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There's a New Girl in Middle Earth · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Largener John Collider the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
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  Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm arial Caston and with me as always is the
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  Speaker 1: super cool and amazing comost and friend I have Jonathan Stricklands.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so excited and I just can't hide it.
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  Speaker 1: Uh trying to place the reference.
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  Speaker 2: Do you droopy dog? Droopy dog doing the the the
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  Speaker 2: character from Jesse Spato from Yeah, It's it's layers on
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  Speaker 2: layers when you when you book me, it's like an
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  Speaker 2: onion baby layers and I make it cry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you can make me cry, ma'am. I've had some
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  Speaker 1: some intense auditions lately. You can't really talk about them,
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  Speaker 1: but I can't say that they're like you're distraught or
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  Speaker 1: you're sobbing, or you're crying, and I cry at the
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  Speaker 1: drop of the hat. But the moment that I put
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  Speaker 1: the pressure on myself to get there, it is so hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, uh yeah. And it all depends on the context
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  Speaker 2: for crying for me, right, like if it's if it's
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  Speaker 2: supposed to be like you're overwhelmed with emotion, like you're
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  Speaker 2: experiencing just emotion that's so intense that that's what's making
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  Speaker 2: you cry. All I have to do is think about
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  Speaker 2: like those videos of people coming home to their dogs
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  Speaker 2: after like three months or things like that, and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm just I get all because I'm a soft touch,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll get really weepy. But if it's like cry
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  Speaker 2: because you're devastated, I'm like, oh, that's taking me to
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  Speaker 2: a place that's going to be real hard for me
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  Speaker 2: to get to.
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  Speaker 1: So fun fact, you can trigger yourself using the happy
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  Speaker 1: video and then switch to the character you're playing and
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  Speaker 1: avoid touching on your personal trauma. I wish those dog
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  Speaker 1: videos worked for me. I have stuff that works for me,
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  Speaker 1: but it's the pressure, the like the.
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  Speaker 2: Timing, see like for me, like if I watch the
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  Speaker 2: bit the not not to get political, but to you know,
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  Speaker 2: like when when Tim Waltz at the DNC was giving
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  Speaker 2: his speech and his son stood up and yelled, that's
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  Speaker 2: my dad. That got me, Like I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: that's so sweet, and I thought it was the sweetest thing.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, especially since his kid overcame a nonverbal learning
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  Speaker 1: disorder apparently.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, which, by the way, in case anyone's wondering
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  Speaker 2: does not mean that he is nonverbal. What it means
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  Speaker 2: is that he finds non verbal methods of communication difficult
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  Speaker 2: to parse, So stuff like tone and body language, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing. Yeah, that's that's where he finds challenges.
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  Speaker 2: So the only reason I pointed out is because I've
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  Speaker 2: seen a lot of different takes on this online, and
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  Speaker 2: there's just of people making assumptions that are not usually
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  Speaker 2: they're not one hundred percent wrong, but they're usually at
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  Speaker 2: least wrong enough where you're like, let's all get on
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  Speaker 2: the same page.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, in general family, family bonding, happy,
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  Speaker 1: good relationships, do you make me cry? Because that's something
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  Speaker 1: that you don't see a lot of in you know,
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  Speaker 1: general media and entertainment either, because everybody loves the drama
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  Speaker 1: in the conflict.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's true that whenever Ariel sees me, she starts
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  Speaker 2: welling up. I don't I think that might be the smell.
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  Speaker 1: That was your excuse for the computer right now, that's
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  Speaker 1: to fake, Okay, the smell of vision through riverside. You're
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  Speaker 1: an old school which we're going to do this episode
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So one thing we're going to say before we
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  Speaker 2: jump into this now. Famously, we can never say it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a short episode, because it never is.
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  Speaker 2: But we will say we've got some trailers to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: But we actually don't have as many news items as
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  Speaker 2: we typically do. And I think part of that is
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  Speaker 2: that August tends to be the month where lots of
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  Speaker 2: people in various entertainment industries take that time off to
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  Speaker 2: go on vacation. I know in the publishing industry it's
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  Speaker 2: a big thing, like there are editors and publishers and
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  Speaker 2: agents who just take all of August off, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it might be true in other industries as well.
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  Speaker 1: I mean yes and no. So like on the acting side,
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  Speaker 1: I know a few actors who have started seeing a
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  Speaker 1: ramp up in auditions lately, but I do think that
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  Speaker 1: I do think some of it is probably that, and
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  Speaker 1: I also think some of it is just with the
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  Speaker 1: constant stream of strikes we've had. You know, most recently
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  Speaker 1: resolved was the Teamsters, and then now it's voice actors,
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  Speaker 1: possibly voice actors and video games that puts delays on
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  Speaker 1: a lot of media. So you know, we might also
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  Speaker 1: be hitting one of the lulls where things picked up
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  Speaker 1: and now it's back down again, because it's not It's like,
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  Speaker 1: it's not an immediate change. When you have one of
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  Speaker 1: those things happen, it takes some time for you to
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  Speaker 1: notice the fact.
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  Speaker 2: Sure. Well, and I think there's also the element of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, we're probably right around the corner from starting
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  Speaker 2: to see all the holiday stuff get unrolled, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: you know we've already talked about some horror movies. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: I added one to our list just before we went
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  Speaker 2: on to record. But it's okay because I also put
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  Speaker 2: in the notes at Ariel, don't watch this now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm seeing that and look the whole fruit. Jonathan was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: It was a crazy, crazy week for me. Some good,
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  Speaker 1: some bad, but that's how you do it. Roller coasters
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  Speaker 1: are fun, right, So Jonathan took the brunch of building
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  Speaker 1: the lineup this week, and there are a few more
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  Speaker 1: scarier movies in there that he's probably gonna tell me.
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  Speaker 1: Are it's scary?
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  Speaker 2: But well yeah, I mean why two K doesn't look
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  Speaker 2: scary at all?
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  Speaker 1: Look this pig looks incredibly scary.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. That computer animated film based off the work
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  Speaker 2: of Berkeley Breathet, the guy who created bloom County it
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  Speaker 2: looks terrifying. All right, well, let's before we jump into
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  Speaker 2: all that. You know, that's spoilers for the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the episode. Let's let's start the way we typically do
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  Speaker 2: and talk about stuff what we have watched since our
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  Speaker 2: last recording. For me, there's not a whole lot.
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  Speaker 1: For me, there's also not a whole lot. Like I said,
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  Speaker 1: it's been it's been a very very busy week. I
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  Speaker 1: did over the weekend watch Delicious and Dungeon. Like the
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  Speaker 1: first few episodes of that, which is a D and
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  Speaker 1: D party is poor and so they decide to get
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  Speaker 1: their literal bread and butter from the dungeon that you
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  Speaker 1: go to to fight the monsters. It is so weird.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know who it's for or what it's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be doing. I was like, maybe this is a
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  Speaker 1: story about sustainability practices.
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  Speaker 2: But when I heard when I heard the PREMI I thought,
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  Speaker 2: this has got to be like a comedy, right, But
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  Speaker 2: do you think it's just not classifiable.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is funny, it's it's very but it's
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  Speaker 1: anime humor. So sometimes you're like, that was a joke
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not laughing because delivery some anime humor I
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  Speaker 1: laugh at very hard, So that's that's a hard thing
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  Speaker 1: to classify. But there's just something about the delivery where
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  Speaker 1: some of the jokes, I'm like, that is a joke,
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  Speaker 1: and maybe if I were younger, I would be laughing,
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  Speaker 1: like if I were a kid.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and some anime humor like it's it's literally cultural differences, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's like what is considered humor in say, Japan versus
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  Speaker 2: the United States. And it's not to say that one
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  Speaker 2: is better or lesser than the other. They're just they
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  Speaker 2: cater to different sensibilities, some of which have overlap, but
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  Speaker 2: not all of them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, you know, I've only seen like the first
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  Speaker 1: three or four episodes, but it does feel like the
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  Speaker 1: care grow but it's so very slow, So a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the premise is the same. The one character doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want to eat the monsters and keeps getting grossed out
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  Speaker 1: and then being surprised that it tastes good. The other
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  Speaker 1: one is always angry because nobody listens to him. So
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's kind of cozy core. It's kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Gormond and it's kind of like, hey, don't knock
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  Speaker 1: it till you try it, which are all, you know,
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily, they're not bad things, but it was just,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it was interesting to have on in
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  Speaker 1: the background. I don't know if it would if I
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  Speaker 1: will watch the entire season and then other than that,
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  Speaker 1: just more never stop blowing up in Scavenger's rain. Those
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  Speaker 1: Scavenger's Rain made me angry last night.
