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32. Alain Poupart: From Typewriters to Training Camp · Out to Pasture

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the right place at the right time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, welcome back to Out to Past, you're here at Miami Dolphins Training Facility, Kimbo, Camper, Joe Rose, and Alan Poupard.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Alan, you started out with the Dolphins Digis a long, how many years ago was that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, I started with the Miami News.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, before that, and I'm going to date myself here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: at the Orange Bowl, Mark Duper back after missing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think two months were the January.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dolphins win, twenty one, seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: My assignment that day, this was a day when newspapers covered both locker rooms.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to just locker rooms when I assignment that day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Needless to say, not a happy place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dolphin digest, nineteen eighty nine, and I have covered every single solitary game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And now you're doing the all-dolphin podcast, you're doing Miami Dolphins on his side, and you're in the in the podcast world.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're happy to have you on our podcast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me, fellas.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's kind of get, let's get the stuff out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This team, you're looking with this team is and what do you think about what they're seeing with their building here right now?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Might as well talk about it since we're here at training camp, then we'll get down to the nostalgia.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the best part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's an appropriate place to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, I feel different ways, because the last couple of days of practice, as we're taping this, the defense is blown away the offense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, that's not close.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know where the offense can do if things go right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If Tyre can model or getting involved in all that, and then you have other options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the possibilities are there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the defense is a big question.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a season second area corner back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a ceiling could be like ten wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Floor, I think we've seen if two are plays a good number of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The floor can't be lower than seven, so I didn't worry between seven and ten wins, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's been two topics that I know drives the team nuts, but we talk about it and we should, and that's the inexperience at the cornerback position and the moves they've made to bring in a couple of veterans here during camp.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then on top of that, depth on the offensive line, Austin Jackson's been out a couple weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Gonna be out more a couple more weeks that'll find some tackles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See, and I've covered the law for a while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember, I remember a crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was circa, two thousand, thirteen, maybe.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and then you mentioned Austin Jackson, and then because they don't have enough injuries on their offensive long offensive line.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Andrew Meyer, who was looking pretty good as a second year of rookie freedom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's out for quote unquote weeks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, the backup spot is just not great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If something happens, one of the starters and what we know that never happens to the dolphin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about Mike a little bit, Mike McDaniel.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I joined over talking earlier that you know, you could kind of see a difference in this team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think they're hitting a little more, they've been pads, and I think you're starting to see a team getting a little more physical.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think that's more player-driven?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You think that's Mike Driven?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because we talked about the last couple of drafts that they had at least at first the second draft.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, those guys got their big physical guys that have come in and guys that can make play.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think this young group, if they get another draft like this, can be a nucleus of a team that can do something in the future?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if the guys pan it plan out and you hope Kenneth Grant is going to be a solution defensive tackle Jonah Savallina you're in the last year Patrick Paul was looked fabulous in training camps so far, but it's training camp.
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[SPEAKER_00]: was a chop, chop looks the part as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's where the dolphins need to build a sustainable, contending team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to hit on your traffic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't have guys like, sorry, campsmith, who's not looking to be spending out, you need to hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's too early to say, granted, survive and I are going to hit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's a reason for optimism and it looks really good right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're chopping.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, Dr. Paul.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I listen to Anthony Weaver here a couple of days ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he sold me man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, hey, we got our guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel good about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Super positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, think with our front seven, it's really going to help them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all in on this group.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he mentioned four or five names, including Ethan Bonner in there, that he felt pretty good about how do you feel about it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, I'm going to preface it by saying with all of you respect Anthony, we were who I like a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of what they're going to say this time of year, am I right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to say, man, we're concerned about our corner backs, but only moly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That gets back to Mike, anything gets a little negative around here, going to be some trouble.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty much.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Frick Sanjo's gone, because it's Sanjo would be like, yeah, I don't feel really good about this girl.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, some of those days are gone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm seeing at practice is I'm not seeing guys getting toasted all the time though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't want to like be all sunshine and roses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not I've been called a hater in certain parts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's not my stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, shocker right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't seen guy getting roast, strong duck hasn't pressed a hell out of me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, holy, holy number one guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, I mean, I got physical, the other day when he's out there, his body is like, did you see the, I mean, holy, I got, I got mocked by some other media members because I asked him like, dude, you look a lot bigger on top of me the last year and all of a sudden, why do you so fascinated by his body?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it looks totally different.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a lot more physical.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Kendall Sheffield, what I've seen from Kendall Sheffield, he's a veteran, he does have experience in the NFL.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got burned, the practice deep, like now once not twice like three times when they this week, and I think maybe the long range speed is an issue there, but he's gonna be on his assignment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Jack Jones is a wild card, because I think the ceiling's really, really high, but he's a guy who's gonna go for plays, and if he gets burned, it can be ugly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think, I don't think the cornerback position is the disaster area that a lot of people think of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, I think to me, the depth on the offensive line is a little bit better.
