Latest / The Courtroom Files / April 1 Court Hearings: Judge Boyd, Simpson, Middleton + More | TCF Podcast #262
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- 0:00Good morning, everybody. Happy Wednesday.
- 0:02Welcome to TCF LIVE. My name is Dan.
- 0:04I'll be with you for the next three hours of this journey
- 0:06through Courtlandia. We will get it started with
- 0:08Judge McNally. Come on.
- 0:15I understand. We'll get it started with Judge
- 0:17McNally just as learn it. Just as soon as I learned to do
- 0:202 things, speak and press buttons properly.
- 0:23Let's try again. Good morning you.
- 0:26Didn't make the on the on the 2:00 PM blows.
- 0:30He's telling me he thinks he just fell asleep.
- 0:32Missed those on the 2:00 AM blows.
- 0:36He was at work. He provided the four O clock
- 0:40specimen. Provided a noon specimen and
- 0:43from his memory. He thinks he might have been.
- 0:45Laid on one of them, but that that that's, that's his
- 0:49recollection. All right, we we talked about
- 0:52this. It's sobriety work this morning
- 0:54a little bit. The probation officer was here
- 0:57and as I, my understanding was it was just not submitting the
- 1:01timely blows. I'm going to go ahead and take
- 1:04it the plea as though that was the the case.
- 1:07If you plead guilty here, this would be for technical
- 1:10violations. You could have your probation
- 1:13revoked and you could be incarcerated for up to 93 days.
- 1:18Do you understand that? Yep.
- 1:20All right and did you sign read and understand the advice of
- 1:24rights you plead guilty, you'll be giving up all those rights
- 1:28and there will not be a hearing or a trial.
- 1:30Do you understand that? OK, your name, please.
- 1:35First one today for her right. All right.
- 1:38So my understanding is he just submitted he, he, he didn't blow
- 1:44into these timely, right? Correct.
- 1:48So the first two counts one and two that are listed, he did
- 1:52lowly. So they were I believe 40
- 1:55minutes late and 48 minutes late.
- 1:58Counts 3 and 4. He did not make up those.
- 2:00Flows. All right, So do you understand
- 2:02all the charges here? Yes, Sir.
- 2:04All right. So I'm going to ask you, can you
- 2:06understand if you plead guilty, you're giving up all, all of
- 2:08these rights on the advisor rights.
- 2:10True. All right, Mr. Sparrow, I do
- 2:15have a new appearance from you. Do I now?
- 2:16I will. I will get you one.
- 2:18I I did not follow. OK, I'm going to need I'm going
- 2:20to need you to do that here. Would you hand him one then,
- 2:23Sadie. All right.
- 2:24To the charge that you failed to blow into your sober link on
- 2:27March the 19th at 8:00 PM. How do you plead?
- 2:33Did you fail to blow into your sober link on March 19th?
- 2:35At 8:00 PM. Yes, Count 2 that you failed to
- 2:39blow into your sober link on March the 21st at 8:00 PM.
- 2:42How do you plead you failed to do that?
- 2:45Count 3 that you failed to blow in your silver link on March
- 2:4823rd at 8:00 AM. How do you plead Count 4 that
- 2:52you failed to blow in your silver link at 8:00 AM on March
- 2:55the 24? How do you plead All right, And
- 3:04did you feel the blow in your sober link at 8:00 AM on March
- 3:09the 23rd? Is that it's 8:00 AM on March
- 3:11the 24? No.
- 3:16I'm asking, did you fail to do that?
- 3:19Yes. All right.
- 3:20And then you did not blow into the sober link on the 19th at
- 3:248:00 or the 21st at 8:00 PM correct?
- 3:27Correct. All right, anybody forced to
- 3:31plead guilty? No, Sir, pleaser is accepted to
- 3:34those 4 counts. OK.
- 3:42Did he blow into the sober link on the 23rd at all?
- 3:46He did, yeah. How?
- 3:47How much longer after 8:00 AM? He did it and then and the.
- 3:52So the four hours later was the noon.
- 3:54How about on the 24th? Same with.
- 3:57That noon All right, anything you're speaking with Mr. Wilson,
- 4:03David, he has throughout this process, he's changed his work
- 4:09schedule that that is an adjustment on his last on the PM
- 4:13blows. I think he just, I, I, I think
- 4:16he just fell asleep early. That being said.
- 4:19He's taking some state of guards.
- 4:21He he now has his phone alarm set for the different 5 minutes
- 4:25before each blow of the day. He's now using a smart watch
- 4:28which will vibrate, which he wasn't using before when he has
- 4:30the kids at work. He's also got the Alexa set on
- 4:33his house to where it'll tell him that it's you know 755 or
- 4:38you know 355. That being said.
- 4:41Oh and and one of these also one of the 8 PMS he provided a urine
- 4:47sample of this morning as part of his drug reps You're on.
- 4:53If this was a situation where I don't disagree.
- 4:55If if this was a situation where I think he was trying to gain
- 4:59the system. And he drank.
- 5:00I would have much different argument.
- 5:02I got it all right. I would ask you to continue to
- 5:05lock anything. Value I mean that.
- 5:09I messed up. I wasn't trying to pizza.
- 5:13Quarter or anything? Just no, you just have to be a
- 5:15little bit more diligent, OK, 4 hours community service by April
- 5:1921 and $50 a cost you can pay that by April 29.
- 5:23OK. All right.
- 5:26Thank you so much, very much. All right, So this was the
- 5:30beginning of your career there, Miss Raptis?
- 5:33Yeah. All right.
- 5:34Thank you. Real quick, Ashley was today the
- 5:39day that the the couple in Ingham County, Michigan that was
- 5:43in front of magistrate God sees today the day they were supposed
- 5:46to be in front of Judge Hillman. Let me know please. 267841057
- 5:57Your name Justin. Where were you?
- 6:04I was at the. Wrong floor I have I have a
- 6:06ticket in Canton for an overweight ticket.
- 6:09For. The Warcraft and I went to turn
- 6:12off after Canton thought that that was where I needed to be
- 6:16and I by the time I got back here.
- 6:18It was already too late and missed them right?
- 6:23I don't remember. Did did you have a lawyer before
- 6:26or did you waive your right to a lawyer?
- 6:28This is an anti blight case. Yeah, This is the one you
- 6:31recommended that I talk to the prosecutor that.
- 6:33Why? I mean, if you want a lawyer,
- 6:35I'm going to give you a lawyer. Yeah, I need, I need to tell the
- 6:38prosecutor. OK.
- 6:39But listen, I'm talking about a defense lawyer.
- 6:43Do you do you want a defense lawyer to represent?
- 6:47You. He waved.
- 6:48He waved an attorney last time, judge.
- 6:51OK, so if you want a lawyer, I'll still give you 1.
- 6:54If not, I'll just send you to the prosecutor to talk about
- 6:56this. Yeah.
- 7:00OK, so you you don't want a lawyer.
- 7:03I'm not trying to confuse you. I'm just asking.
- 7:12Tell you what, I'll send you to the prosecutor if you if you
- 7:16change your mind between now and the time he comes and gets you.
- 7:18Just come on back in and I'll give you a lawyer.
- 7:21OK. All right.
- 7:22Thank you. That's Eli, isn't it?
- 7:26How you doing? I've been wondering when you
- 7:29were coming in. You got.
- 7:30You don't need to come in the back with us.
- 7:34I'm just saying when you're coming in here, you, you're
- 7:37fine. All right.
- 7:38Vijaygas. Andriana Giselle Vijaygas 26 W
- 7:4484-O321. Good morning, Miss Aycock.
- 7:47Your name. Good morning, Your Honor.
- 7:50Leslie Aycock, On behalf of the defendant, Miss Bugas, who's
- 7:53present to my right, can you please state your name for the
- 7:54court this morning? Adriana Villegas.
- 7:57All right, so you met with the prosecutor.
- 7:59He the the prosecutor is going to dismiss the Super drunk
- 8:02charge and your client is going to plead to operating while
- 8:06impaired. True.
- 8:08Correct, your Honor. Is that what you want to do,
- 8:10ma'am? Yes, your Honor.
- 8:13If you plead guilty to that charge, the possible penalties
- 8:16are up to 300 fines, 93 days jail, 360 hours community
- 8:20service, court costs. Of all those four points, your
- 8:23license will be suspended or revoked in accordance with your
- 8:26record. Your vehicle could be or might
- 8:28have to be immobilized, depending upon your record.
- 8:31You understand that? Yes, your Honor.
- 8:34You are presumed innocent. They have to prove you're guilty
- 8:37beyond a reasonable doubt. You have the right to remain
- 8:39silent. You don't have to testify at a
- 8:42trial. If you choose not to testify, if
- 8:44it goes to trial, that silence would not be held against you.
- 8:48You can testify at a trial if you so choose.
- 8:50You do have the right at a trial to question their witnesses, to
- 8:54use the subpoena powers the court to bring in your own
- 8:56witnesses. Do you understand that?
- 8:59Yes, your Honor. By pleading guilty here, though,
- 9:02you're waiving your right to a trial of any kind, jury or
- 9:05judge. Do you understand that?
- 9:07Yes, your Honor. All right to the charge of
- 9:10operating will visibly impaired. How do you plead?
- 9:14Guilty. Were you operating a motor
- 9:16vehicle in the city of Woodhaven on Westerner Ford Lane in
- 9:19Woodhaven at 2:50 in the morning on January 10 of 26?
- 9:24Yes, your Honor. Did you drink alcohol prior to
- 9:26that and if So, what did you drink and how much?
- 9:30Yes, I did, and I had two beers, one Margarita and two shots.
- 9:37Two shots of what? Tequila.
- 9:40All right. And was your ability to operate
- 9:43the motor vehicle impaired due to the consumption of that
- 9:45alcohol, and if so, in what way? Yes, your Honor, in I and the
- 9:56way that I hit a curb on the way out and then it caused my car to
- 10:01break down. You think you did that at least
- 10:06in part because of your alcohol consumption.
- 10:09Yes. Mr. Ecock, this was Was this a
- 10:15blood draw or an intoxilizer? Intoxilizer, Your Honor.
- 10:19You stipulate that the results of old .175 were accurate.
- 10:24Yes, we stipulate. Are you on probation or parole
- 10:27right now, Miss Bejagus? No, Your Honor.
- 10:31Anybody force you to plead guilty?
- 10:33No. I'm going to accept your guilty
- 10:36plea to operating while impaired.
- 10:38I'm going to go ahead and dismiss the Super drunk.
- 10:41I'm going to refer you for a screening and assessment.
- 10:44You're going to be screened and assessed today.
- 10:45So I'm going to ask you to come to the courthouse.
- 10:48You go to probation, you'll fill out a question and you'll be
- 10:51interviewed, and then you'll come back for sentencing.
- 10:53OK. OK.
- 10:55All right, so let's pick out a second state.
- 10:57Heather, what do you have for me?
- 10:59Any interest in Cortex School on April 30th?
- 11:04Where's that one at? Charter High School.
- 11:08I'm. Sorry, I'm going to be in Wayne
- 11:10County Circuit Court in front of Judge Wanda Evans that morning.
- 11:13I would not be available. What time is that at?
- 11:169:00 AM me. Yeah.
- 11:19From. 9:00 AM. That's court, that's court of
- 11:23school time. So we could do April 15th at
- 11:278:30, April 15th at 8:30, OK. Yes, as long as the courts.
- 11:35I do have a felony a circuit. Court Zoom hearing at. 9 So I
- 11:39might kind of be bouncing back and forth.
- 11:42Yeah, let's just set another day.
- 11:43I don't need this to be on a Woodhaven Docket day, Heather.
- 11:46Why don't we set it on a Monday? There's no restitution.
- 11:51So you want to do the April 20th, that's a landlord Tenant
- 11:57Day, but you want to put it in on that day or the 13th at 8:30.
- 12:01What's your choice? I'm not available the 13th, the
- 12:0520th I'm I'm open in the morning.
- 12:08You are open. On the 20th, correct?
- 12:10April 20th at 8:30 OK. Thank you, Your honor.
- 12:14And you come on up here now, ma'am.
- 12:16OK. Good luck to you.
- 12:17Thank you. Thank you.
- 12:21Hurtado, Evan standing. Hurtado file #26W841254-A Your
- 12:30appearance Good morning, honor. Greg Boulahanis P36431-ON behalf
- 12:37of Evan Hurtado, Mr. Hurtado, your name, Sir.
- 12:42Yes, Sir. Evan Hurtado all.
- 12:44Right. So this is going to be a plea.
- 12:46I'm sorry. You pled your client, pled
- 12:47guilty to operating while impurity was referred for a
- 12:51screening and assessment. Have you had a chance to review
- 12:54review the report with him? And are there any material
- 12:56additions, corrections or deletions?
- 12:58Yes, I have. And there's no material
- 13:00additions, corrections or deletions.
- 13:02Just very brief elocution. Sure, go ahead.
- 13:06Yeah, I know. I just want to make the court
- 13:08aware that Mister Hurtado is working full time.
- 13:12He's employed full time and he's also attending school for global
- 13:19chain management. And so he's, he's been pretty
- 13:26busy. He's, he's already done a as a
- 13:31proactive measure before the sentencing.
- 13:35He's done a alcohol drug awareness class to get ahead of,
- 13:42to help get ahead of this. So they ask the court to adopt
- 13:45the recommendation of the court probation.
- 13:57Anything you'd like to say, Mr. Hurtado?
- 14:01No, Your Honor. Why do I get the feeling when I
- 14:05read this report that you're underachieving?
- 14:08Maybe it's just me. You went to U of D Jesuit and
- 14:12you graduated, right? Yes, your Honor.
- 14:17And you've gotten yourself in trouble now twice in a very
- 14:20short period of time. And MDOP 1000 or more, but less
- 14:23than 20, right? Yes, Your Honor, that's a
- 14:29felony. You're on height of probation
- 14:31for that. And then you're in there and
- 14:34you're driving drunk and you got alcohol in the car and you got
- 14:38tobacco in the car, and you're only 20 years old.
- 14:43It's time to kind of grow up here, young man.
- 14:46Look at me, please. I'm dead serious about what I'm
- 14:50telling you. You can't be doing this.
- 15:01You you don't want to ruin your life before you get started
- 15:04here. 12 months probation. You cannot leave the state
- 15:09without the consent of the court or violate any law or ordinance.
- 15:12If you change your address, place of employment or home
- 15:15telephone number, you must notify probation.
- 15:18You have to report as direct. No alcohol, no marijuana, no
- 15:25illegal controlled substances. You're not the purchase
- 15:27possessor. Consume any one of those.
- 15:30I'm a little I'm not going to make the testing just monthly.
- 15:34I'm going to make it bi weekly for three months bi weekly for
- 15:37three months, then monthly for three then on demand prayed and
- 15:50poppy seed and CBD oils are prohibited.
- 15:52Consuming food or other items contain those substances will be
- 15:55deemed A violation. Did your first offense involve
- 15:59alcohol or drugs in any form or fashion Sir?
- 16:02Did your? First offense involve alcohol.
- 16:06Yes, your honor, I'm. Going to order outpatient
- 16:09substance abuse treatment here. He scored in category four.
- 16:13I want you to. And have you shown your lawyer?
- 16:16Well, yeah, I'm not going to. I want you to go to a A twice a
- 16:20week in person until you're in outpatient treatment.
- 16:23So you go to outpatient treatment A A twice a week, he's
- 16:27going to hand you a form. I want you to go in person.
- 16:29Every time you go, you have to have the form signed.
- 16:32Every time you come to court, you have to bring the form with
- 16:35you. When I'm talking about that, I
- 16:36mean probation or otherwise. Once you get in outpatient, you
- 16:41no longer have to attend a, a Iranian.
- 16:44Do you understand that? Yes, Sir.
- 16:46Honor, I'm also going to order that you go to the Victims
- 16:48Impact Panel. That's one night put on by
- 16:51Mothers Against Drunk Drivers. I'm in order that you pay fines
- 16:54of 300, cost of two 5075 victims rights fee $50, justice
- 17:00assessment. So fines and costs here amount
- 17:03to 675. Screening fees 60 for 735.
- 17:06Probation fees are 240 for 975. Cost of recovery Cost of
- 17:11recovery is 150 for a total of 1000, $125.00 I'm also going to
- 17:19order that you serve five days jail.
- 17:22I'll give you credit for one. I'm going to have you serve the
- 17:24other four on the court work program, $140.00 For that $35 a
- 17:31day, your total there are amounts to $12165.
- 17:36You may be eligible for early discharge if you are compliant
- 17:40with no prior violations within the preceding 90 days.
- 17:45After six months, you can come in here and you can file a
- 17:50petition for early discharge. Listen, I, I mean what I'm
- 17:54telling him, not trying to make you feel bad.
- 17:56You have to get your life in order here.
- 17:58You're driving around. I mean, you drove into a ditch,
- 18:01you're on felony probation, you got alcohol in the car, and
- 18:04you're not even able to legally drink yet.
- 18:07Come on, don't do this to yourself.
- 18:11You have 21 days to appeal, 14 days to apply for a court
- 18:14appointed lawyer for purposes of appeal if you cannot afford one.
- 18:17Do you understand that? All right, Mr. Boulahanis, does
- 18:21he have all of this to pay? Yes, he can pay that.
- 18:26He can pay the 1265 today, Your Honor.
- 18:29And in addition, I was going to ask, may he come up to the court
- 18:32to talk to the probation today? That would be great.
- 18:35That would be great. So come on up, make your payment
- 18:37and then you'll go to probation. They'll they'll instruct you OK
- 18:40and provide you with a copy of the order.
- 18:43Come on. Do better than this year.
- 18:44I know you can. Good luck.
- 18:46Thank you. Thanks.
- 18:47Do. I have Jonathan Hubbard here.
- 18:53Jonathan Hubbard here. Do I have 123 towing and and
- 18:57recover? Come on up here, Sir, 268841854
- 19:03and I'm going to ask you to call in Mr. McDermott.
- 19:05As soon as I get yours I will call that.
- 19:10Your name? Michael Shane Chen.
- 19:13E Tell me you didn't drive here from Houghton Lake.
- 19:16Excuse me? You didn't drive here from
- 19:19Houghton Lake, did you? Well, when I worked downstate,
- 19:23I'm in the area. I can't let you.
- 19:26This is a corporation, right? Yes.
- 19:29I can't let you appear on behalf of the corporation.
- 19:31I'm sorry. I just can't do it.
- 19:33It's not my rule. I just can't do it.
- 19:36You're going to have to hire a lawyer.
- 19:37I'll give you an adjournment, but I cannot allow you to appear
- 19:41on behalf of the corporation. OK, I'm sorry.
- 19:43Not my rule. All right, so I will, I will
- 19:47adjourn this. Oh, wait a minute.
- 19:49We issued a we issued a show cause against you for failure to
- 19:52appear and defend the corporation.
- 19:53This is actually going to be a a show cause.
- 19:56Why haven't you shown up? Because once I got backed up to
- 20:00hold my leg, I work down here to the least.
- 20:04Then I go back and I stay did. You call the court and say, can
- 20:08I adjourn it? No, because I didn't know that
- 20:12the the letter pain was available.
- 20:18Can you spell your name for me? Cheney, Michael.
- 20:24MICHAE, GAIL. And you are the president of the
- 20:28corporation. Yes, I'm the owner.
- 20:32But this is a corporation, right?
- 20:34Right. What was the LLC business?
- 20:36I understand. So listen, what I'm going to do
- 20:39is I'll adjourn this, but you need to hire a lawyer.
- 20:41I'm not trying to make lawyers money, but I can't let somebody
- 20:44appear on behalf of a corporation except a lawyer.
- 20:46OK, All right. So I'll is 2 weeks enough time
- 20:51to give you to go get a lawyer? Yes.
- 20:54We have April 15th, right, Heather?
- 20:56That's. Correct.
- 20:58You want me to make it a little later in the morning for you?
- 21:01Yes. How about 10:30?
- 21:03Is that good enough? It's M30.
- 21:05So you hire that lawyer, we will give you a notice down the hall.
- 21:14OK. Can you call me the prosecutor
- 21:16for me, please? Sadie 249.
- 21:19And you're all set. All right.
- 21:22Thank you. All right.
- 21:22Good luck. Pause real quick in the action.
- 21:30I'm using pause a lot lately, but maybe that's a good thing.
- 21:33We've seen this a couple of times in Judge Mcnally's court
- 21:36now where somebody shows up to represent themselves as as it
- 21:42pertains to their LLC or corporation.
- 21:44So I looked this up. In Michigan, a corporation or an
- 21:48LLC must be represented by a licensed attorney in most
- 21:51courts, district, or circuit even if the owner is the sole
- 21:56member. Non lawyer owners officers
- 21:59cannot represent a corporate entity as this is considered
- 22:02unauthorized practice of law and it is actually MCL 450.681.
- 22:09It shall be unlawful for any corporation or voluntary
- 22:12association to practice law or appear as attorney at law for
- 22:16any person other than itself in any court in this state or
- 22:20before any judicial body. So that sounds to me like a law
- 22:25that was written by the lawyers to make sure they had more
- 22:27business. But yeah, even if it's an LLC
- 22:30and you are the only member of that LLC, you cannot represent
- 22:33yourself in the state of Michigan.
- 22:35Back to it. Judge, we also do have one in
- 22:41Calhoun County Jail. Who's representing the Who's
- 22:45representing him? Mr. Crawford, he's already on.
- 22:49That with. Him.
- 22:50He's on Zoom here also. OK, let's take this real quick.
- 22:53Derek Schultz. Derek Michael Schultz.
- 22:56I have 268841842 AB and C. I'm going to need Mr. Urich in
- 23:06about 10 minutes. Lieutenant.
- 23:07OK, where is Mr. Crawford? Mr. Crawford, your appearance.
- 23:17Mr. Crawford, your appearance, Sir.
- 23:24Shows that he's out here. You have Mcdermott's file, Mr.
- 23:30McDermott? Sure we'd.
- 23:34Be gone? Was it a file?
- 23:36Mr. McDermott, what case do you have, Sir?
- 23:39A Dylan Jacob Barden Judge What? Prosecutor.
- 23:43Is that? Did you talk to the prosecutor?
- 23:45Already. Yeah, we just.
- 23:47Need an adjournment so my client can take a driving class.
- 23:51I don't know why they keep sending me that nonsense.
- 23:56I'm going to call him in on that too.
