 3: I said, look at the size of that. And she
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Speaker 3: shook my hand and realized that it had all been
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Speaker 3: a big misunderstanding.
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Speaker 1: So you were able to come to a meeting with
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Speaker 1: this mother?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, yes. What I do is I straighten out these parents.
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Speaker 3: I straighten them out by saying to them, you're the
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Speaker 3: one that made this child fat and begging for a
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Speaker 3: You're the one that made that child look like Grimm
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Speaker 3: from McDonald's. You know, you. And they walk out of
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Speaker 3: there very, very ashamed. If I can confront more parents,
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Speaker 3: I think we can get the message out.
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Speaker 4: This is a teacher that will call a kid globe boy.
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Speaker 4: bacon boy fat boy so that he thinks a student
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Speaker 4: said it and then she she knows he's going to
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Speaker 4: go home and complain to the parents and the parent
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Speaker 4: comes in and then she says quote she can confront
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Speaker 4: the parent straight on for feeding the child the way
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Speaker 4: they do and basically letting that child go off the
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Speaker 4: school fat and ready for abuse do parents who send
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Speaker 4: an overweight child off to school do it knowing that
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Speaker 4: their child is going to be abused are they culpable
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Speaker 4: in that abuse is a child cruelty That's what we're
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Speaker 4: talking with Clara Bingham, a middle school teacher from Joyful
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Speaker 4: Union Congregation, about this hour, 1-800-449-8686, The Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 4: Why my guest, Clara Bingham, a middle school teacher, calls
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Speaker 4: it child abuse is because parents that have overweight children
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Speaker 4: are feeding them, knowing that the children are very liable
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Speaker 4: going to be taking a great deal of abuse, a
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Speaker 4: great deal of peer abuse.
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Speaker 1: And so on and so forth. But you contribute to it.
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Speaker 1: You have.
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Speaker 3: I do not contribute to anything. I am trying to
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Speaker 3: bring home to the parent.
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Speaker 4: No, but you're there, you know, you walked up to
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Speaker 4: this little Hauser boy and called him Bacon Boy or
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Speaker 4: something like that.
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Speaker 3: Because I wanted to get that mother in and talk
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Speaker 3: to her directly.
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Speaker 4: Why not call her up and say, I'd like to
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Speaker 4: talk to you about Kevin's weight?
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Speaker 3: They get very defensive. When you call parents up and
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Speaker 3: you say, you know, you've got a child here at
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Speaker 3: our school who is very fat and is very tough
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Speaker 3: for a lot of people to look at, they get
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Speaker 3: very defensive. And they say it's none of your business
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Speaker 3: and this and that. And I can say that the
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Speaker 3: child is being verbally abused, but when the child goes
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Speaker 3: home and says, I just got called glow boy or
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Speaker 3: fat boy or bacon child or chili child, then that
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Speaker 3: has an effect that the parent readily sees and is
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Speaker 3: going to reach out and contact us.
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Speaker 1: I imagine this is a place that hits close to
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Speaker 1: home for a lot of parents.
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Speaker 3: I don't think there are many parents very proud of it, Phil.
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Speaker 3: I'd be surprised if you have very many parents who
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Speaker 3: are going to admit their children are obese because they know.
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Speaker 1: You think they know that they're kind of abusing their child?
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Speaker 3: I think on a level they do, yes. That's why
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Speaker 3: we have to provoke action from them. All right, 1-800-449-8686.
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Speaker 1: Karen, go ahead.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I think she needs to retire, go to the house.
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Speaker 7: She is not there for weight control.
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Speaker 5: We're there to teach the child.
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Speaker 3: I'm there to keep that child in a position to learn.
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Speaker 3: And when he's getting abused by other children because you
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Speaker 3: sit in their hat.
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Speaker 7: Then it's your job. to help build the self-esteem.
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Speaker 3: No, it's not my job. You need to be fired.
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Speaker 3: You're the parent.