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[SPEAKER_01]: about wanting these guys to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, I do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a more optimistic now than I was a month ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're seeing what's happening at training camp and the dolphin offense is not torching the dolphin.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So Joe and I, you know, we were out the past year, we're the old, you know, crotchity guys and you can't help but look at these practices and look at the training camp practices when you first came back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then the gassers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you guys are probably looking at that going like, oh, it's a different deal, isn't it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have coaches who have to be very, very delicate in how they talk to players because you don't talk to players in twenty twenty five.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the things Shula told you guys heard of.
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[SPEAKER_01]: from where you were, you could.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard Marino at times, and I heard Shula at times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And also what should be pointed out is back in the day, the reporters were a lot on the field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're in the stands, and unless Mike is really screaming, we can't hear what is being said.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can see if he's agitated or not, but we can't hear it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So one thing about that, I remember going, doing one on one drills, and the reporters will be standing right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And certainly there were, you know, expeditions and everything, but they never went that way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they reported what they were seeing, but they never like the coaches doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this guy's grinding this guy down or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was a different caliber of
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[SPEAKER_02]: of, look, the media was completely different then.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now it's a try to catch you got, count me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But that was just, you know, no opinions there was just facts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what I see in this what seems to be going on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But boy, there was a lot of things you'd you saw that, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, absolutely good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and now nowadays it'd be like if Mike just gives a guy a wrong look, chances are somebody's going to point it out in a column or in a practice report because those practice reports, which is something new, which fans love nowadays back in the day all the respect we talked to you guys after practice and right feature stories, it wasn't like a whole practice right there.
8:11
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to ask you about the quarterback, not starting quarterback, but we have to consider what's happened here in the past.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury bug for Tua.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel about number two and number three?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: fair and bow and I disagree on this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Queen yours look really good every time I come out here you've seen every practice.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
8:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
8:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
8:41
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
8:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
8:43
[SPEAKER_01]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I said you were on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Just as good as Quinn you were, if not better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and maybe there's this thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's the thing is, there's more of the unknown with Quinn you were as he comes in as rookie seventh round pick.
8:57
[SPEAKER_00]: The big question, of course, why did he last until the seventh round?
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know he's a very good fit for this offense, but what's his ceiling, and he comes in.
9:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And to me at times, when he operates the offense, it looks a little bit like tour.
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[SPEAKER_00]: With the same skill set and the same limitations.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Zach Wilson, who has been eons better than I thought, he was going to be based on what I saw with the jets.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of operated the offense pretty well, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's made a couple of throws on the move.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and he's also got when he needs to zip it, he can zip it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I would counter with this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Why has he been on three different teams?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He was the second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's coming out as well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what makes you believe he's going to light up here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the one thing I do know that would certainly make him the first option is he's got experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's experienced not only great, but he's got experience.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Correct.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he knows what the pace of the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he knows how what the speed is again.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And to me, that's what's going to put him the number one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think, you know, I'm, look, I think they're both better than, I think we're better off last year than we were last year with our two backup quarterback.
10:03
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not going into the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like, it's like like this.
10:08
[SPEAKER_00]: What would give me hope and why why did Wilson flame out of this two spots?
10:11
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he flamed out with the jets.
10:12
[SPEAKER_00]: I think Joe was kind of hitting on it.
10:14
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
10:14
[SPEAKER_00]: The coaching was not exactly ideal.
10:16
[SPEAKER_00]: And they, the offensive line, because this comes up very often as a defense whenever too.
10:21
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't produce big numbers.
10:22
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the offensive line suck.
10:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if we're going to use that for too long, let's use it for Zack Wilson to play behind a garbage offense out of the jet.