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  Speaker 2: So did you see the episode of Make Some Noise
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  Speaker 2: that had Pete Holmes in it?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yes, I did you know that? Like, okay, so sorry, gusher.
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  Speaker 2: Burp uh oh wow, that's a terrible thing to call that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm eating gushers and the.
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  Speaker 2: I know, but the gusher burp sounds like like I
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  Speaker 2: don't like saying I don't like saying vomit, but that's
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  Speaker 2: what happened.
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  Speaker 1: It sounds like the big zombies from Left four Dead.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the yeah, the yeah, what are those called? I
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  Speaker 2: can't remember now it's been too long, but yeah, I remember, but.
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  Speaker 1: They're ope attack like it's a gusher burp. Yeah, okay, anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: I drop Out is my number one streaming service and
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  Speaker 1: I don't like everything on there. You know, you're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna find a streaming service that you do, honestly, And
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  Speaker 1: they have a smaller selection of stuff, but some of
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  Speaker 1: their stuff just doesn't hit for me. Some of it does,
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  Speaker 1: most of it does, but it is the first thing
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  Speaker 1: I check every night when I'm like, what do I
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  Speaker 1: want to watch? Because usually there is something that I
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  Speaker 1: want to watch. So all of the stuff that I
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  Speaker 1: like watching on there I have caught up on and
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  Speaker 1: I've watched every episode of so now it's like, crap,
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  Speaker 1: there's nothing on Dropout for me to watch tonight.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's There's some YouTube channels that are like that
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  Speaker 2: for me, where I'm like, I'm like subscribed to them
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  Speaker 2: and I'm all caught up and like things like Red
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  Speaker 2: Letter Media, which had you know, literally probably close to
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  Speaker 2: one hundred videos that I had not seen when I
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  Speaker 2: first discovered them. So for a long time it felt
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  Speaker 2: like there was an endless supply of content. But eventually
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: I did watch all the episodes that have ever published
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  Speaker 2: in all the various series they do, and now I'm
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: just waiting for new episodes of stuff to come out.
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  Speaker 2: And it's fairly sporadic because they do a lot of
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  Speaker 2: different things, and it can be maddening while waiting that
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  Speaker 2: not to put pressure on creators because that's the worst.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you create when it works. But boy, I
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  Speaker 2: just I like their stuff. What's funny is that I
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  Speaker 2: like I like their more recent stuff a lot more
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  Speaker 2: than their earlier stuff because they have evolved as human
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  Speaker 2: beings since they started.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But to answer your question, yes, I did watch
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  Speaker 1: the episode with Pete Holmes. First of all, I thought
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  Speaker 1: that entire panel of Make Some Noise worked incredibly well together.
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  Speaker 1: They just they were able to improv with each other seamlessly.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of Pete Holmes anyhow, so it
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  Speaker 1: was a delight. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mostly knew him from Night Court because he played
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  Speaker 2: the fiance in Judge Stones fiance in Nightcurt.
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  Speaker 1: So did you never watch his old like X Men
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  Speaker 1: series or his old Batman series? No, which is why
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  Speaker 1: he played those two characters and Make Some Noise.
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  Speaker 2: I well, see, here's the other thing. I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: the episode of Make Some Noise. What I saw was
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  Speaker 2: a compilation video of all the times Pete Holmes roasted
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  Speaker 2: Sam Reich.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know why he did that, but
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  Speaker 1: I did hear that they are very old and good friends.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the roasted none of it was super mean spirited.
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  Speaker 2: It was all very goofy, but I laughed so hard,
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  Speaker 2: and I don't want to spoil a single joke because
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  Speaker 2: he delivers them so well. So that's just a recommendation
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  Speaker 2: from me to at the very least find the compilation
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  Speaker 2: video of Pete Holmes roasting Sam Reich because it's hilarious. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and preferably you watch the whole episode. Uh. The the comedian,
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  Speaker 2: the actress, I don't remember her name, but she was.
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  Speaker 2: She was in Dead Boy Detectives, so she.
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  Speaker 1: Was, yeah, she was.
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  Speaker 2: She was on one of the little one of the
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  Speaker 2: little rude Pixie things or whatever. Yeah, So so when
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  Speaker 2: I saw her on there, and I've seen I've seen
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  Speaker 2: one of her entries in that particular episode, which is
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  Speaker 2: you know how a male sci fi writer writes a
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  Speaker 2: female character scene And it made me laugh so hard,
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  Speaker 2: and so I need to watch the whole episode.
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  Speaker 1: You. It is such a good there are I love
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  Speaker 1: Makes Some Noise. I loved it when it started with
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  Speaker 1: Brennan and Josh and Zach as the noise boys. But uh,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Riley does a really good job of not always
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  Speaker 1: hanging on what is her strength, which is doing impersonations.
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  Speaker 1: She's a wonderful I would say, mostly female impressionist and
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  Speaker 1: voice actor, so like she does an amazing Judy Garland
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  Speaker 1: and stuff like that, you know, but she doesn't. There
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  Speaker 1: are some voice actors who will come on a show
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  Speaker 1: like that and they will only stick to the things
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  Speaker 1: that they're really good at. And she's willing to go
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  Speaker 1: off and play and she's very funny, and she listens
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  Speaker 1: to her scene partners and it's just it's very good.
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  Speaker 1: I loved the episode so much. I'm going to send
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  Speaker 1: you links to Pete Holmes X Men's series and his
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  Speaker 1: Batman sketches because they're very funny. He does fall into
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  Speaker 1: some boy humor because he's were made I think in
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  Speaker 1: like the early two thousands, US mid two thousands, but
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  Speaker 1: they're very funny. I'm going to send them to you.
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  Speaker 2: Ah well, I have to check that out. And yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for me, I watched the opening night, sort of the
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  Speaker 2: preview show for games Con, which is a big video
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  Speaker 2: game conference that takes place in Cologne, Germany, which smells
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  Speaker 2: real nice from what I understand, it's one of those
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  Speaker 2: nice smelling colognes. But yeah, the the the pre show
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  Speaker 2: was interesting. We'll talk a little bit about one of
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  Speaker 2: the things shown off at that or a couple of
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  Speaker 2: things that were shown off at that particular event, But
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  Speaker 2: in general, it was just kind of interesting to see another,
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  Speaker 2: you know, games conference. It covered a lot of stuff
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  Speaker 2: that was not covered during the Summer Game Festival, so
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  Speaker 2: that was kind of cool.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's any stuff there too, because like my
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  Speaker 1: friend who's doing the video game that I've talked about
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  Speaker 1: on the show before, he's there right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, there's quite a bit like it's not just
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  Speaker 2: in fact, I would argue that some of the the
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  Speaker 2: stuff that was really shown off wasn't the stuff from
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  Speaker 2: Triple A Studios. But it was funny because Peter Mullineux
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  Speaker 2: came out and talked about his upcoming game, Albion. If
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  Speaker 2: you don't know who he is, he's the guy who's
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  Speaker 2: behind Fable. He's also behind other games. He has a
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  Speaker 2: history of making almost outlandishly ambitious promises that almost never
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  Speaker 2: succeed in delivering, Like the it gets like part of
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  Speaker 2: the way there, you can see, you can see where
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  Speaker 2: they were going, but often the ambition is so lofty
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  Speaker 2: there's just no way to get there. And so he
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  Speaker 2: has a bit of a reputation for making outlandish promises.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, I know, you said al Albion
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  Speaker 1: I think, but I heard ambient and I'm like, is
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  Speaker 1: this a video game to help you sleep? That would
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  Speaker 1: be awesome?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, arguably some of his games could fall into
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  Speaker 2: that category. I also I also watched another episode of
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Umbrella Academy. I'm only up to episode four, so I'm
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  Speaker 2: not really far into the series, but I'm growing to
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  Speaker 2: like it more as I watch more of it, and
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  Speaker 2: characters that I found really off putting at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: I'm starting to come around on because I'm starting to
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  Speaker 2: understand why they are the way they are and that
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  Speaker 2: helps a lot, right Like, you run a risk, I
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  Speaker 2: think with any story where you introduce characters who are
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  Speaker 2: not initially very likable, and you're trusting the audience to
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  Speaker 2: stick around long enough to understand why they are the
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  Speaker 2: way they are and that maybe they come around to
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  Speaker 2: liking that character. And for me, if you don't have
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  Speaker 2: at least a couple of characters that I really kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, it's tough for me to stick with it.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm glad I did because there was no guarantee
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  Speaker 2: I could have just watched that first episode and said, well,
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  Speaker 2: apart from the day sequence, this is just isn't for me.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm glad I'm stuck sticking with it. I did
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: ask ariel Off Mike Uh during the week, like, hey,
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  Speaker 2: does this show ever start to actually make sense? Like
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: it does as far as far as like as far
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  Speaker 2: as like the grand narrative, not the individual like individual
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  Speaker 2: episodes I can follow, but the whole like apocalypse time
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  Speaker 2: traveled narrative is really tough for me to understand right now.