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Speaker 7: I think the parent needs to do you.
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Speaker 3: No, I think you should have your child taken from you.
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Speaker 3: Your child should be taken from you if you have
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Speaker 3: an overweight child and you blame someone else for it.
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Speaker 3: You're the one feeding that child.
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Speaker 7: Your job is not to maintain the weight of children
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Speaker 7: in school.
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Speaker 3: No, yours is. Your job.
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Speaker 7: How many years have you taught?
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Speaker 3: Well, how many years have you been a parent? Let's
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Speaker 3: ask that.
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Speaker 7: My 24 years. How many years have you been a parent?
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Speaker 3: Because you've got a big, fat kid now out there
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Speaker 3: lumbering through the world. It's everybody else's problem. Is that it?
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Speaker 3: It's everyone else's problem. I don't know.
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Speaker 7: That's not your job.
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Speaker 3: You've got a big, fat blob of a kid lumbering
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Speaker 3: and waddling through the world, and that's someone else's problem,
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Speaker 3: isn't it?
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Speaker 7: My children are not overweight, and neither am I.
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Speaker 8: But when they were.
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Speaker 7: It is not your job as a teacher.
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Speaker 3: I know my job. You don't know your job as
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Speaker 3: a mother.
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Speaker 7: You should leave your job. In fact, in the state
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Speaker 7: of Texas, you will not be able to keep your job.
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Speaker 3: Ma'am, I doubt very seriously if you know the laws
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Speaker 3: of the state of Texas. I really do.
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Speaker 7: Oh, I bet I do.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you do. I really don't.
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Speaker 7: You should be fired from your job of teaching.
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Speaker 3: And the word, honey, the word is fired, not farred.
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Speaker 7: I said fired.
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Speaker 3: No, you said farred.
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Speaker 7: I said farred.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, right there.
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Speaker 1: She has a Texas accent. She has a Texas accent.
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Speaker 3: All right, but the word is fired, not farred. And
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Speaker 3: this is what I'm talking about. I'm trying to teach
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Speaker 3: children so they don't come out of Texas sounding for
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Speaker 3: all the world like mountain trash. And the other thing
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Speaker 3: that's important.
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Speaker 7: Well, there's no need to insult people.
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Speaker 1: There's no need to insult people.
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Speaker 3: Well, I'm simply saying that when a parent sends a
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Speaker 3: child out of the world fat, that parent is guilty.
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Speaker 1: Well, would you hold on for a minute, both of
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Speaker 1: you ladies, and not talk over each other?
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Speaker 3: Well, Phil, I'm the educated one. This is the woman
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Speaker 3: calling in with the fat kid.
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Speaker 7: What kind of education do you have?
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Speaker 3: What kind of education do you have to tell me
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Speaker 3: what my job is?
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Speaker 7: I'm a teacher.
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Speaker 3: I have a teaching credential, and I see kids waddling
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Speaker 3: through the school all the time.
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Speaker 7: I see a lot of children that are obese, but
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Speaker 7: it's still not our job.
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Speaker 3: All you've got to do is open their bedroom door.
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Speaker 7: To stand behind a tree and call them bacon boy
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Speaker 7: or whatever else.
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Speaker 9: What choice do I have?
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Speaker 3: What choice do I have when you send them onto
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Speaker 3: the campus looking like that?
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Speaker 7: I don't send mine onto the campus and never have.
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Speaker 7: But my job is to target those children who are
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Speaker 7: verbally abused and educate the rest of the children who
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Speaker 7: are not obese that they are okay just like they are.
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Speaker 3: Are you a teacher?
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Speaker 7: Yes, ma'am, of 19 years.
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Speaker 5: Are you?
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Speaker 3: Yes, I am. Of how many years? I do my job.
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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing.
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Speaker 9: How many years?
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Speaker 3: I've been sitting in the lounge and having another palm out.
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Speaker 7: How many years?
