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Sister Act 2 w/ Aarushi Agni · Everyone's A Critic

• 0:33
  SPEAKER_00: Hi, great to be here.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: How are you doing today?
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm doing all right.
• 0:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um, not enough soy milk in this coffee, but it's fine.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a soy drinker.
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's like I found I like scraped the drags of the milk that was in the fridge and sort of just mixed it with my coffee because I can't drink coffee black because I don't hate myself.
• 0:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I like am drinking almost black coffee with like a little bit of like soy dirt in it.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: Ooh.
• 1:02
  SPEAKER_02: I don't like soy uh soy milk.
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_02: I like soy in general, but like yet soy milk is just not a nice taste.
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_00: I use I use almond milk, but um really almond better than soy.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: Also, you're lactose intolerant.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's very interesting.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um no, I like my entire family's lactose intolerant.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: I think I just like the taste of soy because it was like a novel to me, like or novelty to me when I was a kid, so that's why I like it, but I do not like it reheated.
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_00: I think it tastes really weird.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_00: It tastes like I'm having like wentils in my coffee.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_02: I also don't drink coffee because it's um too much caffeine for me.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um I get like really jittery.
• 1:41
  SPEAKER_02: So I'm like, nope, I'm staying away from coffee.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I also get jittery and I also like And you just deal with it.
• 1:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, it my mom started me on coffee when I was like in seventh grade, and now like the the ritual of making coffee is like a little bit even more important than the act of drinking it.
• 1:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but I like have to make the coffee, otherwise I think the whole day will go badly.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like that's just like the way that it feels feels kind of like foreign and weird when I don't foreign in a good way, in a bad way.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_02: Is it not too late for you to be having a coffee as well?
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's like it's like zero o'clock here.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's 1 p.m.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm kind of a late riser and a late goer to bed.
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no, I woke up like three hours ago because somebody was yelling outside the window, but I have kind of been in a foggy state of mind until like literally right now.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_02: What's uh what's new with you?
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: So a few things.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: I now live in the East Village, which is something that is really new.
• 2:45
  SPEAKER_00: I am not um about a year ago, I would never have been able to live in the East Village.
• 2:50
  SPEAKER_00: But thanks to um this horrible pandemic, a lot of people who have paid like exorbitantly expensive rents fled the city because you know they wanted to go be bougie elsewhere.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so then their rent went significantly down.
• 3:07
  SPEAKER_00: So then I was able to like land a pretty fucking awesome apartment with my friend in the East Village.
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_00: And um now it's starting to get really fun because now the weather's getting good.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or like outside in the streets, like I'm right by Chinatown.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so like there's so much delicious food like in my zip code and so many dope places to walk to.
• 3:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like it honestly, like yesterday I went to, I realized that this bookstore that I love that was always such a huge trek for me to get to, is like 10 minutes away from me.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I went to the store, McNally Jackson.
• 3:45
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, yeah.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I went there, I bought a bunch of books, and it dropped like$95 on books, of which probably a third I will actually read because I'm like a big book delayer.
• 3:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um because I like because I feel like there's always like a moment in your life that is like the best time to read a book.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like it's like the book's gonna like come back to me, or like it's gonna find me, or it's gonna like wink at me one day, and then I'm gonna be like, okay, I'm reading this book now.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, okay, you're ready to go, let's go.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: But like I yeah, so I was really I'm really excited about those books I bought, and then I did my therapy on a patio at a coffee shop, and I was like, I'm bad.
• 4:27
  SPEAKER_02: Like, why did you wait?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_02: Why?
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because I didn't feel like rushing home or going back inside.
• 4:39
  SPEAKER_00: So then I decided to just like do it on a patio, and she was like pretty excited for me.
• 4:44
  SPEAKER_00: She was like, Oh, you're outside, cool.
• 4:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like, because she could never do that, right?
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_00: She couldn't mute and be like, I'm at a coffee shop, let's do your therapy.
• 4:52
  SPEAKER_00: But like, I could do that.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, you can get away with it.
• 4:56
  SPEAKER_02: The therapist definitely cannot do that.
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Katie, I'm gonna spend 15 bucks right now.
• 5:02
  SPEAKER_02: I did my, I was doing like um for the first sort of six months of the pandemic, I was like, I was uh having uh therapy and everything, and it was it was weird because I just started then as well, and she was like clearly at home because you could hear her kids and everything as well.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_00: Whoa, that's wild.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: I can't imagine like the kids in the background.
• 5:22
  SPEAKER_00: My therapist like seems like she's in some room in Brooklyn, but like other than that, I can't really tell.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I do want to know everything about her life though.
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's very fascinating, isn't it?
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_02: You kind of want to know about them, but they're closed off.
• 5:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're so closed off.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: But I did like sometimes she gets excited about things I tell her, and then I'm like, oh, so you you are interested.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like I am like weaving a narrative for you that you find exciting.
• 5:49
  SPEAKER_00: But also, PSA people should not try to impress their therapists.
• 5:53
  SPEAKER_02: It is not oh yeah, that's a waste of time.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I know everybody does it, especially comedians, but like it's like you're paying them, they're not paying you.
• 6:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 6:05
  SPEAKER_02: Wait, are you have you become the therapist now?
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: No, but I I will say that I'm probably like probably one of the good patients, like probably like one of the fun patients.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_00: I would imagine.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: That's good.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would hope so.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so you've come on today to talk about the movie Sister Act 2.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I have, and I'm super excited to talk about it, and also a little scared because I cannot possibly be like, there are so many people who love this movie, and I am like not um I'm not worthy.
• 6:42
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't Do you really think do you really think there are a lot of people that love this movie?
• 6:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't really hear anyone like people enjoy it, but I don't hear a lot of people like rave about it.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think like I would whole like wholeheartedly disagree.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: I think that like this is like a darling of the you know of the nun going in undercover like two non-movies the Vegas Vegas lady going undercover genre or like the whoopie fandom.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's probably just like something that has sort of fallen into like it's kind of old now.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like now it's become old.
• 7:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's from '93, I think, or at least like that's what it said.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: That was the they were the class of 93.
• 7:27
  SPEAKER_02: Maybe 92.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_02: And uh yeah, 93.
• 7:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, uh, the first one's 92.
• 7:34
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, a lot of people love this film.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I think like, yeah.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_00: I I think a lot of people love this film.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think that we might be like, I don't know, like, appropriating by talking about it.
• 7:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like Yeah, maybe a little bit, but um, yeah, it's it's kind of like I don't know.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_02: It's a weird it's weird because it came so soon after the first one as well that it must have just been rushed.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if they were rushing it during the production of the first one.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_02: They were writing this one, or if it just like they immediately went into production, like the week they saw how well this the first one did.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: Can I just like less than a year?
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_00: I have never seen Sister Act.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: I've only seen Sister Act 2.
• 8:26
  SPEAKER_00: What I was going to try to watch Sister Act before this, but then I thought that might be.
• 8:33
  SPEAKER_00: Did I say that?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I did.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I didn't.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_02: It's fine that you didn't, but it's it's funny.
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_00: Honestly, I just like got into this class really last minute.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_00: So then I like all my time for watching movies, like like got diluted by the fact that I also have to binge a different show to write for this class.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, uh that's neither here nor there.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, boring.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I'd never seen have seen Sister Act.
• 8:57
  SPEAKER_00: I loved Sister Act too, and I actually came into my life because my own sister was like doing this like youth, um like in our like religious practice as a child, like she was like in this group of people who were like doing a music performance, and they just like ripped off the final performance of like of the sh movie, just like line for line, like completely exactly the same.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_00: They did the exact same dance, like the choreography, the singing.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: The same dance, it's so I remember because I remember watching the I was watching the dance the other night, and I literally started doing it.
• 9:40
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, wait, I have this in my body, like um why do I know this?
• 9:44
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so then I remembered like that's why I've like seen it is because my there was that very specific interaction between like the like my sister and that movie, and so I would watch I watched it with her.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um and then I also fucking love Lauren Hill.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_00: Am I allowed to swear?
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, I I adore Lauren Hill.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: And this was as a child, probably like I don't know if it was my intro to her, but it was like one of the many like Lauren Hill like contents that I encountered as a child.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, at the time, like her album Miss Education of Lauren Hill was like everywhere.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like one of the best, yeah, it's one of the best albums ever made.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and there was that story like on its like 10-year anniversary, 15-year-old anniversary, that was like we interviewed, we found all the children that were like in the little recordings on the album.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: And like this is where they are now, and they're all like still in that neighborhood where she like recorded them, which is like crazy.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um But yeah, I just uh it but I love the movie as a and I actually when I like got older and like was like or like when I found out what Sister Act was about, because like my parents had seen it and they were like, that's a good movie, like Whoopi Goldberg is so talented.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um I was like, I'm not that into this idea.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm actually more into the idea of her going into a school, pretending to be a nun, and like, you know, like reviving the spark of like joy and learning for these kids, you know.