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  Speaker 1: So like it is, it is bonkers, and it's it
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  Speaker 1: is interesting because like, for instance, my my husband likes
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  Speaker 1: the first two scenes seasons better than the third season
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  Speaker 1: and then enjoyed the fourth season but thought it was
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  Speaker 1: too rushed, which many people did. There was a lot
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: that was cut out, it was only six episodes. They
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  Speaker 1: made some choices that some people didn't agree with, and
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  Speaker 1: the characters didn't really get to naturally build to the
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  Speaker 1: decisions they made. That being said, I still enjoyed the ride,
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  Speaker 1: but but he likes the first two seasons because he
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  Speaker 1: felt it was very real world with some crazy stuff
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  Speaker 1: put in, and the third season was less that. And
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if you're going to have a reverse feeling
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  Speaker 1: because the third season will be more contained.
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  Speaker 2: I can see what I can see what he's saying.
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  Speaker 2: But because I mean, like, i've seen clips from later
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: seasons right before I ever watched the show, I saw like,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: because everyone's seen the Footloose clip, I'm sure, but I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: the issue I was running into was really more like,
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: there's clearly some sort of organization that's similar to the
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: tv A in MCU, right, Like there's a some sort
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: of agency that's there to protect timelines. But I don't
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: understand when that exists, Like is it outside of time entirely?
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: If it's not, is it in time? If it is
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: in time, why, like how does it exist post apocalypse?
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: I don't understand. So that's what I got me choked up.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: I don't remember if they explain that. I feel like
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: they do because I was able to follow it kind of,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: or maybe I just didn't question it. I don't know.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: I have to go back and watch the first three
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: seasons again. I actually really want to, so.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna stick with it because I am. I'm
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: really enjoying the performances. I did just meet somebody and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I already clocked him as being like, Okay, you're a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: bad guy because you're coming across as a nice guy.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: Leonard like you, you seem to be a nice guy,
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: but you're clearly a bad guy. I'm like, you're gonna
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: be the bad guy. That's what that's who this And
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: I will bet money right now. I haven't I don't
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: know what's gonna happen, but I will bet money that
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: he ends up being the bad guy for season one.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say a thing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not taking the bed, so I can tell
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that I'm right, all right, so cool?
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: No, I no, I don't remember. I didn't just look
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it up.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: He's the he's the so so Victor formerly Vanya meets
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Leonard and Leonyard comes across as uber nice guy who
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: is taking violin lessons from from Victor formally Vanya, and uh,
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's too nice. Like everyone in
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: in Victor slash Vagnya's Life dismisses them like that's their gig,
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: that's that's who they are. And this guy is like, no,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: I'm going to actually pay attention and I'm being very
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: caring and supportive and I'm like, clearly this is the
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: bad guy because there's no way.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: Because you didn't well up at it.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: So obviously, I mean, I just I just have a
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: bad guy, not in real life, but in fiction. I've
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: got a bad guy detector that's incredibly well tuned.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Boy howdy, I wish that that were flippable, not for you,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: but for me, because yeah, it's a lot easier to
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: watch a show from the outside and be like, that's
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: a bad guy.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Well, how about we get into our thirty
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: seconds or least. We only have four stories, so we
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: each get two goes at it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Sure, I think I start, I think I start. Okay.
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: So this slate of shows that Disney announced for Star Wars,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: there was one show that if you listen to the podcast,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: you know I was clearly excited about the act, like
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: kind of following some Jedi stuff hundreds of years before, well,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I guess one hundred years before. The main plot line
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: is not getting a second season. It got decent review
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: from critics, but it did not get great reviews from
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: a lot of watchers. A Hollywood reporter says that it's
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: for certain things, like an LGBTQ storyline. I have some
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: friends who watched it who don't have issues with that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: and just found it a little bit of a slog
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to watch. I honestly didn't watch it because my friends
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: who watched it weren't super thrilled, and so it kind
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: of diminished my excitement about it. But it's not getting
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a second season, although I know some people are trying to,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: like petition it to come back.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck with that. Disney has had plenty of
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: petitions for lots of other stuff and ain't none of
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: that changed yet. But I will say that like Star Wars,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: has some of the best in fandom and some of
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: the most toxic people in fandom, and often the toxic
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: toxic ones can be the loudest at times, and I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: have a feeling that Like I also haven't seen the Acolyte,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I have no dog in this fight, but I suspect
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: that the toxic fandom played a large part and shouting
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: it down.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it was what caused Disney
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to cancel it. I think that is just poor viewership.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: But poor viewership might have been affected by.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, okay. Well. At games Come this year, two
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: K and Gearbox presented a teaser for Borderlands for Presumably
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the original plan was that this trailer would coast on
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: the accolades of the Borderlands movie, but uh, that didn't
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: happen because no one liked the film. There are no
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: real details released about the game yet, and in fact,
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: the game's development has been kind of like the worst
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: kept secret in the caving industry. But yay, more Borderlands.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: The game looks pretty, but it doesn't feel like a
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: Borderlands game from the teaser trailer.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know that the teaser is even reflective
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: of because, like the teaser doesn't go with the cell
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: shaded art style that the previous games did. I cannot
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: imagine them getting away from that. Maybe they did, but
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: that just I think the teaser was just just stylized
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: for the purposes of the announcement.
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay, Now we come to the thirty seven through
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: less story. I added in so we'd have more than three. Sure,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: I didn't even look up her name. There is an
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: actress who played Edwina On Bridgerton who is now cast
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: in One Piece. I don't want to mispronounce her name horribly,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: so I'm not going to She is going to be
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: playing Miss Wednesday, who I think is a good guy. Uh,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: I've only I'm only half an episode into the One
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Piece live action. I've been told not to start the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: cartoon because it's just so much to catch up on.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: But if you are a fan of either One Piece
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: or Bridgeritt Tend or both, this is good news for you.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Well, for a while there, we got a bunch of
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: oversized animal monster movies like Lake Placid. Well, one movie
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the achieved could classic status for at least some people
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: was Anaconda, starring j Lo ice Cube, John Voight, and
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Wow Owen Wilson. And now there are talks of a
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: new reimagined version of Ana Conda with Jack Black and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Paul run. It sounds like it's kind of a mix
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: between Anaconda and Tropic Thunder as a group of friends
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: go to the jungle to make a movie and then
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: hilarity in.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Sues very clever. It kind of sounds a little bit
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: like Hangover to me.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like the description said, like, you know, it's these
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: four friends who have this favorite film of theirs, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they're going through various midlife crises, so they all decide
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: that they're gonna pop on down to the local jungle
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: and recreate the movie. So I'm wondering if it's going
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: to be like meta where they're trying to remake the
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: actual Anaconda film.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I sure hope. So look, I didn't watch the original,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: but this has actually, like it's it has peaked my interest.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I'll say this, the original Anaconda is gloriously entertaining, but
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: not never once in the way that it was intended
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: to be. Gotcha, at least in my opinion. Okay, well,
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: now let's just talk about like a whole bunch of
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: trailers and stuff. And first up, we got a trailer
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: for a weird looking kind of freaky comedy called Frankie
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Freak Go, and it made me think of like if
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: you were to mix Goolies with like cool World.