- 24:08I don't either, but I'd like to get this gentleman out of the
- 24:13county here. He just poked his head in there
- 24:21for about 7 seconds and. He got it, I don't.
- 24:26Know Dylan Jacob Bardon, 267841449-A and BI Know Sean
- 24:32McDermott, half of Mr. Bardon. Judge, I have spoken to the
- 24:36professor Mr. Urich, your name? William Urich.
- 24:40I have the city of Woodhaven. What do you want?
- 24:46A traffic. What?
- 24:47I don't want to do these classes.
- 24:49He's going 38 into 25, right? Well, the issue was your honor,
- 24:54and I apologize. For leaving my.
- 24:56Cold that's OK the issue was your honor that he blew a number
- 25:03of stop signs before the officer finally cited.
- 25:06We really need you know these traffic classes.
- 25:09I'm sorry. I just, I do we need a traffic
- 25:14class to tell us that we're not supposed to run through stop
- 25:16sunnies. I mean, what, what, what, what
- 25:20planet would you have to be on to to have to go to a Traffic
- 25:24Safety school to know that you don't run stops?
- 25:28I just don't believe in these classes.
- 25:30I'm sorry. If you want to play a harder
- 25:34role, that's up to you. You, you guys would I I don't
- 25:36want to journey these out and have these guys go do me set up
- 25:40for a formal then, your honor, it would serve the same purpose.
- 25:43How long is it going to take him to get through the class inside?
- 25:4630 days, Judge. Why is he?
- 25:48Why is he? So the issue.
- 25:50Is the young man, who is a young man, had a hazardous action on
- 25:53the moped? Where's he at?
- 25:55Where's he at? I think it would be nice for him
- 25:58to be here next time I can have him, but I'd like to talk to
- 26:03him. If he's going to drive like
- 26:04this, maybe he needs to push the car.
- 26:06So I'll go ahead and I'll go ahead and adjourn it.
- 26:09Thank you, Josh. For four weeks, But that's it,
- 26:12though. OK.
- 26:12And I really want your client on Zoom next time, Mr. McDermott.
- 26:16OK, He'll be there, Judge. All right, adjourn it to the
- 26:1929th. Is that going to give everybody
- 26:21enough time? Yes, Coach.
- 26:23I just don't want Mr. Urich. We'll do it at 9:00.
- 26:30OK. April 29th.
- 26:32I just really don't want to do these class things.
- 26:34OK, I I really don't in the future.
- 26:36All right, understand. OK, So I'll make this one April
- 26:3929th. Thank you.
- 26:40People against Schultz, Derek Michael Schultz, 268841842A and
- 26:45B&C. Mr. Crawford, your appearance.
- 26:48Good morning, Your honor. Michael Crawford, representing
- 26:51Mr. Schultz. Mr. Schultz, please state your
- 26:52name for the record. Derek Michael Schultz I have a
- 26:56possession of a controlled substance charge.
- 27:00I have a possession of drug paraphernalia and.
- 27:03I have. A retail fraud charge, as I
- 27:06understand. First of all, does he stand mute
- 27:08and wave formal reading on those?
- 27:10Yes, your Honor. All right, So I'll enter Inact
- 27:14guilty please form. Now as I understand he's going
- 27:16to plead guilty to possession of drug paraphernalia and and
- 27:22attempted retail fraud. Is that true?
- 27:26That's correct, Your Honor. All right, and Sir, state your
- 27:32name again, nice and loud for me, please.
- 27:35Derek. Schultz All right, so if you
- 27:38plead guilty, did you hear what your lawyer said?
- 27:41Yes, Your Honor, if you plead guilty to a drug paraphernalia
- 27:45possession, the possible penalties are up to 500 fines,
- 27:4990 days jail costs are all those.
- 27:51If you plead guilty to attempted retail fraud, the possible
- 27:54penalties are up to 250 fines, 45 days jail plus costs or all
- 27:59of those penalties. Do you understand that?
- 28:02Yes, Yes, Your Honor. And if you plead guilty to those
- 28:05two charges, I'm going to go ahead and dismiss the retail
- 28:09fraud charge on motion of the prosecutor.
- 28:12And I'm all and I'm also going to dismiss the possession of a
- 28:16controlled substance on motion of the of the prosecutor if you
- 28:20understand them. Yes, your Honor.
- 28:22Now you are presumed innocent. They have to prove you're guilty
- 28:25beyond a reasonable doubt. You have the right to remain
- 28:27silent. You have the right to trial by
- 28:29court or jury. You have the right to question
- 28:32their witnesses, to bring in your own, to use the subpoena
- 28:35powers the court to bring in those witnesses.
- 28:39Mr. Crawford, are you, what are you doing?
- 28:42Are you on? Are you on something else?
- 28:46No, you're on it. I thought you were talking to
- 28:50somebody I didn't know. I'm looking at a file while
- 28:52while I'm listening to you, your honor.
- 28:53OK. If you plead guilty, you're
- 28:56you're going to be giving up all those rights and we're not going
- 28:58to have a hearing or a trial. Do you understand me?
- 29:01Yes, your Honor. You understand you're waving
- 29:03your right to a trial by pleading guilty.
- 29:05You're waving the presumption of innocence.
- 29:06You're waiving the requirement that they prove you're guilty
- 29:08beyond the doubt. Do you understand them?
- 29:11Yes, your Honor. To the charge of possession of
- 29:15drug periphery, how do you plead?
- 29:18Guilty, Your Honor. Did the charge attempted retail
- 29:20fraud? How do you plead?
- 29:22Guilty, Your Honor. Were you in the Home Depot store
- 29:30on Allen Rd. in the city of Woodhaven on February 3 of 26 at
- 29:348:13 PM? Yes.
- 29:37Yes, your Honor. And were you in possession of
- 29:39drug paraphernalia? And if So, what were you in
- 29:41possession of and what did you use that paraphernalia for?
- 29:46Yes, your honor, it was a water pipe for LSD.
- 29:50All right. And and did you committed the
- 29:52offense of retail fraud? Yes, your Honor.
- 29:56So I'll ask you again to the charge retail fraud, how do you
- 29:59plead? Guilty, Your Honor.
- 30:02Did you attempt to take property or did you take property that
- 30:04was offered for sale without paying for it, the intent to
- 30:08permanently deprive the owner, Home Depot, of that property?
- 30:12Yes, Your Honor, what did you take?
- 30:16I didn't take nothing, but I was going to take a some.
- 30:20Drill bits. Some what?
- 30:22Drill bits. Yeah, but I didn't take them.
- 30:27Well, you must have taken something or not.
- 30:29You didn't. You didn't put those in your
- 30:31pocket or conceal those initially in any way?
- 30:36Yes. Yes, Your Honor, I did.
- 30:37You didn't get past the point. Hang on, slow down.
- 30:40But you didn't get past the toy. Where did you put those?
- 30:45In my pocket, Sir. All right.
- 30:47And then, but you didn't get passed the register, I think is
- 30:49what you're telling me, correct? Correct.
- 30:52Yeah, Yeah, correct. Your Honor, somebody apprehended
- 30:55you in the store before you got passed the register.
- 30:59Yes, your Honor. But at the time that you put
- 31:01those items in your pocket, did you intend to deprive Myers of
- 31:05the, I'm sorry, Home Depot of that property?
- 31:08Yes, your Honor. Right now, are you on probation
- 31:11or parole? No, Your Honor.
- 31:15Anybody force you to plead guilty or promise you anything
- 31:17to induce you to plead guilty other than a dismissal of the
- 31:22controlled substance charge and retail fraud charge?
- 31:26No, Your Honor. OK, I'm going to find the pleas
- 31:28have been made voluntarily and understandingly.
- 31:30I'm accepting the plea to attempted retail fraud and drug
- 31:34paraphernalia. I'm dismissing the retail fraud
- 31:37charge. I'm also dismissing on motion to
- 31:40prosecute possession of a controlled substance.
- 31:42Why? Why is he in custody and for how
- 31:44long, Mr. Crawford? Your Honor, my client is in
- 31:47custody for another drug possession charge.
- 31:53Your Honor, it's pending. He's in the process of working
- 31:56out a plea agreement there, but it's based upon getting things
- 32:00at least resolved here. Your Honor, my, my client admits
- 32:03he's got a drug problem. He's trying to get into drug
- 32:05treatment and he's taking responsibility for that by
- 32:08pleading guilty now. And to the other matter, he's
- 32:10been in custody now already, your Honor, for.
- 32:12For two months. That happened after this case or
- 32:18before. Yes, yes, it.
- 32:20Happened. It happened.
- 32:22Before. This case, Your Honor, but the
- 32:23warrant came out when I got picked up for this case.
- 32:27They picked me up from Woodhaven.
- 32:29Do you have do you live on Buff St.
- 32:31New Haven? No, I live in Rochester now.
- 32:39OK, Can you give me the address? 591 Lesperance Dr. You're going
- 32:46to have to spell that. Hang on. 591 What?
- 32:53Lesperance. LESPERANCE.
- 33:00Lesperance Drive in Rochester Hills is it?
- 33:04Yes Sir, 48307. What kind of a bond does he have
- 33:15in that case? Mr. Crawford out of Calhoun.
- 33:19You're on? I'm not exactly sure, Sir.
- 33:20Could you state what your bond is?
- 33:2325,000 Cash Cash. What would the court considers a
- 33:32sentence to my client to the time served?
- 33:36This is this is a bad, bad, bad, bad, bad record.
- 33:40Well, he's, he's got a drug problem, your honor.
- 33:41He's been played with it for some time and he's trying to get
- 33:44it in order now, but he doesn't deny it.
- 33:48Yeah, I've, I've never been. I do have a record.
- 33:50It's from the past. Well, everything's from the
- 33:53past. There's of course you're not
- 33:55convicted of anything from the future yet, but you've got cases
- 33:58dating back to O6. Yeah.
- 34:02I'm trying to, You've had 20 years to get your act together
- 34:05and you're not doing it. I, I recently, I went through a
- 34:09divorce couple years ago and kind of fell off the deep end.
- 34:12I'm not making well, You've been off the deep end as far as I can
- 34:14tell, since 05:00 or 6. I mean, not many women are going
- 34:20to want to stay with somebody that's constantly in prison or
- 34:23jail. I mean, I, I mean, they're out
- 34:26there. They'll still do with some of
- 34:28them, but this record's bad. All right, Look, I don't want to
- 34:32sentence them. I want to, I want to look at
- 34:34this. I'm not going to order a presets
- 34:37report. Let me think of what I'm going
- 34:43to do here. One is Mr. Crawford here again.
- 34:51Heather, are you here in two weeks?
- 34:54I should be, God willing. He yeah, Judge, he is our
- 34:57Woodhaven House counsel. I'm going to do sets date April
- 35:03the 15th. You tell me what's best time for
- 35:06them to put them before a camera if you know they seem to be they
- 35:11I just notified them on Friday of the state because I was
- 35:14notified he was in Calhoun County and they got him on
- 35:18today. So they seem to be.
- 35:19Pretty flexible. What's what time do you want it?
- 35:22What time did you set this one? 8:30.
- 35:26Well, let's do the same 8:30. Boy, you got to get your life in
- 35:41order. You're only what, 38?
- 35:47Pardon. 37 Your honor, I'll just let it go with that.
- 35:55I would like to see Heather, if we can get something just
- 35:59confirming is in custody on that and has been for whatever length
- 36:05of time on that 25,000 cash bond.
- 36:07But I'm not ordering a screening.
- 36:09I'm not ordering a presets report.
- 36:13Good luck. We'll see you back here.
- 36:15Do you want to put? A bond on this one.
- 36:17I forgot to do that. Thank you.
- 36:19See, that's a good thing. Mr. Croft.
- 36:21Will you surround yourself with smart people and then they can
- 36:24correct your mistakes? Absolutely.
- 36:26Good job, Heather. All right, I'm going to make it.
- 36:30Thank you very much for remind. Reminding me, all right, I'm
- 36:36just going to, I'm going to give you a personal bond, $5000.
- 36:40Don't take that the wrong way. I'm probably just going to end
- 36:43up giving him credit for time served.
- 36:45It sounds like he's got a lot of other fish to fry here.
- 36:48No alcohol or controlled substances.
- 36:53Not to enter any Home Depot. Not to enter any Home Depot.
- 36:57You cannot leave the state without the consent of the court
- 37:00or violate a law. And Mr. Puritan Porter's direct
- 37:03also again. So no alcohol, no illegal drugs,
- 37:08no marijuana cannot leave the state, cannot violate a law,
- 37:12must appear in Florida's directed.
- 37:13You're not to go near Home Depot, any Home Depot.
- 37:17Do you understand that? Yes, your Honor.
- 37:20We'll send you in a couple weeks.
- 37:21OK, Thank you. Let's call in this.
- 37:26All right, apparently the pre cogs are offline this morning as
- 37:29a few minutes ago Judge McNally confirmed there are no future
- 37:32crimes being heard in his court this morning.
- 37:35Good morning everybody. My name is Dan.
- 37:37Welcome to TCF. Judging by the stats, there are
- 37:39a few new people out there. Please do say good morning to us
- 37:42in the chat. Let's change it up.
- 37:44Let's go down to Florida. See what's going on with Wade
- 37:48Mercer. Count of aggravated child abuse.
- 37:53Miss Rich, there is probable cause for the charge.
- 37:57I'm the judge that was asked to review the warrant and sign it.
- 38:00Mr. Axon, I found probable cause, but I I felt like it was
- 38:04very close to a regular child abuse, but I thought there was
- 38:09enough for probable cause. I have no idea how the state
- 38:12will choose to go forward with it when they get a chance to
- 38:15review it. I also looked at your criminal
- 38:17history, which had one prior battery that was dismissed.
- 38:20That's the only thing I saw. So Mr. Axon, anything on behalf
- 38:24of Miss Richard, you want to make sure I'm aware of John or
- 38:26other than the her lack of criminal history?
- 38:28She is also a Jackson County resident.
- 38:31She has multiple minor children, one of which is, I believe,
- 38:37placed by DCF, and I think that's the victim in this case.
- 38:40We would ask that she would be able to have contact as allowed
- 38:44by DCF with that minor child. She also has 2, I believe, two
- 38:48other minor children who have not been placed by DCF, so
- 38:51they're still in her custody. And so we'd ask for no violent
- 38:55contact for the them minor children.
- 38:57We've also asked for a low bond. I don't believe she's a flight
- 38:59risk based on those and she's not a danger to the community.
- 39:03Is there a case plan involved with the other children?
- 39:05Your Honor, I've not gotten involved with the DCF case, so
- 39:08I'm not sure on that at this point.
- 39:10Do you mind if I ask your client that question?
- 39:11I have not. I just, if DCFS are other
- 39:13restrictions involved in other children, I'm probably going to
- 39:15say the same thing, comply with DCF case plan.
- 39:18Miss Rich, is there a case plan involved in the other children?
- 39:21There's a safety plan and the ones that are removed and not
- 39:25the ones that are with me to my knowledge.
- 39:28OK, I'm a little confused because I I understood there to
- 39:31be only one removed. How many children have been
- 39:33removed? Now I haven't.
- 39:35I have not received removal paperwork on any of them.
- 39:39OK. But DCF did place my five older
- 39:43children with their dad for the investigation.
- 39:47OK. And then how many other children
- 39:49did they not place with him? Two that are with me.
- 39:54OK. So, and of those two, there's a
- 39:55safety plan, a voluntary safety plan in place, is that right?
- 39:58Yes, yes, I believe so. Where you agreed to XY and Z and
- 40:02they said, OK, we'll keep an eye on things.
- 40:04That kind of a deal, right? Yes, Sir.
- 40:06And the only history you have is that one battery case that was
- 40:09dismissed, correct? Yes, Sir.
- 40:12OK, Mr. Mitchell. We will leave the amount of bond
- 40:16up to the court, but As for the contact, we're not an objection
- 40:20to no violent contact as long as she adheres to whatever safety
- 40:25plan or DCF plan is in place. So.
- 40:32If I if it had been with no history, if it had been regular
- 40:36child abuse, not aggravated, it would have been a second degree
- 40:39felony or third. I need to look at that statue
- 40:42because child abuse. Mr. I think it's a third degree.
- 40:46I I think that is correct. So because this says first
- 40:49degree on aggravated, which means it would jump up two
- 40:51degrees and if that's accurate, it is, I have no idea.
- 40:53We're going to find out though. So child abuse in Florida is a
- 40:5827 point O3. The degree of the crime usually
- 41:03affects the bond, ma'am, the way I set bonds.
- 41:06So let's see 827 point O3. Aggravated child abuse.
- 41:11You're charged under subsection 2A is a first degree regular
- 41:22child abuse. It's a third degree, so it jumps
- 41:32from 3rd to 1st. You're both right.
- 41:35OK, anything else Council before I address the bond?
- 41:39Nothing. So what I'm going to do, Miss
- 41:41Richard, this is very close to regular child abuse allegations.
- 41:44I thought there was sufficient probable cause, but again, it's
- 41:47it's a close call. Someone was treated for when
- 41:49you're like a patient. I'm going to treat it for child
- 41:50abuse as a child abuse for bond purposes only.
- 41:53That means your bonds will be $5000 cash or surety.
- 41:56You can go through a bondsman or you can put up all 5000 if you
- 41:59wish. That's entirely up to you.
- 42:00You're going to have a condition to have contact with the
- 42:03children only in compliance with department children families as
- 42:07outlined in a case plan or other court order.
- 42:10So if they have an active case plan and you're complying with
- 42:12that, I have no problem with that.
- 42:14They know more about the situation than I do.
- 42:16Also if the child has been removed but they allow some type
- 42:19of visitation that's approved. I have no problem with that.
- 42:22Again they're that's their area not mine.
- 42:25So as soon as that bond is posted you'll be released.
- 42:27I'm going to ask the jail to give you a notice for your court
- 42:29date. What would her arraignment date
- 42:31or pre arraignment date be? It's a May I know that one?
- 42:37May 5th. So Mr. Jackson, I don't know if
- 42:39you've had any of these since we've started doing this at
- 42:41first appearance, but just Garcia and I, we've started
- 42:44giving tentative arraignment date, especially as a tracking
- 42:47mechanism at first appearance. So our court date will be May
- 42:505th at 8:30. Now obviously, if you file notes
- 42:53of appearance, that may move that date.
- 42:55Mr. Axon, anything else? Nothing further, if I may be
- 42:57excused? Yes, Sir.
- 42:58Mr. Mitchell, Anything. Nothing else from the state.
- 43:01Here. And Miss Rich, do you have any
- 43:02questions? No, Sir, I don't.
- 43:04Believe so Good. She did ask me about a cash
- 43:05bond. I don't know if that's an option
- 43:07or not, so I'll just go ahead. And put the.
- 43:09Court note Mr. Mitchell, Wes, do you?
- 43:15Want to know if? She if she can post to like a.
- 43:16$500.00 cash bond. I mean, I don't know if the if
- 43:19the. If she if she can get a surety.
- 43:22Bond for $500? I'm sure she can post a cash
- 43:24bond for $500. No objection to that.
- 43:28I just I. Don't mind giving you that, but
- 43:29that option to your bond will be $500.00 cash.
- 43:31Would you prefer that Miss Rich, please?
- 43:34It's the same amount. It just means you don't go
- 43:36through a bondsman. You just put up all 500 cash and
- 43:38that's not negotiable. If you go through a bondsman,
- 43:40they may take a certain amount upfront, but if you post a cash
- 43:45bond, it's got to be all 500. Is that what you want to do?
- 43:50Yeah, actually it is. OK, your bonds, $500.00 cash as
- 43:55agreed to by the state and defense.
- 43:56All right, man, wish you the best.
- 43:57Thank you, Mr. McDaniel. Thank you.
- 43:59Thank you, Mr. Axon. The next case that has friends
- 44:02or family here is number 2 on the docket.
- 44:04That's Sammy Butler. Mr. Butler.
- 44:11Good morning, Mr. Butler. Your your mother and your niece
- 44:14are both here. Mr. Butler, you're here in case
- 44:1621 dash, excuse me? 25-121 CT Mr. Butler, you're
- 44:22accused of violating in terms of your probation, but I made the
- 44:26attorneys aware yesterday by a text or e-mail that you work for
- 44:31my father-in-law. And because of that I have no
- 44:34problem getting another judge or recusing myself if if either
- 44:38side wants one. On the other hand, if y'all
- 44:41worked out some kind of agreement, then I have no
- 44:42problem doing that. Also if both sides are willing
- 44:45and want to weigh that conflict. Mr. Mitchell, do you want
- 44:47another judge to hear this? Are you OK with me hearing it,
- 44:49Sir? I am OK with you hearing this
- 44:51one. Mr. McDaniel, no change from the
- 44:53last hearing we had, Your Honor. I think you made us all aware of
- 44:56the end and we're still don't have a conflict.
- 44:59I think Mr. Butler's helped me load some corn before when I've
- 45:01got out there to come out to pick out some some corn for deer
- 45:03hunting. Mr. Butler's about as strong as
- 45:05a mule, pick up two of them bags and I struggle to pick up one.
- 45:09But anyway, that's really not relevant today.
- 45:11So Mr. Butler appears there's no conflict.
- 45:14There's kind of potential conflicts being waived.
- 45:16So listen to Mr. McDaniel. I'm appointing his officer
- 45:18represent you. We're going to see where we go.
- 45:19I spoke to Mr. Butler. He's going to go ahead and admit
- 45:22that he violated the probation understanding you're going to be
- 45:24sentenced 10 days in county jail, five days jail credit.
- 45:27He's already paid the fines and calls.
- 45:28So that'll resolve this case today, Mr. Mitchell.
- 45:32That is agreeable with the state here on there so.
- 45:34Ladies in the courtroom, he did everything on probation he was
- 45:37supposed to do, according to Mr. Goodson.
- 45:38Right, Mr. Goodson? Yes Sir, including paying all
- 45:42this court costs and fines of $1700.
- 45:44Except he did not go to counseling.
- 45:47Yes, Sir, that's correct. That's why I feel like there's a
- 45:49need to do something to him and that's where the 10 days comes
- 45:51from. Mr. McDaniel, have y'all
- 45:53discussed when he would? Is he going to go ahead and do
- 45:55the sentence now or is he going to come back later and finish it
- 45:58because of the planning season? I assume he just will go.