10:29
[SPEAKER_00]: And then with what I was told with Denver is basically, they put out the same offer to Jared Stittham or Zack Wilson.
10:35
[SPEAKER_00]: Stittham took it.
10:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if Wilson wanted to go back there and compete to me.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Zack Wilson's got so much of a higher ceiling.
10:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Sorry.
10:43
[SPEAKER_00]: Then Stittham, and I think with good coaching, I think you can coach on bad habits.
10:49
[SPEAKER_02]: Not to offend either one of those guys, but hopefully we don't see him this year.
10:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
10:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so let's go back.
10:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So over the course of your experience, uh, sorry for my way to read that with Larry Dorman.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My news.
11:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Here's my news.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He preceded me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
11:06
[SPEAKER_02]: So what, what, what things stick in your mind over the course of your history of cover this team?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Jesus.
11:15
[SPEAKER_00]: Um,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Good man, you're like yeah, that's a tough question.
11:19
[SPEAKER_00]: No, that's that open dead in question.
11:20
[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna.
11:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the first game I ever covered on the C sticks out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as a member.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good one that.
11:25
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was wild.
11:26
[SPEAKER_00]: The first game I covered for Dolphin Digest was a nineteen eighty nine season opener against the Buffalo Bills.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That that was a time when reporters were a lot on the field in the last six minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was on the field and
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[SPEAKER_00]: Last play of the game you're up twenty four twenty Jim Kelly scores on the quarterback quarterback draw figure was yeah, it's here and the place was just I mean it was like you were the AFC Championship game when I think thermaton was just got another screen and can and can and can a Davis to and can a Davis Yeah, we're very red right across.
12:00
[SPEAKER_00]: It was all that stuff
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and sadly that's the last time the dolphins were in the US each and each.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, with home field advantage, but I think I mean they got outplayed bad.
12:11
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so funny to go back to old school because Bo is the worst out of it.
12:17
[SPEAKER_01]: He can't let the old school.
12:20
[SPEAKER_01]: He really gets going on the practice and everything else.
12:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I've told you down a bit.
12:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You have a little bit of it.
12:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It's an important thing to call your ass out of your time to get you to do it.
12:30
[SPEAKER_01]: What's the biggest change you've seen in the game overall?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where we are today, by the way, super popular game.
12:35
[SPEAKER_01]: I never thought we played in the seventies and eighties would be like this.
12:39
[SPEAKER_00]: From a media perspective, and I don't know if people care about the media perspective, and all that, how everything is that a national secret is like my Lord.
12:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dealing with everything, line up things.
12:51
[SPEAKER_00]: There are certain teams around the league, and one of the many teams who will ask the reporters, do not say which player, which unit, the injuries, and it's like,
13:03
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, again, it's a sport.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, competitive advantage, and all that good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I get it, but it's a little difficult.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a football game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There's enough video, everyone can watch, you can break down a game after the game's over, as a fan, and see all the tape that you see here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all out there, but it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the worst thing that ever happened for the media may be is that Jimmy Johnson's story of how we spotted a play.
13:34
[SPEAKER_00]: The bills were going to run in the Super Bowl.
13:36
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a shovel pass to Thurmond Thomas in the Super Bowl because of what they had seen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They practiced it and they blew it up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you'd never told that story, Jimmy Johnson, who I really liked as a coach and all that, if he'd never said that story, maybe things would be different, maybe.
13:51
[SPEAKER_01]: But there is a real, people are real paranoid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen college football too.
13:56
[SPEAKER_01]: They're checking around to see if he was on top there before because like they're going to take it back with him.
14:02
[SPEAKER_00]: But that was that was different even by then depending on depending on the team because I remember covering the nineteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The orange bowl at the end of the nineteen-eight-five season four, the Miami News, and I was assigned to Oklahoma, Martin Klinkenberg.
14:16
[SPEAKER_00]: Good buddy, you guys probably ran into.
14:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It was assigned to cover Penn State, and he was telling me for them the limitations they had on the media was crazy.
14:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, for Penn State, for covering Penn State, meanwhile, we're covering Oklahoma, and Barry Switcher is walking over to us, shooting the brief.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, practice is going on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm heinous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Oklahoma wanted to pick in their ass.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a really good team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not worth it.