• 11:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's like what really appeals to me about the movie.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and all the music.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_00: The music is bomb.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like the music's great in this movie, and it's just it just like really like holds no, like it just like keeps pulling out the guns because like in the beginning, there's like that awesome medley that she sings in Las Vegas, and then they like do that concert outside that's like the fundraiser that's just like fully so that they can like sing those songs, and um it's just like that's what you want to see in this movie, yes.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: You come to it for the music, yeah, and just I mean, there's like no part of it I don't I will say that like now, as like somebody who's just like my attention span has been forever altered by the times that we live in, like some of the like more serious scenes where the old people are all talking to each other, like I'm like no longer quite have the attention span for it.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I found myself like looking at my phone during those parts, but like even like just like even those parts are like so funny.
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's like I don't know, I I really enjoy everything to do with her and the kids in this movie.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_02: I I fully agree with you there.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_02: And then when when she's interacting with the other nuns, I enjoy that.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_02: When she's interacting with like the all the guys in it, yeah, why are there so many guys in it?
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_00: There it's I mean I guess there has to be like some patriarchal like asshole figure, but like I will say when when that guy, that guy who looked like a subsistence farmer, I think he was like a friar.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um Yeah, those those that's what I mean.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_02: Those guys, they're all really weird for no reason.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_00: When he cried in the end, or when he cried when Lauren Hill was like singing that solo, I like I like started crying like that.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_00: It was like she made him cry.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_02: There's it's it's I so let me let me explain the well, first of all, actually, so you kind of described your history with it, but like what was do you remember your first time seeing it?
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think I was watching it with my sister.
• 13:36
  SPEAKER_00: It would have been in like not um, it would have been in like 1996 or seven.
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um, so soon after it came out then.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't yeah, I mean, yeah, well, I remember like watching it and in the end they're like, oh, this is like my sister being like, because it says class of 93, like in the final performance, like it says it like somewhere.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_00: And my sister was like, Oh yeah, you were like so young when this like when this happened, and I was like, I don't know.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_00: I remember being like, I'm not young.
• 14:11
  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, I think I was like maybe like seven or something when I watched it, six or seven.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: Was I really that young?
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: That's fucking wild.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: That was like probably not appropriate for me, but it's okay.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_02: No, this is fine.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's like kind of rated G.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_02: Like, I don't think there's anything bad that's not there's not really anything in it that would be like not appropriate.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_00: In the beginning when she's like dancing with those men, and there's like that like muscle y man who's like not wearing clothes.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_02: That's harmless though.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: I remember being like, what is happening?
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: That's such a like a product of the 90s though, as well.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Those kind of those guys that look like that in dress that way.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_02: Like gladiator style, I don't I don't know.
• 14:54
  SPEAKER_02: Not gladiator style, but uh the TV show gladiators.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know if you do have that.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: I've never seen.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_00: Is it British?
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_02: I I said it and then I realised, yeah, it's British.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, I'm so sorry.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: I was so culturally inept.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's uh it's just I it was it was kind of like a show where people would um people would compete against these guys called these people called gladiators and they would dress them that way, like the muscle men and everything, and they would have like battles.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_02: It was just like it's very weird and hard to explain.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, I think that's called like the best American gladiator or something.
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yes, so that's gladiators.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I'm dumb.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not dumb.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_02: No, no, it's fine.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_00: I've only ever watched that without sound, like in a bar.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_02: Like Yeah, that's what I mean.
• 15:44
  SPEAKER_02: Like it really.
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it was cool, like it looked fun.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, if I was like really strong, like this would be super fun for me, but like I would have to like get really strong in order to get to that fun ending, and I think I have comparative advantages in other fields.
• 16:10
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I would never be able to well, I'm saying I wouldn't be able to do that, I just yeah, it would take a lot of work that I don't have the motivation for.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: I think at this point in life we can say that we will never become American Gladiators.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think like we can't be whatever we want to new goal.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_02: If we'd started if we decided this at the start of lockdown, maybe we could have been.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry I didn't get ripped in lockdown.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I was just too lazy.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me me too.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_02: Spent all my time just sad instead.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Lockdown sucks.
• 16:51
  SPEAKER_00: It truly does.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_00: But at least like we get the at least we get to like experience like the world of content that's available to us.
• 16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like it does sometimes feel like we like make content and it just like literally goes nowhere, or like we screen it into a void, you know?
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's nice to get a chance to be like, you know what, for like three months no one could make content.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_02: So or if you do make content, just throw it on Twitter and ten people will see it.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_00: Or like a thousand people will impress upon it and three people will like it.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_02: As we discussed.
• 17:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Twitter impressions are not fun to look at.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: Never check your Twitter impressions.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, do not do that.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_02: Especially if you are creating content.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just never never actually check who liked anything, to be honest.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, so let's talk about the movie then.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_02: Um so for anyone who hasn't seen it, um it's the sequel to Sister X.
• 17:59
  SPEAKER_02: Which um, so this one is so first of all, the original one she's going undercover as a nun to avoid a um I think she witnessed her boyfriend.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: And she has to go to the witness protection program.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 18:15
  SPEAKER_02: So she she hides and does that.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_02: This one, and I'm gonna read the synopsis here.
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um, she's surprised by a visit from the nun friends that she made in the first one, and um they approach her and ask her to help to teach uh music at a school for like Catholic kids, I guess.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I guess it's a Catholic school in Los Angeles, right?
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_02: But it's a troubled school, like that it's like a school in need of help, basically, and none of them can do anything.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_02: It's like an I guess they call that it would be like an inner city school.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like a school with a predominantly black population or like urban population of kids who are like all like really cool and sweet, but like maybe haven't been like I did I just like explain that like urban kids are sweet.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but they're all like you know, they just like are gifted children who are not given the advantages of like having enough resources for their school.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And um the school is at threat of closure by some outside forces that are never quite expected to be.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_02: By the school board, I think.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because the school is like not very successful apparently in terms of like getting accolades and the like test scores are probably not that high.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_02: So it's since like the 60s or something, wasn't it?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Like when they find the eventually find the awards or something like that.
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they haven't got anything for like 30 years.
• 19:44
  SPEAKER_00: So then, yeah, so then they're like, we like can make a difference in the school, but then they can't make a difference because they can't like they can't reach these kids because they're white old ladies preaching like abstinence only education.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_02: So one yeah, one thing I will say about this is it very much borders on the like white saviour uh th thing of like someone comes in and saves these kids, but that because it's whoopi Goldberg, it manages to skirt around it.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I think yeah, I mean, I think it's like this it it does that thing where it's like like these religious people are good, and then maybe it like casts like nuns in like a super positive light that like in real life they're probably I don't know, actually let me not get the entire Catholic church mad at me today, but like you know, it it like it's definitely like a wish fulfillment narrative about what um you know like what religion is doing in these communities, but also like that is not to discount all the good that like religious forces have the capacity or like the potential to do in communities.
• 21:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think that it's like a whoopee savior narrative or like a dolorous savior narrative.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there is kind of like the sensitivity with which they handle the fact that like these kids are black and whoopi Goldberg is black and all these nuns are white.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think the nuns are like without saying it, they're like these children need to be reached by somebody who's more like them.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um without ever like explicitly saying that.
• 21:30
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And to be fair, if they were white children, she would still probably be better at teaching them music because it's like a literal music class and she's a literal music star.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_00: So, like, I get why she's qualified.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she's more than qualified.
• 21:45
  SPEAKER_02: The other nun is just kind of like leaving them when even when she comes and visits, like sees them for the first time, then the other nuns just like standing there, like playing one note on the ki on the piano.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, that's true.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's so awkward.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_00: They're like, oh, all these children, they're so they come with their.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: own rhythmic chants and they we can't we can't handle them with our god rhythms um so I mean and I think it's I think it's like really beautiful the way that they show exactly like how fucking talented these kids are because I that's a part of the narrative that I actually completely buy um is just that all these kids are like really talented singers and like not to like you know I don't know like I don't want to like fetish the fact that like black people are good at music but I also think like it's it's so understandable that like these people are working on these talents and they're just not being recognized by the educators that are working with them.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_02: You know yeah I mean like I don't know it's it's a real it's sad when you think about it when you when you really think about the whole system there even though this is a light ho light hearted movie about you know just like people singing um yeah I mean it's I don't know I was gonna say like who do you know who did you know from the cast?
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Because I obviously like there's out of the kids there's two that are very famous and then the rest of them are kind of like not at all still.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um never went on to really do anything.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah no I'm pretty sure it was just Lauren Hill Whoopi Goldberg um and I mean later Jennifer Love Hewitt and then um yeah I like I didn't know any of the other kids but I think I like they became like exciting like stars to me during the show like you know what I mean like I think that I um like I feel like the ensemble casting of this is so good that like even though you have somebody like Dame Maggie Smith as like the mother superior um you don't even like really and I also I was a kid so like maybe I just like these were the it was like my first um introduction.
• 24:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh I don't mean back then who'd you know from the I I don't mean who did you know back then I meant who do you who are you aware of out of the cast because like yeah like basically yeah if from the kids there are only two two famous ones now and that's kind of sad.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah like because they're so talk 'cause they're all so talented.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: That's true.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like I feel like there's like this sort of sad obscurity that comes with playing a child in a movie and then like never like coming back for anything else.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_00: But also maybe they like don't want to be like I do also sort of feel like there's like this not wanting to be famous thing that's totally acceptable.