- 46:01Ahead and finish it now, Your honor, I mean, but I, I didn't
- 46:03discuss it with him, but he should be out of here today will
- 46:06be the 6th day. So within the next 4 days
- 46:08probably. And he may get a day or day off
- 46:10of it. So Mr. Butler, I don't mind.
- 46:13And I told the attorneys this, if, if this works out and they
- 46:15decided to waive any conflict, that I don't have a problem with
- 46:19you coming back. I know it's your, your, your
- 46:21corn planting season, but if you want to go ahead and finish it
- 46:23now, that's OK. You have you would have five
- 46:27days left, Mr. McDaniel, or 4 after today.
- 46:30So after today, today would be. The 6th day when they put it in
- 46:33the system. So you have 4 days left, so you
- 46:35can either go ahead and just stay and finish that time Mr.
- 46:37Butler, or you can come back in a few weeks when you get through
- 46:40the planting season and finish the time then I have no
- 46:43preference. You you do you have a preference
- 46:46Sunday morning at Sunday morning you may get a day off.
- 46:51If he shows up like on a on a Friday afternoon, then he would
- 46:57Actually he's probably not working the weekend anyway.
- 46:59I I don't know if they work weekends this time of.
- 47:01Year I mean, if he works so. He might be out by Saturday or
- 47:04Sunday. Go ahead, Mr. Mr. Butler.
- 47:08If I leave today and I come back on a, like you say, on a Friday,
- 47:12I. Can just go pick the.
- 47:13Weekend, well, we'll pick some in the next few weeks.
- 47:16We'll pick a day that go ahead and pick a day today so you'll
- 47:18know a day to come back. And we try to have these
- 47:21individuals turn themselves into these kind of situations no
- 47:23later than noon because we got the day shift at the jail
- 47:26working. So you would show up on us, say
- 47:27Friday at noon, you get credit for that Friday, your credit for
- 47:31Saturday, your credit for Sunday, and you'll get out on
- 47:34Monday or Tuesday, depending upon how the math works.
- 47:38Mr. McDaniels figured that. Mr. Ham just sent a message to
- 47:42all of us and the perseverance list saying corn has already
- 47:46been planted. I don't know if that's relevant.
- 47:48Mr. Ham told us that he had just been spraying it or something.
- 47:50He was supposed to spray it yesterday.
- 47:52Thank you. I think they got the corn
- 47:54planted, but the he was in the process of spraying, treating
- 47:57the corn. I may have misspoke when I said
- 47:59planting it. It may have been something else.
- 48:02I don't know. If you want to go and do the the
- 48:03time, that's fine. If you'd rather come back later,
- 48:05that's fine. What would you rather do, Mr.
- 48:06Butler? If I get out.
- 48:10There would I have to have a bun?
- 48:11No, no you don't. Just got to come.
- 48:13Back. You have to come back and if I
- 48:17come back I still have the regular five days or four or
- 48:19four days. It's going to be the same
- 48:21sentence. You're going to serve the same
- 48:22amount of time. It's just when you serve it,
- 48:24there's only difference. OK.
- 48:26Because I really need to get back to work.
- 48:28I think I'll just, I'll come back.
- 48:31So when, when would be a good time for you to come back?
- 48:35I can get we're out a few weeks, we can go out a month.
- 48:37I'm not going to put it off. Six months, but just about, I'd
- 48:42say about 3 weeks because I got to finish doing all my treating,
- 48:45all my corn and stuff. Would you rather be on a Friday?
- 48:49Yes, Sir. So if we go out three weeks from
- 48:51this Friday, Miss Williams, what day would that be?
- 48:53April 24th? April 24th.
- 48:55Does that work, Mr. Butler? Yes, and that'll work.
- 48:58Mr. Mitchell, no objection. Mr. McDaniel, it's good.
- 49:02Your Honor, Mr. Butler, I'm going to accept your admission
- 49:04that you violated the terms and conditions of your probation.
- 49:07This is a plea you would like to enter, correct?
- 49:09Yes, Sir. I'm going to accept to violate
- 49:11the admissions, to violate the terms and conditions of your
- 49:13probation. Mr. Butler.
- 49:14I'm going to revoke that probation.
- 49:15I'm going to send you to 10 days in jail.
- 49:16You did 90% of what you're supposed to do on probation.
- 49:20I'm going to revoke that probation and sentence you to 10
- 49:23days in jail. But you have credit for, for the
- 49:25purposes of plea, it would be 5 days.
- 49:27Mr. McDaniel, you have 5 days credit for purposes of plea
- 49:33today. You're going to complete that
- 49:35sentence by turning yourself in April 23rd.
- 49:40April 24th, no later than noon, Mr. Butler.
- 49:44April 24th. You need to be at the jail by
- 49:46noon. Now, what I'm going to do is I'm
- 49:48going to give your your family in the courtroom.
- 49:51I'm going to give, we have your niece here.
- 49:53If it's OK, We're going to give your niece a copy of this
- 49:55paperwork showing the day to be back in jail at the jail.
- 49:59And then you need to take that paperwork with you when you show
- 50:02up at the jail. When he shows up at the jail,
- 50:04April, he needs to take this paperwork with him.
- 50:05OK, Mr. Butler, they're going to pick you up.
- 50:09They're going to process you out.
- 50:10Ladies, it's usually about a 30 minute deal to get processed
- 50:12out. He can be picked up in roughly
- 50:1430 minutes. OK.
- 50:15Mr. Butler, do you have any questions?
- 50:18No, Sir. I wish you the best, Sir.
- 50:19Does the family have any questions?
- 50:22All right. Wish you the best.
- 50:23Thank you. And I think there may be another
- 50:25young lady come in on your case, too.
- 50:26Are you here on that case too, ma'am?
- 50:27I don't think I announced that because when I asked her, you
- 50:29weren't here yet. Second.
- 50:32OK. Your girlfriend's here.
- 50:34All right. Wish you the best, Sir.
- 50:37OK, thank. You.
- 50:38Yes, Sir. You might choose to just stay
- 50:42there. Thank you, ladies.
- 50:48All right, So the next person that has friends or family here
- 50:51is Mr. Bell. Jeff Bell, just like please,
- 50:59when we give you a copy of this paperwork.
- 51:00OK. Mr. Bell, your wife is in the
- 51:02courtroom. You're here in Case 26-122-CT.
- 51:07And Mr. Bell, I believe there's a bond already set on that
- 51:12warrant. And Mr. McDaniel, any action we
- 51:13need to take in this case. So Mr. Bell, we're going to give
- 51:17you a notice. I'm, I'm assuming you're going
- 51:19to post bond, hopefully going to post bond.
- 51:20And I apologize, I should have told you yesterday when we took
- 51:23you into custody in the courtroom, there was a bond on
- 51:25the warrant and I, I just forgot.
- 51:26You. You did?
- 51:27Oh, did I? Yeah.
- 51:28You did good. So there's a bond already set.
- 51:30That bond is $2500. Mr. Bell, we're going to give
- 51:33you a notice. You anticipate being a post the
- 51:35bond. OK.
- 51:37Your wife's saying they're going to try to post the bond.
- 51:38So we'll give you a notice for the arraignment docket, which
- 51:41would be wind on 27th, the 27th of March.
- 51:45Yes, Sir. 27th of April, the 27th of March already passed.
- 51:4927th of April will be your court date.
- 51:52They're going to give you a written notice at the jail.
- 51:54Mr. Bell, you will not get a notice in the mail.
- 51:56That notice they put in your hand will be the only notice you
- 51:58get 9:00 AM on the 27th. So you'll get to use the phone
- 52:02in a few minutes to post the bond.
- 52:05And the only condition, only special condition of the bond is
- 52:08don't drive a motor vehicle unless you have a valid license
- 52:11to get your license fixed, then you drive, that's fine.
- 52:13But if you get caught driving without a license, that will
- 52:15violate your bond. And we'll see you on your court
- 52:18date. Mr. Bell, do you have any
- 52:19questions? Yes, Sir.
- 52:21All right, Sir. Wish you the best.
- 52:22Ma'am, do you have any questions?
- 52:23Yes, Sir. You too.
- 52:23Thank you. Thank you.
- 52:25We have Jasmal Primus. It.
- 52:30Was a $2500 bond. I looked at it this morning.
- 52:34Hey, Miss Primus, good morning. You're the brother in the
- 52:36courtroom. Miss Primus, you're here because
- 52:38you've been accused of 1 count of fraudulent use of a credit
- 52:40card, 1 count of Grand Theft between 750 and $5000.
- 52:45Ma'am, there is probable cause in the complaint, Miss Primus,
- 52:48and I'm going to listen to the attorneys before I address your
- 52:51bond status. Mr. McDaniel.
- 52:52Anything. No, Miss Primus, Just maybe,
- 52:55probably a set for cash bond if that's the option.
- 52:58There is allegedly restitution owed.
- 53:00Mr. Mitchell. She wants to post cash bond.
- 53:02We don't have any objection. Miss Primus, did look at your
- 53:05criminal history. You had a couple things on
- 53:07there. I'm going to set you a $500.00
- 53:10cash bond on each of these felony charges.
- 53:12Miss Primus. That means you've got a total
- 53:14bond of $1000 cash. Miss Primus, as soon as that
- 53:18bond is posted, you'll be released.
- 53:19So let me talk to your brother. So Sir, she's got $1000 cash
- 53:22bond. The good thing about a cash bond
- 53:25is let's say the charges are dismissed.
- 53:27If they're dismissed, that money's returned to whoever
- 53:29posted it. On the other hand, if she's if
- 53:32they're not dismissed and she's ordered to pay restitution, that
- 53:34money can go towards restitution.
- 53:36So that's why a lot of times the state and defense both want a
- 53:38cash bond because they want that money to be there in case it
- 53:42goes one way to the other. OK.
- 53:43But as soon as that bond is posted, she'll be released.
- 53:46We're also going to give her a notice for a court date.
- 53:47And her court date will be when May the 5th will be your court
- 53:53date. They'll give you that notice at
- 53:54the jail, ma'am, and that'll be at 8:30.
- 53:57That'll be in front of Judge Garcia.
- 53:58Miss Primos, do you have any questions?
- 54:01No, Sir, you're all right. I was.
- 54:03I just wanted to apologize. I miss Premas.
- 54:10I I wish you the best, Sir. Do you have any questions?
- 54:13Thank you for coming. That's right.
- 54:18At the jail. At the jail?
- 54:21Penn Ave. Yes, Sir.
- 54:24Thank you. All right, so that's it for
- 54:26friends or family. Mr. McDaniel, We can start back
- 54:28at the top of the list, which is Thomas Raquenello.
- 54:38Miss Racanello. Good morning.
- 54:39Miss Racanello, You're here because you've been accused of 1
- 54:41count of written threat to do bodily harm, 1 count of criminal
- 54:48mischief over $1000, and a misdemeanor resisting an officer
- 54:52without violence. It appears you're already out on
- 54:54bond IN26-15 CF There is probable cause in the complaint
- 54:59for the new charges. Mr. Racanello.
- 55:01I'm going to listen to the attorneys and I'm going to
- 55:02address your bond status. Mr. McDaniel, Anything.
- 55:05Nothing. Mr. Mitchell.
- 55:07Your Honor, like you said, he is out on bond in 2615 CF That case
- 55:12actually has a condition of random UA's.
- 55:16In addition to setting the bonds for these new law cases, we were
- 55:19requested to be drug tested at the jail just to see if he has
- 55:23anything in his system. I like to think I don't miss
- 55:26much. I think I probably do, but I
- 55:27didn't even catch that, so I appreciate you catching that,
- 55:29Mister Mitchell. So, yeah, if he's got a
- 55:31condition, random urinalysis, corporal or Sergeant, this is
- 55:35Sergeant this morning. We need to get a urinalysis
- 55:37after first appearance because Judge Garcia likes to know that
- 55:40and it may, may actually help him if it's negative or
- 55:43anything. So Mr. Racanello, I'm going to
- 55:44set your bond at $15,000 each on the two felony charges, $5000 on
- 55:48the resisting. That's a total bond of $35,000
- 55:51cash or surety. You have a condition, no contact
- 55:54with alleged victim. Do not try to post the bonds
- 55:56because I'm going to revoke your bond and 26-15 CF.
- 56:00So you now got no bond in that case.
- 56:02So what that means is even if you posted a new bond, she
- 56:04wouldn't get out because you've got no bond in the case you
- 56:07already out on bond on and they're going to give you a
- 56:09urinalysis after first appearance.
- 56:11Mr. Racanello, your court date on these new cases will be May
- 56:16the 5th. May the 5th at 8:30 will be a
- 56:19court date on the new charges in front of Judge Garcia.
- 56:21Mr. Racanello, do you have any questions?
- 56:25No. All right.
- 56:26Sorry. Wish you the best.
- 56:28We have Alejandro Tronato. I might be mispronouncing that
- 56:34last name, Mr. Good morning. You're here because you've been
- 56:42accused of 1 count of driving under the influence.
- 56:45I've read the complaint of his probable cause.
- 56:47I looked at your criminal history, which I think you had.
- 56:50I think you had no prior criminal history.
- 56:52Maybe a a driving license suspended that was dismissed
- 56:56years ago and that's it. So Mr. Turnado, I'm appointing
- 57:02the public center's office to represent you.
- 57:03I'm asking to listen to Mr. McDaniel, your attorney.
- 57:06We're going to achieve no contest charges listed in
- 57:09standing 1129 probation without $78 in fines, 50 hours of
- 57:13community service, DUI school minimum driver's license
- 57:16suspension. A a classes if unless you
- 57:19complete some of the DUI classes and he's waiting his right to
- 57:24retrial and call witnesses and that'll resolve this case today.
- 57:29Thank you, Mr. Mr. Mitchell's had agreeable with the state.
- 57:33It is Your Honor, and I will point out that it does look like
- 57:37his BAC was a .164, but for purposes of first appearance and
- 57:42given the fact that his lack of criminal history will stipulate
- 57:45to it being under .15. I'm sure you're OK with that,
- 57:48Mister McDaniel. Yes, Your Honor.
- 57:51Richard Tornado, did you hear that plea agreement, Sir?
- 57:55Yes, Sir. Any questions about that
- 57:56agreement? No, Sir.
- 57:59Is that the plea you would like to enter?
- 58:01Yes, Sir. Sir, I'm going to accept your
- 58:04plea of no contest. Screw the charge of driving
- 58:07under the influence. I'm going to find it's freely
- 58:09and voluntarily entered. But specifically you're plea
- 58:12into a blood or breath alcohol of less than .15.
- 58:14That's important because that removes certain mandatory
- 58:16conditions under Florida law. I'm going to judge you guilty
- 58:19that offense and issue to 11 months and 29 days probation,
- 58:23standard court costs and fines. I may have already said that the
- 58:26$1078 successfully complete DUI school and substance abuse
- 58:31counseling. The substance abuse counseling.
- 58:34If you do enroll in DUI school within 60 days, that will
- 58:38constitute your substance abuse counseling.
- 58:39That'll take care of it. If not, you can choose to do
- 58:4212A, a counseling sessions or private counseling if you
- 58:45prefer, until that evaluator relieves you 50 hours of public
- 58:49service work. I do recommend the minimum
- 58:51driver's license suspension. Mr. Tornado, what's going to
- 58:53happen next? If they're going to let you use
- 58:55the phone, they're going to let you get dressed in your regular
- 58:57clothes. The reason for using the phone
- 58:59is in case you want to contact friends or family for picking
- 59:01you up transportation purposes. Then after you do that, they'll
- 59:05bring you to the courthouse to meet with the probation officer.
- 59:08Mr. Goodson or Mr. Ham will meet with you.
- 59:09I believe this will be Mr. Goodson's case.
- 59:12He will answer any questions you have about the probation.
- 59:14He'll give you a copy of the rules in writing.
- 59:16He also will. Answer any questions you have
- 59:18about the driver's license issue, and then you'll be free
- 59:21to leave. So if you do call friends or
- 59:23family, you can tell them that you can be picked up in about 30
- 59:26to 45 minutes from now at the courthouse in Marianna.
- 59:29Any questions, Sir? No.
- 59:33All right, Sir, I wish you the best.
- 59:34Thank you. Yes, Sir, we have Hansford
- 59:40Griffiths. Mr. Griffiths, Good morning.
- 59:45Mr. Griffiths, you're here for first appearance.
- 59:47Good morning. You're charged with one count of
- 59:49driving license suspended or revoked habitual and one count
- 59:52of failed to register a motor vehicle.
- 59:54There is probable cause in the complaint and it looks like you
- 59:58just got out of prison for the exact same charge of driving
- 1:00:01while license suspended or revoked habitual and looks like
- 1:00:04you have three of those within the last couple years, habitual
- 1:00:09felony driving license suspended.
- 1:00:11So all of those are factors for bond purposes.
- 1:00:14I'm going to listen to the attorneys and then we'll set the
- 1:00:16bond in your case. Mr. McDaniel, Anything, Mr.
- 1:00:20Mitchell not. For the state, Your Honor.
- 1:00:22OK, Mr. Mr. Griffiths, I'm going to set your bond at $15,000 on
- 1:00:28the driver's license ritual because of your history, and you
- 1:00:30just got out of prison for the same thing, $5000 on the
- 1:00:33Federation motor vehicle. Your total bond is $20,000.
- 1:00:37Mr. Griffiths, your bond has a condition.
- 1:00:39You not drive a motor vehicle, so you'll get a chance to use
- 1:00:42the phone in just a minute, Sir. And you'll post that bond if you
- 1:00:44can. You'll be released.
- 1:00:45They'll also give you a written notice after first appearance.
- 1:00:48Your notice will be for your court date in front of Judge
- 1:00:50Garcia and that will be May the 5th, May the 5th, also at 8:30.
- 1:00:56Mr. Griffith, do you have any questions?
- 1:00:58No, Sir all. Right, Sir.
- 1:01:00I wish you the best, Winston Goodson.
- 1:01:11Mr. Goodson, good morning. You're here because you've been
- 1:01:13accused of 1 count of Grand Theft between 10 and $20,000,
- 1:01:17one count of Burger of an unoccupied conveyance and a
- 1:01:19criminal mischief of less than $200, and I believe you're on
- 1:01:25probation in case 23-276. CF.
- 1:01:29Mr. Goodson, I'm going to appoint the public finance
- 1:01:31officer represent you for first appearance purposes, and I'm
- 1:01:34going to ask that you listen to the attorneys before I set that
- 1:01:36bond. Mr. McDaniel, Anything.
- 1:01:39Nothing. Mr. Mitchell, we just request
- 1:01:43that you put a seven day hold for the VOP case.
- 1:01:48Mr. Goods, I don't know if I said it or not, but there is
- 1:01:50probable cause in the complaint. Your bond's going to be $10,000
- 1:01:53each on the two third degree felonies.
- 1:01:55That's the Grand Theft in the burglary, $5000 on the criminal
- 1:01:58mischief. Your total bond is $25,000 cash
- 1:02:01or surety, but don't try to post it because you are on probation
- 1:02:05in that case number I mentioned, which means I'm going to ask Mr.
- 1:02:08Mitchell to notify the probation office and you have a seven day
- 1:02:12no bond hold in that case. We'll see if they have a warrant
- 1:02:14within seven days. If they do, we'll we'll see if
- 1:02:17they put a bond on it or not. OK.
- 1:02:18Yes, Sir. Have a good day, Sir.
- 1:02:26I did not, but if you remind me when he comes back for that
- 1:02:28seven day hold, we'll give him a court date then he's right here.
- 1:02:34Is he still there? We want.
- 1:02:36To give him a. Court date then?
- 1:02:37So, Mr. Gutson, your court date will be May the 5th.
- 1:02:40Also, May the 5th at 8:30 will be your court date.
- 1:02:43They'll give you that notice, Sir.
- 1:02:44OK, we have Noah Phillips. Mr. Phillips, you have a warrant
- 1:02:48out of Gaston County? I'm looking at the teletype,
- 1:02:51which is basically an electronic e-mail sorta from the Gaston
- 1:02:56County Sheriff's Department. It says there's no bond on this.
- 1:02:59Now, that doesn't mean that you won't get a bond when you get
- 1:03:01there. And I don't know enough about
- 1:03:02the case to tell you if you will, but you clearly don't have
- 1:03:05a bond right now. But Gaston County is going to
- 1:03:07pick you up. They're they're right next to
- 1:03:09us, as you may know, So they're probably going to get you
- 1:03:12today's Wednesday. My guess is I'll get you this
- 1:03:14week. But if you're still here in 15
- 1:03:16days, you'll come back to first appearance and we'll see what's
- 1:03:19going on. That that's very unusual.
- 1:03:21I don't know that's ever happened with Gaston County.
- 1:03:23There's a good chance they're going to pick you up within the
- 1:03:25next couple of working days. And when you get picked up,
- 1:03:27you'll go to another first appearance over there.
- 1:03:29Any questions? No, Sir.
- 1:03:31Have a good day, Sir. You, too.
- 1:03:34Thank you. You've already seen Miss Primus.
- 1:03:38You've already seen Miss Rich. That brings us to Mr. Bugs.
- 1:03:41Darrell Bugs. Mr. Bugs.
- 1:03:47Good morning. Mr. Bugs.
- 1:03:48You. You have two issues.
- 1:03:49You have a fugitive. One out of Houston County,
- 1:03:51Alabama, and then you also have a local charge in Jackson
- 1:03:56County, resisting officer without violence.
- 1:03:58I'm appointing the public Turner's office to represent you
- 1:04:00in that case. I'm asking that you listen to
- 1:04:02your attorney, Mr. McDaniel. I spoke to Mr. Bugs.
- 1:04:05You don't have no contest. The charges listed.
- 1:04:07You understanding it since 90 days in the county jail, your
- 1:04:09$370 fine. He has waived his right to
- 1:04:12retrial and call the witnesses. And how to resolve this case?
- 1:04:17Thank you, Mr. Mitchell's. I agree with the state.
- 1:04:20It is Your honor, Mr. Bugs. Did you hear that agreement,
- 1:04:23Sir? Yes, Sir.
- 1:04:25Mr. Bugs, do you have any questions about that agreement?
- 1:04:28Also, one other thing, Your Honor, that any plea here can be
- 1:04:31used against him in the violation state probation case.
- 1:04:35Does he have a BOSP? Is that what the Houston County
- 1:04:37charge is? He has local probation here in
- 1:04:41Jackson County, 25225. I don't know what the stuff in,
- 1:04:45I don't know what stuff in the company is.