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, they're using like the very gooley style or
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: garbage pail kids style puppets. Yeah, which is such such
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: a weird throwback thing to go to.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and I mean I think it follows in
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: line with all the other stuff we're seeing that's playing
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: on nostalgic elements, right, I mean, the fact that Ana
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Kona's being remade falls into that too.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I would never have thought of Anaconda as nostalgic well again,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: like I always just think, Okay, the people who are
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: now in charge of green lighting movies are ones who
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: were coming of age in like the seventies, eighties, and nineties,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: So that means that the stuff they feel nostalgic for
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: is material from those eras, and that's why.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Stuff like that gets greenlit. Plus, there's just this belief
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: that anything with existing IP is going to have a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: built in audience. In this case, we're talking I don't
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: think this is an existing IP. If it is, I'm
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: not aware of it. But the story is this, there's
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: this after hours like call in line and boy howdy,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that's a callback. I don't think I've heard of one
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: of those in a long time. Yeah, but yeah, it's
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: one of those for the sexy schmecksy times. And anyway,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: in this case, like a guy calls it and then
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: essentially invites this sort of freakish supernatural creature into his life,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: and then he gets sucked into their world, which is
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: why I said it's kind of like cool world because
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: it's you know, a human going into a non human environment.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know how else to describe it. It was
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a weird trailer.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: That's that's a perfect way to describe it. It's very weird.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: For me, Yeah, I don't. I don't think this one's
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: for me either. Like, it's not that I object to
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: juvenile humor necessarily, but it needs to feel like the
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: people behind it are at least being clever, and maybe
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: they are. But the bits I saw on this nothing Like.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: I thought that the visuals were really interesting. I thought
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: the production value in the trailer was really interesting, and
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: I do love puppetry and stuff, but I.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Wouldn't even say this is good puppetry.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: No, No, it's I thought it was really imaginative, but
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: that's not enough. Like there's stuff that I have kind
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: of a soft spot for that I think of as
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: being really imaginative, but not necessarily the best story. This
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: didn't feel like that fell.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Into that kin No, No, Although I did find the
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: main protagonist in the trailer to be decently likable, Yeah,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know much about him, but Underdog.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: Well, our next trailer is one where we don't have
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: a lot to say about it. That's only because nobody does.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: That trailer is Azrael. And the reason I say nobody
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: has anything to say about is because it's set in
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the world where nobody talks.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Is that like, actually true or just nobody talked in
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: the trailer?
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: It's actually true. I looked it up because I was
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: wondering if it was literally a trailer that just avoided
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: all dialogue. But no, So it's set post rapture. So
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: these are people who have been to borrow a phrase
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: left behind and apparently in this version of the post
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: rapture world, people no longer have the ability to speak,
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So there's no speaking in the film for what I
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: can tell, and a heroin named so Marrow Weaving. No,
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's the actress ends up being being like
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: she's it looks like she's called upon to be sacrificed,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: but she escapes and so then the rest of the
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: movie is her trying to evade capture. From what I
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: could tell m that is.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: So it's interesting because it did look like it's probably
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: too scary for me. But not talking is that's that's
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a hard acting job.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, how do you how do you convey
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: things in a way that are clear without it being
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: over the top, right, Like, how do you how do
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: you make sure that people understand besides the fact of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: just oh no, they want to hurt me. I need
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: to get away, Like there's only so much you can
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: watch of that unless you're George Miller, in which case
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you can make a two hour movie about it.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I mean, or you know, Toy Story one, So that's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I need to get back. But I mean, actors in
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: general are hired for what they don't say, for the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: thoughts between the lines and the reactions. Like lines are good,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: but it's it's those other moments. It's the reactions that
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: really sell. So I mean from that standpoint, I guess
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: you know it's the job, but yeah, they're it must
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: be really challenging to come up with all of your
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: backstory and something like that.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I I'll be honest, like I love horror movies.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: I love thriller movies. You do. Yeah, I don't know
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: if it comes across, but I really do love them.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: But this one was not like maybe maybe it's just
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the trailer. Maybe a new trailer would make me feel
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: differently about it. I think part of the problem is
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: that I feel like Kirk Cameron made the definitive post
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: rapture movie.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: So, I mean, HBO did the left I think you're
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: joking there, but I can't tell because he.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Did maybe a little bit. It was so bad, Aeriel,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: it was so bad.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: I didn't watch it. That's probably a surprise to you,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: But I didn't watch it.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I've surprised to you that I did that.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: HBO.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: HBO also made The Leftovers, which is similar, but people
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: definitely talked at Matt.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean, I guess we'll have to wait
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: and see if there are any other trailers to at
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: least get me interested. I don't think this is for you, Ariel,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: even if, like in the next one, everyone's spouting off Shakespeare,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: this does not look like it's an aerial style movie.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Probably not one and more on the fence About is
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: a movie that I didn't know about until Jonathan posted
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: the link called the Radley's.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's that feel good family of vampires movie that
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: we've all been calling out for. No, no, this is
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: a this is like, this is like suburban family of vampires.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Oh, Dark Shadows.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: That wasn't a family. That wasn't a suburban family of vampires.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: That was one vampire who was wakened up and then
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: ends up. If you're talking about the movie version played
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: by Johnny Depp, who then goes on who then goes
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: on to have sexy schpeccy times that by wrecking an
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: entire room.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I didn't actually watch the movie.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: It's not good.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so apparently it's a it's a family of vampires.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: And I don't think the mom and dad necessarily tell
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: the kids because they've chosen sobriety, as they call it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: in the trailer, to not drink blood. But you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: if you don't know something's a problem, you can't address
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it or watch out for it. So that's what happens.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that might be the moral of the story, is that,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: you know, you need to Families need to talk about
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: these sorts of things so that they can they can
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: support one another and tackle the problems together, as opposed
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: to just trying to suppress it and pretend it'll go away.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like the trailer didn't look bad. It didn't look
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: quite as that kind of log line feels like it
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: should be a comedy to me, and it didn't. It
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: didn't choose whether to It didn't choose even if it
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: wanted to be a drama dy in.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: The trailer, I agree, I agree, I think that the
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: tone is really confusing, Like I could not get a
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: read on is this a horror comedy? Is it a
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: horror with just some comedic elements, but it's not an
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: outright horror comedy? Yeah, because like I wish they had
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: gone more Sean of the Dead in that direction. For
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: if they're going to do a horror comedy, If you're
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: going to do a horror with just some comedic elements,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: that's possible. I mean, some of my favorite horror movies
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: have little moments of comedy that are fantastic, that really
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: stand out. But this premise, by itself is screaming high
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: concept horror comedy. Yeah.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of a high concept but with more of
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: a general feel of how it's going to go. We
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: also got a trailer for a movie called Omni.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Loop Yeah, which it starts off feeling like a like
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: the trailer's just for like a mainstream drama.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I know when I shared it with you, you thought, you're, like,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I was afraid this is going to be Groundhog's Day,
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't actually look like that.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean it Well, when it first starts,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: I didn't even know it was going to have like
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: the groundhog Day element to it, where you have a
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: character who is reliving the same time span over and
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: over again. In this case, it's a week like five days,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: and the main character is a woman who has been
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: diagnosed with a black hole.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, growing inside of her body and.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: That it's going to kill her in five days, And
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: when she takes this pill at the into five days,
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: it makes her go back to the beginning of that
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: five day period and she relives it. So there are
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: elements like there are scenes in that trailer where you're like,
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: this scene feels like it's lifted directly from Groundhog Day,
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: where she's predicting the next thing that's going to happen
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: as proof that she has lived through this numerous times.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: But it has a totally different tone. It feels much
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: more drama oriented, whereas obviously groundhog Day was a comedy.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: It actually feels like it's going to have a decent
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: amount of heart in there too, like fairly touching.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's the fact that it's a science
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: fiction film. It I mean, I really wish it didn't
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: tread similar ground to groundhog Day, simply because we have
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: seen other variations on groundhog Day in the not too
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: distant past. I mean the Happy Death Day would be
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the the examples I think of those two movies both
• 37:03
  Speaker 2: had that. It's so much so that the characters in
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: the movie comment on it. They hang a lampshade on
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: the fact that they are using the same general premise
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: as Groundhog Day. So I kind of wish it had
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: a different like thing to loop everything around. But at
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: the same time, it's not like I have a better idea.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: It's just I worry that it's going to inevitably just
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: get compared endlessly to Groundhog.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Day or die nse repeat or Day Sorry, that's Day
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: after Tomorrow. I don't know why I glommed onto the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: new name for it or the the tom Cruise one. Right, yeah, yeah,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Because in this story, at least according to the synopsis
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: because I haven't watched yet, the woman with the black
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Hole meets a student who tries helps tries to help
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: save her life and also figure out time travel, played
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: by ao at A Bari. Iowa I can say her
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: name usually I think I need more coffee. Io at
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: a Bari and Chris Watowski's also in it, and they're
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: both in the Bear, so that makes me happy. So
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: so yeah, from that standpoint, like half Groundhog daycares are
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: reliving half day after tomorrow because you've got a scientist
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: trying to help fix it.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's this one looks interesting. I'll probably
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: wait for it to come to streaming. If I'm being honest,
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I don't think this is a make the trip to
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: the movie theater film for me. Same same, but what
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: about Secret Level? Okay, that's not a movie.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely not going to the theater for that. I
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be there.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: So this was also shown off at Games Calm, but
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Secret Level is an anthology series where the anthology is
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: stories that are inspired by our Bay based on video games,
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: specific video games.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: It looks interesting, it looks beautiful. I I am, it's
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: by the it's by the same team who did uh
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: do Robots dream of or Electric Sheep?