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah they don't have to be that's true.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah yeah like the like Ryan Toby the person who played Wesley like the oh he was incredible and I like don't remember him from anything else um no and I mean I'm sure he was in other stuff but just not stuff that was like in my consciousness and then um the lady who plays the other nun like the one who's really excited about sex education she's also super famous oh yeah yeah Kathy Nothing um she was in Hocus Hocus.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah she's been in a lot well she was I feel like she was famous around this time anyway.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah she's like an incredible and it was just exciting to see her in a habit and I think as a kid Whoopi Goldberg was such a huge star to me and seeing her in that way was really exciting to me.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: And also I don't think that she was like considered a singing star.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Like her career was not one of somebody who was like a singer am I wrong?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I guess so no no I think you're right.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_00: I just remember like she dated Ted Danson she did daytime TV is a big singer color purple.
• 26:15
  SPEAKER_00: Oh okay I'm wrong.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_00: I guess I like I think when I was a kid I just thought she was so funny that then I was really surprised that she was also a great singer.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know what I mean?
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_02: Like also I'm just thinking this was like three years after Ghost as well which she won her Oscar for what a star.
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_02: So like she just can't so she like she was at like probably the height of her fame.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah it is wild to me that she was married to Ted Danson were they ever married I thought they were maybe they just dated I remember that like he did blackface and then she was like it's fine.
• 26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah that's that's very very weird but oh I need to like I need to do a deeper dive into Whoopi.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: Um but like do you know oh oh sorry go on no no no I just think as a child she was like such a huge star to me but I always knew her as someone who was very funny and I never thought about her as a singer but now I'm thinking I need to go and like dig through the Broadway stuff and see her work.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_02: Well here's here's what I was gonna say that was in that that you might find interesting prior to the pandemic she was supposed to be coming over here and reprising the role to to uh play it on stage in system on stage here in London.
• 27:36
  SPEAKER_02: Amazing then the pandemic happened and she dropped out of it completely she said I'm not doing it anymore.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_02: Oh that is so much even still they're doing the show.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Wait they're just doing it with I'm still doing the show maybe she has stuff going on in her life that's like more important I guess I know it's just sad I would have you don't have to do things that people ask you to do yeah it just would have been so good to go see I would have loved it yeah oh my god I would have like flown out but that then you that would have been your first time seeing the original oh is sister act that she's gonna well I guess that makes sense because they can't get all the like cool kids back.
• 28:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah they wouldn't be the sequel that would be really weird um oh apparently she made her West end debut I'm looking at the Wikipedia article now um she made her West end debut as Mother Superior for a limited engagement in 2010.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: That's wild that they would make her play Mother Superior she should just like re But that's the thing they were gonna have her play the original role in this version.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_00: That is crazy.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_02: I can't imagine so I guess yeah yeah it would have it would have sold out instantly as well yeah yes it would have I I just remember a couple of years ago is it a couple of years ago maybe last year she came over and did like and I guess it would have been a couple of years ago now um she came over and did like a couple of like talks just just her Q ⁇ A's like and but it was like$200 to go see it or something.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_02: Oh well it was crazy.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_02: She's incredible she's like done the most that any person without eyebrows could like ever do I still find that so strange every time I see her I'm like oh yeah she doesn't because it's really not noticeable until you pay attention.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's like beautiful how her face is so expressive without eyebrows which I fully believe to be the punctuation of the face like I think like she's missing some exclamation points but somehow she just like does without um she's incredible in this movie like the parts where she goes in and like starts like rapping with the kids and she's like okay time to go inside but she like does it as a rap or like when she like she tells that like yo mama joke and like Yeah it's just like oh and that there's like this one point where like Lauren Hill is being like bad or whatever and she's like oh I you know I'm gonna leave the class like I'm not here for this like how dare you try to teach in this class that's like not supposed to be a class that is has any scholastic value and then she's like okay well if you want to go like don't let the door hit your butt on the way out and I remember as a kid just being like don't let the door hit your butt on the way out like and that was like one of those things that I just like always would one of your kids one of my things it's like I'm Archie and don't let the door hit your butt on the way out such a kid thing to find so funny as well.
• 30:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah I was like she said the word but she's a nun me being rude but without being too rude I can get away with it totally she's so fucking funny and then I think the part that's so beautiful about it too is like the way that she really um the way that she really wins over Lauren Hill's character and the way that she never she never like like takes herself down to the level of the students.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like there is like a level of godliness with which she like interacts with the children.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: That is so like it's so empowering to watch because I'm like I don't know I feel like I've been one of those people who's always been sort of like the bigger person in like so many different situations and it feels so shitty at the time because you're like I just want to hate this person.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be petty and I want to make them feel bad.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: But you really just see like how she wins consistently just by being like kind and like steadfast and like you get the sense that she's like better than these other nuns even though she's like not even a nun you know like she's a black woman in America like yeah and she has to blend to fit in yeah technically although but she still she does it in her own way.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah which is nice I love how there's like that older guy who's like has the glasses like he has a square glasses and he's constantly messing up her name he's like Sister Mary Clement yeah Mr Crisp crispy um crispy yeah and then like in the end he's like he finds out she's like uh a singer and he's like she's a Las Vegas show girl and he's like Sister Mary fake and I'm like oh so he still never learned her name like he never learned her fake name she has a she has a great line at the end of that as well which is just like I am not a show I am not a Vegas show girl I'm a headliner.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_00: I am a headliner I was like yes bitch take your take your flowers show your respect to yourself and it's so funny because they're like there's like that part where like those two students the two white students who are like also there the whole time like it's it's like I think it's like Frank K and then that white girl I don't the one who like struggles to sing Mary had a little lamb they like look at each other.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_02: I didn't write her name down I write his name yeah Frank K.
• 33:18
  SPEAKER_00: It's just so funny.
• 33:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's such a bit like Frank A who by the way is I wrote down Frank K.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_02: I thought it was Frank K.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: No it's like Frank A but it's so stupid he's like so it's like he was such a person in the 90s too as just like the white person oh no he's like trying to be he's such a stereotype trying to be black but like yeah oh I felt for Wesley's no he's so much older than them as well I looked him up and he was like he was like in his 20s.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_00: I think he was like a star like I think that he was like a little he was like a little bit of a 90s darling because I've seen him in a lot really I think I've seen him in a lot of stuff but maybe I don't know he's white you know so like all the white kids probably got like a lot more gigs like before and after the movie but like um yeah he his character is problematic like yeah Wesley is like oh like you've been taking like you took rock and roll like now you're trying to take hip hop and then he was just like I'm gonna take your girl and I'm like yo dude but he's like making a very serious point and like perhaps you should like take a second to reflect on where you're coming from.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_02: That's the other thing as well though is like they they turn like Wesley's like Afrocentric his like black tattoos were joked as well.
• 34:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah they're like yeah but I think I was very 90s.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: I think in the 90s they were always like oh and there's like one of these plaque black power kids like trying to like relive the glory of 10 to 15 years ago like you know what I mean like there's so much like yeah but I don't know I think that it also the um having that character in includes a perspective that is so necessary in this film yeah like and that so even though he like gets made fun of or like talked down for his like he's like supposed to be a caricature it's like actually so awesome that he's there like and like yeah now it's looking back on it it's great that he's there for the perspective and everything about like oh and his fucking singing voice like he oh hey him and Lauren Hill oh so beautiful god like I wonder if we don't see I I wonder if his voice massively changed uh because it was like very high pitched and I wonder if his voice broke and it changed or something yeah like I mean like I like can't reach the note that he's saying like it was just I tried to I was singing along with my TV and I was like oh god that is actually such a high note like it's really high and it it really comes out of nowhere of course because you were a singer as well yeah have you ever had to sing that um I've sang it like in my shower no I meant for for a performance um no I was not in the performance but I I learned the dance because I was just in the room um yeah no I meant have you ever sung it I meant had you ever sung it for a performance not for that performance no never I mean a lot of like these songs are like really Christian and I wasn't Christian so I like never sang any of these songs like like this was my first expo exposure to joyful joyful um oh and I was like after that like it like no one really did it better yeah that is the peak of it to be honest um it is amazing but ugh they're just so good Lauren Hill this feels like a vehicle to make her a star this movie yeah it feels like it's been geared around making her a star because either that or she is just that much of a star that she just stole the show.
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I mean I think that this is probably like something that like I mean she had this movie is just such a like I almost wonder like how oh god I wish I'd have done I I told you I normally stay up all night doing research for this kind of thing but like you know like I want to know like if she had any influence over the storyline because it feels so true to who she is as an artist too and well I'll tell you this um she went to a very nice school in New Jersey and I know this because she went to school with Zach Braff.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh she did?
• 37:50
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah so it doesn't really fit her story.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well when she talks about herself on her records it sounds like it fits her story but interesting I mean like just like listening to like she has a song called um what's it called?
• 38:10
  SPEAKER_00: It's like music is supposed to inspire um but it's basically about like people who like try to like take her music and like or like take elements of her music and like repurpose it on their own and it's like a little bit of a sam or of a a comment on cultural appropriation I think and just like the fact that people are trying to make money off of her music or like take her beat and like put it in their song.