- 1:04:48OK. So, Mr. Mitchell, is that all
- 1:04:50agreeable with the state? Yes, sure.
- 1:04:52What's the current one? What's that case number?
- 1:04:5625225. 2225 S Mr. Boggs, Mr. by Daniel's trying to protect you.
- 1:05:01They can always use the incident, but they can't use
- 1:05:04what you're doing today against you.
- 1:05:06That's what he's putting on the record.
- 1:05:07If they try to do that, I would let them withdraw.
- 1:05:09I would let you withdraw this plea because we don't want you
- 1:05:11to hurt yourself today. If they're going to violate your
- 1:05:14probation by calling witnesses, they have the right to try to do
- 1:05:16that, convince the judge you did it, but you wouldn't plea.
- 1:05:20People wouldn't plea if if plea is going to hurt them.
- 1:05:23So any questions about this agreement your attorney put on
- 1:05:25the record? Is there?
- 1:05:27Is this a plea you would like to enter to resolve this
- 1:05:29misdemeanor charge? Yes, Sir.
- 1:05:32Mr. Bugs, don't accept your plea of no contest to the charge of
- 1:05:34resisting officer without violence.
- 1:05:36I'm going to withhold of judicious and adjudicate you
- 1:05:38guilty. Sentence you to 90 days in jail.
- 1:05:40Give you credit for the time you served already, which was one
- 1:05:42day. Mr. McDaniel.
- 1:05:43Yes, Sir, 374 costs and fines are imposed as a condition of
- 1:05:48this plea. If the state tries to use the
- 1:05:51plea what you did today against you, I will let you withdraw
- 1:05:54this plea. And typically they won't do
- 1:05:56that. They'll just, they may or may
- 1:05:59not try to use the incident, but they won't use the plea itself.
- 1:06:02So Mr. Bugs, if they haven't put a hold on you or served a
- 1:06:05warning on you for the VOP, by the time you finish this
- 1:06:08sentence or get near the completion of the sentence,
- 1:06:10Florida will notify, Jackson County will notify Alabama.
- 1:06:13If Alabama still wants you, they'll be told to come get you.
- 1:06:16If you do have a hold from violation probation, then you'll
- 1:06:19know about it. You'll come back to first
- 1:06:20appearance and we'll get we'll get you in turning pointed if
- 1:06:22you ask for one and go through that process.
- 1:06:25Right now we don't have that hold.
- 1:06:26Mr. Boggs, do you have any questions?
- 1:06:29No, but I still had it problems. Thank you.
- 1:06:42Yes, Sir. Mr. McDaniel, it's everything I
- 1:06:55had on my first appearance list. Anything else from the P DS
- 1:06:58office? No, you aren't.
- 1:07:00Thank you, Mr. All righty friends, TCF live on Wednesday.
- 1:07:05It's good to have you all here with me.
- 1:07:07What do we got? Another two hours or so.
- 1:07:09Very cool. Let's go to Lake County, Ohio,
- 1:07:13Judge O'Donnell, see what's going on there.
- 1:07:18Judge is contained in the probation violation.
- 1:07:19Thank you. Is that correct, Mr. Hobbs?
- 1:07:25Yes, Sir, all. Right.
- 1:07:27What's your plea to the violations?
- 1:07:30Oh, guilty. Accept your guilty plea and find
- 1:07:33you guilty well. What's the story?
- 1:07:42You know, that was I'm human, so I'm making mistakes, but this
- 1:07:47was one of the dumbest mistakes that I've made and, and in a
- 1:07:51long time, I was on a very good path.
- 1:07:54I, I still feel I'm on a very good path.
- 1:07:57You know what I'm saying? To, to change my life around.
- 1:08:00It was it was really stupid. It was I, I got no, no excuse
- 1:08:04for it at all. Like, and the figurine that was
- 1:08:07just me just trying to not diminish the 18 months of, of
- 1:08:11good that I was doing. I was, you know, I had a job.
- 1:08:13I had a job to get $20.00 an hour.
- 1:08:15And I was from 9:00 to 2:00. Like I had something to do.
- 1:08:19I was taking care of my mother. Like every little incident that
- 1:08:22happened, I was there for it, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:08:24So I had time to like do that. My sister died of, you know, she
- 1:08:29died in my arms. So she's not here no more.
- 1:08:32That was my sister with Down syndrome.
- 1:08:34So that was kind of bad. But I've been doing good with my
- 1:08:37depression medicine, my anxiety, I've been working with that
- 1:08:40good. I got a lot of people who
- 1:08:43support me and been showing support.
- 1:08:44They've been seeing the change. And this was, you know, like not
- 1:08:48to diminish you. And I like that it was decision
- 1:08:50like it ain't even. Nothing.
- 1:08:52What, what? What led to the decision?
- 1:08:55I don't, I don't really, I don't know, like bad energy came
- 1:08:58around me and I'm just being social and you know, I was
- 1:09:01wrapping up my, my feeling like I was wrapping up my, my, my
- 1:09:04probation and I just was like lazy with it and just, you know
- 1:09:08what I'm saying? Like I forgot really what was
- 1:09:09going on with that whole scene. So, you know, I just hey, and
- 1:09:12just being social with it and it was just stupid.
- 1:09:14Like it's, it was a bad experience anyway.
- 1:09:17Like, and it's, it's not even on my radar to be doing something
- 1:09:20like that. Like my life was going good.
- 1:09:22I actually got a movie that I don't even need 15 minutes more
- 1:09:26footage left to finish a movie that I was supposed to be
- 1:09:29dropping in summer. And then I I had the job like
- 1:09:32$20.00 an hour for me like without.
- 1:09:34Working where? I ever care.
- 1:09:36Like a guy came and approached me about when I was helping my
- 1:09:40mother and he said, you know, you get paid for that and I said
- 1:09:43no. So I went up on Pearl Rd. they
- 1:09:45did the background and he was like yeah, you can get it.
- 1:09:47So 92 that's what I was doing Monday through Friday and I'm
- 1:09:50like $20.00 an hour. Like, you know, for y'all, it
- 1:09:53probably ain't nothing but for me and you know what I'm saying,
- 1:09:55my history on background and stuff like it was everything for
- 1:09:59me. Like and I was moving forward.
- 1:10:00My depression was doing good. I was you know, I still don't go
- 1:10:03around people all like that. You know what I'm saying that
- 1:10:05much. But I'm social, you know, I
- 1:10:08laugh, play like, you know, family lost, you know, my
- 1:10:11sister. And while I was in here, I lost.
- 1:10:14I miss my birthday, my son's birthday, which I was catching
- 1:10:18for like a year and a half straight.
- 1:10:19Like I ain't been in here in a while.
- 1:10:21Like I've been I've been content and happy with the life I had.
- 1:10:24Like I just made a stupid mistake.
- 1:10:26It's it's stupid. Every day I, I sit in here and
- 1:10:29be like, I cannot believe I ever let bad energy come into my life
- 1:10:32because I'm, I've been positive energy and I've been, I've been
- 1:10:35hoping that I've been showing improvement.
- 1:10:37Everybody around me is seeing like, hey, it's improvement.
- 1:10:40You've been, you've been doing better.
- 1:10:42Like, you know, they still. Owe the signature.
- 1:10:45Yeah. Oh, So I, I even if I was off
- 1:10:47probation, I'm still with signature.
- 1:10:48They they do my medicines. They do my what?
- 1:10:51Medicines you taking? I take Trazodone.
- 1:10:55I take Lipitor. I got I got diabetes, I got high
- 1:10:58blood pressure, I got depression and I have anxiety and I got
- 1:11:03PTSD. So I I take a lot of stuff.
- 1:11:08I take a lot of stuff. Take it everyday.
- 1:11:10Yeah, I, I keep up on that and it's been working like signature
- 1:11:13is real, real good. I have zero problem with
- 1:11:16signature. I have zero.
- 1:11:17They come get you, they, they give you a, you know, a Uber,
- 1:11:21you know, I'm saying there and back.
- 1:11:23So I had no problem. It's a nice facility.
- 1:11:24Like I got nothing bad to say about Senator help.
- 1:11:27So even if I wasn't on probation, I still would deal
- 1:11:31with them. Like, yeah, they they help me
- 1:11:33out. Like if I go down for depression
- 1:11:34or say something like they got counselors, like, hey, they're
- 1:11:37cool. Like I'm still still with them
- 1:11:40on the regular. So and I plan on having them
- 1:11:43still help me out through this, like, you know, just keep me
- 1:11:46moving forward. They keep me focused and I just
- 1:11:48been focused on my own. Like, you know, you, you have me
- 1:11:51take the little, you know, trust the process and that's why I've
- 1:11:54been doing 18 months. That's why you ain't seen me
- 1:11:55like, you know, just let bad energy just come in, like just
- 1:11:58make stupid mistakes. 89 and I'm, I'm they dwindling down.
- 1:12:02You know what I'm saying? Like I'm not going to be
- 1:12:04perfect. I know that much, but I'm
- 1:12:06working on it and I'm, I'm working progress.
- 1:12:07But it's been on the upside lately, like, and stuff I've
- 1:12:11been going through like my sister died and stuff like that.
- 1:12:13I was right there. Like I seen the lights go out in
- 1:12:16her eyes like. When When was that?
- 1:12:18That was last year. What?
- 1:12:20What month? Actually, I don't.
- 1:12:24I think it was March. It was around my birthday.
- 1:12:26All right. How?
- 1:12:30Often do you go to signature? Every time they leave me, they
- 1:12:33call you. They call you to death, they
- 1:12:34say. They call how.
- 1:12:36Often do you get the meds? I get the meds all the time I.
- 1:12:39Mean do you get a prescription for a certain period of time and
- 1:12:43then you have to renew? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:12:45They give you a prescription for them.
- 1:12:46And how long does a prescription usually last for?
- 1:12:49I think they 30 days like they give you, you know, a bottle.
- 1:12:51So think about like 30 days. Like I still got some meds left
- 1:12:55right now. So maybe a little bit over some
- 1:12:57of them, maybe a little bit over 30 days, maybe a little bit.
- 1:13:00They left at least 30 days. They give me stuff to help me
- 1:13:05sleep because you know, see my mind race all the time.
- 1:13:08And they give me stuff for the anxiety because like when I'm
- 1:13:11around certain people sometimes like, you know, still feel like
- 1:13:14the walls closing in. Like I had an episode I was in
- 1:13:16here and they don't give you meds and stuff like that for in
- 1:13:18here. How long you been in?
- 1:13:20How long you been in here now? 40 days is.
- 1:13:23That right, Dave, Roughly 40. One days Judge. 41 yeah.
- 1:13:29And it's, it's rough being here, like especially in my age, like
- 1:13:33my body ain't built for it no more.
- 1:13:34That's why I'm I'm through with any violations whatsoever.
- 1:13:37Like well. I mean, I'm, I'm always
- 1:13:40interested to know how, how mental health medication, which
- 1:13:49is meant to, in some cases to, to, to create a balance, a
- 1:13:56chemical balance, why you think that mixing that with marijuana
- 1:14:02or meth is a positive? I didn't think you know what I'm
- 1:14:06saying. That's the whole problem.
- 1:14:07Like I let bad energies come in a bad vibe.
- 1:14:10I'm usually good vibes, good energy and and that that's just
- 1:14:13it's just one of my scene, like it's I've been away from so
- 1:14:16long. Like I just think I just like, I
- 1:14:19don't know, I just think I was just just not thinking.
- 1:14:22It's just, it's just a bad decision.
- 1:14:24It's just, it was stupid. Like it's, it's not even my
- 1:14:28scene. Like I've been going so long for
- 1:14:30that whole scene anyway, like. Where are you living?
- 1:14:33I'm staying still my mouth like A26300 bar deal stable location
- 1:14:39like probably one of the best streets and and you could go off
- 1:14:43260th. I still help around.
- 1:14:47We've been real close since my sister passed.
- 1:14:49Like, you know, that was kind of big for the whole family and
- 1:14:54they just had to repass just recently last month.
- 1:14:58So I missed that every they had me up a couple of days.
- 1:15:01That's probably why I had that, that episode with the anxiety
- 1:15:05thing. So but I'm trying though, like
- 1:15:12I'm, I'm I'm going to get it right.
- 1:15:14If I, if I can get chance, like I've had a lot of positive
- 1:15:18things. I got like 41 certificates of
- 1:15:21stuff that y'all didn't even ask for Like I just got just just
- 1:15:24trying to learn everything about me, about myself, about my
- 1:15:27surroundings, like about mental health, about about diabetes,
- 1:15:31about law, about care service, everything I can get my hands
- 1:15:37on. Like I got like 41 of them.
- 1:15:38I I gave like just just a whole bunch of stuff like just trying
- 1:15:45to move forward. It's it's hard.
- 1:15:47I had a rough life, you know, like, but I know that ain't no
- 1:15:50excuse for nothing. But I mean, moving forward, I
- 1:15:54can just tell you that it it's going to be positive energy
- 1:15:57still like like the 18 months I can do another whatever the
- 1:16:02courts tell me to do. Like even without the courts,
- 1:16:04I'm going to do that. Like so many people didn't put
- 1:16:06trust in me and put put faith in me.
- 1:16:08Like they ain't used to do that. Like now they like they, they
- 1:16:11kind of see like a difference. Like they they kind of believe
- 1:16:15in me a little bit all. Right, Miss Smokey.
- 1:16:19Yes, Your honor, Thank you. My client's been very concerned
- 1:16:23about his future in light of his violations.
- 1:16:25He realized it was a dumb mistake.
- 1:16:27My understanding is he he thought he might be going to
- 1:16:30prison. He use these substances before
- 1:16:34he thought he was going to be going.
- 1:16:36I've given the opportunity. I'm sure he he would change his
- 1:16:39behavior. Then he indicates to me that he
- 1:16:42will not be using drugs or substances in the future.
- 1:16:45He will comply with his community control requirements.
- 1:16:49We'd ask this court to extend his community can control, Your
- 1:16:52Honor, not consider prison for him at this time.
- 1:16:55He understands some additional local incarceration might be
- 1:16:57part of his continued community control and other more stringent
- 1:17:02conditions might be added as as as well, Your Honor.
- 1:17:05But he does take care of his, his, his mother and he, we'll,
- 1:17:11we'll follow the rules and, and regulations and we would ask the
- 1:17:15court to take all of that into consideration.
- 1:17:18Thank you. OK, I'm going to continue you on
- 1:17:21community control and serve 49 days in jail with credit for 41
- 1:17:28and you're going to comply with the the same terms essentially
- 1:17:31as to continue with signature and stop, stop playing around
- 1:17:41with the drugs and and in all aspects of your life.
- 1:17:47Yes, Sir. Mr. Tompkins, anything else?
- 1:17:52All right, that's it, 41 days. Your honor, to ask me to inquire
- 1:18:02us to the court if it's possible to waive the the additional jail
- 1:18:05time so that he can get back to his his life.
- 1:18:09Judge, I keep that job. If I could like.
- 1:18:11Judge. He didn't have a job yet.
- 1:18:13OK, so listen. Let's just.
- 1:18:16Stop saying you got a job. I got the job.
- 1:18:19Why did sorry? 49.
- 1:18:23Okey, Dokey, a little dispute there about a job at the end.
- 1:18:27Good times. All right, let's go to go to
- 1:18:31Judge Stevens, Say good morning to him.
- 1:18:33What are? We doing today.
- 1:18:33That's you. Judge, I'm.
- 1:18:36Sorry. You're charged, as you probably
- 1:18:38know, with the third degree felony of system.
- 1:18:43Tampering. With physical evidence
- 1:18:47intentionally and only concealing A firearm and.
- 1:18:51This is 1/3. Degree felony which carries with
- 1:18:53it up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
- 1:18:56And Mr. Turkish, your attorney, go ahead.
- 1:18:59Frank. Jed Weed.
- 1:19:00I think we just recently got all of this play around this.
- 1:19:02That was just Robertson. This is her initial appearance.
- 1:19:04I've got to go over the. Case what are you asking?
- 1:19:07For today due to my. Master, just we probably need to
- 1:19:10reset it towards the end of Mason.
- 1:19:12I would say a normal reset, but you're going to military.
- 1:19:15Yes, Sir. We're about a month.
- 1:19:17So two months you did. The last week in May.
- 1:19:21That's fine. We're trying to move some stuff
- 1:19:25before you leave. Yes Sir.
- 1:19:26I'm working on everything. I'm not.
- 1:19:28I'm not going to just leave. Sounds like you were about to
- 1:19:33right into this. I get if he's setting that.
- 1:19:38Thank you, Christopher Stelly. Stelly 2 cases once again the
- 1:19:48movement here it's three states. 3 cases.
- 1:19:51Stelly or goes to the next page. Yes Sir, this one does. 3 paces.
- 1:19:59Hold on. Christopher Stelly.
- 1:20:01Pause number 251642, evading arrest with attention with a
- 1:20:06motor vehicle, 25 CR 1643 state jail felony of theft of a
- 1:20:11firearm. And finally 25CR3126CR31A newer
- 1:20:18case, state jail felony of unauthorized use of a motor
- 1:20:21vehicle. So we've got 2 state jail
- 1:20:24felonies up to two years in the state jail in each of those
- 1:20:27cases, and a third degree felony up to 10 years in prison for
- 1:20:30that one, 14 years collectively the defendant is looking at.
- 1:20:35No answer in the. Courtroom on Christopher Staley
- 1:20:38I asked the Baylor to call him of the hall for Christopher
- 1:20:40Staley place, but she may not be present.
- 1:20:43I'm looking at. I'm looking at a.
- 1:20:46Federal indictment on this. Chill.
- 1:20:50But why it is 18 USC 922G1? That's a firearm.
- 1:20:59Prosecuted 100 of those as AUS chain.
- 1:21:01That's why I read it out to 9th. It's actually 922 subpar G.
- 1:21:06Yes, Sir. No answer there's.
- 1:21:09No response, no response, according to the bailiffs call
- 1:21:11outside, no response to the name being called here in the
- 1:21:15courtroom. Defendant has failed to appear.
- 1:21:17It was going to make some tentative findings based upon
- 1:21:22whether he is in custody or not and what are his bonds on each
- 1:21:34he's in custody. He's unable to be here in that
- 1:21:37purchasing with any punishment for not being presently supposed
- 1:21:43to be. But if he's not in custody, then
- 1:21:48his bonds are revoked. In each of these three cases
- 1:21:50such. As on the 1st 2 cases the bonds
- 1:21:54of $15,000 each and on the third case it's $8000.
- 1:22:00OK. Bonds are doubled and 1642 and
- 1:22:031643 from 15 to $30,000 and then 2631 you said it's 8008
- 1:22:10thousand, it's double to $16,000 plus the defendant must have
- 1:22:15AGPS device and he's on phone can find it except for purposes.
- 1:22:22Of. Leaving to.
- 1:22:26See his lawyer in the most direct route possible, to come
- 1:22:29to court in the most possible, to get food or medical care in
- 1:22:34the most direct possible. And he must also inform his
- 1:22:38bondsman of his travels before he can travel.
- 1:22:47John West thanks Brian Jose Rodriguez.
- 1:22:55Jose Rodriguez. Please.
- 1:23:19You, Jose Rodriguez, you were here with Mr. W, your attorney
- 1:23:23and the state's attorney. I don't have to tell you this is
- 1:23:28a serious offense. You're charged with the state
- 1:23:30jail felony of solicitation of prostitution, which carries with
- 1:23:35it up to two years in the state jail.
- 1:23:41You know it's illegal. Don't do that.
- 1:23:44And you don't know what is happening in those situations
- 1:23:54when they when it's advertised, could be law enforcement like
- 1:24:02they got you on this one. But nonetheless, do the right
- 1:24:08thing so that the honest moral thing, you stay out of trouble.
- 1:24:14Now Mr. W is here. What do you want to do today,
- 1:24:16now? This is initial.
- 1:24:18Because you can. Get about four weeks to go over
- 1:24:21discovery. Get a resetting four weeks.
- 1:24:26He's going to review this with you and see what direction this
- 1:24:29is going to headwind. Kalaya, Mark.
- 1:24:35All right, friends, let's go back to Michigan.
- 1:24:37Judge Simpson. Either in the Michigan court
- 1:24:43rules, other cases decided they're under.
- 1:24:44To the extent that like does exist give favors, the court
- 1:24:48will consent to hear the matter. Is this the first one in exam?
- 1:24:50Yes, for that's called the case of the people versus Carla
- 1:24:57Bristow on Your Honor Raymond football.
- 1:24:58People. Bristow.
- 1:25:06Yes. Oh, there she is.
- 1:25:09All right, ma'am, you are before the court on a misdemeanor
- 1:25:15citation that alleges that honor about October 12th, 2025, at the
- 1:25:19location at 31 60 Laura Rd. that being the coal store that did
- 1:25:26commit the offense of retail fraud in the third degree.
- 1:25:28Do you understand the nature of that charge, ma'am?
- 1:25:31Yes. That's a misdemeanor punishable
- 1:25:34by up to 93 days in jail, $500 fine plus court cost.
- 1:25:37Fine could be increased to three times the value of the property
- 1:25:40taken. That's greater than $500.
- 1:25:42That would become the maximum fine.
- 1:25:44You understand that? Yes.
- 1:25:47All right. First question I have for you is
- 1:25:49do you wish to be represented by an attorney?
- 1:25:52Yes. This is a public defender.
- 1:25:54Case. Assistant Public Defender
- 1:26:00Natalie Kate with an on behalf Miss Bristow.
- 1:26:02We would waive any formal reading of the complaint.
- 1:26:04My client stands mute and I would ask for an adjourned
- 1:26:08pretrial date to receive a review.
- 1:26:09Discovery please. Been a heavy wave, formal
- 1:26:12reading, standing mute. The court will enter a not
- 1:26:15guilty plea on her behalf. Pretrial in this matter will be
- 1:26:23set for or 15th, 2026 Nine AM Grazer Invite indicates.
- 1:26:32We'll set the. Defendants bonded $5000.
- 1:26:35Personal recognizance Bond loader.
- 1:26:37Standard conditions including no assaulted behavior or possession
- 1:26:40of any weapons, ammunition or anything fast be a weapon
- 1:26:44loader. No alcohol, recreational
- 1:26:46marijuana or any illegal drugs. I will also order, ma'am, that
- 1:26:50you are not to go to any Kohl's store in the state of Michigan.
- 1:26:53You understand that? Is that a yes?