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Speaker 3: I'm not answering your questions, girl.
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Speaker 7: Must not be hearing any.
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Speaker 3: I'm the guest. You're a caller who called in to
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Speaker 3: talk to me, wasting your money on the phone call.
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Speaker 3: But I'll tell you this much. I see some fat
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Speaker 3: tub of guts waddling onto my campus. Man, he's asking
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Speaker 3: for it.
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Speaker 1: Well, you're saying he's asking for it.
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Speaker 3: This lady laughs because it's a nervous laugh. No, it
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Speaker 3: is not a nervous laugh. Oh, no, it's not a
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Speaker 3: nervous laugh. It's not a nervous laugh.
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Speaker 5: You're not teaching in Texas.
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Speaker 7: I can tell that.
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Speaker 3: You're a very nervous woman.
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Speaker 5: You cannot teach.
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Speaker 3: I think you need nerve tonic.
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Speaker 1: Will you come on with this?
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Speaker 3: How many chins does your kid have? Seriously. How many
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Speaker 3: chins does your child have?
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Speaker 7: How many chins?
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Speaker 3: Mine's... Are you thinking about it? My child is 5'9
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Speaker 3: and weighs 125 pounds.
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Speaker 7: My other child is 6'2 and weighs 165.
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Speaker 3: My guess is they're the one that's obese.
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Speaker 7: Now, between the.
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Speaker 3: Two of them, how many pounds of fat did they lose?
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Speaker 7: My two children, I have never had a pound of fat.
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Speaker 7: But this is not about that.
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Speaker 9: 400 pounds.
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Speaker 7: Your job is you're a teacher.
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Speaker 8: I am a teacher.
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Speaker 3: You're supposed to be a teacher. And I'm a teacher
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Speaker 3: in the state of California, not out there at Mountain
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Speaker 3: Trash Town.
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Speaker 7: All right, okay.
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Speaker 1: Look it, look it. You know what?
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Speaker 9: Mr.
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Speaker 3: Henry, don't cut me.
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Speaker 1: You lunatics. You know, the whole thing is.
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Speaker 3: Phil, she said that her kid wheezes.
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Speaker 1: She did not say her kid wheezes.
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Speaker 3: I heard her say that when that child was growing up,
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Speaker 3: the kid would wheeze after coming up some steps.
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Speaker 1: Here is Kyle. Go ahead, Kyle.
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Speaker 8: Hey, I was just wanting to comment on this.
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Speaker 3: He's a wheezer.
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Speaker 8: You know, this woman has a good point in that
17:36
Speaker 8: parents should take responsibility for their kid's weight and health,
17:39
Speaker 8: but her method of going about it is totally idiotic.
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Speaker 3: Well, then you agree with me.
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Speaker 8: No, I agree with your point. I don't agree with your.
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Speaker 3: Actions, though. But the point is the parents are to blame.
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Speaker 8: Well, of course the parents are to blame.
17:52
Speaker 3: Well, that last lady I talked to claims she's a teacher.
17:55
Speaker 3: She had two children that she had to cut 400
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Speaker 3: pounds of fat off of. That's not my point, though.
18:02
Speaker 3: My point is that you belittling them, you're lowering yourself
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Speaker 3: to the level of like a 10-year-old. And you're causing
18:09
Speaker 3: more harm than good. And you also said earlier, why
18:12
Speaker 3: don't you just call the parent and talk to them?
18:15
Speaker 3: You said, well, they're too defensive about that. Yes, they do.
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Speaker 3: They get very defensive about it.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm guessing they're going to be pretty defensive about
18:20
Speaker 8: you calling them a butterball, too.
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Speaker 3: They didn't know that I called it. See, what I
18:24
Speaker 3: do is.
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Speaker 1: Well, you'll hide behind a tree?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 8: I mean, how mature is that? You're a teacher. You're
18:30
Speaker 8: hiding behind a tree calling a 10-year-old kid a butterball?