• 38:39
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah I can see that yeah I can definitely see it yeah I know what you mean there.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah I can definitely I can definitely see people using her um but what I mean is just she did she did go to a nice school she did go to like a school like this one I think nicer than this one yeah because yeah um but yeah she I don't know I have so many thoughts on Loradel because just her voice is incredible in this and even her acting is good in this and it makes me sad that she didn't continue acting.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah totally I mean I think that like you see her face like when they're doing there's like a few times where you're just looking at her face.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's the part where she's like sitting in her room like she gets mad and she like walks out and you see her face and then you like see her in her house with her mom who is like oh like you are not like you know you're not to do music um and like it's just like you're just watching her like live and it's just like the way that she moves is so like you see every expression.
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_00: Or there's another part where she's listening to them sing joyful joyful and she's like fuck it's the exact same song like it's not gonna like work.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah um so I yeah I don't know what else to say it's just that like I really believe that like in acting like on screen like 80% of it is your face.
• 40:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like if people want to look at your face then you can be an actor.
• 40:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like if people don't want to look at your and I don't mean that in like a hateful way but like like you don't have to have a beautiful face but you have to have a face that like if you look at it it like does something you know what I mean?
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: And like conveys some meaning and some very small micro expression on your face and like she has that.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely absolutely like I I think she I I don't know it's her life is very strange like outside of in her real life it's just very interesting like she just disappeared completely after like massive massive success yeah and and then like you don't hear about her anymore really you hear about her being late to shows yeah I mean yeah that's that's the one thing you know about her is that she will show up late if she showed she wouldn't right if you were like Lauren Hill I would show up two hours later well no I'm a I'm a I'm like a very punctual person as well so that's so fun no I I work very hard to be punctual.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: New York City has kind of like beat punctuality more into me that being said I was like five minutes late to this but that was pretty good five minutes is fine and also you had forgotten to eat so I like that's fair enough I was so excited about getting ready for this I will I rewatched like some of the scenes you know um so what what what's your favorite scenes out of this thing?
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean obviously all the music scenes are incredible but I going back to like the Lauren Hill being an amazing face actor I love that part where um she's reading letters to a young poet by um what is it like Sister Maria Rilke or something um on her bed and she's like crying um yeah that's like such an awesome scene because then like like she gets like told off by um Whoopi Goldberg and then like Whoopi Goldberg like comes to her apartment and talks to her mom who's like fuck you black nun like you know like who are you?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I think that was such a powerful scene because it shows sort of the way that um the way that Dolores like saw kind of herself in Lauren Hill's character in Rita's character.
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah and I love like intergenerational storytelling like I love the fact that she went to that high school like that also seems like movie magic because it's like you would never like they would never just randomly be at the high school where she went like um but whatever like I love that she went to the high school and then and then she shows up there and she's confused about how it works.
• 43:33
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like how are you confused?
• 43:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like they never come back to it they're never like she's never like oh this is different from when I was here like you know like there's no commentary about that at all.
• 43:43
  SPEAKER_00: So okay I'm gonna talk about some moments that I liked from the film.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um I loved when in the beginning she like does her show and you hear the medley of all these songs that kind of map through generations like they kind of go from like old old Um, and then they like are in the current, like my mama told me you better shop around.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then there's like this loose narrative that's like kind of like connecting the songs together.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, she's like, I came to the city and I learned to hustle.
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then and then they're like, do the hustle.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then like very quickly, it like switches to the next song.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_00: That was so fun.
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_00: And then in the and the nuns like coming in and they're all like sitting in like the back in the like, oh um, you know, like their faces, like how delighted they are.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like it just like kills me.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's really fun.
• 44:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's just do you uh yeah.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna I was gonna say, do you have I have a question for you about this scene?
• 44:43
  SPEAKER_02: Do you understand why they have her like flying through the air and then like it not working?
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, yeah.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_00: I do not understand, and I actually just re-watched it before this because I was trying to figure out why um, you know, like why they are like pulling, like there's these men who are like responsible for her harness, and she's like her harness gets lifted in like the finale numbers, and she's like soaring above the crowd, and then she sees the nuns and she's like, These are my friends, they're gonna come on stage.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: And then these men who are like operating her harness suddenly start pulling up her harness and they're like yanking her in like one direction or another.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: And re-watching it, my only conclusion that I can draw is that perhaps they don't like that she's having the nuns come on stage and they're trying to like take her away through force.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_02: Possibly.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_02: It's either that like my it's either that or it's something I don't remember from the first movie because I haven't seen the first movie in probably 20 years.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_02: And maybe it's like a callback to that.
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know what it is though.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_02: It made no.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: You made yourself sound so old.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_00: Um no, I'm kidding.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_00: I just feel like that's an old thing to say.
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_00: I haven't seen it.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I I'm excited to do that in my 30s, like 20 years ago, blah blah blah.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_02: Um Okay, I'm not that much into my 30s.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: No, I I know.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh you were so young when you saw it 20 years ago.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_00: You were zero years old.
• 46:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um when you saw it 20 years ago.
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_02: Um That's why I didn't understand it.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_00: Also, the other thing that I think is wild about that scene is that the audience does not notice at all.
• 46:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like the audience is delighted.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_00: They think it's like fun.
• 46:34
  SPEAKER_00: She's yelling into the microphone at the guys who are like operating the harness, and the audience is like, Woo, yeah, she's great.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: This is the last night of a long engagement.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um that was also funny to me is like they were like, for the last night of a um exclusive engagement, or whatever the hell he says, like it's like they just happen to come to her last performance and be like, okay, cool, we got you a new gig for like the next eight weeks.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_02: Like, well, that's the other thing.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_02: I think that they have to do that to get her out.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_02: That the story wise, they have to set it up.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_02: So she had so she has nothing, so she's been doing well, but she has nothing coming up.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, exactly.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like, otherwise, it makes absolutely no sense.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, oh man, my vacation started.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like they just have to subtly drop that little thing in there.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um so anyway, that's funny.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_00: And the other thing that I love is that she immediately takes them off the stage.
• 47:33
  SPEAKER_00: She like brings them to her back room and she takes off her wig.
• 47:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Yes, thank you.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I love that like this, you know, they're showing kind of like who she is on stage and who she can be, like, off stage, or like not that those are like two different things, but I'm sure like I just think the amount of representation in mainstream media of black women wearing wigs, like was not great at that time.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: And I remember, I mean, I have an ex-boyfriend who just had fully no idea that black women's hair was just not like did not grow out of their heads braided, so like whatever, it's fine.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: We broke up.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_02: Um but like it was it was exciting to see like her offstage persona and it's it's really interesting you say that about um it being like good representation for the time because I remember it being a very, very big deal when Viola Davis did it in how to get away with murder.
• 48:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I remember that too.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_02: And and that that's look how long later that was as well.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_02: It's like you know, nearly 30 years later.
• 48:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I mean I think like I don't know, like I think there is so much content from the 90s that was really so progressive that it's like almost more progressive than it is now.
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like now I don't even think I would see this movie with like Whoopi Goldberg in the lead.
• 48:51
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, if it was Whoopi Goldberg, right, like then fine.
• 48:55
  SPEAKER_00: But like the fact is that like, you know, I probably wouldn't see this same movie like be as successful or be as like part of the cult public consciousness if it had like so many dark-skinned people in the lead.
• 49:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like right now, yeah, people are just obsessed with like having ethnically ambiguous people, which isn't to say that um I don't love ethnically ambiguous people, la la la.
• 49:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't love you, but um there is something to say that like there are like more dark-skinned faces in Hollywood in '92 than there are in 2021.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's really it's it's true.
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_02: Like, it's bad.
• 49:37
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, like it's homogenizing everyone, isn't it?
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_02: Almost.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: I also just feel like this movie would have been like a message movie today.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like it would be so over the top.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_02: Like it would be like that's what I yeah, that that's what I mean about that.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_02: This was not even today.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_02: You say that to not even but I think like after this came you know Dangerous Minds and Did it come after it?
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, it would have come after it.
• 50:03
  SPEAKER_02: It would have been 95.
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_00: What's Dangerous Minds tell me?
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not a film scholar.
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_02: I mean, Dangerous Minds is Michelle Pfeiffer going into an inner city school and Oh god.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it was the it was all of those things of like they go into the inner city school and they save them, and then there's like uh so there's that, and then there was um Freedom Freedom Writers with Hillary Swank.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: Same kind of food.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_02: Oh god.
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_02: There's there's a lot of them.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_00: That sucks.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_02: But that's what I mean of like, I'm glad that it was Whoopi Goldberg in this one.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I didn't know that this was part of a tradition of like I mean, I I see it as kind of like a what's that movie with Will with Robin Williams?
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like Goodwill Hunter Dead Poet Society.
• 50:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Dead Poet Society.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's like the good version of that.
• 50:55
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, not to shade.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: Dead Poet Society is fun.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_00: I it's fun.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_00: Actually, that's gonna be like one of my that might be like the one I say.
• 51:02
  SPEAKER_00: But um, yeah, I one of the films that I'm like not that into that everyone loves, but um yeah, like I just think that there's such a like authenticity with which this is like deployed, like the way that everybody just gets to like be themselves and it doesn't feel as message-y as something we would see now.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_02: Um completely.
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_00: But oh, the other thing I thought was funny is when she was like, They're nuns, God represents them.
• 51:33
  SPEAKER_00: Like her agent is trying to um is like, I want to sign you all.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have an agent?