- 1:26:58Yes. Anything for this?
- 1:27:04Nothing for your honor. Thank you.
- 1:27:07Thank you. Thank you, ma'am.
- 1:27:10Thank you, I'm allowed to leave now.
- 1:27:13Yes. Cool.
- 1:27:16Court does call the case People versus Leandra Hardesty.
- 1:27:20Good morning, Your honor. For the people, Good morning,
- 1:27:22Your Honor. Dan Garrett, on behalf of Miss
- 1:27:24Hardesty stepping forward, state your name Leandra.
- 1:27:26Leandra Hardesty, sorry. Your honor, for random purposes,
- 1:27:30we'll wait and you, please. Ben and Rain.
- 1:27:34Oh, she has. Yeah, well.
- 1:27:36Even better, I take all that back, Cara.
- 1:27:37Fisher. All right, Mr. Cook and I've had
- 1:27:40some discussions. We're asking for an adjourned
- 1:27:42pretrial from his Hardesty to do some things behind the scenes.
- 1:27:45So if Your Honor would give us four or five weeks to get those
- 1:27:47things done, yes, maybe 4 weeks. And you can June. 3rd.
- 1:28:05That seems like 8. That's like. 8.
- 1:28:10Weeks. Six and five.
- 1:28:15Four. That's that's it, right?
- 1:28:18That's the perfect five. Yeah, it's.
- 1:28:24OK. We thought you had a vacation
- 1:28:32and then we that wasn't likely. Apparently I'm taking a month
- 1:28:35off. I don't know.
- 1:28:36May 6th you're telling 698 upon keeping you.
- 1:28:44What was OK, sorry. We'll talk later.
- 1:28:48Cortez called the case of the people versus Joshua Wara.
- 1:28:52Morning are ready to code for the people.
- 1:28:54Good morning, Judge Lawrence Margolis with Mr. Wara.
- 1:28:57Josh, please unmute yourself and state your name.
- 1:29:00Joshua Wara. How you doing, Mr. Wara?
- 1:29:04Good and human, judge. I think I'm doing OK.
- 1:29:08All right. Where are we on this case?
- 1:29:13So this is I think a set for a competency hearing.
- 1:29:16Today he was found competent. Mr. Cook and I are in
- 1:29:20discussions for a global resolution.
- 1:29:23Josh has several cases in this county and we're hoping to get
- 1:29:26them all resolved. We're.
- 1:29:28Asking. For two to I don't have do you
- 1:29:32have me set for a comp hearing me?
- 1:29:357. I think it said as a pre trial.
- 1:29:38I think the comp came in another case because I don't even have,
- 1:29:42I don't have a report. OK, OK.
- 1:29:45We'd ask for a short adjournment.
- 1:29:47We're going to try to wrap everything up.
- 1:29:50Josh is doing well. He did 2 short hot 1.
- 1:29:55Will. April will April 15th work or
- 1:29:58you need something like in I don't know what month she's
- 1:30:01giving me like August. No, I'm kidding.
- 1:30:04April 15th, I'm actually leaving town to go visit my daughter in
- 1:30:09Spain. If anything, two weeks after
- 1:30:12that would be wonderful. Or yeah, May 6th.
- 1:30:16Will May 6th work? Apparently, that's the thing.
- 1:30:19It will for me. All right.
- 1:30:21May 6th, 2026, 9:00 AM. Thank you, Josh.
- 1:30:27All right, Mr. Warren, take care of yourself, fella.
- 1:30:29Thank you, Josh. Thanks, Josh.
- 1:30:32We'll talk. Bye Court does call the case of
- 1:30:37the People versus Paul Wilson and you.
- 1:30:39Are able to cook for the. People.
- 1:30:40Great. I'm Phil Simon.
- 1:30:41I've been half of Watson, who's making his way to the podium and
- 1:30:50state your name, Paul. Good morning, Your honor.
- 1:30:52Good morning, Paul Watson. I haven't, I haven't said
- 1:30:58anything. I, you know, honestly, I was
- 1:31:00waiting for I, no, I, I was, I, I said to myself, there's Simon.
- 1:31:03I'm not going to say anything bad going to.
- 1:31:07I almost cautioned my client. I forgot that my my height would
- 1:31:10be referenced today, or lack thereof would be.
- 1:31:12For lack of height, yeah. Yeah, not.
- 1:31:14Much diff Were you with painted G blue you would have looked
- 1:31:20like a Smurf. But oh, what?
- 1:31:26I don't even know why I went there.
- 1:31:28I don't know. Anyway, you have a plea sheet in
- 1:31:34front of you, Your Honor, I think we reached.
- 1:31:35Your right I. Do police sheet indicates that
- 1:31:40the defendant is going to be pleading no contest to the
- 1:31:43charge of assault and or assault battery 93 day offense upon his
- 1:31:46successful plea. That's the stated count.
- 1:31:51It'll be pleading to the stated count.
- 1:31:52The there's a sentence agreement prosecutors deferred with no
- 1:31:57upfront jail. That's the court's full
- 1:31:58understanding and be agreed. That's correct, Your Honor.
- 1:32:01It is your honor. May I have any more OK?
- 1:32:04Salomon, swear to affirm the testimony you're about to give,
- 1:32:06to be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the
- 1:32:07truth. Self be God.
- 1:32:08I do. State your name.
- 1:32:09Please. Good morning, Your honor.
- 1:32:11Paul Wasson. Sir, it is this Court's
- 1:32:14understanding that you're going to plead no contest to the
- 1:32:16charge of assault and or assault and battery that is a
- 1:32:19misdemeanor punishable by after 93 days of jail, $500 fine plus
- 1:32:23court cost. Do you understand that, Sir?
- 1:32:25Yes, Your Honor. All right.
- 1:32:25Do you understand what a no contest for?
- 1:32:27Yes, your Honor. All right, two things about it,
- 1:32:29I have to make sure that you understand it first of all means
- 1:32:32that you're not further desirous or wanting to contest this
- 1:32:35charge. You understand that yes, Your
- 1:32:36Honor. Second thing is, is that for
- 1:32:38purposes of sentencing the court's going to treat you the
- 1:32:40same as though you had pled guilty.
- 1:32:42You understand that all right basis with a no contest for.
- 1:32:46Potential of civil. Liability, Sir, to that charge,
- 1:32:49how do you plead? No contested.
- 1:32:52You understand that by pleading no contest you will not have a
- 1:32:54trial of any kind signed in advisive rights form, is that
- 1:32:59correct? Yes, Your Honor.
- 1:33:00Any questions regarding any of those rights?
- 1:33:02No, Your Honor, please look at paragraph 5.
- 1:33:04You'll see a copy on the podium. Those are your rights which are
- 1:33:06part of a trial. You understand that by pleading
- 1:33:08guilty you'll be giving up or pleading no contest.
- 1:33:10You're giving up those rights as well as all the rights.
- 1:33:12On that form, yes, Your Honor. You understand you're giving up
- 1:33:14your right to appeal of right? Yes, Your Honor.
- 1:33:17Are you on probation or parole? No, no, Your Honor.
- 1:33:23Has anybody? Promised you anything other than
- 1:33:25what's stated here today on the record to.
- 1:33:27Get you to plead, Oh, your honor.
- 1:33:29Anybody threaten you or coerce? No, Your Honor, doing this
- 1:33:31voluntarily enough, your own free will.
- 1:33:34Yes, your Honor. Court has been provided and has
- 1:33:37reviewed Pitchfield Township Department of Public Safety
- 1:33:39report for their case number 25221 378.
- 1:33:44Any objection to the court having reviewed that was No,
- 1:33:48Your Honor. Based upon a review of that
- 1:33:50report, the Court does find that there's a sufficient factual
- 1:33:52basis in which the court could determine the penance guilt of
- 1:33:55this offense. Sir, I do have to advise you
- 1:33:58between the time of my acceptance of your plan, the
- 1:33:59time of sentencing, if you commit misconduct as defined by
- 1:34:02the Michigan Court rules, you would not be entitled to
- 1:34:05withdraw your plea and the court would not be bound by any
- 1:34:07sentence recommendation or evaluation.
- 1:34:10And that's that's your honor. Counselor, are you aware of any
- 1:34:12other promises, threats or other inducements which have led to
- 1:34:15this plea? None.
- 1:34:16From the people? None.
- 1:34:19And have I complied with? The court hall, yes.
- 1:34:20Your Honor. Yes, your Honor or we'll accept
- 1:34:23the defendants plea of no contest to this charge.
- 1:34:27Defendant is referred to probation for a pre sentence
- 1:34:30investigation report. Sentencing in this matter will
- 1:34:35be April. 29th that's all new. April 29th, 2026 noon What's
- 1:34:42wrong with me? OK, bond with it.
- 1:34:45Seditions will continue. Thank you, Your honor.
- 1:34:48Thank you, Sir Makes you're welcome, Sir.
- 1:34:50Make sure to stop down there probation there on the left hand
- 1:34:52side me with your son. I'm sorry.
- 1:34:57Nina, thank you for your $20 donation over at
- 1:34:59courtroomfiles.com. Very much appreciate that.
- 1:35:02Thank you so much. Mr. Chris E Toe, who is the
- 1:35:05attorney of record for Mr. Snyder case.
- 1:35:08State your name. Morning, Your honor, Meryl
- 1:35:11Schneider case don't have any or problem with Mr. Simon.
- 1:35:16Stan No, your Honor. All right as city Raymond way
- 1:35:20formal readings Stan Muse and in way formal readings in court
- 1:35:24will enter not guilty plea regarding the pretrial.
- 1:35:29Your Honor, Mister East Oaks spoke with Mr. Cook.
- 1:35:34He's requesting A lengthy adjournment so that my client
- 1:35:36can. Get his stat.
- 1:35:37Mr. Yousaf client can get his status hopefully remedied by the
- 1:35:41time we return to court. That June date that I heard
- 1:35:45announced earlier I think would work.
- 1:35:48June. Well, I thought I heard a date
- 1:35:52in June. I'm sorry, but that was kind of
- 1:35:58an error. Whatever the court deems you.
- 1:36:02How much time is he? Going to need to do it.
- 1:36:06Yeah, I'm coming. About 6 well I mean did you will
- 1:36:12it? Take all of that 4545 days he's
- 1:36:16saying it would probably take. What was that date you gave us
- 1:36:22wages for June what? June 3rd, 2026.
- 1:36:31Any bond is set at 5:00. 1000. PR standard conditions including
- 1:36:38no assault and possession of weapons.
- 1:36:41Thank you. Thank you, honor.
- 1:36:43Thank you, your honor. You're welcome all.
- 1:36:45Right. Wait for me outside please.
- 1:36:48Clerk. Calls gays people versus Ariana
- 1:36:50banks versus public defender cost symbols on behalf of the.
- 1:37:00Who's? Present by Zoom is banks.
- 1:37:01Can you set your phone number for the record please?
- 1:37:03Ariana Banks. You turn on your camera please.
- 1:37:08Oh yes, sorry, is it on? I can't see.
- 1:37:16You got it. No, we could see you.
- 1:37:18Hello. Hi there is the pre trial on
- 1:37:22this matter and we're going to be requesting an adjournment.
- 1:37:24There is an offer. It's some time to finalize that
- 1:37:27offer. Maybe.
- 1:37:29Solutions. For about two weeks.
- 1:37:32Retrial in this matter will be adjourned.
- 1:37:33April 15th, 2026 9:00 AM. Bond will continue.
- 1:37:37You said April 15th. Yes, ma'am.
- 1:37:40OK. Thank you.
- 1:37:42Thank you for Coast Case of the People versus Carlton Cross for
- 1:37:48the people, said Public Defender Costa Melissa, on behalf of
- 1:37:53Carlton Cross Patrickton. As I understand it, my client is
- 1:38:02currently in treatment. We did send them over to Zoom.
- 1:38:05Hello. Hello.
- 1:38:08My name is Carlton Cross. He's here.
- 1:38:13Thank you. You're.
- 1:38:14Welcome. We're going to be requesting an
- 1:38:16adjournment to track some other cases.
- 1:38:18My client has to be dashed for a date past the 7th of April.
- 1:38:21My client has the hearing with Judge Conky at that time.
- 1:38:26He's why. Just track.
- 1:38:28What's going on? With his felony cases so we just
- 1:38:30asked for an adjournment for past April 7th.
- 1:38:36I had a sobriety court is that they were trying to get him into
- 1:38:40sobriety court. That's correct.
- 1:38:44Trying to get into felony sobriety court or have this come
- 1:38:46along or what are we doing? Information I have is he had the
- 1:38:51hearing on April 7th with Judge Kunky and I believe the I'll
- 1:38:57adjourn it to April 15th, 2026, 9:00 AM.
- 1:39:01All right, Sir. All right, thank you, Judge
- 1:39:04Simpson. Thank you, Sir.
- 1:39:07Yep. There you go.
- 1:39:10Court House case People versus Otis Elliott, Public defender
- 1:39:18Costumable The defender. Otis Elliott.
- 1:39:21Sir, can you state your name? Otis Elliott, Sir.
- 1:39:25Thank you. What are we doing?
- 1:39:27We're requesting an adjournment to get some hospital mitigation
- 1:39:31mitigating information. What's my date after May 6th?
- 1:39:44Yes, Sir. Sure.
- 1:39:46Terry Sure. During the matter May 6th, 2020,
- 1:39:51any abound continues. Oh, I didn't know you heard
- 1:39:58that. I didn't.
- 1:39:59I couldn't see you. I just, I didn't know I felt
- 1:40:02unsafe for another Remo. And I felt.
- 1:40:06Unsafe I just it was on your hands to do so or it calls the
- 1:40:15case people versus Javon Foster. You're on agreement with.
- 1:40:19People. Probably could under cross
- 1:40:21symbol based on behalf. Bond Foster.
- 1:40:33Hello. Hello.
- 1:40:37Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you.
- 1:40:40I'm sorry. See you.
- 1:40:42We're good. What's your name?
- 1:40:44Jovan Foster. Thank you.
- 1:40:46What are we doing? John, are we requesting?
- 1:40:48And bring it for good coffee. Go ahead.
- 1:40:53We've. Not been able to contact Mr. Mr.
- 1:40:56Foster, so I, I would like him to contact the public defender's
- 1:40:59office and give us some good contact information.
- 1:41:03Mr. Foster, can you take down this phone number and please
- 1:41:05call them and update your contact?
- 1:41:06Yeah, I got. I got.
- 1:41:07It's, it's all of my stuff. Is, is, is still the same.
- 1:41:10My phone was just off. I just paid my phone bill last
- 1:41:13night. I'm sorry.
- 1:41:13You can call them to make sure that they have the information.
- 1:41:16OK, you got something to write down a phone number?
- 1:41:20I got, I got the, I got all the information.
- 1:41:22My phone was just off. I just had to pay my phone bill.
- 1:41:26Oh. Understood.
- 1:41:29Yeah, I literally just paid it last night.
- 1:41:31I'm sorry you paid it last night.
- 1:41:33Yes, Sir. So it's on.
- 1:41:36Yes, Sir. All right, April 15th.
- 1:41:40I'm good. Thanks on continue.
- 1:41:41Thank you, Sir. Thank you.
- 1:41:44All. Right, friends, let's change it
- 1:41:47up. Let's stay in Michigan, but we
- 1:41:49will go to Saint Joseph County. Say good morning to Judge
- 1:41:51Middleton. Mr. Barnett will be with you in
- 1:41:59a few minutes. Good morning.
- 1:42:07Are you Devon Allen Martin? Yes.
- 1:42:10This is file number 251308 FD. This started out in the original
- 1:42:21complaint as a felony. FD is a felony designation
- 1:42:33charged with operating with a high blood alcohol level,
- 1:42:36operating with an incapacitating injury.
- 1:42:40Let's look at the original charging document.
- 1:43:04Thank you, all right. The original complaint alleged
- 1:43:11that on June July 6th of 2025 in this case, which is. 2. 51308 FD
- 1:43:21People versus Devon Martin. The defendant was charged with
- 1:43:26operating while intoxicated causing a serious injury,
- 1:43:30operating with a high blood alcohol level and reckless
- 1:43:34driving. I don't believe there was an
- 1:43:39affidavit that accompanied it. The felony charges were
- 1:43:46dismissed and the drinking driving charge was dismissed and
- 1:43:51the defendant ended up entering A plea to reckless driving.
- 1:43:56Reckless driving is a misdemeanor.
- 1:43:58It's punishable by up to 93 days in jail and a fine of up to
- 1:44:03$500. It does carry a suspension of
- 1:44:06sometimes 60 days, I think, and six points.
- 1:44:12So the felony charge of operating with an incapacitating
- 1:44:17injury was dismissed and the operating while intoxicated was
- 1:44:21dismissed, Your Honor. Yes, he actually pled guilty to
- 1:44:24operating with BAC, High BAC. All right, that's what I show
- 1:44:29here, I guess. Let me look at it.
- 1:44:31Thank you to Priscilla. So the settlement, thank you
- 1:44:43resolve the I'm looking for the the judgment resolved the case
- 1:44:50with a conviction, but the restitution was not negotiated
- 1:44:54as a part of the plea agreement. The defendant was sentenced on
- 1:45:00the eighth. Let me look for the judgment.
- 1:45:10I had all this earlier this morning.
- 1:45:12I was sentenced on the 5th. Of January.
- 1:45:15All right, the 5th. I guess it was.
- 1:45:42This e-mail to the Judgment. I've got it in here.
- 1:45:44I had looked at it earlier this morning.
- 1:45:57I could find it. Nothing's in order.
- 1:45:59It's just all Willy nilly. At any rate, we had not did not
- 1:46:15have the restitution information at that time and the issue had
- 1:46:20not been resolved. So I reserved on the issue of
- 1:46:22restitution. A few days later, on February
- 1:46:3212th, we got the request for restitution.
- 1:46:38So the sentence had been completed by reserved on
- 1:46:42restitution. Another month passed before we
- 1:46:45got the amended request for restitution asking for $4097.42
- 1:46:56a floor Jack, jumper cables, prescription sunglasses, loss of
- 1:47:02PTO hours $2710.72 worked on to make AC and car work shortly
- 1:47:12before the accident. Mr. Gibson objects to paying for
- 1:47:18a repair that preceded the accident and the tires that the
- 1:47:23victim did not get the full benefit of, so I'm not sure how
- 1:47:28that shakes out, but the request was for $4097.42.
- 1:47:33If I'd had this information at the time of the sentence, I
- 1:47:38would have dealt with it then. Or.
- 1:47:40Hopefully it would have maybe been negotiated as part of the
- 1:47:43plea, but we didn't have that, so the defendant objects.
- 1:47:49Prosecutor is now requesting restitution of $4097 and $0.42,
- 1:47:58and I can't just wave my magic wand and make that happen.
- 1:48:02So we set it for a hearing. Anjuli Campfield is here on
- 1:48:08behalf of the prosecutor. Looks like we may also have
- 1:48:11additional witnesses. Miss Campfield, what's the
- 1:48:15position of the state here? Oh yeah.
- 1:48:19I know. The position of this state is
- 1:48:20that the testimony will provide the court evidence that even
- 1:48:26though there was some insurance recovery for the vehicle, it was
- 1:48:30a total loss. The vehicle needed to be
- 1:48:32replaced and as a result of that, some of the repairs to the
- 1:48:36vehicle that were just prior to, inclusive of replacing and re
- 1:48:41energizing an air conditioning system as well as placing new
- 1:48:45tires on the vehicle were not fully realized because the
- 1:48:48vehicle was then totaled. And as the court is aware,
- 1:48:51insurance companies often do not pay the entire value of a
- 1:48:56vehicle when they total it. They pay what they think is
- 1:48:59appropriate and in this particular situation, I believe
- 1:49:03it would be covered under in Ray McAvoy, 267 Mish.
- 1:49:07App 55 at pages 77 through 88. The restitution is not just all
- 1:49:14right. Well, give me the citation.
- 1:49:15Give me the citation again. I'm sorry, 267 Mish app page 55
- 1:49:25and then it's pages 77 through 78, 2005 case.
- 1:49:32That said, it's not appropriate to order just what the insurance
- 1:49:36company would have compensated them for the damaged property,
- 1:49:39but rather the actual loss that was sustained by replacement
- 1:49:44value. And obviously, if you're only
- 1:49:47paid $3000 for a vehicle and you would like to replace it with
- 1:49:50another Prius or another operative vehicle, in today's
- 1:49:54market that is not going to suffice.
- 1:49:56Well, this is a subject we teach at sentencing a new judge
- 1:50:00school. This is an interesting question.
- 1:50:04And that they're asking for pre-existing expenditures.
- 1:50:11It isn't automatically the restitution is what the
- 1:50:16insurance will pay for the car. The hypothetical example we give
- 1:50:22is somebody's mother has a Mercury marquee that's in really
- 1:50:27mint shape. She drives it back and forth to
- 1:50:29church every Sunday and it's a 1997.
- 1:50:35It's worth a lot of money to her.
- 1:50:38It's ruined. The insurance company pays $1500
- 1:50:42for it, and to replace it would be 7 to $10,000.
- 1:50:49It's a question that comes up all over the state all the time.
- 1:50:57In this case, I don't know. I don't know what the vehicle
- 1:51:01was, how much it was paid for. Now some of the things are easy
- 1:51:08to determine, things that were lost that were not recovered,
- 1:51:15the Jack, jumper cables, prescription sunglasses.
- 1:51:25I never had anybody ask for the cost of tire iron before.
- 1:51:29Worked on to make the car before the accident. 55959 and 4000 for
- 1:51:37$424.00. So there's a lot of money that
- 1:51:42she's asking for for something that presumably would have been
- 1:51:49part of the settlement on the car. 55959 plus 4/24/84 IS98443
- 1:52:08or tires and ACI didn't see that one coming.
- 1:52:16The other one is PTO Hours 2710. Your Honor, I can tell you that
- 1:52:25the testimony regarding the PTO hours will be the victim's
- 1:52:30father. It's my understanding that he
- 1:52:33had to cash out his PTO hours in order to have enough money along
- 1:52:39with adding in the insurance recovery in order to purchase
- 1:52:43another vehicle for the victim to have to get back and forth to
- 1:52:47work, the grocery store and and to do her daily living.
- 1:52:51They just did not have those funds available without him
- 1:52:54doing so. So that will of course, be a
- 1:52:56decision of the court with respect to that.