18:34
Speaker 8: What is wrong with you that you're doing that?
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Speaker 3: No, hold on for a minute. The point is... that
18:38
Speaker 3: the child then goes home to his parent, says that
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Speaker 3: he got ridiculed, the parent calls for me to intercede,
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Speaker 3: and that's what I can say. And you won't think
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Speaker 3: that I'm part of the problem.
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Speaker 8: You can guarantee that every time a child is going
18:53
Speaker 8: to go home and talk to his parent about it,
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Speaker 8: or maybe sometimes they'll keep it inside and it'll fester.
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Speaker 8: You're creating emotional.
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Speaker 3: Problems in these kids rather.
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Speaker 8: Than trying to come up with a solution.
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Speaker 3: No, but we know if they've kept it inside within
19:07
Speaker 3: a week, because generally if they keep something like that inside,
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Speaker 3: they do start, you know, they'll start hitting the Twinkies
19:13
Speaker 3: and that kind of thing, and they start to balloon out.
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Speaker 3: And I can tell you within a week of a
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Speaker 3: kid being called low boy or three-quarter butterfat or something
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Speaker 3: like that, if he begins to balloon out, we know
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Speaker 3: he's internalized it. And then we will intercede.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but look at the time you've wasted.
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Speaker 8: And you're also telling me the kid is so obese.
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Speaker 8: You're going to honestly tell me that an obese kid,
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Speaker 8: you're going to notice that big a difference in a
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Speaker 8: week's period of time?
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Speaker 3: Oh, these children, sir, it is tragic. He is with
19:42
Speaker 3: Fox Studios.
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Speaker 4: All right, but his father has access to sound effects
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Speaker 4: or something that you've used, right?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know what the purpose of your comment is.
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Speaker 3: I'm trying.
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Speaker 4: Have you used some kind of a sound effects tape
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Speaker 4: or record to ridicule the children?
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Speaker 1: I'm just curious.
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Speaker 3: You know something? I find this to be off the point.
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Speaker 3: We are talking about parents that have neglected their children
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Speaker 3: to the point that they come on our campus... Coated
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Speaker 3: in fat. And they take abuse from the children, and
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Speaker 3: the parents don't seem to care. They want to blame
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Speaker 3: us for it.
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Speaker 4: All right, but I mean, when Kevin Hauser or other
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Speaker 4: children that are overweight, Kevin reported his mother heard a
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Speaker 4: laugh track?
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Speaker 3: We have, and I think I gave it to a
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Speaker 3: MPH radio engineer.
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Speaker 1: Do you have that, Mark? All right. So when he
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Speaker 1: walks on campus, this is what he hears. Is that right?
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know if that's the tape or not,
20:37
Speaker 3: but we have played... from the administration office and from
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Speaker 3: the detention office, we have all kinds of announcements that
20:43
Speaker 3: happen in the morning. We are constantly telling the children
20:46
Speaker 3: what day it is, which day, you know, which color
20:49
Speaker 3: sweater they're wearing on this day, whether it's a hot
20:53
Speaker 3: lunch day or not, whether it's a day where we're
20:55
Speaker 3: going to be doing our cave sales, which is where
20:58
Speaker 3: we sell our books. And, yes, when we see a
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Speaker 3: child where desperate intercession is needed, I can either go
21:07
Speaker 3: up behind a tree and say, here comes Glow Boy.
21:12
Speaker 3: In fact, we've got, here comes Glow Boy, look around.
21:14
Speaker 3: Here comes Glow Boy, and he's round, you know. And
21:19
Speaker 3: then Martha Keller, who works in our office, I'll cue her.
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Speaker 1: I've got to tell you, that's got to hurt like
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Speaker 1: hell for a little boy to hear that.