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Then it show uh the Love and Robots One?
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Sorry I was wrong. Yeah, Love and Robots one, which
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: is a Netflix show, isn't it?
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah I believe so? Yes, Okay, yeah, uh.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: The.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: It's it's one of those. It's an animated series. But yeah, Love,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Death and Robots. I knew I was leaving something out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: It's like, it's like Live Prey Love, But I've watched.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: The trailer four times. I don't want to know why
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: my brain keeps transposing it into a different anthology series.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you're going, you're going like Philip K. Dick.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: But yeah, Love, Love, Death and Robots. But yeah, it's
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: it's an animated anthology series with different styles of animation
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: for each entry, and it's about different game properties. So
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: like there's one that's apparently going to be based on
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: or inspired by, Spilunky, one from pac Man, one from
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: Mega Man. Uh, there's some one for Lesser one for
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Armored Corps. There's there's some lesser known titles in there.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: It's not like it's all like Triple A or famous titles.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: I'm deeply saddened that Stardu Valley isn't in there.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: That's for season two, Jonathan, you can't you can't do
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: it all in season one.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's definitely looks interesting. I'll probably check this
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: out because I'm very curious as to what stories do
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: they tell, because we know there's the challenge of doing
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: like a video game adaptation to a different medium, because
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: when you're playing a video game, you get to be
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: the one to make all the decisions, which I think
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: is part of what makes video games so interesting, and
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: that it's less interesting when you're just watching detached as
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: an observer. H So I'm curious to see how they
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: pull it off.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: Me too. I also, you know it. I hope that
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: I have one worry about this, which is that the
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: stories they tell because I'm not going to be familiar
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: with all of the game properties in the anthology series.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna watch it. There's enough that I am
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: familiar with, but even those like I'm not deep into
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: most video unless it's Mass Effect, I'm not deep into
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: video game more. And uh, they it could be hard.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: It could be a hard entry point for people if
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: either they assume that people know enough about whatever video
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: game the particular episode is dealing on, or if they
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: try to explain too much about the particular episode for
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: everybody who doesn't know. So I really hope they find
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: a good balance there.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. Next up, we've got our trailer for
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: Y two K, which I referenced earlier in this episode,
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: and my note on it was Maximum Overdrive but funny.
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: So if you don't know what maximum overdrive is. It's
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: a good chance a lot of you out there don't.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It was a horror movie with Emilio Estevez play the
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: main character, based off a screenplay by Stephen King and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: or a story by Stephen King. And it's one where
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: there's like this big electrical storm and then all electronics
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: essentially become sentient and start to try and kill humans.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: The famous machine in that movie was a semi truck
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: with an enormous green goblin face on the front of
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: the semi truck. So if you've ever seen that, that's
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: what that movie is. Anyway. Why two K. It's about
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: a bunch of kids who go to a party in
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: nineteen ninety nine as the year two thousand is coming
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: across and unlike the real world, when that happens, Y
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: two K is a real thing and all like little
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: electronics gain sentience and decide to try and kill people.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you aren't familiar with Y two K,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: because some of you may not be. Yeah, people were
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: worried that when the year changed from nineteen ninety nine
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: to two thousand that all of our computer systems would
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: crash because they didn't they weren't built right to handle
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: that change.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so technically to explain true, to explain the dates,
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: the dates, and various pieces of software and code. When
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: people were first starting to create it, they were trying
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: to conserve space, and so they just wrote years as
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: two digit dates, So like seventy eight, seventy nine. That's
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: fine until you get to ninety nine. But if the
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: machines all are adding dates by just making the increment
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: go up by one, and they can't add a third
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: digit to the number, when it gets to ninety nine,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: it then switches to zero zero. So the fear was
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: all these pieces of software we're going to suddenly assume
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: that the year was nineteen hundred and that things would
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: break down as a result. And so this film takes
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: that fear and turns it into one if everything gained
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: sentience and wanted to kill you, includings like somehow a
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Tamagatchi gets attached to like a robot with a drill.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: You've got Tamagotchi coming after.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: You, Like it's the bad kid from Toy Story right,
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Like they're all at his house.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Sid.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sid Is is the main character named Sid. Now
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: I really need to know.
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: I'm curious about this because it looks it looks so cheesy.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: I it's such a ridiculous premise, But then so was
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Maximum Overdrive. And this looks like it's a teen friendly
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: version of Maximum Overdrive. So I'm I'm I am intrigued
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: because it's so dumb, it's got my attention.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it also has a like Kyle Mooney helped make it,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: and he's from SNL. He's also in it, and it
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: very much feels his style of humor to me.
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this definitely falls into that sci fi horror
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: comedy yeah kind of genre. Like the comedy is there
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and there's all it's undeniable comedy is also there. For
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: our next one, the aforementioned Hit Pig that Ariel was
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: casting aspersions upon earlier.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Is there comedy in that Hit Pig?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Yes, Hit Pig's the cartoon. Are you thinking about something else?
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: No? I I just didn't find that. The trailer didn't
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: grab me.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, way, So so missing Elephant Pig bounty hunter has
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: to go and find the elephant, finds out the elephant
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: is actually from captivity.
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: From from the Lord of the Dance.
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: You saw no comedy in this? Did you think it
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: was a drama?
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, remember how I talked about Delicious in Dungeon where
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: there was comedy, and I'm like, oh, that's a joke.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: So you recognize as comedy. You just didn't find it funny.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: It it's also a kid's movie. It is very obviously
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: a kid's movie with adult humor in there. It does.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: It does look cute. There is a there is a
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: human character in there who is not the villain. And
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: at first when I saw them, I thought that this
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: was maybe a spin off from the Miraculous series with
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Ladybug and all that, but it's I don't think it is.
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: No, this is this is created I mentioned earlier by
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: Berkeley Breathd who created the comic strip bloom County many
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: many many years ago. And yeah, it looks cute to me.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: It does look like you know, it's a kid's film.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: But was it Jason Sedeikaz who voices the pig. The pig, Yeah,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: and he's he's supposed to. He's hired to go after
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: a lost elephant. But it turns out that the the
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: guy who hired hit Pig had captured this elephant and
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: was holding it against its will. So the plot thickens
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: and then the pig has to question what's more important
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: to him the money, the payoff, or be doing what
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: is right?
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: You know, you know what it might be. What might
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: have have made it not hit for me because I
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: like a lot of computer animated movies. Is its animal
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: engangement is the wrong word, but the story of an
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: elephant being kidnapped kind of breaks my heart a little bit.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I understand that, Like I mean, you know,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: you being able to compartmentalize and just look at this
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: movie as a movie on its own, that's one thing.
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: But when you sit there and think, hey, that's what
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: circuses did for decades, it does get real heavy.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It is also interesting that it's by the
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: guy who did bloom County, because one, the art style
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: looks a little different to me. Bloom County County has
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: a very like has a rougher art style, sure, I
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: would say. And then also bloom County is, from what
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: I recall, not kid friendly.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: It wasn't terrible. I actually fell in love with bloom
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: County when I was a kid, But then I grew
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: up in the eighties and we had a different set
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: of expectations for what was comedy back then, and what
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: was appropriate for kids. I mean, like I grew up
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: before there was a PG thirteen rating, so I remember
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: PG movies when they had like nudity and swearing and
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: stuff in them.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So, I mean the movie looks cute. I'm
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: sure it'll be fine. I just think that I'm taking
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: on Jonathan's roll of Cranky this week.