14:37
[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what are you guys up for?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you recommend for dinner tonight?
14:40
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you very much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the offer, sir.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, as we talk so much, it's going to be a lot of tough decisions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know everybody likes to come back in this team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the back side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Safety, wide receiver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, lines going to be tough decision because I don't have enough guys who can play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whoops, sir.
15:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are the two main ones.
15:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Addressor?
15:04
[SPEAKER_01]: You would be surprised if final cuts, they go outside, two, three, four guys in, potentially in the fifth, three-man roster.
15:12
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I could say that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But not bigger names, because of the veterans, you have to guarantee a contract if they're on the roster week one.
15:21
[SPEAKER_00]: So for those guys, you're going to wait till.
15:22
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the guys that they've been looking at, that they might have had an interest in during camp, or even in the draft and they're out there and make things better.
15:29
[SPEAKER_02]: So especially in the secondary in the back of offensive line, you're going to have to find there's going to be least two or three guys in those two spots that aren't here right now.
15:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why.
15:42
[SPEAKER_01]: the week the next two weeks coming up on the road going to be really important for the guys we've been talking about.
15:48
[SPEAKER_01]: This going to be a chance for them to go.
15:49
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you got two weeks in.
15:51
[SPEAKER_01]: You know the system.
15:52
[SPEAKER_01]: Go out and show as you complain and some fresh guys.
15:55
[SPEAKER_00]: without, without, without question.
15:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Your, your, your, your edge because right now when we're talking like today, Derek McClendon spoke and then Grayson Murphy spoke to the media.
16:03
[SPEAKER_00]: And there are two guys, if you're, if you're counting like Jalen Phillips shop Robinson Bradley, chop your on your team, more than likely Quentin Bell, while that leads Grayson Murphy, Derek McClendon, who's the good Cameron Good, Mohamed Kamara.
16:18
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about you know as you came in it was typewriters and this and that and now it's podcast it's these instant hits and all this stuff and and you know I remember I remember coming in and it was the grizzled veteran you know that
16:36
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, the Ed Polks and those guys, and there were one step away from having the ticket, the ticket in there, they're hat, you know, all smoking cigars, and they're drinking like a fish at night.
16:46
[SPEAKER_02]: It's fine.
16:46
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Going doing all that kind of shit.
16:48
[SPEAKER_02]: And now it's, you know, now you've got, you know, now it's, it's people with not a lot of experience getting in and getting on camera.
16:58
[SPEAKER_02]: getting behind the, you know, any, like, we're doing it to us to idiots who are doing a podcast, we can do it.
17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And anybody can do it, but it's, but it's, it's, as you want to, if you, if you kind of look at the layers like the, like the magma and stuff in the earth of where, where the things stacked up, it would be a hell of a story, man.
17:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's amazing?
17:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I just recently heard being around you and Omar and other people.
17:23
[SPEAKER_01]: the writer sometimes in the podcast there's there's a lot of dolphin fan pastors out there that are doing stuff and I hear the back and forth sometimes when you're getting your information from us well I'm getting out to my fan base and they like us and and you're kind of you've been on both sides well I've been on the attack side a couple of times particularly oh yeah shocking I know I mean you would think you would think everybody loves me but no no part particularly because
17:55
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't unconditionally throw flowers to QB-One, and that offends a lot of two or nearest for like, I've been a term, and it's like, he's a good quarterback, but let's not pretend he's going to Hall of Fame the second his career's over.
18:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like, and there are times when, like, I made the point like early on, but when we talk about my McDonald's, I had coach.
18:21
[SPEAKER_00]: To me, I don't think we should short-change like the genius of his offensive scheme and how it opens up any, how he's maximized the speed of tarry kill and kill and water.
18:30
[SPEAKER_00]: And can we be honest and then admit that if you have a quarterback with some accuracy and some touch, it kind of helps having those guys and it facilitates putting up big numbers.
18:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, no, no, no, you're taking it away from it.
18:43
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, the one big failing of Mike is
18:48
[SPEAKER_00]: He reps it what seven thousand times with two.
18:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the backups get very few reps if any with those guys.
18:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't necessarily have the same skills.
18:58
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have the timing and all that.
18:59
[SPEAKER_00]: And go ahead and then go and go and go.