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_00: And it's really funny because you're like, These are nuns.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_00: And she's like, they're nuns, God represents them.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um and I yeah, I just think like there's so many like awesome little moments in this film, and they're so like it's like they're not even like bits, but they're just like sweet moments that are funny.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um I think like one line that I really like, it's so dumb.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_02: But they um when they foot when she first goes to teach them, and they're like, we were told uh we took this because it's a bird course, because it means we we fly right through it.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_02: And they just like dumb, but it's like it's so funny, yeah.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: And every everyone's just like, yeah, like it's a bird course.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I also I love that the you can see, like, because I feel like it would be so easy to like, and there is like this one hammy moment that I fucking hate when they put like the glue on her chair and then she like has to reach the game.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: Comes right after that, yeah.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_00: And I hate that because I'm like, why would you do that?
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's just like not even fun.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, okay, so you're gonna make it so that her pants rip.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's that's disgusting.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you're perverts, but like I don't I don't get why that was like such a thing at that time where it was like, oh, like these kids are bad, they're gonna be mean to the teacher and like they're gonna humiliate her.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_02: Also, they only do one thing ever to her and then they're immediately on board with her.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_02: Like just don't do it, don't do it at all, or do it more than once.
• 53:09
  SPEAKER_02: Don't do it once and have that be here.
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it is like truly awful what they I mean, it's just like it's mean, you know.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's it's too mean for these for who these kids are.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's like it's unbelievable these kids are like that.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_00: Because then when you actually get to know who like even in the scene before that, and in all the scenes after that, each kid has like their own perspective on the music class.
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's never like a time when they're all unified except when they're all playing that prank, or except when they sing that like collard greens thing, um, like where they're like singing together, obviously.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because you see that like Sketch, like the kid who like is like obviously working as well as going to school and is like he's like he's like, oh, they call me sketch because I do sketches.
• 53:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, you were gonna say.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_02: I was gonna say that that I th it's a thing that I wish they'd expanded on more if they were gonna do that with him as well, because that's his his uh story seems so interesting.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like that I think probably like as somebody who has now written one screenplay, like I feel like he's one of those characters that probably had more backstory to him that ended up getting cut out because Yeah, it's such a shame though.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and it's just so beautiful how like that's maybe her first interaction with the students is like her talking to this kid, and he drops his sketches and he's like, Oh, it's like sorry, and she's like, I like these, like these are good, but like stay awake in my class.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_00: And like, I think that that's just like such a beautiful moment is like the teacher is validating you, respecting who you are as a person, but also asking you to do better, versus like the kind of teaching that is more heavily represented by Catholic schools, which is like you're bad because you did this thing during school.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_02: You're bad if you don't follow everything my do and say.
• 55:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you get you really get just such a strong sense for who she is as a person and who she is as an educator.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um there's that other nice moment with the uh the girl who doesn't know Mary had a little lamb.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: So funny.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's funny and it's also very sweet.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Maybe Mary had a dog.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um yeah.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_02: But she's just basically like, we are not gonna, we are not gonna insult her because she doesn't know this.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_02: Like you don't know her story, you don't know like why she doesn't know this.
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's such a beautiful moment.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_00: Like there are so many just like beautiful, oh, and the other girl who sings Mary had a little lamb, and everyone's like, that was beautiful.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like everyone is like affirming her in that moment, and I think that that's like what is so beautiful about like this movie is that it shows it's like this isn't the kind this isn't a movie about whiteness, it's a movie about blackness, and it's a movie about these spaces that are created when like black people take the lead, and they're creating a space that is like affirming, a a space that is like funny, like shady, like people are being honest about how they feel, and they're like giving instant, like they're giving feedback in the moment, and it isn't top-down the way that like we're used to seeing education.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that it's powerful to see like so.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_00: I you know, like I work in programming for youth, um and like seeing that as a young person and seeing the the distance between what that was and what I was receiving, like made me feel like more, you know, like it made me feel seen, even though I wasn't like in the classroom singing Mary Had a Little Lamb with them.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like I think that was so powerful for me to like have that be just an example of something that is possible, even if it was not something that was happening in my own life.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_02: I know I know exactly what you're saying there, actually, as well.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_02: I completely relate to that.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um it is just like so I don't know.
• 57:10
  SPEAKER_02: It's weird it's weird how like it any kind of representation at that time was enough for us.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, sure.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_02: It's I mean I feel like it still is now like you know what I mean, like but it's not that it's enough, it's just any kind of representation, it's just like we we're like thriving to have it.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's so nice to see.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_02: If it's not even if it's not necessarily us, it's it's something other than the than just like the same white person on the screen all the time.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh you mean like as like an Indian child seeing that.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, totally.
• 57:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like I think like I mean like there was absolutely no narrative that was like happening with brown people that was similar at the time.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: But I think that like seeing or now or now, like, or maybe will ever, but like I yeah, I think that like it was so exciting to see people who weren't white on screen moving in ways that were counter to whiteness.
• 58:14
  SPEAKER_00: And I think still so many brown people, like in a nice way, but in also a stressful way, like engage with black culture in that way where they're like, oh, like, you know, this is a counterculture to like the white culture.
• 58:28
  SPEAKER_00: But I do, you know, as an Indian person, I do kind of like feel a way about the fact that like it feels like, and I mean, like this goes into the conversation about like Asianness and the space we take up, like there does feel often like there's like, you know, like if you're a brown person or like if you're like you know an Asian person, like you align with like white culture or you align with like black culture, like which is like not the truth, but is like something that like I see like when I like look at celebrities, or I see when I like look at people who are like doing the things that I want to do, like singing or like making content.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like you see you have like you know, like Toronto Indians like Lily Singh who speak like black people and like are rappers, and like then you see like just you know, you see like every like whitewashed Indian who like you know listens to Vampire Weekend.
• 59:27
  SPEAKER_00: Like I listen to Vampire Weekend, I'm not shading Vampire Weekend at all.
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_00: But like, yeah.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_02: My last concert.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_00: Was it your last concert?
• 59:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I okay.
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_00: I love Vampire Weekend.
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm not I'm not at all shading them.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I think that they're good.
• 59:40
  SPEAKER_00: No, but I know I know what you're doing, so like it's not even like it's not.
• 59:45
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's funny.
• 59:46
  SPEAKER_02: No, it's just funny that you brought them up out of everyone.
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was the first thing that came to mind.
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I do love Vampire Weekend.
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_02: It's accurate, it's accurate as well, though.
• 59:54
  SPEAKER_02: I know what you're saying.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_00: There's yeah, and I I do think that there is there are moments for me that I'm just like, oh, like, you know, like this is and isn't my culture, right?
• 1:00:05
  SPEAKER_00: Like a lot of American culture is and isn't my culture.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Sister Act 2 is like something that was cultural in my household because of the way that me and my sister um like acted to God, fuck me.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: Um but we like, you know, like we really engaged with it as a film and it saw us in a way that like other films didn't, because we were also like people who would sing and dance in the household.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_00: We were also like, you know, like my family is one where it's like, hey, Rushi, sing Mary Had a Little Lamb, and then I would sing it, and then it'd be like, okay, Chet, that's my brother's name.
• 1:00:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, sing that song you sang for choir that one time.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: We want to hear it.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, we are like a family that's kind of like that.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_00: And so seeing like other people be like that on screen was amazing.
• 1:00:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I wasn't gonna be able to watch a white movie where people did that on screen.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_00: Those people aren't like us the way that like black people are like us.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I know exactly what you're saying there.
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_02: I yeah, it's very much so.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_02: I I feel like I always tended to avoid like the white-led shows and movies and everything like that, and gravitated towards everyone else when growing up as well, and I didn't realize I wasn't conscious of what I was doing there.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_02: But like now looking back on it, it's very obvious like what the reason was behind that.
• 1:01:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it it was really I mean, I still feel so like when I see representation that's not of the mainstream in a show, like I'm so excited to encounter it, you know.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's I still feel seen by anything that's not the mainstream narrative, you know, even if I don't fully relate to what's happening with these characters or what their lifestyles or customs are, like I can feel like the that like surviving as an other throughout like those kinds of those kinds of narratives.
• 1:02:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um also like you're so lucky because you got like like I feel like there's so much more Indian British media than there is like Indian American media.
• 1:02:16
  SPEAKER_02: Um I guess I mean I don't know there's like Indian culture is kind of like a little bit further along here than it is in America, it feels like I feel it feels uh in terms of I don't know, I don't even know.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know, it's a little bit more ingrained in terms because we have I don't know, I think the food thing helps here.
• 1:02:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's lots of like I remember going to like Sainsbury's, right?
• 1:02:50
  SPEAKER_00: And that's like a place where you can get like like there would be like chicken tikka masala sandwiches or like chicken duri sandwiches.
• 1:02:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, well, chicken tikka is the the most popular takeaway dish in uh takeout dish in the entire UK.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know that is a colonial construct of food, right?
• 1:03:10
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I know, I'm fully aware.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, thank you.
• 1:03:12
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, people don't know that.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like people are like Yeah, I know you know, sorry, you would know.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_02: Of course I know that.