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: That's fair, that's fair. Also, I don't think there's nearly
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: enough nudity or swearing in it. So moving on, we
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: got we got not not even really a teaser, but
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: a title reveal from Laika Studios. So. Laika is the
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: production company that did Coraline. They did Kubo in the
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: Two Strings, like they do all this stop motion animation. Beautiful,
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: amazing work like their films. I mean not just from
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: a technical level. Their films are great, but specifically from
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: a technical level, they are breath taking. And we got
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: a title reveal for their next project, which is going
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: to be called Wildwood.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's not it's not a direct like sequel to
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Coraline or anything like that though.
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: Correct, No, no, it's not. Well, yeah, all of their
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: projects have been like independent stories, right, they are not
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: connected to each other like Kubo and the Two Strings
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: is not set in the Coraline universe, and if you
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: haven't seen Kubo in the Two Strings, I highly recommend it.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: I saw it in the theater, and I'm glad I
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: did because it was like it was one of those
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: movies that deserved to have a much wider screening than
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: it did. But it just you know, it was one
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: of those that, like the fans who went loved it,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: but it didn't really it didn't really grow beyond that
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: initial group of viewers. It did, like Garner an Academy
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: Award nomination, but yeah, so anyway, like it does great work.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: So I'm excited to see more about this movie as
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: we get closer to release.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks pretty good. It looks a little scary.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen Kubo in in Kuba.
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: And the Cubo Cubo and the Two Strings and the
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: Two Strings.
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I wanted to when it was in theaters and I
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: didn't get to, and I still want to watch it.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: But it's one of those ones that keeps just falling
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: off the list and then getting added back to the bottom.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Totally. Yeah, I have so many properties that are on
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: my list. I cannot cast aspersions. I will say it
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: is worth your time. So if it ever gets on
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: that list again and you're like, no, today's day, I
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: think you're gonna enjoy it. You're not gonna regret it.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: I think so too. I also do think I'm going
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: to enjoy Lord of the Rings the War of the Rohrum.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another animated film. This is done in sort of
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: a Japanese animation or anime style and directed by a
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Japanese director and produced by Peter Jackson. So it's an
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: animated film that is taking place before the events of
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the Lord of the Rings, where we get to see
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: Helm hammer hand and how he got that name and
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: his daughter. So this is based off a story that
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: actually appears in Tolkien, but it involves a character who
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: previously in the Tolkien version is unnamed. Why because she
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: has the temerity to be a woman, and Tolkien was
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: Tolkien was not super detailed about women in his stories.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: They didn't play a huge part in his tales. Even
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: the ones that do appear, with the possible exception of Gladriel,
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: they don't have much to do. So uh, and maybe.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I would say had decent screen time at.
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: Least, sure but our but Rowin's screen time was completely
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: invented because that's not that's not how she appears in
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: the original novels. Arwin does not show up at Helms Deep.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: She does. She is not the elf who rescues Frodo
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: when they're they're escaping the Ring Race. Like, they gave
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Arwin a lot more to do. Not that I'm saying
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: that's a bad thing. I'm just saying that was a
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: difference from the Tolkien But yeah, That's one thing that
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: I think is going to be interesting about this is
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: because this version of the story gives first of all,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: it gives helm Hammerhan's daughter a name, thank goodness, it's Harrah,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and gives her the the the burden of the She's
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: the protagonist of this story. I think, like you, Ariel,
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: I think it looks really good. I think it looks
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: like a it's gonna be a thrilling story. I maybe
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: it's too early for me to even think like this,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: but I worry about the quote unquote true fans being
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: real butt faces, about the fact that that they gave
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: this this role to a character who was unnamed in
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: Tolkien's work.
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: I think if they're being butt heads about it, then
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: they are not true, actual true fans, because you and
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: I we are.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, I have a tattoo, a Lord of the
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Rings tattoo.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: And before anyone questions my motivation, my I don't think
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like it because I want to coseplay.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Every single thing that Harah is shown wearing in the
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: trailer has nothing to do with it. I think it's
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be a good series.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it looks I think it. I think it
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: looks really good too. I'm I like how you're just like, Okay,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: whatever this thing is, I think it'll be a good
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: one of those.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: It looks like it's gonna be a good story and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: a fun watch. How's that?
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: There? You go? Yeah, I am looking forward to it,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: which is funny because like I have had no desire
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: to watch Rings of Power. Not no aspersions on the
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: people who work on that show, nothing like that. It
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: just hasn't interested me, Like the stuff I've seen just
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: hasn't grabbed me. Maybe I'll get around to it, because
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: who knows, maybe I will love it.
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: But much New Girl first, Finnish Umbrella Academy first.
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: How many elves are a new Girl? I guess I
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: guess the one because she was an elf.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Zoey Deschanel has energy of like an entire workshop
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of santaz El's.
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: You're selling it for me.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: Look what, No, I like New Girl. Give it a
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: couple of episodes. Like anything else, you have to grow
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: to know the characters. But and it's a sycom. Sitcoms
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: rarely have like an amazing first episode because the setup
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: is heavy handed.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Usually okay, but if there's like a time travel authority
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: a New Girl, I am going to pull the plug.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: There is not. But but I have watched Rings of Power.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: It's okay, it's okay, that's okay. That's all I can say. Like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I wanted to be super drawn in. I wanted to
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: super like the characters. It's not that the characters are
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: unlikable or bad. It's just there are a couple characters
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I actually very much like. But as an overall story,
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: it just felt a little slow and just didn't And
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: I watched the entire first season except for the last episode,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: but I know what happened in it. It just didn't
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: grab me.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Well. This definitely looks like it's more along the lines
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: of grabbing me. I actually wouldn't mind seeing more animated
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: projects built around the Middle Earth world, especially if they
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: were to explore stories that Tolkien has told in various forms.
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's an enchanting way of doing that, and
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: it helps get around some of the issues I've had
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: with some of the live action stuff. I'm mostly thinking
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: about how much I hated the forty eight frames per
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: second high frame rate stuff that Peter Jackson did with
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: the Hobbit. I really didn't like that.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, same, same, I will say rings of power. Like
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: looking at the pre Hobbits, watching their stories is fun,
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: and then there's one of them sings a really nice
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: song that I very much like, So that's good.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I like to call them probits the pre Hobbits as
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: I knock over things in my in my studio.
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. But they also give you really good gut health.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you have to take a lot of probits
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: in order to make sure you stay regular. Okay, So
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: uh here here was a story that I thought was
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: interesting because it was a story that unfolded itself to
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: me gradually. And that is First of all, we got
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: a trailer for the theatrical release of Megapolis Megalopolis. That's
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the Francis Sport Coppola movie he he self funded like
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty million dollars to make with Adam
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Driver in the Leagues Megal Megal, snuffle up Agus, snuffle
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: up Agus.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: I watch, yeah, especially if it was like in the
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: Francis sport Copola style Adam Driver plays the main character.
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: It's it's essentially an allegory where you've got like a
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: uh set in a in a sort of science fiction
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: y future, but it's got like an ancient Rome thing.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: I was joking with Becca, I said, I think we
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: now like when that meme was going around about how
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: frequently does your guy think about the Roman Empire? Like
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: for Francis Ford Coppola, it's like all the freaking time. Yeah.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: But anyway, Adam Driver is like, has this vision for
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: the city of the future, and meanwhile there are people
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: who are crying out and saying like, you can't focus
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: on the city of the future. We need to we
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: need to deal with the issues of today, Like there
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: are people who are in need today in the City
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: of the future doesn't do them any good. And I
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: was getting like an an Rand fountain Head kind of
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: feel for it, where in that story, there's an architect
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: who is called upon to compromise and he refuses to
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: do it, and that makes him a hero. I will
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: spare you my thoughts on that novel, but I was
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: getting that kind of.