19:01
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like, like last year was, I mean, I'm sorry, there should not be that kind of a of a golfing performance between you.
19:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you know, the, I mean, I stand on the sidelines at the in the in Seattle.
19:13
[SPEAKER_02]: And I tell you what, I mean, first snap, this guy's a deer in the headlight.
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
19:19
[SPEAKER_02]: It is a deer in the headlight.
19:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Please explain that to me though.
19:23
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a guy who had been in the system for three years.
19:25
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
19:25
[SPEAKER_02]: He was ready for the system and Mike Mike could groomed him for it.
19:28
[SPEAKER_02]: And look, I was like, everyone else, oh, you know, he's been in the field doing it.
19:31
[SPEAKER_02]: And I could tell you, within two snaps, I go, this is a disaster.
19:37
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I could see his eyes and... Oh, you're the play guy.
19:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He was getting hit and you're like, how do you not see people like that?
19:43
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, oh, I'm your thinker.
19:44
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to throw the ball.
19:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
19:47
[SPEAKER_00]: And my thought last off season is even no scholar was a little bit.
19:52
[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't say even better, I would say less egregious.
19:55
[SPEAKER_00]: less bad than Mike White to me.
19:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I would have felt a lot more comfortable with Mike White who had a bigger body of work in the regular season.
20:02
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
20:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, listen, you're right.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think this whole thing starts.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody wants to know what do you think?
20:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I go to starts with two attend to my lower needs to play seventeen games and we'll go from there.
20:13
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see what happens late and all the other things everybody talks about out there playing in cold weather late in the year against good teams.
20:20
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't play well against playoff.
20:21
[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to stay healthy so we can find out.
20:24
[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you, what's your, I know, I know you, you're an NFL guy, but what is your opinion on, well, so there's a couple things.
20:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So you got, you know, you got, so like now you got ESPN's just picking up stuff from the NFL, they're gonna be doing the red zone.
20:40
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's, this whole energy within covering, and look, I can say basketball, baseball, but it's all about the NFL.
20:50
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, from a broadcast standpoint, that's the behemoth.
20:53
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
20:54
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, but those parts keep moving around.
20:57
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't know if you go to Apple TV to watch a game, you've got to go to Netflix to see a game, whatever.
21:03
[SPEAKER_02]: All of that stuff.
21:04
[SPEAKER_02]: And then with, you know, there's there's five million podcasts out there.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
21:09
[SPEAKER_02]: Five million podcasts that they're all looking for trying to get, you know, trying to get a place in there.
21:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Much like we're doing.
21:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And then you've got, then you've just got ancillary stuff going, it's,
21:20
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know how you got to be a lot more technically it's sound than Joe and I when it comes to this stuff.
21:28
[SPEAKER_02]: I can barely type an email, you know what I mean?
21:31
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm right about it.
21:33
[SPEAKER_02]: So how have you been able to maneuver your way through?
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[SPEAKER_00]: the typewriter and really try to figure out make a little more right now yeah I mean it's well the bread and butter is still the website but and now I want to know part that they were podcast and we're exploding like in you know twenty twenty threes when I started I didn't want to do one because I didn't want to be looking into camera and talking like I know some people do it solo yeah it to me was going to be okay if I had if I'm able to hire on a staff writer on my staff then I'll do it with him and then I have Omar joined the staff for a bit
22:03
[SPEAKER_00]: So this okay, let's start a podcast with him and it did very very well.
22:07
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a good stick going him and I because he's wrong all the time.
22:11
[SPEAKER_00]: And I correct them.
22:12
[SPEAKER_01]: So they worked out there sometimes for sure.
22:16
[SPEAKER_02]: You know you don't dip into these love life.
22:18
[SPEAKER_02]: We like Joe does, right?
22:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I do that off air.
22:21
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they're Joe and I was riding you know between between him and Perk you know it's and they could do a a love-learn story.
22:30
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, days and day.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we all have some in common.
22:33
[SPEAKER_01]: We've been a little dysfunctional relief and but it's okay.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: And the point the needs to be mentioned here in your defense is on Mars not shy about putting it up.
22:41
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the perks no different perks.
22:43
[SPEAKER_02]: He's an open book.
22:44
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
22:45
[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, let's get back to that.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know where we were, but, but me and her in your way.
22:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we started the podcast and it did very well.
22:54
[SPEAKER_00]: be eventually growing audience, and I'm still not technically savvy in the least.
22:59
[SPEAKER_00]: You're set up right now, looks to me like, oh, that's very cool.
23:03
[SPEAKER_00]: I do it from my laptop, I don't have, I actually do have a microphone that I could use.
23:08
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't use it because to me it's cumbersome, it looks weird, and it sounds okay without it.
23:13
[SPEAKER_00]: And what I would, what I say to separate myself, not separate myself to make it clear what I provide is
23:23
[SPEAKER_00]: and sometimes it doesn't play well.
23:25
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not a dolphins fan.
23:26
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I covered this team now on the regular basis.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's good.
23:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, my fan, I'm not sure I'll expose.
23:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
23:35
[SPEAKER_00]: They don't longer exist.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: You sit down here.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: I hear that stuff about somebody says, if they don't care what they want, you're a hater, if you say that.
23:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's there's.
23:42
[SPEAKER_01]: They'd feel like you kissed their ass no matter what.
23:45
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that too.
23:46
[SPEAKER_01]: I get that job.
23:47
[SPEAKER_02]: But from them from the one who's access.
23:49
[SPEAKER_02]: This kind of comes from, you know, from, again, where you started,
23:54
[SPEAKER_02]: You couldn't be a fan.
23:56
[SPEAKER_02]: You want to be, you want to be able to say, hey, this guy's playing bad, this guy's playing good, this guy's playing good, this coach did this, and so the people that there's people that kind of gravitate to a lot of the podcasts, so
24:12
[SPEAKER_02]: profound with their beloved orphans, anything that is said to the opposite of what they're saying is blasphemy.
24:22
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have those who like break down film, which is good and some of them are very knowledgeable and all that, but it's like if you show me five plays from a game and you're going to make some sort of determination of what that player is really.
24:37
[SPEAKER_01]: You'd better be careful breaking down because nobody knows what assignments are.
24:40
[SPEAKER_02]: That's in the garden.
24:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what Adam Gays had a meeting.
24:46
[SPEAKER_02]: He brought in and he put a, he put a, he did.
24:49
[SPEAKER_02]: And he saw I figured who it was and he said in the guide guide said, Oh, this is what happened.
24:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And he went through that play.
24:55
[SPEAKER_02]: Now this, this happened here.
24:57
[SPEAKER_02]: This happened here, but this is where it started.
24:59
[SPEAKER_02]: It started back there.
25:01
[SPEAKER_02]: It didn't start out here.
25:02
[SPEAKER_02]: This guy was a guy that got kind of jackpot because this guy didn't do it.
25:06
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and look, those guys, to me, that's the one thing about when they can go on, go on, go and watch a game.
25:13
[SPEAKER_02]: and you can see it from the sideline or the end zone or whatever.
25:16
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, it's funny, it seems to me like every year, someone comes up with some new terminology.
25:23
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, setting the edge, you know, or, you know, the two deep.
25:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my God.
25:29
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
25:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The one I love is the quarterback manipulating the defense.
25:33
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
25:34
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry, it's called looking off a receiver.
25:36
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so I'm telling, I tell it.
25:38
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm here, tell it.
25:40
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of news stuff.
25:43
[SPEAKER_02]: But you know what, you see, you know, when I see it, they're guys that have learned football from the internet.
25:53
[SPEAKER_02]: And so they want to throw terminology out there.
25:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, this guy's climbing the edge to get there, you know what, what?
25:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I like the number gap.
25:59
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a compliment that to my wife.
26:17
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a complicated game, but they make it.
26:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these broadcasts make it way too complicated.
26:24
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't know.
26:25
[SPEAKER_02]: Some of my castors talk.
26:27
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
26:28
[SPEAKER_01]: You want some.
26:30
[SPEAKER_01]: They're saying, sure, they want to feel like they're on the end and they're using the terminology they hear out here from from a coach.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And there are some people who like that, that's their niche.
26:42
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, my niche is basically, I'm going to be honest.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: And even then I get like, you're just saying that to please the team, you're an asker for the team because you want to maintain your access.
26:52
[SPEAKER_00]: Or you're going to get people or you're just an always negative, always looking for the bad things.
26:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So as long as you're not a dolphin fan, you're only a macro fan.
27:04
[SPEAKER_02]: is football your your favorite sport or I know your tennis guy so what is your apparently I have a good serve according to him well we'll get to the answer to watch on television there's not a close second it's for the NFL
27:23
[SPEAKER_00]: to watch live, especially if you can get tickets for your clothes.
27:26
[SPEAKER_00]: There's not a close second.
27:27
[SPEAKER_00]: It's hockey.
27:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
27:29
[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with that.
27:31
[SPEAKER_00]: To play my sport growing up in the sport at which I was best was easily hockey right now at my advanced age of tennis.
27:39
[SPEAKER_02]: So you grew up in Canada?
27:40
[SPEAKER_02]: And so you have a neighborhood where I'm not because I was in my freshman year, I went to school in Minnesota.
27:47
[SPEAKER_02]: And Minnesota, you know, it's wide open, not a lot of, you know, a lot of space.
27:52
[SPEAKER_02]: And like every four house they would dig a little trench in their backyard when it got cold, they'd filled up with, and everyone had a hockey.
28:00
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone had their own hockey room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like four houses had a hockey room, and they're back yard.
28:04
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All over the place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All your buddies all had, everybody had dome.
28:08
[SPEAKER_00]: No, there might have been a couple, but then walking distance, we had like the municipal rake.
28:14
[SPEAKER_00]: They would even put boards, and then I said, Don, you had a nice surface to play.
28:18
[SPEAKER_00]: It was very nice.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.
28:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you what.
28:22
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're a hater.
28:23
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to let you know that I don't think you're a hater.
28:27
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to tell you his tennis game.
28:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, here we go.
28:29
[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I have going, because I want to get this out of the way.
28:32
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a part that nobody gives you shit about, but we do.
28:35
[SPEAKER_02]: So I just want to say, well, you know what, I know Joe, and I've played, I played, I played ping pong against Joe.
28:42
[SPEAKER_02]: I played tennis.
28:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I know what Joe is, right?
28:45
[SPEAKER_02]: And you go ahead.
28:46
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I'll get to that in a while.
28:47
[SPEAKER_02]: How do you have your sense?
28:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I have it.
28:49
[SPEAKER_01]: I just like him when he's out of shape or just coming back after he's been out of, I got a better shot and he gets a little tired.
28:55
[SPEAKER_01]: when he's hurt a little bit, then you start that drop shot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Here's, so here's, here's, let me give a, this the last time I played tennis just, first of all, he grips up a little high in that neck of the, he does.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, his little high in the, I didn't realize.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, and, you know, you'll, you'll hit a shot that's, that's out and he goes, oh, geez, that was really close, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're just misted by it, just misted by a little bit, right?
29:21
[SPEAKER_02]: That was something right.
29:22
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the fuck with you.
29:23
[SPEAKER_00]: I've never had never encountered that actually.
29:27
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do that at all.
29:28
[SPEAKER_02]: Look, he hits everything back.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He does.
29:30
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a bore.
29:31
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a wall.
29:32
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's, you know, he's just hitting back and hitting back and then all of a sudden, he drops that little dink shot and you race up there and over your head.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds great.
29:40
[SPEAKER_01]: It's not way to win out every chance.
29:42
[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
29:43
[SPEAKER_02]: How to hit it about that far from the end line, right?
29:47
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, that's it.
29:48
[SPEAKER_01]: We have fun.
29:49
[SPEAKER_02]: We do have fun.
29:51
[SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing was in playing golf, you know?
29:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Jesus.
29:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I did.
29:55
[SPEAKER_02]: You did a ball like I don't know.
29:56
[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus, just missing my ear.
30:04
[SPEAKER_00]: I know some people I want mention names who have played with Joe and tennis and kind of like accused them of gamesmanship.
30:10
[SPEAKER_01]: No, they do they all do like it.
30:12
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a good one.
30:13
[SPEAKER_01]: But I do.
30:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I will say a comment, but it's not an obvious one.
30:35
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a man getting close to those emails.
30:38
[SPEAKER_01]: That was the right play.
30:39
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:40
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:41
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.
30:41
[SPEAKER_02]: That's exactly it right there.
30:43
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:44
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:45
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:46
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:48
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:49
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:50
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really do that.