• 1:03:21
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like hiding behind my round microphone right now.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't mean to I did not mean to assume that you did not know that fact.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_00: But uh why but it is funny because people oh god, I grew up in Wisconsin, which is like very extremely white.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_02: Cheese town or cheese, whatever.
• 1:03:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, cheese.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_00: It is cheese, it's cheese town.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um we also have two lakes.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_00: Big fan.
• 1:03:46
  SPEAKER_02: Um two lakes, well, lucky.
• 1:03:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they actually um kind of like are like nuzzling the city on either side.
• 1:03:53
  SPEAKER_00: So the city is like an like or like the downtown of the city is an isthmus.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_00: So there's like two lakes on either side of it.
• 1:04:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um traffic is very bad at five o'clock, but it's not as bad as it is in New York.
• 1:04:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, so like just interacting with whiteness and having so many people be like, oh, I love chicken tikka masala.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like everyone's fave dish.
• 1:04:16
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm always like, you know that that's like not like a real dish, right?
• 1:04:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's like like it is a real dish now, but like it was created for the palette of colonialism.
• 1:04:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's kind of like you know, like a similar but like worse situation when it comes to American Chinese food.
• 1:04:33
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_02: Where which I hate as well.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_02: I don't I don't enjoy American Chinese food.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_00: There are moments, it has its moments for me.
• 1:04:40
  SPEAKER_00: I like the mustard sauce.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_02: Um I just think I don't know, it's it's very different to UK Chinese food.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, really?
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like Chinese food is very different everywhere because also in India, which I'm I don't know if you've experienced Indian Chinese food.
• 1:04:57
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's I mean, it's like if Indian people made Chinese food.
• 1:05:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like if that's like what it tastes like.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um and it's really good.
• 1:05:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's like doesn't taste like the Chinese food here.
• 1:05:10
  SPEAKER_00: And it probably doesn't taste like the Chinese food in China either.
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_02: Oh um What I was gonna say.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_02: Oh yeah, what I found interesting was that you um you said you like uh you told me off camera or whatever, like you told me you um grew up you were born in uh not born, but you like lived in Bolton as well, which is like very funny to see you like go from Bolton, which is very Indian, to Yeah, I have absolutely no memories of Bolton except for the one where I was watching Anna Green Gables with my sister.
• 1:05:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um I actually could not talk when I lived in Bolton, but um weirdly have a memory of a TV show or like a movie.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_00: Um that happens, yeah.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_00: But I um yeah, I was born in New Delhi and I lived in Bolton.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_00: In briefly with my parents.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_00: My dad was doing his medical boards in Britain, and then we moved to the US and we were in Illinois and then Wisconsin.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: Very boring.
• 1:06:10
  SPEAKER_02: But um that's like my I just found that like the drug supposition very interesting because it was like very different both places.
• 1:06:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I kind of have like a mixed palette of like different cultural influences that at the same time like don't feel like they mean very much because they happen very early in life, but then it's like because they happen so early in life, it's like maybe they mean a lot, you know.
• 1:06:35
  SPEAKER_02: I've got a different experience of like I grew up in a very mixed place in London, and then we moved to like the suburbs of like in Hertfordshire, which is just like everyone is white, and I stood out suddenly.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_00: You stood out, that's wild.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I I mean you are brown, like it's not like you're not brown, it's like I've also been inside for a year and a whatever.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like I've become very pale.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_02: Um I've been inside for a year and I live in England.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_02: Like it is what it is.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_00: I feel that.
• 1:07:13
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, um, I for I also forgot to mention what this movie has as a rating.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_02: So it has 19%.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: That is so fucking wrong.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's so low.
• 1:07:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's a travesty.
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_00: It is and also weirdly, like the first movie had really high ratings.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_00: Um I just checked.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um the second movie didn't have very good ratings at all.
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: It had a higher audience score, I think.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_02: But second one's got a 61% audience score.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_00: That's like is that bad?
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:07:46
  SPEAKER_00: You're the one who knows more about the rotten ecosystem than I do.
• 1:07:50
  SPEAKER_02: That's about where I'd put it though.
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_02: I'd put it around there.
• 1:07:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's not a bad movie.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_00: Do you think it's a like a do you not think it's a good movie?
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's I want to know what you think.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_00: Oh no, what if I hate you after this?
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_02: I love the music.
• 1:08:07
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:08:08
  SPEAKER_02: I think it's a fun movie.
• 1:08:10
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think it's I don't think story-wise it's that strong.
• 1:08:15
  SPEAKER_02: Other than that.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_00: Tell me why.
• 1:08:17
  SPEAKER_02: I still enjoy the movie.
• 1:08:19
  SPEAKER_02: Do you think it feels rushed?
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_00: It does feel a little rushed.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: They are suddenly the stage of the stuff.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's a bunch of scenes that are very unnecessary as well.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like what?
• 1:08:32
  SPEAKER_02: Okay, we've talked we kind of talked about them, but like uh the uh any all the prank stuff.
• 1:08:37
  unknown: Yeah.
• 1:08:38
  SPEAKER_02: And the weird sausage scene.
• 1:08:41
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what's the sauce?
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the thing where they like bring the sausage and they're like, oh, he eats.
• 1:08:45
  SPEAKER_02: Why is that guy why is it why do they build up this whole thing about him like being a guy that makes sausages all the time for them to eat and then they just drop leave it?
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: It establishes his character.
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_00: But but he sucks.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like sausage.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_00: Sausage is like okay.
• 1:09:01
  SPEAKER_00: As a Wisconsinite, I can't I can't sneeze at sausage, but yeah, that you're right.
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: I think that there were a few scenes in this movie that were draggy.
• 1:09:12
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't know if they would have been draggy for the audience that we would have been in '92.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_00: And by we I mean somebody my age in '92, but like I felt that like I was like, oh, is this scene still going on?
• 1:09:27
  SPEAKER_00: And then I would like rewind it and be like, did I miss something?
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_00: And then truly, I had not missed anything, and I was just like, there was like extra air that I'm not used to when I watch stuff anymore because we're like used to just fast, fast, fast.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_00: Like dialogue, dialogue, dialogue.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_00: Next scene.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know.
• 1:09:45
  SPEAKER_02: Are you someone that just like needs to watch very short movies as well?
• 1:09:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm one of those people who gets stressed out if you like want to watch a two-hour movie with me.
• 1:09:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, if you're like, oh, you have to see this, and then I'm like, okay, like I need to know, like, am I gonna love it the entire time or am I gonna be like bored for like for example?
• 1:10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um um people have been trying to like my partner was trying to get me to watch Guardians of the Galaxy because people are trying to get me into um Marvel Universe because I love have you seen any of them?
• 1:10:17
  SPEAKER_02: I have seen Wandavision, Ant-Man, um how did you know what was going on in Wandavision?
• 1:10:27
  SPEAKER_00: I've seen I think I've seen one other one.
• 1:10:30
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:10:31
  SPEAKER_00: No, obviously I've seen Black Panther.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um Okay.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_00: And between like maybe those three, maybe there's another one that I haven't like thought about as being a Marvel movie.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, um, I understood it partially because the people I was with understood it, and so they were reacting.
• 1:10:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um also, as I told you, I you know, I read or I read about it somewhat, but I also was trying to avoid the spoilers because I was like, you know, I was worried that if I knew more about what was going on in the comics, it was gonna like spoil plot lines.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't think it actually did too much of that.
• 1:11:06
  SPEAKER_02: Um no, I think, yeah, because people were kind of like wrong as well a lot of the time.
• 1:11:11
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, they'll kind of work it out.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I read the Miss Marvel comic book.
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's like I'm a weird person where I'm like, oh, like if I'm interested in it, like I'll watch it, but like if I'm not interested, like there's a lot of stuff in the Marvel universe.
• 1:11:24
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and I watched a bunch of the Spider-Mans.
• 1:11:26
  SPEAKER_00: Um Right.
• 1:11:28
  SPEAKER_00: Especially um the Spider-Verse one, which was so good.
• 1:11:32
  SPEAKER_02: Just That's amazing, so incredible.
• 1:11:33
  SPEAKER_00: The animals so beautiful, and like the way that they play with time and comics at the same time.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_00: It's like you put comics to time and music.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 1:11:44
  SPEAKER_00: There's just so many dimensions to it.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like watching it as like a uh I'm so like nerdy about my experience of art and like the way that like you know, like the time in which you tell a story changes the story and like the how the music changes the like feeling of the thing, whatever.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:12:01
  SPEAKER_00: Um but you're a filmmaker.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_00: I I mean I'm a music maker, but I think that like or like maybe I'm yeah, like I'm I'm a creator, and so I think that as a musician who's also a creator, like the time and like this like yeah, the timestamp matters a lot to me for some reason.
• 1:12:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like the pace at which you receive the information is really important for me.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: I also have ADHD, so that's also part of it.
• 1:12:25
  SPEAKER_02: Um that that makes sense now where you can't sit and watch a movie for two hours.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_00: I also well, I used to get really stressed out by YouTube videos, because remember when like I I'm so glad this like doesn't happen so much anymore.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_00: But when you'll be like in a group of people and people be like, Have you seen this video?
• 1:12:41
  SPEAKER_00: And then people will be like, Oh my god, this video is great.
• 1:12:43
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'm like, I'm never that into the videos that people want to talk about.
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like they're never great.