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Speaker 3: Phil, I'll tell you what hurts. What hurts is for
21:33
Speaker 3: that little boy to know every time his mother... sticks
21:37
Speaker 3: a stack of pancakes in front of him, she's saying, here,
21:40
Speaker 3: good morning, I hate you. I hate you because I'm
21:44
Speaker 3: going to feed you these pancakes, dripping in melted butter
21:51
Speaker 3: with maple syrup straight out of the tree, and then
21:57
Speaker 3: I'm going to send you off to school so the
21:59
Speaker 3: children can laugh at you. I think that hurts a
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Speaker 3: lot more.
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Speaker 4: I don't think any mother says she's hating her child
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Speaker 4: when she gives the child flapjacks.
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Speaker 3: Phil, maybe she's not intending to say that, but really
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Speaker 3: that's the word. That's what she's saying. Every time she
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Speaker 3: puts a plate of food in front of that child,
22:15
Speaker 3: she says, hello, how are you? I hate you. And
22:21
Speaker 3: she might as well just throw this in. And you
22:27
Speaker 3: know something, Phil, I don't appreciate what that little.
22:29
Speaker 4: Well, that Rose Hunter said that, did you say to
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Speaker 4: her you're going to have to butter the doors in
22:32
Speaker 4: your house?
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Speaker 3: I don't recall.
22:35
Speaker 4: You said to that woman, if the boy gets any bigger,
22:37
Speaker 4: you're going to have to butter the doors in your house.
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Speaker 3: I might have said something like that, yes. I'm trying
22:43
Speaker 3: to wake these parents up.
22:46
Speaker 1: All right, 1-800-449-8686. Raquel, go ahead.
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Speaker 5: Hi, I would just like to tell your guest on
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Speaker 5: the show that as a child growing up, I was overweight.
22:57
Speaker 5: And when people made fun of me, I never turned
22:59
Speaker 5: to my mother and let her know what was going on.
23:02
Speaker 5: I turned to food for more comfort instead. So what
23:04
Speaker 5: you're doing, it's not working. That's going to make the
23:07
Speaker 5: poor child want to eat more.
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Speaker 3: It is working because what we're doing now is we're
23:10
Speaker 3: monitoring that child for a week. And if the child,
23:14
Speaker 3: I'm sure in your case, when you got insulted and
23:17
Speaker 3: you kept it inside, you started to blimp out a
23:21
Speaker 3: little bit within, say, 7 to 10 days.
23:25
Speaker 5: Not blimp out. I mean, I just ate like I
23:27
Speaker 5: always did. I would ask for more food. I would
23:29
Speaker 5: ask for more sweets. My parents indulged me. They never
23:32
Speaker 5: thought a problem was going on. They just thought I
23:34
Speaker 5: had a big appetite.
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Speaker 3: And they just thought that it was natural for a
23:38
Speaker 3: girl to be 800 pounds?
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Speaker 5: I wasn't 800 pounds.
23:41
Speaker 3: That's ridiculous. Well, how much did you weigh? Did your
23:44
Speaker 3: parents pay attention to your weight? They did.
23:46
Speaker 5: My mom even took me to the doctors to find
23:48
Speaker 5: out maybe I had overactive thyroid.
23:51
Speaker 3: Okay, now let me ask something, Raquel. And it's a
23:54
Speaker 3: beautiful name, by the way.
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Speaker 9: Thank you.
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Speaker 3: You're telling me that your mother would stick plate after
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Speaker 3: plate of flapjacks in front of you and then take
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Speaker 3: you to the doctor and ask him why you were
24:04
Speaker 3: getting fat? Oh, God.
24:06
Speaker 5: She would just... My mother.
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Speaker 4: Can we not play the laugh track anymore, please? I'm sorry, Raquel,
24:12
Speaker 4: but can we not play the laugh track?
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Speaker 5: My mother was a home woman. She stayed at home.
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Speaker 5: She took care of us kids.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, you said she was a home woman? A homemaker.
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Speaker 5: A homemaker. She cooked us all our meals, breakfast, lunch,
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Speaker 5: and dinner. She took care of us. She gave us
24:28
Speaker 5: our vegetables. She gave us our meat.