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: Vibet not great.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Anyway, the thing that was interesting
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: to me about this trailer, well, one, it doesn't answer
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: the question of are they going to have a thing
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: where every single screening a actual person, human being is
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: going to come down and talk to the screen.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if we know that answer yet.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's what happened at Can and Can when
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: they premiered it. They had a sequence where a live
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: actor appeared in front of the screen and interacted with
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: what was going on on screen. And at that time
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Ariel and I were like, how are you going to
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: do this for a wide release or you're just going
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: to cut that scene out? And if so, why did
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: it exist to begin with? Yeah?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: It only it's only going to be at Disney World.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: It's what's taking over the Muppet forty. It's just going
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: to be a person in a sweet of costume.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: I figure, you just put it, put it over next
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: to the Imagination Pavilion. At Epcot and it's Captain EO
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: used to be or Journey into Imagination or any of those. Well, anyway,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: the thing that that I thought was interesting about this
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: trailer was that it starts off with quotes from film
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: critics about past Francis Ford Coppola movies like The Godfather
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: and Apocalypse Now and Dracula, and the through line is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: that critics were panning these movies, which, with the exception
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: of Dracula, have subsequently turned into classics. Right, people are
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: like The Godfather is a film that that is on
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 2: like the top one hundred list for everybody. Apocalypse Now
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: is considered one of the greatest achievements, although it was
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: divisive when it first came out.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Problem Copola's Dracula is a classic.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: To me.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: It's got Gary Oldman. That's all you need.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Well, it's all you get because everything else is terrible
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: at it. Kenner was fine, Keana Reeves, they were you're very, very,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: very generous with your praise, or how about this. I
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: I have a different perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: I have a different perspective.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: We celebrate different perspectives.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, So, so the thing that turned out to be crazy.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: Is it turned out that all those quotes because like,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: like what the point they were making was this idea
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: that film critics have always dissed Francis Ford Coppola, but
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: over time have been proven wrong, that Coppola's work has
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: become these classics. There's one small problem.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: The quote, the quotes was real, but it wasn't for
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Francis Ford Coppola movie.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: It was for Batman.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Batman returns right.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: I think it was just Batman, just Batman. It was
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Roger Ebert or something like that there it was reference
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: to a beautiful Oh, it wasn't Roger Ebert because it
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: was the person who wrote the article who said, I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: actually did write Beautifulness, but not for Dracula. I wrote
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: it for Batman, which I mean, you could argue Dracula
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: is a Batman, but well.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: He also said I wish I had said it about
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Dracula because it seems almost too nice. Now looking back
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: at the film, the thing that surprises me is Lyons
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: Gategod did like immediately they say, they immediately pulled the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: trailer and apologize, saying we shouldn't have let this go out.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: We should have caught it and been like nope, but
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: you can still watch the trailer.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: So how did they Well, it's because the other other
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: outlets grabbed the trailer and uploaded it to their channels,
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: and so like the Mothership Channel, they pulled the trailer,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: but by then it was already distributed to these other outlets,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: like ign is the one that I pulled, But yeah,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: you can still watch the trailer and see all the
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: face critic responses. So, in other words, them trying to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: lay out this narrative of Francis Ford Coppola being unappreciated
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: by critics only for his works to become classics ends
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: up being unsupported because people are like, no, actually, people
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: really liked The Godfather when it came out. Apocalypse Now
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: was a little different, and of course Dracula was a,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: if you're being very kind, a beautiful mess.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: It is also interesting because after that some people came
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: out saying that, like during one of the big party scenes,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Copola was going around kissing women and giving them hugs,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: like kissing them on the cheek and giving them hugs.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: It didn't look like there's some video on Variety, It
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: doesn't look like he tried to French anybody, which in
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: face file. You could be like, that's not horrible. It
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: could just be an old man being nice. But apparently
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: some of these women were scantily clad. Heard mixed reports
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: on whether anybody felt camplained or felt unsafe about it.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: But it's also just a weird thing to do.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you could argue that that's like a generational thing,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: but that doesn't excuse it, right, Like yeah, Like Ariel
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: and I we will often talk about when we both
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: first started at the Georgia Renaissance Festival, the tone, both
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: on stage and off was a bit more body and flirty,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: Like it made me think of how high school theater
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: could be with like kids who are being a little
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: they're pushing the envelope, you know, they're they're being a
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: little naughty without without going. It makes me think of
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: the Crucible cast party sketch from SNL. It's like that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: being a little naughty. Uh, That's kind of how the
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: festival was. And then over time there was this realization of, oh,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: that's not really acceptable and you could be making it
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: a really hostile environment for people who don't feel comfortable
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: but also don't feel comfortable speaking up about it, and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: so so now for the better, I would argue it
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: there's that kind of environment's no longer tolerated, and it
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: has changed things and some things. You might say, Oh, well,
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a shame because the body stuff was fun.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, for maybe ninety percent, but even if
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: ten percent were uncomfortable, that's too many. Yeah.
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, But in this case, as far as from the
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: article on Variety, it doesn't sound like anybody other than
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: some of the people who were staff complained about it.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: But I will say, like, if I were a woman
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: who was cleared to be scantily clad or partially nude
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: in a scene, like, there's a difference.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: If I'm in a scene, in a big party scene
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: and the director comes up, that's great, that's amazing. If
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: he's like, good job and gives you a hug, that's wonderful.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: If I'm not wearing a shirt, I'm going to feel
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: differently about that.
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: Trust me, I should know what I'm just I don't know.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: I'm blacked out there for a second. No, for the record,
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: I've never been around areel with their shirt off.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: No. No, But it's it's so it's it could be generational,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: but it brings to question like because he did fund
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: this entire movie. Were their correct HR practices is did
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: nobody complain because everybody was fine with it? Or did
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: nobody complain because they didn't know who to complain to?
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You know, there's there's for big scenes like that where
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of nude people. The new industry standard
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: is to have a couple of intimacy coordinators on set
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: to make sure everybody's comfortable and safe. That is a
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: newer standard, full stop. You know a lot not everybody
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: still us like now now productions have to because it's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: being written into SAG rules, But that is very new.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: Not everybody understands the.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: Purpose right, so new in fact that that you know,
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: it's still a practice that's being codified. And and I've
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: heard some actors talk about how they've had actually scenes
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 2: made more difficult with the introduction of intimacy intimacy coordinators,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: And I think that's largely because it is so new
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: that best practices are still things that are being made now,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Like we don't have those best practices yet, that's still
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: being figured out, and in the process, things are not
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: always going to go smoothly. Plus, I mean occasionally you
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: are going to have a case where there's just going
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: to be friction between whomever is the coordinator, not that
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: kind yeah, your raunchy lass, but but yeah, friction between
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: the coordinator and the actors. Like, that's going to happen too.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: You're just gonna have like ties where personalities are going
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: to be like that. So I think overall the move
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: has been an incredibly positive one, But yeah, I think
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: in the meantime we're going to have those kind of
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: moments anyway, whether like when you're talking about like a
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: power dynamic situation, I think anytime, even if the person's
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: not scantily clad, you need to be real careful about
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: displays of affection because with that sort of power dynamic,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: you're not talking just about the director. He's the guy
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: who funded it. He's essentially the executive producer for the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: entire movie as well as the director. You, as an
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: actor probably feel somewhat intimidated if you're not feeling comfortable right,
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: like you can't feel like you can speak out.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: For sure, especially like if you're an extra, because there
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: is a big difference between having auditioned for something and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: being cherry picked and doing a rehearsal and then doing
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: a thing. Then being an extra there's I haven't been
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: an extra on much and it was a delightful time
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: when I was, but it is definitely different than being
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: an actor on set and you're like told, hey, don't
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: interact with the actors, and let's they interact with you
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of time, and so go higher up, Like
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: the director doesn't want to talk to an extra, You
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: talk to your extras coordinator if there's one.