• 1:12:47
  SPEAKER_00: It never hits me the same way that it hit them.
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_00: And like I I don't and perhaps if they like revealed some of the context around the how they experienced it, I would like maybe understand it more.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_00: But like I feel very like it's very anxiety-inducing for me to do that kind of thing where it's like, let's all share like clips together.
• 1:13:04
  SPEAKER_02: Because they're also half-sitting watching, like seeing your reactions as well.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and then they're watching you watch it, and you're like, Oh my god, oh my god, am I watching this the right way?
• 1:13:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and maybe am I performing enthusiasm the way that I'm supposed to?
• 1:13:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to listen to the fake smile on your face.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_00: Ah, yeah.
• 1:13:21
  SPEAKER_00: So that's um but that is all to say that those scenes dragged.
• 1:13:27
  SPEAKER_00: All the scenes were like the old people talked when it was.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Whenever there was a man in the scene who wasn't under 20, I was not into the scene.
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_00: Pretty much.
• 1:13:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I completely agree.
• 1:13:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think those are the worst scenes.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_00: But and I also do I feel it like it feels very contrived.
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, as soon as like they hear, like as soon as the students find out that the school might be closing down, suddenly they're really on board with this choir.
• 1:13:53
  SPEAKER_02: Like, they're like Okay, yes, you've just reminded me of something, but yeah, go on, go on, sorry.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like I mean they just like overhear it and they're like, oh, well, let's just let's just like give this choir thing a chance.
• 1:14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I don't know.
• 1:14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like, we don't want to, you know, but I and like just the way that they're on board is weird.
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like they could have like gotten on board and I would have believed it, but maybe if they had been like, oh man, I'm processing a lot right now.
• 1:14:15
  SPEAKER_00: They're trying to close the school.
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_00: Also, like we alienated this teacher, and she's just trying to like help, like, you know, like they got there so quickly, and it just didn't feel human to me.
• 1:14:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I I I know what you're saying.
• 1:14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it definitely is it's not that's that's one of the reasons I'm like it's not story-wise, it's not great, I don't think.
• 1:14:37
  SPEAKER_02: And it's like, but the other thing is as well that you're reminding me of is that they overhear the amount of times people overhear something going on.
• 1:14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they overhear something really important.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_02: Like nobody like I think it's three times I counted that it happens in this movie.
• 1:14:52
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it is a fantastic cinematic device.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_02: I'll let it slide once.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_00: You know what?
• 1:15:02
  SPEAKER_00: I can have it three.
• 1:15:03
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, like, I can believe that everyone is nosy, right?
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, everyone's nosy.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_02: Not but to the to overhear something like to like have the.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_00: Are you not the kind of person that hears an important conversation and like wants to know what it's about?
• 1:15:22
  SPEAKER_02: I'm not I don't lean towards the door.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm a leaner.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like a okay, wait a second.
• 1:15:28
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and I'll also do the thing where I pause my headphones for a second.
• 1:15:32
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm like in plain sight.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_02: I'll admit that.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:39
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think I just freaked out the person who's in this room.
• 1:15:44
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_00: I've never listened to your therapy.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um, okay.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the the therapy thing is also really stressful to me because I know that everybody's human nature is to like listen to conversations and nothing is more interesting than listen to someone do therapy.
• 1:16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, so I'm very like play music and like have there be a song going on and like like talk in a quiet voice and do your therapy on a patio because it's like less public in that situation than if you're in your seems so much more public though on the patio.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_00: If you're among the people that you're going to therapy about, like you know what I mean.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_00: That's the hard thing about this pandemic.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's like everyone needs therapy for their living situation, but like everyone's in their living situation where they're doing the therapy.
• 1:16:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah.
• 1:16:34
  SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
• 1:16:37
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's a whole weird time to be living.
• 1:16:44
  SPEAKER_02: Um sorry, I'm trying to think how to transition that.
• 1:16:48
  SPEAKER_00: What a time to be alive.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_02: What a time to be alive, yeah.
• 1:16:52
  SPEAKER_02: So do you have any final thoughts on Sister Act before we Sister Act 2 before we move on to the final um segment?
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I wish I had done more research on this.
• 1:17:02
  SPEAKER_02: Um it is You don't have to be like a scholar in Sister Act 2.
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's I know, but you know what I do?
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_00: Um, no, it's just like w we can do like an episode later where I um have become a sister act scholar.
• 1:17:15
  SPEAKER_00: And okay, um straight thoughts.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, on the Patreon episode.
• 1:17:21
  SPEAKER_00: Subscribe to the Patreon, everybody.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um so I think that it is funny to me that Maggie Smith has been like a hundred year old, like a hundred years old for 30 years.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like she plays the oldest person in like everything, and she's like now like way older, and she's still like you know, she's still at it.
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, love that for her.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think that there was this really funny line where they like guilt trip her, and then um she's like, Oh, I'm Catholic.
• 1:17:58
  SPEAKER_00: I would never use guilt to like, and it's just such a dry line that I almost missed it, but like she's like, I would never use guilt.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_00: She delivers it so like sincerely as though you think that she but like the subtext there is obviously you know that Catholics are always guilt tripping you.
• 1:18:18
  SPEAKER_02: Um also she's like very it's very intra clear that she was like for kind of forced to come back for like anything possible, such like she's she's not in any scenes, she's so she's in it for such a short amount of time at the start and the finish.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because she's like kind of blackmailing her um or something from the first movie that I don't understand.
• 1:18:43
  SPEAKER_00: But um I think also like any kind of cinematic like weirdness, like in some ways I was able to like be like, oh, I guess that was addressed in the first movie.
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I guess in the first movie we established that everyone has supersonic hearing in this universe.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um everyone's nosy, everyone is nosy.
• 1:19:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just it's it's the USA, it's just like today, but like everyone is extra nosy and extra good at hearing.
• 1:19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and then I think the other thing that I wanted to talk about was okay, one thing, heartbreaking, the fact that the school is less valuable than a parking lot.
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's like there's many things like that today that are still echoing, like people turning community space in New York into parking lots or like boutique, like cupcake shops, or like whatever the hell is like ruining our neighborhoods, or making a yoga studio that's run by white people and like only has white teachers, and like the amount of yoga studios I saw last time I was there is ridiculous.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just like it sucks that like yoga has become a force of gentrification.
• 1:19:51
  SPEAKER_00: I feel wrong about this.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um and like I also love this line.
• 1:19:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um I think it's said by Maggie Smith.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_00: She said, Oh yeah, because she's always flirting with the like other like the what's his name?
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like Father Maurice or something, the guy who runs the school.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_00: They're constantly flirting, like they are definitely fucking.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_00: Um and she was like She is a nun.
• 1:20:19
  SPEAKER_00: She's a nun, and she she's getting some.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but like the the guy is like he's like, oh, she's so radical.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_00: And then like she's like, Oh, I think the word radical was applied to us in my day.
• 1:20:34
  SPEAKER_00: And like it's like also, I also don't know why she's British.
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think that was probably ever addressed in the movie franchise.
• 1:20:42
  SPEAKER_00: Because like, I can't remember, why is she British?
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_00: I don't get it.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, maybe they address it like when they introduce her in the first movie, but like I don't get it.
• 1:20:50
  SPEAKER_00: But um I also love that she says that disruption is the way that Sister Mary Clarence communicates.
• 1:20:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, that's such a beautiful like way of explaining her character, and also like, you know, like also like black women activists, like and like honestly, like a lot of the black power I want black power struggles, but not like power struggles.
• 1:21:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um like disruption is a means of communication for people who are oppressed, and like disrupting like the classroom is exactly how she's gonna get to these students, right?
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like because they're also in they're also speaking in this language of disruption.
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_00: So like it makes sense.
• 1:21:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um and like the fact that they had to like disrupt the you know, like they had to like disrupt the fact that there's like a nun, like you know, like they they couldn't have a nun.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because if she had been a nun, she wouldn't have been able to do this, she wouldn't have been able to see outside of the system and the way that she works.
• 1:21:52
  SPEAKER_00: So like I mean, in that way, like as much as like it's like that's why I said like I don't think it is a white savior narrative, because like yes, like the white people recognize the need for Dolores to come in, like it's Dolores and who she is that really like makes all this stuff happen.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, yeah, I think those were all my points.
• 1:22:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the other thing that I think I was going to talk about is like that part where the two white kids look at each other and they're like, Vegas.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_02: Um Vegas.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's right.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_00: And they break the fourth wall.
• 1:22:25
  SPEAKER_00: And um, I was watching this with my Do they break the fourth wall?
• 1:22:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they look at the camera in that second.
• 1:22:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's like the the only time someone looks in the camera is like when they like miss that.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_00: They like they're like Vegas, and then they just like look at the camera because like who are they talking to?
• 1:22:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, who are they talking to?
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_02: I thought they were talking to each other.
• 1:22:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it's so funny.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_00: And my my roommate, um, who's also a comedian, um they like were like, oh my god, they broke the fourth wall, like how annoying.
• 1:22:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, they were like, oh, this is so 90s.
• 1:22:59
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, honestly, it was so dope in the 90s when people would break the fourth wall in like the third act, because as an audience member, you'd be like, Yeah, I agree.