24:30
Speaker 3: She gave us our.
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Speaker 5: Cereal, whatever. We weren't people to be eating out or
24:34
Speaker 5: having lots of sweets. But if we asked for more food,
24:37
Speaker 5: she gave it to us. She wasn't going to keep it.
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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is the woman's got eyes in
24:41
Speaker 3: her head. She can see her lovely daughter, who she
24:44
Speaker 3: gave a lovely name to, and she can see the
24:46
Speaker 3: child turning into a human ball.
24:49
Speaker 5: She had two thin girls and the chunky girl. I
24:51
Speaker 5: was just known as the big bone girl. Well, yeah,
24:55
Speaker 5: she could stand to lose some weight, but she's healthy.
24:57
Speaker 5: She's okay. It'll all come off when she grows up.
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Speaker 3: I'm telling you right now, those are blind parents that
25:02
Speaker 3: were blind to your pain, didn't see the pain that
25:05
Speaker 3: you were living in. Every day you'd go to school
25:07
Speaker 3: and you'd hear this as you waddled on campus. I
25:11
Speaker 3: didn't waddle. It would have been better if Miss Bingham
25:15
Speaker 3: had been there for you. I would have said something like, hey,
25:18
Speaker 3: butter girl, hey, you know, and then you'd get all upset.
25:20
Speaker 3: And then I would monitor. Oh, that's how it works.
25:21
Speaker 5: To me, the name calling wasn't as bad as that.
25:23
Speaker 5: I had boys pretend they were in an earthquake area
25:26
Speaker 5: when I walked down the aisle of where my desk was.
25:29
Speaker 3: Right, exactly.
25:30
Speaker 5: I mean, I've had it pretty bad.
25:31
Speaker 3: Exactly.
25:32
Speaker 5: But, see, at least I was a tough cookie. It
25:34
Speaker 5: didn't get to me like it did.
25:36
Speaker 3: You said that you packed on more weight after you
25:39
Speaker 3: heard it.
25:39
Speaker 5: Yeah, because I would eat more.
25:40
Speaker 3: I would eat more. Now, you're a child of mine.
25:43
Speaker 3: The last thing I'm going to do is get– the
25:45
Speaker 3: box of dehydrated buttered mashed potatoes like your mother did.
25:49
Speaker 5: She never made dehydrated potatoes.
25:50
Speaker 3: Well, you told me she did.
25:51
Speaker 5: No, her home cooking was good. She cooked good food for.
25:56
Speaker 6: Us.
25:56
Speaker 3: When you would walk down the hall, did you ever
25:58
Speaker 3: hear this? That kind of thing? Because I heard that
26:03
Speaker 3: as a kid.
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Speaker 5: What's that sound?
26:05
Speaker 3: Well, they would make it sound like, you know, big
26:07
Speaker 3: giant steps were cracking the pavement, you know.
26:11
Speaker 5: I mean, in calling, or they would say, look at
26:13
Speaker 5: the hippo run, or here comes.
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Speaker 3: The hippo bird. I'd love to get your mother's... When I.
26:18
Speaker 5: Saw pictures of me when I was younger, I wasn't
26:21
Speaker 5: even really that fat. I'd like to stand to lose
26:23
Speaker 5: some weight, but I wasn't that bad. But it did hurt,
26:26
Speaker 5: the name calling. But it doesn't work because I never
26:28
Speaker 5: told my mother.
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Speaker 3: I mean, what do you mean it wasn't that bad,
26:32
Speaker 3: but it did hurt? You are a walking contradiction, girlfriend.
26:36
Speaker 3: It hurt me, but.
26:38
Speaker 5: After so long of it being done to me, it
26:41
Speaker 5: didn't bother me anymore. That's what I'm trying to get at.
26:42
Speaker 3: I'd love to get your mother's phone number and call
26:44
Speaker 3: her up. What's your mother's first name?