- 1:52:58I know the victims is absolutely recoverable.
- 1:53:01There will be testimony from her about how.
- 1:53:03Victims are. I'm not sure if her fathers are.
- 1:53:06There'll be testimony from her loss of income as well as how it
- 1:53:11affected her work. All right, well, let's get
- 1:53:17started. This is going to take us a while
- 1:53:20here. We didn't.
- 1:53:22I, I guess I would say that we that we, I don't have any
- 1:53:26information. On any of the.
- 1:53:29Injuries that were sustained because I guess that's what I
- 1:53:32guess where I see the request for restitution, but I we never
- 1:53:36got any information about the like in a sense, what injury was
- 1:53:40suffered from the accident that's made it where the person
- 1:53:43couldn't work, I guess. The medical records were all
- 1:53:46provided in the discovery of the underlying case runner.
- 1:53:49Mr. Gibson has had those for quite some time.
- 1:53:52The victim was taken to the hospital.
- 1:53:57Yes, there's no hospital costs for anything in here.
- 1:54:02Correct. All right.
- 1:54:07Understanding those were covered by medical and or vehicle
- 1:54:10insurance. I guess I apologize.
- 1:54:20I, I do. We do have medical records.
- 1:54:22I guess what I'm saying is that I didn't know what the well, I'm
- 1:54:25just frustrated. I wish this had been negotiated
- 1:54:28as part of the plea agreement. He got a sweet benefit of having
- 1:54:31the matter reduced from a felony to a misdemeanor, and it could
- 1:54:35have been conditioned on agreeing upon the restitution
- 1:54:39amount. So we have 1/2 an hour scheduled
- 1:54:43for about a three hour. Hearing.
- 1:54:46And so we also have Mr. George. Is that the only one you have
- 1:54:51this morning? Let's table this for a moment.
- 1:54:54Let's finish Mr. George's sentence, and then we'll come
- 1:54:58back to this. Yeah, or I'll shut the record
- 1:55:12off. The live stream is on.
- 1:55:30Okey Dokey will come back when they come back.
- 1:55:34In the meantime, let's go. Let's go back to Judge
- 1:55:37O'Donnell. Are you waiving that right?
- 1:55:41Yes. Judge, if you go to trial, the
- 1:55:43prosecutor will call witnesses to testify against you.
- 1:55:45Do you understand the prosecutor must prove you guilty beyond a
- 1:55:48reasonable doubt? At a trial, Yes, Judge.
- 1:55:51After the witnesses have done testifying for the prosecutor,
- 1:55:54you have the constitutional right to have your lawyer cross
- 1:55:56examine those witnesses. Do you understand that right?
- 1:55:58Yes, Judge. Are you waiving that right?
- 1:56:00Yes, Judge. If you go to trial, you have the
- 1:56:03right to have witnesses come here and testify for you.
- 1:56:05Do you understand that right? Yes, Judge.
- 1:56:07Are you waiving that right? Yes, Judge.
- 1:56:09If those witnesses refuse to come to court, I'll issue an
- 1:56:13order called a subpoena to make them come and testify.
- 1:56:15Do you understand that right? Are you waiving that right?
- 1:56:19You have the right to testify at trial if you want to.
- 1:56:21Do you understand that right? Are you waiving that right?
- 1:56:24You have the constitutional right to not testify at trial if
- 1:56:28you do not want to. Do you understand that right?
- 1:56:31Are you waiving that right If you decide not to testify at
- 1:56:34trial, nobody is permitted to comment on that decision.
- 1:56:37Do you understand that if you go to trial and you're found
- 1:56:40guilty, you have the right to appeal the guilty finding?
- 1:56:42Do you understand that right? Yes, yes.
- 1:56:45Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 1:56:46Yes. If you file an appeal, you have
- 1:56:48the constitutional right. They have a lawyer represent you
- 1:56:50in the appeal. Do you understand that, right?
- 1:56:52Yes. Yes.
- 1:56:52Are you waving that right? Yes.
- 1:56:54If you could not afford to hire a lawyer, one would be provided
- 1:56:57at no cost to you. Do you understand that?
- 1:56:59Yes. Yes.
- 1:57:00If you file an appeal, you're entitled to have a transcript of
- 1:57:02all the hearings in this case. Do you understand that, right?
- 1:57:05Yes, Sir. Are you waving that right?
- 1:57:06Yes, Sir. If you could not afford a copy
- 1:57:08of those transcripts, it'd be given to you at no cost.
- 1:57:11Do you understand that? Yes, Sir.
- 1:57:13If you plead guilty today, you will not have the right to
- 1:57:15appeal the guilty finding. Do you understand that?
- 1:57:18Yes, Sir. Do you have any questions about
- 1:57:20any of these rights? No Sir, no judge.
- 1:57:22Do you still want to plead guilty to this charge?
- 1:57:25Yes, Sir. Do you understand?
- 1:57:26By pleading guilty or fully admitting your guilt to the
- 1:57:28charge. Yes, Sir, do.
- 1:57:30You understand by pleading guilty to this felony that
- 1:57:32you're voluntarily giving up your freedom for whatever period
- 1:57:35of time I can sent you to prison, to jail, or to community
- 1:57:38control. Yes, Sir.
- 1:57:40The attempted favor to comply with the order or signal of a
- 1:57:42police officer is a felony 5 It carries a 12 month maximum
- 1:57:47prison sentence and a $2500 maximum fine.
- 1:57:51Do you understand that? Yes, there.
- 1:57:54Is is there? Does that driver's license
- 1:57:56suspension apply? Not when it's a detective, all
- 1:58:00right? Do you understand that if a
- 1:58:07prison term is imposed in this case, you might have to serve a
- 1:58:10period of post release control for up to two years under the
- 1:58:13parole authority? If you are placed on post
- 1:58:16release control and violate any conditions, the parole authority
- 1:58:19could return you to prison for up to six months.
- 1:58:21Do you understand that? If that violation is a new
- 1:58:24felony, you could get an additional consecutive prison
- 1:58:26sentence for the violation, do you understand that?
- 1:58:30And if that were to occur, the maximum prison sentence for the
- 1:58:32violation would be the greater of 12 months or the time left
- 1:58:35under post release control. Do you understand that?
- 1:58:39Do you understand that if a prison term is imposed, you are
- 1:58:41eligible for judicial release? I could place you on community
- 1:58:45control for up to five years, but if you violate any
- 1:58:48conditions, I could send you to prison for 12 months.
- 1:58:50Do you understand that? Has anybody promised you that I
- 1:58:53would be lenient on you just because you're pleading guilty
- 1:58:56today? No, judge.
- 1:58:57Has anybody promised you what I will sentence you to in this?
- 1:58:59Case No, judge. Do you understand I do not have
- 1:59:01to follow the sentencing recommendation of either the
- 1:59:04prosecutor? Or your lawyer.
- 1:59:05Yes, Judge, Have you had enough time to talk with Mr. Volcano?
- 1:59:08It's before pleading guilty today.
- 1:59:10Yes, Judge. Has he discussed everything
- 1:59:12about your case and answered all of your questions?
- 1:59:14Yes, Judge. Are you satisfied with the
- 1:59:16advice he has given? You.
- 1:59:17I am Judge. Have you been threatened or
- 1:59:19coerced in any way to plead guilty today?
- 1:59:21No, judge. Are you freely, knowingly and
- 1:59:23voluntarily entering your guilty?
- 1:59:25Plea. Yes, Judge.
- 1:59:25Do you have any questions at this point?
- 1:59:27No judge all. Right miss cuts if the case went
- 1:59:29to trial, the evidence show. Thank you your Honor.
- 1:59:32Have this matter proceeded to trial?
- 1:59:34The state would have proven beyond a reasonable doubt that
- 1:59:36on December 16th of 2025, Manor Police Department was
- 1:59:40investigating a hit skip report from the Ford dealership located
- 1:59:44in Manor, Lake County, Ohio involving a white Hyundai Tucson
- 1:59:48driven by Amy Funk. Her car was struck by a was
- 1:59:53later turned via blue Dodge Ram that came back to the defendant
- 1:59:56Darius Johnson and traffic stop was conducted State Route 2
- 2:00:01eastbound east of Heisley Rd. where the driver and only
- 2:00:04occupant was in fact the defendant Darius Johnson.
- 2:00:08While speaking with police at the traffic stop, he was
- 2:00:11attempting to get a copy of his insurance card.
- 2:00:14The police went to look into other matters and to get him the
- 2:00:18report number and said they would be back.
- 2:00:20While they were dealing with other issues, defendant drove
- 2:00:23away from the traffic stop without being told he was free
- 2:00:28to leave. Defendant did later call the
- 2:00:31police and indicate that he was willing to pay for the damages.
- 2:00:38Video camera footage was able to be reviewed from the Ford
- 2:00:42dealership as well. All this occurring in Lake
- 2:00:44County, Ohio, and that would have been the state's evidence.
- 2:00:48All right, Mr. Volcano, it's you have anything to add to those
- 2:00:50facts? Not at this.
- 2:00:54Time, Your Honor. Mr. Johnson, did you hear what
- 2:00:56Miss Cuts said that the facts would show if this case went to
- 2:00:59the trial? Yes, yes.
- 2:01:00Are those facts true? Yes, yes.
- 2:01:02What is your plea to the attempted fair to comply with
- 2:01:05the order or signal of a police officer, a felony 5.
- 2:01:08Guilty, Judge. All right, Mr. Volcanowitz.
- 2:01:30So just date it there and then sign there.
- 2:02:13Here I have received the written plea of guilty in judgment.
- 2:02:14We have witnesses been and signed the document on the
- 2:02:16court. Just got to sign what?
- 2:02:19Can I? Send it.
- 2:02:20All right. Mr. Johnson, is this your
- 2:02:22signature on the written plea of guilty?
- 2:02:24Yes, Judge. Did you sign it voluntarily?
- 2:02:26Yes, Judge. Do you want me to accept your
- 2:02:28written plea of guilty? Yes, Judge.
- 2:02:30I'll accept the I will accept the written plea of guilty.
- 2:02:33Defender was present with counsel advised of all of his
- 2:02:36rights and annoying intelligent voluntary waiver.
- 2:02:39He understands the nature of the charge and consequence of his
- 2:02:41guilty plea and the maximum penalty.
- 2:02:43Find out to be knowing, intelligent and voluntary.
- 2:02:45I will accept the plea of guilty and find him guilty of the
- 2:02:48attempted fair to comply a felony. 5.
- 2:02:51I'll refer this for a presence report and victim impact
- 2:02:54statement. Sentencing will be May 13 at
- 2:02:572:00. Bond is continued at $5000 cash
- 2:03:00for short of your 10%. You are permitted to reside in
- 2:03:06Cuyahoga if that's where you reside and you are permitted to
- 2:03:09travel. Council tells me.
- 2:03:11That you got a trip to Ocean City, NJ?
- 2:03:13You can. You can.
- 2:03:16You are permitted to travel for that purpose.
- 2:03:18Any further missed cuts? No, thank you, Your Honor.
- 2:03:21Mr. Volcano, it's anything. No, Your Honor.
- 2:03:24Thank you. All right.
- 2:03:25We're adjourned all. Right.
- 2:03:31Councilor, you got the Okie Dokie friends.
- 2:03:34Let's go back to Judge Middleton.
- 2:03:37He's returned to the bench Which?
- 2:03:39Case are you folks here on all right?
- 2:04:36None. All right, let's pick up here
- 2:04:51with people versus Samuel Robert Barnett.
- 2:04:55File number is 26195, SM Mr. Barnett was charged with
- 2:05:02domestic violence or domestic assault, entered A plea to that
- 2:05:06matter, and the matter was set for sentencing for today.
- 2:05:11The prosecutor did offer the deferred option for the
- 2:05:19sentence. I wanted to get more
- 2:05:22information, get input from the. Complaint.
- 2:05:25Witness And so the matter was set for today.
- 2:05:31In the meantime, that allegation came up regarding a bond
- 2:05:34violation and that he made contact with the complainant on
- 2:05:47March 5th in violation of the don't contact provision of the
- 2:05:51bond. The defendant is here with his
- 2:05:54lawyer, Mr. Timothy George. Also, Joshua Bear and Abigail
- 2:06:00Stole are here for the prosecutor.
- 2:06:04Are we going to continue with the original plea, with the
- 2:06:07sentence, with the original plea, with the deferral?
- 2:06:10Yes, you are. And then regarding the bond
- 2:06:12violation, what's our status with that?
- 2:06:15Who dismissed the bond violation of this time?
- 2:06:17We feel like the dependent being placed on that kind of intensive
- 2:06:22DV probation that the court typically orders in one of these
- 2:06:25cases will safeguard the victim and that no contact order will
- 2:06:29be in place. And speaking with Mr. George, it
- 2:06:31sounds like his client agrees wholeheartedly that that no
- 2:06:35contact should be in place. All right, Mr. George, what
- 2:06:41would you like me to know regarding the sentence?
- 2:06:43Well, and I know we started last week a little bit around her,
- 2:06:46but I think the court can get a a sense of there's a lot of
- 2:06:51animosity between the two parties in this case.
- 2:06:55I know that the court's position and your admonishment of my
- 2:06:59client last week, I think really had a significant effect on
- 2:07:03them. You know, he understands how
- 2:07:05seriously this court is when it gives orders and it's going to
- 2:07:09be incumbent on my client moving forward.
- 2:07:12If the court were to put him on a probation to follow those
- 2:07:14orders, we would stipulate that the no contact order stay in
- 2:07:17place. You know, based on some of the
- 2:07:20things that have happened over the past month or so, I think
- 2:07:23that that would be appropriate. It would also give, you know,
- 2:07:26the victims some ease regarding any type of communication with
- 2:07:29my client going forward. And my client just needs to
- 2:07:32focus on himself and his family and his treatment and make sure
- 2:07:35that something like this doesn't happen again.
- 2:07:37So, you know, we would ask the court to follow the terms of the
- 2:07:41plea agreement. I don't believe my client has
- 2:07:42any type of criminal history that bar him from the deferred
- 2:07:45probation. Believe he could use it.
- 2:07:48He's still very young. There's very young kids that are
- 2:07:52involved in this case. So my client's going to need to
- 2:07:55find some tools to cope with some of the issues that he's
- 2:07:58having and I think this probation would offer him.
- 2:08:01So we'd ask the court to follow the plea agreement to put him on
- 2:08:03the domestic violence. For probation.
- 2:08:05Thank you. All right, Mr. O'bear, what's
- 2:08:17your position? We asked the court to follow the
- 2:08:22plea agreement, place them on that probation order, the no
- 2:08:25contact order, some type of DV or anchor management as part of
- 2:08:29that probation so that this is a situation that does not repeat
- 2:08:35itself. All right.
- 2:08:40One of the things I adjourn this for is I want to hear from
- 2:08:43Angelica Burke. And she's here, she can address
- 2:08:46the court if. You'd like.
- 2:08:49And the further complicated things, The parties don't have
- 2:08:51any contact, but she's pregnant and he's married to someone else
- 2:08:57and she's got his child and there's a lot of animosity.
- 2:09:03Miss Burke, would you come forward if you wish to?
- 2:09:06You don't have to if you don't want to, but I'd like to at.
- 2:09:09The podium where? She can take mine.
- 2:09:10Take your spot. All right.
- 2:09:20Thank you for being here. You're Angelica Burke.
- 2:09:24All right, This all happened on a very bad day in February.
- 2:09:32Dan Samuel got arrested. It was all at the Tower Motel, I
- 2:09:37think, wasn't it? Broke tobacco and dumped beer.
- 2:09:43And anyway, what would you like me to know?
- 2:09:54So honestly, I don't know. I don't know what to say.
- 2:10:01Well, let me ask a couple questions.
- 2:10:03You're getting prenatal care for your baby.
- 2:10:08Is that yes? Yeah.
- 2:10:09Where's your doctor? Kalamazoo, MI.
- 2:10:13OK, what's your due date? August 24th.
- 2:10:18And so at this point, you're going through all your prenatal
- 2:10:22stuff by your at least without Samuel being involved in it.
- 2:10:27Is that true? Yes, All right.
- 2:10:30And he's going to be the father of this child which is going to
- 2:10:32be born in August. And that's rough all the way
- 2:10:37around, not to mention for the child.
- 2:10:40But at this point you don't wish to have any contact with them,
- 2:10:43is that true? Correct.
- 2:10:49And one thing I wasn't clear completely on was he intoxicated
- 2:10:58when this happened? Tell me about that.
- 2:11:03He was got off work come like he was gone all day.
- 2:11:07You know, he even told me he was joking and he I had a feeling
- 2:11:13that he was going to come home drunk.
- 2:11:15And that's exactly what happened.
- 2:11:17He come home drunk. Well, he also drove home, didn't
- 2:11:20he? Yeah.
- 2:11:21So he drove home drunk, correct? Yes.
- 2:11:25All right, go ahead. He had also was driving in
- 2:11:32Constantine. You know, people have seen them
- 2:11:34over there. Or the problem with that is his
- 2:11:37PBT was .00 when the state police pulled them over.
- 2:11:44So I'm not sure what that's about, but that's why there was
- 2:11:48no drunk driving component to this.
- 2:11:52But go ahead. I mean, honest, I think it might
- 2:12:00have not been alcohol. I mean, I know it was alcohol,
- 2:12:02but I think he's on drugs. OK.
- 2:12:08What's your plan moving forward? Do you have do you have other
- 2:12:11kids? I just have my nine month old
- 2:12:14and then this one and then I'm working on They found me a place
- 2:12:20to go. Now is he's also the father of
- 2:12:23the nine month old. All right, So this is a rough
- 2:12:27gig. You're going to have two kids
- 2:12:29and he's the father and he's married to somebody else and we
- 2:12:36got a no contact provision. All right, what the prosecutor
- 2:12:44is proposing is that I put him on the most intensive domestic
- 2:12:49violence probation that we have. He will do the domestic violence
- 2:12:54treatment program. He will not be allowed to drink
- 2:12:57any alcohol or use any drugs. I will test his blood or urine
- 2:13:02periodically to make sure he isn't using drugs or alcohol and
- 2:13:07he isn't have any contact with you until I say so.
- 2:13:11If you wish to lift the no contact provision, I can do
- 2:13:16that. If he successfully completes all
- 2:13:19that, the charge would be set aside as a public record of
- 2:13:23conviction. So he contacted you in violation
- 2:13:29of the bond. The prosecutors willing to drop
- 2:13:31that. If he does it again, I'm going
- 2:13:33to put him in jail and I've got up to 93 days to work with.
- 2:13:41So no drugs, no alcohol testing, no assaulting behavior, no
- 2:13:47contact with you. And I'm going to send him to the
- 2:13:50domestic violence treatment program.
- 2:13:53That's what the prosecutor is requesting.
- 2:13:56So that's what that's where we're headed.
- 2:13:59So you stay right where you are. Mr. Barnett.
- 2:14:05I usually give the defendant the last word.
- 2:14:07Probably the less you say you're the better.
- 2:14:09But is there anything you wish to tell me?
- 2:14:18All right, I'm glad everybody is here.
- 2:14:21This is a contentious situation and is not easily resolved
- 2:14:31because to some extent you guys are stuck with each other for
- 2:14:33the next 18 years. But I don't want to use any
- 2:14:40drugs. I don't want to use any alcohol.
- 2:14:42I don't want any salty behavior. I'm doing a 24 month probation.
- 2:14:53I did one day in jail. I'm going to do 61 days in jail.
- 2:14:57Credit one of the 61 days, 60 are deferred.
- 2:15:04So I got at least 60 days hanging over your head and I've
- 2:15:06got 93 days that I can use to make the fine.
- 2:15:10Zero. You got enough other stuff to
- 2:15:12pay. There's a $75 crime victims
- 2:15:16rights fee, a $50 state minimum fee, $150.00 attorney fee, $960
- 2:15:24probation oversight fee. If you do this in one year, the
- 2:15:29statute says if you do a good job on probation, you're
- 2:15:32entitled to reduced half. So if you can do it within one
- 2:15:36year, it'll save you $480 and you're gonna pay for the class.
- 2:15:42I'm doing the full DV class. No assault or threatening
- 2:15:50behavior, drugs and alcohol testing as directed.
- 2:15:55No contact. You can contact the probation
- 2:16:01department at some point if you wish to have us lift no contact
- 2:16:08provision A while He's on this probation, he's not to have any
- 2:16:15contact with, you know, telephone calls, no texts, no
- 2:16:19emails, no Facebook, nothing, which is rough because you're
- 2:16:27about to have a child and you have another child.
- 2:16:31You're very irresponsible in that regard.
- 2:16:33But you got a nine month old and another one on the way and
- 2:16:40you're married to somebody else and all the way you're going to
- 2:16:45get support issues and this isn't great.
- 2:16:50Anyway, if I can get you through the domestic violence class and
- 2:16:53keep you drug and alcohol free for a year, maybe we're off to a
- 2:16:57good start. I'm assuming you don't receive
- 2:17:06any child support or financial assistance from him?
- 2:17:09Not. Yet.
- 2:17:19All right, this is not great. We'll do the best we can.
- 2:17:28Mr. Barnett, I got 60 days hanging over your head.
- 2:17:32The prosecutor agreed to dismiss the one bond violation knowing I
- 2:17:37got 60 days to hang over your head and I won't take much for
- 2:17:43me to impose it. So I want you to comply with the
- 2:17:46terms of your bond and I mean of your probation.
- 2:17:49And if you complete the probation, the charge will be
- 2:17:51made non public. Are you working somewhere?
- 2:18:01I'm getting ready to. I have an interview today at
- 2:18:03Elwood after I leave here. All right.
- 2:18:19I want you to take this, Tim. I'll have you take it.
- 2:18:21Yes, Sir. We're getting you.
- 2:18:23Plugged into probation. In fact, why don't you guys
- 2:18:26leave first? I don't want you to have a
- 2:18:28confrontation with him out in the hallway or the parking lot.
- 2:18:32So you guys are good to go. If you have questions or
- 2:18:36concerns, call the prosecutor's office or the probation
- 2:18:40department and we'll address those.
- 2:18:47Thank you. Thank you.
- 2:18:52All right, Mr. Barnett, I want you to hold up your end of the
- 2:18:55deal and we'll see what we got. Thank you.
- 2:19:06All right. Thank you for your patience.
- 2:19:08I'll stop the record and then we'll get back into our
- 2:19:10restitution hearing, you know, which is kind of like you're
- 2:19:17like a legal argument. Maybe I should see a PTO.