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, which I mean again, like if you're
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: an extra and then the director comes up to hug you,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: that's weird, right, because like you're like, uh, Francis Ford Coppola,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: why are you talking to me a day player who
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: hasn't even doesn't even have a line.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Like one of the people who reported this did say
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: he grabbed a microphone later and said, if I come
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: up and hug you, uh, it's it's simply for my
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: pleasure or something like that, or my enjoyment or something
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: weird like that. So the person who did that doesn't go, well,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I said that, Yeah, that doesn't that doesn't feel good.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, very strange, Like well, this whole, this whole story,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: Like I have a feeling that sometime in the future,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: We're going to get a documentary about this movie. Uh,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: kind of like how The The Island of Doctor Moreau
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: has a documentary about the making of that total train
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: wreck of a film, would, which I also saw in
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: the theater. I feel like that needs to happen for
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: this as well, because it's such a strange swing and
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: in some ways I admire the audacity, like the desire
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: to create art. In other ways, I feel like this
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: is hubris so but having not seen it, I don't
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: really know. I just know that the critics who did
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: think that the screening at can was kind of an
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: enormous mess probably were justified in that estimation based upon
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: what I have read. But I don't know.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe i'd maybe.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: I'd watched it and say, oh, I don't I think
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: it was just brilliant.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you never know. I think if I
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: want to spend ten hours in one day, I can
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: watch Borderlands in Megalopolis as a bad movie night with
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: a bunch of people to pan it.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I can't say that.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: I haven't. I don't. I don't know. Oh, everything I've
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: heard about border Lands makes it sound to me like
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: it's not even the kind of movie where you can
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: do like a group hate watch and laugh about it,
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: like it just is like go ahead.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: One of my friends who saw it is not like
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: big into the Borderlands Lord and said it was fine enough.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: Every review I've heard I've like. I listened to a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: review by three content creators that I follow, who who
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: They were all negative about the film, but they were different.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: They were different levels of negative. There was one who
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: was like, that's not good. There's one who was like
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: that was bad, and there was one who was like,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: this is the worst video game adaptation I have ever seen. Yeah.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we do have one more story that I can't
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: talk about, so it's gonna be on you. Also, I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: just want to say, this episode is at an hour.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: We're in about ten minutes once you cut all of
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: my mess ups out, So I don't know how it
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: went so long. I thought we were just breezing right through.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: But we were, and then Megalopolis happened. Okay, Yeah, So
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: the last trailer that I watched, it was one that
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 2: I saw pop up just before we started recording, is
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: for a horror film called Director's Cut. It looks like
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: it's a really low budget horror film. The trailer. At least,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know that the movie's going to look this way,
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: but the trailer was doing that thing where you had
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: like the filter to give extra grain to the image,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: like it was an old VHS tape or something. And
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: the plot is there's this group of very young people
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: who are in a band it kind of looks like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be like a punk band, and they
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: are contacted by a man who offers to direct them
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: in a music video for free. They just have to
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: travel out to see him, and then it's like sociopathic
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: hilarity ensues. It does not look like it's a comedy.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 2: It looks like it's supposed to be a horror movie
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: about like either either a serial killer or maybe a
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: cult situation where the band is trapped and they're going
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: to be picked off. The reason why I brought it
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: up is because as I was watching the trailer, I
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: didn't think it looked like a particularly good movie, but
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: I was like, holy cal this is making me think
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: of so many of my friends who, at one point
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: or another, usually when they were younger, responded to something
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: on a social media platform that offered to get them
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: involved in a project. Without them really knowing anything about
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: the people responsible for that project and the bad things
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: that followed, Like I know people who got involved in
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: bad projects with bad people. And as I'm watching this,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, Wow, this preview is kind of hitting close
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 2: to home.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: It really is a thing, especially as like a starting entertainer,
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: because like you have to start with those little non
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: union homebrew jobs to try to get some experience.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Right, especially in Georgia.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I am laughing because obviously I didn't watch
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: this trailer. I didn't even know about it until you
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: mentioned it. I was like, well, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: watch this trailer, but I do want to like look
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  Speaker 1: up some screenshots so I can just envision what you're
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  Speaker 1: talking about. There are only a couple of screenshots when
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  Speaker 1: I search director's cut movie twenty twenty four of this
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  Speaker 1: particular movie, and then a whole bunch, whole bunch of
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  Speaker 1: Rebel Moon director's cut screen shots.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's also Wasn't was. I got to look it
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  Speaker 2: up now because I might be getting the name wrong, right.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So there was a director's cut film that
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  Speaker 2: also came out in twenty sixteen, which I own on
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  Speaker 2: Blu Ray and it's a film made by Penn Jillette
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  Speaker 2: of Penn and Teller, and in that movie, Penn plays
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  Speaker 2: this obsessive fan. He's totally obsessed with an actress who's
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  Speaker 2: played by Missy Pyle, but she's playing an actress within
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  Speaker 2: the context of this movie. And he's been a crowdfunding member,
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  Speaker 2: like he contributed to the making of this particular like
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to be a police procedural thriller kind of film,
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  Speaker 2: and his contribution is large enough that gives him access.
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  Speaker 2: He's allowed to be on set, and so he decides
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  Speaker 2: the movie they were making was not good. So what
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  Speaker 2: he's going to do is he's going to take the
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  Speaker 2: footage that was made and then he's going to kidnap
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  Speaker 2: Missy Pile, Missy Pile's character and force her to shoot
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  Speaker 2: the rest of the scenes to make the movie that
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  Speaker 2: it should be. And it's all about him putting himself
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  Speaker 2: in the role of like hero where Missy Pile's character
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  Speaker 2: is supposed to fall all over him. And it's an
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  Speaker 2: exploration of like obsessive fans, parasocial relationships as well as
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  Speaker 2: like the meta aspect of filmmaking. I can't say it's brilliant,
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  Speaker 2: but it definitely felt like it was a higher production
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  Speaker 2: value than Director's cut.
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  Speaker 1: It feels it feels it feels like it would probably
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  Speaker 1: be more my speed. And it also gives me just
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  Speaker 1: Tommy wizovibes.
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  Speaker 2: It is creepy. It's a very creepy movie, but it
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  Speaker 2: it does have a lot of comedy to it. So
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  Speaker 2: it's but yeah, like Tommy Wisseau is not a bad shout,
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty that's a pretty good analysis.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that is all we have to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this week. You know, I do think the death Knell
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  Speaker 1: is always saying it was a good episode, but the
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  Speaker 1: death niels always saying it's going to be a short
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  Speaker 1: episode because then we are like, well we have time
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  Speaker 1: to talk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't have to rush through like thirty seven
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  Speaker 2: trailers and sixteen stories.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and even then we talk. But you know, anyhow,
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  Speaker 1: it has been fun. If people want to reach out
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  Speaker 1: to us and talk about the fun that we've been
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  Speaker 1: having today, how do they do that?
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  Speaker 2: Jonathan? So what you're going to have to do is
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have to go outside, touch grass, start walking.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to keep walking till you hit the border
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  Speaker 2: and when you're on the border. You know, you're on
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  Speaker 2: the land where the border is. You're on the borderland.
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  Speaker 2: You're going to be real careful because if you're not
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  Speaker 2: real careful, to fall into a pit and you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: hear applause. That's the clap trap. Don't want to fall
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  Speaker 2: into the clap trap when you're on the borderland. So
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  Speaker 2: you want to be really careful because there's crazy people
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  Speaker 2: on that border land. I mean, you could call them psycho.
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  Speaker 2: They're just surrounded by psychos on the borderland near the
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  Speaker 2: clap trap. So you gotta be really careful about that.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're there, you got to look. There's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be a little girl. Her name's Tina. She is insufferable.
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  Speaker 2: You will hate her, but she's going to know where
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  Speaker 2: to bring you to come and see me. So you
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  Speaker 2: need to go with tiny Tina past the clap trap
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  Speaker 2: on the borderland and avoid all the psychos where point
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  Speaker 2: you can get to me. I'm going to be inside
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  Speaker 2: this big protective chamber. It's gonna have this huge, heavy
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  Speaker 2: door on it. You'd call it a vault if you like.
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  Speaker 2: It's a vault. So you need to hunt up the
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  Speaker 2: vault on the border Land, past the clap trap, avoiding
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  Speaker 2: the psychos following Tiny Tina in order to open the vault.
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  Speaker 2: Then you're gonna find me and I'll answer your question.
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  Speaker 1: If and if you were too just thrown back by
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan's totally Sigma move of telling people to touch grass
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  Speaker 1: and to hear his wonderful Borderland's parody. You can reach
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  Speaker 1: out to us on social media on Facebook and Instagram
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  Speaker 1: are LC Underscore podcast on Discord, We're Larger New Drunk Collider.
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  Speaker 1: Or you can email us at Larger drum Pot at
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  Speaker 1: gmail dot com. We really do love hearing from you,
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  Speaker 1: and until next time, I am Ariel, I'm still thrown
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  Speaker 1: by Touch Grass Castin.
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  Speaker 2: And I am Jonathan. I'm dancing. I'm dancing. Strickland. The
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  Speaker 2: Large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Caston and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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  Speaker 2: published again, cursed at by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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  Speaker 2: McLeod of incomptech dot com