26:47
Speaker 5: My mother's first name is Elisa.
26:48
Speaker 3: And say, what a beautiful name. And I would say, Elisa, darling.
26:53
Speaker 3: What time did you get out of bed this morning
26:55
Speaker 3: that you didn't see your daughter turning into a freaking cannonball?
26:58
Speaker 5: What I'm trying to say is it took care of
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Speaker 5: itself on its own eventually. Because all it did to
27:04
Speaker 5: me when I was younger, in junior high school, let's say,
27:06
Speaker 5: I just ate more and more and got fatter.
27:09
Speaker 3: When I got into high school.
27:13
Speaker 5: I was already tired of hearing all the names. Oh, yeah,
27:15
Speaker 5: big fun, make fun of me, whatever. And I alone
27:18
Speaker 5: started to lose the weight because, hey, I saw, you know,
27:21
Speaker 5: I started getting attracted to boys and I wanted to
27:23
Speaker 5: look good.
27:24
Speaker 3: And on my own, I started to lose the weight.
27:26
Speaker 3: But see, here's one of the reasons why it starts
27:27
Speaker 3: to lose, like, the world ran out of food.
27:32
Speaker 1: Okay, what's with the moo?
27:33
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about. How does that feel when
27:36
Speaker 3: I do that? I want to know, Raquel.
27:37
Speaker 5: Now, as an adult, it doesn't bug me. If I
27:40
Speaker 5: was in middle school, it would have probably hurt.
27:43
Speaker 3: All right, when you hear this, do you get hungry?
27:46
Speaker 3: A little bit of bacon sandwich, maybe?
27:48
Speaker 5: No, see, now I'm an adult. Now I keep myself.
27:52
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when you hear this, don't you want to
27:54
Speaker 3: have to slap a couple of pieces of bacon on
27:55
Speaker 3: some wheat toast? I don't eat ham.
27:59
Speaker 5: I don't eat pork.
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Speaker 3: That's not ham. It's bacon.
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Speaker 1: It's from a pig.
28:02
Speaker 5: It's a pig.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand.
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Speaker 1: Are you nuts? Ham, bacon, it's all a pig.
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about this. Ain't that what that is?
28:14
Speaker 1: That's a bacon.
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Speaker 5: Bacon comes from a pig, not a cow.
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Speaker 8: Well, I'm not familiar.
28:19
Speaker 4: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Raquel, I've got to go. Raquel, you were a great caller.
28:23
Speaker 1: Thank you.
28:23
Speaker 3: Well, I'm not done with her. I want to find
28:25
Speaker 3: out the woman that raised this child and turned her
28:26
Speaker 3: into a beast.
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Speaker 1: She's fine now.
28:29
Speaker 5: I'm not a beast. I'm actually a very beautiful girl.
28:31
Speaker 1: I've picked up very well. Thank you, hon.
28:33
Speaker 5: I just hope they fire you from your job.
28:35
Speaker 1: Thank you very much.
28:37
Speaker 3: You thanked her for saying that?
28:38
Speaker 1: Look, I just wanted to be very kind to the lady.
28:40
Speaker 3: I'm just wondering if she's hungry. I'm opening up some soup.
28:49
Speaker 1: Just turn off the can opener. Let's go over to Mike. Hi, Mike.
28:53
Speaker 1: You're on the Phil Henry Show.
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Speaker 6: Hi. Thank you.
28:56
Speaker 1: Yes, sir.
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Speaker 9: Before I give my point, I want to make a
28:59
Speaker 9: point that I don't have a dog in this fight
29:01
Speaker 9: because when I went through school, I weighed 140 pounds
29:04
Speaker 9: and I was 5'10. But I want to say one
29:08
Speaker 9: thing to this lady is that, you know what? It
29:11
Speaker 9: doesn't matter if these kids are fat or not. It
29:15
Speaker 9: is not your job to police those parents or those kids.