- 2:19:28And if you take away the PTO that even he agreed to
- 2:19:32everything else but it seems like he might.
- 2:19:35Well, that's the old one. Right, that doesn't have.
- 2:19:37The the thing about the tires she she attached.
- 2:19:41A receipt for those. Tires, and they were purchased
- 2:19:43like in December, so she would have had those tires for seven
- 2:19:46months before 7:00 or 8:00. Months, but I guess.
- 2:19:52Present those things and see what he determines immediately.
- 2:19:56But these items were in the. Vehicle.
- 2:19:59And not recovered. Couldn't could be insured if she
- 2:20:02got if she got PRP benefits. Can the insurance companies see
- 2:20:06him? Can they come after him?
- 2:20:07For this and. We can make him do that and she
- 2:20:12can recover it criminally. Right, right.
- 2:20:14But I'm saying. It's just the easiest problem is
- 2:20:18to have it done. I mean, if he wants to just
- 2:20:31agree to the things that are in the car, I can just.
- 2:20:36OK, friends, we're a couple minutes in the Way Back machine
- 2:20:39here with Judge Middleton, but I want to stay with him because
- 2:20:42that restitution hearing that was started before he walked
- 2:20:47away is getting continued. So I'm just going to bump us
- 2:20:51forward here a little bit and then get that wrapped back up.
- 2:21:00How's this? Your Honor, after some further
- 2:21:06conversation with counsel, it's my understanding that we'll be
- 2:21:10able to limit the testimony to matters and dispute.
- 2:21:13But at this time the defendant would stipulate to restitution
- 2:21:18for the floor Jack of 6995, the jumper cables of $31.78, the
- 2:21:27prescription sunglasses for $273, and the tire iron for
- 2:21:33$27.54. So that's a total of $402.27.
- 2:21:41And then we'll have to present testimony as to the other
- 2:21:44expenses. All right.
- 2:21:47Are you prepared to do that? Of course.
- 2:21:49Mr. Gibson, you agree? And Mr. Martin, you agreed the
- 2:21:53restitution on those items. Yes, Your Honor.
- 2:21:56All right. And the defendant did indicate.
- 2:21:59All right, let's proceed. Thank you, Your Honor.
- 2:22:02We'll call Miss Kayla Shockley to the stand.
- 2:22:07Please come forward if you would come right up here in the
- 2:22:14witness box. I'm sorry we didn't give you
- 2:22:16very good instructions. Oh, wait a minute, Instruct
- 2:22:25people how to bring their witness from there to here.
- 2:22:27And we kind of got off track here.
- 2:22:30Would you please raise your right hand?
- 2:22:32You swear or affirm? Any testimony you're about to
- 2:22:35give here will be true to the best of your knowledge and
- 2:22:38belief. I.
- 2:22:39Do all right, Would you have a seat and state and spell your
- 2:22:42name for me? I am Michaela.
- 2:22:47Shockley. You said spell.
- 2:22:51Go ahead, spell. It let's.
- 2:22:54Spell MICHAELASHOCKLEY Good morning, Miss Shaklee.
- 2:23:04I'm going to take you and back to July 5th of 2025.
- 2:23:08Ma'am, do you recall that day? I do.
- 2:23:11And the evening time at approximately what would be 11
- 2:23:18thirtyish. Were you driving your vehicle?
- 2:23:21I was. Where were you driving your
- 2:23:23vehicle? I was driving home after work on
- 2:23:27what Rd. Ma'am?
- 2:23:29US 131 and was that within Saint Joseph County?
- 2:23:32Ma'am? It was.
- 2:23:34And as you were driving home from work, did something unusual
- 2:23:37happen? It did.
- 2:23:39Were you involved in a motor vehicle accident?
- 2:23:42I was. What was the vehicle you were
- 2:23:44driving at that time? A 2013 Model 4 Prius.
- 2:23:51What was the color on? Navy blue?
- 2:23:54Can you tell me what special things a model Thor has in it
- 2:23:58that maybe some other Prius models do not?
- 2:24:01It has a backup camera, it has a navigation system and hands free
- 2:24:16enhanced breaking. You said hands free mode.
- 2:24:19Oh, hands free. Thank you.
- 2:24:24All right. And as you were driving home
- 2:24:26that night on July 5th of last year after the accident, was the
- 2:24:31vehicle operable? It was hot.
- 2:24:33Would you recollect how it looked after the accident if you
- 2:24:38saw photographs of saying I would?
- 2:24:46May I approach your Honor? Yes, I'm going to show you
- 2:24:49people's proposed Exhibit 1 and for the record, all the people's
- 2:24:52exhibits. Have been shown to the defense.
- 2:24:55Do you recognize that photograph, ma'am?
- 2:24:57I do. Is that your vehicle?
- 2:25:00It is. Is that subsequent to the
- 2:25:02accident that you were involved in?
- 2:25:04It is. Is that the accident that the
- 2:25:06defendant was convicted for drunk driving?
- 2:25:09It is right. And I'm going to show you
- 2:25:12people's proposed Exhibit 2, first of all, Exhibit 1, can you
- 2:25:18tell me which portion of the vehicle that shows Yes, that is
- 2:25:23my trunk from where he impacted And Exhibit 2, do you recognize
- 2:25:29that, Neil? I do.
- 2:25:31What is that a picture of that is the left hand side, the
- 2:25:35driver's side of my car. All right.
- 2:25:39Were you seat belted at the time of this accident?
- 2:25:43I was and let me ask. You when you.
- 2:25:46Were subsequently removed from the view.
- 2:25:49Were you able to get out of the vehicle on your own?
- 2:25:51No. When you were removed by medical
- 2:25:54personnel, were you able to see the exterior of the vehicle?
- 2:25:58No, because I was very dizzy from hitting my head.
- 2:26:01All right. Did you subsequently see your
- 2:26:03vehicle as depicted in the conditions and proposed Exhibits
- 2:26:071 and 2? I did.
- 2:26:08OK. Do those accurately depict how
- 2:26:11it looked after the accident? It does.
- 2:26:14OK, move for admission of exhibits one and two, Your
- 2:26:16Honor. Any objection, no objection
- 2:26:19right one and two may be received.
- 2:26:21May I ask you, Miss Shockley, where your airbags deployed in
- 2:26:25the previous minister? Yes.
- 2:26:28Can you tell me if there was just one impact by the defendant
- 2:26:32or more than that? It.
- 2:26:34Felt like to do you recall, and I know that you said you were
- 2:26:40busy. Did you strike your head?
- 2:26:42I did. And did you have medical
- 2:26:46treatment after the accident? I did.
- 2:26:48What type of medical treatment did you have?
- 2:26:51I had ACT scan due to the fact that I have a spinal fusion from
- 2:26:56a previous accident in 2018 that left me with missing intestines
- 2:27:01as well. And so I'm a priority CD scan
- 2:27:08for my spinal fusion if I'm involved in a serious accident.
- 2:27:13And I also received pain medication from due to my the
- 2:27:17severity of my sprained shoulder and my the pain for my head.
- 2:27:23OK, let's go over your injuries and you said you had a sprained
- 2:27:28shoulder. Yes.
- 2:27:29Did you have to have? These are all good arguments
- 2:27:34about why this matter should not been reduced from a felony to a
- 2:27:37misdemeanor, but I'm trying to 0 in on the restitution.
- 2:27:45These are compelling arguments. I think a jury would have
- 2:27:48enjoyed hearing all this, but they don't go to our money
- 2:27:55issue. Your honor, they're going to go
- 2:27:57to a request of this victim for three days of lost pay.
- 2:28:01OK, well you could just ask did you lose because of your medical
- 2:28:07treatment? Did you lose 3 days of pay?
- 2:28:09Certainly, Your Honor, you had, you said a head injury and a
- 2:28:14shoulder injury, is that correct?
- 2:28:16Were you able to work immediately thereafter?
- 2:28:19I was not. I had severe whiplash and could
- 2:28:21hardly move the next day after. How many days were you off from
- 2:28:24work? If you do not include my already
- 2:28:272 scheduled days off, I would have been off a total of 5 days.
- 2:28:31Where do you work? I work at Wagner's grocery store
- 2:28:34in Mattawan. I am the night manager.
- 2:28:39What is your rate of pay as the night manager at Wagner's at
- 2:28:42that time, 1470? 3.
- 2:28:47When you say that, is that 1473 per hour?
- 2:28:50Yes, and on those five days would you have worked an 8 hour
- 2:28:56shift each day or do you work overtime as a manager?
- 2:28:59I work an average. Of.
- 2:29:03Two hours of overtime a week, All right, So for those five
- 2:29:07days and the overtime, would you have been approximately 42
- 2:29:10hours? Yes, and that was lost due to
- 2:29:14the injuries from this accident. Now with respect to that, your
- 2:29:191473 is your normal, normal hourly rate.
- 2:29:23Is there an additional compensation for the two hours
- 2:29:26of overtime? Yes, it is time and 1/2.
- 2:29:32Thank you. So that would have covered two
- 2:29:35hours and then the regular rate for 40 of those hours.
- 2:29:38Is that accurate? I'm sorry, is that yes, yes, all
- 2:29:43right, sorry. Because we're having you testify
- 2:29:46sometimes, although we're making a video of it, they they don't
- 2:29:49need to transcribe it later. So we need verbal responses if
- 2:29:52you can recall. I appreciate that, thank you.
- 2:29:56Did you have any items other than what have already been
- 2:29:59stipulated to within the vehicle that were not recovered or paid
- 2:30:03for by insurance? I did.
- 2:30:05What were those things? I had.
- 2:30:09A snow brush that was personal to mine to myself, a couple
- 2:30:17items of clothing that were in the car as well and some lip
- 2:30:23balm and other like pens and miscellaneous items.
- 2:30:27Are you seeking compensation for those items?
- 2:30:30I have not. OK, Now, was there an insurance
- 2:30:35claim made on this vehicle? I was.
- 2:30:38Was it registered in your name or someone else's?
- 2:30:41It is registered in my father's name and his name.
- 2:30:43Please Ralph Shibler and I'll have Mr. Shibler testify.
- 2:30:53But if you'll recall prior to this accident, was there any
- 2:30:58maintenance that was done on the vehicle in close time to the
- 2:31:02accident in July of last year that was necessary to to keep it
- 2:31:08operable and and working well and safely?
- 2:31:11At the beginning of June, we had the air conditioning redone due
- 2:31:15to the fact that it went out over the winter and we had, I
- 2:31:20believe, December. We had the tires replaced.
- 2:31:30Do you recollect about how many miles you would drive in a week
- 2:31:35on those replaced tires? I can't do a large bath in my
- 2:31:48head unfortunately it's I drive an average of 32 miles a day.
- 2:31:53To to. To work and then 32 miles home,
- 2:31:59all right, and you work about five days a week.
- 2:32:02Yes. You would have had some small
- 2:32:07errand miles on it for grocery store things of that nature.
- 2:32:12Do you believe that at the time of the accident, the tires that
- 2:32:15had been replaced in December still had a decent tread on
- 2:32:18them? If you know from the when the
- 2:32:21air conditioning was worked on, they told us that our tires were
- 2:32:24perfect. Did you have to have any
- 2:32:35subsequent medical treatment for your whiplash and sprain
- 2:32:39shoulder or a cost of any pain medications that were not
- 2:32:43covered by any insurance? No, I did not.
- 2:32:55Thank you, Miss Shockley. Nothing.
- 2:33:14So as far as your work, when you get paid, do they take out money
- 2:33:24toward taxes or other deductions?
- 2:33:27They do. So your after tax earnings would
- 2:33:32be approximately 85% of what your earnings are.
- 2:33:36Is that correct? Yes.
- 2:33:57Did you after this accident, did you get in touch with your
- 2:34:04insurance company? My father did.
- 2:34:09Did you receive some type of insurance benefits as a result
- 2:34:15of the accident? We did, yes.
- 2:34:18Did you get what could be called?
- 2:34:23Did you get compensation for lost wages through your
- 2:34:26insurance company? No.
- 2:34:37Do you know why you didn't get those?
- 2:34:40I do not. So was the car totaled?
- 2:34:54It was. And so do you.
- 2:34:58Did your father get, I guess you could say, a payout for the cost
- 2:35:04of the car or the value of the car?
- 2:35:08No, it didn't get equivalent to the value.
- 2:35:11Of what? The car.
- 2:35:11Was. Was the did the insurance
- 2:35:16company get? Did he get any benefits as a
- 2:35:20result of the accident then? We got some.
- 2:35:25Restitution. Was the.
- 2:35:48I have no questions. Miss Shackley, did the vehicle
- 2:35:58insurance cover the floor Jack? I did not.
- 2:36:02The jumper cables, I did not. Did it cover the prescription
- 2:36:05sunglasses? No.
- 2:36:06Did it pay for the tire iron? No, I did not.
- 2:36:09And just to rehash this, did the insurance give any wage loss for
- 2:36:16those five days that you were out of work?
- 2:36:23Do you recall in receiving any of that or is that a better
- 2:36:25question for your father? Actually, I think I did.
- 2:36:32Dan, I did. I received some of do you know
- 2:36:40if it's a reduced amount such about like 83% or so?
- 2:36:45The insurance company did not communicate that to us.
- 2:36:47Whether or not no further questions from him.
- 2:36:58Thank you, Miss Shaw. I'm sorry I had to go through
- 2:37:00all this. You may step down.
- 2:37:07Your honor, I'll call Ralph Schimler to the stand.
- 2:37:20Good afternoon or good morning, Mr. Shibler.
- 2:37:23You swear to affirm any testimony you're about to give
- 2:37:25in this matter will be true to the best of your knowledge and
- 2:37:28belief. All right.
- 2:37:31I want you to have a seat. Spell your last name for us.
- 2:37:34Shibler is spelled SHIB as in boy LER.
- 2:37:38Thank you. Good morning, Mr. Shibler.
- 2:37:43I'm going to take you back to July 5th of 2025, Sir.
- 2:37:48Your daughter was involved in a motor vehicle accident, is that
- 2:37:51correct? At the time she was driving a
- 2:37:552013 Prius Model 4. Is that vehicle registered and
- 2:38:00owned by you? All right.
- 2:38:04Just prior to that accident on July 5th of 2025, had there been
- 2:38:09some reparations or maintenance done to keep the vehicle safe
- 2:38:15and operative? Yes.
- 2:38:17The air conditioning had went out over the winter and so it
- 2:38:21had to be overhauled and recharged.
- 2:38:23All right, we could have that done.
- 2:38:25May I approach, Your Honor? Did you provide my office a
- 2:38:29receipt for that? Yes, I did.
- 2:38:31And would you recognize it if you saw it again?
- 2:38:33Yes. So I'm showing you people's
- 2:38:35proposers exit at 5. Do you recognize that document,
- 2:38:39Sir? Yes, I do.
- 2:38:41And is that the receipt for the air conditioning reparation that
- 2:38:44you were just Speaking of? Yes, it is.
- 2:38:46And that was done at what date? It was done on the exact date of
- 2:38:515/19. All right.
- 2:38:52Of 2025, Sir, Yes. So it would be just about a
- 2:38:56month and a half prior to the vehicle accident.
- 2:38:58I get that. And did the insurance company
- 2:39:02compensate you at all for having had this air conditioning unit
- 2:39:06work done OK? Did you make a claim to
- 2:39:09insurance that included? That.
- 2:39:10I tried but they denied it OK. And has this been changed in any
- 2:39:15other manner from when you provided it other than the
- 2:39:17exhibit sticker being added? Nope.
- 2:39:20I'm going to move for admission of Exhibit 5, Your Honor.
- 2:39:23Any objection. No objection for Exhibit 5 May
- 2:39:27be received. Thank you, Your Honor.
- 2:39:29I'm going to show you also your your daughter and the Shockley
- 2:39:32have testified about some new tires on the vehicle about
- 2:39:35December 24, about six months or so prior to the accident fare.
- 2:39:42Did you pay for those tires, Sir?
- 2:39:44And did you have a receipt that you provided in our office as
- 2:39:47well? Would you recognize that if you
- 2:39:49saw it? I'm going to show.
- 2:39:50You people's proposing exhibit. 4 Do you recognize that, Sir?
- 2:39:54Yes. Does that contain the receipt
- 2:39:57for the tires that you put on the Prius prior to the accident?
- 2:40:00Yes it does. And is it accurate but for the
- 2:40:05admission of the exhibit sticker?
- 2:40:07Yes. And what date were those
- 2:40:10purchased? Those were purchased on my
- 2:40:12birthday. 12 five. Well, happy late birthday, our
- 2:40:16Irving birthday for this year. All right.
- 2:40:19And has it been modified at all? No.
- 2:40:21All right, move for admission of Exhibit 4, Your Honor.
- 2:40:25No objection part number 4 is also admitted.
- 2:40:30So, Mr. Schiller, when they went in for the air conditioning to
- 2:40:33be refurbished or repaired in May of 2025, did they take an
- 2:40:39overall look at the vehicle to ensure everything else was
- 2:40:43operative and safe? Did that include an inspection
- 2:40:47of the tires? Were the tires in still a
- 2:40:52relatively pristine or unused condition?
- 2:40:55Let me ask you, when you purchased them in December of
- 2:40:58the prior year, were they new? OK.
- 2:41:01So there'd only been several 1000 miles over those six months
- 2:41:04placed on that tire. Did the insurance company
- 2:41:09compensate you for the new tires that were lost during the
- 2:41:12accident? Let me ask you, Sir, do you know
- 2:41:16what the approximate blue book value of the Prius was around
- 2:41:21the date of your daughter's accident?
- 2:41:23It's depending on conditions between 14 and 15/9.
- 2:41:35When all was said and done with the insurance, well, who's your
- 2:41:38insurance company? At that time it was Pioneer
- 2:41:40Mutual. What type of insurance did you
- 2:41:45have on the vehicle? Full coverage, so comprehensive
- 2:41:48as well as PLPD. No, that's not full coverage.
- 2:41:55Comprehensive and PLPD is different than full coverage.
- 2:42:01So you had full coverage on the vehicle.
- 2:42:04Good for you. Thank you, Judge.
- 2:42:06Now, when you submitted the claim for your daughter
- 2:42:10Michaela's accident, did Pioneer pay you out on the vehicle?
- 2:42:16Yes. Did they choose to total the
- 2:42:19vehicle? Yes.
- 2:42:20What was the total payment that you received?
- 2:42:23I. Believe it was 3900.
- 2:42:28When was that paid to you? It was paid towards the end of
- 2:42:32July. Now there were some questions
- 2:42:39that we asked Miss Shockley regarding wage loss
- 2:42:42reimbursement. Do you recollect any claim being
- 2:42:46made for her wage loss to the insurance company Pioneer?
- 2:42:51I don't recall it, but I think she's right.
- 2:42:53I think they did give her like a $300 check or something like
- 2:42:56that. OK.
- 2:42:59I think they covered like 2 days.
- 2:43:07Three days. So of the five days that were
- 2:43:13lost, you believe insurance only covered three of them?
- 2:43:22And we'd already asked some of this to Miss Shockley.
- 2:43:25But the items that are being agreed to by the defendant, the
- 2:43:29tire iron, the Jack, things of that nature, didn't insurance
- 2:43:32give you any compensation towards those items?
- 2:43:36They didn't cover any of the contents of the car.
- 2:43:38All right, now obviously $3900 is a lot less than the Blue book
- 2:43:45values you stated of 14,000 to 15900, correct?
- 2:43:52Did you have to get another vehicle for Miss Shackley to be
- 2:43:55able to drive to and from work and in her daily living?
- 2:43:59Do you recollect what vehicle you purchase to replace the
- 2:44:03Prius that was damaged by the defendant in total?
- 2:44:06A 2013 Prius Model 2. So the same year it was still a
- 2:44:13Prius, but it was a model 2, correct?
- 2:44:16So you'd previously had a model 4.
- 2:44:19How is the model two different? No backup camera, no navigation
- 2:44:25system. It's just above the base model.
- 2:44:29OK. Does it have any hands free
- 2:44:33operation? It does have the hands free, but
- 2:44:36it's a different type of hands free than what's in the model
- 2:44:40for a different brand. So.
- 2:44:44If I'm understanding your description correctly, replace
- 2:44:47the vehicle with something that was a lesser model than what she
- 2:44:53had been driving on the date of the accident.
- 2:44:55With more miles on it, OK. Do you recollect what the miles
- 2:45:00were on the vehicle on the date of the accident?
- 2:45:02To be honest, no we don't. I had an oil change, I believe
- 2:45:07it was like 198,000. OK.
- 2:45:11But I think it was just over 200 after, you know, because.
- 2:45:13That's when the. Oil change.
- 2:45:15OK. And then how much were on the
- 2:45:21the new Prius Model 2 that you had to replace that vehicle
- 2:45:24with? There's about over 200,000.
- 2:45:27It's 201,000 I believe. That's what it was.
- 2:45:31OK. Now, did you have the money
- 2:45:38available to to purchase this new vehicle?
- 2:45:40How much did it cost? It costs.
- 2:45:44It was 6500 is what I had to pay for it, plus taxes and title and
- 2:45:50all that. And you'd only received 3900
- 2:45:54from the insurance company, Sir, is that correct?
- 2:45:57Correct. How did you make up for the
- 2:45:58difference? I cashed in almost three years
- 2:46:01worth of vacation time. Describe to me how that first of
- 2:46:08all, for whom are you employed? I'm I'm employed by a company
- 2:46:12called Actolent. I'm a contractor and they are
- 2:46:15contracted by Lexmark Corporation.
- 2:46:19And when you have PTO time, how much do you receive?
- 2:46:24Annually. 40 hours because I'm a contractor, I only get 40 hours.
- 2:46:31Does that time roll over into the subsequent year if it's
- 2:46:35unutilized? Yes, they will allow me to roll
- 2:46:38it over for three years. OK.
- 2:46:43No. Did your daughter, Miss
- 2:46:46Shockley, have the money to cover the difference between
- 2:46:50what insurance paid and the price of the new vehicle?
- 2:46:55Did you have any other manner by which you could accumulate money
- 2:47:01to to pay for the new Prius? No, I can't get a loan because
- 2:47:04I'm in a bankruptcy. Oh, I understand.
- 2:47:07OK. If I showed you a pay stub that
- 2:47:10indicated the hours that you had to cash in, would you recognize
- 2:47:13it? I'm going to approach, if I may,
- 2:47:16with people's proposal, Exhibit 3.