30:50
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:51
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:53
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really do that.
30:55
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:56
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:58
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
30:59
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that.
31:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really do that
31:02
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's great having you man.
31:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been nice.
31:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I've been around for a long time.
31:10
[SPEAKER_01]: Not a guy who to the organization has been around.
31:13
[SPEAKER_02]: So let me talk about this before we go.
31:16
[SPEAKER_02]: If you're looking at the hierarchy of people that you've worked with from a newspaper standpoint,
31:24
[SPEAKER_02]: the best, you know, I mean, who do you, you know, that if you had a honestly amount of rush more, but if you had a group of riders that really impressed you that you, you know, that you kind of, you know, not that you want to, you know, that you, you, you, you, you, you, you, you want to, but you took tips from them and you say, if I can be more like this, this is, this is how I like to be.
31:42
[SPEAKER_00]: There's two guys who stand out in the first one was at the Miami News, the late of the Oswaras.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:48
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:49
[SPEAKER_00]: You use on the beach.
31:50
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
31:51
[SPEAKER_00]: These are either one I would learn the most.
31:53
[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe some
31:55
[SPEAKER_00]: some finer points, I was a little, a lot more to my career back then, but still early, but a little bit as Andy Cohen, who was the longtime boss with the Dolphin Digest.
32:01
[SPEAKER_00]: Go ahead, cover the Dolphin's for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the, for the,
32:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the name of the story about poor Eddie.
32:17
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I can tell.
32:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's there.
32:18
[SPEAKER_02]: You may have something.
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Who was it?
32:20
[SPEAKER_02]: Who did that?
32:21
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, so Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo-Coo
32:32
[SPEAKER_02]: It was, I don't know why the dolphins are going up there.
32:33
[SPEAKER_02]: There's going to be turkey dinner for a quarter of them.
32:36
[SPEAKER_00]: That's like a quarter of them.
32:38
[SPEAKER_02]: So that was a big blow.
32:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And we blew them out.
32:40
[SPEAKER_02]: But he comes in and cooks that, hey, no one talks.
32:43
[SPEAKER_02]: It placed at it.
32:44
[SPEAKER_02]: And so some guys, some guys, talk at Eddie, and it placed it.
32:48
[SPEAKER_02]: Cooked your land, we're going to pick him a little blurry, picked him up out of the ground.
32:52
[SPEAKER_02]: Took him in the shower and she'll, you know, he just used to stand against the wall to do his, is perfect.
32:57
[SPEAKER_02]: So he's standing by the shower and he goes, hey, where's he going with that guy, you know?
33:01
[SPEAKER_02]: They took him in the shower, turned the shower on, it wouldn't let him up.
33:05
[SPEAKER_02]: And that was the story of that guy.
33:08
[SPEAKER_02]: He was a sense of humor.
33:09
[SPEAKER_02]: And I never put it out, never did any of that.
33:17
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's weak, don't you, Jesus?
33:20
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so so basically from Coaches, I'm just going jacked up on Chef for Jesus.
33:24
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna, you
33:43
[SPEAKER_01]: We want to start.
33:44
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to start the Chevy side of it.
33:45
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm a kid.
33:47
[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted new Cadillac lyrics.
33:48
[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, I'm, I mean, this my third Cadillac had bought from them over the years.
33:52
[SPEAKER_02]: I bought two suburbans from too.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not suburbans.
33:54
[SPEAKER_02]: I think the, I bought two tawhos from them.
33:57
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a couple tawhos in and there's five tawhos into it.
34:00
[SPEAKER_01]: My daughter just got a few week old there.
34:03
[SPEAKER_01]: Switched from Chevy and said, saw the Buick and fell in love.
34:06
[SPEAKER_02]: Buick GMC.
34:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.
34:08
[SPEAKER_02]: Cadillac, sales, service, the sales staff is great.
34:12
[SPEAKER_02]: The service staff is great.
34:14
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a play.
34:15
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to go and see it and I recommend it.
34:17
[SPEAKER_02]: Joe recommends it and we have a lot of guys, a lot of friends.
34:21
[SPEAKER_02]: They do a lot of shopping over at the Edmore Sawgrass Auto Mall.
34:25
[SPEAKER_01]: Easy to get to right off sunrise.
34:28
[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to do it for today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you next time.