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Speaker 6: Mike, can you hang on?
29:22
Speaker 1: Mike, hang on. Hang on, Mike. We're going to take
29:24
Speaker 1: a break, and I'll come right back to you.
29:26
Speaker 3: I want to respond to him, okay, by saying this.
29:29
Speaker 4: Will you turn off your cow sound effects, please? This
29:32
Speaker 4: is humiliation. Hold on, Mike. We'll be right with you.
29:36
Speaker 6: Go ahead, Mike. Well, I i just said that uh
29:39
Speaker 6: it's not her please these parents and that's what she's doing.
29:43
Speaker 3: Well um is this the gentleman i was speaking with
29:46
Speaker 3: yeah sir you don't understand there are a million parents
29:50
Speaker 3: and more in this country that don't care are not
29:52
Speaker 3: taking care of their children what do you expect the
29:55
Speaker 3: schools to do not to intercede on behalf of these
29:58
Speaker 3: children If we don't, we're criticized. If we don't, we
30:02
Speaker 3: are criticized. If we do, and then what happens to
30:05
Speaker 3: that child? You mean that child is just left without anyone?
30:11
Speaker 3: Whose problem is it? I'm curious. Do you have an
30:12
Speaker 3: answer for that question?
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Speaker 6: What was the question?
30:16
Speaker 3: Whose problem is it?
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Speaker 9: It's not yours.
30:19
Speaker 3: Whose problem is it? You don't have an answer. And
30:24
Speaker 3: the reason why you don't have an answer, you.
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Speaker 6: Don't have children.
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Speaker 3: Well, I've made it my job, whether you like it
30:33
Speaker 3: or not. And if you send a fat kid onto
30:36
Speaker 3: my school, well, you can say it and you can
30:39
Speaker 3: think it and you can jump up and down and
30:41
Speaker 3: hold your breath. But when I see some tub of
30:43
Speaker 3: guts come on my campus... What do you think about that?
30:54
Speaker 6: I think that if I encountered such an ignorant pig
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Speaker 6: do such a thing to little kids one.
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Speaker 9: Way or the other, I would yank them out and I.
31:05
Speaker 6: Would either homeschool them or send them to private.
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Speaker 9: First of all, sir, to.
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Speaker 3: Homeschool a child, you have to know something other than
31:18
Speaker 3: it's not your job. That's number one. Number two... Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Will you knock it off with a canned laughter? Go ahead, Mike.
31:27
Speaker 3: I just think this man, this man really doesn't, the
31:31
Speaker 3: man doesn't have an answer. Let me, listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Did you hear that?
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Speaker 9: It sounds to me like a little child having fun.
31:42
Speaker 3: No, that's the sound of a child eating. You feed
31:46
Speaker 3: the child.
31:46
Speaker 6: The child I'm referring to is you.
31:48
Speaker 3: You feed the child until he turns into a human blimp.
31:51
Speaker 3: and then you send him sailing on over to the
31:53
Speaker 3: school where he explodes like the Hindenburg.
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Speaker 1: If I hear that laugh one more time, I'm hanging
32:02
Speaker 1: up on you, Ms.
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Speaker 3: Bingham. You know, I'm trying to make a point here,
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Speaker 3: and this man is.
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Speaker 9: He doesn't have an answer.
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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter how you feel about it. It's not
32:14
Speaker 6: your job.
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Speaker 3: It's not your job.
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Speaker 1: All right. Either you start to converse with this man.
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Speaker 3: Well, he's the one that blimped the kid out with
32:25
Speaker 3: all the flapjack. Excuse me? I said you're the one
32:30
Speaker 3: that turned the child into this by feeding him all
32:32
Speaker 3: the food and then you sent him to school. Where
32:35
Speaker 3: he roots around for an apple core.
32:38
Speaker 1: All right, hang up on her.
32:39
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, I got one more sound effect. I
32:40
Speaker 3: want to go....
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