- 2:47:20And Mr. Shibler, is that the pay stub that you provided to my
- 2:47:24office with those PTO hours cashed in?
- 2:47:27Yes, it is. What was the cost of those PTO
- 2:47:32hours that you had to utilize due to this accident?
- 2:47:36The total came into $2710.72. Would you have lost that PTO
- 2:47:45money if you hadn't had to replace the vehicle for your
- 2:47:48daughter? No.
- 2:47:53Did you have to take any other time off from work after she was
- 2:47:57injured to assist her with daily living?
- 2:48:00I did, but I didn't. I can work remote occasionally
- 2:48:03so my boss just let me work remote while I was taking care
- 2:48:06of her. How many days were you taking
- 2:48:09care of Michaela? It was 2.
- 2:48:17With respect to the vehicle insurance for medical coverage,
- 2:48:22did she have to go to the hospital?
- 2:48:24Yeah, she went to the hospital, but the our deductible had been
- 2:48:28met for the year, so the insurance covered the 80% and
- 2:48:31then the car insurance covered the rest.
- 2:48:38So the family was not out any money for her medical care and
- 2:48:43coverage. I mean it would would have cost
- 2:48:48for like the medications and that but but those are minimal.
- 2:48:53You did not keep a track of the prescriptions or.
- 2:48:56Things. Is it fair to say that the items
- 2:49:04that you've turned in for restitution are the major ones
- 2:49:07and not the entirety of the loss that was suffered?
- 2:49:12You could have claimed for prescriptions there, yes.
- 2:49:16You could have claimed for some of the other items lost in the
- 2:49:21car that your daughter mentioned her, her clothing, her lip balm,
- 2:49:25a snow brush, things of that nature.
- 2:49:28And you, you both chose not to do that.
- 2:49:34So. The Jack that was in there is
- 2:49:36when I get a new car the first thing I do is get rid of the
- 2:49:39scissors Jack and put a four way tire iron and a floor Jack in
- 2:49:45the back car because I have daughters and I don't want them
- 2:49:48out straight of trying to use a. Scissors, Jack.
- 2:49:52All right. So in your opinion, the the
- 2:49:55floor Jack and things that you provided and that were in this
- 2:49:58vehicle when were lost are more able to be utilized by your
- 2:50:04daughters if they were to have a flat tire on the road?
- 2:50:06Yep. OK.
- 2:50:08So it's safer for them. Now with respect to this, then
- 2:50:13you're asking for the lost wages of $2710.72 for the PTO that you
- 2:50:22would not have had to cash in, but for needing that money in
- 2:50:26order to help your daughter replace the vehicle that was
- 2:50:29damaged and it actually was your vehicle fair registered and
- 2:50:34owned by yourself. We share.
- 2:50:45Did the insurance company allow you to remove the tires off of
- 2:50:52the total vehicle? No.
- 2:50:53And they were shredded pretty much.
- 2:50:56I mean they were, there was gashes and stuff in them, chunks
- 2:50:58of reference. OK.
- 2:50:59You were able to go and see the vehicle after the accident.
- 2:51:02Yes, I was. Did you go over that at all with
- 2:51:04the insurance adjuster? Yeah, we did.
- 2:51:07We went over everything. So you saw the condition of the
- 2:51:11tires as you've just described. Would you still have that PTO in
- 2:51:19your bank, Mr. Schindler, if this accident hadn't occurred
- 2:51:22and you needed to replace your vehicle?
- 2:51:24Yes, because we were safe Internet so that we could go on
- 2:51:27a vacation this summer. And other than my adding the
- 2:51:32exhibits on the back of that in case of, is it accurate as to
- 2:51:37the loss? Yes, it's a direct download from
- 2:51:39my company website. Thank you move for admission of
- 2:51:43Exhibit 3. No Exhibit 3 is admitted.
- 2:51:50Further. Questions.
- 2:51:54Mr. Gibson, do you have any questions?
- 2:52:04So, Sir, you yourself did not suffer any type of physical
- 2:52:10injury from the car accident that your daughter was involved
- 2:52:14with, correct? No, not.
- 2:52:16Not any physical injuries, no. OK.
- 2:52:18Did you suffer any direct financial or emotional harm as a
- 2:52:25result of the crime? Yeah, actually emotional.
- 2:52:28I mean, my daughter texted me from inside the car because they
- 2:52:32hadn't got her out yet, that she'd just been rented.
- 2:52:35Because the talk the text turned rear-ended into rended.
- 2:52:39Did you suffer any direct financial loss as a result?
- 2:52:42Of the crime. My vehicle.
- 2:52:46Now the insurance company, you said they paid you 3900 dollars?
- 2:52:52Yes. Was there a lien against the
- 2:52:54vehicle? No, there was not.
- 2:52:56So how did you only get 3900 dollars?
- 2:52:58Because they couldn't they because they couldn't read the
- 2:53:05odometer, they that's what they told me they would give me.
- 2:53:10Did you get in touch with an attorney or question that?
- 2:53:14No. To be honest, I didn't have the
- 2:53:21time. I had to get another vehicle.
- 2:53:23When did you purchase the vehicle that was that was
- 2:53:26totaled? Two years prior, I think.
- 2:53:35So, so I guess I'm just, I want to clarify.
- 2:53:37So you you believe the vehicle was worth between 14 to 15 nine
- 2:53:42you and you issued, you had full coverage.
- 2:53:46You you made a claim to your insurance company and they said
- 2:53:49they would only pay you $3900 and you didn't question that,
- 2:53:53you just accepted. No, I, I did question it.
- 2:53:55It's just that it it would have taken way longer to keep
- 2:53:58questioning than to do what we had to do to get a vehicle
- 2:54:01because we had to be able to get back and forth to work.
- 2:54:14Was the air conditioner working in the car at the time of the
- 2:54:18accident? Yes, it was.
- 2:54:20Was it working properly? Yes, it was.
- 2:54:24So the car had been driven from December until July until the
- 2:54:32accident, is that correct? Yes.
- 2:54:34Correct. So the tires that were purchased
- 2:54:37in December would have been approximately 7 months old at
- 2:54:41the time of the accident. Between 6:00 and 7:00, yeah.
- 2:54:44And was the. Car was driven regularly for the
- 2:54:47period that the new tires were on it.
- 2:54:50Yes. Not a lot, but yes.
- 2:54:54Well, when you how often was it driven?
- 2:54:58Twice a day usually. OK.
- 2:55:02Or unless we had, you know, had to go shopping or whatever, on
- 2:55:06average, on average it would have been about, I would say 60
- 2:55:10miles a day or so, 65 miles, something like that.
- 2:55:15OK. I have no further questions.
- 2:55:20Thank you. Anything further Miss Canfield?
- 2:55:29Thank you. Mr. Shibler, you may step down
- 2:55:34any further evidence from the State.
- 2:55:36No further poster. Mr. Gibson, do you wish to
- 2:55:39produce any testimony or evidence?
- 2:55:45I don't believe I just a just a closing argument, that's all.
- 2:55:52All right, fair enough. We'll let the state go first,
- 2:55:59and then you can make yours Miss Campfield.
- 2:56:01Thank you, Your Honor. As I've stated, we already have
- 2:56:05the $402.27 for the items in the car stipulated to.
- 2:56:11Now. With respect to the lost wages
- 2:56:14of the victim, she indicated that she lost 5 days of work.
- 2:56:20Approximately 3 of those were covered, so we will be asking
- 2:56:25for. She had two days off so she
- 2:56:28missed 3 days of work and what for her would be a Saturday and
- 2:56:31a Sunday. For your honor, she forfeited
- 2:56:34those days off by having been injured.
- 2:56:37And she was compensated by the insurance company for the days
- 2:56:41lost. So if you were injured on a
- 2:56:43Wednesday, you missed Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, yet Saturday
- 2:56:46and Sunday off you went back to work on Monday.
- 2:56:50That appears what the insurance company compensated them for.
- 2:56:57Well, with I still think that she didn't needs two days
- 2:57:00because five of those were lost and they only covered and
- 2:57:04compensated for three. She is an hourly employee.
- 2:57:09We're not even asking for the overtime if we're not going to
- 2:57:12consider the additional 2 hours that she worked of overtime per
- 2:57:16week and that is direct income loss.
- 2:57:20As a result of this accident. The court saw the vehicle.
- 2:57:24It's very fortunate for Miss Shockley and her family that she
- 2:57:28was seat belted and actually for the defendant because this could
- 2:57:32have been much worse and she could have.
- 2:57:33Been as you may know, I have a sore point for under prosecuted
- 2:57:41vehicular accidents with an injury that all goes to whether
- 2:57:46this should have been a felony rather than a misdemeanor.
- 2:57:49And so it is terrible, but we got a misdemeanor, we're trying
- 2:57:56to figure out the restitution. So the fact that it was bad is
- 2:58:00bad, but it doesn't isn't relevant to the restitution.
- 2:58:08Well, Your Honor, I, I think it is.
- 2:58:10And the fact that she indicated she had a sprained shoulder and
- 2:58:13subsequent head injuries. I agree 100% that's why they
- 2:58:17should have been an OUYL with a serious injury.
- 2:58:19But it is, I don't mean to be disrespectful to the court.
- 2:58:26I'm just stating that these are important for the court to hear
- 2:58:29with respect to restitution because additionally, her
- 2:58:33father, although he was allowed to work remotely, also had to
- 2:58:36provide daily living and assistance for her for those two
- 2:58:40days while she was in the initial injury phase.
- 2:58:44Now, with respect to that, they also had psychological injury.
- 2:58:48They're not claiming any compensation for that.
- 2:58:51Whether I can't imagine the call being received or a text from a
- 2:58:55daughter who'd been in an accident and not knowing her
- 2:58:58condition with respect to the property damage and loss, it's
- 2:59:06clear here that the Mr. I'm sorry.
- 2:59:11Shibler. Thank you, I was just blanking
- 2:59:13on that last name. Mr. Shibler has testified that
- 2:59:16he had to replace the Model 2 with again the same year Prius
- 2:59:21but a lesser or the Model 4 with the Model 2.
- 2:59:25And he wasn't even requesting the blue book value of the
- 2:59:28vehicle they lost, only the difference from what the
- 2:59:32insurance paid to the vehicle that he had to replace.
- 2:59:35So if purchased at $6500 only compensated for 3900 dollars,
- 2:59:42$2600 would be the difference. But then he had to do 27/10/72
- 2:59:50of his PTO because you also had to do the transfer plates, the
- 2:59:55insurance, the licensing and the title for that vehicle that
- 3:00:00replaced the one that was lost to the defendant's criminal
- 3:00:03conduct. So I would respectfully request
- 3:00:05that that entire 271072 be included as well.
- 3:00:11Now, when you have here an A somewhat unusual argument with
- 3:00:16respect to the air conditioning and the tires, but at this point
- 3:00:21the Mr. Shibler has testified that the air conditioning had
- 3:00:24been broken over the winter. It was replaced approximately 6
- 3:00:28weeks prior to this accident and then the vehicle was totaled.
- 3:00:34The insurance company was provided that cost for their the
- 3:00:38tires as well As for the air conditioning.
- 3:00:41He indicated they did not compensate him for a same and
- 3:00:45being unable to utilize that vehicle that was just repaired.
- 3:00:49It's my belief that the air conditioning caution also be
- 3:00:52paid by the defendant. Similarly with the tires, I try
- 3:00:56to do some quick calculations with respect to the mileage, but
- 3:01:00it appears that the mileage for those six to seven months of
- 3:01:04utilization, according to Miss Shockley and Mr. Shibler, would
- 3:01:08have been somewhere between 5 to 11,000 miles on those brand new
- 3:01:13tires. At the time the air conditioning
- 3:01:16was replaced, those tires were checked.
- 3:01:18They were still in new pristine condition with save, you know, a
- 3:01:23little wear and tear. So I believe that the tire
- 3:01:27amount should be compensated as well because as Mr. Shibler
- 3:01:31testified, when he saw the vehicle subsequent to the
- 3:01:34accident and also met there with the insurance adjuster, the
- 3:01:37tires were damaged and shredded. They were not able to be saved.
- 3:01:42Those also were not compensated by the insurance company.
- 3:01:47And I certainly understand the questions of the defense as to
- 3:01:50well. Why didn't you challenge that
- 3:01:52with the insurance company when and she gets an attorney to ask
- 3:01:56for a higher replacement value for the vehicle considering the
- 3:02:00blue book values at the time? He simply said I was caring for
- 3:02:04my daughter, I needed to work. He's also testified he's in a
- 3:02:07bankruptcy proceeding. He's got a lot going on where he
- 3:02:11just didn't have the time to argue and they needed a vehicle
- 3:02:14to suite, so they replaced it with a much lesser model and a
- 3:02:19time that they needed to so they can continue with their work and
- 3:02:23daily living. I don't think he should be
- 3:02:25faulted for the fact that the insurance company chose not to
- 3:02:29pay the blue book value. We wouldn't have been in this
- 3:02:33situation but for the criminal conduct of the defendant.
- 3:02:36So I'm respectfully requesting the items in the car, the two
- 3:02:41days of lost wages for the victim, the PTO loss that was
- 3:02:46cashed in to cover the balance of the vehicle not covered by
- 3:02:49insurance, as well as the air conditioning and the tires.
- 3:02:56And I do believe that those fall all under the income laws and
- 3:02:59property damage and destruction that are included under the
- 3:03:04statute under 780.766, as well as the case law previously
- 3:03:11stated on the record. Well, the McAvoy case didn't
- 3:03:14seem to match up with at least the one I got.
- 3:03:17It had to do with whether parents were responsible for
- 3:03:19restitution for juveniles, so I didn't.
- 3:03:24Well, there is. Also for income loss, your
- 3:03:27Honor, people versus turn 317, mishap 475 as well as people
- 3:03:36versus Corbin 312, mishap 352 at 371.
- 3:03:43And all of this, I should note, I've taken out of the bench book
- 3:03:47for restitution. All right.
- 3:03:53Thank you. Thank you, Your honor.
- 3:04:04For any. For any lost wages type
- 3:04:15restitution, the statute talks about after tax compensation so
- 3:04:24or after tax. So that should be factored in.
- 3:04:27So we would ask that roughly 80 that any amounts be made 85% due
- 3:04:32to the after tax amount. As far as the we have to look at
- 3:04:39the the statutory law. So I understand that the, the
- 3:04:45victim, the father of the, well, I guess you'd say the father,
- 3:04:51he, he paid money, he took time off to pay for a vehicle.
- 3:04:58But that I guess when I look at the statutory structure, I guess
- 3:05:01I all I see is replacement value as far as you know, returning
- 3:05:08someone to where they were. If you can't repair the vehicle,
- 3:05:12then the statute talks about replacement value.
- 3:05:16So I guess where I'm a little bit confused would be what would
- 3:05:20be the difference in the replacement value versus what
- 3:05:24did the insurance contract pay the victims in this case?
- 3:05:29I guess most people I guess would believe that the insurance
- 3:05:33company would pay, I guess the value of the car or something
- 3:05:38that would be close to the replacement value.
- 3:05:42So I guess I'm not clear about that, but it in a sense this
- 3:05:47they're not asking for replacement value.
- 3:05:49They're asking for paid time off of the of one of the victims.
- 3:05:54And I can't see anything in the statute that would it's kind of
- 3:05:58a convoluted way to get at to get at it.
- 3:06:03Let's say that he cashed in his retirement account and used some
- 3:06:09money for that, or he use the CD that he had had and he had to
- 3:06:14cash it in early and lost interest on it.
- 3:06:17It doesn't some extent matter what the source of the funds
- 3:06:21were that were used is how much was the cost.
- 3:06:25Let's say he bought it from the bank at 7 1/2% interest, he
- 3:06:31would incur an interest cost. So I'm trying to figure out the
- 3:06:39value rather than where the money came from.
- 3:06:43But, and maybe it's wrong for me to focus on where the money
- 3:06:46comes from because I guess in a sense he's saying that this was
- 3:06:50part of the replacement value. But I guess that's where I'm
- 3:06:53confused is that it seems like that the insurance company
- 3:06:58should have paid either the replacement value or something
- 3:07:01very close to the replacement value.
- 3:07:04So I guess I don't, I, I guess I'm still not quite clear about
- 3:07:09that. And I do believe that, you know,
- 3:07:12any restitution should be offset by any type of insurance
- 3:07:17benefits that were received by the victims.
- 3:07:21But as far as the replacement value, I guess the defendant
- 3:07:28would object to the way that the prosecution has asked for it in
- 3:07:32this case. So I guess we would object to
- 3:07:36the 2710 and 72 dollars and we would object to the.
- 3:07:44Now as far as the 55959 for tires and 4/24/84, again, we
- 3:07:49would object to those because I don't believe the statute would
- 3:07:53call for those. But also, even if we took the
- 3:07:57state's argument, there was approximately 7 months of tire
- 3:08:02use and a few months of air conditioner use.
- 3:08:06So it's not as if those were were just brand new repairs that
- 3:08:10had just been done like the day before.
- 3:08:12So I would ask the court to take that all into consideration.
- 3:08:16Thank you. 3 For bottling honor. Statutorily, the replacement
- 3:08:22valley can also be considered the fair market valley of the
- 3:08:25property at the date of the damage, loss or destruction.
- 3:08:29Arguably, here it is the cost of the vehicle as testified to by
- 3:08:34Mr. Shibler, which was $6500 and again, his PTO covered the
- 3:08:40portion that the insurance didn't cover.
- 3:08:42We're not requesting the portion that the insurance covered, only
- 3:08:46what he had to cover. Additionally, with respect to
- 3:08:49the after tax compensation, I've calculated if two days are
- 3:08:53granted by the court, 85% of that would be $200.32.
- 3:08:59Yeah, that's the figure I got. But I I still believe that the
- 3:09:04air conditioning and tires were in the condition relatively new.
- 3:09:09The air conditioning that had been used probably less than six
- 3:09:12weeks and would have presumably that continued to be used for
- 3:09:17the duration of the ownership of the vehicle had it not been
- 3:09:20totaled by the defendant's conduct.
- 3:09:22So again, we would just ask the court order as requested, the
- 3:09:26things mentioned in prior argument.
- 3:09:29Thank you. All right, as I indicated, this
- 3:09:34is a topic we discussed with new judges at New Judge School.
- 3:09:40I spent a day with another judge from Farmington Hills teaching
- 3:09:44sentencing. These are tough questions
- 3:09:47without clear answers, often the quintessential case where the
- 3:09:54insurance company pays X and the car owner believes the car is
- 3:09:58worth much more than that. So the insurance company
- 3:10:04reimbursed them for this Prius with 200,000 miles on it for
- 3:10:08$3900 and I'm sure it was probably worth more than that.
- 3:10:16But we don't have any real testimony about the fair market
- 3:10:19value of the vehicle. We have hearsay that Mister
- 3:10:23Shibler looked it up on Kelley Blue Book, which isn't absolute
- 3:10:28gospel, and it was worth substantially more than that,
- 3:10:31which I don't have any trouble believing.
- 3:10:34What we do know is they had to buy another vehicle similar with
- 3:10:40less features. For $6500 that didn't include
- 3:10:56taxes, closing costs, and it was a lesser included vehicle.
- 3:11:00So I'm going to get at this by and presumably the insurance
- 3:11:06company has some expertise in valuing vehicles and I think
- 3:11:13it's common knowledge they payless than what the owner
- 3:11:16thinks the vehicle is worth. This is a no fault state.
- 3:11:20If this was a civil case, everybody is presumed to be
- 3:11:24covered by their own insurance, the Schibler's and this shock.
- 3:11:28They could have sued for the mini tort difference, but this
- 3:11:33isn't a civil lawsuit, it's a criminal case.
- 3:11:36So I'm going to allow the stuff that was in the car that the
- 3:11:41defendant stipulated to $402.27, even though it probably was a
- 3:11:47weekend. She wasn't reimbursed for those
- 3:11:49two days, although $200 for lost wages.
- 3:11:54And what I'm going to do is I'm going to value the car, 2013
- 3:11:59Prius. We do have some logic to replace
- 3:12:03it with. It was a lesser model and
- 3:12:05doesn't include the closing costs and the other fees that go
- 3:12:21with it. So I'm going to allow $7500 for
- 3:12:24the new Prius -3900 dollars that they were reimbursed.
- 3:12:37Is $3600 the business about the air conditioning and the tires
- 3:12:45is a red herring? The car is worth what it's
- 3:12:48worth, so how do you value that? I painted the car in September,
- 3:12:53so I should include the cost of a new paint job last June.
- 3:12:59I put new leather seats in it. I so for chasing tires with
- 3:13:0610,000 miles on it and a functional air conditioning
- 3:13:11unit, you would presume that it would be.
- 3:13:13That's what the car was valued with functioning air
- 3:13:16conditioning and tires. The insurance company paid
- 3:13:20$3900. So I don't have a lot of
- 3:13:25sympathy for you. This was bad.
- 3:13:32And then Miss Canfield spoke to that.
- 3:13:35You're lucky that you weren't killed.
- 3:13:37She wasn't killed. The guy in the other car that
- 3:13:41took off or they weren't killed. It was bad.
- 3:13:47And so it is what it is. So I'm allowing trying to know.
- 3:14:02Total that up $3600 for the value of the vehicle that they
- 3:14:14had to pay to replace it with a comparable vehicle, $200 for
- 3:14:19lost wages plus $403 we'll call it is 4203 dollars, which
- 3:14:36ironically is close to what they were asking for.
- 3:14:40So as a condition of your probation, I'm ordering that you
- 3:14:44pay $4203.00 restitution to them for what it cost over and above
- 3:14:50what the insurance to replace the car for two days of lost
- 3:14:54wages and the items that were in the vehicle.
- 3:14:58So Miss Wall, and you can amend the probation to include
- 3:15:03$4203.00 worth of restitution. Thank you.
- 3:15:15And of course, now the big thing will be collecting that.
- 3:15:17Even if it is a condition of probation, that is not always
- 3:15:21the easiest thing to do. Honestly, it's never an easy
- 3:15:23thing to do. All right, my friends, I have to
- 3:15:25run. We will see you all tomorrow.
- 3:15:279:00 AM Eastern, 6:00 AM Pacific.
- 3:15:29Go have yourselves a great Wednesday.
- 3:15:31Take care. God bless.