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_00: That is like shocking.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like, like it it felt like satisfying after getting to know these people that then they would talk to you.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_02: Like wearing on it too.
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_02: So moving on to the final segment then.
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_02: Alright.
• 1:23:28
  SPEAKER_02: And we'll make we'll make this brief, we'll keep this brief.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_02: Um, do you have if you can, you just rolled your eyes to me like No no no no no.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_00: I just rolled my eyes to look at the time.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 1:23:38
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, okay, yeah.
• 1:23:39
  SPEAKER_02: Um, yeah, so do you have a movie that's the reverse of this?
• 1:23:45
  SPEAKER_02: And you were saying something earlier about this.
• 1:23:46
  SPEAKER_02: I don't want to stick in your eyes.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_00: I was saying Dead Poet Society, and I will say that I do love that movie, but like whenever I think about it, I'm just like, oh, those white men got empowered.
• 1:23:55
  SPEAKER_00: But like also, like, it's probably good that like I think that they got empowered through poetry and like they were unlearning their toxic masculinity.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_00: Um so maybe that's not my choice.
• 1:24:05
  SPEAKER_00: I had something in my head earlier um to decide like what's like not that good of a m- Oh, everybody probably fucking says this, but like Avatar, whatever.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like not a good movie.
• 1:24:18
  SPEAKER_00: There's nothing.
• 1:24:19
  SPEAKER_02: It was loved as well at the time.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_00: It was so loved.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone to s went to see it.
• 1:24:23
  SPEAKER_00: People saw it multiple times.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_00: I was not a fan.
• 1:24:27
  SPEAKER_02: Um were you ever a fan of it?
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_02: Or were you hateful?
• 1:24:30
  SPEAKER_02: No, watching short.
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_00: I was like into the story the whole time.
• 1:24:35
  SPEAKER_00: But I still just like I felt like I was into the story in that I was like interested, and I liked the way that they somehow made it seem like it was novel when it was really just like another white savior narrative, but just like in this case, like the you know, the indigenous people are also aliens.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah, I think I mean obviously the effects were like stunning.
• 1:24:58
  SPEAKER_00: I will never watch it again.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I have no interest in spending any time with that main character.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm so long.
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_00: There's like, I'm just it's not compelling.
• 1:25:07
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's not compelling for me to watch like white men rescue people and like fall in love with like ethnic women or like like exotic women.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_00: Like there's always like an exotic woman, and it's like you win her over, and then you win over the whole culture, and it's like that's not how it works, but like I mean it's the story of Pocahontas, isn't it?
• 1:25:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's just like that, but yeah, totally.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a story that's like as old as like you know, cinema, right?
• 1:25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, there's so many stories that are like that, and they're so problematic and like fetishizing, and like they really lead to the like men coming up to me in bars and telling me that my name is exotic.
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like it's like it's definitely like not and not even just men.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I've definitely had women women being like, oh, like I'm looking for my Priyanka Chopra, and I'm like, oh well that I don't know where she is.
• 1:26:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think she's married, like, I don't know.
• 1:26:04
  SPEAKER_00: But like yeah, like I think it's just so gross, and there's so many movies like that that are kind of gross.
• 1:26:11
  SPEAKER_02: Um Avatar is a gross movie though, and I I don't understand.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_02: I don't think this next one's gonna do well.
• 1:26:18
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, there's another one?
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh god.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, there's more than another one.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_02: He is making I believe seven of them or something.
• 1:26:28
  SPEAKER_00: Is he gonna be like 90 by the time the third one's out?
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_00: Like, didn't it take a look at the bigger?
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_02: He's filmed two and three back to back, I believe.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_02: I believe he's filmed two and three bags to back.
• 1:26:37
  SPEAKER_00: Hollywood is too efficient these days.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_02: But at the same time, it still took him twelve years to get to the second one.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_00: So Yeah, so whatever.
• 1:26:46
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he'll just run out the clock on this one too.
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_02: I I'm hoping two and three do badly, so he'll be like, they'll be like, no, we don't want to make any more.
• 1:26:54
  SPEAKER_00: What if they like redeem the narrative the way that Frozen 2 did?
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_00: Did you see Frozen 2?
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_02: No.
• 1:26:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my god.
• 1:27:00
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that's a good movie.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_00: You should watch it.
• 1:27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Um I can't tell you the spoilers.
• 1:27:05
  SPEAKER_00: I cannot tell you the spoilers.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_00: Um okay, we can unpack the fact that you don't like Frozen later, but it's okay.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Um but I think you should watch Frozen 2, and I would just love to know what you think about it, just like as a you know, as a as a person who cares about film.
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_02: So can I I I will explain why I don't like Frozen though.
• 1:27:24
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 1:27:25
  SPEAKER_02: I have a valid reason.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_02: It's nothing to do with the movie itself.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_02: It's it's because when it came out, I was working as an English teacher in Japan, and the movie was at the height of fame, like everyone was always singing all of the songs in class, and I got so sick of it that I just hated the movie since then.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, that makes sense.
• 1:27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Um I will say that at the time um I was interacting with children who had like a like one of those dolls that you push.
• 1:28:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it like sings.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_00: So I also um became very sick of Let It Go, but um I still love it.
• 1:28:07
  SPEAKER_00: I still think it's great, but as a musician, I can't like not like it because I think that the music is.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_02: Oh, I know the music is good.
• 1:28:14
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's good.
• 1:28:15
  SPEAKER_00: I know it's good music.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_00: And then Frozen 2 is fantastic, so you should really check it out.
• 1:28:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like honestly.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like throw out your preconceived notions and just watch it.
• 1:28:26
  SPEAKER_00: And then I'll be like, Oh, I didn't have any preconceived notions about it.
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_02: I was just like, uh I don't have any like desire to see it more than anything.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_00: So Frozen 2 does something that is like controverse, like in terms of like race and ethnicity.
• 1:28:44
  SPEAKER_00: So like I think I'd be interested to know what you think of that.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_02: That intrigues me now.
• 1:28:50
  SPEAKER_00: Is that a good way to sell it to you?
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28:52
  SPEAKER_00: And also the music is good, but like truly like the music is also like a step more complicated, which I also really appreciate.
• 1:28:59
  SPEAKER_00: Like it's like they sort of like did a sequel in terms of music too.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_02: Mmm.
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_02: Cool.
• 1:29:06
  SPEAKER_02: I'm gonna have to watch it now.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_02: You have sold me on that.
• 1:29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yay! Yay! It's on Disney Plus, I think.
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's on Disney Plus.
• 1:29:14
  SPEAKER_02: Just like Sister Act 2.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_00: Just like Sister Act 2.
• 1:29:18
  SPEAKER_00: Winking at the camera.
• 1:29:19
  SPEAKER_02: Um cool.
• 1:29:21
  SPEAKER_02: So this has been really fun.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_02: Um do you have anything you want to promote?
• 1:29:25
  SPEAKER_02: And how can we find you online?
• 1:29:27
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so you can find me at Arushi Fire.
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's my name with two A's, A-A-R-U-S-H-I, and Fire F-I-R-E.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_00: And my last name is Agni, which means fire.
• 1:29:41
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in case you're a white boy listening to this who is going to DM me to tell me that.
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um I don't know that.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm there like I've had so many white men in my life be like, your last name, I don't know if you know this.
• 1:29:55
  SPEAKER_00: It means fire.
• 1:29:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, actually, indeed I do.
• 1:29:59
  SPEAKER_02: Um why would you not know that as well?
• 1:30:01
  SPEAKER_02: Like it's not a good thing.
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, so my my handle is Arshi Fire on Twitter, Instagram, and it's Arishi Fire3 on TikTok.
• 1:30:11
  SPEAKER_00: And um I'm the thing that I will plug, I'm a stand-up comedian and I'm a musician.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_00: I have a band called Tim Can Diamonds, it's streaming everywhere.
• 1:30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I am also in a sketch group called Overstep Comedy.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_00: It's an all-Asian group.
• 1:30:27
  SPEAKER_00: And um we have a show coming up in April called Crazy Talented Asians.
• 1:30:34
  SPEAKER_00: We're also gonna be in the Asian comedy festival.
• 1:30:36
  SPEAKER_00: So um, yeah, and you can so Overstep Comedy is like at Overstep Comedy on like Instagram and Facebook and whatever.
• 1:30:44
  SPEAKER_00: We have sketches on YouTube and etc.
• 1:30:47
  SPEAKER_02: Nice.
• 1:30:48
  SPEAKER_02: Well, it's been really fun and enlightening about uh Sister X2 and Avatar, I guess, and Frozen 2.
• 1:30:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:30:58
  SPEAKER_00: I uh I guess I'm a big sequels bitch, but yeah.
• 1:31:02
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, your new favorite movie is gonna be Avatar 2.
• 1:31:05
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 1:31:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:31:07
  SPEAKER_00: First in line.
• 1:31:08
  SPEAKER_02: First in line.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_02: And it's gonna be six hours long.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_02: But yeah, this is this is for yeah, yeah, I've really enjoyed this.
• 1:31:17
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks so much for doing this.
• 1:31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Alright, great.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
• 1:31:21
  SPEAKER_02: That's the end of the podcast.
• 1:31:23
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• 1:31:27
  SPEAKER_02: And I'll see you next week for more movies.com.